Pearl - March 21, 2026


Disowning Your Son For Being Gay: Did He Cook?


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Length

9 minutes

Words per Minute

196.84445

Word Count

1,913

Sentence Count

5

Hate Speech Sentences

10


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00:00:00.000 would disown a child for being gay that's about as homophobic as it gets that's your opinion and
00:00:04.400 in my opinion that's not it's a fact of what homophobia is i i'm just curious why you did
00:00:09.360 why you did the show did you not know louis through did you think it would be something
00:00:13.680 else are you pleased with the way you came over so i had no idea who louis through was obviously
00:00:20.080 now i know he's a great uh documentarian i can't see you now again bro what is it i can see you
00:00:25.360 you know um you know the the morning that he was coming around i had some of my team come to me and
00:00:31.100 go do you do you realize what this is do you realize who he is i wasn't asked and i'm still
00:00:36.060 not bothered about it you know some people might think it was a mistake going on me i thought it
00:00:41.980 was a very very fun experience i've even texted him since saying that you know i enjoyed making
00:00:47.140 it and the backlash i've received from it i also enjoy that as well because i've got you know i
00:00:52.420 and rage bait people in my dms which i which i enjoy doing anyway i mean look as i was saying
00:00:57.920 to you when we try to start this what you want to do with your life is entirely down to you
00:01:03.620 it doesn't it's no it's no impact on me whatsoever the only interest i would have a bit like louis
00:01:10.540 theroux is the influence that you wield yeah so this is about the netflix documentary so there
00:01:15.360 was a netflix documentary done on the manosphere and it was just some beta simp mad that high value
00:01:22.180 men get bitches or famous guys get bitches it was just a cope oh no the women don't want to be there
00:01:28.260 yeah they do shut up you know over young men and when i was watching the netflix show i was just
00:01:35.220 curious what you want that influence to be because your mother's in the show and we'll come to a
00:01:41.060 quite an amusing clip where she talks about me actually um she doesn't want you to do this
00:01:45.780 interview i think was the bottom line so you're defying your mother again and we'll come to that
00:01:51.940 But your mother's, you know, I was watching her
00:01:54.740 and I was watching you interact with them.
00:01:56.760 I actually knew your father a bit back in the 90s,
00:02:00.320 Victor Abugu, who was an England rugby player.
00:02:02.940 Met him a few times, liked him.
00:02:04.820 And we can come to that as well.
00:02:06.460 You know, and I'm just curious how somebody whose mom is like that,
00:02:10.360 whose dad was like he was when I knew him,
00:02:14.640 how somebody ends up thinking that the key to life,
00:02:18.180 that the joy of life, the satisfaction of life,
00:02:20.980 comes from rage baiting people in their dm rather than something a little bit more you know i hesitate
00:02:28.260 to use words where your fan base will go oh shut up granddad you don't get it but is there not more
00:02:36.740 to life to be achieved than rage baiting morons in their dms okay let me well i'm glad you called
00:02:43.780 them morons because that is the idiots that i've attracted from the mainstream coverage with the
00:02:49.460 the documentary but there's a lot more to life for me the main thing in life is making money
00:02:55.360 being healthy and enjoying that money with my family and having great experiences the experiences
00:03:01.360 that i have now uh since i've come back from mother's day whatever with my mom and the last
00:03:05.740 you know five six years since i've been on social media have been great and they're the things that
00:03:11.020 i'll be looking back on when i'm 60 70 years old you know the nice dinners the nice weather just
00:03:17.580 the the last times that i've shared so i i don't think the beauty of life is rage baiting retards
00:03:22.860 in my comments but you know when i'm sat there what do you actually want your younger male
00:03:28.540 followers to end up being like a genuine question in the netflix show what i saw was a guy who says
00:03:36.300 look on the one hand if i had a daughter who did only fans i'd disown her and yet you are directly
00:03:43.500 involved in promoting a load of women who are on only fat right you're you're a smart man right you
00:03:49.580 wouldn't be in this position if you weren't a smart man you can answer that question yourself
00:03:53.420 you know exactly why i'm promoting girls i'm not even actively promoting any right now but
00:03:58.020 you know exactly why i'm doing it you don't need to ask me that question because again women are
00:04:03.540 going to be on only fans regardless so like who cares i mean he might as well be the one in charge
00:04:09.140 you know so why are you asking a question you already know no no i'm not a very very easy
00:04:14.020 you're missing my point harrison i'm not disputing that you are making money or you're perfectly
00:04:19.220 entitled to i'm just curious why you would want to send a message to young men you're trying to
00:04:25.940 be influential over to the extent where you want them to part with money to be like you
00:04:30.780 and on the one hand your message is only fans is awful these girls that do it are awful but on the
00:04:37.620 other hand you're making money promoting them it's it's hypocritical look i think only fans
00:04:43.700 girls can do what they want you know i'm not bothered it's the same way i think people can
00:04:48.600 be gay if they want i'm not bothered when it comes into my family where i have control over
00:04:53.240 the situation that's where i'll dictate what happens so it's a very valid point that i don't
00:05:00.120 want my daughter to be on only fans i don't want my daughter to be in the red light district in
00:05:05.400 amsterdam but if i went to amsterdam and i was walking down and i saw a colombian nine out of
00:05:10.620 ten would i go in and visit well depends how many drinks i had that night but that doesn't mean i
00:05:15.860 necessarily agree with it or would like that girl to be my daughter or would raise my daughter like
00:05:20.460 that makes perfect sense and if your son he's essentially saying like he doesn't pick the
00:05:25.760 societies in women are whores anyway i mean that's how they see it like women want to be whores he
00:05:30.740 might as well make money you know if you had a son who turned out to be gay you would disown him
00:05:36.220 you said no my actual life ambition right like genuinely since since young is to grow up make
00:05:43.540 money retire my retire my mom meet a nice girl from a good family then have a gay child who
00:05:51.000 fucks other guys that's what i want so i i genuinely want that i also want him to go out
00:05:55.640 the weekend and put makeup on and um you know listen i want i can hear your fan base cheering
00:06:03.800 you on i know what you're doing it's the double down treble down in fact i saw some of your
00:06:09.160 posts on social media before you did this interview i'm gonna own everything i'm gonna
00:06:14.040 double down i'm gonna play that game grentice did that a bit with me and you know what i think
00:06:19.480 because pierce is like a simp so he's in the system the woman like under women's thumb
00:06:31.000 and these guys like you could argue maybe that they're like you know degenerate whatever but
00:06:36.200 at least like that's why women prefer pimps to simps because the pimps at least are living on
00:06:41.240 their own terms you know you're a bro harris call me pierce i'll call you what you don't want to be
00:06:46.440 my bro i don't think we'll be friends i don't really want to be your bro many because i have
00:06:50.880 two bros of my own one of whom was an army colonel and one of whom is uh an excellent man as well
00:06:57.060 however let me just ask you what you said in the documentary you clearly actually would by your
00:07:03.480 admission disown a son who said they were gay and yet your mother you said hates people that are
00:07:08.940 racist sexist homophobic and so on why be so brazenly homophobic if your own mother who you
00:07:16.120 clearly love and respect and care about if she's so against that why would you be so happy to be
00:07:23.300 as an adult you have the right to your own life you don't have to do what your parents want to do
00:07:28.100 um you can't live your whole life based on what your mom wants you to do if that was true i
00:07:33.320 wouldn't have the show guys brazenly homophobic i wouldn't say i'm homophobic you would disown
00:07:39.160 a child for being gay that's about as homophobic as it gets that's your opinion and in my opinion
00:07:44.620 that's not a fact of what homophobia is okay what do you think homophobia is i think homophobia
00:07:50.580 would be severely discriminating against gays and i think that you know it may be going around and
00:08:01.380 bullying them or whatever could be considered homophobic you don't think i don't really care
00:08:06.560 what the definition is bullying them because of their sexuality i'm not bullying them i'm not
00:08:11.880 bullying my child disowning them it's not bullying what is it definitely not bullying what would you
00:08:18.080 call it you disown your own child for being gay something they couldn't possibly i'd call it good
00:08:23.740 parenting that's what i'd call it i'd call it good parenting really because again at least he has his
00:08:29.560 own rules right i mean he has the right to you know as long as it's legal to rule his house the
00:08:36.120 way he wants why is another man telling him how he should run his household you know
00:08:39.560 we clearly have different beliefs i don't care what your belief is if you grow up okay we don't
00:08:44.960 we both come from the same belief which is we were we were brought up by mothers who did not
00:08:51.660 share this view so actually we're very similar it's just you've taken a weird turn where your
00:08:56.780 mother who hates homophobia has got a son who actually thinks it's perfectly okay to say you
00:09:03.000 would disown your own child your own son if they said they were gay would you be happy if you
00:09:08.520 raised your son and your son came out gay would you be happy piz would you be happy piz if you
00:09:12.720 had one child one son you wouldn't care no okay then that's that's your beliefs your hair is
00:09:18.760 voice raised like he's not even being honest with himself and i think that's like the liars that
00:09:23.520 people hate the most people that aren't honest with themselves you know it's kind of like the
00:09:27.360 guy that gets caught um like doing something wrong the person that's like no i didn't do it i didn't
00:09:33.640 do it you're like okay you obviously did it but the guy that's like not like ah sorry I just
00:09:40.500 really like cookie it's like a different you know response