00:04:29.320I mean, all means every member of the group without exception.
00:04:31.720if one person decides to disagree with that claim that already poses the entire thing0.93
00:04:38.660yeah so i don't so are you saying that feminism is about equality you're saying it's not
00:04:45.620you're saying at one point it was so when feminism started in 1920 i mean not feminism sorry
00:04:51.280when in 1920 when the movement feminism gave us the opportunity to vote with the 19th amendment
00:04:58.900the 19th amendment um yeah I would have said that's what it is equality but if we're looking
00:05:06.560now in 2026 okay so you're under the impression that there's different waves of feminism and so
00:05:12.140you're saying you might have agreed with it more in the beginning and you don't now yeah yeah I'm
00:05:15.720like okay yeah like I can see that but honestly looking now at it and looking at it backwards
00:05:21.740it's done more harm than good yeah so what I would disagree I think even back then um it still was
00:05:28.080asking for special rights and privileges without having to do the hard thing. So the hard thing is
00:05:33.000building, maintaining, and protecting civilization. So even when you're going to the vote, the reason
00:05:36.880I don't agree with women's right to vote, I know this isn't the debate, but I'm just going to
00:05:40.840as an example, is because women are not enlisted in selective service. So men, if shit goes south,0.99
00:05:47.500they have to be drafted. And in the fall, they're actually saying all men between 18 to 26 are going0.99
00:05:51.980to be enlisted automatically in selective service. So my thing is, if you want the right to vote,
00:05:57.680you're voting for a commander in chief meaning you can vote to send other men off to die in war1.00
00:06:02.120if you're not willing to do the same thing then I don't think it's fair so if women want to be1.00
00:06:06.420enlisted in selective service like the men then I would agree fine but women aren't willing to do0.90
00:06:11.060that so again it's still I want the freedom without the responsibility that comes with it0.99
00:06:15.200no I agree with you I so yeah I don't want to be drafted I don't want to be
00:06:20.340um with i don't want to have my choice taken away from that and if i had to come to terms where hey
00:06:28.540if i personally i don't vote i know that's not the main claim but that's the freedom that's the
00:06:34.400that's what feminism basically gave gave us um the right to vote but also if you're saying that i get
00:06:40.720the i'm having like blank space if you're saying that i get the freedom i'm sorry can you repeat1.00
00:06:47.640that last part that i get well i'm saying in general feminists want the benefit so they want1.00
00:06:52.600the right to vote without having to do the hard thing and the hard thing is you're fined three1.00
00:06:56.760hundred thousand dollars for not being enlisted in selective service so i don't think feminism's0.97
00:07:01.580about equality because if they were about equality they would say hey we're going to build maintain1.00
00:07:06.480and protect civilization too and they don't want to do that so it's just a strategy um to get as
00:07:10.780much as possible and give as little in return as they can so like for example you know we've had
00:07:16.520a hundred years of feminism if they cared about equality they would have talked about a paternity
00:07:21.640fraud i go on these websites all the time i'm like anybody anybody you're gonna talk about it0.82
00:07:26.300they don't so paternity fraud child support alimony custody they don't talk about that stuff
00:07:30.280so they're really just women's interests it's not equality which makes sense you know if you
00:07:34.840look at incentives people are incentivized to take as much as possible so okay and how would
00:07:39.700you say feminism make women happy in 2026 say that again how has feminism make how has that
00:07:46.060made women happy? Okay. So I kind of have a more nuanced take. Feminism makes women happy when0.58
00:07:53.040they're young. So when women are young and they get to go to college and have fun and take out1.00
00:07:57.780excess like loans, the extra scholarships for college. Yeah. Like women are super happy.1.00
00:08:03.800Partying in Miami, super happy. It's just when women's poor choices, because feminism did give1.00
00:08:09.140women choice, right? The choice to get an abortion. Immediately, short term, it does make women happy.1.00
00:08:14.420But a lot of times the consequences catch up later. So when women have excess debt, that's later. When women have, you know, they have trouble getting married, that's later. When women have complications from the abortion, that's later. And a lot of times feminists aren't going to be there when their lives fall apart. So I think, does feminism make women happy?1.00
00:12:17.940i'm all i'm saying is you can't be traditional in this society because you still have access
00:12:23.060to social media which gives you easy access to men of high status which never would have happened
00:12:27.540before um you can get i guess you didn't go to college most women did though um you have access
00:12:34.340to dating apps um and yeah so it's like oh access to abortion yeah yeah go ahead um so what's your
00:12:42.660definition of traditional i would say there's no set definition and it's a marketing strategy
00:12:48.180but if we want to go towards like today that's how it's used uh a traditional life choices i would
00:12:54.420say is married before 25 um i and even like 22-ish but staying virgins till you're married
00:13:02.100being with one guy for life um and that's just pretty rare now if anything may i just ask a
00:13:07.320clarification question just so i'm following um was your is your point uh maybe you can you can
00:13:12.240elaborate where i'm incorrect is your point that because you get these benefits you're automatically
00:13:16.120a feminist yeah because you automatically it's one thing to anybody can say anything right i'm
00:13:21.580in media so people say things but it's like it's kind of like being on the winning team and saying
00:13:27.120you're not like you still have all the authority and the benefits of feminism which long term do
00:13:32.740have negative consequences but yeah yeah i think just because you have those rights and you have1.00
00:13:39.600those options doesn't mean you're a feminist do you agree with the natural order of the world
00:13:45.640like god men women children that's a more traditional point of view i do okay and you1.00
00:13:52.140would agree that you need enforcement to have authority right so like if i have an employee
00:13:56.380and i can't fire them i don't have authority do you agree with that i agree okay but we're in a
00:14:01.980society where men are punished for enforcement so if a man like yells at you too loud that can
00:14:06.940be emotional abuse if a man tells you to stop spending money that like because what happened
00:14:12.020is they expanded the definition of abuse to really include any behavior women don't like
00:14:16.060but it doesn't include behavior that men don't like yeah so you still have that leverage and
00:14:21.400the issue is men still are going to treat you differently in marriage because you have the
00:14:25.480leverage and they know that if you're unhappy you could ruin their life you have to treat all
00:14:31.120guns as loaded you might not do it right I hope you don't I hope you have a long happy marriage
00:14:35.140and everything goes well for you but um you still have to treat all women as if they could because
00:14:42.560they can yeah I can see that um I do agree with God men um wife husband wife and children um I
00:14:52.020just don't I don't know I just disagree with you regarding just because I have access to all that
00:14:58.080makes me a feminist I mean I would understand someone who uses that uses those decides to
00:15:05.060go get an abortion decides to um get divorced just because they're unhappy but because i have
00:15:12.060traditional beliefs and for me the definition tradition definition for the word traditional
00:15:17.140is following or value valuing customs beliefs roles or practices that have you know uh passed
00:15:24.160down through generation that is my can you say that one more time following or that that valuing
00:15:31.820customs beliefs roles or practices that have been passed down from generation that is what the word
00:15:38.780traditional means so that's what it is right but traditional is obedience so do you think i when i
00:15:47.920get married i should have obey my husband traditionally yeah what does that look like
00:15:53.180do you do you believe in that that you should obey your husband i think you should submit to
00:15:57.680your husband right so would you obey him i think out of submission you would come to an agreement
00:16:04.640because it like it takes two to tango that's a team marriage is a team i don't think the word
00:16:10.340obey is the right word i think because i'm not talking about hey my i want my dog to obey obey
00:16:17.120me my dog obey you give it orders well yeah you can't compare a woman to a dog but your kids have
00:16:22.260to obey you when you're the parent yeah because you have authority yeah that's my point men don't
00:16:26.880of authority thank you yeah but here's the thing in order for me to submit to my husband he needs
00:16:31.960to be able to submit to the lord well why would you pick a guy that doesn't submit to the lord
00:16:35.800if you're traditionally so you already did according to your worldview yeah so then why
00:16:40.720why are you not saying yes to the obey but that's what i mean like you don't want enough to do the
00:16:44.160hard thing because obey sucks no like obey you know what i mean it's not easy to do what he wants
00:16:48.920to do when you don't want to do it here's the thing i had conversations with this um i had0.75
00:16:54.440different conversations with different family members because um i was raised from a christian
00:16:58.780household the thing is that there's different beliefs regarding this topic some people think
00:17:04.720you should just obey and some people think no the man doesn't have the last word and some people say
00:17:12.100oh no um that's not the right word i think that the man has the last word when it comes to0.97
00:17:17.900decisions but you're also not going to be stupid and marry someone who you can't trust when it0.99
00:17:23.500comes to that right so are you going to argue with your boss's decisions no yeah so why would0.98
00:17:29.640we even argue with our husband's decisions if you believe the traditional worldview that's what i1.00
00:17:34.200mean so most women just they're not they're still feminist because they don't want to do that1.00
00:17:38.620like you know that's the hard part of the the natural order of the world that's doing what1.00
00:17:43.740he wants to do instead of what you want to do and feminism's fighting for women to have to do as0.79
00:17:48.240little as possible for men and still get the same outcomes so we want the marriage the traditional0.99
00:17:52.240life, but without having to do the hard thing, which is obey him. And I get it. It's not like
00:17:58.120an easy thing to do at all. But yeah, that's why all women are feminists. The other thing I would1.00
00:18:04.700ask is don't you think people change over time? Of course. Yeah. So there's no guarantee you
00:18:10.000might think like this now. And I've met a lot of women like you that do think like that now.
00:18:14.240Like what? More traditional. Like we had Sarah Stock. She went super viral. I don't know if
00:18:19.160you might not be on this, but, uh, there's women that are traditional. I know, uh, Samana Stone.1.00
00:18:25.260She's one of them for now, right now. Allie Stuckey. Yeah. Um, yeah. Yeah. So the issue is0.58
00:18:32.320all of them have something to gain. So they get clout or money from saying they're traditional.
00:18:37.220So to me, that's not really traditional one. And two, that just means right now. So you're
00:18:42.580traditional right now for now, there's no guarantee you'll be traditional in the future.
00:18:46.280And a lot of women, I mean, if you go on TikTok, there's women talking about how they were traditional in their 20s and their 30s, and they regret it.