Pearl - October 30, 2025


CLICKBAIT CANDANCE Reveals Charlie Kirk's Private DMs After He Was Killed

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Charlie Kirk Martin Luther King Jr. Candace Owens Pastor McCoy Brett Cooper Josh Hammer Mikey McCoy Mynamepearl Kanye David
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9 minutes

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1,863

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173

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Toxicity

7

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Candace Cameron Bure is back, and she's got a lot to say about it. She's been accused of lying to the FBI about her involvement in the 9/11 terrorist attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, and now she's accused of covering up for her ex-boyfriend, Pastor Charlie Kirk.

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00:00:00.000 Okay, why would she put he was betrayed?
00:00:02.260 And then she adds in spiritual, like, do you know what I mean?
00:00:04.480 That's almost like click baiting his death in a way.
00:00:08.160 Now it's time to share private messages.
00:00:09.840 You know what's so funny to me is, I don't know,
00:00:11.600 I feel like they are now steeped in psychology for toddlers.
00:00:15.820 It's so obvious what's coming down the pipeline.
00:00:17.860 The things, oh, it's not appropriate to share private messages unless we do it.
00:00:21.120 Unless we do it.
00:00:21.900 I just don't, I don't really get the demeanor of a grown woman. 0.93
00:00:26.800 Now, I don't know, maybe it's a little hypocritical,
00:00:30.560 because I know at times maybe people would say the same thing about me.
00:00:35.560 But there's just a lack of, like, maturity I get from her.
00:00:39.920 She's, you know, it's not really a good argument to say,
00:00:45.100 well, other people do it.
00:00:46.760 Other people show private text messages, so I should be able to, too, you know?
00:00:53.480 Plus, we're up on stage talking about private conversations
00:00:55.440 and making stuff up that definitely didn't happen.
00:00:57.220 I mean, I think it was actually Pastor McCoy's speech.
00:00:59.000 Charlie wanted me to lead the next movement.
00:01:01.780 Charlie told me, I'm America's pastor, he said.
00:01:04.840 Yeah, I'm sure he did.
00:01:05.700 I'm sure he did.
00:01:06.260 I'm sure he called you America's pastor.
00:01:08.660 And so, yeah.
00:01:09.460 I can agree with her.
00:01:10.320 I think a lot of that stuff has been, like,
00:01:12.240 really out of poor taste and kind of gross.
00:01:16.540 I will be.
00:01:18.340 Candace just, I don't know.
00:01:19.580 I can just tell she's never really been around a guy with a lot of masculinity
00:01:23.960 and frame because men really don't like when private things become public.
00:01:31.240 And I see her do it.
00:01:32.180 I see Brett Cooper do it.
00:01:33.080 I see a lot of the internet personalities make their private life public.
00:01:37.040 Doing whatever I want to do until the truth is told about what happened on 910.
00:01:41.000 We should start with Josh Hammer, by the way,
00:01:42.140 because he really has now become the king of defying no stereotypes.
00:01:45.820 Okay, so now she's, like, subtly threatening them.
00:01:48.920 Where we last left off, obviously.
00:01:51.900 It's a trailer that we put together.
00:01:54.020 I sure hope you guys like it.
00:01:55.640 Take a listen.
00:01:56.700 How Charlie Kirk was actually feeling about the pressure he was receiving
00:02:00.960 from pro-Israel Zionist donors to Turning Point USA.
00:02:04.600 Charlie definitely was not someone. 1.00
00:02:07.020 I think Candace is kind of just, like, a useful idiot, if I'm being honest. 1.00
00:02:11.780 One who liked to be bullied by donors, as we saw in those text messages. 0.99
00:02:14.960 Their Jewish donors to TPUSA played into the worst stereotypes of Jewish people.
00:02:20.740 Charlie writes, Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes.
00:02:23.440 I cannot and will not be bullied like this.
00:02:26.480 A few moments later.
00:02:28.060 You know, I'm talking to lawyers.
00:02:29.180 I think I'm a lawyer with my background.
00:02:30.820 I am a federal appeals judge.
00:02:32.100 I know a thing or two about the United States constitutional law.
00:02:34.760 I think that we have a potentially serious...
00:02:37.400 Well, yeah, because you were accusing him of, like, murder subtly
00:02:41.020 and then pretending you weren't.
00:02:42.700 Um, okay.
00:02:45.020 Okay?
00:02:45.920 You have to believe in your gut.
00:02:48.000 I keep talking about you guys over and over.
00:02:49.380 Oh, God, no.
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00:04:36.880 Over again, your gut matters more, right?
00:04:38.900 Your subconscious picks up on things before your conscience does.
00:04:41.680 Which brings me to dreams, by the way, because before I went on break, many people were triggered
00:04:45.720 because I discussed on a previous show a dream that I had, a very vivid dream,
00:04:50.620 whereupon Charlie told me that he had been betrayed.
00:04:54.460 And so he's been betrayed.
00:04:55.140 That's it.
00:04:55.660 That's a lot I could say here.
00:04:57.660 If I had known that me discussing my dreams was going to trigger so many people,
00:05:01.340 I would have started every other show like Martin Luther King Jr.
00:05:03.780 I had a dream.
00:05:04.500 I had a dream.
00:05:05.020 I had a dream.
00:05:05.620 And like I said, this one was clear.
00:05:07.060 Charlie told me that he was betrayed.
00:05:08.680 He actually said more than that, actually.
00:05:11.220 But we're fishing, right?
00:05:13.200 So let's be patient.
00:05:14.300 What I want you guys to know about Charlie is he also used to dream very vividly.
00:05:19.580 Because we traveled together so much, he would wake up, we would text, and he would tell me
00:05:23.600 about those vivid dreams.
00:05:24.700 And we talked about a lot of things.
00:05:25.840 As you do when you get to know somebody, we talked about the spiritual realm.
00:05:28.220 We talked about religion, our faith.
00:05:29.760 Most importantly, when our lives occur, you see something beautiful and it makes you feel at
00:05:33.120 peace.
00:05:33.360 And then I felt the need to start going through messages and conversations between me and
00:05:37.200 Charlie.
00:05:37.520 And sure enough, I stumbled upon many messages of him telling me how he would die.
00:05:41.760 I'm going to show you some of those messages now, a particular set of messages that were
00:05:45.140 written on April 6th, 2018, just a couple of weeks before Kanye tweeted, I love the way
00:05:50.920 Candace Owens thinks, which is relevant because a lot of things changed after that tweet.
00:05:54.300 And it's relevant because Charlie sensed that something big was about to happen.
00:05:58.000 And I think that is what the something big was.
00:06:01.280 I also want to say, obviously, I am not making up these messages.
00:06:04.460 Okay.
00:06:04.900 Turning point.
00:06:05.700 Actually, Mikey McCoy has access to all of Charlie Kirk's messages.
00:06:07.720 They can tell you that these ones are real.
00:06:09.800 Here's what he wrote.
00:06:10.880 We're again talking about Kanye.
00:06:12.820 Charlie wrote to me, you're going to be the Iron Lady of America. 1.00
00:06:14.740 He had such a political vision for me.
00:06:15.780 I never wanted that sort of a thing.
00:06:17.000 I see it so freaking clearly.
00:06:18.220 I might be Moses, though.
00:06:19.020 I might not.
00:06:20.080 You never wanted that sort of thing, really?
00:06:23.580 Sorry.
00:06:24.040 I just see this whole thing through.
00:06:26.160 So, L-N-A-O, if that is the case, be my David. 1.00
00:06:29.480 I said, dude, you haven't even realized your power yet.
00:06:31.240 You're so young is what I was thinking.
00:06:33.300 He said, if I tell you the true prophecy that I know in my gut, it's really sad, but I hope it's wrong.
00:06:39.660 Went on to say, anyway, I am not sure if I will live to see the end of this revolution.
00:06:44.760 I believe you were the piece that God meant me to meet that will finish the fight.
00:06:49.200 Since the beginning of TPUSA, I knew in my gut that I might get wiped out at any time.
00:06:53.760 I cannot explain it, but I dream about it all the time, like all the time.
00:06:57.520 Anyway, that's a depressing combo for another time, L-N-A-O. 1.00
00:07:00.680 I said, that's weird.
00:07:01.360 More of a fear manifestation than an actualization.
00:07:03.820 He said, I'm not really afraid of it, but I'm just telling you what I know to be true.
00:07:07.480 And he told me that.
00:07:08.260 He told me that.
00:07:08.900 I don't know why.
00:07:09.380 Charlie knew he was going to die young.
00:07:10.660 And I don't know.
00:07:12.060 I just felt like I needed to share that because it is in part why the moment that Charlie got shot,
00:07:18.220 I just knew he was betrayed spiritually in the same way that Charlie knew.
00:07:22.440 Okay, why would she put he was betrayed?
00:07:25.860 And then she adds in spiritual, like, do you know what I mean?
00:07:30.060 That's almost like click baiting his death in a way.
00:07:34.960 Because I saw the tweet.
00:07:36.840 It said Charlie was betrayed.
00:07:39.680 And it made it seem kind of like something it's really not.
00:07:43.840 Okay, so he thought he would die young.
00:07:45.660 When he died young, I knew that this was a part of something bigger.
00:07:48.540 And so I wanted to say to you guys, to the people that betrayed Charlie, I would recommend that you come clean.
00:07:56.100 Okay?
00:07:56.700 I would recommend that you come clean because Charlie said some other things.
00:07:58.760 And I look at these things now.
00:08:00.200 I don't really have an issue with Candace. 1.00
00:08:03.080 I just think she's kind of dumb. 0.99
00:08:05.640 I mean, that's just, I think she's got a big ego. 1.00
00:08:08.680 And the reason she's in the position she's in is because she's a black woman who had conservative beliefs. 0.99
00:08:14.440 And that was really rare.
00:08:17.300 And that's okay if you come into it with some humility.
00:08:20.380 But people have just been telling her she's awesome for a decade.
00:08:26.680 So, yeah.
00:08:29.760 I mean, that's really my two cents.
00:08:31.380 And she just kind of, she just reminds me a lot of the women I cover. 0.81
00:08:36.900 I think, wow.
00:08:38.300 It's almost prophetic, right?
00:08:39.940 It's almost prophecy.
00:08:41.320 And I can tell you that this is a story that will have a happy ending, a tragedy that will have a happy ending.
00:08:46.940 The world is going to learn the truth about this.
00:08:48.620 They are.
00:08:49.540 I would recommend that you come clean.
00:08:51.660 There are lines in the sand that are being drawn right now between good and evil.
00:08:55.720 Many of you have picked the evil side.
00:08:56.980 Do you, podcasters, people that make videos, people that are taking money, people that look over there.
00:09:02.040 It's interesting.
00:09:03.000 Whenever I criticize a man, it's never, they never say it's me being envious.
00:09:07.920 But if I ever criticize a woman, that's always the go-to. 1.00
00:09:11.420 And it actually shows you how simpy conservatives are.