Pearl - February 28, 2025


Pearl Tells The TRUTH On Why Rollo Tomassi HATES Her


Episode Stats

Length

30 minutes

Words per Minute

177.39009

Word Count

5,345

Sentence Count

420

Misogynist Sentences

24

Hate Speech Sentences

6


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Transcript

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00:00:00.000 Now, many times, you know, people have talked shit about me over the years, and I really haven't ever responded.
00:00:06.660 I mean, now, Rolo Tomasi is a phenomenal author.
00:00:12.440 I love his work.
00:00:14.880 And when I read his work a couple of years ago, and I only talk about this publicly because my brother said I could,
00:00:20.720 but I have a brother that committed suicide, or not, sorry, didn't commit suicide, attempted suicide like years ago.
00:00:27.420 I know it doesn't, I don't sound that torn up now.
00:00:30.920 It was very sad at the time, but, you know, this was a very long time ago, so we've kind of moved on to, you know.
00:00:37.380 And when I read Rolo Tomasi's book a couple years ago now, it really made a lot of stuff, like, make sense.
00:00:45.040 You know, Alpha Widow was something that I'd seen, something that I'd experienced, and that was one of the first videos I saw of Rolo's.
00:00:54.000 And really, when I got into this space, I wanted Rolo to be my friend.
00:00:59.300 I really did.
00:01:00.340 And unfortunately, he did not accept my friendship.
00:01:03.420 Now, before I get into it, I want to read all of the people that signed up last show that are allowing me to talk about this internet lore.
00:01:10.600 Now, I will give you guys tea, because remember, whenever I bring up someone else's name,
00:01:15.740 it gives them the ability to create drama out of this, react to it.
00:01:19.620 Like, God only knows what this man's going to do.
00:01:22.340 I mean, he's done whole Spurging sessions on me.
00:01:26.080 So I try to keep other people's name out of my mouth, but I will do it when I am paid.
00:01:31.520 Yup.
00:01:31.900 Yes, I will.
00:01:33.000 Shailen, thank you for signing up.
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00:01:36.560 Matthew, another yearly membership.
00:01:39.280 Sneed, monthly membership.
00:01:41.740 Another yearly membership from Paschel, I think.
00:01:45.180 And this is on the last 14 hours, too, 21 hours ago.
00:01:48.520 Another one from Eric.
00:01:50.120 And that's perfect.
00:01:51.520 Once we get to, you know, at some point, we won't even have to do commercials, even though this is our sponsor second link.
00:01:59.480 I'm going to talk about it later.
00:02:00.980 I do like them.
00:02:02.220 So this isn't even, this isn't even like a forced sponsor.
00:02:05.800 But at some point, if we get enough memberships, I don't even have to do commercials.
00:02:09.160 And I can do a super full, I can even have a whole production team in here, but who needs, you know, what do we need?
00:02:16.480 Anyways, Lady Bird, another monthly membership.
00:02:20.140 Eric, another monthly member, monthly membership.
00:02:23.960 Robert, another monthly membership.
00:02:26.780 Marquise, 10, or a monthly membership.
00:02:30.100 Ivan, another monthly membership.
00:02:32.300 So, again, the ideal, trying to think of our show costs.
00:02:40.640 Okay, so it's tough to say because the monthly memberships and yearly are different because the yearly, but roughly we get 10 signups a show in six months.
00:02:51.200 My costs are covered and I can move out.
00:02:53.960 I have a lot of guilt in my life.
00:02:56.200 I'm going to be honest.
00:02:57.160 My haters will use this against me.
00:02:59.540 And I don't really enjoy, my dad, he's helping me out.
00:03:03.320 He built me a studio because I can't afford two rents right now to do the show.
00:03:07.820 And I have all this very high production, amazing equipment, but YouTube demonetized me, right?
00:03:13.660 So, you know, now I'm home.
00:03:15.620 I feel like a loser a little bit.
00:03:16.780 I won't lie to you.
00:03:17.620 So, you know, essentially I'm unemployable.
00:03:19.740 Although maybe I haven't tried hard enough, but I really do believe that I'm meant to work in media.
00:03:25.220 It's something that I know a lot of women quit to be content creators.
00:03:29.540 But I have a little bit of success, you know, where it actually worked out for me.
00:03:36.720 And I just believe, you know, this is something I'm meant to do.
00:03:41.280 And I really want to make a non-gynocentric media company.
00:03:47.160 That's my goal.
00:03:47.960 And I really want to bring back 90s humor.
00:03:50.340 I'd love to bring back Weinstein.
00:03:52.040 Now, I'd love to, I know I can't, but I want to give an opportunity to some of these guys that, you know, got opportunities taken away for no reason.
00:04:02.480 And I really believe that I can make this app very cool.
00:04:05.200 I know there's been some issues, and I do apologize.
00:04:07.620 We're understaffed.
00:04:09.680 But it's getting better.
00:04:10.900 I'm recently, this week, we're having someone put thumbnails on all of the content on the website.
00:04:16.200 And hopefully in the next month, we can re-upload all of my old content.
00:04:21.100 On top of that, the documentary, we just hired a new team.
00:04:26.360 I don't want to talk about my old team.
00:04:28.120 I made some mistakes in the past year.
00:04:29.740 I'll just say this.
00:04:30.440 I had to find a new one.
00:04:31.740 You know, I feel like sometimes I start these shows just telling you guys about my L's.
00:04:36.000 I don't know.
00:04:36.900 But I'm not, you know, this is what it is.
00:04:40.380 Oh, we got another monthly membership.
00:04:42.120 Thank you.
00:04:42.700 Oh, Steve, he said, so, okay, so the one thing you learn in life is you shouldn't meet your
00:04:48.820 heroes.
00:04:50.020 And I think I learned this in media, because when I joined, what I loved about red pill
00:04:57.100 content and reading red, now, let me go further back.
00:05:00.360 What is the red pill?
00:05:01.860 Now, what the red pill is, is a collections of men's experiences online.
00:05:06.440 So essentially, men got together to solve a problem.
00:05:09.200 And this was on anonymous forums, like back in the day.
00:05:13.800 So, and there were some prominent writers during this, and one of them was Rolo Tomasi.
00:05:18.840 Now, what Rolo Tomasi did was took all of the experiences of men in the forums, and he also,
00:05:25.360 and he also had his original ideas, and he wrote a book.
00:05:29.220 And Rolo, I got to say, he has amazing work.
00:05:33.300 And when I got into media, I wanted nothing more than to meet and interview him.
00:05:38.760 I loved him, and I loved Kevin Samuels.
00:05:41.020 I loved them.
00:05:42.460 I thought they were so amazing.
00:05:45.040 And so much so, but Rolo just was a little bit apprehensive with me.
00:05:49.840 Now, I have to say, this could have been, there was someone behind the scenes I had a falling
00:05:54.520 out with very early on.
00:05:56.600 And I'm going to, by the way, I'm giving you what I remember.
00:05:58.940 Some of this has been some time since it happened, so I'm just, like, some of this was three,
00:06:04.780 four years ago.
00:06:05.820 I'm remembering this to the best of my ability.
00:06:08.240 Now, this girl and I had a falling out, but do you know what's crazy?
00:06:12.240 We worked it out behind the scenes, and it never became public.
00:06:16.340 It never became a big deal.
00:06:18.180 We moved on.
00:06:19.840 So maybe this was why he was apprehensive.
00:06:22.220 I also had, I'm going to talk about this.
00:06:24.540 When I went on Fresh and Fit the first time, like, four years ago, I really had, me and
00:06:31.940 Myron had an argument, or not an argument, but he, long story short, there was a miscommunication.
00:06:39.000 And I talked about this, like, he yelled at me in front of, like, all these people.
00:06:45.500 It was really embarrassing.
00:06:46.520 Because it was, like, a miscommunication at the time, and I decided to talk about it on
00:06:53.280 the internet, and this was just not smart.
00:06:56.220 I ended up taking it down because I was, so I can understand where, like, the apprehension
00:07:02.300 came about me.
00:07:03.360 Now, this is, like, five years ago, four years, I don't remember.
00:07:06.960 And me and Myron worked that out also, behind the scenes, where Myron, I, like, sing his
00:07:14.060 praises now, because in all honesty, say what you want about those guys, but they're one
00:07:18.660 of the few that, I feel like I'm burying myself now.
00:07:22.660 Whatever.
00:07:23.140 I don't care.
00:07:23.800 I got nothing to lose anymore.
00:07:26.060 I don't care.
00:07:27.300 So, you know, Myron, so maybe this was why, I don't know.
00:07:32.340 But Rolo, I think I put on a pedestal a little bit.
00:07:35.100 I loved Rolo.
00:07:36.340 I loved him.
00:07:37.220 I thought he was so smart.
00:07:39.600 I thought his book was amazing.
00:07:41.060 It made my brother's attempted suicide make sense, because I was really mad at my brother
00:07:45.080 for a while about it.
00:07:47.040 And it just, I was like, oh, that's why he tried it.
00:07:50.060 It made that make sense.
00:07:51.460 It made, like, you know, failed relationships that I'd had before make, it all just, like,
00:07:57.400 made sense.
00:07:58.300 And I was like, wow, I want to interview him.
00:08:01.020 Now, I take this to the point where I actually scheduled an interview with him.
00:08:05.840 And he ends up like, I move, by the way, at the time, I'm full-time playing volleyball
00:08:11.380 and doing the media stuff.
00:08:13.200 And I missed a volleyball game to interview this guy.
00:08:16.200 I spent probably two grand extending my trip, moving my flights, just to interview him.
00:08:22.260 I was so excited.
00:08:23.540 And he cancels on me that week because he claimed he had COVID.
00:08:28.220 Now, I don't know if he had COVID or didn't, but I'll tell you what, I was really disappointed.
00:08:33.460 And I saw him on a show like six days later.
00:08:37.840 So I thought after COVID, you were supposed to, I don't know.
00:08:42.420 I thought, like, you know, I think he just didn't like me.
00:08:45.060 I think from the beginning, maybe it was something I did early on that set him off.
00:08:50.120 Maybe it was because in the beginning, there was some red pill ideas that triggered me.
00:08:54.940 Maybe that's what set him off.
00:08:56.680 But I just think from the beginning, he just did not like me.
00:09:00.480 I don't know why I feel like I'm a, I feel like I'm a joy to be around, but you know,
00:09:06.060 and he would just be on these streams.
00:09:08.280 He'd call me autistic, which, you know, they kind of stopped calling everybody that.
00:09:13.280 I know I'm a bit dorky.
00:09:14.820 Okay.
00:09:15.260 But have you met real autistic kids?
00:09:17.940 Like it's a little bit.
00:09:19.120 Okay.
00:09:20.360 Now, anyways, he would call me an idiot, which, okay.
00:09:24.840 I could be smarter, but it's like, Rolo, what are you?
00:09:28.180 And I think his issue was, I think for my knowledge on the topic at the time, I just
00:09:33.280 got a little bit too famous too fast where, you know, I start getting invited on shows
00:09:39.060 he's not invited on where, you know, he's been doing it 20 years.
00:09:43.780 And in my head at the time, I felt like, well, who cares who's saying it?
00:09:48.960 Let's get the message out there.
00:09:50.320 Now, I could see in hindsight where maybe I could have done a better job on certain shows
00:09:55.900 or I could, you know, I could have articulated things better, but Rolo, I don't know.
00:10:01.660 Like I've had media, like people I know in the industry talk about why he's not like more
00:10:07.160 famous, but he just doesn't have the most mass appeal, likable, you know, personality.
00:10:14.000 I don't think that's what he's in it for because even to this day, I still like the guy, you know,
00:10:19.100 I really do, but I can't, this is a one-sided liking.
00:10:22.840 So I guess I got to hate him now.
00:10:25.060 Anyways, long story short, I ended up getting very famous and I have like 20 employees.
00:10:31.100 And when I'm doing collaborations at the time, guys, I would have like three collaborations
00:10:36.080 in a day.
00:10:36.620 A lot of people don't believe me when I said that I didn't know who Nick was, but I didn't
00:10:42.140 have a media company or a team behind me.
00:10:44.880 And most people are owned by someone if you look into them, I was independent completely.
00:10:50.000 And I have no idea how this didn't like show by the people I had on.
00:10:54.720 I saw a clip of Nick talking about race mixing and that's why everyone was criticizing me because
00:11:00.760 I had him to talk about the J topic, you know, but I had him on to talk about race mixing.
00:11:06.480 And while he was there, he obviously, you know, spoke about it.
00:11:10.060 And now, anyways, before he comes on, I say to Rolo, Hey, can I invite on other content creators?
00:11:16.900 Now I'm telling you, this was stupid, but in my head, I don't like, it did not take me near as long
00:11:25.720 as these other people to build my brand and become a big, well-known person.
00:11:32.400 And I think because of that, I didn't really have the caution that other people had.
00:11:38.140 I was like, who cares?
00:11:39.440 Let's have everyone on freedom of speech, baby, you know?
00:11:42.620 And so all I did, he had a tweet about vasectomies.
00:11:45.880 And so what I did was when I asked him if I could bring on content creators,
00:11:50.600 I think he thought I was, it was just going to be people in the space or something.
00:11:54.760 He didn't specify.
00:11:56.260 I don't think it's a big deal.
00:11:57.800 So I, I send the link and I don't know who's going to say yes, but at the time I sent the link
00:12:04.020 to this live stream about this, he had a tweet about a vasectomy and how the quickest way to be a
00:12:10.880 high value man is to like get a vasectomy.
00:12:13.020 He didn't say it was the best way or the only way, but you got to admit that does, if we followed
00:12:18.960 family court, if we're being objective here, that prevents a lot of problems.
00:12:22.580 Now, anyways, Rolo ends up going on the stream and I'm just letting anyone on that was talking
00:12:30.920 about his tweet on the timeline.
00:12:32.620 So these were agreeers, disagreeers, and I thought we could all have a nice conversation and come
00:12:37.560 to a conclusion.
00:12:39.260 And by the way, I did invite his friends too.
00:12:42.320 I invited like Bryson Gray, because you know, all the Bible thumpers were very upset about this tweet.
00:12:47.900 So Bryson Gray comes on and he's Bible thumped in.
00:12:50.600 Now, Nick F also came on and he's Bible thumpin'.
00:12:53.820 I also invited Myron, but Myron couldn't come.
00:12:56.600 We'd squashed our beef at that point.
00:12:58.400 I'd also invited.
00:13:02.660 I also invited.
00:13:06.720 Who else?
00:13:07.580 Who else did I invite?
00:13:08.960 I invited MLD.
00:13:11.880 He was in Japan.
00:13:13.660 Sergio came on.
00:13:15.520 Yeah, Sergio.
00:13:16.300 I don't remember.
00:13:17.120 This was so long ago now.
00:13:18.420 Like he, what, a year and a half ago now, Glenn?
00:13:22.040 Yeah, it's been actually almost two years now.
00:13:24.180 Frickin' two years ago.
00:13:25.200 So...
00:13:25.520 It'll be two years like in March.
00:13:26.920 Yeah, guys, by the way, this is a butchered story.
00:13:29.600 This is what I remember.
00:13:30.980 I am not going back and getting every receipt.
00:13:33.220 I don't care enough about this.
00:13:34.580 Anyways, so then the way he took it was that I was trying to attach Nick to him, I think.
00:13:42.920 And this was an ambush.
00:13:44.560 Even though on the stream, I was on his side.
00:13:47.700 I was defending him.
00:13:49.920 And I don't...
00:13:50.760 Maybe I didn't moderate it well enough.
00:13:52.740 Like I think Bryson was kind of talking over him.
00:13:55.700 And oh, reclaim your throne was on there.
00:13:57.760 Who's more red pill?
00:13:58.680 You know, so my, this, my intention was to have a good conversation where we could hash
00:14:05.540 out this debate in real time on X.
00:14:07.660 Now, I could see why he would take that as an ambush.
00:14:11.400 I really could.
00:14:12.640 And there's no excuse.
00:14:14.140 I made a mistake.
00:14:15.240 I wish I didn't do that.
00:14:17.040 I apologized immediately.
00:14:18.460 I pulled the stream.
00:14:20.420 I said, sorry.
00:14:21.380 You know, I was so apologetic.
00:14:23.720 Like, I was like, oh, and I don't...
00:14:26.060 Yeah, and to this...
00:14:26.940 So then after that, he has blacklisted everybody that's associated with me.
00:14:32.520 Everybody.
00:14:33.260 I am talking about...
00:14:35.060 I don't, you know, I don't know if I want to say their names because I'm not trying to
00:14:38.960 bring anyone else into this.
00:14:40.960 But I have one person...
00:14:42.700 Glenn Lawrence.
00:14:43.940 Oh, yeah, that's what I was going to say.
00:14:45.100 Glenn's one of them.
00:14:46.540 And this is the thing.
00:14:48.620 All I wanted to do was work with this guy.
00:14:51.440 That was it.
00:14:53.360 All I wanted was him to be...
00:14:55.860 And the other thing that happened was I asked him to mentor me.
00:14:59.380 I really wanted him to be my mentor.
00:15:01.300 And then he screenshotted it and put it on Twitter.
00:15:04.720 And I was like...
00:15:05.700 And he was saying that...
00:15:08.000 I don't know.
00:15:08.420 I didn't want to do the work or I didn't want to...
00:15:10.340 And I'm like, I don't know.
00:15:11.200 I like...
00:15:12.180 I have a guitar teacher.
00:15:13.740 You know, I like having mentors.
00:15:15.500 I just...
00:15:16.440 Why would I not have someone mentor me that's, like, better than me?
00:15:21.440 You know, I thought...
00:15:22.440 I, to this day, recommend his book.
00:15:26.120 You know, it made a lot of things in my life make sense.
00:15:29.440 So, Glenn...
00:15:30.640 I have Glenn on the phone.
00:15:32.400 And Glenn is another person.
00:15:35.480 He was one of the...
00:15:36.740 I can count three people that were blacklisted.
00:15:39.920 And by blacklisted...
00:15:41.720 And I think he picks and chooses because...
00:15:44.400 I work with Myron still.
00:15:46.160 And Myron still streams with him.
00:15:47.820 So, maybe it's just, like, smaller people he blacklists.
00:15:51.660 I don't know.
00:15:52.940 But I was very hurt, by the way.
00:15:54.860 I did a reaction early on when the first video, he started, like, talking trash about me.
00:16:01.240 And I was devastated.
00:16:02.880 I was like...
00:16:03.820 I was like, this is my hero!
00:16:05.780 And then he just, you know, shit on me.
00:16:07.780 And then he just calls me fat on Twitter.
00:16:10.320 And...
00:16:10.680 Which is fine.
00:16:11.280 I call a lot of women fat.
00:16:12.520 So, it's totally okay.
00:16:14.760 Sis, you're forgetting about that entire summer.
00:16:18.020 Like, remember the entire summer after the whole tweet thing?
00:16:21.060 Like, I'm working behind the scenes because I was working as Rose producer.
00:16:24.800 And you were coming to Vegas.
00:16:26.000 And we were trying to get a sit-down between the two of you.
00:16:29.060 Remember that?
00:16:30.040 And you're like, yeah, I'll meet with him off the record.
00:16:33.680 You know, we can squash this stuff.
00:16:35.660 And you're like, see what he says?
00:16:37.240 And then I'm coming to him with it.
00:16:39.240 And he's like, keep on wanting, like, yeah, I want $10,000 or whatever.
00:16:44.200 I forgot about the picture thing.
00:16:47.120 Oh, yeah.
00:16:47.760 Oh, my gosh.
00:16:48.940 I forgot.
00:16:50.300 Holy crap.
00:16:51.460 Okay.
00:16:51.780 So, this is what happens.
00:16:54.000 This was another part.
00:16:55.680 See, I forget about all this because, guys, I didn't...
00:17:00.820 Maybe I don't remember talking about this publicly.
00:17:04.040 I don't think I have.
00:17:05.720 But at this point, I don't care.
00:17:08.080 So, what happened with Brittany Venti.
00:17:10.580 So, Brittany Venti is a girl who has just been attacking me for years.
00:17:14.660 She has made videos criticizing the way I smile, criticizing the way I dress.
00:17:20.500 Like, you know, she made a rumor about me that I dated a homeless guy.
00:17:25.820 He was not...
00:17:26.740 Okay.
00:17:27.280 I don't know.
00:17:27.740 If homeless is staying in five-star hotels, do you know what I mean?
00:17:31.800 Like, technically, but I think that's kind of, you know, offensive to people that are
00:17:36.920 actually homeless, right?
00:17:38.780 When it's off of, like, a technicality, like, you don't have an apartment lease, but you're
00:17:43.460 staying in a hotel.
00:17:45.120 Whatever.
00:17:45.820 I don't want to talk about that, but I hate this woman because, I mean, she's just, you
00:17:51.340 know, she's gone after my mother, gone after all this bullshit.
00:17:55.360 Now, mind you, I met another woman who also was not a fan of her, who had a very similar
00:18:03.440 experience because that's kind of what Brittany does.
00:18:05.500 She just does takedown videos, whatever.
00:18:07.840 And ends up, what ends up happening is this girl tells me that Brittany Venti has nudes
00:18:12.320 on the internet.
00:18:13.420 Now, what these women do is after, like, things get leaked or bad things happen, what they
00:18:19.180 do is they make a fake story and, like, pretend it was all fake.
00:18:23.280 And that's how they, like, make a smoke screen around something that really happened.
00:18:26.940 Now, it's tough because some internet rumors are actually fake and they aren't real, but
00:18:31.780 you kind of just have to use your discernment.
00:18:35.520 And so remember, so Rolo had gotten an anonymous, an example where this happened to Brittany before.
00:18:42.960 Rolo had gotten an email or something, I don't know exactly what, but he got wind that Lauren
00:18:49.980 Southern had an abortion of Destiny's baby.
00:18:53.300 And essentially, Brittany Venti comes in and makes a smoke screen.
00:18:56.520 Hey, do you want me to chime in on this part?
00:18:58.020 Yeah, go ahead.
00:18:58.640 Because I got, like, so Rolo received an email from, allegedly from Lauren Southern's husband
00:19:06.540 out of the country asking for a lawyer to, you know, that he could point to him to help
00:19:11.320 him out because he was going through some stuff.
00:19:13.840 And during that, there was allegedly another email came from this guy or this person that
00:19:20.460 worked at this OBGYN clinic that saw Lauren Southern allegedly go in there to get a, you
00:19:29.360 know, pregnancy test.
00:19:31.000 And basically, he took that and then the rumor of her and Destiny together and put the timeline
00:19:37.420 together like, oh, well, this makes sense.
00:19:40.020 This is who's, so he kind of ran with that story.
00:19:45.420 And what did I say to you, Glenn?
00:19:47.080 Did I say, it sounds credible that somebody would leak an abortion document?
00:19:52.960 What did I say to you?
00:19:54.780 You said no, absolutely not.
00:19:56.540 I said that there's no way this is real.
00:19:59.380 And what happened was, oh, you're cutting out.
00:20:02.760 Okay, he's cutting him.
00:20:03.500 But what happened was Brittany Venti made a diversion.
00:20:06.820 So I don't know if Lauren Southern was pregnant or if her and Destiny were just hooking up,
00:20:12.640 but that's confirmed now that that happened.
00:20:16.000 And so Brittany Venti, in order to like stop Rolo in his tracks, pretended to send him an
00:20:21.380 abortion document.
00:20:22.280 Now, I said that there's no way this is real to Glenn at the time.
00:20:27.180 And I guess Rolo still went public and she ended up making him look kind of dumb because
00:20:32.700 he just believed this random email.
00:20:34.740 But it was true, right?
00:20:36.580 It actually was true.
00:20:37.880 But that's how they like divert from their craziness.
00:20:42.400 Does that make sense, guys?
00:20:43.440 Like some they'll do something crazy or like something that makes them look bad.
00:20:48.160 And then in order to fake it later, what they'll do is they'll leak something that makes it
00:20:54.940 look like everything's fake, but it wasn't fake.
00:20:57.360 It was real.
00:20:57.920 But they go to extreme lengths to make you believe everything was fake.
00:21:01.680 Did I explain that right, Glenn?
00:21:03.780 Let's see if you can.
00:21:04.980 You cut out a little bit, but go ahead.
00:21:06.860 You missed the part that we're like the fake nudes, you know?
00:21:10.520 What?
00:21:10.920 Brittany Venti's fake nudes.
00:21:12.140 Okay, thank you.
00:21:12.960 Well, no, the nudes I'm going to talk about next, but I'm saying the abortion part.
00:21:16.580 That's done, right?
00:21:17.240 So, like, there wasn't even, yeah.
00:21:19.640 So, allegedly she had a miscarriage or abortion, and we assumed that that was, roll it to give
00:21:25.600 us, that was Destiny's love child.
00:21:28.000 That either she was pregnant, that she was pregnant and the baby was born and we didn't
00:21:32.880 know where the baby is, or that she had an abortion because there's no baby present,
00:21:38.340 and she aborted Destiny's baby.
00:21:41.260 It was one of the two theories that he had, but he believed that the OBGYN was a baby.
00:21:47.240 The OBGYN paperwork that he had was authentic.
00:21:51.600 Yeah.
00:21:52.000 And he was going to, like, Destiny challenged him and, like, bet him $10,000 that he can't
00:22:00.340 prove it.
00:22:00.840 And when we went to No Jumper, Destiny was at No Jumper that day as well.
00:22:07.280 So, Rolo brought this paperwork with him in case he was going to run into Destiny and thinking
00:22:13.520 that, you know, by whipping it out that Destiny would be able to, you know, have him to admit
00:22:19.380 to it.
00:22:19.820 And in my head, in my head, I just thought, there's no way that there's someone that's
00:22:25.120 going to risk their job for some internet clout.
00:22:27.480 I mean, I just didn't think it would happen.
00:22:29.900 Like, she could sue so big time.
00:22:32.380 You told me to tell him not to run with it.
00:22:35.560 I said, I said, tell him not to run with that.
00:22:38.380 Did he listen?
00:22:39.400 No, he ran with it.
00:22:40.560 So, even when he's talking shit about me, from my perspective, I'm still looking out
00:22:47.720 for his best interest.
00:22:48.760 So, what happens is, now, Brittany Venti, on top of this, try, like, she's done a diversion
00:22:54.480 thing to divert from the fact that she has nudes on the internet.
00:22:59.840 These are her nudes.
00:23:01.300 Everybody knows they're her nudes.
00:23:03.580 But, you know, she, her face isn't in it.
00:23:07.800 So, everybody, what happened is, I guess, on 4chan, they would tell women tits or get
00:23:12.920 the F out.
00:23:14.660 And I guess she chose tits.
00:23:16.580 So, you know, so, at some point.
00:23:19.060 And just, just, just for her, you know, for her sake, they're a nice pair of titties.
00:23:23.360 I'm not going to lie.
00:23:24.260 Like, they're proportionate.
00:23:26.060 You know, they're nice.
00:23:27.800 Yeah, I mean, look, a nice pair of boobs.
00:23:31.560 Congratulations, lady.
00:23:33.340 Now, somebody sent me this nude, and I send it to Glenn.
00:23:38.760 And it's on the internet.
00:23:40.000 You can Google it.
00:23:40.900 It's, it's really not hard to find.
00:23:43.340 And then, Rolo is, what did he do?
00:23:46.800 He, like, screenshotted that and was, like, tell the Daily Wire that Pearl's trying to,
00:23:53.300 like, solicit under, I forgot what the hell he accused me of.
00:23:56.440 So, what he did was, you sent me, he sent me them, and I was like, oh, shit.
00:24:02.440 I was like, man, it doesn't show her face, though.
00:24:04.740 So, you know, I don't think we could roll with that, you know, because it's like, and
00:24:09.720 you didn't say, like, hey, you know, use this or anything.
00:24:13.380 You're like, look what I found, right?
00:24:15.620 Like, yeah, because if you find some internet gossip about your arch nemesis, you're going
00:24:19.880 to send it to your pals.
00:24:21.120 Like, what the hell?
00:24:22.260 Yeah.
00:24:22.480 So, I'm like, I show it to him.
00:24:27.740 I sent it to him.
00:24:28.460 I said, look, I was like, you know, this looks like, you know, her, but it doesn't, like,
00:24:33.580 we don't see her face in it, so be careful, you know, like, I wouldn't, you know, just
00:24:37.640 wouldn't roll with it.
00:24:38.820 And he's like, where'd you get it from?
00:24:40.100 Well, I don't lie.
00:24:41.020 I said, Pearl sent it to me, you know, like, she knew that we were going through the shit
00:24:45.840 with Brittany, because Brittany accused Rolo of asking for her nudes and her underage
00:24:53.040 nudes at that in an email.
00:24:55.460 Yeah, because again, Brittany's trying to divert from the fact that she has nudes on the internet.
00:25:02.400 Like, they're on the internet.
00:25:04.540 They are real.
00:25:05.920 I know multiple people in conservative media who know that they are real, and she's going
00:25:11.020 to make some hit piece now trying to pretend that they are not real.
00:25:14.680 They're real.
00:25:16.980 She was probably young.
00:25:18.020 Yeah, so then Rolo said that you tried to give underage nudes to me, to him, right?
00:25:27.620 And before I even, like, checked it, like, the age on, or the date on the picture that
00:25:35.300 she took, because she wrote the date that this, the titties were allegedly uploaded, right?
00:25:41.220 And then I looked at that date, plus her birth date, and then I'm like, oh, so this chick
00:25:47.120 in this picture is 19, 20 years old, so they're not underage nudes.
00:25:52.460 And I tell that to Rolo.
00:25:54.740 So he already knew, but he decided to spin it as, you're trying to solicit underage nudes
00:26:01.800 to me through him.
00:26:03.000 And then he starts telling everybody I work for The Daily Wire, because at one point I
00:26:09.060 had a consultant who worked for The Daily Wire, but this was his side business, consulting,
00:26:15.200 and he quit, like, four years ago now.
00:26:18.300 It would be like hiring an editor as a contractor that, like, imagine if my editor in his free
00:26:25.480 time contracted, did contract edit work on the weekends.
00:26:29.000 I mean, it's not really the, and if I did work for them, I mean, I wouldn't have a problem
00:26:35.280 saying it, but he ended up getting community noted.
00:26:39.040 Anyway, so that's the, I think that's all the tea, you know?
00:26:42.940 And then, oh, and then he fired Glenn.
00:26:45.000 No, you're missing one part.
00:26:46.400 What did I forget?
00:26:47.200 It's, it's been so long, Glenn.
00:26:49.020 When we went to, when we went to Daily Wire, right?
00:26:52.120 Remember he, James Sexton, he tried to say, like, the whole James Sexton thing, because remember
00:26:58.140 originally the panel was going to be four red pillars.
00:27:01.220 Oh my gosh.
00:27:02.520 Then, do you know what's crazy?
00:27:04.400 He accused me of trying to get Rolo off the panel when I suggested him to be on it to begin
00:27:13.880 with.
00:27:14.620 I was supposed to have a one-on-one interview.
00:27:19.000 Nobody else was invited.
00:27:20.520 And I said, and I knew everyone in the RP was going to complain and say, Pearl shouldn't
00:27:26.240 get this collab.
00:27:27.140 So I'm like, hey, let me try to get someone else in the door.
00:27:30.420 I also agree.
00:27:31.920 There's a lot of great men in the space that I respect a lot.
00:27:35.500 Let's bring, like, I don't have a problem filming with anybody.
00:27:39.540 Let's bring them.
00:27:40.960 And then I forgot how he got some screenshot and was trying to spin it.
00:27:45.640 Like, I was trying to not let him in or, I don't know what he was trying to do.
00:27:52.020 No, what he was trying to say was that you were trying to use him to get to James Sexton,
00:27:57.860 to get James Sexton on the show with you.
00:28:00.420 And then you had them cancel Rolo off as, you know, as soon as James Sexton would confirm
00:28:07.100 or something like that.
00:28:08.380 I don't remember.
00:28:09.920 I mean, it was bullshit.
00:28:11.340 From my point of view, what happened was I, on the phone, I wish I had it in writing,
00:28:17.740 but I don't.
00:28:18.500 My assistant at the time, she doesn't work for me anymore, but she could confirm it.
00:28:22.740 I said, my assistant's the one that sets everything up.
00:28:25.360 And I said, why don't you see if we can bring these other people in the door?
00:28:30.220 And for whatever reason, at one point, Sexton was going to go, maybe Rolo sabotage.
00:28:36.780 He probably did.
00:28:37.680 I don't care.
00:28:38.300 It ended up being a one-on-one with Michael Knowles.
00:28:41.320 I enjoyed myself.
00:28:42.380 I had a good time and I left.
00:28:44.100 He can say what he wants.
00:28:45.360 But really, this guy for years, this is why you shouldn't meet your heroes.
00:28:49.360 Because this guy for years, all I wanted was his friendship and like to interview him and
00:28:55.680 just, I mean, even like Glenn could attest, I didn't even really, I mean, I would get frustrated
00:29:02.340 because I was sick of him like spreading lies about me, but I really never attacked his
00:29:08.060 character.
00:29:08.620 I can't even say I understand why he was mad.
00:29:11.560 The Nick thing wasn't my smartest move.
00:29:14.760 I could see why early on that disagreement with Myron maybe would make people skeptical
00:29:20.840 of me.
00:29:21.420 I, you know, that's, that's fine.
00:29:26.100 Yeah, but that's Emma Scissor.
00:29:28.080 Let's just get, let's get down to brass taxes.
00:29:30.420 The real problem is jealousy.
00:29:32.680 Okay.
00:29:33.500 He believes he shouldn't be where you are.
00:29:36.240 He believes that he put in the work, you know, for 20 years that he should have the
00:29:40.540 recognition, the 2 million subs that you have.
00:29:45.200 That's really what it is.
00:29:47.220 Sorry to say, but that's, that's what it is.
00:29:49.980 Yeah.
00:29:50.260 And it's really not fair to some extent.
00:29:52.680 I mean, as you guys know, I've admitted this as a woman, it's just easier in media.
00:29:57.040 Like I don't, you know, I could see why it would be frustrating for him, but you know,
00:30:03.360 I can't, if he doesn't like my show, he doesn't really have to watch it.
00:30:06.960 It's totally fine.