Pearl - July 22, 2026


Men Obey The Rules Of The Church Before Marriage, Women Do NOT!

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In this episode, we discuss the role of the priest and wife in the Catholic Church, and why they should or shouldn't obey their husbands. We also talk about whether or not women should wait to marry until they are virgins.

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00:00:00.000 Well, do the churches preach against marrying non-virgin women?
00:00:03.680 Not necessarily. I mean, it is always exalted as the ideal. 1.00
00:00:07.200 Right, but the men have to follow the ideal, the women don't. 1.00
00:00:10.340 So I do a channel and we go to different churches and we ask people what their belief is on obedience. 0.99
00:00:16.100 So I'd love to know, one, how long you've been a member here, and two, what your beliefs are around obedience.
00:00:23.220 Sure. So I've been attending this church for, I believe, four years now.
00:00:28.520 And in terms of obedience, the catechism of the Trent actually touches on this expressly.
00:00:36.480 And we believe that to be, it's the most authoritative catechism ever put out by the Roman church,
00:00:43.540 relied on for several hundred years at this point.
00:00:46.500 And it actually touches in there on the duties of a wife and the duties of a husband.
00:00:50.620 And in the duties of a wife section, it has, I believe the phrase goes,
00:00:55.400 let them never forget to esteem their husbands as second to god and to yield to them in all things
00:01:03.140 not not in offense against christian piety or in line with christian piety something to that effect
00:01:08.640 so it's pretty straightforward and and just so you would say yes they should obey well of course yes
00:01:15.460 um and what do you guys do here if the priest and the husband disagree well i'm a little bit
00:01:21.660 young to answer that question so i mean i don't necessarily know how old are you you're what 20s
00:01:26.700 early 20s yeah that's accurate 23 23 okay so you've been around long enough right four years
00:01:31.980 that's a good amount of time i mean yeah but in terms of like observing priest husband conflicts
00:01:36.480 i don't have any okay so you're not you're not too sure no i don't know i don't know what happened
00:01:40.380 yeah because i guess one of the questions i have faith in our priest though yeah well it's one of
00:01:43.560 the questions we come to is that no two men agree on everything so yeah so when it comes to if you
00:01:49.480 to walk this way slightly just in case someone comes in when it comes to like parenting style
00:01:54.080 and um you know just um there's different different disagreements in a marriage uh what
00:01:59.900 happens if the priest agrees with the wife and not the husband who should she listen to
00:02:04.800 according to you well it depends on the subject in question so priests are just get out of it
00:02:13.460 well first off this isn't necessarily represented in my parish it's just like off the dome when
00:02:17.700 asking me but if it's a matter of moral theology for example where the priest's learning and his
00:02:26.340 specifically spiritual authority in that way would come into play more and the husband maybe doesn't
00:02:31.140 know the thing or so on then in that case it would make sense for the priest to have a certain
00:02:36.660 superiority but in cases that pertain more particularly to the family that i mean it could
00:02:43.540 become it could it could be compared really to the difference between the church's authority and
00:02:47.140 state's authority there's a big analogy there in the sense of the church has supreme authority
00:02:52.020 in spiritual matters but the state has a supreme authority and temporal and temporal and matters
00:02:58.420 that relate to the common welfare of the people so in that way the priest logically would have
00:03:04.420 an ultimate authority in spiritual things the husband represents christ and thus is kind of a
00:03:11.040 delegate in the in that way and also in practical things relating to the common good of the household
00:03:16.120 the husband would have you know the authority there so if women are not getting married young
00:03:21.960 in churches isn't that requiring morality for men but not women
00:03:30.680 i don't necessarily see how the two follow well when it comes to abstinence
00:03:35.160 women aren't waiting till marriage to have sex generally and if you go to a lot of churches the
00:03:38.840 men are well so wouldn't it isn't it kind of requiring morality for one and not the other
00:03:46.120 I mean, I don't know what churches you're familiar with,
00:03:49.600 but abstinence is something that's universally pre-shared.
00:03:53.000 It's binding on Catholics until marriage.
00:03:54.900 I mean, it's just part of the virtue of chastity, really. 0.56
00:03:57.760 So if you're talking from a secular standpoint or something like that,
00:04:01.780 then maybe in those cases...
00:04:04.960 I just even hear the women, I interviewed a few, 0.95
00:04:07.180 and they said they weren't virgins.
00:04:08.820 So like you're essentially, even here, I go to all different types.
00:04:12.720 and it's just the typical christian couple um in a lot of places is the guy's a virgin and the
00:04:18.520 woman isn't so like when that's the case wouldn't you say it's requiring morality for one and not
00:04:23.800 the other i well first i would dispute this on two levels so first just empirically speaking
00:04:30.880 in terms of that's the average experience there are a lot of situations i know a lot of young
00:04:35.700 people i have a friend who goes to a land mass not this one but a land mass up in minnesota
00:04:42.420 and he and his wife were both virgins still marriage and they were high school sweethearts
00:04:46.620 as just an example of the time I had. Would you say that's the norm?
00:04:51.900 Yes, you wouldn't hesitate. I mean, the norm, well, most people aren't getting married
00:04:55.760 without high school and that has correlations to premarital chastity, but that's the point. 0.96
00:05:00.940 If you delay marriage since women have more sexual access than young men do, 0.91
00:05:05.520 you're requiring morality for one and not the other. I still wouldn't say this requiring 0.82
00:05:09.760 morality for one and not the other, though. Well, do the churches preach against marrying
00:05:13.580 non-virgin women? Not necessarily. I mean, it is always exalted as the ideal. Right, but the men
00:05:22.740 have to follow the ideal, the women don't. No, both of them do. And both of them have to deal 1.00
00:05:27.240 with the consequences. Right, but if a guy marries her after, is there really a consequence?
00:05:32.660 There certainly could be. But in all honesty, not really. Well, no, there certainly could be,
00:05:38.400 insofar as for instance it influences the marital dynamics is would be one instance of this so for 0.58
00:05:46.620 example it's common for i mean this is an analogy but if if one spouse is highly attractive and the
00:05:55.840 other isn't then that influences the marital dynamics insofar as the one who isn't highly
00:06:01.380 attractive has to compensate for that to some degree whether that's knowledge or money or
00:06:06.480 virtue or something i mean that's a common thing and so i bring that up because you can make an
00:06:11.200 analogy here insofar as if one is marrying a non-virgin that can influence the marital dynamics
00:06:17.480 you know maybe she maybe she brings a great amount of obedience into the situation or maybe i remind
00:06:24.280 of the words of our lord actually when it comes to when it comes to mary magdalene that specifically
00:06:29.500 because of the fact that she had been living a life of iniquity that she had all the greater
00:06:35.760 affection for our lord that she anointed her feet with oil through her hair and so on so you know
00:06:42.820 that would also be another analogy insofar as a woman who a woman who led a not even a dissolute
00:06:51.540 but who made a mistake in the past there can be ways that our lord can will a certain good out
00:06:56.460 of that now on the practical temporal level there are also downsides but well i'm just more asking
00:07:01.660 like i've just found that none of the churches i go the average doesn't seem to be that the 22 0.94
00:07:07.040 year old girls are married and when you delay marriage um the women are promiscuous and the
00:07:12.320 men are less promiscuous do their data backs i'm not in favor of delaying marriage or anything 0.68
00:07:16.580 i know you're not in favor but i'm asking if the church doesn't require young marriage
00:07:20.700 then wouldn't you say it's requiring morality for one gender and not the other how would a church
00:07:26.360 require young marriage um well they used to they used to do we encourage it it's the ideal here
00:07:31.720 yeah um you know indisputably well there's some churches that take a stance on it yeah like what
00:07:36.940 what church would take a stance on that that is relative to ours well hypothetically you could
00:07:42.300 require the women have to be married by a certain age because women have all the choice when they're 0.92
00:07:46.100 young okay it's there even among process dominations there are church that literally
00:07:50.960 blinds its members to be married after a certain well there's some that do arranged marriages yeah
00:07:55.020 do arranged marriages yeah okay well called cults sorry okay well yeah that's what I can say I mean
00:08:01.980 that's also a bit of a different arranged marriages well semi-arranged marriages also happen here
00:08:06.300 yeah so um you know this is a big church with it's the second largest or first largest land
00:08:13.160 mass in the United States so you get all kinds of people here there are people who
00:08:17.000 have gone to college and have professional lives and then they have a dramatic conversion
00:08:22.680 and then they they come here but they're still somewhat thinking in the world yeah and then
00:08:28.620 they're all the way on the other side of the spectrum there are individuals who it's like
00:08:32.620 trad homeschool families they got a farm and everything and so in those two contexts the
00:08:38.200 pressures to marriage and the ideas on that will be different but i would still say here definitely
00:08:42.880 the milieu is conservative you know people people want to be married what percent of people stay
00:08:48.500 here like what would you say is because i find like the average church cycle online are like
00:08:54.820 just off of the data is like seven years is that similar here or different um well if you consider
00:09:02.100 my own time line i've been here four years i intend to keep coming here you know as long as
00:09:05.700 i'm in the area and i from people i know i don't know anyone who's stopped going