Pearl - Hoemath Explains Why Mids Are The Biggest Thing Impacting The Dating Market

00:00:00.000 and she goes i used to do this and that and i was a stripper and threesome in college and 0.90

00:00:04.080 all that crap and then that's when we go oh no now i have to find a new one that's great

00:00:11.360 i need to pander once a week okay we have a special guest on um the man i'm so excited he's here um 0.97

00:00:21.120 the man the myth the legend we got ho math here to tell us how taylor swift won

00:00:26.880 welcome to the show ho math we are so excited to have you my book here good excited to be here

00:00:34.400 what's your book in the middle plug it i have a i have so many things to plug um yeah i'll just

00:00:39.760 keep it on camera hey good to be here i'm excited to be here too how you doing good so um i want to

00:00:46.640 hear your take on oh yeah how taylor swift won that's what i'm here for um i mean she's old and 0.86

00:00:52.800 ran through right so yeah i mean she just got up it's a status thing it's a status thing that's

00:00:58.960 what i really wanted to mostly talk about with regards to that is that whenever you see something

00:01:03.440 like this happen you hear women all over the world say see see you can still get you know age out and 0.68

00:01:10.400 end up with with a football player but you can be taylor swift and get old and end up with a football

00:01:16.240 player because status changes everything it's i i don't you know i don't have stats on this or

00:01:22.240 anything but i don't think that it is i think it's way less likely for an average 35 year old woman to 1.00

00:01:30.000 uh you know find the man of her dreams than it is for taylor swift to find a uh i don't even know

00:01:36.240 the guy's name a football player it was uh what's his name again travis kelsey travis kelsey yes okay

00:01:43.040 um i think it's when you get to that point of fame the fame is like a uh a bargaining chip that

00:01:51.600 most women don't have and that's something that uh when i was talking to mac and murphy a couple years

00:01:57.040 ago he uh made it a point to point out that people usually end up with someone at their same status

00:02:04.000 level like there's this myth that men will marry the uh the mcdonald's girl if she's 20 and she's pure 1.00

00:02:10.960 and everything and men are more like that but they still tend to marry someone from their

00:02:17.120 um their socioeconomic bracket someone who makes a similar amount of money and and it's a difficult

00:02:24.240 thing to understand because on the on the one hand the data does support that people tend to

00:02:31.200 uh marry people on their level and on the other hand like women do have a a chance to be younger 1.00

00:02:41.600 and outside of the socioeconomic status of somebody and end up with them but when you get up into these

00:02:46.880 higher levels everything changes like i'm in a higher level of status all of a sudden and it's

00:02:51.920 affecting my relationships and that's i'm nowhere near either of these people and it still it changes

00:02:57.920 like it chemically changes the way that things work so how has it changed it for you and is there

00:03:04.880 going to be a chart where you're going to explain this to women this week you got to get all the 1.00

00:03:12.640 tick tocks of the women saying that like oh it can happen for you queen yeah i gotta i've gotta dig all

00:03:18.640 those up because i i really do not think that i don't think that that means that if i could impress

00:03:24.480 one thing upon uh women is don't don't think that anyone's going to treat you like you're taylor swift 1.00

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00:05:14.240 what's that go ahead if we so we have a chart idea from earlier because we're talking about um uh okay

00:05:23.680 they're saying that taylor swift was passed around because she dated john may they have her whole dating

00:05:29.040 history right yeah but there's no way that she could have whored as much as i mean travis kelsey's 0.99

00:05:35.440 the nfl football player so like her hoarding doesn't even factor in because i mean he's he's a six foot

00:05:41.840 five chat so so he smashed a bunch of girls in high school college and he's been in in the nfl there's

00:05:49.200 no amount of whoring on taylor swift's in that can even come close to him being a football player and 0.56

00:05:55.360 being uh in the nfl so that actually makes her whoring not even like and yeah and and my other 0.77

00:06:07.120 point was she whored in a different industry so the whoring is lost because he doesn't know the guys 0.99

00:06:13.600 you know what i mean like if she dated 20 20 nfl players cooked yeah yeah 20 musicians he doesn't

00:06:21.360 he'll never meet him he's more alpha than all of her exes put together and i was thinking i was

00:06:29.760 thinking too that like there's got to be a body count thing because it's like one body that he knows

00:06:37.920 is the equivalent of 10 he doesn't know yeah well for the for purposes of discomfort sure but i mean

00:06:44.800 isn't it true that that everyone knows who she dated doesn't she have like a list of famous names

00:06:49.760 no totally but i'm saying it would be different like imagine if he knew if you have to run into

00:06:54.160 them yeah yeah and he was playing against them but because they're like people he's never gonna meet

00:06:59.680 i think it matters i think he he would overlook it more yeah i think that i mean yeah if you look

00:07:07.040 at the list of people like joe jonas jake gyllenhaal like travis kelsey could beat

00:07:13.200 three or four of them in a fight at the same time what's he worried about you know well it's not

00:07:19.440 i don't think that you're necessarily worried about people coming back it's just like

00:07:23.760 where have you been who have you been talking to you know it's it's just sort of a feeling for me for

00:07:28.640 me i don't know about you but for me when i'm dating someone and i get to that point i have a drawing

00:07:35.120 about this too i do have charts for everything let's go when we get to the to the you know what

00:07:48.080 has your past been like point let me see if i have a pointer here

00:07:53.840 you've got the let's go yeah you've got the part where you meet and then you typically the guy gets

00:07:59.120 attached faster men tend to get attached faster and then as the woman gets attached she usually 1.00

00:08:04.560 if she actually likes him will pass his level of attachment at some point and that's when she

00:08:09.360 spills all the tea and she goes i used to do this and that and i was a stripper and threesome in 1.00

00:08:14.160 college and all that crap and then that's when we go oh no now i have to find a new one that's great

00:08:24.160 and then we just kind of cool off and she doesn't know why and she's like why are you not texting

00:08:28.560 back as fast and eventually it cools off and you go like i've been through this a few times um

00:08:34.560 even recently since i since i started doing this like i had to learn how to talk to women differently 1.00

00:08:40.960 given that i have some level of fame now and uh and women will come after me and hide all kinds of crap 1.00

00:08:47.600 what did you change i guess you can't say it because then the women will 1.00

00:08:51.840 yeah they'll be able to use it they'll be able to use it as a bargaining

00:08:54.400 i just i go a lot slower than i used to uh i am a lot more um a lot more exclusive i ask a lot

00:09:04.160 more questions i don't give anything away like i used to really if i liked somebody if i liked

00:09:08.480 someone's energy i would go like yeah let's spend time together talk or whatever and now i kind of go

00:09:12.880 like who are you and what is this and you know what exactly how could this affect my life so it's like

00:09:19.040 like more like women typically you know you have to be much more defensive um because they will come 1.00

00:09:25.440 after it the uh the girl that i dated last year one of my fans a lot of girls reached out to me one

00:09:31.840 of them was actually pretty cool and i wanted to give it a shot and i knew before we started dating that

00:09:38.240 she did want to be famous also and i was like uh-oh but we talked about it and i i explained to her

00:09:45.760 like i can't just smack you in the middle of my brand and say now with girlfriend it's gonna tank 0.99

00:09:51.600 my brand and then no one will have anything and she said she understood but she sort of kind of like

00:09:57.200 crept in she was kind of trying to yoko ono me a little bit she kept kind of creeping in and saying 1.00

00:10:01.920 when's it my turn i was like you have to you have to create something that people want to see first

00:10:06.720 and then i will you know say hey my girlfriend does this um so like that those kind of things you have to 1.00

00:10:13.600 are what you have to understand if you have any level of status it's just it changes the entire

00:10:20.480 landscape that's what people don't understand so any any women out there thinking that taylor swift 1.00

00:10:25.440 getting it at 35 means you're going to you're not playing the same game when is she gonna um

00:10:32.560 get to the spill the tea point where do you think oh yeah now i think she probably did you 0.92

00:10:38.960 mean taylor swift yeah i think she how long have they been dating two years yeah they probably have

00:10:45.600 gotten to that point that usually happens within a couple of months besides didn't she sing about all 0.99

00:10:49.920 the tea didn't she yeah but guys don't really do background checks at all they're like oh she's hot

00:10:54.880 in here they guys don't look into women like yeah yeah i've that's i've i'm starting to do that now and

00:11:01.920 it's very difficult but like i don't know anyone who knows anyone they're all reaching out to me i

00:11:07.120 don't leave the house anymore but yeah i don't know it's hard to imagine what he would have done in

00:11:12.640 that like he just knows who she is right wait could you go back to the charts here i want to see the

00:11:18.480 other ones could you show them to me sure got a lot of them i'm trying to fill out that whole

00:11:25.120 section with different relationship progressions uh there we go this is the that was the one that

00:11:34.160 we went over the revealed past yeah and then there's the monkey branch where things are going

00:11:39.760 really well the girl gets bored and by the time she had finds a new guy and leaves the we are barely

00:11:46.320 noticing like we're like huh things have been weird for a while and then she just goes yeah i have i

00:11:51.120 switched to the next guy and then we slam into the floor and this is cope here and it takes a while to

00:11:56.320 recover from that it just says cope on the floor yeah and then there's the this is the situation ship

00:12:05.760 pattern which is um oh this is this is how men protect themselves uh we we stay even like instead of

00:12:15.760 getting all excited and saying oh maybe this one is the one that i'm going to keep right we just say

00:12:21.280 you know let's just stay right here and not get very connected and then what happens is one girl 0.99

00:12:26.640 yeah yeah one girl shows up and then she says what are we and you go we're not and that much and then

00:12:32.560 she leaves and another one shows up and then she leaves and the first one comes back and they're kind

00:12:38.080 of sometimes both in your life at the same time and sometimes they alternate and there can be more than

00:12:43.680 two at a time but the the total amount of like uh female investment into your life stays 1.00

00:12:51.120 pretty even you don't get your heart broken you don't get attached you don't give them too much

00:12:55.840 and they just kind of come back and leave and come back and leave and come i had one girl do this five 1.00

00:13:00.320 times how long would she stay each time sometimes it would be like two weeks and sometimes it'd be like

00:13:06.960 five months and was it like not the same after the first time it was the same for me that's that's

00:13:15.280 i forgot to say that like the like they're just not as attracted to her because they know she's

00:13:22.480 bad like doing something yeah i didn't ask i just didn't ask i was like yeah i don't know what you're

00:13:27.760 doing i don't really care you're not like this is not husband wife stuff but she would leave and come 1.00

00:13:33.200 back and she would write me a little note saying like i have to make better choices with my life and

00:13:36.800 i'm like that sounds that sounds terrific there are better choices than this i told her right from

00:13:42.320 the beginning like i do we're not going to date and you shouldn't try and then she said um i'm going

00:13:47.680 to take a shower and come over to your apartment i was like jesus what do i do about that but i just say

00:13:53.360 no you're not going to say no it's very hard to say no they know that you're not you're not get like

00:14:00.000 come on like of course he's gonna say yeah yeah it's very hard to say no to that and then and then about

00:14:05.200 two months later like right about this point she said you know the what are we like oh it just seems

00:14:10.640 like we're wasting time and i said yes we are wasting time we agreed on that two months ago

00:14:15.920 and uh yeah it gets it gets weird out there what was her so what did you find out since like dating um

00:14:23.680 being like a public figure and stuff what's been different for you and then what did you find out

00:14:28.960 during the like talking after the investment stage what uh what's what was the second thing talking

00:14:34.800 after the investment stage what what is information you found you didn't know up front that made you

00:14:40.640 go oh yeah okay i'll tell you one of those things oh my god it's it's absurd so um what's mainly

00:14:47.680 different is a lot of women will message me and they'll say they'll some of them are crazy and they'll 1.00

00:14:53.040 say that they're in love with me and they know we're meant to be together even though they haven't

00:14:55.920 seen my face and um and those are like it's nice to get attention but i don't need that kind of

00:15:01.760 attention one of them talked to me for a few months and she seemed perfectly sane and so i like did some

00:15:07.680 facetime with her and she immediately she had uh uh bpd like she was on fire it was the worst i've ever 0.99

00:15:15.440 seen like she was idealizing me and saying that i was going to be the best thing ever happened to her

00:15:20.640 while she was also telling me that she her boyfriend was in jail and all kinds of horrible

00:15:25.920 mistakes that she was making and i said i don't think this is for me and she started screaming and

00:15:29.680 i had to hang up it was like for three months she seemed normal and then i gave her a chance to talk

00:15:34.880 once and it was bad bad show are you ever afraid that if you facetime a woman that she's gonna screen

00:15:42.000 recorded or something like that yes i am afraid of that i do um i wait until i don't really know what

00:15:51.920 measure i'm using but i wait until i feel safe and i've facetimed with a few of them and they've you

00:15:57.840 know they haven't done anything they were i think i'm a good enough judge of character to keep that um

00:16:04.400 under wraps so yeah i have to be afraid now that women are going to lie more um specifically about 1.00

00:16:11.760 how much they like me because up until um homeath every time i would date a woman it would be like

00:16:18.960 she either saw my picture on a dating app or she knew me from somewhere in real life or something

00:16:23.280 like that and and there's not very much doubt that they like you when that's the case but when they're

00:16:28.800 just flooding into your inbox and you have status it's like how much of how much of them liking me

00:16:36.560 is the status and that's true for uh travis and um and taylor as well is it travis kelsey yeah do you

00:16:43.280 think that women can't even tell when they like a guy because of the status yes exactly that's exactly 0.99

00:16:50.000 it it's it's on uh on zones i'm trying to point this out it's a it's a pretty fine point it's a

00:16:55.760 difficult point to make i'm such a fan i love these yeah they're very they're very fun um the women the

00:17:03.360 stuff that women say they like is all here they will tell guys like i want flowers and i want you 0.97

00:17:08.560 to treat me nice and you know don't cheat on me and everything and that is all the stuff that gets

00:17:12.960 you good guy points that's what women will say they like all the stuff that they actually like that makes 1.00

00:17:17.520 them you know sexually interested in you they don't talk about this dotted line here is the the public

00:17:23.920 private line so this stuff is buried so deep in the subconscious that women don't they don't even 1.00

00:17:29.280 talk about it so when they say i want a guy who they'll say this stuff and what they mean is i want

00:17:35.280 a an attractive guy who so then men will get confused and they'll do this stuff thinking that

00:17:41.760 it'll make them attractive and it doesn't it just makes them like uh simps basically um

00:17:50.560 i might not be able to stay long today i had a point i was making i can't remember it

00:17:54.480 what were we talking about um the fame like women can't tell if they like oh yes yes yes exactly that 1.00

00:18:00.480 was the whole point so yeah they they feel attraction but they don't know which one it is

00:18:06.240 they don't know which which direction it's coming from especially if they're young and not experienced

00:18:10.800 they don't know themselves that's why understanding the subconscious is such a big part of what i do i talk

00:18:16.880 about consciousness and about subconscious um behaviors and wants and needs and the differences between men and

00:18:23.200 women and women and women will say things things will come out of their mouth that they don't know 0.98

00:18:29.600 which part of them it's coming from so yeah a lot of these girls who reach out to me they think that

00:18:34.640 they actually like me and i have to keep telling it it's it's so hilarious there's nothing that you can

00:18:39.520 say i keep telling them you probably won't like me if we hang out you only know me from my content

00:18:45.600 i am not my content and they go no i'm sure of it so they have a feeling so the feeling is true

00:18:50.480 yeah and i think some women like i think that's why a lot of the nba players divorce 1.00

00:18:57.040 like after they're famous yeah because the fame goes away and they're like now he's not a superstar

00:19:02.720 he's not in the middle of the court yeah like do i actually even like this guy yeah i just liked

00:19:08.000 the fact that he had yeah all the power and status i'm gonna i'm gonna miss that actually um just being

00:19:14.240 just a guy with a t-shirt and and girls liking me for that uh i have i have one thing i wanted to

00:19:24.400 ask you home at so sure because we need your your analytical skills for this so um

00:19:32.640 uh travis kelsey won because he taylor swift isn't half run through like like a lot of the women in the 1.00

00:19:42.480 industry she's she's in mid but she's she's attractive enough to be seen seen with in person 1.00

00:19:49.040 you know she she's not a bridge troll where he he'd have to hide her under a bridge she has money and 1.00

00:19:55.200 status and she seems sensible right and now everyone's talking about and then if they get divorced

00:20:02.560 he gets alimony and if they have kids he gets child support and and the other thing too is they say

00:20:09.680 she's run through but it's like okay what were your girlfriends doing before like this is what's on

00:20:14.480 the menu is a lot of you don't know what your girlfriend was doing before you know right yeah

00:20:19.760 so like a guy like that he's gonna be like they're all run through anyway i might as well get alimony if

00:20:24.800 this goes south yeah so the the it's the case is that she has more than him or what's what was that yeah

00:20:30.880 yeah because people keep trying to say that she's losing because he makes less money but i would say

00:20:37.920 she's winning because she's by far travis kelsey is the most alpha guy that taylor swift is ever 1.00

00:20:46.720 gonna get she gets his genetics she gets a ring she gets an nfl player that a lot of these women can't 1.00

00:20:54.720 get so like a lot of women are seeing it from a taylor from a man's point of view based upon money but 1.00

00:21:01.520 that's not how she won understand what i'm saying yeah yeah yeah yeah that's again like everything

00:21:07.600 changes like chemically at that at that higher level where um like men will think about women

00:21:15.040 in ways that women it's usually goes the other way around when there's that much money and that much 1.00

00:21:19.520 fame and status involved i think that's what you're saying yes yeah yeah yeah so i mean i don't know

00:21:26.640 what the numbers look like or anything but if he's gaining something from it that might have

00:21:32.000 that might have some kind of effect on it it was just the main point that i want women to understand 1.00

00:21:37.200 is that this doesn't mean that you can wait till 35. well they won't listen yeah i know it's kind of

00:21:46.720 it's kind of funny to you know every day give them something that they won't listen to but at least

00:21:50.720 people are learning something the trad concept that this is going to usher in a new era of young

00:21:55.760 girls wanting to get married because taytay is getting married i don't think so though i really

00:22:00.480 don't i think it's going to be a very small percentage i think it'll be a very small

00:22:05.680 percent because they're anyone who wants to get married because taylor swift got married is going 1.00

00:22:09.840 to want to marry a football player and they'll get divorced when the content comes out like if they

00:22:16.320 get married because of a trend they'll get divorced because of a trend that's what i'm saying you might

00:22:20.720 see a slight uptick in in women who want to get married just to have a wedding but then they divorce

00:22:26.800 the guy after one or two years yeah yeah i might see a slight uptick i also think travis won because

00:22:33.280 if it goes south he can just get hotter girls after yeah now he's taylor swift's axe how many women 0.99

00:22:39.840 girls he cheats with are going to be like real baddies yeah that's a pretty good position to be in 0.99

00:22:45.760 like taylor swift wasn't good enough for me we talked about earlier could you imagine being the

00:22:53.440 girl that gets caught cheating with taylor swift's husband could you imagine that probably you could 0.89

00:23:00.800 probably start a career based on that these days oh yeah of course the new monica lewinski yeah yeah 1.00

00:23:07.440 yeah yeah yeah they're doing it for less but wasn't there some rapper girl like who just turned 18

00:23:13.200 in one-on-only fans or something oh yeah oh yeah lil tay yeah yeah everything everything is such a mess

00:23:20.480 i don't know how to deal with it it's um yeah there are a lot of ways to get in the public eye with all

00:23:27.440 this stuff you know i think i might be fading a little bit oh i haven't yeah i haven't been here that

00:23:34.800 long about i think maybe i should wrap it up let's take a night okay well thanks for stopping by yeah

00:23:40.640 thank you for having me if you make the chart can you come back and show everybody the tell me what

00:23:46.240 you tell me what you wanted to be on it again the taylor swift status chart yeah it should be like um

00:23:53.680 all you get the compilation of women talking about it and how it could be them

00:23:58.720 and then you can do um a chart on why it's not going to be you and why she won

00:24:07.440 just to be like look at do you look like do you weigh the same as taylor swift did or are you as cute

00:24:12.960 as her do you have a billion dollars yeah yeah so so so i think i can just hear it in his voice

00:24:20.080 go ahead make a chart that describes how taylor smith won and then make a chart of an average

00:24:28.880 woman and how far away from her you know what i'm saying i do yeah i have that i'm actually

00:24:35.520 i'm making i'm making a video about that right now i have this this thing that i made called the table

00:24:41.360 where it's like you know how how women will say i am the table as being the table

00:24:46.800 um so i made this exercise packet for you to that for people to you can like evaluate what you

00:24:55.520 actually have to bring to the table and then you put it on the table and then you see what the other

00:25:00.160 person has and you see like is this a reasonable trade or not so i could just use that for it

00:25:04.080 yeah that'd be great yeah exactly yeah all right well it's good yeah no i was just gonna say he

00:25:12.080 sounds tired so i'm gonna let him go i am a little i'm a little worn out but yeah i'll see you again

00:25:18.080 so come on time okay all right i'll see you soon

Pearl - August 27, 2025

Hoemath Explains Why Mids Are The Biggest Thing Impacting The Dating Market

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