00:37:10.700now with the benefit of distance southern said she has been a young and angry engagement addict
00:37:26.600who is looking to the internet for approval it was all about keeping the excitement and the chaos
00:37:31.180but i had a short lifespan because there's no depth to it it was an ideological lap dance she
00:37:36.000said. People aren't really looking for politics. They're not looking for a worldview. They just
00:37:40.840want someone that's pretty and hot to affirm what they already feel and think and believe.
00:37:47.140Translation. I got my job because I was hot. It was easy money. I said what I had to say.
00:37:52.200The week I talked to Southern, the online account of a blonde all-American army girl called Jessica
00:37:56.940Foster was in the news. One photo showed Foster sporting a short-skinned army uniform and giving
00:38:02.600a speech with President Trump in attendance. Another showed her smiling and posing proudly
00:38:08.060alongside Trump and President Putin of Russia. Foster hit one million followers on Instagram
00:38:14.080before the mainstream media exposed her as an AI-generated scam. While the MAGA movement once
00:38:20.220harassed the appeal of pretty young women like Southern to amplify their views, now anyone can1.00
00:38:25.640generate a political avatar with an AI code. Late last year, Elon Musk's ex introduced a1.00
00:38:32.140location feature that revealed many MAGA and right-wing influencers who present themselves
00:38:36.500as patriotic Americans were actually operating outside the U.S., including Russia, Nigeria,
00:38:41.300and India. In the early days when I was getting started, everything was real, Southern said.
00:38:46.240Everything was curated by real people. Everything getting posted was real. Now it's just bots and
00:38:51.120algorithms. She warned was a sinister development. Now you don't know who's running it. If it's from
00:38:57.280a foreign government, some with a bunch of bots, or paid to have their video boosted. It's a real
00:39:02.560concern. Southern said it was in early 2018 that Robinson, whose real name is Steven,
00:39:11.120I'm not saying that, mentioned it to her that he had been in contact with some wealthy crypto
00:39:16.580investors in Europe who might be interested in sponsoring a large media project if they could
00:39:20.380all build it together. The investors turned out to be Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan who
00:39:24.900We're beginning an establishment, just beginning to establish a more online presence that would later form the foundations of the Manosphere.
00:39:33.460Now, again, the Manosphere is not Tate.
00:47:02.260Say, Hey, I thought I wasn't a whore. Turns out I was.
00:47:17.480I can't read the, Oh my God. Okay. I guess there's a little bit left. I'll read.
00:47:20.720I briefly wonder whether Southern's apparent contrition is part of her decade-long grip for attention.
00:47:28.560But unlike her pivot in 2020, this seems less performative.
00:47:31.640As a mother, she clearly feels a heavy responsibility to create a healthier online environment.
00:47:37.640So women, just so you know, so basically women's burden of performance is in her 20s.0.98
00:47:44.380Occasionally, a woman wins in her 30s.1.00
00:47:50.720And, um, the burden of performance is to get a hot guy to commit and the women that don't win0.85
00:47:58.160that are losers, they are trying to rationalize their loser-ness as not being a defect of their1.00
00:48:04.040personality or choices. So they are just going to blame it on the abuse of men as usual. Okay.0.99
00:48:11.140I can't read the rest of this. I can't. I'm sorry. I don't care. I don't.
00:48:24.940There's only two paragraphs left and I just, I don't care. You're a loser.
00:48:29.260okay so my question and we're gonna have a call in is could a woman like that be redeemed1.00
00:48:37.540and um what would she have to do to be redeemed now when I say redeemed I don't mean that she's1.00
00:48:47.060gonna have the high status she had when she was young I'm not even saying um that she
00:48:53.020necessarily like is revered in any way but like the where she is now i put her in the way back0.71
00:49:02.780of the church um and she's just an absolute loser now if christians would just hand her
00:49:08.500a microphone and say get on stage convert tomorrow but it's not me so anyways um1.00
00:49:16.280i think you know whores do have a path to redemption and here will be my game plan to her1.00
00:49:24.120return your kid to the dad you have a son sons need their father call the father apologize give1.00
00:49:33.780him custody number two drop the conservative act um you've not lived the life of a conservative0.58
00:49:39.680woman. You shot for the moon and you missed. You shot for the stars, you missed. Eat the L.0.94
00:49:46.120Embrace being a whore. You have a scarlet letter now. And instead of fighting people,1.00
00:49:53.460instead of fighting people about the fact that like trying to gaslight us into the fact you0.95
00:49:59.740were not a whore, just eat it. Embrace it. Maybe start an OnlyFans. High-end escorting. You know,0.98
00:50:06.140it's a service. Be prepared to pay for yourself for a lifetime. And come in with some humility
00:50:13.880if a man is, if you are so lucky to have a man take care of you. Bring humility to your next
00:50:21.680relationship. Men do forgive a lot for some humility. Stop talking forever. And you know
00:50:27.600what? If you want to stay on the internet, because this is your job to some degree,
00:50:30.980I will actually give you a compromise. You can do the job, but then never talk about yourself again
00:50:36.980and stop talking about your personal life. So just, you know, go in, talk about immigration,
00:50:47.020log off. That's it. You're so focused on getting the world's approval and validation,1.00
00:50:52.120you're being a terrible person in the process. And you don't have to be.
00:50:55.780That would be my path to redemption. I need good behavior from you, no false accusations,
00:51:00.280no craziness um maybe a year of jail time for the false accusation but you know since no one
00:51:06.780was thrown in jail maybe she needs some jail time i don't know i'm guys i'm gonna put the link in1.00
00:51:19.940the chat because do you know what she probably could use some more jail time
00:51:27.440could she be redeemed and what would you say she has to do doug mpa is going to come in first
00:51:35.040and then you guys can call in what would um redemption look like for her
00:51:57.440let me pin the link one second the link is in the youtube chat uh before i bring up doug mpa
00:52:07.660i'm going to give you my rules for the show i would love for you guys to call in there's a lot
00:52:14.380of smart intelligent men that have really good ideas that i love having on the show however
00:52:18.180um if it's your first time calling in don't fear i don't bite it's pretty easy to get on the show
00:52:23.740if I'm being honest. Um, however, I would like for you to come on. Please do not tell me how
00:52:29.780much you love the show. Please do not tell me how excited you are to meet me. This is no insult to
00:52:35.000you. Um, but I'm, you're going to come up. I'm going to ask you a question. Can Lauren Southern
00:52:41.500be redeemed? And you just get to the point. And if you know, we're vibing, I might ask you that
00:52:51.860you stay on the panel sometimes people have good answers and i don't have them stay um just because
00:52:57.060other people vibe a little better um i do give um preferential treatment to people with their
00:53:04.660cameras on they can come on first and people i know sorry i have nepotism i don't care
00:53:11.300the link is stream yards and it's in the description so you just click it um the reason
00:53:16.980i give preferential treatment to the cameras on is because um i just think there's something about
00:53:23.460saying what you're gonna say with your face but i do understand people have jobs so you know yes
00:53:28.660doug mpa doesn't have to because he's been my moderator for four years sorry sorry guys you
00:53:34.660know some people get preferential treatment it just is what it is um i think it just needs a google
00:53:42.820account um if you have mic issues i'm just gonna cut you because i i don't have time for that
00:53:48.820i don't care figure out stream yard it's not my problem you can try a couple different browsers
00:53:54.180sometimes that fixes it yeah all right doug mpa welcome to the show thank you for coming on um
00:54:01.540how can lauren southern be redeemed so i'm gonna i'm gonna expand the question for the1.00
00:54:07.460callers so so okay lauren southern is a loser single mom on social media so1.00
00:54:19.300can lauren southern be redeemed that's a question what's uh the female version of the word loser1.00
00:54:26.180because when you think of the word loser you always think of a guy with cheetos in his mom's1.00
00:54:30.020basement and just in general if a woman's a loser just in general single mom student loan debt1.00
00:54:39.460talk too much on the internet can a female loser be redeemed in general and what does that look0.98
00:54:45.540like understand i'm saying so um first off i didn't know that lauren southern was canadian0.99
00:54:51.940number one so i don't know how she could be a right-wing e-girl and vegan canadian two
00:54:57.700jenna's too really yeah bro these canadians come in and tell us how to do politics it's like0.55
00:55:04.980you guys have you seen your country canadians you guys better sit down tell a shit like go back
00:55:15.940your capital is pageetville and tell us all about politics over here so um and then also i didn't
00:55:23.700know that lauren southern was married and pretty much had the life of a trad and said he was too
00:55:29.860controlled she's cooked she's cooked i had no idea so there's literally no i mean moving forward she
00:55:39.780she wants a traditional man but she just proved that she doesn't want a traditional life
00:55:46.420i think she doesn't want the trad man anymore i don't get she banged destiny after the divorce
00:55:51.220after that oh okay okay the destiny she left the trad men she went full destiny0.72
00:55:58.180uh yikes what a l so i forgot to add that that makes you more of a lou you bang goodbye guy0.86
00:56:09.700i know his poopy dick was all in oh on her mouth dude oh he's probably bang some dude the same0.99
00:56:16.740that she did she banged lauren southern ah anyway um so i think lauren southern needs to go full of0.92
00:56:27.220like if you embrace being kind of notorious and then embrace being a whore like you know1.00
00:56:35.860she's 31 32 right now she can get a solved three four five years and cash out that way1.00
00:56:41.380okay what if she wants to be a respectable member of society any any path bank destiny that's not
00:56:49.740possible okay okay um no path you say no path to redemption uh you know it would be the same1.00
00:57:00.100i would put her on the same criteria as these e-girls that go to the church she needs to sit0.98
00:57:06.620down for about 10 years not say a word you know do something actually worthwhile in society so1.00
00:57:14.920actually get like maybe get a real job where she produces something that benefits society but she
00:57:20.940says get off social media for 10 years you know maybe get a career in something that produces1.00
00:57:28.180something for society and i would say you know get married and have kids but she's not going to do
00:57:33.300that so yeah the because you know i'm gonna i'm gonna use rachel wilson as an example they're not0.75
00:57:42.400the same but you know she was a single mother and now i would say she's a functioning member
00:57:48.180of society right but she had good behavior for like a decade plus you know so there is redemption0.89
00:57:56.380not but destiny that's so much worse yeah that's such like that's such a hole to dig your way out1.00
00:58:04.920of how do you dig your way out of that yeah and when you think about it like when women are 500.99
00:58:09.020and 60 no one's really when they're old no one's really talking about what they like no one cares0.77
00:58:14.820anymore what they did when they're young because they're old lauren's she just turned 30 so she's
00:58:23.540be 31 this year okay let's see mark welcome to the show thank you for coming um what is your
00:58:32.740thought can lauren southern be redeemed and how technically yes realistically probably not based0.78
00:58:40.500on her pattern of behavior step number one she has to face herself in the mirror and be completely0.87
00:58:45.940honest about her reasons for what she did and stop trying to justify stop making excuses stop playing
00:58:51.460the victim she has responsibility for what she did she can't do that it's there's no point even
00:58:57.060talking about the path forward because that's step number one for all of us in life you've done it
00:59:03.700you've spoken from experience that you had to face yourself and that's why you're saying the
00:59:07.860exact same thing to her she has to stop making excuses so how would you how would you tell her
00:59:12.820if she wanted to publicly like do that how would you um like what would you tell her to say0.99
00:59:22.340She has to come clean. Be honest. No excuses. She has to even say out loud, I've been making excuses. I've been in denial. I see that. I recognize it's not going to help me achieve what I want in life. So I'm not going to do that anymore. I'm going to hold myself accountable to do the painful thing of being honest with myself about all of my choices, all of my actions. And I'm going to be an advocate for people to do the same.
00:59:45.340She has to advocate for people being honest with themselves instead of defending people who are making excuses, who are looking for justifications.
01:08:15.800Oh, yeah. I mean, it's like, she probably
01:08:18.400got invited on yachts that we can't even dream of and she just fumbled fumbled um carlos welcome to
01:08:26.840the show hello what's your thoughts on the topic could lauren southern be redeemed so i don't think
01:08:33.960she can be redeemed i think she needs to like find or choose a religion like yeah like either
01:08:41.140like christianity or muslim because imagine lauren southern islam oh my god yeah like if1.00
01:08:48.340if she's gonna be like showing her body and doing all that she should be like muslim go to three0.97
01:08:52.660years dagestan forget about it and just like have put like put on what is it a hijab put that on0.97
01:08:59.060just so she's all covered up well christianity they rejected her they called her a they
01:09:06.900called her a whore in christianity but what that's up how would they vote christianity i said well0.99
01:09:12.900christianity what's the difference she banged so many she was banging everybody so of course0.92
01:09:19.300they're gonna call it destiny that's a yikes she banged allegedly elijah schaefer allegedly
01:09:26.020here's how i look at it well christianity is the people who like the title of being a christian
01:09:30.820but they're in denial about who they actually are they don't actually look in the mirror
01:09:34.740they want to be a good person they want to feel like a good person but they don't actually are
01:09:39.300they're not actually honest about their heart and their motivations for what they're doing
01:09:43.860so they claim it but they don't actually live it yes when push comes to shove their actions
01:09:48.820don't prove what they say they believe and they usually have a uh this attitude of i'm morally
01:09:55.700superior to you because i'm a christian yeah that's that's completely wrong they're like
01:10:01.060completely missing the point like they say they believe the bible but when push comes to shove
01:10:07.060that's not what happens i heard it expressed like this if you call yourself a christian
01:10:10.740when pressure is applied to you christ is what's supposed to come out his character
01:10:14.500is supposed to be revealed in you when you're put through the fire when pressure is applied to
01:10:18.340if any other character comes out of you chances are you don't actually know him
01:10:23.620yes like okay so that makes sense and if you say you believe the bible there's a verse where
01:10:30.580jesus says no one is good except god so if you if you believe what he said why are you trying to
01:10:36.580call yourself good why are you saying i'm a good person at the end of the day if you say you believe
01:10:41.860the bible it says we will all stand in judgment all things will be revealed let me put in the
01:10:46.660simpler words there is no excuse no justification you can make that he will not see through and call
01:10:53.140you out on so stop trying you're not going to make any excuse that sticks so stop trying and just be
01:10:59.220honest about who you are and the reasons what you do and then you have the same thing about do i have
01:11:04.980peace with myself for my reasons or at the end of the day do i not have peace about this and maybe
01:11:10.740i should stop doing this it's not same real but with lauren i don't think i don't know she needs
01:11:18.340them you said she got rejected by the woke christianity so i have no idea which you know
01:11:25.380how bad you know how bad it has to be if you get rejected by the woke christians yeah
01:11:33.780you get rejected by it look at how the woke christians are exactly the same as the i don't
01:11:39.060know you have to meet maybe she's unstable she has to keep going down the road that she's going
01:11:43.940and trying to figure it out from them sorry what were you gonna say mark if you look at the woke
01:11:48.900christians they're no different than the liberals you have to meet their idea of morality you have
01:11:53.860to check all the boxes if you fail one you are dead to them you have no value you're worse than
01:12:00.180anyone else look how on the liberal side they eat anyone who doesn't check all the boxes who doesn't
01:12:06.500bend the knee to every single part of their ideology you say i i don't quite agree with that
01:12:12.340they turn and attack you it's the same exact mentality people who are in denial about their
01:12:17.220own psychology who are in denial about their need for validation which is why they choose to be part
01:12:23.140of a group they don't also character the left and will christians you're never woke enough there's
01:12:30.180always some new every couple of months you know every news cycle there's some new layer to be
01:12:36.260woke by and if you're not that if you don't keep going with the woke they're going to eat you alive
01:12:42.500well christianity the same way if you if you're a christian but you have to accept all sorts of
01:12:48.500levels of degeneracy and there's no there's no level to stop so you may stop at a certain point
01:12:55.620the rest of the work is going to keep going and if you don't go along with them well then you're
01:12:59.380screwed yeah there's a they say we have to show them grace grace is i understand what you're doing
01:13:08.260so i'm not gonna blame you but i will hold you accountable right uh i heard this term it's called
01:13:14.020ruthless compassion i'm so compassionate for you for the hurt you're causing to yourself
01:13:18.980i'm gonna call you out on all of your and hold you accountable for it i'm not gonna let it slide
01:13:23.940i'm not gonna let you give any excuse or justification i'm gonna hold you accountable
01:13:28.500because at the end of the day you're hurting yourself it's that is what a better explanation
01:13:33.940of grace is we're like hey you don't deserve forgiveness yeah because you're trying to
01:13:38.580compare yourself to somebody who's perfect god but he forgives you the only thing he asks is
01:13:43.460admit that you need help if you refuse to admit that you need help fixing yourself
01:13:50.100nobody can help you if you can't be honest with yourself nobody can help you
01:13:57.220doug mp about that yeah i had you know about that i agree and here's the thing about the
01:14:03.940great woke the thing about christianity it has tenants and you choose to be a christian
01:14:08.260you choose to go by those rules so i don't know why you would choose to call yourself
01:14:13.740christian but then not not do exactly what what mark is saying it's laid out if you make the
01:14:20.760choice to identify as you have to you have to obey the rules and he's giving you step one two
01:14:25.980three four five right now on this on the stream understand what i'm saying like nice and easy
01:14:31.080so yeah yeah i agree with him 100 speaking about biblical christian i was thinking about
01:14:37.840this topic a few days ago what does god actually want from humanity and i arrived at this
01:14:43.600understanding he wants the emotional reward of people choosing to be loyal to him because of
01:14:49.520his character look at the emotional reward a father has when his children choose to trust
01:14:55.280him and be loyal to him because they've seen his character look at the emotional reward that a
01:15:00.000husband has when a wife says i have all these options i'm going to say no to all of them because
01:15:07.040i'm going to choose you because of your character that emotional reward that emotional fulfillment
01:15:13.120it hits us men so deep that there's nothing else that compares to it and that's what god like
01:15:19.760desires from us where we look at him and we choose we're not forced we're not brainwashed we're not
01:15:26.240manipulated we're not controlled we choose voluntarily because we see his character and
01:15:30.880and we admire his character so much, we choose to be loyal.
01:15:35.420And if you look at the dating market, a lot of men, they're looking for that.
01:15:40.840They want to be chosen based on their character,
01:15:44.060but they're looking at the wrong type of women who will actually look at character.0.99
01:15:48.440They're prioritizing beauty and sex, not character in the woman.1.00
01:15:52.500And that's why these women, you keep running into the same scenario playing out.1.00
01:15:56.820These women are entitled and ungrateful.1.00
01:15:58.980they don't appreciate the man for his character that's why it always ends the same way i don't0.96
01:16:05.460think yeah i don't ask a question that's i don't think that's exclusive to beauty though i think
01:16:11.660that that's 50 60 years of feminism like like feminism teaches women don't because remember
01:16:16.620it's about like women tell themselves that they don't need a man character is what a woman needs0.59
01:16:22.980right these women feel they don't need a man so now we're neck deep in women that are trying to0.94
01:16:28.620get what they want we all know that what women want is bad what women need is good so i don't
01:16:34.760think it's just a beauty problem i think it's from the uggos to the pretty ones the character
01:16:40.520is not even in the equation sean go ahead yeah i i wanted to ask him uh like what percentage of
01:16:46.660women do you think in the united states today of let's say dating and marriageable age do you0.99
01:16:52.060think actually have good intact character if you have to be very honest because you're basically
01:16:58.320saying men need to look for these women but you know i've looked here and there i really don't
01:17:03.000see them anywhere most men who do get married are just you know making their devil's bargain with
01:17:08.340the best that they can find and just calling it at that point and at least the smart ones say i'm
01:17:12.780probably not going to get it anyways so i better get at least good quality ass like i don't blame
01:17:16.420those guys i don't either i don't either what percentage i have no idea i'd be pulling a number
01:17:24.740out of thin air i don't know what the percentage is do they exist technically yes realistically
01:17:29.780you're probably not going to find one you're going to have to build her you're going to have
01:17:32.980to find a woman who respects you enough that she'll put in the work to listen to you and you
01:17:37.700can build up her character pearl said in one of her other videos that chances are statistically1.00
01:17:43.300speaking most men are going to have to marry a reformed whore so us men we have to decide is she1.00
01:17:48.900worth the work it's going to take to get her all the way does she show enough promise and does she0.99
01:17:55.780respect me enough to put in the work when i'm holding her accountable to not crash out but to
01:18:00.580actually listen and understand i'm not being controlling i just see the best possible version
01:18:06.020of her she hasn't achieved yet if she doesn't see that in you walk away it's not even worth your time
01:18:11.940a lot of men are going to other countries because they realize that the juice is not worth the
01:18:16.260squeeze here in america because of how deep uh feminism has corrupted the mindset so
01:18:23.220so then what should men do going forward are you like passports or something do you think they
01:18:27.620like like look on this channel we always say that you you should find some0.96
01:18:32.100ukrainian refugee whose whose bills was bombed by the russians they're desperate they'll fake it0.84
01:18:39.540hey you know what i always say i'm ukrainian my parents immigrated from the sylvanian right
01:18:44.340before it fell apart i know that culture they've got feminism it looks different but they've got
01:18:49.780it too oh really i grew up i'm still fighting in my family doug yeah i keep i keep telling you
01:18:56.580you gotta stop buying the stream of the passport uh trust me all the country no i keep saying
01:19:02.840because because listen to this right so okay most men are never going to get genuine desire0.54
01:19:11.480and genuine sex from a woman in the west ever right so hold on so so the next best thing would
01:19:18.200be you have to have something that that woman needs badly enough maybe something that'll change0.50
01:19:24.360her life right so if you marry a woman and bring her over three years for her to get a green card1.00
01:19:31.960and citizenship right she will be traditional cook clean screw you like like she needs a green card0.99
01:19:39.960right and and and even if she dips out after that you'll get a taste of a life that most men in the1.00
01:19:46.120west and most american men will never get ever green i want a green card sex is sex that most
01:19:53.320men will never get in the west okay that's true but at the end of the day are you going to have
01:20:02.040peace with yourself when you know she did not choose you for you she chose you for your benefits1.00
01:20:08.600that you provided to her women do that anyway on a long enough time frame that's all women
01:20:13.640that's all women bro on a long enough time frame that's all and maybe for some guys it feels like
01:20:17.800that for the first three years first five maybe ten if they're lucky on a long enough time frame
01:20:23.080it is all women it's all transactional bro see i want to highlight something uh-huh this wanting
01:20:30.440because of benefits versus wanting for character all of you can now relate to what god experienced
01:20:36.440There's a story when God brings Israel out of Egypt, and then they're grumbling.
01:20:41.120They're not thankful for what he did for them, for who he was to them, that he was faithful, he kept his promises.
01:20:46.900They're grumbling about what they don't have.
01:20:49.220So that sense of entitlement, not being appreciative for who you are, all of us men who've experienced it, psychologically, we can all relate to God.