Pearl - Do Modern Women Have to Have a Hoe Phase To Win？ (Call in)

00:00:01.000 What is up, everybody? Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily here on the Audacity Network.

00:00:08.880 I appreciate you guys bringing your time and attention here because you could bring it anywhere,

00:00:13.040 and for some reason you guys choose to bring it here. So thank you guys all for tuning in.

00:00:19.720 All right, so today we are talking about women's hoe phase.

00:00:23.560 And to start the show, I really wanted to read my best friend in the entire world, Rolo Tomasi's article talking about women's reproductive schedules of mating.

00:00:42.140 And I just thought, I thought this was such a good article to sum up why women have hoe phases and why at times hoe phases do benefit women.

00:00:53.560 This isn't what I wish to be true. Before I get into it, this isn't what I wish to be true. This

00:01:00.120 is not what I hope to be true. But a lot of women find love during a hoe phase. I got to be honest.

00:01:07.800 I got to be honest here. I've seen it. I'm not prescribing this, but I will tell you the benefits

00:01:14.680 and the cons. All right, so Rola Tomasi wrote this article in 2011 called The Schedules of

00:01:24.160 Mating. There are methods and social contravences women have used for centuries to ensure that the

00:01:34.580 best male's genes are selected and secured with the best male provisioning she's capable of

00:01:41.420 attracting ideally the man should i exemplify both but rarely do they exist in the same man

00:01:47.900 particularly these days so he's starting off talking about alpha fox beta box i'm gonna

00:01:53.900 share my screen. Hold on. I'll go this way. Okay. So in the interest of achieving her biological

00:02:16.880 imperative and prompted by an innate need for security, the feminine as a whole had to develop

00:02:22.720 social conventions and methodologies to affect this. Men are not only up against a female genetic

00:02:29.540 imperative, but also centuries-long feminine social conventions established and adapted from

00:02:35.360 a time long before human beings could accurately determine genetic origins. I've detailed in many

00:02:42.640 prior threads that mate selection is psycho-biological function that the millennia of

00:02:48.060 evolution has hardwired into both sexes. So internalized and socialized is the process

00:02:53.720 into our collective psyches that we rarely recognize we're subject to these motive motivators,

00:02:59.500 even when we continually repeat the same behaviors manifested by them, such as having a second kid

00:03:05.640 with the alpha fucks bad boy. So it's like, you know, when you see that single mother

00:03:09.740 and she just keeps having kids with these criminals, well, that's the alpha fucks guy.

00:03:16.320 you know, her biological imperative is to get the best genetics possible for her kids.

00:03:22.080 So saying that we're not subject to conditions, we're, to conditions we are only vaguely aware

00:03:29.760 of is a bit naive. It's simple, deductive logic to follow that for a species to survive,

00:03:38.160 it must provide its offspring with the best possible conditions to ensure its survival.

00:03:44.260 either that or to reproduce in such quality that it ensures survival the obvious application of

00:03:50.740 this for women is sharing parental investment with the best possible mate her own genetics

00:03:57.320 allow her to attract and who can provide long-term security for her and any potential offspring

00:04:03.060 thus women are biologically physiologically and sociologically the filters of their own

00:04:08.900 reproduction. Whereas men's reproductive methodology is to scatter as much of his

00:04:14.060 genetic material as humanly possible to the widest available quantity of sexually available females.

00:04:20.400 He, of course, has his own criteria for mating, selecting, and determining the best genetic

00:04:25.500 pairing for his reproduction. She's got to be hot. But his criteria is certainly less

00:04:31.880 discriminating than for women, i.e. no one's ugly after 2 a.m. This is evidenced in our own hormonal

00:04:38.740 biology, men possess between 12 and 17 times the amount of testosterone, the primary hormone and

00:04:45.680 sexual arousal women do, and women produce substantially more estrogen, instrument in

00:04:51.420 sexual caution and oxytocin, fostering feelings of security and nurturing than men. That stated,

00:04:58.000 both of these methodologies conflict in practice. For a woman to best ensure the survival of her

00:05:04.160 young, a man must necessarily abandon his method of reproduction in favor of her own. This sets a

00:05:10.800 contradictory imperative for him to pair with a woman who will satisfy his methodology. A male

00:05:16.420 must sacrifice his reproductive schedule to satisfy that of the woman he pairs with. Thus,

00:05:21.860 so much potential genetic or thus with so much genetic potential at stake on his part of the

00:05:28.840 risk he's he wants not only to ensure that she is the best possible candidate for breeding and

00:05:34.260 future breeding but also to know that his progeny progeny will benefit from both parents investments

00:05:42.620 a side note is one interesting outcome of this psycho biological dynamic is men's ability to

00:05:48.500 spot their own children in a crowd of other children more quickly and with greater accuracy

00:05:53.680 than even their mothers. Studies have shown that men have the ability to quickly and accurately

00:05:58.800 identify their own children in a room full of kids dressed in uniforms than the mothers of

00:06:03.780 the child. Again, this stresses the subconscious importance of the genetic trade-off.

00:06:08.960 There are rudiments of human sexual selection and reproduction. There are many social, emotional,

00:06:14.380 psychological intricacies that are associated with these fundamentals, but they are underlying

00:06:21.880 motivations and considerations that subconsciously influence sexual selection.

00:06:27.580 Okay, so I'm going to skip to the part where he talks about the genetic material.

00:06:36.180 Oh, I actually know that this part's good too. He is a great writer. To counter this subconscious

00:06:41.300 dynamic to their own genetic advantage, women initiate social conventions and psychological

00:06:46.080 schemes to better facilitate their own breeding methodologies. This is why women always have the

00:06:51.500 prerogative to change her mind. And the most fickle of all behaviors become socially excusable while

00:07:02.400 men's behavior is constrained to a higher standard of responsibility to do the right thing, which is

00:07:07.400 invariably to the advantage of a woman's reproductive scheme. This is why men who are players and

00:07:12.880 fathers who abandon mothers to pursue their innate reproductive method are villains and fathers who

00:07:17.260 selflessly sacrifice themselves financially, emotionally, and life decision-wise, often to

00:07:24.160 the benefit of the children they didn't father, are considered heroes for complying with women's

00:07:29.060 genetic imperatives. This is also the root motivation for female-specific social dynamics

00:07:34.540 such as LGBF rejections, women's propensity for victimhood, as they've learned that this

00:07:42.640 endangers the savior mental schemes for men's breeding schedules, Captain Sabaho, and even

00:07:48.680 marriage itself. So there's good dads versus good genes. And so this is the problem that women face,

00:07:56.040 right? The two greatest difficulties for women to overcome in their own methodology is that

00:08:02.480 they are only at a sexually viable peak for a very short window of time, generally their 20s.

00:08:10.460 And the fact that the qualities that make a good long-term partner, the good dad, and

00:08:15.700 the qualities that make for good breeding stock, good genes, only rarely manifest themselves

00:08:21.500 in the same male.

00:08:23.500 Provisioning and security potential are fantastic motivators for pairing with a good dad, but

00:08:28.920 the same characteristics that make him such are generally a disadvantage when compared

00:08:35.260 with the man who better exemplifies genetic, physical attraction, and the risk-taking qualities

00:08:41.840 that would imbue her child with a better capacity to adapt to its environment, i.e. stronger,

00:08:48.700 faster, more attractive than others to ensure the passing of her own genetic material to future

00:08:53.600 generations. This is the jerk versus nice guy paradox writ large on an evolutionary scale.

00:09:00.520 Men and women innately, though unconsciously, understand this dynamic. So in order for

00:09:05.220 women to have the best that the good dad has to offer while taking advantage of the best that the

00:09:10.720 good genes man has, she must invent and constantly modify social conventions to keep that advantage

00:09:16.880 in her biological favor. This paradox then necessitates that women and by default men

00:09:24.560 must subscribe to short-term and long-term schedules of mating. Short-term schedules

00:09:29.480 facilitate breeding with the good genes male, while long-term breeding is reserved for the

00:09:34.420 good dad male. This convention and the psychosocial schemes that accompany it are precisely why women

00:09:41.680 will marry the nice guy, stable, loyal doctor, and still F the pool boy or the cute surfer she

00:09:47.480 met on spring break. In our genetic past, a male with good genes implied an ability to be a good

00:09:52.460 provider. But modern convention has throttled this. So new social and mental schemes had to

00:09:59.580 be developed for women. For this dynamic and the practicality of enjoying the best of both

00:10:07.080 genetic worlds, women find it necessary to cheat. This cheating can be done proactively or reactively.

00:10:14.460 In a reactive model, a woman who is already paired with her long-term partner chooses

00:10:18.340 to engage in extramarital or extra pairing sexual intercourse with a short-term partner,

00:10:23.980 the cheating wife or girlfriend. That's not to say the short-term opportunity can't develop

00:10:28.380 into a second long-term mate, but the action of infidelity itself is a method for securing better

00:10:34.280 genetic stock than the committed provider male is capable of supplying. Proactive cheating is

00:10:41.180 the single mommy dilemma. This form of cheating relies on the woman breeding with a good genes

00:10:46.160 male, bearing his children, and then abandoning him or having him abandon her in order to find

00:10:51.960 a good dad to provide for her and the children of the good genes partner to ensure the security.

00:10:57.240 I want to stress again that most women do not have some consciously constructed and recognized

00:11:02.820 master plan to enact the cycle and deliberately trap men into it. Rather, the motivations for

00:11:07.860 this behavior and the accompanying social rationales invented to justify it are unconscious

00:11:13.580 in the process. For the most part, women are unaware of this dynamic but nonetheless are

00:11:19.980 subject to its influence. For a female of any species to facilitate methodology for breeding

00:11:27.020 with the genetic partner she's able to attract and to ensure her own offspring's survival with

00:11:32.320 the best provisioning partner, this is an evolutionary jackpot. On some level, men innately

00:11:39.060 sense something is wrong with the situation, though they may not be able to place why they

00:11:44.420 feel it or miss, or they may misunderstand it and the confusions of women's justifications for it,

00:11:49.620 or they become frustrated by social pressures to do the right thing and are shamed into martyrdom.

00:11:54.360 to a feigned responsibility to these conventions. Nevertheless, some see it well enough to steer

00:12:02.960 clear of single mothers, either by prior experience or by observing other male cuckolds

00:12:07.960 saddled with the responsibility of raising and providing for another man's successful

00:12:12.700 reproduction efforts with this woman. Men often fall into the, okay, men often fall into the role

00:12:21.720 of proactive or reactive cuckold. He will never enjoy the same benefits as his short-term partner's

00:12:28.100 mates. Wait, he will never, he will never enjoy the same benefits as his mate's short-term partner

00:12:34.560 to the same degree in the way of sexual desire or the immediacy of it, while at the same time

00:12:40.220 enduring the social pressures of having to provide for this good gene's father's progeny. It could

00:12:46.500 be argued that he may contribute minimally to welfare, but on some level, whether it's emotional,

00:12:51.520 physical financial or educational he will contribute some effort for another man's

00:12:57.680 genetic stock in exchange for a limited form of sexuality and intimacy from the mother

00:13:03.820 to some degree he is sharing parental investment that should be borne by the short-term partner

00:13:08.380 if nothing else he contributes the time and effort to her that he could be better invested

00:13:12.640 into finding a sexual partner where he could pursue his own genetic imperative needless to

00:13:18.800 say there is no shortage of men sexually deprived enough to see past the long-term disadvantage

00:13:23.680 and not only rewarding but reinforcing a single mother's bad decisions with regard to her breeding

00:13:29.080 selections and schedules in exchange for short-term gratification. Furthermore, by reinforcing her

00:13:34.700 behavior, he reinforces the social convention for men and for women. It's important to bear in mind

00:13:41.460 that in this age, women are ultimately solely responsible for the men they choose to mate with

00:13:45.860 and giving birth to their children. Men do responsibility for their actions, no doubt,

00:13:50.500 but it's ultimately the decision of female and her judgment that decides the children's fate.

00:13:58.080 Okay, let me read the other part.

00:14:06.300 There's one more. How are you doing, guys? How are you doing? Like the video on your way in.

00:14:12.120 thank you for being here tonight

00:14:14.940 okay this one

00:14:23.700 all right i want to read these articles because i do think they're relevant to the topic today

00:14:33.700 and then we will get into the show okay if you follow me on twitter and are a semi-regular

00:14:41.280 viewer of my show, Access Vegas, you've likely seen me be critical of what's known as the mate

00:14:46.400 switching hypothesis. This hypothesis has pro-offered as an alternative or a counter to the prevailing

00:14:52.840 hypothesis known as the dual mating strategy. Mate switching theory was popularized by the

00:14:58.300 godfather of evolutionary psychology, Dr. David Buss, in 2017. The theory made its way into his

00:15:04.540 2021 book men behaving badly which in my opinion was an effortless an effort in apologetics for

00:15:11.200 conventional masculinity this book's release conspicuously coincided with Dr. Buss's

00:15:16.840 pre-selling his now defunct the first date course in 2020 okay blah blah

00:15:21.620 I think I read most of the part I'm going to read this part tomorrow

00:15:32.640 So, okay. Welcome to the show. Like the video. So today we are talking about do modern women

00:15:49.300 have to have hoe phases to win? Now, before we get into the show, I need to clarify

00:16:01.240 what winning is for women. Winning, this is not what I wish it to be. This is not what I hope

00:16:10.720 winning to be. But when we look at what women want, what women respond to, women want the

00:16:19.040 best of both worlds, like it said in Rolo's article. We want alpha fucks, beta bucks into

00:16:28.060 a one guy. And occasionally, and if women have to pick, we know in their heart of hearts, women

00:16:35.700 want to pick alpha fucks. Now, how do you know this? A lot of people, they say, Pearl, you're a

00:16:42.220 doomer. Pearl, that can't be true. Pearl, Pearl, Pearl, you're so evil. Well, I simply look at what

00:16:48.340 women respond to. I don't see women throwing themselves at accountants. I really don't.

00:16:54.960 I see women throwing themselves at celebrities, entertainers, boxers, basketball players,

00:17:01.700 streamers. I do not see women going to their local engineering station and saying,

00:17:08.480 be with me, right? I don't, I would, I would love to say that happens, but it's not really

00:17:16.120 something I see. So let's look at some movie examples of this. We're going to watch some

00:17:23.060 romantic. I hope we can watch this and not get copyright because, I mean, this is kind

00:17:34.700 of playing with fire today, but I'm going to do it anyway. All right.

00:17:53.060 i'm actually gonna pull the music okay but this is

00:18:19.380 let me cut this one we we got that guy right we got the here's an here's a

00:18:26.420 this one i think isn't as the copyright that's got music

00:18:31.260 an example of a woman winning girl world this is the average woman dating

00:18:43.060 oh here you go just you know a bajillionaire rich guy in a suit with his own office

00:18:52.660 who looks like a male model it's kevin and then you know

00:18:57.700 does some bdsm to her this is 50 gray if you guys didn't know

00:19:04.900 christian gray i'm anastasia and remember these are some of the most popular female

00:19:12.340 movies at all of all time so i want you guys to look for patterns when we're seeing what is winning

00:19:20.100 what is winning to women okay um miss cavanaugh has the flu so she asked me to fill it i see

00:19:31.220 so you're studying journalism as well no english lit um kate's my roommate as i said i only have

00:19:39.700 I have 10 minutes.

00:19:40.520 Please, have a seat, Mr.

00:20:08.560 Thank you.

00:20:09.700 ready

00:20:14.620 whenever you are

00:20:17.080 okay

00:20:18.120 so this is for the special

00:20:21.340 graduation issue of the student newspaper

00:20:23.280 yes I'm giving the commencement address

00:20:25.380 at this year's ceremony

00:20:26.300 you are

00:20:27.300 I mean um

00:20:30.800 I know

00:20:33.460 you are

00:20:37.760 okay

00:20:38.400 okay

00:20:39.700 All right, so we got that's the next love interest. Let me pull up the next one. Then we got Twilight.

00:20:49.500 I mean, this is a guy that could kill her and then chooses to not. You know what I mean?

00:20:54.360 i just looked up love scene you know there he is that it's so romantic this other chad

00:21:14.760 and now look at he made her a vampire too

00:21:26.660 she became a vampire for love okay remember these are the love stories women are watching

00:21:36.980 it's not an engineer it's not an accountant i'm sorry to you engineers and accountants out there

00:21:44.480 you really do keep society running but i gotta i gotta really put into context how messed up we are

00:21:52.240 as people like she could have because whenever men talk about women winning it's always monetarily and

00:21:58.320 women just don't care about money something of a phoenix from the ashes

00:22:04.000 all right i changed my mind now here's rosen jack

00:22:08.080 i'm gonna turn the sound off oh look at oh how romantic

00:22:16.960 why aren't actors this hot anymore i gotta watch zendaya on screen when i used to see

00:22:27.520 these two like geez they are so attractive like they both look like they are models basically

00:22:38.080 look at that you know she's going on the edge of a ship some guy tries to save her

00:22:46.180 yeah you like older men in the movies okay well we each have preferences

00:22:54.500 okay to reiterate this point even further

00:23:03.460 i am going to show you guys how much women hate beta bus now again

00:23:11.160 this is

00:23:15.580 one of the most popular romantic films of all time

00:23:20.860 of all time for women so if you guys didn't know rose or not rose um ally in this movie

00:23:30.680 I think, is this the same girl? I think it is. Maybe not. No. Allie in this movie,

00:23:37.580 she's engaged in the notebook, right? She is engaged to a rich guy. He's hot too,

00:23:44.620 to be honest. They're both hot. But essentially she's with him for the money and she misses her

00:23:49.560 high school boyfriend who she was with for love. And her mother tried to keep her and her high

00:23:55.700 school boyfriend apart because he wasn't he was kind of broke right and now the mother in this

00:24:01.360 scene is telling the daughter about her love she married for money and status and her love that she

00:24:09.200 passed on tell me about the letters mother is it true yes you watch me cry myself to sleep for

00:24:20.740 months and months and you never said anything how could you do that i'm sorry you're sorry yes i

00:24:28.660 am sorry because of you my entire life okay yes i stole your letters it was wrong but stop being

00:24:34.020 dramatic and at least take some of the responsibility you came down here you knew

00:24:41.220 what you were doing you knew this would happen oh so now i'm a tramp you're unbelievable unbelievable

00:24:50.740 Go and get some clothes on.

00:24:55.800 Let's take a drive.

00:24:57.360 Let's take a drive? Why would I want to go anywhere with you?

00:25:00.660 Because I might know you a little better than you think.

00:25:04.880 And I don't want you waking up one morning thinking that if you'd known everything, you might have done something different.

00:25:20.740 what are we doing here mama

00:25:25.540 do you see that man there

00:25:30.140 remember in all these popular female flicks the mothers or there's old women telling these stories

00:25:39.920 about their first loves so there's this idea that women of the past were better and i'm just really

00:25:46.300 tired of hearing about it. Women of the past did the same BS. They just didn't really have

00:25:53.480 the opportunity to leave. And a lot of them still cheated. You know, women have always

00:25:59.720 been women doesn't look like it now but 25 years ago oh my goodness she was really something

00:26:13.800 we were out of our minds in love let me tell you

00:26:21.560 wow naturally your grandfather was furious so he decided to run away

00:26:29.720 we didn't even make the next town before the police picked us up

00:26:34.280 but that was then

00:26:38.840 you know sometimes when i'm in the area just stop here and i'll watch him okay so this woman

00:26:49.260 she's married and she says sometimes i'm in the area and i still watch this guy

00:26:56.940 facebook and not being able to have access to people as ruined marriages used to break up

00:27:05.760 with someone and never see him again i agree i agree and this woman still thinking about that

00:27:14.020 x but here's the thing women have pressures right they got to think about what their family thinks

00:27:19.680 they got nowadays you got to appease the group chat the friend group

00:27:23.960 um so women compromise on attraction for someone that'll fit into their circles and pay for their

00:27:36.540 lifestyle and a lot of the guys get cucked because it's not just the cuckoldry like with the kid

00:27:45.440 you also don't get the hot sex from the women all women have hot sex to give and if she's not

00:27:51.440 giving it to you. I got bad news for you, fellas. I got bad news for you. So I'm actually arguing

00:28:00.580 that hoe phases benefit women's sexual imperative. They really do. There's a reason women are

00:28:08.360 fighting for hoe phases. Women get genetic material or the excitement of alphas and then

00:28:15.960 the betas can pay for it. Women don't want to be with betas, right? Women have no inclination. We

00:28:22.340 do not want to be with beta male men. We don't. We don't. You might not even actually be beta,

00:28:28.140 but if she views you that way, you're cooked, right? So hoe phases do benefit women's imperatives

00:28:35.460 because women can get the genetic material or the hot sex with the guys they want and then

00:28:43.520 go to the betas that they would have had anyway later. Now I'm not, I'm not saying that this is

00:28:51.180 a good thing, right? I am not saying this is moral. But I do, I would say arguably it does

00:29:00.200 benefit women's sexual imperative. She's crying. Remember women

00:29:13.300 love this movie if your girl watches this movie i got bad news for you

00:29:26.020 i want you to know that i love your father

00:29:30.340 no god damn it this is important you need to hear it i do he is a wonderful man

00:29:36.900 he is good to me and i don't deserve it i love him ellie i do i love you

00:29:43.300 yeah now she's crying

00:29:45.820 um there's another one

00:29:50.740 now this is the so she's trying to pick

00:29:55.600 money or love money or love i love the high school boyfriend

00:29:59.680 but i'm engaged to this other hot guy right

00:30:04.360 who he i don't know i actually thought the fiance was better looking

00:30:10.140 They were both fine. I won't lie to you. But how do I put this?

00:30:20.000 Now she just banged the hot guy for like a weekend and now she wants to go back to her

00:30:24.420 husband. One in the chat if you've been the hot guy or the husband. And this is when I interview

00:30:30.760 men about their numbers of like what percent of women want relationships. It always goes for the

00:30:38.000 most part one of two ways it's like they can't get the women to stick around they sleep with

00:30:42.460 or all the women want to date them oh wait share this tab instead

00:30:46.960 i see you got my letters

00:30:54.240 finally

00:30:59.040 what are you going to do Al

00:31:08.380 I don't know

00:31:14.100 we're back to that

00:31:23.040 are we back there

00:31:29.040 what about the past couple of days they happen you know i know that they happen and they were

00:31:34.160 wonderful but they were also very irresponsible remember women love this scene with this is

00:31:41.520 women's favorite scene and i'm going to show you why i have a fiance waiting for me at a hotel

00:31:46.580 who's going to be crushed so you make love to me and then you go back to your husband

00:31:50.900 was that your plan was that a test that i didn't pass i made a promise to a man he gave me a ring

00:31:57.320 and I gave him my word.

00:31:58.220 And your word is shot to hell now, don't you think?

00:32:00.260 I don't know.

00:32:00.860 I'll find out when I talk to him.

00:32:02.120 This is not about keeping your promise,

00:32:03.780 and it's not about following your heart.

00:32:07.480 It's about security.

00:32:08.940 What is that supposed to mean?

00:32:10.320 Money!

00:32:10.940 What are you talking about?

00:32:11.840 He's got a lot of money.

00:32:13.080 Now I hate you.

00:32:14.080 You slow bastard.

00:32:15.180 If you leave here, I hate you.

00:32:16.720 What if money would be paying attention

00:32:18.320 to anything that's been happening?

00:32:19.400 I guess not.

00:32:20.060 I think I must have misread all of those signals.

00:32:21.740 I guess you did.

00:32:25.720 You're bored!

00:32:27.680 You're bored and you know it.

00:32:28.800 You wouldn't be here if there wasn't something missing.

00:32:31.780 Arrogant son of a bitch.

00:32:34.980 Would you just stay with me?

00:32:36.840 Stay with you?

00:32:38.060 What for?

00:32:38.800 Look at us.

00:32:39.240 We're already fighting.

00:32:39.980 Well, that's what we do.

00:32:41.740 We fight.

00:32:43.540 You tell me when I'm being an arrogant son of a bitch,

00:32:45.560 and I tell you when you're being a pain in the ass,

00:32:47.680 which you are 99% of the time.

00:32:50.960 I'm not afraid to hurt your feelings.

00:32:53.560 They have like a two-second rebound rate,

00:32:55.400 and you're back doing the next pain in the ass thing.

00:32:57.320 so what so it's not gonna be easy it's gonna be really hard

00:33:01.840 and we're gonna have to work at this every day but i want to do that because i want you

00:33:06.180 i want all of you forever you and me every day will you do something for me

00:33:12.240 please you just picture your life for me

00:33:18.500 30 years from now 40 years from now what's it look like if it's with that guy go go i lost

00:33:27.300 you once i think i could do it again if i thought it's what you really wanted but don't you take the

00:33:33.300 easy way out what easy way there is no easy way no matter what i do somebody gets hurt would you

00:33:39.220 stop thinking about what everyone wants stop thinking about what i want what he wants what

00:33:44.020 your parents want what do you want it's not what do you want it's not that simple what do you want

00:33:52.260 It's not that simple.

00:33:56.200 Okay.

00:33:59.540 There's a reason women relate to this stuff.

00:34:03.240 Winning in girl world is marrying a guy for love and money.

00:34:09.880 That's the number one draft pick.

00:34:12.860 Second is love.

00:34:14.360 Third is money.

00:34:18.840 That's girl world winning.

00:34:20.440 I don't make the rules.

00:34:21.920 i'm just reporting the news and we got to ask ourselves the guys that have a lot of choice and

00:34:28.000 have both are they you know waiting waiting 10 dates to bang a chick usually you know what i mean are they

00:34:51.920 oh sorry this is the wrong one oof damn it what do you want

00:35:00.320 I have to go

00:35:04.640 you know and a lot of women have this you know it's the Katy Perry song he was the one that

00:35:20.020 got away the one that wrecked my heart i should have never let him go i should have begged him

00:35:26.820 to stay i mean you know um all right let's see the next one oh this is when she makes waste

00:35:34.660 in the book and again i'm not talking about morality but strategically

00:35:42.660 i would say hofaises benefit women in the story which one did you choose

00:35:50.020 okay oh my god this this is the it's like this guy is another chad right and

00:36:04.320 she she says marrying him is for money but that's important that's an important distinction right

00:36:11.700 Because alpha is a mindset, it is not looks.

00:36:20.380 There are men that look really good that are blue-pilled.

00:36:23.340 The way I see it, I got three choices.

00:36:26.480 One, I can shoot them.

00:36:29.300 Two, I can kick the crap out of them.

00:36:32.140 Or three, I leave you.

00:36:41.700 But all of that's no good.

00:36:46.040 You see, because none of those options give me you.

00:36:54.720 And in spite of everything, I love you.

00:37:01.820 I love you, too.

00:37:04.800 I meant what I said when I gave you that ring.

00:37:07.460 I did, too.

00:37:08.800 I did, too.

00:37:09.660 It's just that when I'm with Noah

00:37:12.240 I feel like one person

00:37:13.600 And when I'm with you

00:37:14.460 I feel like someone totally different

00:37:16.300 Yeah, when she's with Noah

00:37:18.340 She feels like the whore she is

00:37:20.240 And when she's with him

00:37:23.460 She feels like a good person with status

00:37:26.280 Look

00:37:29.220 It's normal not to forget your first love

00:37:40.320 I love you, Ellen.

00:37:41.420 Why do they love her?

00:37:42.400 She's not a good person.

00:37:43.460 Because she's hot.

00:37:44.560 Yep.

00:37:46.520 But I want you for myself.

00:37:49.580 I don't want to have to convince my fiancé that she should be with me.

00:37:55.780 You don't have to.

00:37:58.320 They already know I should be with you.

00:38:03.080 And they live happily ever after.

00:38:06.040 Who?

00:38:07.560 Who did?

00:38:09.660 oh yes

00:38:17.700 of course

00:38:21.280 she came back and chose love female movie female

00:38:36.780 i know you guys are saying this is stupid well women are not guided by logic you guys are

00:38:49.560 logical we're emotional we're emotional we're loyal to our feelings

00:39:06.780 it was us it was us oh my sweetheart

00:39:27.180 it so much okay yeah seppy all right so are we clear on what winning is to women

00:39:37.600 who does she choose in the real world the money obviously that's why the women love these movies

00:39:47.060 all right so we all know when women are young women are throwing it back

00:39:54.380 okay we just have a tendency to go whore as hard as we can now this doesn't mean all women will do

00:40:02.260 this some women do it more some women do it less but with the social conventions we have in place

00:40:08.360 I mean there's not a lot of reason to not whore what corn stars are marrying Aryan chads

00:40:15.020 and remember it's it's about the genetic material

00:40:20.860 okay not about being a successful well-rounded guy it's about the genetic material for women

00:40:30.700 that's winning first

00:40:32.900 now charlie kirk and i i think i'm gonna get flamed for this stream but i gotta be honest with this

00:40:43.900 And he had a tweet that was, quote, tweeting this, okay?

00:40:58.000 If you could give a single girl some dating advice, what would you say to her?

00:41:01.920 How old?

00:41:03.020 Let's say she's, like, 21.

00:41:06.160 Oh, 21.

00:41:09.320 Just bang them all.

00:41:10.600 bang them all because men are so immature that you're not gonna you're not gonna lock anyone

00:41:18.760 down you don't don't even start thinking yet about the husband stuff but i will say

00:41:24.680 bang dudes quietly don't tell everybody shut the about it just go do your business

00:41:31.780 bang girls bang guys bang dogs trans whatever you want but keep an eye out for the good ones

00:41:39.600 in your college uh-huh you know i'm saying like keep the solid dudes in your back pocket like

00:41:44.720 befriend them but don't come or date them or nothing until you're kind of like older and

00:41:50.480 you're ready to like settle down with a boy yeah and then call that that guy up like that

00:41:55.600 when you had your eyes on and then be like what's up dude okay so charlie kirk had this tweet and it

00:42:04.080 said, this advice will lead to a life of misery and sorrow. And on its head, I actually thought

00:42:10.800 that he was right. You know, my first, my first inclination, I think, when I was getting into this

00:42:16.300 stuff was that waiting till marriage is the best strategy for women that gets them what they want.

00:42:24.180 And a whole phase is only leads to destruction.

00:42:27.140 however

00:42:30.460 my parents

00:42:33.560 they've been married 30 years

00:42:35.180 they've been married a while

00:42:36.480 and to be honest

00:42:41.500 when I was 22

00:42:43.260 I found out they had an unplanned

00:42:45.500 pregnancy

00:42:46.180 when they were

00:42:49.380 teenagers

00:42:49.980 and that kid, I had another brother

00:42:52.680 that was given up for adoption, I had no idea

00:42:55.100 and i realized in that moment that my whole life i'd been taught chastity was the best way to get

00:43:06.880 what you wanted but my mom had a 30-year marriage that she got the starting point was getting

00:43:13.120 pregnant and i told my sister i said i i said why didn't you guys just tell us to go download tinder

00:43:23.360 and just get pregnant by, you know, a guy that seemed ambitious and just let him hit it raw.

00:43:31.900 Now, I'm not saying that's the moral thing to do.

00:43:34.920 I'm not saying that's the right thing to do.

00:43:36.800 But I got to be honest, I'm like, in this case, it worked, didn't it?

00:43:43.580 And the more I realized how much of these conservative Christians,

00:43:49.140 they never tell the real story of their dating.

00:43:53.360 they never are really honest about it.

00:44:00.220 They only tell the parts of the story that support what they want,

00:44:05.620 you know, they want their religion to be true.

00:44:08.340 When in reality, a lot of times hoe phases get women husbands.

00:44:19.220 Or single motherhood and then you get a bailout guy after.

00:44:23.360 Now, again, this isn't what I wish to be true, but, you know, if you guys know anything about

00:44:33.080 my background, I have nine siblings, including the one that was given up.

00:44:39.300 And my parents owned a pretty big software company.

00:44:42.100 I'd say a lot of people would say they won.

00:44:47.040 I would say my mom won.

00:44:49.140 I mean, my dad's awesome.

00:44:50.300 him. And I just thought to myself, and Charlie Kirk, I just, when I saw this tweet of his,

00:45:00.200 and I'm going to bring it back up, I felt like it was a little bit dishonest. I like Charlie,

00:45:06.680 if you're watching this, this isn't personal, but I shouldn't know about your wife and kids.

00:45:13.800 you put this all on the internet, the same way the internet, they know who my ex-boyfriend is,

00:45:21.100 they know who I'm dating currently, and really, that was my own fault, so I don't really, you know,

00:45:31.140 I don't really blame people. This is, I have to say this, in the name of honesty, okay, in the name

00:45:40.280 of, I want the, I want us to just be open here. So Charlie Kirk, he got married. What

00:45:55.500 year did Charlie Kirk get married? Let's, Charlie Kirk, what year? He got married in

00:46:10.280 Okay, three years ago, and his wife was 32.

00:46:15.980 Okay, Charlie, you have to, we have to be honest here.

00:46:21.680 I think what I found online, they were together for three years.

00:46:26.480 You cannot expect me to believe that she did not throw it back at all from ages like 16 to 29.

00:46:34.900 on top of that

00:46:39.900 on top of that

00:46:45.220 I found out she strutted along

00:46:49.820 half naked in pageants

00:46:51.680 like in literal tiny bikinis

00:46:53.540 traveled the world for pageants

00:46:57.540 and went to Arizona State University

00:47:00.440 and I responded

00:47:03.280 Charlie your wife went to Arizona State University

00:47:06.700 what were you the impression she was doing there

00:47:10.680 and all the simps in the chat

00:47:14.800 are like studying I'm like at Arizona State

00:47:18.080 so I really would just

00:47:28.740 like conservatives to be more honest about what worked I mean

00:47:32.640 if Erica came out and was like look I did throw it back a bit um I did kind of hoe around and um

00:47:40.040 I still landed a multi-bajillionaire husband because I looked really hot yeah I stayed in

00:47:47.380 shape I got into the gym routine and I was already hot I stayed looking hot and I found a guy that

00:47:54.700 didn't have that much sexual experience I knew I was the hottest girl he ever dated so I locked in

00:48:02.640 That would be a little bit more honest, right?

00:48:08.080 But in this case, it seems like his wife did exactly that, and it worked.

00:48:22.580 Yeah, let me find some of this.

00:48:26.940 I don't want to play that one.

00:48:30.660 Yeah.

00:48:32.640 Okay, and you know, let me find some of these, here we go, share this tab, you know, and

00:48:54.240 she's a hottie, you know what I mean, she is hot, but I'm like, your trad wife, you

00:49:00.500 know what I mean? It's just, it doesn't scream. I didn't have a hoe face. That is just not what

00:49:08.040 it screams to me. And I don't really care if she did, you know, most women do something, but

00:49:17.780 I just can't imagine when you're going out like this to the bar that you didn't have at least

00:49:25.240 one one night stand or one hookup and you're at Arizona state. I think that's a fair assessment.

00:49:32.200 So I need to define a hoe phase. Okay. Because a lot of people, a lot of people will say Pearl,

00:49:40.420 like what exactly is a hoe phase? Okay. Casual sex. I'm going to give you

00:49:49.720 sex with someone who is not, I'm going to say leaving a boyfriend and not marrying him,

00:50:00.460 ho-fays. Unplanned pregnancy, a divorce, a kid by another guy. I'll give you like three bodies.

00:50:09.060 But if you had a kid with any of those bodies, ho-fays, I'm going to assume that you've done

00:50:16.460 something if you've traveled a lot lived in a major city went to a major college and didn't marry by

00:50:21.580 like 21. um and here's a couple reels of women talking about their whole phases and also now

00:50:31.180 this girl i think is engaged too so here oh wait hold on i keep forgetting to do this

00:50:46.460 i'll speak for myself and i know exactly why i'm single because i've never dated a guy

00:50:55.000 my god would have approved for me i've only dated really wonderful guys but never somebody who's

00:51:01.620 further along in their faith than i am yeah and i know without a shadow of a doubt that what god

00:51:06.900 has the person god has for me is like so far along in their faith than i am and i have such a desire

00:51:13.260 looking true okay so again now she's religious at 32 and um none of the guys that she dated

00:51:22.220 were very religious in the past we all know what that means

00:51:35.260 oh wait hold on

00:51:36.140 three

00:51:39.900 nah um okay yeah mine's i think it's like

00:51:46.220 13 i would say 13 she's like 22 i would guess

00:51:53.040 i think yeah 13 yeah per you think

00:52:06.140 so so mine is actually one yeah just one just now the challenge you get with women like this

00:52:16.640 is they tend to have their hoe phases later now i'm going to show you this woman

00:52:23.120 talking about our trad wife is alive because she left her like family of four

00:52:28.280 just never ends ladies if you are dating a man and your ultimate dream is to be a homemaker

00:52:36.780 and you have expressed this to that man and that man says living off of one income is one

00:52:44.460 impossible two outdated and that is more realistic to live off the 50 50 meaning you both split the

00:52:52.980 bills and the responsibilities around the house just know that is that man's way of telling you

00:52:59.460 he does not want to be a provider he does not have what it takes to do what is needed to provide for

00:53:06.980 you and your family you shouldn't have to convince a man men out there that make this lifestyle

00:53:13.700 realistic and they do what needs to be done they might work more than one job a masculine provider

00:53:20.840 man will always do what he needs to do to protect and provide for his family i'm jenny gage and this

00:53:27.400 is life take two hey everybody thanks for watching i know there's a lot of great stuff out there on

00:53:32.840 youtube and i always appreciate you stopping on one of my videos my name is jenny and i am former

00:53:38.520 maga former trump obsessed former christian nationalist former white supremacist former

00:53:45.800 trad wife of 24 years and before those 24 years of pad by five my entire childhood was a trad wife

00:53:51.960 immersion program so honestly i spent 44 years in the trad world and then seven years ago i lost my

00:54:00.440 faith in the mormon church walked out that one day two weeks later that 24 year marriage ended

00:54:05.160 abruptly and my 24 year nightmare came to an end i'm now a woke atheist liberal feminist activist

00:54:15.800 and here we are so so remember this was a spokesperson for maga and now she's a wokey

00:54:25.400 women it's like our phases it's always when it's convenient

00:54:30.440 yeah also go to the audacitynetwork.com and sign up um if you want to support the show

00:54:38.280 So I would say that ho faces benefit women, not in a happy way, but because women then get to

00:54:50.680 have both. She now gets to bang the alpha fucks guy. She gets to rob her ex-husband. And now,

00:55:00.600 yeah. She gets alpha fucks and beta bucks. I don't say this in a happy way. The other issue

00:55:11.600 you get is I don't think most men that women would consider winning to get are going to wait

00:55:18.820 for sex. The women I saw in school that got the most attractive guys, I really did not see them

00:55:29.240 holding out if i'm being honest the virgin women they did get married but it was just usually like

00:55:36.460 usually in church church um dynamics it would kind of go the the there would be like a stacy

00:55:46.100 and a chad and they would go off with like the maybe two or three eligible guys in the church

00:55:51.480 they'd get married young and then um the rest of them i mean i've you have to understand i was in

00:55:58.540 this cult-like church for a little bit. And there was just so many single women there. And I saw

00:56:04.680 these women that would be celibate for years. And I'm like, you can't raise the price at like 30.

00:56:10.920 It's time to give a discount. You got to give like a eight month free trial at that age.

00:56:17.800 You know, anyways, I'm going to put the link in the chat and then we can,

00:56:25.000 i'm gonna pin it oh wait hold on can i pin this

00:56:34.000 i'm gonna send it to a couple people on twitter too and we can have a discussion

00:56:41.880 but it seems like even even in the case of charlie kirk it just seems like

00:56:48.500 there wasn't really a consequence for the hoe phase

00:56:52.380 and it seems like they get both. That's true. The higher the body count, the more their

00:57:10.140 personality changes. You could argue that. All right, let me see. And I could be wrong, right?

00:57:22.240 When I want you guys to call in, what I would really like is what have you seen? And what I

00:57:28.420 personally have seen is the women that are super prudes, they do not win. They don't.

00:57:35.200 it could be maybe they're not hot enough. I think it's most of the prudes just are not hot enough

00:57:41.160 to be offering that price. Like you can't be a prude in a mid, a hot chick. Yeah. You could,

00:57:48.180 you could pull that. But if you're mad, yeah, nope. Cooked, cooked, but, um, here we go.

00:57:58.440 and yeah and that's kind of what i would see in the church is like

00:58:04.140 there would be a chad and a stacy who would like

00:58:07.100 you know but it's it's kind of like cars right if you got a honda civic and you're saying you

00:58:14.760 got to commit to me for life in order to ride me that's a tough sell for a honda civic but

00:58:20.160 if it's a sports car they're like do you know what i might do it that's a great sports car

00:58:26.480 um what I found is the women that dated the most attractive guys they were just kind of chill

00:58:40.180 about sex like they wouldn't crash out if it if they didn't get the relationship they wanted

00:58:45.440 they would be chill um they didn't come off overly needy but they were still pretty cute

00:58:56.480 um what's with the suitcase i'm moving soon i'm moving

00:59:03.380 all right doug mpa hey how's it going good how are you i'm good so do you think modern women

00:59:19.160 have to have a hoe phase in order to win well we kind of talked about this earlier um if you're

00:59:26.060 a woman and you find yourself in a vicinity of guys who are either going to become something or

00:59:33.520 are something they're not going to wait so you have to sleep with these guys and sooner rather

00:59:38.000 than later so you you identify a guy who could be something or that lays identify a guy that

00:59:46.460 you would be with that has the characteristics you want and sleep with them as soon as you can

00:59:50.680 because these kind of guys are not waiting at all they're just not and then what do i always say

00:59:55.040 men are not going to audit a woman for relationship until sex has happened

00:59:59.460 first. So the sooner you get that over with, the better.

01:00:03.680 And then how many men do you think a woman has to sleep with on average?

01:00:09.380 Under, under that, under those conditions,

01:00:11.560 how many men do you think a woman would have to sleep with before she actually

01:00:15.420 finds a guy that'll take you seriously?

01:00:18.040 Depends how hot she is. She's pretty hot. Like two, three.

01:00:25.040 If she's mid and likable, I'd say five to eight.

01:00:30.480 If she's mid and unlikable, I'd say 10 to 20.

01:00:39.080 Yeah.

01:00:39.960 I mean, it just, uh, so it depends on, and, and it depends on, um, there are some women,

01:00:48.620 the woman in my school that dated the, they didn't get married to be fair, but there's

01:00:53.660 like i i think back to one of the schools i was at i gotta be more vague so people don't figure

01:00:59.700 out who i'm talking about but i'm gonna switch the teams around this girl dated the most attractive

01:01:04.880 guy on the baseball team and she wasn't really a prude but she wasn't like an all-out whore either

01:01:12.600 do you know what i mean like she would just sleep with guys she thought were cute

01:01:16.640 and if it didn't work out she'd say oh well and then move on like you know but the prudes

01:01:23.640 i just saw doug mpa i just saw so many christian women at that maybe they were lying i don't know

01:01:30.080 but they were so weird some of them that i think they were telling me somewhat the truth that i've

01:01:35.560 been celibate for years and i'm like you're like 30 it's time for your slut phase girl

01:01:42.880 because guys are not paying that price for a third like maybe a really dumb buyer like a buyer who

01:01:50.120 got duped but like guys are not going to pay premium prices for a used product they're just

01:01:57.180 not going to do it wait so these are all women that had had sex when they were younger but were

01:02:02.220 celibate and they're like come on i'll tell you i'll tell you the story so i joined this church

01:02:07.540 i for like because i was trying to figure out what religion i wanted to be i grew up catholic

01:02:12.080 so i joined this like protestant church because i just wanted to see if i liked it better

01:02:15.780 and they invited me on this like retreat um and I went on this retreat and it was the last thing

01:02:23.400 I went to from the church because all these women were like these single women that were really

01:02:29.080 awkward um and they a lot of them had been celibate for like three years or two years

01:02:38.160 this is a long time ago this was like years ago and I sat there and I'm like and it was because

01:02:44.100 the church was so controlling and who they dated they would say you have to date only people from

01:02:49.460 the church but the church was like all women you know what i mean like and there would be the the

01:02:55.920 waiting till marriage there was like but there was couples that did that um but it was usually the

01:03:02.720 ran through girl the virgin guy or the young women who like there would be like one chad and one

01:03:10.380 stacy that would get married that were like young you know yeah i saw that church dynamic with a lot

01:03:17.560 of west african churches you know nigerian cameroonian churches where the women are just

01:03:23.560 like the pastor literally controls the women like the women just sit there quiet and it's crazy

01:03:29.780 and then the pastor pretty much has to pick their husband and like any husband has to meet the

01:03:35.240 the church people that even get i saw that a lot when oh yeah that's so true that's so true

01:03:41.660 and don't get me wrong the women would sometimes find a guy to date them but

01:03:46.320 like or marry them but it was i mean the guy was obviously super feminine usually

01:03:52.980 okay pj i need you to mute it before i bring you up i'm gonna bring up

01:04:00.060 go ahead i was with this girl one time and we were together for three months you know and we started

01:04:07.020 sleeping together and stuff and she's like um what do you think about a woman who's having

01:04:13.180 sex with her partner but then wants to stop having sex to like regain her energy and stuff

01:04:18.940 i said what she's like yeah because some women they're in you know they're having sex with their

01:04:24.780 partner first off you know red flag is any woman that's his partner but yeah you know sometimes a

01:04:29.980 woman just wants to stop having sex to regain her energy and reset her i said look if i was with a

01:04:35.040 woman and we were sleeping together and she would like want to stop having sex that's not okay but

01:04:41.700 you try to justify the female energy and how you know sex takes from a woman's energy and she has

01:04:47.880 to reach yeah that didn't last long i mean i'd say it's perfectly fine i'll just start banging my ex

01:04:54.260 If I was the guy, you know what I mean? It's like, if you're not going to put out, I have

01:05:01.160 exes that will hoe. Yep, exactly. Okay. We're going to bring up Sean.

01:05:07.400 Hey guys, can you hear me? I can hear you. Awesome.

01:05:12.900 So what are your thoughts on the topic? Do women have to have a hoe phase in order to win?

01:05:17.760 or who, what did the women, what strategies did the women employ that you saw date? Actually,

01:05:24.200 it's a better way to ask that you saw dating the men that women would want around you.

01:05:30.720 Yeah, man. So I, I saw the women that I saw who got the guy that every other woman wanted,

01:05:38.060 they were very calculating and very specific. So they would tailor themselves to be the kind

01:05:43.980 girl that that guy wants to be with and they sort of sell him on this dream that they're not

01:05:48.700 a hoe but they're like selective but at the same time if they need to put out to keep this guy they

01:05:54.060 will right and to keep him happy so like they almost like metamorph to becoming the kind of

01:05:59.500 girlfriend and wife that that guy wants instead of like trying to have their cake and eat it too

01:06:05.020 which a lot of girls do these days which is they want to you know be who they are on their own terms

01:06:10.780 and expect expect a guy to give them everything that they want and accept them for who they are

01:06:16.460 the kind of girls who get the guy that they want know to change themselves to get that kind of guy

01:06:21.060 and the other girls are just too stupid to get along with that so like that's been my observation

01:06:25.840 is that the girls who really want to get the quote-unquote alphas or let's say the most

01:06:29.920 desirable men they'll change themselves to land that type of guy versus the other girls have too

01:06:35.240 much of an ego can you give me an example of someone you're thinking of that did that like

01:06:40.200 how they did it yeah i mean someone who i knew because i remember there was this consultant girl

01:06:45.700 who i was working with uh this was like back in shoot like 2016 and she was dating this really

01:06:51.620 good-looking chad like guy who was like he was doing his mba at yale and for whatever reason

01:06:56.800 they ended up breaking up and she's not gonna just go along for like the next quote-unquote

01:07:01.100 nice guy she's gonna look for a guy who's at least you know very attractive who has a lot of

01:07:05.280 money different things like that so she stays on top of her physical fitness to get herself like

01:07:10.040 in a size zero type dress making sure she looks really good she gets herself into the social

01:07:15.080 circles of very rich and like wealthy type men so her father is like a he owns like a yacht and

01:07:22.000 things like that so she is around those types of guys and positions herself like sort of networking

01:07:28.580 in those circles to be able to meet like a guy who's 10 years older than her who he's divorced

01:07:33.640 but he doesn't have any kids or anything like that but he's like a doctor and you know she

01:07:38.700 gluck glucked for like the next three and a half years to land that guy you know what i mean

01:07:44.220 you know and this guy's like six foot four he's a radiologist he's you know he has money bags

01:07:49.500 you know he has an amazing life where he travels which is what she likes to do she did everything

01:07:54.860 she had to do to land that type of guy so she got along with that program uh so i would say the

01:08:00.300 women who really want to land a guy like that really needs to understand like how do those

01:08:05.580 guys move what social circles are they in and they need to figure out how to blend into that

01:08:10.300 environment and and you know kiss his ass and be the type of girl that that guy wants and i think

01:08:15.740 that's the mistake that most women make which is in their minds they get to live their life however

01:08:20.380 they feel like it and eventually prince charming is supposed to come along i think that's how a

01:08:24.860 lot of them have been sold this dream versus the ones who really know how the game is played

01:08:29.660 you know they know to put themselves in a position to meet that type of guy

01:08:34.480 and become the woman that he wants on his terms yeah i agree that was great great answer um do

01:08:43.960 you have anything else you want to add to the topic yeah i mean uh to the question you know

01:08:47.960 do women have to have a hoe face to win to to be honest i think if they need to have a hoe face to

01:08:52.640 get it out of their system by all means just go ahead and do it i think all women hoe around it's

01:08:56.940 just the question of how much they hoe around and with what guys and i'd rather them just get it out

01:09:02.000 of their system so that when they do want to eventually settle down they're not always like

01:09:06.640 bitter at the guy who they settled with you know oh i wish you were like this guy i want them to

01:09:12.600 like get it out of their system to be with enough assholes that they were sort of don't want that

01:09:18.260 anymore and then want the kind of guy who they actually want to settle down with versus the ones

01:09:22.180 who didn't quite get it out of their system and then resent their husbands for the next 30 40

01:09:26.640 years and they have to keep it quiet too don't talk about it when you do it yeah let's say

01:09:32.560 anything about it on social media yeah so you know what that girl's advice is kind of what you're

01:09:36.860 saying yeah go ahead god yeah i was gonna say to be honest like most guys kind of know that girls

01:09:43.260 have a past as long as they're not running their mouth about it and always bringing up their exes

01:09:47.080 in front of them or you know you can see photos in their instagram of all their exes in the past

01:09:51.720 Like most girls who have half a brain know to delete all that stuff and

01:09:55.720 basically purge their history.

01:09:57.340 So it looks like even though people know she had ex-boyfriends,

01:10:00.180 like no one's like bringing it up.

01:10:02.520 No one,

01:10:03.060 there's no digital trail of that,

01:10:04.280 if that makes sense.

01:10:04.880 Like you won't go through Ivanka Trump's Instagram or her Facebook or,

01:10:09.100 you know,

01:10:09.260 Google image.

01:10:10.060 You won't find any of the guys she was hoeing around with before she got

01:10:13.120 married.

01:10:13.420 You know what I mean?

01:10:14.300 Yeah.

01:10:14.500 So I think the smart girls know to make sure that none of this stuff is

01:10:19.300 trackable except for,

01:10:20.460 you know,

01:10:20.560 only fans girl somehow get away with it like they're always going to land a guy even though

01:10:24.240 all their videos are on the internet for the next hundred years but uh i would say you know

01:10:28.560 smart women need to understand that their reputation really does matter uh yeah great

01:10:36.320 thanks for calling in sean you're great it's great great contribution as always thanks guys

01:10:42.720 all right thanks for calling in sean you're great it's great great country okay hey pj

01:11:00.400 okay i'm gonna break i'm gonna drop you till you figure out your audio

01:11:03.440 uh dasher hello hello how are you i'm good can you hear me i can hear you um so what do you think of

01:11:14.000 the topic um the women that you have seen one and winning is in girl world which is

01:11:23.680 the hot guys you know the popular guys that's winning in girl world the women that you've seen

01:11:30.000 either lock them down did they have to have a whole phase to win the more specific the example

01:11:35.920 of the woman you're thinking of the better well yeah no they don't have to they don't have to

01:11:44.800 have a whole face to win they can wait until marriage and they will get the the guy that they

01:11:51.360 one yeah good luck sorry yeah that was the only way to do that

01:12:00.240 sorry glenn hi um yeah well i want that guy's advice hold on where did he get that from

01:12:07.640 fortune cookie advice from you know marriage yeah good luck like what yeah that no i mean

01:12:16.700 i mean it sounds nice but that's almost that sounds just as good as like you know if you

01:12:24.500 build it they will come feel the dreams bullshit does not work yeah i mean no guys will do the

01:12:31.080 wait till marriage but it's just the dorky ones usually uh or guys yeah the guys that wait till

01:12:36.780 marriage have to wait till marriage they have no they have no other option they're not doing it

01:12:42.800 because they're virtuous come on okay i should say the majority of guys are not doing it because

01:12:47.520 they're virtuous there's like one or two like pastor guys in the churches that all the women

01:12:52.640 want that maybe like they marry the stacy that's what i've seen but it's like one or two the rest

01:12:57.920 take l's so like there's a there's a podcast group of guys called the iron disciples i've worked with

01:13:03.680 them uh before out of florida they're out of like sarasota florida um like they were on with rollo

01:13:11.760 me at one point um one of the guys at that group named mike uh he was 31 at the time or 30 and

01:13:20.160 still virgin but by choice like the dude was he has all chad like features chad you know looks

01:13:27.920 chad house you know he had owned good money on property like he just was not gonna settle for

01:13:35.600 some chick that didn't

01:13:37.740 align with his belief system

01:13:39.900 and I'm like that's

01:13:41.500 more power to you

01:13:43.260 I'd still smash all the hoes just

01:13:45.600 because you know like if I was

01:13:47.760 him but

01:13:48.300 he's the only guy that I know that's you know

01:13:51.460 that is capable of doing

01:13:53.640 it and not doing it

01:13:54.900 so I've met guys like that

01:13:57.920 they

01:13:59.100 they have that same kind of power

01:14:01.740 that your friend has they just don't

01:14:03.840 sleep with with western women

01:14:05.560 so they'll they'll save it all for a trip to columbia or costa rica get it all out in two

01:14:11.320 weeks and then just come back and just but they won't touch live in america and just won't touch

01:14:15.640 american weather they can have any american woman if they want but they just don't touch american

01:14:19.400 women yeah like well there's also beating cheeks beating cheeks like just going over to columbia

01:14:25.800 just to beat cheeks yeah um but so the question is like do modern women have to have a whole phase

01:14:33.400 to win um i don't think they have to i just think it's they have they have realized in order to be

01:14:41.880 seen by the guy right to be seen by the guy that they want to be seen to be noticed they have to

01:14:46.520 draw their attention so best way to draw their attention is to gluck lock and be really good at

01:14:55.640 it yeah right and so by doing that they they garner the attention and that's how they are

01:15:04.040 able to cash out yeah like even erica kirk i'm like that was very well played i mean she was

01:15:10.200 really smart she went from university of arizona being half naked to now you're lecturing me on

01:15:17.080 jesus yeah and she did it overnight she met charlie and she's like i am a woman of god

01:15:24.360 now i am she's like i am right now and i'm like you know what that would be an honest

01:15:29.320 like if you want to date a church guy um it's time to put on a flower dress and dress and say

01:15:34.600 you're a woman of god i mean look at knowledge she did it and she yeah i mean that would be a

01:15:41.160 good str like a good strategy but you know i was just thinking when i saw that clip of that woman

01:15:48.200 given advice that i was like that's exactly what your wife did and it worked i told my mother i

01:15:53.960 told my mother i'm like you got pregnant by dad like immediately you should have told me to download

01:15:59.080 fit tinder throw it back you know i'd have kids by now why'd you tell me to wait mom

01:16:06.920 i didn't work that didn't work for you

01:16:09.160 i was like i'm like wait it didn't work you you you so a lot of a lot of the things that we were

01:16:19.240 taught about had to deal with like the the influence of the purity culture at the time

01:16:23.720 in the 90s and 2000s and like the promise ring shit and all that stuff that was going on around

01:16:29.260 that time um and they just didn't teach sex properly i think i think they they shunned it

01:16:36.000 like nobody talked about it they just told you to stay away from it um guys are bad and you know

01:16:41.240 girls are sluts you know like just stay away from it and then you get like there's this article i'm

01:16:48.140 actually going to do a show about it is this guy he's 30 some odd you're 40 years old just finally

01:16:53.120 married and he doesn't even know what the fuck to do with the dick because he grew up in this

01:16:57.360 purity culture and he's been shamed about it his whole life he feels and he's like now he's like

01:17:02.040 married and his wife hates him you know thank thank you purity culture you know and it just

01:17:09.000 like you know what are these guys to do but then also like we we would i heard you guys saying

01:17:15.160 earlier like the girls if you do have a past just assume all girls do have a past but make sure it's

01:17:20.040 not on the internet don't talk about it you know and that's almost like what the trad chicks are

01:17:27.320 doing now and I just think that would be an honest strategy is

01:17:32.520 to whore it's not even whore around wait do you know what's

01:17:36.420 so crazy not our Charlie Kirk said that'll lead to a lot of

01:17:40.820 pain but you bought forms Nala and that worked like I'm not

01:17:45.620 trying to add in morality and what's the right thing to do

01:17:48.380 I'm I'm just trying to stick to strategically what works and

01:17:53.540 works is exactly what already they're doing they go ho out you know by the mid to late 20s

01:17:59.300 they find jesus okay they join the church and then the pastor marries them off to like the chads in

01:18:06.580 the church and then they're good yeah what what do you think um what religion should i convert

01:18:14.660 to this year what are you thinking um orthodox well good luck peace be with you

01:18:24.180 i'm gonna come on tomorrow in a flower dress okay lord um welcome to the show lord geotron

01:18:35.140 yeah lord you troll how are you where are you located out of i'm in i'm in america okay i

01:18:43.380 i meant with state oh i'm sorry i'm in virginia right now oh cool okay are you or the experience

01:18:53.240 you're speaking from is it like from living in virginia or like when you were young no no no i'm

01:18:58.080 not even from virginia okay i just worked so i'm gonna clarify los angeles oh cool okay so you might

01:19:05.760 have a good um insight then so when i say women winning this is in women world and in girl world

01:19:13.080 women winning is the girls that marry and can lock down get a kid off of and lock down or lock down

01:19:21.320 men um that are popular or hot it's pretty much it rich is great too if you can get all three

01:19:30.680 that's amazing but popular and hot is first i think you know if you watch the show you probably

01:19:34.820 know that so the women that you've seen win and do that did they have a whole face to employ that

01:19:42.460 strategy or did they have a different strategy did holding out work what did they do

01:19:48.460 no no uh before we get into that um i just want to say i'm i'm sorry to like change the subject

01:19:55.900 or change the channel but uh the 304 is not a phase you don't shake that that never goes away

01:20:02.780 that's a scourge you can't turn a hole into a housewife that's never gonna stop

01:20:07.740 there's no phase to that they do those people they do it yeah no well they get they get they

01:20:13.660 get they get married but the the aspect of being a that's why the divorce rate is so high

01:20:19.420 because there's so many of them running off cheating on their husbands being infantels and

01:20:23.820 things of that nature yeah but they still win in girl world because they can just rob the oh yeah

01:20:29.500 you said girl right right right my bad right it's it's wrong i'm not saying it's the right thing to

01:20:34.860 do but i'm saying like they still now they can just rob the ex-husband and then bang the yeah

01:20:41.180 go ahead right right you're right in that case um yeah maybe maybe oh boy that's a tough one miss

01:20:49.980 pearl um yeah maybe they are winning um hopefully uh something to turn around because at the end of

01:20:56.780 the day uh reality is going to catch up and uh girl world is going to be realized to be clown

01:21:03.740 world and uh clown world doesn't sustain anything you can't live off popcorn and cotton candy

01:21:08.260 and uh yeah it's going to shit it's going pretty bad

01:21:12.300 i'm telling you man society's crumbling and it's crumbling and these these ladies they're like

01:21:21.480 crabs in a bucket they're pulling everybody down with them pursuing their own it's not they're not

01:21:26.760 even becoming happy they always screaming i want to be happy i'm happy happy happy they're not even

01:21:32.080 ever reaching happiness they're never getting satisfied what they're doing is go ahead okay

01:21:37.500 the women that win though i want to stick to the topic so the women that i'm sorry that you've seen

01:21:43.240 win what strategy did they employ for me personally i've never seen a woman wait till marriage

01:21:50.340 and get the guy that women want.

01:21:52.860 I really have not seen it.

01:21:54.800 Oh, okay.

01:21:55.740 So employed, they might know how to hoe phase,

01:21:59.500 but they had to hoe a little bit.

01:22:01.540 You know what I mean?

01:22:02.140 Like they had to hoe.

01:22:05.580 Or this is why I'm laughing.

01:22:08.200 This is why I'm laughing.

01:22:09.820 We're going to be messed up.

01:22:12.920 The one that won in foreign countries,

01:22:17.640 the guys with passports went overseas, got them.

01:22:20.340 those are the ones who won yeah yeah so that they don't know anything

01:22:28.200 okay go on

01:22:31.440 oh that was bad no that's okay that's okay

01:22:36.940 foreign women's are the one that won they're the ones who got the popular giga chads

01:22:44.460 i i'd give it especially those guys who like foreign women win i was going to say especially

01:22:52.540 those guys who like my fault no go ahead go ahead please continue good no i was just saying

01:23:00.740 especially those guys that like play like semi-pro basketball who got to play overseas and

01:23:05.980 stuff like that they get those like mid-tier like they get those high value dollars like a guy who

01:23:12.880 works a regular job if he's making like a half a million a year two million a year something like

01:23:17.920 that but they're playing overseas ball they're getting that big time money they're just not a

01:23:22.480 nba star but they are making big time money in comparison to the average joe in america

01:23:29.120 they're the nba stars in their country like i have friends that play

01:23:32.960 in like poland or they played in the philippines for pro teams yeah that's what i'm saying exactly

01:23:38.240 yeah they're like celebrities over there they're like mega bars over there um exactly so why get

01:23:43.520 an american chick when you can get one of those chicks and when you come back to america in the

01:23:48.080 off season i gotta be honest though i don't see a ton of men like if you look at the numbers it's

01:23:55.600 not that big of a percentage of men that are going overseas women are going overseas more than men

01:24:02.240 well here's the other thing the women are bros to be honest here's the thing like you know going

01:24:09.520 over steamies doesn't mean brutal winning it doesn't mean you're winning like you think like

01:24:13.680 the girls over there don't have games that they run on guys they do oh yeah yeah most definitely

01:24:20.640 all you're doing is exchanging you know these problems for these problems with women you know

01:24:26.320 like yeah because i guarantee you any guy that goes wife's up a chick from wherever other country

01:24:33.840 and then if you bring her back to the states and you guys live here in the states she's gonna

01:24:38.800 become westernized and she's gonna become just like every other woman so here so if you find

01:24:46.160 a good one overseas then keep your ass over there stay over there don't come back because it's that

01:24:51.520 it's that society that culture that keeps those buffers in place over there for her to be that way

01:24:58.000 because as soon as you bring it to america there's no buffers and she's going to adopt

01:25:02.560 to what women are like out here yeah maybe unless she didn't go through that phase that

01:25:09.120 we're talking about to be honest like i just i see the phase as an eventuality for most women

01:25:17.200 i'd say like brutal because like i you know what i've just i've seen too much and the women that

01:25:24.760 like don't have the whole phase up front they just do it later they just do it well they do

01:25:33.140 it differently like and i think a whole phase is like on a spectrum right because what some

01:25:39.960 people call whole phase could be like one or two one night stands period um right and then

01:25:47.720 what other people think of the whole phase is having their back blown out by the entire

01:25:51.900 dallas cowboys football team right it's on a spectrum right so a carousel well it's just

01:25:59.820 kind of like you know how do we how much of a whole phase did you have did you have like you

01:26:04.460 know little bitty itty bitty ho face or did you go full on you know uh mia khalifa ho face oh

01:26:12.400 but hey perla i'll say this i'll say this that movie pretty woman where the where the chick

01:26:20.940 got scooped up yeah i i've honestly never seen that myself but i i i i i have seen where they

01:26:30.080 like lames where they were called lanes where they were like not that popular but they made it big

01:26:36.640 and they made a lot of money and went back to uh together and scooped up one of those chicks who

01:26:43.200 they grew up with i have seen that a few times actually being out in los angeles yeah i mean

01:26:51.520 i've seen porn stars get married oh yeah yeah attractive men too i can't even say they're

01:26:59.440 like riley a friend of mine we can't say he's ugly riley he's not he's a good looking guy

01:27:06.600 go ahead one of my friends you know she's she's a porn star she just got married you know and

01:27:12.880 and she married a very well off guy in the industry in the film industry and they're happy

01:27:18.760 i'm like hey that's them because if women women had to be with betas in the past anyway

01:27:24.040 so the ho phase benefits women because women get both they get the alphas and the beta later

01:27:30.120 yeah women don't have a ho phase it benefits like men but it doesn't benefit women because

01:27:35.760 women want both women want like the hot sex with the alphas and to marry the betas later

01:27:41.860 yeah they that's where that's where the sexy sun theory is right like you know they want to get

01:27:47.720 knocked up by the alpha and have the beta you know take care of them who's um yeah who else is

01:27:55.720 in the hey you want me to step down miss pearl sorry about that oh you guys hear me uh sorry i

01:28:02.500 can't see your username name but what's your name i got brad my name is brad it's wonderful to speak

01:28:08.020 to you guys hey so good to speak to you too what is your thoughts on the topic the women that

01:28:14.340 you've seen get with lockdown popular men or very attractive men? I would say, generally speaking,

01:28:22.940 being photogenic and angular, you know, in your form is most certainly ideal to getting married.

01:28:29.180 But personally, from my own lived experience, I'll go to, you know, megachurch young adult groups,

01:28:34.700 and I see kind of a cultural breakdown. In the 1950s, post-hippie movement, the divorce rate

01:28:40.740 increased quite, quite drastically. And I think there was some cultural dysfunction that went on

01:28:47.440 there. And so, you know, I always like to look within and say, if I'm attempting to get married,

01:28:52.600 is it just me being socially inept? Am I just lacking charisma in some way? But I really do

01:28:57.440 see people my age of Gen Z being quite distraught and kind of emotionally unsure in their feelings

01:29:04.540 of marriage. Because I think they look at the, a lot of the older boomers kind of hosting these

01:29:09.520 events and they're like this doesn't look right to me and i don't see the wisdom necessarily to

01:29:15.560 pave the way to a healthy and functional marriage in the 1900s uh i i just think people spoke in a

01:29:23.040 more eloquent and i suppose a concise way um brad i like your vocabulary your vocabulary is

01:29:34.920 quite extensive there sir oh i appreciate you uh but so you said you're gen z right i'm 26 years

01:29:43.440 i you're a young thundercat um i think back in the day you know when we look at marriage right

01:29:50.480 it was the boomers failed because they in my opinion they gave up they destroyed the the

01:29:58.940 hierarchy of the family they uh husbands became more um submissive and deferring authority to

01:30:06.140 their wives and that's why we see the inversion of the family now we see the the breakdown of

01:30:12.260 the family today because men have given over the the role of the authority to their wives

01:30:19.000 they're not the ones running shit there anymore that's my opinion yeah yeah i think it's often

01:30:27.180 people like to make the financial argument uh behind not getting married and not not partaking

01:30:32.700 in such but i think that's really just a lack of being contempt i wouldn't mind a smaller home and

01:30:38.700 and less land if you know it led to more oh yeah well i love it i do want to stick to the i do want

01:30:45.100 to stick to the topic though of course so are you okay so are you where are you from like what city

01:30:51.100 me i'm from oh atlanta georgia okay and are you do you have like a lot of friends there like

01:30:57.820 were you involved in school like oh i was i was at the marine corps rotc and i'm a military veteran

01:31:05.100 okay great so the the most popular guys that were locked down by women what strategies did

01:31:12.140 you see them employ to get that i would say it would have to be mostly physical attraction

01:31:19.420 and using romance is almost like a status symbol which i think people in the old days used to

01:31:24.540 outgrow uh that convention a bit faster than they do today i think the social media is infantile

01:31:31.420 and juvenile it's childish okay i would agree cool i'm gonna i'm gonna move on to the next caller

01:31:38.780 thanks for calling in brad of course thank you i appreciate it calling anytime all right you stay

01:31:43.820 well god bless you brett brett is a smart nice chipper chap isn't he yeah hey isabella how are

01:31:52.540 you hey i'm good how are you pearl good and shiv welcome to the show hey what's up i'm gonna give

01:31:59.740 you guys a little recap so if you weren't here earlier so charlie kirk had a tweet um and it

01:32:06.220 was responding to this woman that told women to sleep around when they were young and then um

01:32:12.460 basically look for the guy that's going places and lock them down when they're a little bit older

01:32:18.380 and i thought to myself he said this strategy this is going to like lead to what young women's

01:32:24.140 destruction and i thought to myself that's the exact strategy your wife used and it worked on

01:32:29.660 you and she's now married to one of the top conservative influencers now my my case is that

01:32:35.420 she was 32 that's a long time to be sexually active i just can't imagine in 30 you know

01:32:42.220 in 10 years i would just assume you probably had a one night stand or a situationship i'm not this

01:32:48.460 isn't to virtue signal it's just to say you know it probably happened she went to arizona state

01:32:54.860 which is pretty i mean there there's are you kidding me and usually the guy asu i know what

01:33:01.500 happened it's gross yeah and then on top of that she modeled half naked it's not to say she was

01:33:08.380 an all-out whore, but I just can't, I'm not going to believe she waited until she was married.

01:33:14.660 And I don't, so if she was really honest, I'm like, to get what you have, you actually whored

01:33:21.040 out a little bit and then rebranded when you met Charlie. That was a good strategy.

01:33:26.340 I had this same thought process with my mother because my mom always told us to wait till

01:33:31.700 marriage, but she got pregnant right after she met my dad and they grew together for 30 years.

01:33:36.520 so i don't really see the abstinence working in general in 2025 and the women that get and

01:33:44.980 it has to be the men that women find attractive women are lining up to be with celebrities not

01:33:51.720 engineers unfortunately so i i'm just curious the women that you've seen get what women want

01:33:59.600 what strategy did you see them employ to get there and did they have to hoe out to win

01:34:06.480 Shiv you can go first and then Isabella you can go next go ahead um so yeah I actually think the

01:34:12.640 strategy that's worked the best like is and I've seen so many people get married I'm going to

01:34:17.500 St. Louis literally the after tomorrow for a wedding um and the strategy that's always worked

01:34:23.200 is uh date be a serial dater as a woman and sleep around a lot and the same thing as we tell the

01:34:30.160 red pill guys right to spin plates and uh and you know and have one be compliant to you for a long

01:34:36.360 period of time and like prove themselves and then maybe they can win it out so unfortunately i've

01:34:41.840 all the married people i know uh were all the girls were kind of sleeping around to be honest

01:34:47.720 so yeah i i haven't seen a lot of um i just feel like the people who hold it out for marriage

01:34:57.020 just forget married like i or i just never see it working to i don't know i feel like i'm in

01:35:02.360 california so i see a very different world everyone here is very capitalistic like everyone's like

01:35:06.800 it's a race to the top yeah but if you're like big difference no no i mean like my heritage

01:35:15.540 the women the women holding out to be fair are never that hot that's true that's true it's easy

01:35:22.300 to be pure of your fat and ugly i agree no no you don't know because like i think a hot girl

01:35:26.980 could maybe employ that strategy and it could work like erica was pretty hot but if you're a

01:35:32.000 man cooks no guys that's like a honda civic and you're charging like full price hell no

01:35:38.000 if you're a man you have to do something else to get the attention get to add that extra value

01:35:43.320 you know this reminds me of something i saw zirka the great zirka tweet a while ago it's like you

01:35:49.360 know what he'd rather date uh ex-ho that's really hot than a virgin who's really just i mean ugly

01:35:56.860 i mean mid might even be a compliment but i want to say that obviously i'm a christian i do think

01:36:00.940 that you know staying abstinent until marriage is what we should do however we're living in the

01:36:05.920 modern world and yeah i think a lot of these women like the conservative women have to rebrand and

01:36:11.300 pretend like they don't have a past i mean luckily for me you know i used to be an atheist and i'm

01:36:16.380 now christian but pearl you know that someone leaked my halloween you know hoe costume from

01:36:22.000 college she looked hot thank you people said thank you pearl thank you pearl my lesbian

01:36:27.820 isabel here's the question though let me ask you this like wouldn't it isn't it just easier to own

01:36:34.040 it be like yeah i enjoyed it back then this is where my mind was back then this is what i was

01:36:39.320 thinking about you know now i i see things a little bit differently i don't move the same way

01:36:44.600 it's it's when women that conservative women deny or even act like those that never existed that

01:36:49.720 they've always been this virtuous it's like yeah yeah i mean it's just like we smell the bs it's

01:36:55.480 like what you've always been the picture perfect i'm tried wife come on let's be real that's what

01:37:00.280 me and pearl can't stand about a lot of these women is they pretend to be something that they're

01:37:04.200 not and like when my photos of my halloween costume got exposed i was like at first i didn't even want

01:37:08.920 to address it because i was so embarrassed but my husband was like just have humility just say like

01:37:13.560 you you were an atheist you were godless you were you know a decent looking girl in college that's

01:37:18.360 what the is doing college unfortunately and just be upfront about it and just give all glory to

01:37:23.560 god like you've changed not in the nala sense you know that's i don't believe her change but you

01:37:29.160 know we have to allow women room to change but these women cannot try to lie to us and claim

01:37:33.160 that they've always been freaking perfect okay because if you look that good chances are you

01:37:38.680 probably like this is what i've said on the last time i was on your stream pearl is i think all

01:37:42.760 girls are hoes until they're married i mean obviously when they're i'm saying like adult

01:37:46.840 women you know getting sexually active they're all hoes until they're locked down

01:37:52.520 because every trad wife there's some ho there's something like yeah there's something you know

01:37:58.040 so i have a question the girls so what school did you go to do is that online go ahead yeah i went

01:38:03.800 to a catholic high school and i know you asked me earlier and i was trying to think okay the girls

01:38:09.000 that i knew in high school who had good outcomes and to be honest i'm such like a introvert that

01:38:14.360 i don't keep in touch with anyone ever barely literally curl you literally are the person i

01:38:18.680 text the most okay the most i don't know i don't know okay let me let me say it a different way

01:38:24.600 who was dating so when i think about my school experience there was one or two very attractive

01:38:31.000 guys on every team okay and they had girlfriends by senior year most of them at some point had a

01:38:37.240 girlfriend now maybe they didn't get the ring some did some didn't but we can at least say they made

01:38:42.360 it the furthest they got the closest what i observed was that it would not be the super sluts

01:38:49.240 or the prudes it was the women that were somewhere in the middle one girl i'm thinking of i would

01:38:55.080 put her at actually a 5.5 maybe six she wasn't that cute but i think she got with the guy because

01:39:03.320 she was really chill when she would sleep with the guy it would be like we can be a thing we

01:39:08.280 cannot be a thing like it's up to you whatever you you know she wouldn't they all knew she wouldn't

01:39:12.920 crash out she wouldn't run her mouth like she wasn't gonna go you know and she was just a chill

01:39:18.520 person to be around that's how i think she won and apparently she was good and bad that's what

01:39:23.320 everyone said so that strategy she did not end up marrying that guy there was another girl who was

01:39:30.520 in a situation ship for like six years and i thought she would never i thought he would never

01:39:35.560 marry her i thought she was so stupid and lo and behold she's pregnant with kids now you would be

01:39:43.160 surprised i know it's like the red pill guys like and everyone we talk about how

01:39:47.640 men want pure women which i think that they do that's a that's a grift it's a cult how i know

01:39:52.520 but however in the real world like we saw like what's his name freaking logan is it logan paul

01:39:56.760 he married that oh yeah freaking psycho jezebel like psychotic woman from the clips i've seen

01:40:03.000 like she's not only an ex-ho but she's also like a nagging crazy she looks awful she's like she

01:40:08.200 doesn't even try to look good while pregnant she's just one of those that's i'm pregnant

01:40:11.960 you must serve me which i cannot stand those women so many of them but yeah guys they don't

01:40:18.280 want a virgin that's that's a lie that's a lie they they just don't want to know that you were

01:40:23.320 a hoe okay they want to think that they brought the hoe out of you okay and ladies just let them

01:40:29.320 think that okay i think this is guys in general like christian men would rather have no girl but

01:40:35.960 it's tough to come by no they wouldn't i know just as many christians i was a former youth pastor

01:40:40.440 trust me i know just as many guys you say that and then they fold the second time they'll be like

01:40:46.440 oh i hate fake lips fake boobs and then a girl with all of that will flirt with them for five

01:40:51.720 minutes yeah remember kevin samuels he makes a distinction between entertainers and then like

01:41:03.800 corporate corporate business men so make sure to make that distinction because remember a lot of

01:41:08.280 red pill guys are entertainers first right but they don't see things from the the corporate

01:41:15.240 business side but i will even and see that a woman that goes through a whole phase she can get the

01:41:23.240 corporate business doctor lawyer type as long as she doesn't have a public persona of being

01:41:30.600 we have to redefine what purity is purity can't be considered low bodies as much as how many

01:41:38.580 bodies can be proven right it's like it's like look bad at the time like is she a bad reflection

01:41:45.140 on him at the time and a lot of the corporate guys or accountants i heard pearl you mentioned

01:41:49.400 that earlier you know they were probably goofy and a little geeky in high school but once these

01:41:53.660 guys are like in their 30s and 40 especially 30s really like late 20s they can mature and they can

01:41:58.640 become very good looking so it's like they finally can get the hot girls but you know she's gonna

01:42:03.100 have some bodies and some baggage probably but he'll wife her up probably well the thing is again

01:42:08.740 it's like does is your past out there for everyone to see do we all know how who you've been with and

01:42:15.000 how that you've been with them if that's the case yeah they're going to consider you for the streets

01:42:18.920 but if you are if you've been able to keep your your private life private and it's not a public

01:42:25.240 knowledge then that's purity i mean that's really what it is and purity is what is able to be

01:42:31.240 perceived as pure it's like the image the public image yeah the perception yeah yeah yeah we want

01:42:37.800 the demeanor of a virgin right like a woman who like is excited to be with you excited to have

01:42:43.000 sex with you excited you know complying all that stuff uh whether she is or not indifferent right

01:42:48.360 like the reality is if i went on a date with a girl and she was like i'm saving it for marriage

01:42:53.800 i'm in a weird dilemma right because i'm like okay so i'm going to date you for two years

01:42:57.960 and that's like a part of this whole equation right so but but i don't want to feel like if

01:43:04.440 i'm hooking up with a girl that she was that she doesn't is not as excited about me as her past

01:43:11.000 right like we want to we want to be her sexual exclusive her sexual best um yeah and that's

01:43:17.400 more important than being being uh and that's why they like the virgin element because if

01:43:22.440 you suck but you're herb first you're her best so she has that that's instead of wanting to be

01:43:29.960 able to be compared to other guys you just want to make sure that by default you're her best

01:43:34.520 you know what i'm sorry go ahead you know what we did once he said i've never i've never um

01:43:42.440 i've taken a girl's virginity and i didn't like she wasn't bond i don't know how we said it but

01:43:47.240 was like i've taken a girl's virginity and she wasn't bonded to me but the first time i slapped

01:43:52.440 a girl she like they're so toxic yeah well i heard rollo say one time and this totally made sense to

01:44:02.840 me he's like it yeah body count does matter like we talk about body counts but realistically as

01:44:08.040 long as you're the man that out alphas all the past bodies and like you don't really know and

01:44:13.320 that's not in your circle then she will be yours but if she thinks about her past and there's a

01:44:18.120 guy that out alpha'd you then that's a problem right right because if she's like 60 like nerdy

01:44:23.640 asian mark zuckerberg looking guys to me she's like effectively a virgin right you know what i

01:44:29.400 mean but if she's like with one of these guys on the panel then it's like that's like 80 bodies

01:44:36.200 just one time right this guy in the chat he said so if you've been with zirka once

01:44:43.480 that's like a hundred guys this guy in the chat says so we're saying we want a liar

01:44:49.160 pearl says it all the time men especially the average guy wants to believe the lie

01:44:54.840 how many guys do you know where the woman's like i've never done this before like the guy wants to

01:45:01.560 believe he knows he wants to believe the lie and that's the thing with the lazy to understand with

01:45:07.800 your promiscuous past if you can set it up where he can believe like he wants to believe that you

01:45:13.080 haven't slept with as many women or you haven't done the stuff that you've done so just be able

01:45:19.720 to contextualize it and let him believe the lie hold on hey flo get up here i see you in the chat

01:45:24.920 it's almost um respectful like you know how when men cheat and they lie about it it's like a little

01:45:31.860 bit more respectful they actually care it's like women lie about their

01:45:36.100 women lie about their past they actually they do they they care about the guy and i'll tell you

01:45:44.500 what it's it's it's like they neither should happen right they neither should do it but

01:45:52.180 i think it's like when guys cheated they don't care about getting caught that's when they know

01:45:57.140 that they don't care about you anymore well i think it's important to point out like a lot of

01:46:02.020 this is like the body count issue yes we understand how science has shown that like it'd be harder to

01:46:08.100 pair bond but like what you were saying that that rollo said actually was an rp thor you know comment

01:46:14.180 that we were talking about years ago that when it came to body count like body count doesn't matter

01:46:18.500 once you are the best that she has compared to when she looks back at her past sexual past

01:46:24.340 and if you surpass them you are the the man you're the best you're the one that she's been alpha by

01:46:30.500 let me show you oh sorry go ahead god no so i'm saying so that is important that's where body

01:46:35.780 count doesn't matter but guys don't want to have to compete with these ghosts of her past so they

01:46:41.300 just default want the virgin it's kind of beta behavior honestly it's like i'm sure these

01:46:47.300 celebrities here these like men that all the women want to be with we're really concerned

01:46:51.700 about this girl's body count that they all dated seriously no yeah they don't care isn't that what's

01:46:57.460 her name zoe kravitz yeah yeah yeah i think the reality is men really don't care as much as we

01:47:04.500 try to say that they do well i think this i think guys want the girl to have a lower body count than

01:47:10.100 them right so guys only had a you know you've only been one or two girls well what you know

01:47:17.140 now you're kind of there's not that many bodies she has to collect to have more experience than

01:47:21.540 you we want to just have more experience than the girls so i think for a lot of guys if they don't

01:47:25.540 have that privilege that's where i think it matters more is that they want they want the

01:47:29.940 girls hot but selective not too crazy hoes but somewhat selective well actually it's good though

01:47:36.180 because it means the woman actually has some has respect for herself she just didn't let any random

01:47:41.380 dick you know swing on by like the guy had had some qualifiers right now maybe the one the one

01:47:47.060 issue though is that when women like a lot of women that cash out young they just like there's

01:47:52.580 a reason why the divorce rate is the lowest for between i think it's between 25 and 30. it's

01:47:58.420 because the women that cash out young they feel like they're missing out a lot of the time and

01:48:03.140 then they they just hoe later they like hoe at 40. not all not always but that happens go ahead

01:48:08.580 girl just like your parents my parents were each other's first like boyfriend girlfriend since they

01:48:12.580 were 12. and they're still they're still together so we have some good parents they didn't have

01:48:18.580 before married though i knew a woman her and her husband were from where was sarah pala from

01:48:23.780 alaska was still alaska they are from yeah alaska he was she was 15 he was 16. they had sex once

01:48:34.420 got pregnant and so that it was a shotgun wedding because she was 58 at the time and he was 59 but

01:48:40.900 they had been married for over 40 years well i think it's because that's when women at that age

01:48:46.980 they're just picking for genetics so like a lot of my mom told me that a lot of the high school

01:48:52.500 pregnancies like in her high school they ended up staying with the dad because there's no like

01:48:58.020 because what happens is women go get damaged from the body count and then they start going in with

01:49:03.780 an agenda like i want to get married and so i think the wall is when women are too damaged

01:49:10.980 where they can't select for alphas anymore like they can't do it they get the herp you know they

01:49:16.740 get ghosted twice you know something whatever something bad happens and they can't date the

01:49:23.300 hot guys anymore that's the wall my favorite pure girls in my catholic high school were the girls

01:49:28.820 that they weren't technically deflowered but they went in the back door and stent so oh yeah yeah

01:49:38.420 that's a great way to get aids yeah i had a whole bunch of um the suburb i grew up in

01:49:45.940 was a military suburb because it was outside of a a large military base so a bunch of the officers

01:49:51.860 the colonels who kind of colonels when we first moved there but over the years a bunch of mormon

01:49:56.340 families moved in and mormon girls were all about the the gawk gawk and and taking it back there man

01:50:04.100 yeah so weird girls were absolutely weird she's a virgin there's your virgin guys that's what you

01:50:10.580 wanted right what's crazy is like i know a lot of like relationships that have been 20 you know 15

01:50:17.220 20 years and these girls were hoes these and the guys were players you know and they're married

01:50:22.100 and they're great relationship great relationship but then all these trads you know super you know

01:50:28.100 religious you know pious people claiming they want this and that horrible relationships what up flo

01:50:34.500 wait a minute hey hey what's going on guys yo guys and girls me and flo be talking about this

01:50:43.940 on my show all the time that guys are over like zealous about this body count like we

01:50:48.900 body count so i want i wanted to see what your thought was on the topic the women that you've

01:50:54.340 seen win and date the most attractive and popular men i'm in girl world that's winning

01:51:00.340 it just is what it is um did they have to hoe to get there at what age

01:51:10.260 i mean i just go through some scenarios you've so i mean it's it seems like it was sort of a

01:51:18.440 tightrope right like you they couldn't not put out they couldn't prude their way there but they

01:51:23.740 also couldn't hoe their way there it really is a fine balance tightrope i mean not so not so tight

01:51:31.500 rope touche it's like you know they may have done like a little bit of freaky deaky with one guy but

01:51:38.620 they were never in like a threesome on somebody's cell phone video like that's a whole new level

01:51:44.540 well so could you go through maybe some women that you've seen win and how you saw them get there

01:51:49.900 it could be like from your high school college just whoever comes to mind like first and to

01:51:56.860 find winning again it's getting with like um an attractive popular guy that other ones want

01:52:03.280 and she has to get the ring and the kid okay so the attractive uh popular guy at 16

01:52:12.200 and at 35 are pretty different that is true yeah that is true oh yeah so so

01:52:19.360 go for 35 let's say okay um

01:52:25.060 well my wife met me at a park because we were both single parents

01:52:33.480 um actually i don't know that i have an answer for that um because you know that time we're all

01:52:41.740 kind of separated i'm not paying a lot of attention to what people are doing i did notice that

01:52:46.220 um at for at 25 it was like clockwork um when if a woman turned 25 and she was not married

01:52:55.460 had a kid or in a serious relationship it seemed like they'd really start freaking out then and

01:53:02.520 and uh reaching out to anybody in their facebook friends list that they hadn't talked to in a while

01:53:07.700 to try to get that moving but um i don't know that i think that there's actually a recipe for

01:53:14.580 a recipe for that um so i'm not asking i'm just asking for what you've seen work

01:53:21.780 like an example i gave earlier was um my parents met they've been together 30 years and

01:53:29.540 i mean they got pregnant immediately so that's what that's what happened so

01:53:33.300 so were they were they married before they got pregnant or did they get pregnant then married

01:53:39.420 they were they were like three months into knowing each other she was pregnant

01:53:43.500 right and so what does that point out the points out like the fact that the woman does have to show

01:53:50.760 sexual desire for the guy yeah you know and if and she could show that sexual desire and not

01:53:57.340 have sex and she could probably still win if she didn't lock him down but that that exclusive

01:54:03.600 desire that she wants him has to be there yeah and go ahead i think it's values i don't think

01:54:12.080 it's sex uh i mean of course sex has to be there that's like a prerequisite but i think it's

01:54:16.620 it's the values of the two people share the same values and some people you know that's going to

01:54:21.740 look different for each couple yeah yeah i think that al smith says hi pearl my girlfriend dumped

01:54:29.120 me on my birthday and now all of a sudden she wants to text i haven't responded what's making

01:54:33.360 it easier to not respond is the fact of how cruel she dumped me any thoughts i'm hanging strong

01:54:37.700 she probably went for a guy and he probably ghosted and now she's back she's looking

01:54:42.840 right she got pumped and dumped so don't make it feel any better don't make him feel better about

01:54:52.520 it yeah bring her the grass wanted nothing to do with her after the grass got what it wanted

01:54:57.560 and now she's roaring back yeah no humiliate her really have you seen ams

01:55:09.160 where he's like she can come back but she's got to eat some ass yeah al this is my advice for you

01:55:17.400 go find her best friend and if her best friend's single bang her best friend like never before

01:55:25.640 okay then reply to her text message oh i'm sorry i was busy what's up what you should do is just

01:55:30.760 come up here put her number in the back chat and let us call her live oh yeah do you have any

01:55:35.640 call her i can ask her i can ask her why you like messed it like why she messed it up with you

01:55:42.440 if you give me her if you put her number yeah you click the stream link we can

01:55:50.920 don't put her in the chat you guys have seen that no go in the back chat like go on the stream yards

01:55:56.680 you guys have seen that one radio show where they always memorize oh sorry have you seen the radio

01:56:02.120 show on the instagram reels where they call a woman will say hey i broke up with this guy

01:56:07.000 goes to me so the rose the radio call hosts will call the guy and say so you went out with michelle

01:56:12.440 right what happened and then they have her on the phone we should do that right now it'd be great

01:56:16.920 i'll do it yeah i'll do it um let's go that's okay what would hurt this ex-girl friend more

01:56:23.960 you think if he were to bang a like a hotter friend of hers or an uglier friend because if

01:56:29.640 it's an uglier girl in my opinion i'm like really like an uglier the hotter girl hotter girl is

01:56:36.920 always the one that gets some women yeah girls will get mad that you bang the ugly girl because

01:56:41.640 then that means that you don't have respect for yourself and you know well that's why they get mad

01:56:46.840 but like they adjust where they view themselves right yeah but they get jealous over the hotter

01:56:51.640 girl it would confirm the decision of not dating you though because it'd be like oh yeah he just

01:56:57.160 bangs these fatties yeah i was probably right right it would be for thinking he made the right

01:57:01.640 call so if they get cheated on by the ugly girl if the guy cheats on a hot girl with an uggo

01:57:07.960 then it hurts the girl's feelings yes that's that's what the bust down is yeah yeah that's

01:57:12.040 really what i meant it's like really you're gonna cheat for an uglier girl come on yeah for a bust

01:57:15.480 down i mean come on that kind of happened a lot too okay aj what are your thoughts on the topic

01:57:21.480 oh i've seen girls you'll get the 35 year old uh chad with the old baby trap you know wasn't akbar

01:57:29.640 it's a trap you know what i mean like that's that's since the beginning of time you know home

01:57:34.920 girl you know hits like 35 she's been ran through and then she just all of a sudden messes up on her

01:57:41.000 birth control managed to be on her birth control from 16 to 34. you know what i mean going through

01:57:47.240 trains and trains the dudes and all of a sudden has a oops a baby and and that's the one thing

01:57:52.200 that guys that that no matter what most men can get shamed into doing is doing the right thing

01:57:58.920 do the right thing make an honest woman out of her yeah yeah yeah you can train any women like

01:58:03.880 if you are an alpha enough train her like literally tame her like she's a wild horse

01:58:08.840 um that's what my husband did to me he had to get all the bitchiness out of me like i'm a online

01:58:13.480 because he says i can be but in the home oh that does not that does not fly whatsoever no i say

01:58:20.360 tries to make you a parent against your your will all she needs to get from you is direct deposit

01:58:26.120 straight up dude nope nope nope it ain't happening and this is how women gain power it's through sex

01:58:31.160 like men will slip up hook up with a girl and that's how women gain power that's why the richest

01:58:35.400 women in the world are freaking rich from divorce like i mean i don't like to tell men what to do

01:58:41.080 but we they got to stop giving these and hoes so much power because that's

01:58:46.360 prioritizing we'll bring on the ai sex robot hey gary you said you got some disagreements

01:58:52.280 i'm ready for it yeah so what have you it's not really it's more based on just what your

01:58:59.000 personal experience has been so feel free go ahead okay so specifically about the whole phase

01:59:05.400 having positive benefits for a woman i think that i think it's being presented in too much of an

01:59:10.840 extreme like to say a hoe i think there's really the downsides to being a hoe are still what they

01:59:16.660 are like i think that women that don't put out at all you're absolutely right they're gonna have a

01:59:21.400 hard time locking down any guy of value because the majority of guys outside of super religious

01:59:27.500 guys they're gonna want to get laid but um specifically in my own experience i feel like

01:59:35.360 like some of those examples you're giving those even come from like even charlie kirk or your mom

01:59:41.340 these are these are like late stage uh millennials and then your mom's probably gen x whereas

01:59:47.880 nowadays with like social media and the access like let me just put it this way the majority

01:59:53.580 of girls i date like i stay away from nines and tens i'll date girls that are like seven or go

01:59:58.760 out on dates with seven and like 70 of the women that i see have like quote unquote dated like a

02:00:05.220 professional athlete or a musician or something so i mean when when that gets thrown into the mix

02:00:13.240 of like the whole phase like they're not going to like regain those heights as far as like when

02:00:19.020 they're when some guy ready like actually does settle down with them they're gonna be miserable

02:00:23.340 i'm gonna cut you for one second so you said what percent of women have date like dated an athlete

02:00:28.560 or something like 70 of the girls i i go out with really guys wait wait so what looks level are they

02:00:36.720 would you say like seven maybe eight like i said i don't i don't go after nines and tens because

02:00:42.080 it's like it's just too much effort but guys wait wait i'm gonna i'm gonna go back and forth with

02:00:48.320 him and then you can go um so the so the women that you date um what athletes are they dating

02:00:57.120 like have they told you are they a-level athletes b-level c i just want to know how cook like

02:01:02.800 literally the the majority of them their names i recognize i don't even really follow sports that

02:01:08.180 much anymore so like pro nfl like i'll just give you an example the last three i've talked to

02:01:13.380 one of them was active nfl player retired nba player and uh baseball player also retired

02:01:21.740 and how often um do they just bring it up first date or are you asking no like that's more so

02:01:29.440 like if if i'm kind of uh getting to the point of considering them for a relationship then i i will

02:01:35.280 try to have conversations that will help me gather things about their past like i'll never ask them

02:01:39.960 about body count or anything like that but i just kind of ask like what are some of the experiences

02:01:45.020 they've had that kind of stand out to them right and like so many of the times that's that's what

02:01:49.980 they're going to and how long did they say they dated them for i'm just curious like to the point

02:01:58.260 where no no no absolutely not not even one of them and how did they meet him was it instagram

02:02:03.900 or what instagram usually yeah usually instagram and like i said not one of them and and i know

02:02:09.700 this just from asking questions not one of them was ever claimed by these guys some of the

02:02:15.160 relationships were like three months up to like one girl's telling me it was like a three-year

02:02:20.320 relationship but again this guy's like barely ever in town and just like based on how much they were

02:02:26.300 seeing each other like it clearly wasn't actually his girl how yeah how often on average did they

02:02:32.620 see the girls well the the last girl i was talking to she she said she was in a three-year relationship

02:02:39.580 with this guy and she said he was out of town all the time so there'd be like two three months

02:02:45.880 spans where he wouldn't be in town and then when he was in town they'd see each other like

02:02:49.440 two three times in a week and then maybe one other time for that month and then he's off

02:02:55.420 was she monogamous to him yeah a lot of times they are because they think that they're like

02:03:02.000 in a like a talking stage or sometimes it's like they eventually see it as a situation ship but

02:03:09.000 they I mean these guys just what they're doing too they are presenting it as like

02:03:13.320 hey I really like you like I want to see where this goes but I'm super busy a

02:03:19.980 bunch of different areas a bunch of different stuff like how serious are

02:03:23.220 relationships these girls are just like hometown holes for these guys a hundred

02:03:27.660 percent and I mean I always in my mind of like I want to tell them that but it's

02:03:32.700 like I also want to get what I want so it's just not beneficial to me to say

02:03:36.060 wait wait guys and so how long do how long does it go until it ends like for them usually like

02:03:47.060 is it sorry who ends it do they end up getting ghosted or how does it end uh so that that varies

02:03:55.180 um but honestly i think the majority of the time it is the woman ending it because it's just like

02:04:00.540 she it's like she clues in and uh realizes what it really is okay wow and so you'd say 70 of like

02:04:08.860 the sevens or eights you've gone on dates with yeah and honestly like i've talked to other friends

02:04:14.060 who like we kind of we are similar attraction level and like we seem to do around the same

02:04:19.580 success rate and like my numbers seem high but then their numbers are pretty similar like they

02:04:26.460 are also running into it a lot are you on twitter by chance are you on twitter no i don't use

02:04:31.260 twitter twitter is uh are you on instagram i am on instagram would you mind could you send me i

02:04:37.580 won't show it but i just kind of want to see the looks level would you show me a picture of a girl

02:04:42.300 you can unsend it after you can understand i won't screenshot i just want to see

02:04:46.220 if it's an actual let me do it right now i wasn't doing the same thing bro yeah i'm a good i'm a

02:04:51.580 good judge so why pearl because you think you're a 10 you're so conceited and oh my gosh you um

02:04:57.740 it's just mirror yeah it's just pearly things official okay i could probably find two of them

02:05:03.740 and send to you okay all right guys just channeling my favorite um fellow conservative e-girls that

02:05:08.220 takes so so much offense whenever pearl says that women who are 25 look better than 35 and you guys

02:05:13.660 know you guys know how these hoes go yeah or the or what i call a mid and they're like you're a bit

02:05:18.940 and i'm like i know that's just that's what it is i'm just trying to figure out like like where's

02:05:23.180 gary's market at like his market like where because if he's dating these girls he's saying

02:05:27.260 70 of them are you know been with athletes are you like an a market like but uh i i can tell

02:05:33.340 you i've i've lived in like three places in the past five years i lived in toronto phoenix and

02:05:39.420 in the uk okay and you said you don't want to tell these women that this is what's happening

02:05:45.660 because you want to still get with them yeah feelings and i mean i think one time i did i did

02:05:53.580 i did have a conversation one time and it turned into a huge argument because she swore it was

02:05:58.380 something it wasn't when i was just trying to lay out to her how logically it was unlikely he was

02:06:03.660 just with her well i mean it's just like you're you're a stupid slut that got duped by these guys

02:06:09.020 you know you can be like you don't want to just i don't know enable this behavior i really feel like

02:06:14.220 like you gotta just humble if he's trying to smash you why would he why would he ruin it

02:06:20.280 he's not trying to wife him but women like guys that they can't have so if if she's thinking but

02:06:32.580 he doesn't want her anymore she said she smashed an athlete he's dead not trying to live up to that

02:06:37.260 i mean right right yeah yeah but he wants to he wants the sex so he's gotta oh yeah so okay are

02:06:44.780 you did you know what you're saying though guys were more honest with women in general

02:06:50.860 and was just like look you know you are just a play thing you know that right you're not anything

02:06:56.780 you're not a main thing nobody's trying to invest in you with a ring so you're just a play thing

02:07:01.420 just understand that you are just a utility yeah you know yeah women have like

02:07:09.260 yeah i mean you can see how interested a guy is most of the time but how much he sees you

02:07:14.220 oh wait so pearl could you give me your instagram again please just pearly things official so j-u-s-t

02:07:19.580 p-e-a-r-l-y-t-h-i-n-g-s official o-f-f-i-c-i-a-l okay i found you i'm sending it now so i had

02:07:28.940 another thought about something you were talking about earlier and i agree partially with the panel

02:07:33.660 but like this idea of like um virginity i get i'm not somebody that thinks virginity is super

02:07:40.100 important i mean ideally if i was getting married she would be a virgin but again like it's almost

02:07:45.420 like if you wanted to survive on unicorn meat you're gonna you're gonna start right there are

02:07:49.680 no unicorns so um i like ideally that would be the thing but my thought is and and this is something

02:07:56.500 that again we never know what a girl's body count is but we can get a sense if we're one of the best

02:08:02.380 lays she's ever had and that is very true she'll stop being enthusiastic about getting with you

02:08:08.600 if you're not one of the best she's had if you are in like the top three very good chance that

02:08:13.300 she's going to continually want to get with you yep like did you send it i'm not i'm not seeing

02:08:20.020 the message did you send it but you don't want to be one of those stamps that's like oh you know

02:08:25.000 you just gotta eat your girl out and oh my gosh you gotta just keep like give give give that's

02:08:29.300 also i think just kind of hated behavior i mean not that it means you're a beta but i'm just like

02:08:33.960 okay you can you know you can be her best without freaking like kind of humiliating yourself

02:08:39.660 especially talking about it publicly do you guys agree like it's kind of weird when guys talk about

02:08:43.160 that publicly like there's nothing humiliating about eating box that's true in itself i'm saying

02:08:49.900 i take pride in my work i don't know about these other dudes but like it's like my thing is like

02:08:54.300 every guy should want to be the woman's best sexual experience if that's not your mindset going into

02:08:59.500 it then like you're going to be you're going to be forgotten you're going to be like oh you're

02:09:03.740 going to be one of those regrets ah damn it i wish i didn't get with that guy like you know

02:09:07.580 the ones that the ladies talk about later on that they oh that's okay that's okay

02:09:12.700 when the guys are really good they get referral poonanny that's what i'm saying that's true and

02:09:24.860 i don't know like you just want to tell these women like you got to tame them and they have to

02:09:28.380 teach them that they serve you and yes you can be the best ever but why would they want to

02:09:34.060 like for what you know what i mean i think women want what they can't have i think that's why you

02:09:38.300 see a lot of women initiating divorce and i know the men but the men it's like they don't want to

02:09:42.460 they don't want to do all that like yeah i mean it depends if you want to be done what's he going

02:09:46.460 to do yeah i guess it's like if you're trying to find a life versus just a hookup which i condemn

02:09:50.860 hookups i'm a christian okay i don't do it but people still do it i'm christians you know what

02:09:56.140 of course i just say you know every time if you want to bring your a game okay you want you want

02:10:03.660 them to be like you're the drug that they're addicted to okay you want them to be sprung on

02:10:09.020 you and if you're not laying that down like that then you suck you're right and if and if you're

02:10:15.260 sitting if you're going into this thinking about her exes and wondering if exactly like your your

02:10:21.100 head is in the wrong spot you're gonna suck and real quick my daughter needs me but my husband

02:10:26.940 will do a much better job he's gonna infiltrate and we're gonna switch real quick sure thanks for

02:10:30.940 coming on thank you bye guys um i'm still you send it yet you know what i i just sent it to you

02:10:40.620 but it looks like that's the wrong account one second okay what's your instagram in the chat

02:10:46.780 i can follow you on it in the private chat yeah and then i'll then you'll know it's me and um

02:10:55.020 what is that a harley what harley is that no it's a kawasaki ninja

02:11:00.380 um really so i thought you were cool i'm kidding what what percent of women would you say um

02:11:09.500 it would be a level athletes that they've like spoken to and i'd say 50 of the women that that

02:11:17.020 mentioned athletes they were a level athletes and did you ever see it go down in looks level like um

02:11:25.260 i don't know the fives and sixes no i've never met a five or a six that was that was uh getting

02:11:31.020 with an athlete and to be honest though it's almost like if i was getting with a five or a six

02:11:35.180 we probably wouldn't get far enough or i would even care about her history yeah fair enough okay um

02:11:43.660 i think how do i copy somebody's at because i keep trying to take a screenshot of a picture

02:11:49.500 of them okay okay and then just send it i just want to see the looks i found you and i found her

02:11:55.500 so i can uh let me go to her profile okay i'll do i'll try to be fair would you tell me what athlete

02:12:02.780 it was too you can unsend it later or whatever like i'm not i just want to see i will yeah i

02:12:07.820 want to see like the the pairings it's shocking because to me most of the time when they say it

02:12:14.380 to me i'm like i can't believe this like she's not bad looking but how

02:12:19.500 okay screenshotted sending it to you now

02:12:25.700 and and uh yeah i'll put the name of the guy

02:12:32.160 oh that's funny

02:12:37.560 oh my gosh

02:12:43.580 i can't who is it what the name you see the name yeah what yeah she's from new york and she worked

02:12:54.820 at some uh fancy like uh how old is she she's 30 now is um and he's retired isn't isn't he married

02:13:06.460 he is married now yeah

02:13:08.280 oh but you're saying that

02:13:09.820 it was pre it was pre no no no

02:13:12.660 again like it was pre their marriage

02:13:14.400 I'm pretty sure based on the timeline

02:13:15.880 so now

02:13:17.960 I don't think so

02:13:20.320 because

02:13:20.780 I mean it could be

02:13:24.180 but just don't say it I don't know

02:13:25.800 won't I won't

02:13:26.700 so Shaq is like Shaq admitted that he has like

02:13:29.960 four women

02:13:30.580 that he has

02:13:32.900 2016

02:13:34.260 16 so that was like oh wow then for sure for sure yeah it was only like three or four years ago she

02:13:42.360 said hold on i'm gonna but i can't say because it'll um and honestly that same guy i have a

02:13:48.900 friend that here in phoenix that's from new york and he would tell me he's one of the people that

02:13:53.700 i would confer about this the most with and he told me that um a lot of the girls he got with

02:14:00.120 new york or that guy's second no that guy that guy got with so many like suit like if you've

02:14:07.800 seen his wife i've known of his wife forever because of what i sent you and like she's um

02:14:16.440 she's beautiful but he had like a string of of just eight plus women that he dated that were just

02:14:23.480 like stunning yeah no he was he did it all yeah it was like a generational run

02:14:30.840 so did you meet the girl recently yeah i met her just at the beginning of this year oh okay

02:14:38.760 okay i just uh i just uh stole this from isabella she's dealing with abriana i hope you don't mind

02:14:44.200 pearl no i don't mind at all welcome to the show thank you that chick's husband no i wish i was

02:14:51.160 umpaville fun fact though umpaville is a uh is a chad and a right winger that's just in the chat

02:14:58.600 sorry what are you guys talking about so we're talking about what women got the best outcomes

02:15:05.400 in dating the most popular and most attractive men because in girl world that's winning so

02:15:12.120 because women only pick money when they have to when women are young they don't pick money so

02:15:16.440 So, um, what strategies they employed.

02:15:21.120 And this was, I thought of this because Charlie Kirk had a tweet where he quote tweeted a

02:15:27.100 woman saying, sleep around and then find a guy to settle down with.

02:15:31.960 And he said, this is going to leave a lot of women single.

02:15:35.020 And I thought your wife went to Arizona state university, Charlie, this worked on you.

02:15:40.780 I'm not saying it's a moral thing to do, but you're not going to convince me.

02:15:45.840 were pure if you went to arizona state i mean they were doing spring break at lake havasu let me tell

02:15:52.400 you they were hoeing out on those boats oh yeah so and she was half everybody knows that what

02:15:59.840 lake havasu is the spot and hell yeah i don't know i don't know how in touch you guys are with

02:16:04.320 christianity but i could feel a spiritual whoredom whenever i go to uh asu and i get an aroma i get

02:16:11.120 like an aroma of stds and just like disgust i agree with you no it's a spiritual thing for sure

02:16:16.320 it's totally i think it turns virgins into hoes like it you can be the most pure like that place

02:16:22.400 will break you well you know like charlie kirk hates college he says college is a scam he tells

02:16:26.720 everybody not to go maybe that's why because his wife went to that one who knows dude this could

02:16:32.240 be a multi-faceted thing with charlie well because my point isn't what's moral but i'm like i think

02:16:38.560 a lot of women do that and it works like i i don't think you can say that doesn't work

02:16:44.240 yeah it really comes down to um you know i was a virgin until marriage isabella was not um but it

02:16:50.400 really comes down to not giving a i mean like it's always it's always like obviously if isabelle's

02:16:57.040 body count was super high i wouldn't go for it but um it's like i don't really care um it doesn't

02:17:03.520 really matter to me you're not the main character i am and if you don't think i'm the main character

02:17:08.480 and it's about you then like get the out of here um you know so ultimately it's kind of the it's

02:17:15.440 kind of like the blacks do this really well when they have to stay toxic and they like you know

02:17:19.360 they get on instagram stuff and they're like stay toxic king like go your best friend or whatever

02:17:23.920 um you know it's not necessarily just that it's just like a mindset of like uh nobody nobody else

02:17:31.520 matters it's just you yeah it's like it's your world it's like you are you are now in my world

02:17:36.560 not i'm in your world yeah exactly i gotta push back a bit because i think that if you're not

02:17:42.160 actually one of the best that she's had you can go ahead and like boss up all you want she's gonna

02:17:46.640 look at you like a clown well that's right but you have to be you have to be the guy though you

02:17:52.000 have to be the guy yeah yeah and you have to know if you're the guy and kind of just like move on

02:17:56.560 to something else you just gotta not even worry about that you'll never know what it's like to

02:18:00.320 take the dicks she's taken and but you're the one that she's now so you can assume that she

02:18:04.880 that you're the best well like i said you'll know based on how how she treats you yeah she's

02:18:15.520 it's less about the body count it's more about how does she treat you

02:18:19.200 yeah exactly and women are hypergamous it would be silly if you didn't think so so i mean keeping

02:18:23.200 your abstinence and abstaining from having sex with her until marriage is something that she's

02:18:27.840 just gonna run to she's gonna want that because every single guy in the past is if she wanted

02:18:33.760 them she could get them it automatically makes you a one percenter um and you seem unattainable

02:18:41.120 and uh women just love that they do

02:18:46.960 oh you guys don't know bro you're wrong yeah i i gotta disagree i i mean i've never you're wrong

02:18:52.080 bro i spent a long time since i was a virgin but i don't know actually i will say i think that me

02:18:56.480 it works for a certain guys that already have all the other chad like features or chad like you know

02:19:02.960 status and it works for those guys because like i said my friend uh mike mulvaney one of the iron

02:19:08.560 disciples out of uh um florida he's in his 30s single and he's dated girls that were on access

02:19:15.280 vegas that were models and stuff like that and he wouldn't he would not end up giving the d because

02:19:20.240 he said like they weren't worth my d you know like they weren't worthy of it so i was like

02:19:25.440 yeah some high value let's go yeah it's like my is way too valuable

02:19:33.120 yeah i think men have low self-esteem a lot of times and so they just put out and they don't

02:19:37.680 really take sex seriously and i understand why they wouldn't um but at the end of the day if

02:19:42.640 you're not a guy who's doing calculations in your head and thinking to yourself like

02:19:46.720 if i get her pregnant um you know what does this look like what does my child look like what is

02:19:53.360 our future our family look like if you're not making those calculations i mean i don't know

02:19:57.760 what you're doing uh it's it's not virtual it's not not every woman is worthy of like carrying

02:20:03.760 your legacy is what you're saying exactly yeah and um i grew up in a broken home like i didn't have

02:20:10.320 my biological father around and stuff like that uh that's like the last thing i want to repeat

02:20:15.040 is this uh generational kind of curse of of broken homes and um just a lack of a strong father figure

02:20:24.640 so that's what's always been a bro what if i told you that it's not up to you

02:20:29.280 hey what if i told you you're gay who's it up to it's not up to you bro who's it up to you

02:20:34.960 you think that it's up to you but it's not she has control over you because she doesn't it to her

02:20:40.240 no oh the law says that she does though no how did she how did she have how does he have or she

02:20:46.000 has control over him once the baby's all over him once the baby's saying that you can't you

02:20:52.480 can't sleep around with other with other women who said that she has control over you yeah

02:20:58.800 the contract says it what contract yeah the contract says that you can't sleep with other

02:21:03.600 women guys she can leave you at any time that she wants brother you can leave it's not up to you

02:21:08.080 you have no control marriage contracts work the same in both directions okay

02:21:16.800 have you been married i guess or worse no and i never i have because i'm not stupid i have

02:21:21.760 i'm not divorced and i can tell you they work the same in both directions and i've got custody of

02:21:26.640 my daughter my custody since she was two so tell me what you're talking about you're just coping

02:21:33.680 for being a loser wow yeah yeah that's what that's what it is brother that's what it is

02:21:37.520 yeah we know that's what it is we know that just because i'm not married i'm a loser see that's

02:21:43.120 no it's because you talk like you guys right now there's nothing we can do oh my gosh women

02:21:49.120 oh we're the victims i don't like men now we're gay how are you already when you haven't even had

02:21:54.960 a bad divorce when you say that you're a woman you have to go through a divorce other people

02:22:01.680 you can't just look and use your eyes and use your brain guys guys hold on let me

02:22:07.520 just real fast like the thing with divorce is because here's the thing with red pill channels

02:22:14.480 we can say guys don't get married don't get married in my in our lifetime most guys are still

02:22:19.760 going to get married and they're still going to have kids it's just the the biggest part about it

02:22:24.240 is you know what could happen and if you make a decision don't and complain if if it doesn't work

02:22:31.760 out well there is there isn't risk there's no reward without risk that's what you choose to

02:22:39.360 to do my biggest problem is guys who go into marriage and then their wife leaves or they

02:22:45.360 scoot over and they act shocked men we can get divorced we can bounce back i've been married

02:22:51.280 before i've been divorced i can afford another divorce if i choose to get married again understand

02:22:56.480 i'm saying so like exactly the thing marriage is just if you decide to get married which most guys

02:23:03.120 will there's no excuse be like i can't believe she did that why not there are half the married

02:23:10.400 men out there there are men who who get screwed just make sure that you count for all the variables

02:23:16.400 if you choose to do it that's all i'm saying but there's ways like there's ways to maneuver things

02:23:21.840 to where that you mitigate the risks i agree like you know put all your assets in a trust before you

02:23:28.080 even get married all right an irrevocable trust and then put you know get an llc and then pay

02:23:33.760 yourself from the llc now the business owns your your finances the trust is secure all your assets

02:23:41.360 are secure in the trust so then you get divorced oh well what is she getting i um i want to give

02:23:46.720 because david hasn't really had a lot of time to talk so i wanted to give him a little more time

02:23:50.240 to finish this thought go ahead i just think if you care about body count you're just you're like

02:23:56.560 you shouldn't even care because they're all hoes all women are hoes bro and like a good example is

02:24:02.160 bro who's married up here like bro you're married another man had your woman before you you're

02:24:07.840 literally a cuck brother you're a cuckold i've had other women before her so like what is your plan

02:24:15.840 no i'm talking about dude who was a virgin dude who's a virgin until marriage and then he's he

02:24:21.200 got with a woman who had other men before him and he's like oh i'm a winner how does that make him

02:24:27.360 you're not a winner you're a cuckold bro dude's like you're gonna be forever alone i want to know

02:24:33.680 i want to know you can keep laughing i'm laughing right now i'm gonna keep laughing

02:24:40.400 i just want to know like how by what definition does that make him a cut is it too soon to ask

02:24:45.360 another man was inside his woman before he was but you said all women are hoes right so then

02:24:51.820 therefore you should always assume that there's always been another penis insider right and now

02:24:56.720 there's no more penis insider but yours so how does that occur because a cuckold is somebody

02:25:00.560 that's raising a child that's not his under the impression that it is his so how is he a cuck

02:25:05.940 he's a cuck because another man had his woman before he so if he should have only married a

02:25:12.960 virgin so any guy that got with the girl you shouldn't have gotten married at all bro we don't

02:25:16.420 i don't tell guys to get married i tell you guys to stay away you sleep with girls do you sleep

02:25:20.560 with guys or girls and if you sleep with girls do you sleep with girls who are virgins or who

02:25:23.900 aren't virgins and if they're not a virgin do you kiss why do you care why does it matter or not

02:25:28.300 why does it what your logic your logic makes you a too no it doesn't i'm not married i'm not taking

02:25:35.120 care of a girl who has other men i'm not taking care of you you got dick breath bro bro you had

02:25:40.780 other girl who sucked another bit oh my gosh that means everybody is always going to be a

02:25:48.540 no sir that's wrong because i'm not taking care of this woman i might sleep you're appealing to

02:25:54.140 her to get get her in bed with you so then you are no i'm not that's your strategy brother that's

02:25:59.660 your strategy i don't know to women to get them to sleep with me bro i don't need to do that

02:26:04.060 this is such low iq you said that if another man's penis has been inside of your girl you're a

02:26:09.420 cuck that was your largest and then you marry her wait wait wait wait but i don't take care of her

02:26:14.540 i don't take care of her i don't give her anything i'm the real winner you're not you're not the

02:26:20.940 real winner if you're not taking if you're not taking care of your wife then why are you even

02:26:24.860 married i do that that's a logical fallacy right there that makes no sense you're proving my point

02:26:30.860 for me yeah like you're literally proving my point for me you're taking care of a woman who's had so

02:26:35.820 what is your strategy now are you going to what is my strategy yeah going forward looking at the

02:26:40.700 rest of your life are you going to why do you care about me so much this isn't i'm curious about you

02:26:44.940 we're on a panel we're talking about each other i want to know what your plan is what oh what my

02:26:48.860 plan is yeah what are you going to do are you going to cuck up or you can forever alone that's

02:26:52.460 my plan i don't have any other plans outside of that i didn't hear what you said my plan is to

02:26:57.180 get filthy rich i don't care about women bro i don't i try to appeal to women all right well

02:27:05.820 out let's say you reach that level what is that what what does that get you what does the filthy

02:27:11.580 rich get you it gives me everything i want bro i get a warm bed to sleep in i get food

02:27:19.260 all right so i have all that and your legacy dies that's embarrassing because like

02:27:25.820 let's have the quorum guys okay let's have the quorum let's have the quorum let's have the quorum

02:27:30.460 everybody let's have a little bit of a chill yeah let's have the quorum go ahead

02:27:38.300 um yeah like you're a millionaire you already hit that goal you're filthy rich how does that

02:27:44.220 how does it solve all your problems it doesn't you just have more problems i think i think

02:27:48.940 what he's trying to say though is like you can't you're not in control of your bloodline because

02:27:55.260 if you have a kid the odds are your kids aren't going to have kids like because the birth rates

02:28:00.220 like 1.6 right now and it's not going to get better like there's people born i think it was

02:28:05.660 bach he had 10 kids he has no living descendants 200 years later so you're not even in control of

02:28:10.860 that right i don't really like i don't really i don't from you at any moment she can just wake

02:28:15.980 up one day oh i don't love him anymore yeah yeah but if you but my point is more like i'm gonna

02:28:21.580 just i'm gonna just back him up a little bit here and the other thing is it's very much up to the

02:28:26.620 discretion of the judge because i've had interviews with guys and like i mean there's nothing they

02:28:31.900 could do they got a feminist judge you should interview me sometime i had a fantastic divorce

02:28:36.220 sure i'm also confused about this dichotomy is that supposed to be like a selling point

02:28:40.460 to my guy is that supposed to be something that like manners you could have you could have you

02:28:46.140 could have had a really good divorce but it doesn't really minimize the guys that like lose

02:28:50.140 their kids every year my point my point is that there's no there's always in any divorce there's

02:28:54.140 gonna be a loser and it seems to be the attitude of like douchebags like this that it's always the

02:28:59.180 guy but it's not always the guy it's majority of the time it is though it is yeah no the whole

02:29:05.020 point is guys that have gotten destroyed like yeah and i still got the question why why do we

02:29:11.740 why do we draw this dichotomy of that either you got to get married or you're going to be alone

02:29:15.500 forever like yeah bro i hate that i've been in mostly long-term relationships a lot of which

02:29:20.780 have lasted longer than some of my friends marriages so so i i when i when i ask about

02:29:25.980 marriage when i speak about marriage i guess i'm assuming that long-term life you know relationships

02:29:30.940 does count whether or not you got the piece of paper in my mind ltr ltr because flow is an ltr

02:29:38.620 yeah i would advise not to get married on paper um do it through the church like like um this

02:29:44.620 dude up here said covenantal marriage have your money in the trust you know there was this guy

02:29:49.580 i talked to when i was 15 he was an architect in california and he told me he got a divorce and

02:29:55.260 she owed him money even though he was a uh a well-off architect in la because he his mom owned

02:30:02.220 owned his business and he lowered his pay um and he kept low pay listen guys there's tons of ways

02:30:08.300 to hide your books there's a lot of different ways you can do it um this is how you beat the system

02:30:14.380 and uh there's a lot of successful men who have done it and the women can't really touch them and

02:30:19.100 mess with them it seems like they can but uh i've seen a lot of times they can't hey brother i'll

02:30:25.660 say i'll say this brother i'll say this i i kind of feel bad for you because i i really predict uh

02:30:31.740 uh like you know i've been quiet over all pro just listening i really predict bro you're gonna have a

02:30:37.420 crash out uh divorce man you're gonna be in bad shape in two three years bro i feel really bad

02:30:43.580 for you i really really do and i'm not joking man based on based on everything the way he's talking

02:30:50.460 about i feel i feel really girl listen listen yeah i've been quiet i've been quiet but uh yeah

02:30:57.180 we're gonna have a really really really bad time brother but hey man that's that's your decision

02:31:03.660 that's what you made brother most men want that they want to be wrecked they want right

02:31:09.500 it takes two divorces for them to actually wake up because they yeah they want to be lied to they

02:31:14.800 want to believe i agree this woman that's had other dudes before me she's going to be loyal

02:31:18.820 to me and only love me especially once i give her the sex and i give her the kids the guy with that

02:31:23.360 you know isabel louis husband you just have to realize that like you're i'm not saying anything

02:31:29.220 bad about your dynamic but the fact that you were a virgin and your wife wasn't that's kind of

02:31:33.780 that's not conventional so there's always going to be some kind of pushback i think it's good

02:31:39.320 that you because i think that kids should be born in the context of a marriage i think that you're

02:31:44.160 better to have had a kid in a marriage and gotten divorced at least you're trying to raise a child

02:31:49.400 in the best context of having children if i were to i don't want children but if i if i were to

02:31:55.020 ever have children i would try to get married to have children at least give that a chance

02:31:59.380 so like but you have to understand that your dynamic is uncommon and unconventional i'm not

02:32:04.980 saying it's bad or good but like you know because everyone knows knows about the male dating

02:32:10.120 strategy and and how men will want to sleep with a bunch of women but then women want to lock down

02:32:16.040 it's just that whole dynamic and your dynamic is just so unconventional that's what it is

02:32:21.160 i'm not there you can do what you want to do you can do what you want to do brother but don't don't

02:32:26.140 try to sell that shit to other men that's where i get pissed off is don't try to sell that shit

02:32:30.020 to real dudes like me because we're not buying what makes you a real dude real man we're not

02:32:34.000 hey dude i love it i would say this josiah man josiah like you know yeah i am just like in every

02:32:40.620 relationship if you are not leveling up if you're not maintaining that position in your woman's eyes

02:32:45.720 then yes you will risk you know any guy would risk her losing interest or losing uh confidence in him

02:32:52.140 being the best choice but if you maintain being the best option that she always sees because

02:32:57.600 you're putting in the work leveling yourself up for you then you're always your game is good

02:33:02.180 you're going to be you're in a much better position than anybody else would be that's how you look at

02:33:06.220 it and all of that's a fallacy let me tell you something if you say oh you're an alpha you're

02:33:13.580 this your dad you're this and the third make sure that she gets bored we all get bored that's the

02:33:18.480 that's the that's the big thing it doesn't matter i mean you you're basically saying that you have

02:33:22.760 do springboards and cartwheels for the rest of your life man where do you get that listening to

02:33:29.880 i said if he maintained leveling up for himself achieving just keep on moving up not getting

02:33:37.320 stagnant not getting complacent right if he's putting in the work day in and day out and she

02:33:43.400 sees that he is the best option that she has every day then she will have he has a better choice

02:33:50.200 when he has a better chance but just in general like and i've never said anything was guaranteed

02:33:56.440 i don't okay i would say we've got a good guys stop interrupting pearl please

02:34:04.040 interrupting pearl everyone stop talking okay like because the the one thing glenn is everyone

02:34:10.440 pretty much everyone we know it's like they end up getting divorced so can i make a point a quick

02:34:16.200 point yeah you can go in a second but okay um sorry when i get interrupted it kind of throws

02:34:22.280 with her train of thought but my my whole point is that like the the rate it's just not good like

02:34:28.440 most wives get fat most of them end up divorcing the husband over a long period of time um and

02:34:34.600 someone said that like you can get put the woman on alimony and get but only 10 of alimony goes to

02:34:40.600 women so it's just not the norm because men make more money um i mean that's true david go ahead

02:34:48.040 okay so a lot of guys think that like oh because i'm leveling up or because i'm um i'm making more

02:34:54.360 money or i'm doing this for her or i'm i'm placating to her desires and her needs that

02:35:00.360 she's gonna love me forever if i just keep doing this and that and i just stay on the hamster wheel

02:35:05.560 bro that's not how it works it's actually you made a mistake you made a huge hold on hold on

02:35:10.360 hold on let me finish so women women women need something to fix they always look for guys where

02:35:17.240 it's like there's something wrong like we need something they need something to fix if you're

02:35:21.400 the most guy on paper you're going to get raked over the coals especially in something like

02:35:26.040 marriage because all you're doing is you're running on a freaking hamster wheel for her

02:35:30.520 and she sees that every day and familiarity breeds contempt so like that's what dudes are missing

02:35:37.240 they think oh if i just keep in the gym and i just keep doing this and that and i keep appealing to

02:35:42.120 her desire then it's going to work out great for me that's not how it works bro that's not how it

02:35:47.560 works listen stop i heard you i heard you run your mouth your biggest mistake was you said

02:35:51.720 you're doing it for her i never said one you can't you gotta let me run the show okay

02:35:57.800 I love you, but you got it. I was going to give Josiah a chance to talk, but I was going to let

02:36:05.300 you go. All right. I'll let you back. Okay. Go ahead. That's a good point. Familiarity does

02:36:12.460 breed contempt. Something to do for this is keep on moving, moving around. I think the reason why

02:36:21.820 isabella and i for the first three years of our marriage so far it we you know it's been um

02:36:28.460 pretty smooth relatively smooth um despite this kind of like the boxing era and i think part of

02:36:35.820 the reason why is because we've moved so much you know we started out in dallas then we moved to

02:36:39.980 arizona moved again to another place in arizona then lived in dc soon we're going to be moving

02:36:44.940 to south carolina like we're constantly switching up our environments and changing where we're

02:36:50.140 surrounded and who we're with um and that creates a you know there's no familiarity there to some

02:36:56.460 extent like with our surroundings and our environment but there's always going to be

02:36:59.660 familiarity that's that root word family too right um so yeah i mean it's a it's a it's a

02:37:06.380 good point that you do have to take into consideration for sure okay glenn do you want to go

02:37:13.580 yeah i was like saying like again at the end of the day what he said you were doing all this

02:37:17.900 placating and leveling up for her that's not what you should be doing that's not what you should be

02:37:23.820 doing the leveling up for yourself because you should have enough you know pride and it's no

02:37:29.900 it's not a coat that's a coat it's not a coat it is whatever you say because at the end of the day

02:37:35.660 guys are controlled by sex that's what it comes down to no no guys that are weak are controlled

02:37:40.300 by sex guys that are weak are controlled by sex are you saying that you have a lot of weak dudes

02:37:46.300 out there bro yeah i'm gonna look around i do know that there's a lot of weak dudes out there

02:37:50.700 and the weak guys are the ones that say the same thing that you say but guys that are confident

02:37:54.540 they know with their self they're not weak they don't they could deny women you know how many

02:37:58.460 guys deny women because those women he didn't want to be with them there's a lot of guys that deny

02:38:02.380 women but he's denying women that's what i'm saying because he has the option to why because

02:38:08.140 he's leveled up and he has the option he can pick and choose who he wants to have in his life but

02:38:13.020 you just said that he was weak what no no i said guys that are have that mindset that he has are

02:38:20.060 weak the one that said they have to placate to women yes that's weak but dave has been on the

02:38:24.140 show before like i know his background like he he's doing very very well for himself dude has a

02:38:30.780 lot of options but he's he he's not out here committing to these women he's been on the show

02:38:37.340 before you you don't know him but i do and it's the mindset that is weak that mindset

02:38:43.900 that's what that's what messes dudes up is you you but commit so easily okay like for example

02:38:49.020 like dude who was virgin before he met his wife who had other men before him so how long did you

02:38:56.140 even know her until you got married probably less than two years i would bargain can we stop making

02:39:02.060 this personal um yeah i know but seriously like it matters like you've probably known her for what

02:39:07.500 like two years bro you barely know this you don't even know this obviously since being married um

02:39:13.020 in total we've i've known her for about four and a half years oh that's nothing dude that's nothing

02:39:19.180 okay blink of an eye bro yeah yeah you're signing away your entire life to someone you've known for

02:39:24.620 four years that's crazy to me no like i said i don't care how well you like yeah like i said

02:39:30.300 We got married through the church. There's no legal documentation. Isabella also has signed

02:39:42.320 contracts and everything like that. People can say that they might not hold up in court or whatever,

02:39:47.900 but she's told me that she's submitted to me and that she's going to stay with me for the rest of

02:39:53.840 my life. Listen, bro, you can say that doesn't mean shit. It's a mindset. You have to be walking

02:39:59.360 in that mindset you have to be disciplined the other thing is too right um i'm guessing you're

02:40:03.760 not a christian but in the bible whenever you believe uh in the bible it says all things in

02:40:08.640 christ are a new creation i really like that because isabella has a past um and guess what

02:40:15.920 she became a christian we got married um and now she's a new creation in christ not everybody

02:40:20.800 believes that it's okay they don't have to but that's something that i abide by and it makes it

02:40:24.880 much easier because it's not like i really have to care about who she was before it's like our

02:40:30.320 life has started now you know um and hey you guys are gonna say this is all gonna me over

02:40:36.080 we'll see um i don't i hope it doesn't bro i i honestly hope you have a great marriage

02:40:41.120 but like the odds aren't in your favor and the odds aren't in my favor the odds aren't in

02:40:44.880 anybody any man's favor so like why would you encourage men to like do these types of things

02:40:50.160 like what you should be doing instead is encouraging them to like like spend time with

02:40:55.200 these women and actually vet them but we don't ever talk about vetting women ever and like and

02:41:00.240 also also remember like i said before men we are creatures of action okay if a guy is gonna shoot

02:41:08.480 pro says it all the time you can't stop a simp for from simping if i'm not i'm not calling you a

02:41:15.440 what i'm saying is that's true if a guy if a guy wants to get married he's going to do it and you

02:41:20.800 can't stop him okay yep if he if josiah is aware of the risks involved and he's calculated it

02:41:28.160 well then i'm fine with it i just don't like to make this decision and they're like oh my god i

02:41:33.680 can't believe guys the information is out there men are going to act no matter what if josiah has

02:41:39.520 has calculated the risk he has his family and he and he he he can get ready for what comes

02:41:47.200 well then more power to him and that's the that's the solution the real solution one is not to live

02:41:52.780 in fear of women but put yourself in the position to the where that if you choose to take the risk

02:41:57.540 and you take an l that you are fine it's not that big of a loss because you put yourself in a

02:42:02.300 position to where that you are not dependent upon you know whether or not she stays or not

02:42:07.600 that's about that's the whole point of leveling up to where you could take these risks and and

02:42:11.920 it not be such a uh detrimental you know hit that you're gonna suffer from yeah so if it doesn't

02:42:18.240 matter then why make the commitment anyways like why do you have it's it's i think i say if you're

02:42:24.640 not a christian or you don't have a religious faith then don't get married but if you're gonna

02:42:29.600 get married make sure that it's because you you do this for your religious faith and then don't

02:42:34.480 trying to please god now we're trying to please god instead of many people in religion like

02:42:40.880 marriage is a sacrament so that's why they would glenn we've been going for about two hours

02:42:46.320 45 minutes so we're gonna wrap the show up yeah yeah that's cool hey it was cool talking to y'all

02:42:53.280 yeah thanks um thanks for coming on guys but i had to drop off the panel there's just too many

02:42:58.800 voices um um but i appreciate the back and forth if you guys want to plug your channels go ahead

02:43:07.440 um not glenn lawrence just find me at glories presents david i would love to actually have a

02:43:11.520 conversation have this back and forth with you continue later on sometime because i find it

02:43:15.360 interesting bro i've got some i've got the newest ideas on all this on all this relationship stuff

02:43:20.320 because i come from a different era but i'm also gen z like i'm 28 so like but i also grew up in

02:43:26.080 an era where there wasn't technology there wasn't like i have seen both sides of it and bro the

02:43:31.760 the amount of just like cognitive dissonance that i see with men today is just mind-blowing

02:43:36.880 like it literally stresses me out bro yeah right come by my channel we'd love to have you on

02:43:42.000 sometime thank you pearl for having me on uh josiah pleasure meeting you um talk to you guys

02:43:47.120 later thanks for coming on um josiah do you want to go next uh sure um yeah thanks for having me

02:43:54.400 on pearl thanks for having on isabella of course um isabella's great man i'm not gonna plug but

02:44:00.560 pearl i want the rating you have to rate our me and isabella's marriage where do you

02:44:04.800 is it gonna work out is it not give it your rate

02:44:10.880 um you gotta be careful no you gotta be honest you're even asking that question

02:44:16.880 i would say i like isabella but if i had to go on the patterns usually virgin guy non-virgin

02:44:24.320 woman it predicts divorce okay to go on the patterns i do like isabella so i hope you guys

02:44:33.760 i think you guys are a good looking couple you're cute together but yeah i don't i predict divorce

02:44:38.960 for like 90 of people so i'd probably predict that for you guys too awesome all right see you guys

02:44:47.920 that's what they want pearl they want to be wrecked like that's what i'm starting to realize

02:44:51.520 is like these guys want to be wrecked they want i don't i think some of them it's just like they

02:44:57.200 they see the risk and they just want to try it yeah they want to be they want to you know what

02:45:02.400 i mean it's just like i don't think i don't even think you're necessarily like dumb for giving it

02:45:08.160 a go i mean yeah i i wouldn't recommend it but you know some guys it's like their religion you know

02:45:15.760 it's important to them yeah i i i don't personally like see the difference i think it's just a title

02:45:23.760 like your actions speak louder but yeah yeah and david um you gotta as you get older because you

02:45:32.880 how old are you you're 28 right like you you're gonna see a lot of guys even your friends i'm

02:45:37.840 never getting married like right around 30 35 between the family pressure the religious pressure

02:45:44.080 i want to have a family you're gonna see about 50 of your friends get married dude like my parents

02:45:51.360 want me to get married you can't my parents are like pushing it on me and i'm like no because

02:45:55.840 absolutely i recommend men don't get made like most of my friends have been so just make sure

02:46:02.960 that you're there for them when it all falls apart and and in divorce men make more money and gain

02:46:09.440 more worth women don't and that's it yeah and i don't even mean to come down on dude too hard

02:46:14.240 it's just like bro like that's the only way i see like getting through to people is being like bro

02:46:20.000 do you really think you won by getting with a girl who's had other men before you and you haven't

02:46:26.080 even like but i digress we'll wrap it up um okay black ice my wife is a female version of andrew

02:46:34.720 Wilson and I'm an atheist. We have been married for 16 years with three daughters. The wife is

02:46:39.420 from Russia. I'm from New York. She's also eight years younger, 43 and 35. Peter Paul,

02:46:46.400 all what paths with women would advise your sons. I should have said it's also going to depend how

02:46:52.180 well he does in his career if the divorce comes. So I would say. Okay. Well, thanks for coming on

02:47:01.180 again i appreciate it yeah come on anytime david you're awesome yeah um i gotta figure out how to

02:47:06.800 moderate these a little better my voice is just not deeper than 10 men you know what i mean yeah

02:47:12.480 i can see why it'd be hard okay thanks for coming on um well final thoughts doug mpa that took a

02:47:23.180 left turn at the end yeah you know i always say so i think that women need to have a hope

02:47:30.920 phase because the type of guys that they're going to want to be with ain't waiting for sex

02:47:34.840 so they should keep it quiet and freaking throw it back to the guys that they want because

02:47:40.880 eventually one's going to pick them and guys i say don't get married but once again most guys

02:47:46.420 are going to get married because men are men are creatures of action but guys don't be one of those

02:47:52.680 guys where most of you guys are going to get divorced and i don't want to see you in the

02:47:56.820 front camera of your car uh of your phone in your car crying to tiktok or instagram you know exactly

02:48:03.460 what's going to happen if you choose to get married i say don't do it but too many of you are

02:48:08.020 i mean i'd say i'd say if you're gonna hoe try to hoe for your husband um but most women aren't

02:48:15.780 going to have a 100 callback rate so it's probably going to turn into a hoe phase um depending on

02:48:23.060 what you consider a hoe phase um if you're pretty hot maybe you could wait till marriage but if

02:48:27.960 you're not i don't think most men are gonna buy um shiv do you want to have any final advice for

02:48:33.660 people final thoughts yeah i mean look at the end of the day like i think every guy just has to know

02:48:41.460 what risks they're going into and if you're willing to take the risk i think doug said it

02:48:44.640 best like you just don't get to complain the only reason why we bring up red pill stuff is giving

02:48:49.000 guys all the information and presenting a real honest look of what you're getting yourself into

02:48:53.660 and if you want to do it do it uh but then don't be surprised later uh if the odds don't go in

02:48:58.460 your favor right yep there you go that's simple yeah make sure you can afford a divorce if you

02:49:04.420 get married all right guys thanks so much for watching we appreciate it like the video

02:49:09.820 subscribe and we'll see you next time have a good one

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