Pearl - August 02, 2025
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Summary
In today's episode of Pearl Daily, we have a special guest on the show, Aaron. Aaron is a graphic designer by trade and is also a ventriloquist by profession. He joins us to talk about his dating problems and how to deal with them.
Transcript
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three two one what up guys welcome to another episode of pearl daily today it's our favorite
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day of the week it's std friday oh my god where we go over the stds that are out there right now
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i know it's an uncomfortable part of dating but we do have to talk about how to avoid stds and
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what stds are out there because this is a part of dating today if you think that you are too good to
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get an STD it can really happen to anyone half of the people I interview are married but before we
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get to today's topic I thought we'd kind of start with a little fun segment so one of the guys that
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works with with us here his name's Aaron and he's had some dating issues that he wanted to talk
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about with me and Doug MPA so we're going to bring him on the line and maybe as a class we can go
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through his problems um i don't know why my if i look here today guys the my mouse like won't
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charge for some reason so i'm having to put the chat on my phone so bear with me um okay but hi
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erin welcome to the show uh what's kicking chicken how's it going good so tell me about your problems
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Tell me what you were telling me before the show.
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Let's just say hypothetically, you suspect that someone you know is dating somebody.
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And, you know, you want to find out, like, if it's true or if, like, there's something going on, if they're hiding something.
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Would it be crazy if you knew that person was going to be at a certain bar or restaurant or something to, like, go in disguise to that place to find out what they're up to?
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because like maybe they're not actually dating somebody maybe you're just paranoid and you go
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there and you just see them alone and then your conscience is cleared but like what if you i don't
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know see them with like a woman or a man or something if you're in disguise and you don't
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just confront them up front you can like hear like their conversation like they're talking about like
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you know doing it or something then you know yeah they're dating someone or something or you know
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if they're talking about like their grandparents it's probably just family or friends and you know
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you're just in your head or something who is this person i i won't say i won't say it's
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okay okay i'm gonna ask the easy question are you dating this person no uh well there is no
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one person i'm talking about it's just like a hypothetical just like for anyone like let's say
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you suspect your friend has a girlfriend and he's not telling you or if like there was a girl you
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just recently broke up with or something and you suspect she might have been cheating on you and
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so you know you think there or if you suspect like maybe i don't know maybe your dad is like
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having an affair or something okay my first question is do you have any hobbies
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i am a graphic designer by trade i'm also a ventriloquist okay so what would be like what
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do you think that you have something better to do than stalking well i mean it's not really
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stalking if you're just trying to get down to the truth you know like what if i what if my buddy i
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won't say his name but like what if my buddy who does not get a lot of women because he's a bigger
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guy you know and stuff what if i suspect that like he's dating someone and he's not telling
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me about it and i want to know about it and i like go down to like this bar and that's where
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i know he's going to be but why do you need to know if he's dating someone like get down to it
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or something why you know well because like then whatever excuses he's giving me like these
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ridiculous other reasons why he has to leave work earlier why just go to his apartment suddenly they
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all fall through and it's like okay buddy like don't lie to me but here's the thing what because
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here's the thing if you were approachable for him to tell you about it he'd tell you
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and second if it's affecting if it's affecting his work performance you don't need to know what
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he's doing for you to to confront him on him leaving work early or him not be a good friend
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anymore you can address that without knowing why he's doing it you can say hey man what the heck
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going you need to confront him directly about that whether you find out he's dating someone
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or not would you would you finding out he's dating someone excuse his behavior no well but it would
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also well it doesn't also have to be that you know like his work is you know slacking off maybe he's
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just like acting odd and i need to know like why he's acting odd or something and by the way the
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first part is not true like it doesn't make me any less approachable like you can probably tell
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by the way i'm speaking that i'm autistic and autistic people are approachable so first of all
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that's the first thing um you know that's I mean I know that's like a little ridiculous to say like
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I know how I sound but like still like I just want I just want to throw that out there for
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further context or something right I'd recommend I recommend getting like three hoes yeah because
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I just think you need somewhere else to put your mind you know like if you had three women bothering
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you you wouldn't really be too worried about if he was dating someone right well and believe me
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You know, you don't need to tell me that or something.
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I mean, you know, I being, you know, 20 and living on my own, I'm doing my best here.
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Even though I just recently got, even though I just recently got my own apartment, but
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I was close to being able to secure two more recently until I got dumped last night.
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So tell us, I'm taking your, tell us about the dumping.
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um how do you let's call this on snapchat just like you like just you just like start like
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quick adding people you go to the quick ad tab quick ad quick ad just like randomly add people
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snapchat is like within all your quick ads are within like location proximity of people that
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are like close to you around there so you're automatically being matched with like women
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that are close or something then once you ask the basic questions like hey where are you from how
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old are you stuff like that you know what do you look like that's when you know you start to reel
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them in a little bit. And that's, and that's what I did with this girl. You know, I added her
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randomly. Hey, how old are you? Where are you from? What do you look like? Once I realized,
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you know, she was my age or she was 21. She was one year older, close to me and also looked pretty
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hot. I asked her like, Hey, do you want to get together? Um, and we did a couple of days later.
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Um, and then we went back to my apartment. Um, and you know, okay. Read the Bible, read the Bible.
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so you hit good job but um then she had to go to florida for a week and you know we talked for
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a while i was trying to keep it on the down low that i was dating this girl because i have like
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former roommates who i also like work with and stuff who i didn't really want knowing about it
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but i told this girl that works downstairs to where we work about it and she spilled to them
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so it's kind of out in the open now or something and i kind of just had to bite the bullet and
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realize like, okay, I need to be like a little more private about my stuff if I don't want stuff
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getting around to them. So finally, she comes back from Florida about a week later. She shows up at
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my place. We like order a pizza and we're talking. Obviously, since she was coming to my place,
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I was under the assumption that something else was going to happen. But then she basically starts
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asking me like, what is this? Like, what are we doing? And I'm like, what do you mean?
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you'd known her a week at that point a week and a couple days maybe 10 days okay so now it's the
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what are we conversation basically i'm like what do you mean she's like you know we're too old to
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be playing these games you know i can't keep doing this without like a commitment or something and
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i'm telling her like hey first of all take a chill pill like we've seen each other one other time or
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something how about we just sit back you know enjoy our evening or something and she just keeps
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standing on her ground like no i need a commitment and just basically as she's saying like okay well
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that's going to be the case have a good night she's grabbing her stuff walk out um i did try
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and make one last move basically because as she's like walking out i told her like hey well real
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quick you know if uh where do you go oh you there hello oh i don't hear him are you still there
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pearl i'm here can you hear me rejoining okay i'm letting him back in what do you think of a girl
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asking for commitment after 10 days yeah no sorry my internet so i mean was this girl the same age
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as you like 19 20. he says he was she was 21. wait okay finish the finish the story so what
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happened when she was she said she was walking out and then what happened
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yeah yeah i'm sorry about this basically um as like she's on her way out i asked her i was like
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well hey if us are going to be a thing of the past how about just for old time's sake then i
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started pointing at my bedroom and then she just turned around and walked out um and that was the
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i saw for basically and then she unadded me on snap and stuff so that's uh that's where i'm at
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what do you think doug mpa um one of the journeys of a man is taking l's and moving forward because
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that's one of the biggest differences between men and women like you you gotta learn how to
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how to take l's and here's the thing if a woman breaks up with the okay if a woman tells you
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something believe her the first time move on she kind of took the l though because he like hit and
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then didn't want to commit well yeah but um you know just move on if you're still you're not still
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occupied with this girl are you like are you glad she's gone or what i mean it was good like the
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time that we spent together so i can't really say that you know i'm thrilled that like nothing will
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happen any chance of anything will happen again or something but you know if she's gonna walk out
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that easy um over like a stupid like oh we're too old for these games then i can understand how
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maybe i like matrix level dodged a bullet or something but you know at the same time you know
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like you know with me finally like having my own apartment and stuff i do want to get to the point
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where like i can regularly like bring a lot of these women over and like not have to worry about
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you know competing with some of the people i work with and stuff who are bringing in women left and
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right or something you know like i got like these older co-workers who are like in their 30s or
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something and they have like a new woman over every night and meanwhile i'm just stuck to like
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the snapchat screen or something you know so like here's the thing though uh when you're 20
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you really don't bring up a lot of value to the table because you know look when you're a man you
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turned 18 it's a scary feeling because you're not worth anything you you should you have to build
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your value 30 year old guys especially 30 year old guys who are established and have money and
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have 10 years on you that they're gonna get more women than you and there's nothing you can do
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about it because they have 10 years on you so so you you have to accept that well but at the same
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time and you have to go ahead i understand what you're saying but at the same time i'm not gonna
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reveal too much about my personal life but it's like look yeah these guys are older you know i'm
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a business owner man you know like i've got i've met some and worked with some pretty powerful
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people that these people that these guys like haven't been around like i don't understand why
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that's not being viewed as like you know me being the jordan belford and then all my 30 year old
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co-workers are like my jonah hill and whatever the fuck his name is you know stuff like that so
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like i just i i said i said i said he should have made her work for it and given her like
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i'll i'll maybe commit after x y and z and then you know then you could still not in three months
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yeah because here's the thing we had a show about situationships women here's the thing you you if a
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woman says what are we and she wants a commitment there's there's a way to keep her around without
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saying there's no commitment we don't really say yes you don't really say no this was a situation
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where you should have been able to do that and here's the thing like women always want an
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explanation and always want a why just don't give them one okay if you don't give them a story
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they can't find holes in it if you don't give them just next time this happens and a woman
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asks you for for for commitment you say look i'm giving you all i can right now
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but you know see us guys we especially when you're young you care about a woman's emotional well-being
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to a fault you need to stop doing that and here's the thing if you're if you're a good a quote
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unquote good guy you hate lying to women you you hate to be a scumbag it's against your nature
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so just shut up dude don't say anything if it makes you feel bad to say to lie to women and
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say horrible things to women you'll get there when you get older but right now stop talking dude
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i mean like i've seen like i've seen like your show like i've i've listened to like the call
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ends where like you guys you and a few other guys have said before like you know trust me dude when
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you turn 30 like it's raining vaginas and stuff like that like that's what happens like you
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that's like what happens when you turn like 35 or something but it's like i want to be able to work
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with what i have you know now that i have my own place and you know my own little bit of clout
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like hey look at me i'm a big shot or something like that i just want to be able to work with
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something that i have so you know do you think i'm making a mistake just like sticking to like
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the snapchat strategy should i like try to move up a little bit or something so here's the thing
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you have an established strategy you um get steady in that where you have a steady amount of women
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coming in there get yourself a nicer rotation where you're never really alone okay it's like
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the best time to apply for a job is when you already have a job
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the best time to try to upgrade your game is when you already have women coming in so don't knock
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your strategy but i like the fact that you feel the need to upgrade and you have the means to be
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able to do it but look but you haven't there a lot of guys especially when they're 20 have no strategy
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at all man like none a lot of guys out there aren't getting any you're trashing your your
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snapchat strategy are you crazy well my my co-worker told me today after uh like all this
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that i should like delete snapchat and like actually go to like a serious dating app or
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something because of like the bots and the scammers that are on snap and it's like yeah that's true
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but there's also just as much of that on like dating apps or yeah something you know what i mean
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why not do you have good pictures like did you get a photographer uh some of them are
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professionally done yeah that's good okay um yeah um give yourself credit for even it sounds
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seem like you have more access than the average 20 year old man so give me some credit for that
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a lot of guys are out here starving especially at 20 starving so give yourself credit dude
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you know well and i won't lie a lot of a lot of the women that i brought around really aren't
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something to like brag about like i have a couple of hey you gotta start you gotta start somewhere
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yeah we've all smashed whales we've all smashed threes and fours man that's that's what we call
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again that's what we call practice for your wife
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yeah so what is your strategy for for upgrading it's another reason i'm calling in like trying to
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figure that out basically um you know it's like it's like i'll go out with like some of the guys
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i work with who you know are older and are bringing in like new women left and right or
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something or like what are they doing like uh they i have no clue they do the same thing that
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i do and somehow they're landing you know the women that work downstairs or something like that
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and it's like what i was i'm doing the same thing like am i just ugly like what's happening well
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you're also 20 man i i can't tell you how much age because the most desirable ages for a man
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to women is like what isn't it like 40 to 45 pearl um in my opinion it depends what age the women are
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but i think it's like 35 yeah something like that yeah but i think a 50 year old will get
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more matches though because there's like the leftover women too like i'm guessing if it's
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in numbers but yeah go ahead you're gonna i always say the 90s were the best decade but
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i didn't get to enjoy the 90s because i wanted to grow up so bad like you're 20 years old man
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enjoy the fact that you're 20 you're building yourself into something like do don't rush to try
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to like jump ahead understand i'm saying it's got if you what's your what you want is a time-based
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problem if you stay consistent you don't get married you don't have any kids you don't get
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one of these stds that'll permanently be there it will come stop trying to rush it man put that
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effort into your business and stuff but when it comes to women don't don't try to rush it man just
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don't i i understand what you're saying and i agree obviously but you know just the position
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that i'm in and maybe i'm just saying this wrong or maybe there's something else i could be doing
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here that you know you could lay me out but it's like i guess the easiest way to put it is like you
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know all my friends you know spent their new years you know getting laid or you know hanging out with
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all these women like in the casino and stuff. I spent my New Year's getting yelled at by a 30
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year old man because I didn't want to do something for work. You know what I mean? Like, you know,
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and I know that's the position that I've chosen, you know, for me as like a business owner and
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stuff like that. But it's like at the same time, you know, if there's a chance that when I turn
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40 or 45, I can't get anything just because, you know, I don't know, maybe I turned out to be a
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messed up 45 or 40 year old. I don't want to miss like the best open window that I had.
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you know what i mean right now are you gonna um are have you been on like dating apps have those
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been doing well or no uh yeah they do pretty well i've noticed something i'll say at least for me
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is that dating app women are more likely to ghost you than snapchat women because like every girl
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i've hooked up with every girl i've ever been like on a date or something i basically met through
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snapchat through like my little quick ad strategy um a lot of these dating app women like from hinge
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or tinder it's like they'll like respond to me but as soon as i get down like hey let's get
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together that's when like the tech stop coming basically i don't know what it is but like for
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some reason snaps you're you're competing with all of like the events and stuff and a million
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it's not even just like you know um do you like what are the messages usually like do you guys
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talk a lot or is it just because i've heard a lot of the pua guys say that you shouldn't talk much
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except for logistics because women will just waste your time for years days well i mean like
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you know i've you know i'm i'm a pickup line collector so you know sometimes that's what i'll
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use on like a dating app or something whereas on snapchat you know i can be a little more
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up for a collector a pickup line collector okay so you know because i know that's what people like
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expect on dating apps like i know that's like status quo on dating apps or something whereas
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on snapchat it's just like hey i added you hey you're cute like let's get together or something
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you know what i mean cool well thanks for share i thought i liked your last line to her would you
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have taken that girl seriously or no like down the line if she didn't do that well first of all
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it would depend how she responded to some of my other lines um but maybe i don't know uh
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uh, cause like I gave her, uh, I, you know, I told her like this other line when we first
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met, um, like on the first date and she liked it. So that told me that she at least, you
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know, had like the same kind of mindset that I was in of like, Hey, this is how this is
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going to go. So, and somewhere down the line, she'll like changed her mind on the second
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date or something. Um, so I don't know. We didn't get that far.
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Okay. Okay. Well, cool. Thanks for calling in. They, I appreciate it.
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Well, can we, uh, you think we can do this again in like a week? You think we can do
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again in like a week yeah i'll get it i'll get it i'll get a dating coach on the line go ahead yeah
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i just want to go back to the thing where your beginning issue like you
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this whole needing to know people's business thing man like especially when it comes to
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to your friend dude who cares man honestly like if he's being flaky you're gonna as you get older
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your guys are gonna get girlfriends and just disappear man you're not gonna see him for a
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a year maybe two and then when they break up all of a sudden they're going to want to get on the
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xbox again man it it's how it is with with some guys like some guys they get pussy whipped and
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then all of a sudden oh yo man yo bro i can't come out man my girl doesn't want me they're
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going to disappear so just let them let them disappear well but i also don't want to do about
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it well but i also don't like you know because like my work the people that i work with also
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happen to be my roommates, you know, they definitely don't see it that way. Like they
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found out by just completely just interrogating this girl who I told that I was even seeing
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someone in the first place. So since they don't see it that way, you know, I kind of have to like
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adapt to that a little bit and like camouflage, like, okay, so if all of our business is going
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to be out there, let's just, let's cooperate with that. And let's, you know, get to the middle of
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like what's happening with everyone or something. Cause I don't want to be the odd man out.
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Okay. So you want to stalk them back. It's like a retaliation.
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Well, not that. I just want to know the truth too. Like, you know, I understand like their
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whole mentality that says like, we need to know because like we care about Aaron since he's the
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youngest and we're like 10 years older than him. I get that. But at the same time, you know, if
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if the truth is going to be like so important to like everyone, I don't want it to like not
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be important to me. Yeah. The best thing you can do is apathy, dude. Just don't I've had to learn
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this whole truth thing, man, just don't let it,
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Like, just, this is, you only have 100% of time and effort
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and this is taking up too much of that 100%, man.
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you gotta build yourself up in this world, man.
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just just apathy is your best friend in this situation cool well thanks for calling in
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calling anytime okay uh pearl i have your contact i promise when i have an update maybe like a week
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or two we will uh do this again i really want to do this again because i'm either going to be
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better off in a week or worse off in a week all right no no stalking okay yeah all right now we're
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going to talk about some stds make sure you avoid them all right wrap it up all right buddy
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all right guys so welcome to another episode of pearl daily um so the dating market is a dumpster
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fire and men are just fed up if a man wants to date he has to worry about women not only women's
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bad attitudes are unreasonable expectations toxic friends and the risk of being blasted all over the
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internet on the t app or one of those are we dating the same guy facebook groups but worst of
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all they have to worry about stds i've been covering various stds the last few fridays because
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one because the conversation needs to be had we are going to continue that trend by covering
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syphilis and hepatitis syphilis is an std that is caused by a bacterial infection contracted
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through sexual contact it can be cured by a single shot of penicillin there were 200 700 reported
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cases of syphilis in 2022 that is the highest since the 1950s the primary stage of syphilis
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is a painless sore that appears at the site of infection typically within 10 to 90 days after
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exposure the secondary stage which is a rash a fever swollen lymphnoids sore throat and other
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flu-like symptoms that develop six to 12 weeks after the infection the latent stage the infection
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becomes dormant and may not cause symptoms for years and the territory stage which is untreated
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syphilis that causes blindness heart damage brain damage um and blindness and sometimes death
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all right so now we're gonna have this sti awareness now we're gonna have this nice this
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It's also a nice white lady talking to us about STDs.
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This week and every day this week, I'm making a video on a different STI.
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Now syphilis cases are up 80% across the U.S. since 2015 and congenital syphilis, so babies
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being born with syphilis, is up 300% over the past five years.
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So syphilis is quickly becoming a serious public health concern for us here in the U.S.
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talk about it. Syphilis is this spiral shaped bacteria under a microscope and in medicine we
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call it the great pretender because it can present in a host of different ways and sometimes be
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tricky to diagnose. Syphilis is spread through direct contact with a syphilitic ulcer or a
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syphilitic sore. So syphilis in its primary stage causes an ulcer or a sore. Now that sore is
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typically painless and a lot of times it's located internally. So it can be you know in the mouth,
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in the vagina or in the rectum and therefore people are unaware that they have this sore
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and a lot of times sexual partners will not ever see the sore notice the sore or have any indication
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that that person may have syphilis i have even seen a syphilitic ulcer on someone's arm before
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so any direct contact with a syphilitic sore can transmit the infection regarding symptoms of
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syphilis again there can be many but we classically think about syphilis in four stages so primary
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syphilis the first stage is the appearance of the sore or the syphilitic ulcer and remember this
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sore may be located internally somewhere where you can't see it and it classically does not hurt it's
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a painless ulcer and so even if you do notice something on the body a lot of people will you
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know notice something but it doesn't hurt and it goes away on its own without treatment and so
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people really don't think anything of it the next stage of syphilis secondary syphilis is classically
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associated with a rash and that rash is typically a full body rash including the palms of the hands
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and it might be a little bit itchy but nothing too crazy um this stage can also be associated
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with flu-like symptoms lymph node swelling and all sorts of things you know patchy hair loss
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headaches sore throat fatigue but again this stage will also clear on its own the rash will go away
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the symptoms will go away without treatment but that patient still has syphilis so untreated
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secondary syphilis then leads to latent phase of syphilis which is where you still have syphilis
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because you've not been treated but there's absolutely no signs or symptoms at all and this
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phase can actually persist for years so people can have syphilis for years and years without
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ever knowing it latent syphilis can eventually over years and years progress to tertiary syphilis
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and this is a very serious condition in which i would just say get tested every three months
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i know it's a because it's expensive it's probably going to cost you i was looking at quest prices
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the other day and i'm like it's probably going to cost you like a grand a year but if you're
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sexually active you know which the bacteria has now started to affect the organs it can affect
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the eyes the brain the ears the heart the muscles basically all of our organs and you can experience
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symptoms like vision loss hearing loss ears ringing confusion sometimes it's confused with
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dementia muscle weakness damage to the heart and eventually in some cases death syphilis if caught
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at really any stage can be treatable 100 fully curable with antibiotics and the drug of choice
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for syphilis is penicillin if the syphilis is caught in the primary secondary or latent phase
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you often just need one shot one to three depending on the circumstances of penicillin
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and in the tertiary phase it's recommended to have iv penicillin over several days
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the damage that has occurred to the organs in tertiary syphilis may not be reversible
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but in my personal experience i've seen people make a hundred percent recoveries once the
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syphilis was treated thing to note about syphilis is that it can take quite a while to show up on a
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blood test and that's the way we test for syphilis through the blood or if you do have an ulcer it
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can be cultured but typically syphilis is diagnosed through the blood test but it can take anywhere
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between 30 sometimes up to 90 days for that test to turn positive in the blood and so i recommend
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people who are sexually active be screened about every three months or so for these types of
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infection so you can make sure that nothing ever goes missed this little guy has been plaguing
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humanity since 3000 bc and it's not showing any signs of slowing down so we have to be aware of
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these things get your sti testing get treated when necessary and just be aware of the risks
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what questions do you have about syphilis all right what a nice she you know she's always so
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Cheery, I like her. Now she's also going to let us know three things we should know about syphilis.
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A syphilis outbreak occurring in Houston, Texas, and the health department is reporting a 128%
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increase in women since 2019. So these are the top three things I want you to know about syphilis.
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The first thing I want you to know about syphilis is that oftentimes it is asymptomatic and people
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do not even know they have it. The classic symptoms of syphilis, such as an ulcer or a rash,
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will go away on their own without treatment, so they're often either missed or confused for other
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conditions. The second thing I want you to know about syphilis is that it can be transmitted
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through pretty much all forms of sex, vaginal sex, anal sex, oral sex, and even skin-to-skin contact
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if you come into contact with a syphilitic ulcer. These ulcers are usually painless and they can be
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located inside the mouth, inside the vagina, or inside the anus, so people may not know they have
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them and you may not be able to see them. The third thing I want you to know about syphilis is that it
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can take quite a while to show up on a test after you've been exposed to the bacteria. It can take
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up to 30 days after you were exposed for the syphilis blood test to turn positive, and in some
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cases even 60 or 90 days after exposure. So what I recommend is being tested 30, 60, and 90 days out
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from a potential exposure. And if you're regularly sexually active, I recommend simply being tested
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every three months. Now, there is a lot more to be said about syphilis. All right. What do we got
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next? He already knew she was his daughter. All right, let's see. What? I have syphilis. I'm sorry.
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Yeah, well, you did some really nasty guys.
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Look, I'm just trying to be responsible, okay?
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I'm sorry, but Nick and Brad are coming over, and I'd really appreciate it if you didn't tell them.
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Fine, tell them later if it'll make you feel so responsible.
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Were you going to tell us that Dawn has syphilis?
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Not that I can go down broadcasting stuff like that.
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How about that the school's asking kids to get tested?
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All right. You know, pretending something didn't happen, Hannah, is not going to make it go away.
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Nothing happened. If something's going on, don't shut us out. We want to help you, not judge you.
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Yep. Yep. Yeah, that's how she got syphilis. OK, I guess there is a syphilis outbreak in Charlotte.
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Good evening and thanks for staying with us here at 730.
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former health department employees are warning about what they call a syphilis tsunami hitting
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charlotte they say local and state health leaders aren't doing enough to protect the public
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at six o'clock tonight investigative reporter david hodges spoke with a former mecklenburg
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county health employee who says in some cases it is taking months for health employees to track
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down new syphilis patients because of a staffing shortage and a backlog of cases the records show
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the Charlotte region far worse at tracking down these certain cases than many other areas of the
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state. In 2022, just 75% of new syphilis patients assigned to county disease specialists were
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interviewed, compared to more than 95% from the rest of the state. Former Mecklenburg Health
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employee Emanuel Stanley says he warned his supervisors about the problems, but he was
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ultimately fired. County records indicate it was a personnel issue, but Stanley says he believes
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he was terminated for sounding the alarm on syphilis and other safety issues at the department
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involving employee who was arrested. Now Dave is digging deeper into issues he's investigating
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at the county health and human resources departments. WBTV has interviewed two former
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Mecklenburg County Health employees who have been blowing the whistle on what they call
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a syphilis tsunami. We had a great operation going on but now that all of that which we had built up
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me and Christy over that one year to clean up a governmentally induced outbreak. To me,
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it's no different than Tuskegee syphilis experiments. Emmanuel Stanley was fired in
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January. Christy McCray resigned in February. I just saw my hands were tied. Nobody, I felt like
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were really listening. The public needs to know they have to protect themselves from this deadly
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disease that's running rampant in our community. According to Stanley's personnel records, which
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WBTV obtained through a public records request. His termination from the county had nothing to do
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with his warnings about the syphilis outbreak. The reasons listed in this dismissal letter
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include disorderly conduct and workplace violence. To me, they were trumped up and concocted. So this
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is a confidential HR matter. WBTV obtained a recording of Stanley's termination appeals
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hearing. Mecklenburg Public Health Director Raynor Washington argued the case for why Stanley
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should be fired. He didn't present evidence of any violence, but instead focused on an incident
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in which Stanley was accused of screaming at a human resources employee. The reason why we're
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here ultimately is because of your actions, specifically the yelling, the cursing that's
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been described. Okay. All right. So we got a syphilis outbreak. Not good.
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Now I guess there's one in Houston too. We have a health alert tonight, a sharp and shocking
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increase in the number of infectious syphilis cases in the houston area the health department
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says the number rose 59 percent in just the first half of certain ethnic groups are at a higher risk
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stop raw dogging for god's sake yeah i know it's like
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i know 2018 or any syphilis is back i mean it didn't leave rhoda is live tonight with
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who's most at risk andy we know the answer to that question come on
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hi keith in the early 2000s syphilis was close to being eliminated but since then health officials
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say every few years they've seen a spike in cases now syphilis symptoms aren't always noticeable
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so a person may have it and not even know they're infected most at risk anyone who's had multiple
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sex partners health officials say they're particularly concerned about gay and bisexual men
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who engage in anonymous sex they've also seen an increase in syphilis cases among women
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last year there were it's the bi guys they bring stuff back to the women 30. so far this year
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they're at 47. we want to make sure women get tested because with syphilis you know they do
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run the risk of the baby being um dying so far there have been 263 reported cases in the first
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six months of 2018 compared to 165 during the same period last year. Health officials also warn
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that if you've already been diagnosed with an STD, you're at a much higher risk of getting infected.
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One way to reduce your risk, make sure your partner wears a condom every time you have sex.
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Syphilis may start with a painless sore that usually goes away in three to six weeks.
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Other symptoms include swollen glands, patchy hair loss, and a non-itchy rash on your hands or the soles of your feet.
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You may have syphilis, and later on, a few years, you may discover that you have damage to your organs.
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Okay, so there are multiple kinds of hepatitis, but hepatitis B is considered an STD and is the most likely to spread by sexual activity.
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hepatitis b can be spread through infected blood semen and other bodily fruit fluids the symptoms
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of hepatitis b include fatigue loss of appetite fever nausea dark colored urine joint pain and
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yellowing of the skin and the eyes hepatitis b is incurable and there are medications that can
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suppress the virus to prevent further damage to the liver and other organs there's also vaccines
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I'm a liver specialist let's talk about hepatitis B this virus is transmitted from person to person
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through infected body fluids and it affects four percent of the global population and also
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wow that's higher than I thought four percent the cause of the majority of the world's cases
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of liver cancer most commonly found in people who were born or living in China India the Philippines
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and Nigeria and other African countries as well you will only know you have this virus if you get
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tested because most people have no symptoms. People who need treatment are often the ones
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who have an elevated viral load, elevated liver enzymes, or any indication of liver damage.
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And being on treatment, if you're a candidate, can reduce the risk of liver fibrosis and injury
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and reduce the risk of liver cancer. So if you think you're at risk of having Hepatitis B,
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see your doctor and get screened for the important proteins that indicate
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whether or not you have active infection or not. Okay, I got that. Next, we got...
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hello so i found out that i have hepatitis b after my initial lab test results so my ob-gyn
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called me to inform me that i did test positive for hepatitis b she did reassure me that there
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was nothing to worry about and that is a common finding for women who were born in asian countries
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she further explained that my mother may have passed it on to me during birth
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she then referred me to a perinatologist to help with further testing
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um i did additional blood tests every trimester to check my viral load and luckily
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um they were less than zero so all right so she's finding out her mother gave her hepatitis b
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oh my god can you imagine being that mad at your mom for being a whore
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oh my god it's undetectable both doctors did inform me that our baby will be getting an
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additional vaccine called the hepatitis b ivig which is an extra protection for
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the baby from the virus. My peritologist also recommended that I do see a GI specialist to
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check if my liver is doing okay. And so far my baby has had the IVIG and two Hep B vaccine shots.
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Our pediatrician informed us that we will be checking my baby's viral load
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to make sure that everything is going well yeah how does the doctor know she got it from her mom
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um i think it's because of like in a lot of those countries it's common but they probably don't you
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know even doctors will lie to women to make us feel better i do know one person that has that
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std i don't know which hepatitis i didn't ask but this person was older and they lived to be pretty
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old like she's this person's in their like 70s so i don't think it doesn't seem to have affected
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this person's life what's up back with another video today and the video that's what we're going
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to talk about in this video is hepatitis b now if you if you think you got hepatitis b these symptoms
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it's just normal regular day symptoms fatigue tiredness fever joint pain stomach pain nausea
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vomiting loss of appetite yellow swellness of eyes um your p might be like a light color or
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you might have stool or dark stuff in your um urine and uh hepatitis b you can't get rid of it
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can't get rid of hepatitis b now it could go away on its own but you you can't get rid of hepatitis
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b matter of fact hepatitis b be up some shit it can cause other problems if you don't get tested
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and make sure you don't have it it can cause other problems hepatitis b hpv hiv and um
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Yeah, then we got this one and then you guys can call.
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uh you're gonna hear some some celebrities who have hepatitis sure are you ready for this how
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do you know they have it it's on it's on healthline.com so but how would they how could
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they like know the medical records like that's you can't these celebrities have have all disclosed
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that they had hepatitis okay go ahead yeah so anthony kiedis from the red hot chili peppers
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lead singer pamela anderson has hepatitis c no way yeah yeah uh-huh so i hope liam neeson knows
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you know what yeah and i i think there's some way that it doesn't spread i don't i know someone that
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has it and i know the person that has it the person married doesn't i don't know how i don't
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i didn't ask but yeah sorry go ahead uh once oh i lost my hold on okay um
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natasha leone has it okay uh stephen tyler from aerosmith he had it ken watanabe he's a actor
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he had it who else would you know naomi judd she had it david crosby had it billy gramp the
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wrestler had it lou reed the singer he had it and natalie cole you know nat king cole's daughter
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had hepatitis c greg allman from the allman brothers he had hepatitis c evil knievel the
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stuntman he had um he had to get a liver transplant because he had hepatitis c um
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and those are everyone that you know everyone else is too old for you to know
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yeah it seems like the person i know that has it is older
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uh it seems to be an older person thing something yeah so ladies if you go for a grandpa just know
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he might you guys are banging these old broads they might give you something very natal spread
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i'll just simplify it down it's very interesting so if uh somebody's parents father or mother
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has hepatitis B but they don't know about it because all hepatitis B viral infections
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does not become a disease. The virus just stays in your body, it doesn't do anything. In some
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cases it might promote liver damage, cause cirrhosis, liver cancer, whatever. But in many
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patients, many people, they are just inside we don't know about it. So in such people,
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they transmit this virus to their children. So the mothers can transmit the virus to their
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children during childbirth and fathers can transmit the virus to their children during
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the early years of life due to excessive what do you call that handling and kissing and all so
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usually only the yeah usually only the eldest son or daughter gets it what is very important in India
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and very importantly what I see something known as perinatal spread I'll just simplify it down
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it's very interesting so if somebody's parents father or mother has hepatitis B but they don't
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know about it because all hepatitis B viral okay yeah now we got moms giving it and dads
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all right so we got questions for the callers if you have contracted hepatitis or syphilis
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can you please call in and tell us your story how you got it who you got it from
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or if you know somebody that has it call and tell the story is a woman with a history of hepatitis
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or syphilis a deal breaker and what if she got it from her parents we're going to put a zoom link
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in the chat and i would love to have you guys call in let me check the chat um again my my
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computer is being weird today it's just it's just been a week with technology um
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we can maybe start with a poll and see is is a woman with hepatitis from her parents a deal
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breaker yes or no no fault of her own now while we're waiting we are going to show my divorce
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documentary trailer while we're going to wait for people to get on the line by the way guys you can
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this um this was a compilation of all the interviews I did when I was in England for the
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divorce documentary unfortunately um they demonetized me I basically had to put my life
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on hold the last two years um because these ladies just take me to court like it's just a
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whole thing and anyways long long story short um we're trying to raise a hundred thousand dollars
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the link to it is in the description if you can donate if not it's no big deal um i also want to
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say thank you but my computer won't turn on but there are three people that donated last time and
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two of them sent a hundred dollars so i really appreciate that we're going to read your names
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next show so there's this clip going viral online of a dozen women being asked the following question
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do we need men most answered very quickly no because men are useless
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this headline from the hill it caught my eye most young men are single most young women are not
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young men have fallen faster than any demographic in america over the last 40 years it's a different
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world now like we don't need men the way that they used to the future is female men and women
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are drifting further apart and society is crumbling because of it a fascinating debate
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has broken out about the value of marriage we've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing
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this men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way you need to stop acting like
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grown boys and infants and actually become men. Marriage is a bond and it's a sacred bond. It's
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a machine designed to extract resources from you. Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position
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that it's bad for men to get married. Hannah Pearl Davis or just pearly things. One of the most
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controversial faces in all of the internet. She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal
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for men. Because if me and you were in a business contract you would never sign a contract where I
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paid to leave. Gee, what could go wrong there? 74% or something of divorces are initiated by
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women. Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children. Men get killed by the courts
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and by divorce laws. I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of
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law. Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse. You need
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no evidence. When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing
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up for, and you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart. I interviewed them
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the other side. I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old. How much did you spend trying to
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get him back? The legal fees alone was about $200,000. Before you know it, you're homeless.
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You're literally just thrown out onto the street. We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
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Wives are taught to leave their husbands and then daughters grow up without their fathers.
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Family is the foundation of society. Every problem in society comes from single mother homes. A lot
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of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness. Feminism's
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biggest failures is it lies to women we tell women to date as many guys as possible we tell
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them to put off family into marriage you are allowed to leave your perfect husband you are
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allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend oh freeze your eggs have an abortion
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what you're evil i don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into
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preparing to fail like if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic
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naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway it's self-sabotage that's
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the thing like women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy this is not
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about happiness the most important thing is the children and the problem is we have a modern
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society where it's me me me my feelings leave when i feel like it instead of doing what's best for the
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kids this myth that we live in an age of male privilege where's my male privilege they think
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well men have all the rights they have all the power privilege patriarchal system that we have
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why doesn't our society care about men's rights i have no friends no wife and no social life men
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are alone in this situation men are homeless men are thinking about eating guns i've seen so many
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men on on the brink of suicide and they didn't do anything wrong how are you equal if the men
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are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country the men are the ones that
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build and maintain all the infrastructure women are helplessly dependent upon that the so-called
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deaths of despair from suicide overdose to alcohol three times higher among men than among women
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culture is telling men you are no good you got to get your act together i think men have failed
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themselves what kind of a man are you what kind of a woman are you going to attract if men are in
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trouble so are women everybody knows this is a huge problem but nobody wants to admit it every
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single woman at the table said they wanted a man 500k 500k 300k 200k am i crazy everything is really
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set up against you to fail as a man if men make less than women women don't want to marry them
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so you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men women i don't want to be
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an independent woman anymore i don't want to be a strong independent woman i'm over it when is it
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going to be my turn where are we meeting the men that don't stop i can't keep having these same
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conversations the only simp here is you pearl you sent for no i think i think you sent for women
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she's a provocateur she says stupid stuff but pearl is right about this it's already happening
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it's just not out in the open yet now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale
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ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband the future if everybody
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follows your path is there is no future going to population decline and our economy goes into
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decline civilization will crumble the american story does not end well this is an existential
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crisis failing young men all right guys so if you want to donate to that feel free
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otherwise please do call in if you know anybody that's had syphilis hepatitis um someone wants
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to know the global global elderly std stat okay let's look into it uh doug mpa are you there
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i am here all right let's see um while the global elderly
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hold on let's see okay let me do what percent of people what percent of people over 60 have an std
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let's see i heard that old folks homes are are uh are just havens for stds old people get it in man
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yeah yeah they don't care anymore at that point it's like
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i mean like do you really care if you catch anything and you're 80 it's like you're gonna
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die anyway i guess that's why i said he's not gonna care about hepatitis he's 70
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okay is there anyone on the line no there isn't i was wondering if anyone would call in about
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this one because there's one woman i told her to call in let me see if she will come on well
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it says uh the exact origin of syphilis remains debated among scientists however the most widely
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accepted theory is that it originated in the americas and was introduced to europe by christopher
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columbus's crew in the late 15th century syphilis was first documented in europe in 1493 shortly
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after columbus's returned from the americas archaeological evidence suggests that a similar
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disease existed in the americans before european contact genetic analysis of the bacteria that
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causes syphilis indicates it originated in the americas yikes at least they have cures and stuff
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now and vaccines uh it says the the the the origin of syphilis is still debated but is believed that
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originated from an animal possibly sheep or cattle and then crossed over to humans gee i wonder how
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what percent of people over 60 i'm gonna say i have herpes because that's uh
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damn come on you guys call in you don't have to have your camera on
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and uh i i've never met someone who's had uh hepatitis or syphilis i knew one person this
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was knowingly this was someone older that i'd known for a while but i they seemed to live a
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normal life i didn't see anything outwardly and all sorts of stuff you have to see you get to
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al capone perish from advanced stage of syphilis likely contracted in one of his
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of his whorehouses so al capone they said he likely died of syphilis
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they said that you know the leader of the germans during world war ii
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had many symptoms of hit of syphilis i bet yeah you you know i know yeah yeah we're not saying
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my name on here but yeah yeah i just said we're not saying that name on here but yeah yeah of
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course not uh abraham lincoln may have passed syphilis on to his wife
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abraham lincoln did not marry until age 33 after the president's passing his former law partner
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claimed that lincoln had admitted to contracting syphilis around 1835. lincoln spent time on the
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mississippi river in new orleans and it's rumored to have patronized cat houses equal whorehouses
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while in the city yeah um frederick nietzsche they said that he he may have died of syphilis
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um lenin you know the guy that led the soviet revolution they say he he may have died of
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syphilis uh who else is on this list oh henry the eighth they said that he may have had symptoms
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of syphilis uh oscar wilde the author okay uh isn't beethoven may have had syphilis related
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symptoms shakespeare god man this is a mother dude i think they kind of eradicated it mostly
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at this okay there's a woman who worked at a clinic who's my i think i'm gonna get her to
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who else is on here and that's pretty much everybody so that is no one's gonna call in
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about syphilis or hepatitis i'm buying a new laptop i can't take this anymore
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it's her syphilis i mean feel free if you haven't called in and told the story before
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oh let's see if this girl is gonna call in now let me put it in the uh you know it's funny
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i have um i've heard that even when women like learn about stds we still don't care
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because my my friend told me he dated like female doctors like he dated a few and none
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of them cared about using protection yeah first off the answer is yes second there's
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some pride about her something like that yep let's see are you calling in all right tell
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me if she gets on the line up man oh yeah my name is cat yeah cat ed can you tell the people
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um a little bit about your background um i said you work for stds stuff and worked there for about
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five years and was you know certified to give people results and stuff like that cool we're
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talking about syphilis and hepatitis did you ever test for those or was it mostly just HIV
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mostly just HIV but the people both of those unfortunately okay so it was kind of like a
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co-infection with hepatitis and um HIV usually yeah and what percent of people that get HIV
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would you say it's like gay people like is that do straight people in my and this could be
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completely ignorant you're gonna know more than me you're doing the testing
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but I thought it was just like a gay disease like just gay people usually get
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it so go ahead yeah well back in the day it was more prevalent with gay people
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mm-hmm but since more people are doing more experimental things okay yeah you
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know what I mean these are things that normally straight people didn't do you
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if you catch my drift yeah okay so that has opened the door to it becoming more widespread with both
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genders like the destinies of the world huh they're they're giving it to the the girls too huh
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well yeah but like the girls are getting it from a specific you know what i'm saying yeah specific
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act that they didn't do okay because you're saying you're more likely to get it from like backdoor
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stuff yes yes but since that's more common now it's starting to level out a little bit
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i'd love to hear i know we spoke um the one time briefly about prevention do you have any like tips
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for people to prevent stds like if someone wants to be sexually active and i always use the example
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if a guy or a girl comes to you and they say look i'm about to be a hoe we are about to hoe
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we're going to host so hard what are your tips for people that want to be sexually active but
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they don't want to catch an std okay there is no way to be completely guarantee something is lying
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to you they're selling you a dream we we love to the most risky things you can do i closed
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kissing with no saliva exchange because unfortunately there's many things you can get
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from saliva like epstein-barr virus stuff like that cold sores but if you just avoid uh fluids
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um really bad and you could get it that way if you also especially have bad dental health so
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two people with bad dental health there's going to be more risk and then we have uh things like
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you know you can hug and hand hold but remember there's certain things you can get from each
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other's hands so like nothing is is maybe let's see okay anything orally i would say dental dams
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are mandatory for the women and condoms for the men fortunately you got to have a barrier or
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you're at risk and and parents and then you have natural lubrication and then none so you can use
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a lot of artificial lubrication, water-based lubrication, and it's going to help, but it's
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never going to be coming. And this is just not, it's not a safe route for someone who's with
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someone that they don't know or trust. And is, are you probably equal? Okay.
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Maybe a few, like maybe, no, I think it's probably, I would say those are actually,
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Like, well, lots of people have by looking at someone that they're going to be safe when there's really no way you can tell.
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As you know, like there's some things that you can be born with from your parents and they didn't know that they had it.
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And what would you say the chances of like from each sexual encounter, how likely is someone to catch something?
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um you gotta go like you gotta go by uh rep how easy is it this is just purely my thoughts on it
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so like this is not scientific or anything this is just like my thought based on what i've seen
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i would say if somebody is quick to sleep with you they're quick to sleep with other people
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and there there's a higher likelihood that doesn't mean now you have to like i have to
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like preface this like some people are quick to sleep with certain people and not other people
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so you have to know like where you stand on that scale and assess after that do you know what i
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found the um there's two types of people that get stds it seems like either the whores and the naive
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so like half of the ones that like we've had call in they were like married guys that got it from
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their wife yeah have you found that too or was that is that just something yes a lot lots of
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married people give it to each other unfortunately yeah cheating is a big is a big problem i'm
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looking at these tests on quest right now this is expensive uh the basic so you're saying the
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the std screening test panel expanded its screen for seven sexually transmitted infections so
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that's i think the one that people they recommend so that's gonna have hepatitis chlamydia gonorrhea
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trick syphilis hiv one and two it doesn't even test for herpes look at that that's crazy wow
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yeah and that's going to be another barriers people i'm just looking at quest because that's
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a common one like people aren't going to want to pay this have you ever had to go to a scenario
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where someone where a couple came in what that someone gave someone something to somebody and
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they found out through the test and then something happened at the clinic?
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I mean, as far, nothing, nothing violent or anything like that has happened,
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There was a few times where we got false do that and females.
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I don't think this is a, this is like uncommon, unfortunately for both
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genders when they have the opportunity to do something.
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all right for the people for the people you know that bacteria vaginitis is a sexually transmitted
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infection now they're considering it that so like there's a lot of people who are getting it from
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that too and they think it's just like i don't know they're like maybe they're sick or something
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i don't know but there's hpv is that like on there too yeah that was on there i'm just i'm
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just looking at basic boxes because you said a lot of them aren't tested for so i'm just i'm kind
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of asking the question if like yeah if the well when you go into tests they usually only test for
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the ones you mentioned except hiv they will not test for that unless you go to a specific clinic
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that tests for hiv i mean they can ask for blood tests but doctors don't like to do it because i
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don't think that they're legally allowed to give you the results I'm not sure about that I know
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that clinics you have to do a specific test just to be allowed to give someone results for HIV
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not for the other ones um were there were you surprised by the types of people that had STDs
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like would there be certain ones that you just would never how accurate are the at-home STI
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well we even the ones in clinic we've had false positives so i don't know like the percentage of
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accuracy i would say none are completely accurate even if you get a positive or a negative i would
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still retest every like three months or so just to be sure that's what i said i would say three
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months like because based on the shows i've been doing it seems like if you get chlamydia untreated
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for three months that could be pretty bad um that's you know do you agree with that i'm just
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asking like best practices cause long-term infertility and i i'm just asking you know
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like months ago when i talked to you i asked just regular girlfriends like have you ever been tested
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for anything like for real and a hundred percent have not been tested for anything that is so
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crazy for me I think I think I'm neurotic though so I think I know too much but I'm like that is
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crazy imagine yeah so it's just not very common because people are still under the stigma that
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only is there anything that you think is really um like a lot of women have or men have and they
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don't know definitely a lot of money who's relatively healthy sleeps pretty well doesn't
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have as much stress they're not going to show symptoms and they're going to be more likely to
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just have it and maybe be a carrier but not express the symptoms themselves yeah that makes
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sense and i would go to lots of patients homes with aids hiv lots of comorbidities and just by
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the lifestyle of the person you could see whether they were gonna like live a long time even with
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it or not and it's down to diet it's down to mindset it's down to like how happy you are like
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at some of the happiest people I know have all the STDs in the world, but they're very happy and
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they live just as long as everybody else for some reason. And then there'll be people who they just
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have like a party lifestyle. They're not sleeping well. They're up all night. They're, you know,
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stressed out about stuff. And then when they get something like this, it pushes them over the edge
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and then they get all these bad symptoms. Yeah, that makes sense. Do you have any,
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like would any do you have any crazy stories from your time at the clinic that you want to share
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that are like interesting uh i there's one that comes to mind but i i know like you're like a more
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like women are the problem but there's this one that like i always think about because it's kind
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of like the you know like the the passport bro thing that has always been a thing passport bros
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dawn of time i don't know why it got like a name recently but i'm talking about 20 something years
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ago so we had this guy he made his money so he's very very wealthy has yachts everything like and
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he you know passed through lots and lots of women but then he finally got something
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and after he got something he went down south picked himself a nice young virgin bride latin
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bride brought her over to the states got got her pregnant had the baby after the baby was like a
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year or something said hey let's go get tested and of course she ended up having hiv and so did the
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baby now i know like terrible story but like the the problem with that was if he had at least told
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her after he gave it to her we could have prevented the baby from getting it which upsets me oh my
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gosh so he didn't tell her and he knew he had it yeah yeah he knew like he was he was specifically
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going there for that situation so because he wanted to have a family but i mean stuff like
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that happens on the other side too it's just you know the the thing is i don't consider like men
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are the problem or women are the problem i just think people who are narcissists are just growing
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in numbers so people need to be careful it's the difference between hiv one and two one is like
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earlier two is like later in the disease right or am i wrong i don't know if they i don't know if
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i've never heard hiv no there's hsv one and hs oh yeah no i'm just looking at testing sites
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and it says hiv one and two i was just looking at because you said it's not in like the general
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panel so i was just kind of curious and it said hiv one and two testing so i was like i don't know
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what that means if you're curious why it's called passport bros and people have a problem with it
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is because it's because a lot of black men are passport bros now and like our women have a
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problem with it so like white guys have been doing it forever but now that a lot of black guys are
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doing it their passport bros and there's a problem with it because black women feel like they own
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black men and we're supposed to stay here and deal with their garbage and we're choosing not to
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well i mean this has been going on forever it's just maybe like they just figured out this was
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an option you can't get mad you got to do what you got to do that's true i feel like your testing
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should be like it should be regardless of who you're dating like because it should be mandatory
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i think it should be mandatory for like every checkup yeah i agree i don't understand why don't
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the doctors because i that's happened to me before where you go in for your yearly and i'm like yeah
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i want everything and they're like everything i'm like everything give everything why did
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they try to talk you out of it it's like don't shouldn't i have a feeling that like they need
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to have a specific code to bill insurance so you have to say specific things for them to justify
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the test so like maybe they lose out something if they have to or they don't want to make stuff up
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or whatever but like they're definitely like discouraged from putting anything unless you say
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i am like a very promiscuous person please test me for everything if you don't say that
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then they always push back yeah i'm just neurotic it's not gonna be me what a microplasma genitalium
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them. Is it UTI? Are some UTIs? Yes. STDs. Yes. And I know you did something on birth control
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before, but a lot of women do not know that chronic UTIs or BV can be from just being on
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birth control. Oh, really? That's interesting. Yeah. Just the act of being on birth control
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ruins the microbiome in the i think the vaginal canal and maybe the throat and stuff like that so
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just like how you can ruin your microbiome and your gut you can ruin it everywhere else
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oh okay you did counseling services at your at your clinic too yes so when someone found out
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would you ever have to counsel someone that had something permanent like hiv or something on how
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of like disclose it to people or how to live a normal life and stuff i believe back when we were
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doing it like you had to disclose but i don't believe you have to disclose anymore so you you
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don't ever have to tell people and here's the thing yeah can you well just finish that thought but
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this whole undetectable thing can you what after you finish the thought about the the disclosure
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thing can you talk about this whole undetectable hiv thing like what is that about yeah that is when
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you're on medication so the viral load is like low so it's past the detectable threshold that
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it needs for the test to be positive you still have it but it's in a low number but you can
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still spread it to people i mean it's a it's less likely but possible
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So, like, because I just hope it's not a thing where, like, people that are undetectable are just, like, walking around like they don't have it at all.
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Like, there's no, your only choice, even if you're a responsible person, if you're sexually active every three, I would say three months, maybe six, if you're in a relationship and you're semi-confident and don't feel like blowing.
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some of these are expensive my god like for me i could pay it but like for a normal person
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paying like i mean this is going to be over a grand a year in testing you know
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yeah and that's that's the other problem that a lot of people see especially if you're like
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a poor college student you see how much it costs you're gonna lie and say yeah i've been tested
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yeah like this is even for bv yeast infection and trick it's 269 that's expensive so like i mean
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there's definitely some cheaper places you can go get it but like it's still expensive it's like i
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think the lowest maybe like 50 per thing you can get it some of them i saw as low as 25 but like
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specific things like 25 for chlamydia 25 for gonorrhea 25 so it's like it adds up pretty quickly
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um i did want to say there was it's very difficult for lesbian couples to give any
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std to each other for like you know the blood ones right but we did have one lesbian that she
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was able to give her partner's hiv somehow she was the only one we never figured out how she did it
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but she was definitely quite capable i'll tell the story so i lived in texas for a while and um
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and have sex with them unprotected and who was giving people hiv and she said yes someone gave
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it to me so i'm gonna give it to people and she got arrested multiple times for giving people hiv
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but she just she's like yeah they gave it to me i'm gonna give it to them so bc a girl in a
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uh a little red dress at the bar at one of the bars in san antonio better watch out
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um unfortunately that's pretty common once people get it and they realize people will give it to
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them they just become like a villain yeah that's that's what i mean your choices are gonna be
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your dating life is ruined or um like and you could sleep at night or you're gonna lie and a
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lot of people are gonna pay i've interviewed people with herpes and i mean they're just
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gonna spread it they don't care unfortunately i don't know if you've i'm guessing you've seen
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similar things yeah oh of course yeah of course um most of my clients back in the day were gay men
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and it was just understood in the community that everybody was gonna get it if they didn't already
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have it so they just kind of accepted it if you will one of my one of my friends uh he he was like
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yeah man you know he's gay he's just like yeah we're trying to de-stigmatize stds in the gay
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community so we we're kind of more of a tolerant atmosphere i'm like what he's like yeah man yeah
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and i'm just like okay there bud keep that all the way over there no thanks yeah i mean it doesn't
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matter how gross it is you know it's just that's what they're gonna do so you gotta you gotta have
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a plan for yourself and that's that's all you can really do so you'd say you'd say if you're
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going to be sexually active condoms dental dams and testing every three months that's your
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recommendation i mean yeah and remember like when i started working at this clinic i was very very
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young very naive i didn't know anything about anything and then as soon as i found all this
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stuff if i even went on a date i'm like the first thing we're gonna do is we're gonna go to this
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clinic and of course most people don't want to do that for a first date but you know what that's
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fine then there won't be one that's okay really what was your success rate like how many guys
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were like okay because you're you're like a hot 18 year old guys will do a lot for that you know
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I mean there was definitely people who who said yes like my husband he was like okay yeah but
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from I will say this when I asked him were you tested he was like yeah of course and I'm like
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okay then you'll have no problem going with me to this clinic and then he's like okay and then
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i found out later like no he wasn't he was just trying to see if to speed this along
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that that's how it is people young people are broke they're not going to pay for that stuff
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unless you force them yeah totally doug mpa you got anything else for um it's always good to hear
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from people that were actually there in these clinics um just one more thing so they said um
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i've watched a couple of women on social media talk about um in miami it's some of the most
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beautiful women you're ever gonna see are like in and out of the hiv clinic and are in and out of
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the clinic getting hiv medication is there is there like a is it true that you can't tell by
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looking looking at someone if they have like hiv or some kind of scd would you assume that a certain
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like how can i put this here like they say that what's if a girl is like a little too pretty
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she probably has something in miami like is there have you seen is it true that how much
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i don't know how to ask so if you're asking if you can tell by looking at someone like if they're
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very pretty assuming like that they all have no i haven't noticed that with very attractive women
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now the only fans thing happened after i quit so i don't know if that jumped like the attractive
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women getting that so i my my suspect should i suspect yes i yes if they've done only fans or
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that type of work i suspect they probably have a higher chance now before the only fans happened
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i didn't see very many beautiful women i'm just going to be honest but i did see very many
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beautiful men if yes we very very like top tier looking men and then very very very wealthy men
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extremely wealthy men and extremely beautiful men for the women i would say average looking to me
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yeah i'd guess mids because beautiful women don't have to put out as much
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yeah yeah but mids have to put out to try to get the results that the beautiful women i know but
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that's the point the middle put out you know more so what you're saying about powerful men
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and beautiful men is why you see you know one one basketball player's wife goes to like a like
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another another celebrity because odds are she has something and they both have something i understand
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i'm saying like it's like a circle because if you like usher's given two women herpes and they've
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sued him for like like 1.5 million dollars so you can avoid that by just like sticking with women
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that are in the circle that you know have something wait i had a thought you can see
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if someone has herpes by telling them you have herpes and watching their face
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and then being like okay just kidding i don't i mean that's mean but yeah that'll work
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and then just being like because if they have it they'll be like oh i have it too
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i had it and that's because the guy that a guy that um had it i interviewed he said that like
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that happened to him once where the girl told him and i was and then he was like oh that's okay i
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have it too and i'm like that's a great way to go about it yeah gotcha i had a woman one
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time and she's like yeah uh i just want to tell you i may have herpes and i'm like you
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may have herpes what does that mean she's i took a test and and it was inconclusive
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yeah no no thanks so okay cool well thanks so much um we'd loved if you ever free friday sign
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or no nope i guess no one wants to talk about syphilis and hepatitis yeah we might get a
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gynecologist on on um in a couple weeks guys we had one um email me and if if you guys worked in
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the health care the ones with the real answers in my opinion so um okay well i think that's really
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it that we got for the show today um doug mpa you got any final thoughts um talking to health
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care providers it makes you want to live in a bubble you know like the little medical bubbles
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there's so much stuff out there man you got to be careful and you just
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you got to avoid getting one of those gifts that keep on giving man like you have to guys protect
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yourselves and just assume that a lot of these women have something and just wrap it up guys
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come on you got to do it with time like he used to say back in the 2000s wrap it up and here's
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the thing if you start wrapping it up you wrap it up all the time you'll get used to it
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just wrap it up guys yeah but guys don't worry you could still get an std so
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you might as well just go rocks you can get one anyway
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i'm just kidding i'm just kidding don't do that guys
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yay it's like yeah um anyways my final thoughts are that's disgusting um
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but you can't have sex without the risk of stds in 2025 because there's no virgin bride so
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i would just assume that everyone has something that's the best way to protect your