Pearl - Pearl Vs The OF Lawyer Goes OFF the Rails!!

00:00:00.000 why isn't fraud illegal if feminists care about equality fraud what kind of fraud paternity fraud 0.99

00:00:04.480 why isn't it illegal i think if you can i think that if you can prove that you did that you uh

00:00:10.400 specifically like conned a man and made him think it's your kid when it's not i think that should be

00:00:15.840 illegal yeah but it's not so it should be i agree with you i don't know how that makes marriage a 1.00

00:00:19.600 bad deal for men my my point is that feminists don't care about equality because they don't 0.90

00:00:24.240 care about those laws and laws that affect men feminists are here to fight we're gonna go back 0.96

00:00:28.160 Going back to marriage is a bad deal, I would still say that if the majority of women are getting custody, and I don't – in my experience, I don't think men care as much about the money. 1.00

00:00:36.680 It's really more about the kids. 0.92

00:00:37.780 Is marriage becoming a better deal?

00:00:39.080 And it's really –

00:00:40.680 Yeah, go ahead.

00:00:41.820 Sorry, go ahead.

00:00:42.560 In my experience, it's more about the children, and most men just want to see their kids. 0.97

00:00:49.720 And the way the incentive structure is is the woman gets more child support the less he sees the kids. 0.74

00:00:54.500 So based on that, we can assume that there is an incentive structure for the man to spend less time with his kids. 0.57

00:01:01.080 And there's always going to be bad actors that take advantage of bad incentive structures.

00:01:06.540 Hold on. 1.00

00:01:06.920 Let her finish. 1.00

00:01:07.620 Yeah, let her finish. 1.00

00:01:08.580 Go ahead. 1.00

00:01:08.780 There's always going to be bad actors that take advantage of incentive structures.

00:01:12.960 So my argument is it's a bad deal because of the incentive structures today.

00:01:17.040 I'm not saying.

00:01:17.380 Okay.

00:01:17.740 So I've seen you debate this now with them.

00:01:20.240 I've seen you do it with Trent, with Anna.

00:01:21.560 personally I feel like every time you didn't do fairly well so I'm just gonna ask you like what

00:01:27.380 percentage of men that get married are actually then like homeless penniless uh kicked out of

00:01:33.840 their homes like of the people that get married not of the people in the homeless shelter that

00:01:37.440 get married yes um off the top of my head I don't know okay because it's if if if most marriages

00:01:45.600 don't end in divorce and even the ones that do eight percent of those cases end up having alimony

00:01:51.020 paid and we also know that something that isn't hasn't been brought up is that alimony is actually

00:01:55.520 increasing it's six times more than it was in 2000 that women are paying men because women are now

00:02:01.020 women are now getting more money same thing with child custody or um uh child support is that the

00:02:06.440 trends are switching as women are earning more and as women are sometimes even out earning men

00:02:11.360 so right but alimony is a neutral is a neutral thing there was a case in 1980 or v or where um

00:02:20.060 there was a statue about like only men having to pay for alimony and it was struck down because it

00:02:24.620 violated the equal protection clause so is it this isn't something that is targeted at men

00:02:29.180 and it's such a rare thing that if you don't want to get married because you're so afraid you're

00:02:33.100 going to have to pay alimony you're just neurotic okay um still you can phrase it how you want men

00:02:40.860 are the most likely to pay alimony child support lose the house and lose the kids they are based

00:02:45.340 on that they are more likely you could say it's changing a little bit and i would agree but

00:02:50.060 still um i would say it's a bad deal for men because of the incentive structure today

00:02:54.220 but what percentage of men are actually having to do that i told versus the amount of men that

00:02:58.780 are getting off the top of my head i don't know we could get it for you but well okay we do know

00:03:03.340 that i just know i just know you're just going to argue with it i'm here to argue yes i was

00:03:07.740 invited to do a debate to argue this prompt now you're upset people are arguing even when they're

00:03:12.140 not personally insulting you you're still a type of nagging that drives men to suicide

00:03:15.420 Okay, so that's not a personal insult. 0.96

00:03:16.920 We can't do that either. 1.00

00:03:17.880 I think she needs to be kicked. 1.00

00:03:19.380 That was a personal insult. 1.00

00:03:20.920 She's been good so far.

00:03:22.180 Please just bear with me here. 0.52

00:03:23.200 She's mad now that people are here to debate.

00:03:25.160 Like, we don't need to call her nagging.

00:03:27.320 Let's talk about the prompt.

00:03:28.300 Is she nagging?

00:03:29.420 Okay, bye. 0.96

00:03:30.840 We're debating.

00:03:31.720 This is a debate panel.

00:03:33.280 So do I get two personals now?

00:03:35.020 No, that's not what we're doing.

00:03:36.500 Please, God, for the love of God.

00:03:37.920 Let's keep this professional.

00:03:38.840 I didn't personally attack her.

00:03:40.160 No, you're fine right now.

00:03:41.140 Yeah, go ahead.

00:03:41.560 I'm arguing the prompt that I'm here to argue.

00:03:43.640 points so it seems like you compare the absolute worst outcome that can happen to men and you

00:03:49.360 compare that to like if you're not even comparing it to like you're comparing that to the best

00:03:54.020 outcome of being single if we know that most marriages don't even end in divorce and we know

00:03:58.720 that then they get these benefits like better health uh higher income which is actually even

00:04:03.060 when you control for the fact that women take to marry men who make more money that marriage 0.98

00:04:07.040 premium is pretty well established that they make more money and has nothing to do with women put

00:04:11.800 things on men's credit card i need a source so i would say that the risk is still too high

00:04:16.420 because you don't even know what the risk is i would say the risk is still too high because you

00:04:21.080 can be put on copious amounts of alimony child support um and lose access to your kids but you

00:04:25.940 don't even know what that risk is off the top of my head the exact no but i know that you know

00:04:30.900 it's less than what she's just gonna yeah one at a time please one at a time like i would still say

00:04:35.920 that because of the risk it's too high so if if it's like a one percent risk versus like

00:04:41.520 a much larger chance that you're going to have companion you're going to have less socialized

00:04:45.300 isolation 40 of marriage well can i finish now yeah go ahead please please one at a time here

00:04:49.900 i don't want to have to switch to a timer mode where one of y'all goes but i will do that if i

00:04:53.180 so go ahead yeah go ahead finish so meanwhile we know that they have better health they're more

00:04:57.280 likely to survive like if they have things like cancer when they're married they live longer

00:05:01.400 they have companionship they make more money all of those things you're not

00:05:05.920 comparing but you're just because you don't even know the risk it's very small risk that they could

00:05:10.900 have to pay alimony and also if you have a woman that's also working then you don't even have to

00:05:15.060 pay that right even the marriage risk of divorce if you marry someone college educated it drops to

00:05:19.660 like 25 if a person's over 25 and college educated so even the risk of divorce at all becomes much

00:05:26.740 less and then even of the people that get divorced this idea that they're going to take the house

00:05:30.220 take the kids all become homeless penniless these are the stories that you focus on based on your

00:05:34.560 anecdotal experience of interviewing men in homeless shelters i just don't feel like that

00:05:39.100 stands up to anything those men don't matter it's not that they don't matter i just don't think the

00:05:42.720 average man should not get married because men in there you have interviewed men in homeless

00:05:47.520 shelters that have had bad experiences why aren't men signing up then it's interesting actually

00:05:51.420 actually they are actually pew research uh when they ask men uh they men want to get married more

00:05:56.920 than women also interesting do you know the one demographic that marriage rates have been stable

00:06:00.840 for since for women since the 1930s go ahead educated women and career women okay so educated

00:06:07.600 women signing up then men are signing up to marry the women that rate so low but they're literally

00:06:13.740 signing up to marry let me finish they're literally signing up talking the majority of the time I'm in 0.73

00:06:18.460 the middle of a sentence why are they why are they signing up to marry the exact women that you're

00:06:22.720 saying they don't want to marry again why is the marriage rate so low why is it so high and stable

00:06:29.040 for educated women um i would guess probably the incentive structure because when women stay home

00:06:36.820 they can put their husbands on more child support now so if you if you look at the incentive 0.65

00:06:41.500 structure that would make sense i don't think like they have the woman if she's college educated and 0.94

00:06:48.000 makes more money that would be my explanation but i you know would you then encourage men if 0.95

00:06:52.540 they want to get married to marry educated women um you can make a case for it but i wouldn't

00:06:57.720 recommend it at all but it's up to you as a man why wouldn't you recommend it because you can be

00:07:03.340 put on child support and alimony and lose your kids if you're if the woman's college educated 0.89

00:07:07.900 and she has a career how is she getting alimony well you could say it's less likely but they can

00:07:13.300 still do it and there's cases all the time that happens yeah and it's actually growing a lot for 1.00

00:07:17.380 women having to be put in that position and then women will probably start complaining and maybe

00:07:21.340 the divorce will get more fair so so if we actually actually i hope more men put women

00:07:25.440 on child support and alimony if we got if we got why i thought you said that it's a bad thing and

00:07:30.300 you want to get rid of it i would but it's not so what do you mean it's not today why is it better 1.00

00:07:36.320 if more women put men on alimony if it's just a bad thing um because feminists want to be equal 1.00

00:07:42.140 so i hope we enforce i think it should be equal i think if any partner decides that they're going 1.00

00:07:47.220 to stay home and sacrifice their career in order to take care of the kids and you know the judge

00:07:51.940 look at a lot of things. They don't look at gender. That would be unconstitutional to look

00:07:56.280 at gender. Why is the Duluth model used to train judges that does look at gender? The Duluth model 0.89

00:08:01.520 is used in the majority of 50 states, and it assumes that the person that has more force

00:08:06.780 is the aggressor. What does that have to do with gender? Because a lot of the judges are trained

00:08:12.620 on that, and so it automatically assumes men are the aggressors. The Duluth model does not assume

00:08:16.560 that men are the aggressors. That would quite literally be unconstitutional. That's what I

00:08:20.760 It is unconstitutional.

00:08:22.160 I agree.

00:08:22.400 They're not using that.

00:08:23.280 I agree.

00:08:23.440 If they were using that, then they're-

00:08:25.240 Hold on.

00:08:25.540 One at a time.

00:08:26.040 One at a time.

00:08:26.600 Go ahead.

00:08:27.080 I hope the fact check shows. 0.65

00:08:27.980 Yeah, but the Duluth modern, that doesn't use gender.

00:08:32.180 You are not allowed to use gender as a judge to make determinations on child support and 0.74

00:08:36.840 alimony. 0.79

00:08:37.200 Well, it's based on who has more force, which always is going to be the stronger one, which

00:08:40.620 is men.

00:08:41.180 So you think they're using physical strength to determine who to give alimony?

00:08:44.680 I don't think you know what you're talking about.

00:08:46.840 I don't think you know what you're talking about.

00:08:48.220 You're saying judges use who can beat up the other one to determine?

00:08:51.360 Yes, it's the Duluth model.

00:08:52.580 That's correct.

00:08:53.340 Yeah, I'm sure.

00:08:54.220 Okay.

00:08:54.600 It is.

00:08:55.220 Okay.

00:08:55.800 I mean, I think that's like the craziest thing.

00:08:57.880 Again, I would still say marriage is a bad deal for men because the majority of the time

00:09:02.040 men are going to pay child support, alimony, lose the house, and lose the kids in a divorce.

00:09:10.060 They're more likely to have that happen to them.

00:09:12.020 Child support and losing your kids is about paternity.

00:09:15.780 It's about fatherhood.

00:09:16.620 It has nothing to do with marriage.

00:09:17.320 it's not like if you're not married you don't have to pay child support say that one more time

00:09:21.160 I said when you child support is not about whether you're married it's about biology like if you're

00:09:26.780 the father right but even if you're not the dad you can still be put on child support if you don't

00:09:31.520 find out over the age of two um so paternity fraud are you talking about California yeah so no that's

00:09:37.020 not even entirely true it's about like when you had a reasonable so if you find out later it's

00:09:41.980 when you had reason to know that that's not your kid and then you do have a period of time to yeah

00:09:46.040 but if you don't find out if she commits fraud you still have to pay child no like if you find 1.00

00:09:50.520 out why isn't fraud illegal if feminists care about equality fraud what kind of fraud paternity 0.78

00:09:55.220 fraud why isn't it illegal i think if you can i think that if you can prove that you did that you

00:10:00.960 uh specifically like conned a man and made him think it's your kid when it's not i think that

00:10:06.620 should be illegal yeah but it's not so it should be i agree with you i don't know how that makes 1.00

00:10:10.300 marriage a bad deal for men my my point is that feminists don't care about equality because they 1.00

00:10:15.160 don't care about those laws and laws that affect men feminists we're gonna go back to marriage is 0.83

00:10:19.880 a bad deal i would still say that if the majority of women are getting custody um and i don't in my 1.00

00:10:25.240 experience i don't think men care as much about the money it's really more about the kids is

00:10:28.960 marriage becoming a better deal and it's really yeah go ahead in my experience um it's more about

00:10:36.300 the children and most men just want to see their kids and the way the incentive structure is is 0.55

00:10:43.080 The woman gets more child support the less he sees the kids. 0.69

00:10:45.500 So based on that, we can assume that there is an incentive structure for the man to spend less time with his kids.

00:10:52.060 And there's always going to be bad actors that take advantage of bad incentive structures.

00:10:57.540 Hold on. Let her finish. 1.00

00:10:58.640 Yeah, let her finish. Go ahead. 1.00

00:10:59.780 There's always going to be bad actors that take advantage of incentive structures.

00:11:03.960 So my argument is it's a bad deal because of the incentive structures today. 0.89

00:11:07.960 I'm not saying that every woman will, but you have to treat all guns as loaded, and any woman can. 0.54

00:11:12.520 Okay. So then would you say marriage is becoming a better deal for men now that shared custody is

00:11:17.340 growing like exponentially since before? Like you're looking a lot at the landscape of like

00:11:21.460 the 1980s. Shared custody is the default in many states now. And a lot of the times when women

00:11:27.040 you're saying get custody, it's because they mutually agree to that. This idea that men are

00:11:30.560 getting kicked out of their hounds and they're like houses and they're kicking and screaming.

00:11:33.500 That's not true. A lot of men, when they're getting divorced, they want the best thing for

00:11:36.760 the children. And if the mom is the primary parent, they typically agree to that. That's

00:11:41.540 why they're most of these cases are decided outside of court by them and you say oh it's

00:11:47.940 because lawyers are telling them that that's not true if there's a lawyer that's telling them that

00:11:51.720 then that's a bad lawyer because that's just not what the laws are okay so the issue you're

00:11:56.980 gonna get is a lot of men don't have unlimited funds to fight for custody so a lot of men do

00:12:02.080 make concessions um when it comes to um the custody battle because one they don't want to

00:12:08.940 fight they don't want to fight with this woman for 18 years and can keep being dragged to court

00:12:12.720 and two it gets expensive you know not what about for women not yeah let her finish please yeah yeah

00:12:17.180 not not everybody has unlimited funds um in order to get divorced um the other thing is i'm just

00:12:23.200 gonna stick to it really i think it's a bad deal because women get the majority of child support

00:12:27.880 and alimony payments and that is a you know 18 years is a long time that's a really big risk for

00:12:33.100 a man to take and so if women are getting the majority of payments you are always going to be

00:12:37.680 at risk. And an even bigger thing is the custody. You don't have any ability to, you know, the kids

00:12:43.480 belong to the woman in this country because they get custody the majority of the time. 0.94

00:12:47.640 So what I, what I would say is marriage is a bad deal for men because of the incentive 0.90

00:12:51.700 structure. They also get more child support and more alimony based on how much time they

00:12:58.000 have with the kids. All right. Yeah, go ahead. I'll let her, I'll let her, she's just saying the same

00:13:01.640 thing. You've also, yeah, go ahead, yeah, go ahead and let her talk uninterrupted to respond. You said

00:13:05.700 a lot there. Go ahead. Okay. I'd rather have a back and forth than just monologuing. Sure.

00:13:09.000 Then we have problems. So we're just, I'll just give all my points. You just read off my notes

00:13:14.920 at this point. Okay. So first of all, this, she said so many things, I don't even know where to

00:13:20.060 start. So she said that women get the custody and the, so even if you look at just marriages

00:13:24.520 in total, right? Most men don't even get divorced. So when you say it's a bad deal for men,

00:13:31.060 because men are the ones that are paying the majority of the child support and the alimony,

00:13:34.380 but you don't even know what percentage that is and we know it's the vast vast vast minority of

00:13:38.560 marriages that end in this and we also know child support is not contingent upon actually being

00:13:43.340 married child support is about being the father and then you just jump to paternity fraud i don't

00:13:48.840 know what that has to do with marriage we know that the majority of marriages actually end up

00:13:52.400 as a benefit for men they get the benefit of companionship they have they live longer lives

00:13:56.600 they have better health i don't know how you can make the case that marriage in general is a bad 0.98

00:14:00.540 deal for men and under your purview it should be getting much better as women are paying more of

00:14:05.560 the alimony as alimony payments from men to women are getting much less as shared custody is the 0.55

00:14:10.120 default and when you say women well it's very expensive it's expensive for women too right

00:14:15.080 if if both people have to go to court because they both want custody then they're both paying

00:14:20.160 these legal fees and women are more likely and women are more likely to actually have their 0.99

00:14:24.920 standard of living decrease after merit after a divorce and more likely to have to seek out 1.00

00:14:29.100 government assistance why do we have phrases like it's cheaper to keep her okay if we want to go by

00:14:33.040 phrases why do we have phrases like a good man is hard to find men are dogs what if we're just 0.98

00:14:38.120 going to do phrases this becomes a stupid argument i would agree a good man is hard to find so okay 0.98

00:14:43.080 so is marriage a bad deal for women then no because there's more at the phrase that it so 0.95

00:14:47.800 good people are hard to find in general but behind every great man is a great woman is that

00:14:52.720 you did just ask her a question sorry go ahead all right um i don't know she went through a lot

00:14:58.640 Oh, you said that most men don't get divorced because most men don't want to lose their kids, their house, and pay child support and alimony.

00:15:08.320 Is that why? 0.75

00:15:09.040 And that's always under a constant threat in a marriage.

00:15:12.380 And where are you getting that from?

00:15:14.100 The experience of millions of men everywhere.

00:15:17.500 You've talked to millions of men.

00:15:19.020 Where have you found them?

00:15:20.240 Where have you sourced these millions of men?

00:15:21.760 I've interviewed over a thousand.

00:15:23.240 Yeah, from where?

00:15:23.920 Where are you getting them from?

00:15:26.600 England.

00:15:27.080 no where are you or where are you going street um call-ins just everywhere so you're stopping

00:15:34.120 rent you've stopped a thousand man randomly on the street and they i mean i get it you you might

00:15:38.680 you might discredit it it's fine if you don't agree but i'm just telling you what i've seen

00:15:42.920 i'm asking you about your methodology for this study that you've conducted well i've been i mean

00:15:48.700 i've been interviewing people for years yeah but do you know what a selection bias is yeah i know

00:15:53.600 what that is what is it yeah i mean it's it's basically saying you're selecting for different

00:15:57.860 like people that have had bad experiences yeah so if i was gonna do a documentary on like women

00:16:03.060 who've had bad experiences i could probably interview a thousand women who've had bad

00:16:06.800 experiences that's why you can matter you can believe that and what i would say is that

00:16:11.360 you know um if it doesn't match with your personal experience then you don't have to believe it

00:16:15.640 so fine sure if it's just all about personal experience and you believe marriage is a bad

00:16:20.340 deal for men based on your personal experience and i believe i would still say i would i believe

00:16:24.800 it's a bad deal because men pay the majority of alimony child support and lose custody so that

00:16:29.880 sticks that's literally my reason i would say the majority of men that are married are gaining more

00:16:34.300 benefit than that it's a very small percentage and i believe marriage is a good deal for men

00:16:38.080 not just because of my personal experience but because of the data so what do men get out of

00:16:42.080 marriage uh they live longer they're typically healthier they're at much lower risk of contracting

00:16:46.780 a bunch of disease uh illnesses like cardiovascular heart problems even cancer they're more likely to

00:16:52.380 get preventative care they're more likely to get diagnosed sooner less likely causation no and even

00:16:57.660 when they get cancer they're more likely to survive and they're more likely to live longer

00:17:01.580 so like even prostate cancer married men even controlling for how happy they are in the marriage

00:17:06.540 they actually do live longer also they're less like they're more likely to eat well they're more

00:17:11.100 likely to exercise that to what the woman yes because even when a death of a spouse like happens

00:17:15.980 men that all that tends to go down and that actually uh rings true for men even when their

00:17:19.880 wives are like hospitalized men typically have far worse nutrition and like health when there's 0.94

00:17:24.780 not a woman in their life yeah so then why is women's obesity rate higher uh because men women 1.00

00:17:31.040 just carry more fat women have higher visceral fat percentages yeah and a lot of the fat like 1.00

00:17:34.980 you're like women gain weight after marriage yeah some of that goes to our ass and tits and it's hot 1.00

00:17:38.700 men's it's not hot and they go bald right but the average woman is like 35 40 body fat yeah because 1.00

00:17:45.520 we carry babies and we got titties no because women are overweight in this country and men aren't

00:17:51.420 women are more overweight no after if people get married who gains more weight um and when you say

00:17:58.860 visceral fat that's my point like a lot of men if they want to marry a woman and the woman gains a 0.98

00:18:04.020 little weight sometimes that could be attractive depending on the and even for men but they're

00:18:08.480 going bald too we're not going bald so now what maybe can you speak in the mic i'm sorry i just

00:18:13.240 what's funny i forgot what she said i said men go bald and they get fat so now what okay well

00:18:21.460 again men are still the ones paying child support alimony so you're just jumping so

00:18:25.940 no i mean i would still say that's the main reason so it's a better deal than it used to be because

00:18:30.520 they're paying less alimony and they're um they're getting more custody so it's getting better and

00:18:35.660 better every year worse deal still because the obesity rate in this country for women is higher

00:18:40.600 than it was 100 years ago.

00:18:42.040 Okay, and so it is for men. 0.99

00:18:43.360 On top of that, there's women with OnlyFans 1.00

00:18:44.920 and that have done sex work in the past. 1.00

00:18:47.680 That's a significant percentage of the population.

00:18:49.040 I mean, sorry, a significant percentage of the population

00:18:51.380 is doing OnlyFans.

00:18:52.900 Yeah, good job. 0.78

00:18:53.320 And men don't have to.

00:18:54.840 She keeps talking to me.

00:18:56.360 Yeah, I mean, you did just make a statement

00:18:58.180 she was responding to.

00:18:59.600 I mean, we've got to be fair here.

00:19:01.180 That's all I'm saying.

00:19:01.940 Go ahead and respond to her statement,

00:19:03.280 and then go ahead.

00:19:04.160 I don't think that men who are like,

00:19:05.800 oh, I don't want to get married,

00:19:06.600 they're so worried that there are no women 0.96

00:19:08.120 that don't do OnlyFans. 1.00

00:19:10.220 Well, it might not be OnlyFans, but, you know, it could be that she slept with someone they know. 0.99

00:19:15.160 That's a big thing.

00:19:15.920 How is that a big thing?

00:19:17.160 Men typically don't want to marry women. 0.94

00:19:19.560 And they can't find women that haven't slept with them. 0.81

00:19:20.860 Hold on.

00:19:21.120 You've got to let it answer.

00:19:22.340 Go ahead.

00:19:23.180 They can, but it's harder. 0.98

00:19:25.160 I mean, the quality of women has gone down if you look at STD rates, obesity rates, and women that do sex work,

00:19:31.740 as well as women that openly say they hate men.

00:19:35.060 I don't think women should openly say they hate men.

00:19:36.720 Yeah, I mean, but when polled, like a third do.

00:19:39.360 And I would say all of the things you just said about women also ring true for men.

00:19:43.940 Men have STDs.

00:19:45.260 Men are getting more obese than they were 100 years ago. 1.00

00:19:47.700 But we're not talking about women. 0.64

00:19:49.000 I'm asking what men get out of marriage. 0.93

00:19:50.780 So from a man's point, right.

00:19:52.080 But from a man's point of view, what does he get? 1.00

00:19:55.700 He gets he gets women that are on average overweight. 0.59

00:19:58.420 He gets a woman that could possibly have an STD or an extreme sexual history.

00:20:03.100 He gets one, maybe two kids.

00:20:05.500 and the risk of alimony child support and other legal consequences so what's the difference

00:20:12.420 between just living with a woman well i think that like a hundred years ago when you're saying

00:20:15.900 when you're comparing that for women but we're not allowed to compare the obesity rates to men

00:20:20.040 so a man who's kind of fat a man who's kind of fat could get a woman who's kind of fat

00:20:24.500 men have different preferences right like some men like women that are built you know like

00:20:30.880 linebackers some of them and others don't like that right so it's like you you I don't think

00:20:38.400 you can a lot of men I don't think it's reasonable for a man who's obese and balding to be like I

00:20:44.320 don't want a woman who's obese and balding when you compare stats you also have to look at okay 0.89

00:20:48.620 what are women getting out of it and is that a good deal a man who's like a loser and is like 0.95

00:20:53.060 well I want a girl who's a supermodel and gives me four kids I don't think he should get married

00:20:57.600 you're right i'm no disagreement okay no disagreement but what i do disagree is that

00:21:03.040 like i'm just going back to what do men get out of marriage and if you look at the std rates

00:21:07.700 no but it's still what do they get out of it they don't get companionship if the divorce rate is

00:21:13.580 like seven years and even and even and even if they do get married a good percent of women are 1.00

00:21:19.580 insufferable nagging wives that just like even like the fact that we can't stick to the rules 1.00

00:21:24.360 the quality 1.00

00:21:27.180 of women in America. 0.96

00:21:29.220 On top of that, women are coming 1.00

00:21:31.060 with a lot of debt now. 1.00

00:21:33.640 Women have debt 1.00

00:21:35.020 so financially are worse off than 1.00

00:21:36.960 before. They're fatter than before.

00:21:39.020 All I'm asking is what do men get out of marriage

00:21:40.920 today? Before they used to get 0.89

00:21:42.600 four kids and the woman reasonably would be 1.00

00:21:44.860 with him for life and she couldn't legally retaliate.

00:21:47.580 But now, 1.00

00:21:48.620 women don't get that. 1.00

00:21:50.800 Go ahead. I'll tell you once again 1.00

00:21:52.960 what men are getting out of marriage men who are not married are more likely to uh have deaths of

00:21:57.440 despair they're more likely to commit suicide they're more likely to develop a lot of diseases

00:22:02.260 they're more likely to experience loneliness they're less likely to report being happy

00:22:06.020 um never married men are not faring off better than married men on any metric at all um a self

00:22:13.200 reported study that's not good data for happiness okay so what about the fact that they're making

00:22:18.040 more money then they're they're they're living longer no even when you even when you uh even

00:22:24.400 when you factor that in there is a marriage premium right because there's a reason to make

00:22:27.460 more money because if you have more expenses you have to make more money no even absolutely it's

00:22:31.620 not like when you said to yumi you were like oh um men they don't have more savings that's not true

00:22:37.820 well i'm saying that they have more savings men women pick hard-working men anyways women pick

00:22:43.740 happy men anyways but i'm telling you even when you factor that in women pick hard-working men

00:22:49.360 women so of course he's going to make more money if he has a reason to because he has more expenses

00:22:54.980 like they the dad usually has to pay for college the dad usually has to pay for the wife's spending 0.98

00:22:59.120 habits because women do make 85 percent of consumer buying there's a there's a lending 0.80

00:23:03.680 tree survey that showed that men actually are more likely to spend on uh unnecessary things

00:23:09.740 they're more likely also to spend on like gambling alcohol drugs they're less likely to do all that

00:23:14.660 when they're married so is that not a benefit right but unnecessary according to who and that's

00:23:18.880 the thing like whoever made that survey gets to maybe gambling and drugs yeah but whoever made 1.00

00:23:23.380 that survey like a lot of women think that um cosmetic enhancements are necessary so i don't

00:23:28.140 think any survey has considered that yeah but my point is again like i'm just going off of what i'm

00:23:33.500 seeing and like women if we make 85 percent of consumer buying decisions that means we're doing

00:23:38.860 the majority of spending but so but also women are also the ones buying the things for the home 1.00

00:23:43.900 so it's not like just because the dad's like okay we need to buy uh furniture and the woman's 1.00

00:23:49.540 picking the furniture you think that's uh yeah go ahead and i guess you can get your closing in here

00:23:53.220 and we'll kick it off from there go ahead yeah so i feel like pearl just bases all of her data

00:23:57.240 on like looking specifically for men who have had negative experiences which is why

00:24:02.600 it's really important for people to understand what selection bias is and to actually look at

00:24:06.980 the overall statistical evidence for her claims. When she says, oh, it's a bad deal for men because

00:24:12.620 they might have to pay alimony, but she can't even say what percentage of people that are getting

00:24:17.000 married are paying alimony. And she also can't acknowledge that marriage might be becoming a

00:24:21.120 better deal for men as more women are having to pay alimony and men are less likely to have to

00:24:26.180 pay alimony. Child custody and, I mean, child support has nothing to do with marriage. It has 0.86

00:24:32.660 to do with being a parent and when we look at that when men are married they tend to fare off

00:24:37.640 on almost better on almost every metric when they don't get divorced even her statistics like men

00:24:42.300 are more likely to commit suicide after a divorce that's compared to divorced women if you actually

00:24:47.280 look at married men versus unmarried men right you see that unmarried men are way more likely to 0.58

00:24:52.940 commit suicide have drug addiction problems and when she says oh no women just pick men that are

00:24:58.560 healthier no actually uh you see we see that when uh spouses get together they're like risk of like

00:25:04.220 health issues are actually pretty similar because people do this thing called assortative mating

00:25:07.940 where they pick spouses based on like that are very similar to them um but when you have a partner

00:25:14.380 then those those difficult moments in your life like let's say you get diagnosed with a difficult

00:25:19.060 disease becomes easier we're made to want to love each other like pair bonding and finding a person

00:25:25.140 that you really like and want to spend time with and want to be with maybe forever, like,

00:25:29.040 I don't think you have to get married. I think those are people that typically are happier. I

00:25:33.940 think they're healthier. I think it is an unhealthy view on relationships for either side to hate or

00:25:39.520 have a distrust of 50% of the population and close themselves off to one of the greatest

00:25:44.540 parts of the human experience, which is partnership with the opposite gender. 1.00

00:25:48.780 All right. Any closing thoughts? 0.92

00:25:51.040 I would say that 100 years ago, men got a debt-free virgin with no tattoos,

00:25:55.700 and the marriage lasted for life.

00:25:57.400 Today, the average marriage is seven to eight years, 1.00

00:25:59.320 no matter how much these women try to gaslight. 0.99

00:26:01.800 If it was such a good deal, a bunch of men would be super excited to sign up,

00:26:05.100 and they're just not going to.

00:26:06.160 You're going to see the marriage rate and the birth rate continue to fall.

00:26:08.740 And civilization, we are on a collapse, 1.00

00:26:10.480 and what women are going to do is they're going to try to gaslight you into marriage. 1.00

00:26:14.680 But, yeah, this is just kind of the way it's going. 1.00

00:26:17.260 All right. Thank you so much.

00:26:20.640 I would like to take a break.

00:26:22.180 I didn't take a leak.

00:26:23.180 Yeah, I'm going to go to the bathroom.

00:26:25.360 I'll let y'all go first. 0.86

Pearl - August 30, 2026

Pearl Vs The OF Lawyer Goes OFF the Rails!!

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