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- March 21, 2026
Disowning Your Son For Being Gay: Did He Cook?
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9 minutes
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196.84445
Word Count
1,913
Sentence Count
5
Hate Speech Sentences
10
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would disown a child for being gay that's about as homophobic as it gets that's your opinion and
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in my opinion that's not it's a fact of what homophobia is i i'm just curious why you did
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why you did the show did you not know louis through did you think it would be something
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else are you pleased with the way you came over so i had no idea who louis through was obviously
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now i know he's a great uh documentarian i can't see you now again bro what is it i can see you
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you know um you know the the morning that he was coming around i had some of my team come to me and
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go do you do you realize what this is do you realize who he is i wasn't asked and i'm still
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not bothered about it you know some people might think it was a mistake going on me i thought it
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was a very very fun experience i've even texted him since saying that you know i enjoyed making
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it and the backlash i've received from it i also enjoy that as well because i've got you know i
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and rage bait people in my dms which i which i enjoy doing anyway i mean look as i was saying
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to you when we try to start this what you want to do with your life is entirely down to you
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it doesn't it's no it's no impact on me whatsoever the only interest i would have a bit like louis
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theroux is the influence that you wield yeah so this is about the netflix documentary so there
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was a netflix documentary done on the manosphere and it was just some beta simp mad that high value
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men get bitches or famous guys get bitches it was just a cope oh no the women don't want to be there
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yeah they do shut up you know over young men and when i was watching the netflix show i was just
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curious what you want that influence to be because your mother's in the show and we'll come to a
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quite an amusing clip where she talks about me actually um she doesn't want you to do this
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interview i think was the bottom line so you're defying your mother again and we'll come to that
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But your mother's, you know, I was watching her
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and I was watching you interact with them.
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I actually knew your father a bit back in the 90s,
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Victor Abugu, who was an England rugby player.
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Met him a few times, liked him.
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And we can come to that as well.
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You know, and I'm just curious how somebody whose mom is like that,
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whose dad was like he was when I knew him,
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how somebody ends up thinking that the key to life,
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that the joy of life, the satisfaction of life,
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comes from rage baiting people in their dm rather than something a little bit more you know i hesitate
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to use words where your fan base will go oh shut up granddad you don't get it but is there not more
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to life to be achieved than rage baiting morons in their dms okay let me well i'm glad you called
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them morons because that is the idiots that i've attracted from the mainstream coverage with the
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the documentary but there's a lot more to life for me the main thing in life is making money
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being healthy and enjoying that money with my family and having great experiences the experiences
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that i have now uh since i've come back from mother's day whatever with my mom and the last
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you know five six years since i've been on social media have been great and they're the things that
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i'll be looking back on when i'm 60 70 years old you know the nice dinners the nice weather just
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the the last times that i've shared so i i don't think the beauty of life is rage baiting retards
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in my comments but you know when i'm sat there what do you actually want your younger male
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followers to end up being like a genuine question in the netflix show what i saw was a guy who says
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look on the one hand if i had a daughter who did only fans i'd disown her and yet you are directly
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involved in promoting a load of women who are on only fat right you're you're a smart man right you
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wouldn't be in this position if you weren't a smart man you can answer that question yourself
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you know exactly why i'm promoting girls i'm not even actively promoting any right now but
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you know exactly why i'm doing it you don't need to ask me that question because again women are
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going to be on only fans regardless so like who cares i mean he might as well be the one in charge
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you know so why are you asking a question you already know no no i'm not a very very easy
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you're missing my point harrison i'm not disputing that you are making money or you're perfectly
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entitled to i'm just curious why you would want to send a message to young men you're trying to
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be influential over to the extent where you want them to part with money to be like you
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and on the one hand your message is only fans is awful these girls that do it are awful but on the
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other hand you're making money promoting them it's it's hypocritical look i think only fans
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girls can do what they want you know i'm not bothered it's the same way i think people can
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be gay if they want i'm not bothered when it comes into my family where i have control over
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the situation that's where i'll dictate what happens so it's a very valid point that i don't
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want my daughter to be on only fans i don't want my daughter to be in the red light district in
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amsterdam but if i went to amsterdam and i was walking down and i saw a colombian nine out of
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ten would i go in and visit well depends how many drinks i had that night but that doesn't mean i
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necessarily agree with it or would like that girl to be my daughter or would raise my daughter like
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that makes perfect sense and if your son he's essentially saying like he doesn't pick the
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societies in women are whores anyway i mean that's how they see it like women want to be whores he
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might as well make money you know if you had a son who turned out to be gay you would disown him
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you said no my actual life ambition right like genuinely since since young is to grow up make
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money retire my retire my mom meet a nice girl from a good family then have a gay child who
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fucks other guys that's what i want so i i genuinely want that i also want him to go out
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the weekend and put makeup on and um you know listen i want i can hear your fan base cheering
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you on i know what you're doing it's the double down treble down in fact i saw some of your
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posts on social media before you did this interview i'm gonna own everything i'm gonna
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double down i'm gonna play that game grentice did that a bit with me and you know what i think
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because pierce is like a simp so he's in the system the woman like under women's thumb
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and these guys like you could argue maybe that they're like you know degenerate whatever but
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at least like that's why women prefer pimps to simps because the pimps at least are living on
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their own terms you know you're a bro harris call me pierce i'll call you what you don't want to be
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my bro i don't think we'll be friends i don't really want to be your bro many because i have
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two bros of my own one of whom was an army colonel and one of whom is uh an excellent man as well
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however let me just ask you what you said in the documentary you clearly actually would by your
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admission disown a son who said they were gay and yet your mother you said hates people that are
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racist sexist homophobic and so on why be so brazenly homophobic if your own mother who you
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clearly love and respect and care about if she's so against that why would you be so happy to be
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as an adult you have the right to your own life you don't have to do what your parents want to do
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um you can't live your whole life based on what your mom wants you to do if that was true i
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wouldn't have the show guys brazenly homophobic i wouldn't say i'm homophobic you would disown
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a child for being gay that's about as homophobic as it gets that's your opinion and in my opinion
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that's not a fact of what homophobia is okay what do you think homophobia is i think homophobia
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would be severely discriminating against gays and i think that you know it may be going around and
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bullying them or whatever could be considered homophobic you don't think i don't really care
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what the definition is bullying them because of their sexuality i'm not bullying them i'm not
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bullying my child disowning them it's not bullying what is it definitely not bullying what would you
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call it you disown your own child for being gay something they couldn't possibly i'd call it good
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parenting that's what i'd call it i'd call it good parenting really because again at least he has his
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own rules right i mean he has the right to you know as long as it's legal to rule his house the
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way he wants why is another man telling him how he should run his household you know
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we clearly have different beliefs i don't care what your belief is if you grow up okay we don't
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we both come from the same belief which is we were we were brought up by mothers who did not
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share this view so actually we're very similar it's just you've taken a weird turn where your
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mother who hates homophobia has got a son who actually thinks it's perfectly okay to say you
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would disown your own child your own son if they said they were gay would you be happy if you
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raised your son and your son came out gay would you be happy piz would you be happy piz if you
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had one child one son you wouldn't care no okay then that's that's your beliefs your hair is
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voice raised like he's not even being honest with himself and i think that's like the liars that
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people hate the most people that aren't honest with themselves you know it's kind of like the
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guy that gets caught um like doing something wrong the person that's like no i didn't do it i didn't
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do it you're like okay you obviously did it but the guy that's like not like ah sorry I just
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really like cookie it's like a different you know response
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