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- August 28, 2025
Does Fat Shaming ACTUALLY Work Or Is It Just A Myth?
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17 minutes
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Word Count
3,410
Sentence Count
6
Misogynist Sentences
5
Hate Speech Sentences
9
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so it's not like i i spend my nights thinking about fat people it's the internet you make fun
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of things it's a show it is what it is however what is annoying to me is that it will become
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somebody else's problem then i will i don't think that fat shaming helps anyone lose weight
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and i think we lose weight the way that helps so much it helps so much sorry it helped you eva
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oh my god fat shaming was the only way i lost weight i tried to lose weight for years i went
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off and on with it and did all sorts of things and then hannah started tweeting being like i
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told my sister to walk on a treadmill i said okay i'm gonna go walk
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if it's the first time in my life i actually lost weight and actually kept it off yeah she looked
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great eva i'm gonna ask you there like i said earlier my parents used to say that i would
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spend more time trying to more time and effort trying to not do my chores than to actually do
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them when i was younger is it that way with like body positivity and weight loss where you see
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people spending more effort defending themselves being big or trying not to lose weight than just
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losing weight no because they don't have to defend themselves anymore because everybody just says plus
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size instead of saying you're obese cool okay all right i think it's interesting sorry go ahead i
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think it's interesting that you're from the same family and you have the same opinion on the fat
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shaming works for you it makes me wonder like when you grew up what was your household like in terms
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of like did you have like kind of an almond mom like do you know what i mean no do you know what's funny
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eva what used to be like a blue haired feminist like she used to have like blue hair and like she
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did not agree with any of this stuff so thank you for calling me out hannah thank you thank you for
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bringing up that very painful memory hey hey you're past it now but no i'm telling you no go ahead i'm
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just saying the majority of fat people are like that they try to defend themselves like i like i i
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live in colorado now and i'm telling you the people who i feel safest to talk to about what i believe
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are not fat they're not overweight they're not plus size whatever you want to call it
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i just i found that people who are bigger lean towards more like the feminism views and being like
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being big is okay and like it's just not there's there's almost no excuse for being fat that you
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can find even if you're disabled you can eat healthier and i know some of them still struggle
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to lose weight there's things that make it harder for them but there's just no excuse to be absolutely
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massive i think if that was true though there wouldn't be an obesity crisis if it was just that
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simple everyone would just be thin they'd be like oh well this doesn't make sense let's just be thin
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it's because people just know like i this is uh oh you you broke up oh no oh well i'm right anyway
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you broke up for a second it makes so many apps nowadays that you oh i said it's actually
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uh oh i think she's saying it's so easy because of the apps like i guess like my fitness pal and
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stuff no i'm telling you that gpp i'll die on this hill yeah there's no excuse to be overweight people
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just eat like shit and say i can't lose weight it's just not true as most of you know i have been
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that's c-h-o-q.com my name pearl is the discount code have you heard have you heard of vanity sizing pia
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uh yeah yeah what do you think of vanity sizing i think it's really annoying because all of my clothes
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are different in every different shop like um and like some shops don't carry a small enough size
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because like the extra small is like a small not an extra you know what i mean things like that it
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is annoying um and silly and i think it's apparent when you look at old clothes and stuff but i just
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think that people again like if people were more accepting of themselves things like that wouldn't exist
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because they wouldn't need to pretend that they're smaller to buy the clothes that they want i actually
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agree with you but why can't they just say i'm fat instead of gaslighting us to to think they're not
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fat but that's like if they just said hey i'm fat and i don't look good fat that's it like why does
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why does it have to have the end bit on why can't you look good fat well because that's delusional to
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think you do i mean you might look fat when you're young because you got like the youngness to you but
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when you're old and fat you're like you could still get laid as a young fat person
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when you're an old fat woman you're done cook yeah but if you're just talking about looks fading
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everyone's looks fade when they get old everybody's ugly and saggy and old and gross eventually yeah i'm
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gonna get i'm sorry not not as much i don't know i went to guys guys can hold on to it for a lot longer
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but um go ahead doug here's the way that i see the effort of defending yourself when you're fat and
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all the time it takes to do so so you know the the black community we come up with all these crazy
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names right we have women with apostrophes and all sorts of you know one of my friends named her
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daughter kyandria with an apostrophe and all sorts of extra ease and a's and stuff and and anyway so i see
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people where uh asian people come here and they have asian names but an office they'll just have
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you call them phil or alice because they know people won't be able to pronounce their name so why
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fight it every single day but my people american black people would give their son or daughter a crazy
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name and they'll spend their entire life correcting people on the name and it's like you only have so
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much energy in a day why do you just accept your name except the fact that people can't say your
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name like asian people do asian people are like look they're never going to be able to say my name
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call me phil move on where and that's what it is with body positivity you only have so much time and
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effort in a day why put yourself in a position where you have to defend that over and over every single
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day why i think that's an injustice though like i think people should always make an effort to say
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somebody's name i think that that's polite and civil
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yeah but it's real world you know you can't go into i know you know what i mean you can't go and
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like demand polite no that's just not realistic i know what you're saying but i still would be of the
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opinion that like i'm like well i would always make an effort to say someone's name correctly so
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why shouldn't everybody else in the same way that i don't think there's anything wrong with body
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positivity i think it's fine for people to be fine with the way they are and so i i don't see why other
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people should have such a problem with it okay so i'll tell you why i have a problem with it
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okay i'll give it to you so it's not like i i spend my nights thinking about fat people okay i don't
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really it's not like every day i'm just seething thinking about these fatties and wanting them to
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lose weight you know they you guys are not you anymore but they're fun to dunk on right but
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it's the internet you make fun of things it's a show it is what it is however what is annoying to
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me is that it will become somebody else's problem yes if you get old enough and you get fat enough
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there are going to be health issues and somebody is going to have to take care of you that's where
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it's either going to be your husband um your father your brother it will become somebody else's
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problem because you can't put the donut down or you don't get as much time with your kids
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so i it's not necessarily that you know i spend my nights thinking about fat people but i think it's a
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shame that we want to say you're okay how you are and celebrate it because this is killing people
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you know i know people that have died from being overweight so it would be the same to me as saying
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like oh you should be okay with being a heroin addict it's not like i spend my nights you know
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thinking about heroin addicts but when i see somebody say heroin positive i kind of look at them funny
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i know what i i understand exactly what you're saying and i don't disagree with you from that
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like health perspective i don't i don't agree with health at any size i don't think that should be
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put across anyway i do think that there needs to be some sort of address for like how society is so
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comfortable with everybody being overweight and i think the food is making us fat i think advertisers
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make us fat i agree with i think it was doug earlier saying that they should put more stuff
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on fatty foods and stuff like warnings like there are on cigarettes i agree with you but i still don't
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think going off at an individual is gonna help them to better themselves anyway like i just think that
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you should be able to be happy with who you are while being encouraged to better yourself well yes
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but i i still think even if you're doing your day-to-day stuff it becomes someone else's problem
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like i'll go on an airplane and there's some like i fly all the time i hate it when i have a fat
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person next to me yeah because you're spilling into my seat this isn't fair we get off the
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like you get off the plane and they're like wobbling they walk really slow and again it's not
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like i spend my days thinking about them um i'm just trying to get around them so i can keep walking
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but when you get enough of them it makes life just more annoying and then becomes someone else's problem
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does that make sense it's also like i hate when i have a tall person behind me and their knees are
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in my seat the seats are just too small like airlines yeah but a tall person can't control that
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that that's genetics i know just being tall fat is food yeah i i agree with you but i think there's a
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reason that people are so fat and i don't think it's directly their fault all the time but it's
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interesting because i don't understand how you could say that when you lost the weight do you know what i
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mean like because i don't know when i started tracking what i was eating i couldn't believe i wasn't
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fatter and i was like i should i for me it was like i didn't want to weigh my food i would rather just work
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out and i just i was always putting that off but it was my own fault um but yeah go ahead i think
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it's because i saw people's reactions to my weight loss and i realized how like kind of delulu people
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are generally about weight and weight loss and eating disorders and all of those things like there
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is a societal problem where people do not know what healthy is like people think because i don't eat
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like because i don't eat chocolate i don't eat chocolate generally if i have chocolate i will really
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want chocolate i have people push desserts on me all the time and they think it's weird that i won't
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have a dessert and it's like that is that's a societal problem at a certain point because why do
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you think it's so like odd that i don't want to eat that do you know what do you know what i'm saying
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like no i know what you're saying when you try to i have a friend who he you know it's funny you say
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shaving doesn't work but i've gotten two people to lose like 40 pounds but i do yeah there's a guy um
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i i went to england right when i came back he was my brother's friend and like i grew up with him and
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i came back and i'm like what happened man he was like 50 pounds heavier and i've worked out with him
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every day for like a year or something and now he's lost a bunch of weight but i went to his um
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family's house and the mom was in his ear saying like oh you shouldn't have to lose weight and i'm
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like he's he's trying so hard i see him every day he looks so good like why are you trying to fatten him
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up so i totally i actually really agree with you like fat people they always try to drag you down
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it's like they want you to stay i think eva didn't you lose a friend getting thin didn't you lose your
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fat friend or making that up there was more to it than that but that was part of the thing
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is that i actually gained so much weight being her friend because you just want to go eat out
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24 7 and like there'd be times we'd go to mcdonald's or something like like some fast food place
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and we would both get like a meal you know like they have the pre-made ones and like i wouldn't finish
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mine and she would finish it for me and i'm like how are you eating so much and then two hours later
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she'd be hungry again i'm like what the actual hell but that that to me sounds like addiction
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like i think a lot of people are addicted to food like if you want to get in two hours you're not hungry
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yeah the um i agree with the food addiction but that's how i hear it when i hear body positivity
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to me it sounds like addiction that's how i hear it it's like addiction positive food addiction
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positivity i have a question for for pia so you shouldn't shame people uh so the okay outside
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of shame the only time i've seen someone lose weight is is there is a there is a um an event
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that happens like i had a friend that gave a bunch of weight after she got married and she broke her leg
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she had never flown on a plane before so she's gonna fly from pennsylvania to california and she sat on
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the plane and she couldn't buckle her seat belt so she hit the little call button and she called the
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the flight attendant over and said i can't buckle my seat belt and the flight attendant was like oh
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you need a seat belt extender i'll be right back oh my god and and then of course the lady comes back
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holding the sepa extender like outstretched and two fingers like it's the nastiest thing ever and everyone
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saw it it was so embarrassing so she had to wear her first time on a plane she had to wear a seat belt
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extended on the way there and the way back and she lost 70 pounds after that so okay outside of a event
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and if you can't fat shame people how can you get them to lose weight like how would you communicate
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to a person that you cared about who's fat like how would you let them know yeah not a not a stranger
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but someone you love yeah i think you have to be really close to somebody to approach them about
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that kind of thing and i would ask them what was going on with them i think would be my first i
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would first come at it from a mental health point of view and be like are you like if i saw someone
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gaining a lot of weight for example not someone that hadn't been fat and i'm getting a lot of
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weight i'd be like are you okay like what's up in the same way i would if someone lost all the weight
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i'd be like are you like all right is that everything good with you and i think that's totally
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fair and i have had a lot of those like quite positive conversations when i lost weight as well
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that like i almost wish people had had with me when i was gaining the weight just been like hey you
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okay like there's nothing i could do you know what i mean like and i know pearl you're saying you shamed somebody
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into losing those weight but it actually sounds like you were really supportive of them and you
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worked out with them loads that's the kind of thing that i found really helpful when i was
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losing weight was people being genuinely supportive and being like oh do you want to go for a run
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together and stuff like that that was what was helpful to me what did i say to eva eva was the text
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i sent you oh no i just sent him a picture on the treadmill it was weird i said where are you
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should be on the treadmill yeah i said where you should be oh did you tweet that i think i remember
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seeing you tweet that i asked her i asked her if i could tweet it first i always ask i never just tweet
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the time yes i don't care i just thought like i know i know i'm fat people can
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you
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