Pearl - September 11, 2025


Former Sniper Explains How This Could Have Been A Professional Hit On Charlie Kirk

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Charlie Kirk Pearl Patel Crowder Trump Candace Owens Christmases Biden Lewis Doug
Modern Women Do Not Compare Against Men Charlie Kirk's Assassination Leaves a Lot of Questions Behind

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On the heels of the mass shooting at a pro-choice rally in Las Vegas, a gunman opened fire at a public speaking event and killed at least 20 people. On this episode of the podcast, we talk about the latest in the ongoing investigation into the shooting.

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00:00:00.000 I can't even show my face at one of these left rallies because they're crazy.
00:00:05.700 Welcome to the show, Terrence.
00:00:07.280 Thanks for calling in.
00:00:09.000 How are you doing, Pearl?
00:00:10.240 This is not a good day.
00:00:11.500 I'm pretty upset.
00:00:13.740 Yeah, I'm shocked.
00:00:16.360 I can't even believe it.
00:00:18.480 I'm not.
00:00:19.080 I knew this was going to happen, and it will happen again.
00:00:23.340 Really?
00:00:23.800 How did you know it was going to happen?
00:00:25.340 Like, you thought it was going to be Charlie, or did you just think somebody?
00:00:28.160 No, with the amount of pressure that's being put on by the Trump administration to clean up a lot of the garbage that's been going on for the past 15 years, and with the media hyping this up, and basically the media is fanning the flames of hatred and violence, it was just a matter of time before this was going to happen.
00:00:51.540 So do you think it was a professional hit?
00:00:53.800 Like, what's your take on who do you think did it?
00:00:55.580 All right, so I watched the footage.
00:00:58.520 It's very disturbing.
00:01:00.660 It was not a straight-on hit, in my opinion, because the spinal column was not involved.
00:01:06.180 Usually when a person is shot that high up in the spinal column, you get a ragdoll effect.
00:01:11.580 So it was, you know, it hit him on the side.
00:01:15.200 You could see the copious amounts of blood leaving his body, mainly because you have an artery and a major vein which feeds your brain, which consumes 20% of your energy and the majority of the oxygen that you breathe.
00:01:30.280 And as soon as I saw that, I knew he had less than a 5% chance of survival.
00:01:35.760 And, I mean, I'm not trying to speak ill or anything.
00:01:40.600 This is just the truth as I see it.
00:01:42.360 You can hear the crack of the round.
00:01:46.680 Now, from the audio that I've heard, because I looked at three different clips from three different camera angles, in my opinion, it was some type of 5.56 round, which is, you know, military.
00:02:03.160 You know, the AR-15 uses that, plus there's, you know, a lot of other weapons can use it as well.
00:02:11.340 More than likely, it was fired from an elevated position.
00:02:16.600 Now, do I think this is a professional?
00:02:21.840 Look, if it was fired with, if they fired the rifle inside of 300 meters, no.
00:02:28.340 Anyone can make that shot.
00:02:30.180 It's incredibly easy to do.
00:02:31.720 The only reason Trump didn't get his clock cleaned is he turned at the right time just so it hit his ear.
00:02:38.700 It didn't hit him in the face.
00:02:41.060 Because the 5.56 round does, it's a lot of damage.
00:02:47.380 It was designed to wound and create large wound cavities.
00:02:52.140 And that's what it does.
00:02:55.100 Now, from what I've heard, the shooter is still at large.
00:02:59.920 But there are cameras all over that place.
00:03:03.540 So we'll see what unfolds in their investigation.
00:03:07.740 I've already called my people, waiting on information.
00:03:11.780 I have individuals on the inside that, you know, I communicate with on the regular.
00:03:17.920 Well, how does that happen?
00:03:22.240 Because I know they worked with, like, what is it called?
00:03:26.900 The security?
00:03:28.180 It's like the really intense security that Trump uses.
00:03:31.220 Secret service.
00:03:31.980 Secret service.
00:03:33.060 How does, like, how did two guys, one get shot, one almost get shot in a year?
00:03:37.960 When they have the best security in the whole country.
00:03:42.300 That's, well, I'm going to be honest.
00:03:45.520 I mean, I was a sniper in the Army.
00:03:48.320 And hitting man-sized targets with a .308 rifle out to 1,000 meters was really not that big of a deal.
00:03:55.200 And it's really hard to lock down that kind of range, especially he was in a outside event.
00:04:04.640 There were standing buildings within, I believe, 200 or 300 meters from where he was speaking.
00:04:11.740 And to lock that down is really difficult.
00:04:16.240 And, yeah, I'm going to be honest.
00:04:18.660 These public speaking events are probably going to have to be moved inside because of this.
00:04:25.300 Because this is not going to go away.
00:04:26.940 This is going to continue.
00:04:28.400 That was my question.
00:04:29.580 He just answered it.
00:04:31.240 Yeah.
00:04:31.560 This is going to continue.
00:04:33.060 How do you secure a public event like that?
00:04:36.620 Like, is it even possible?
00:04:38.540 Not really.
00:04:39.880 No way.
00:04:40.300 Okay, that was my question.
00:04:41.220 Wow.
00:04:41.780 That's a good question, Doug.
00:04:44.400 So who do you think, like, if you would just speculate, what group do you think it was Democrats that were behind this? 0.95
00:04:53.460 Do you think it was, like, I was thinking potentially LGBTQ because they're just pretty mentally unstable. 1.00
00:05:00.000 Let's put everything in the scope. 0.82
00:05:04.220 Okay.
00:05:05.080 All right.
00:05:05.340 You have the Democrats or the upper echelon of what's going on.
00:05:08.700 They're the ones who passed the laws and allowed all of this craziness to take place.
00:05:13.960 All right.
00:05:14.180 Then you had BLM. 0.99
00:05:15.320 You have the, you know, loose, gay, butt-talking, queer community and all of their aspects down there. 1.00
00:05:20.680 Underneath them that were allowed to flourish, allowed to grow, were given a pass. 0.94
00:05:27.320 I mean, let's be honest.
00:05:28.680 If you have trans people in a school grooming children, that's a felony, and it was ignored under the Biden administration. 0.96
00:05:37.960 So you have this huge festering craziness that is taking place.
00:05:44.400 Because, you know, I track a lot of these mass shootings, and a lot of them are identified as trans and or are on the left.
00:05:52.940 And now, another trick that the left does is when you look at these mass shootings, they put them on the right.
00:05:59.820 They put the responsibility for the alt-right or the, you know, crazy right.
00:06:05.820 Look, the right-wing guys, we're not burning down cities.
00:06:09.240 We weren't doing any of the crazy stuff that's going on right now or has taken place in the past.
00:06:14.860 Yep.
00:06:15.620 Most of the conservatives, I consider myself center-right.
00:06:18.940 I am not a hardcore, you know, right guy.
00:06:21.240 But, you know, I go to a lot of the conservative functions, and I'm accepted and allowed to speak, and it is what it is.
00:06:32.280 I can't even show my face at one of these left rallies because they're crazy.
00:06:39.960 Lewis says the whole Western world is messed up right now.
00:06:43.460 Who do you think they're going to go after next?
00:06:45.580 Do you think it's going to be – my thought was actually Crowder or someone like that, like Candace Owens, Crowder, because those are all the big names.
00:06:55.480 Do you think it's going to be more people like that, or they're going to go after other types of conservatives?
00:07:00.660 Well, whoever's the easiest target, because human beings are lazy.
00:07:04.200 So whoever is – whoever exposes himself in public the most will probably get the biggest target on their back.
00:07:12.120 I mean, that's just the truth of it.
00:07:14.260 Do you think this is going to change people doing – because even me, I don't really want to do public debates anymore.
00:07:23.580 I mean, I don't –
00:07:24.780 Yeah, it's going to change the – it's going to change a lot of stuff.
00:07:29.140 Because I'm going to be honest, this is the beginning of troubling times, and it's going to go on for – it could go on for quite some time.
00:07:39.200 I don't know how long it's going to take, but, yeah, it's going to wind up in some serious violence.
00:07:45.900 Stand by.
00:07:46.280 I've got to turn my phone off.
00:07:47.520 And, Pearl and Terrence, here's the thing that these lefties don't understand.
00:07:53.060 Their people do public speaking events too.
00:07:55.680 I'm not saying that anyone on the right would do it, but they're setting a precedent.
00:08:00.060 Understand what I'm saying?
00:08:01.020 Yes, you're absolutely correct.
00:08:02.320 And, listen, there's a lot of angry young men out there who are pissed off at this, and they're the ones who are the hotheads.
00:08:09.960 And this could turn into a cascade of super craziness.
00:08:16.180 Now, I myself, I don't want to see any violence.
00:08:20.140 I mean, if I can go the rest of my life and not have to drop the hammer on any more human beings, I'll be a happy man.
00:08:26.340 But, you know, that's just the way it goes. 1.00
00:08:31.000 Oh, shit. 0.99
00:08:32.020 Look, there was a tweet. 1.00
00:08:33.440 Someone said the shooter was found.
00:08:35.360 I don't, I'm not seeing that.
00:08:37.180 They supposedly arrested an old guy.
00:08:40.540 No, that wasn't right.
00:08:42.420 Yeah, I don't think he was, he was the shooter.
00:08:46.000 Someone tweeted, Charlie Kirk is coming to my college tomorrow.
00:08:49.620 I really hope someone evaporates him, literally.
00:08:52.700 Let's just say something big will happen tomorrow.
00:08:55.080 Yeah, this is what needs to happen, is all of these people who are making tweets like this, or on Facebook, who are condoning this kind of stuff and cheering for it, we need to make them famous so everyone knows who they are.
00:09:07.780 The left has been doing this to us for years.
00:09:09.960 It's time to reverse the roles.
00:09:11.380 Oh, look at this.
00:09:12.280 There's a video here.
00:09:14.940 This one.
00:09:15.940 I'm seeing as it's coming in.
00:09:18.460 Eyewitnesses recorded someone on the roof where the shots were allegedly fired at Kirk.
00:09:23.800 Let's see.
00:09:25.080 If that shot is beyond 300 meters, it's a trained shooter.
00:09:28.840 Let's see.
00:09:29.540 Let's see what you think here.
00:09:30.700 You can see, right?
00:09:31.800 I can see it, yep.
00:09:33.140 Okay, yeah.
00:09:34.620 Pearl Patel posted at 621 p.m.
00:09:37.900 A suspect was in custody.
00:09:40.500 Yeah, let's catch Patel with the FBI.
00:09:43.000 Is that the other one, or is there a new one?
00:09:46.060 I'll look in a second.
00:09:47.040 Get right up.
00:09:48.180 I don't know.
00:09:48.780 You think he'd already be in place?
00:09:50.640 You would think that.
00:09:52.640 So there's somebody on the roof right there?
00:09:55.280 Just saying?
00:09:56.260 Sure.
00:09:56.720 He just ran from over there.
00:09:59.600 Where's my finger?
00:10:00.900 Well, from over there, ran in.
00:10:02.960 Yeah, you know what?
00:10:05.260 If you can go to a Google map and see if you could get an overhead view of that building
00:10:09.940 compared to where Charlie Kirk was standing, you can measure the range pretty easily.
00:10:14.920 Just real fast, check the private chat, because apparently the FBI director says that the
00:10:22.020 Charlie Kirk's fatal shooting, the subject is in custody.
00:10:27.700 Okay, let's see.
00:10:30.340 All right, FBI director says subject for Charlie Kirk's fatal shooting is in custody.
00:10:36.200 Wait a minute.
00:10:36.940 Oh, that's it?
00:10:37.800 It doesn't say anything?
00:10:38.360 Yeah, well, they don't have the details yet.
00:10:39.940 It's going to take time for that to come out.
00:10:41.640 Okay.
00:10:44.340 Like, this is great.
00:10:45.800 Like, I do, I run Redarkless.com to keep guys from committing suicide.
00:10:50.400 I am not for anyone getting hurt, killed, or maimed.
00:10:53.180 I really am not.
00:10:54.260 And this just breaks my heart that this happened.
00:10:57.720 Now, in regards to Charlie Kirk, there's a lot of things that he talked about that I
00:11:01.400 don't agree with.
00:11:02.820 But I would have loved to have debated him or at least spoke to him about it. 0.99
00:11:06.360 Not get violent or do crazy shit to the guy. 0.98
00:11:08.880 I mean, I just feel devastated for his wife and kids. 0.98
00:11:13.380 I mean, that's just a horrific loss.
00:11:16.860 I'm not going to name names, but I was told by someone close to Charlie that Charlie thinks
00:11:26.640 Israel will kill him if he turns against them.
00:11:29.760 That's another question. 0.91
00:11:31.100 Well, that is, you know, I'm going to be honest.
00:11:37.060 Mossad has been infiltrating this country at will for 50 years since, you know, the beginning 0.95
00:11:45.040 of Israel, 60 years.
00:11:47.800 And, like, I don't have anything against the Jewish religion or Islam.
00:11:53.120 I'm just sick and tired of paying for it with our blood and treasure.
00:11:57.980 That's it.
00:11:59.000 Oh, here.
00:11:59.940 Here, this picture, you can see better how far it is.
00:12:05.140 That's there.
00:12:07.380 Let's see a little better.
00:12:09.080 Mm-hmm.
00:12:09.400 Now, are those, let's see.
00:12:15.280 I want to see if there's better pictures on that because that's just what I'm seeing now.
00:12:19.120 Now, if the shot was beyond 300 meters, more than likely it wasn't a 2-2-3 or a 5-5-6 round.
00:12:26.040 It might have been something a little more, like, it could have been a 3-0-8 or a 6.5 Creedmoor
00:12:32.120 or a 6.5 PRC, which are very accurate rounds, and you can literally draw pictures with those
00:12:39.760 rounds out to 600 meters.
00:12:41.640 Like, you can shoot a smiley face.
00:12:43.780 That's how accurate those things are.
00:12:47.920 Look how crazy this is. 0.98
00:12:49.600 It says, maybe Charlie Kirk shouldn't have spent years being a hateful, demagogic fascist, 0.98
00:12:57.140 and this wouldn't have happened. 0.91
00:12:58.480 Maybe he should have taken some personal responsibility.
00:13:01.060 What is that person's name?
00:13:03.120 We should mention them and make them famous.
00:13:04.920 They have a blue check.
00:13:06.200 There it is.
00:13:08.460 Yep.
00:13:09.680 It's just...
00:13:11.140 You guys know that Charlie's wife and kids were at the event.
00:13:15.700 Yeah.
00:13:16.520 That makes it even worse.
00:13:18.700 Awful.
00:13:20.060 Yeah.
00:13:20.660 Like, if something like that were to happen to me, I'm an older gentleman.
00:13:24.680 My kids are grown.
00:13:26.820 You know, it is what it is.
00:13:28.080 But he was only 31, and he was...
00:13:31.860 You know, he had so many more holidays and Christmases to experience that he's never going
00:13:37.200 to get to see.
00:13:38.360 And he was just getting started.
00:13:41.520 Guys, Charlie Kirk, a guy like him, you know, congressman, senator, something like that.
00:13:49.500 You know, he was on his way.
00:13:51.060 He already had the connections.
00:13:53.880 He had put in a bunch of the work younger in life to set himself up for something great
00:13:58.240 when he was older.
00:14:00.640 Mm-hmm.
00:14:01.160 He just...
00:14:03.060 I just...
00:14:04.860 It's awful.
00:14:06.100 It is.
00:14:06.800 It is.
00:14:07.760 I don't know what to tell you, man.
00:14:09.080 You know, the thing is this, is everyone in that audience probably had a cell phone.
00:14:20.440 And I can tell you right now, the alphabet agencies are probably already contacting all
00:14:25.160 of the major cell carriers in that area, and they're flipping all their numbers.
00:14:30.040 They're going to know everyone who attended or was within an 800-meter radius of that issue
00:14:37.940 that took place with Charlie Kirk.
00:14:40.520 So it's just a matter of time before they run these people down.