Pearl - Professional PUA Matt Cross Joins The Sitdown

00:00:00.000 what up guys welcome to another episode of the sit down today i have matt cross the world's last

00:00:07.360 pickup artist millionaire entrepreneur and 350 000 subscribers on youtube welcome to the show

00:00:13.600 thanks for having me pearl so when did when was your first cold approach

00:00:18.000 oh i'm about to date myself here guys 1989. so i've been doing this for a long long time

00:00:27.520 And what red-pilled you, or how did you get into the space?

00:00:31.500 I just wanted to meet women, to be honest with you.

00:00:33.680 So my parents have been married, but they're still married to this day.

00:00:37.220 So I wanted, like everybody else out there, to find a wife.

00:00:41.100 And I was thinking, okay, but I was selective. 0.91

00:00:44.380 So I felt like the more I learned about female nature and just what they respond to,

00:00:49.000 the better my success rate.

00:00:50.660 And so that's what got me involved in it.

00:00:52.820 So you were looking for a wife originally?

00:00:55.040 Originally.

00:00:55.720 You know what's crazy?

00:00:56.800 when i went to my first um pua boot camp yeah that's what i found is like the media kind of

00:01:01.680 paints it like all the guys just want to get laid and i would say the majority were looking for a

00:01:06.880 girlfriend or a wife like they weren't going like i don't know it really bothers me the way the media

00:01:12.080 paints pickup artists and um paints like the red pill guys because to me i feel like they're doing

00:01:19.280 you guys are doing god's work that's what they said yeah yeah yeah i mean i i think i mean the

00:01:26.240 The whole Manosphere, if we go back, we do like a little historical tour here.

00:01:30.400 The whole Manosphere started with the Pickup Artists.

00:01:32.460 Like we literally launched the Manosphere.

00:01:34.380 A lot of guys don't know that, but it started with the Pickup Artists and the forums.

00:01:37.660 I was going to ask if the forums came first or the Pickup Artists or for, it was the same

00:01:42.100 time, like Roosh v. Roycey.

00:01:45.340 Roosh, yeah.

00:01:46.560 It was the forums.

00:01:48.000 So the first forum that I remember joining was in 19, it was either 97 or 98.

00:01:53.860 It was called the SoSwab forums.

00:01:56.240 and that's the first place where I saw mystery so mystery started posting back

00:02:02.120 then and then guys would post like their infield reports and what was working and

00:02:06.440 what was what wasn't working so that's where it pretty much began and then a

00:02:10.520 few years later here comes Neil Strauss the book the game project Hollywood and

00:02:14.100 all that and what do you think are the biggest misconceptions that people like

00:02:17.680 what do they think the red pill is and then what do they think pickup artists

00:02:20.660 are and what would you say it actually is well the biggest min kids misconception

00:02:25.340 with the red pill is, you know,

00:02:28.560 obviously they think it's misogynistic, right?

00:02:31.100 The biggest misconception with pickup artists 1.00

00:02:33.220 is that we're just manipulating women, 0.94

00:02:35.240 we're just like trying to get laid,

00:02:36.820 and that's far from the truth.

00:02:38.400 Like you said, most guys,

00:02:39.800 if you go to any of these pickup boot camps,

00:02:42.000 I mean, even the guys who find my channel,

00:02:43.520 want to learn stuff, get into my programs,

00:02:45.600 these guys are looking for girlfriends' wives.

00:02:47.960 I mean, every once in a while, to be honest with you,

00:02:50.140 there will be a guy who's like, I just want to get laid.

00:02:52.660 I'm like, okay, I get that, yeah.

00:02:54.140 Yeah, the guys want relationships and they're always coming out of like a long term, serious relationship where they got hurt, dumped.

00:03:00.060 Nobody comes looking for the PUA's or the red pill, for that matter.

00:03:03.840 It's always like they're coming from a divorce, breakup or something like that.

00:03:06.460 What is the most common way that people find the red pill?

00:03:11.480 Besides YouTube?

00:03:13.200 No, I'm not like what's like the first question they ask you, how do they find you?

00:03:17.480 Oh, what's their life circumstance? Is it a divorce usually? Are they young guys? Is it a mix?

00:03:22.900 It's usually older guys are coming from a divorce. They're usually wanting answers. I've had a lot

00:03:29.860 of guys who are on the verge of just just ending it and self-deleting unfortunately and then they

00:03:34.740 say oh I found the content and I found these other people in the manosphere and you know and then it

00:03:40.500 started to make more sense to them because nobody really teaches men this right like I've always

00:03:45.620 said like when it comes to PUA like your parents your teacher parents teachers society it's they

00:03:50.420 They don't teach you this stuff. 0.84

00:03:51.440 Nobody helps men.

00:03:52.640 So we're kind of like an underground movement, right, where people have to find us.

00:03:56.540 And even then, we're ashamed for it.

00:03:59.180 And what would you say are, like, the basics that you start with when men come to you?

00:04:03.560 As far as a cold approach?

00:04:05.360 Yeah, cold approach.

00:04:06.760 The basics are just, it's going to sound so basic, but getting out of your house.

00:04:12.880 A lot of guys are just so introverted and isolated these days.

00:04:16.160 They don't want to socialize.

00:04:17.780 and in order to get good at any type of socializing period,

00:04:24.060 you have to go out.

00:04:25.040 You have to leave your house.

00:04:27.440 Do you think that cold approach is dying?

00:04:30.700 Yes.

00:04:31.260 Yeah.

00:04:31.860 What do you think of the people that say it's a waste of time?

00:04:34.240 Have you seen that on the forums where they just say it's a waste of time?

00:04:38.260 Usually those are guys that have not done it.

00:04:40.340 I mean, those are guys who either haven't done it or they did briefly,

00:04:43.560 they didn't get a lot of success from it,

00:04:45.580 and then they started to get a little bitter.

00:04:47.340 so it becomes kind of like a cope and this is kind of how because first there were pickups

00:04:52.460 pickup artists that created the manosphere and then after that immediately came mig tau so i

00:04:56.860 don't know if you know this but mig tau really came out of guys who were part of the pua movement

00:05:01.980 and they became disillusioned with the fact they weren't getting success and then they started to

00:05:06.380 think like okay well i don't even care about this i don't want this anymore because there's a lot of

00:05:10.220 rejection you deal with especially just starting out that's like the biggest hump guys need to get

00:05:14.860 over when you start first uh doing cold approach is you need to get over the the hump of rejection

00:05:20.860 you know and so but that goes with anything now it's like everything's on uh on dating apps right 0.91

00:05:26.300 but you still deal with rejection do you think it's better because i would imagine young women

00:05:31.020 are more on their phones than they are in person so is it better now to do the dating apps over

00:05:37.500 cold approach um no to be honest with you okay there okay so right now i'm gonna date myself

00:05:43.740 here i'm 54. if you asked me 10 years ago or even 15 20 years ago would i still be doing this i'd be

00:05:49.740 like no absolutely not it's ridiculous right like 50 are you kidding me and here i am

00:05:56.860 and the reason why is because not only did i just get out of a long-term relationship six months ago

00:06:01.660 but um it's so crazy to me like the field is just wide open because no guys are not doing this

00:06:08.380 anymore yeah i mean i i've said this on my channel that guys had way better game in 2010

00:06:14.940 than they do today i never would have thought that a million years like i think the game that guys

00:06:18.620 had back then was way better guys were bold guys were willing to learn guys wanted to meet women

00:06:23.260 whereas now they're like screw women i totally get that you know and i don't want to date i don't

00:06:27.980 want to have anything to do with this but then they're still on dating apps so it's like yeah

00:06:31.980 you do so you think men have less motivation to learn this stuff now than before oh yeah absolutely 0.62

00:06:37.500 And do you think it's because female nature is more out in the open? 1.00

00:06:40.540 I always say female nature is that we're just big, fat, slut whores. 1.00

00:06:47.500 You got a point. 1.00

00:06:48.660 Some more, some less. 1.00

00:06:51.600 But if we just go wild, we just get fat, become whores. 0.99

00:06:56.220 And, you know, but there's like a winning side of it, right? 1.00

00:06:59.060 You could be the guy she's a whore with, you know. 1.00

00:07:01.900 You can. 1.00

00:07:02.640 Yeah.

00:07:03.160 um but you know i think like in the past that just wasn't okay wait do you think in the past 1.00

00:07:10.200 women were always like this it just wasn't out in the open or do you think that women were

00:07:15.820 different back in the day okay that's a great question uh because i i get that sometimes 0.99

00:07:19.900 they're like okay women i always hear guys go oh women weren't like this back you know when

00:07:24.080 you started and i said well they had it yeah they did they were but they were more they were just

00:07:31.440 not as uh open open and vocal about it uh where it's like okay because back then when i first 0.99

00:07:38.200 started cold approaching women even the ones that were feminists wanted to look like feminine they 1.00

00:07:44.540 wanted to look pretty they wanted to they want to lean into their feminine energy um whereas now

00:07:50.320 it's like they're doing the exact op and they want to look like the girl next door you know 0.93

00:07:54.720 so even the women back then that were 304 still wanted to look like the girl next door whereas

00:07:59.720 now it's like the opposite where they don't even care enough to hide it no no and even if the girl 0.99

00:08:05.400 is like a girl next door type she will want to lean towards looking like a 304 yeah yeah it's 0.98

00:08:10.440 totally back so you think that women have always been like this it's just not as much out in the 0.60

00:08:15.000 open like it is today uh they that and they were not encouraged to be like this unless access 0.90

00:08:22.280 oh yeah yeah oh my god i'd imagine the whole phase ended like because do you know what i when i was

00:08:27.720 in high school i got grounded and so i was stuck in my grandma's house for like a month

00:08:31.800 and i drove all these old ladies to the bar

00:08:36.360 and so there's two things i learned one uh-huh um 70 and 60 year old women it's still like

00:08:42.520 like they sounded just like me and my friends sounded like at 16. yeah 17 years old never grow

00:08:48.680 up man and but it was just they were dating guys in the nursing home and their version of getting

00:08:53.640 ghosted is they'd go on a date and he died oh like that was literally a problem they talk about

00:08:58.680 but but the stories they would tell it sounded like their whole phases ended at like like super

00:09:05.560 young because they had to get married by 20 and start popping out kids so all the drama they

00:09:09.960 talked about when they were young was like in high school you know what i mean yeah yeah and

00:09:14.120 the thing that kept women in line i mean even before all this feminism and everything was um 0.99

00:09:18.760 just basic shame right because I mean if we go back a hundred years ago to the 1.00

00:09:23.020 1920s they had I wore the women call back then like flappers or something 1.00

00:09:27.260 like that women who are you know that we're just kind of didn't want to settle 0.76

00:09:31.660 down and you know but still they we had shame so we don't have shame you know

00:09:35.240 it's celebrated it's totally celebrated yeah and you can like build a brand off

00:09:40.000 of it like you can get divorced and yeah build a brand oh man we could make a ton

00:09:44.800 if we just turn on the red pill and go, you know what, we're wrong. 1.00

00:09:47.980 Women, yes. 1.00

00:09:50.120 Give me your best pandering speech. 1.00

00:09:52.500 Pandering speech? 1.00

00:09:53.240 Yes, if you have a minute to pander to women, what would you say? 1.00

00:09:57.180 Women, forgive us. 1.00

00:09:59.800 We are a bunch of misogynists. 1.00

00:10:01.680 You're right.

00:10:03.400 Watch a clip form this.

00:10:04.960 See, you said it.

00:10:06.280 I always say, I would say that you're so special and awesome,

00:10:09.560 and he didn't deserve you, queen.

00:10:11.000 i mean yeah that's pretty much what they hear like daily nobody ever corrects women anymore

00:10:18.320 yeah nobody yeah you know and if you really really want to get a woman attracted to you i mean you

00:10:23.440 just you have to you know you can't pander to her how do men go about correcting a woman

00:10:29.920 that's such a lost art like it's it's yeah it's so non-existent almost yeah and when i when i ask 0.67

00:10:39.040 like some of my friends that are kind of run by their girlfriends why they just don't see a point

00:10:42.920 because she's not going to listen anyway yeah but that they they yeah i mean there's an old saying

00:10:48.300 you teach people how to treat you yeah so that needs it that needs to happen the very beginning

00:10:52.540 like um right now i just entered the dating world again and so i'm dating like three or four different

00:10:57.100 women and they're all like checking my social media and going hey i didn't know you know i was

00:11:01.280 in vegas for like two weeks so i like flew in four or five different women and i i kind of put on my

00:11:06.400 ig that i was like guys were joking with me and saying hey are you getting away with this and i

00:11:11.560 said hey i'm single i'm auditioning girlfriends i want to know i want to see certain behaviors

00:11:16.120 play i don't just jump into relationships you know like a lot of guys they they operate out

00:11:20.660 scarcity so the first cute girl who likes them they jump right in right whereas when you have

00:11:25.320 abundance and this is why i tell guys this stuff you know as much as they they bag on the pua stuff

00:11:30.380 it works and it's like it puts you in abundance where you're not choosing out of scarcity and you

00:11:34.960 can kind of make women wait and you know wait for things to play out like my last

00:11:38.740 girlfriend it took me six almost eight months to finally commit to her I was 1.00

00:11:42.820 like looking for certain behaviors that women are really good at like fronting 0.55

00:11:47.440 to try to get you to buy early but I'm like let me see this play out over 0.97

00:11:51.160 several months like putting them on probation almost yeah you know six

00:11:55.360 months is almost short they're like people do like like two years yeah well

00:12:01.780 if i was gonna get married well yeah give me a start on that but if i was yeah that would be at

00:12:06.980 least so what's your filtering process now like how do you like what are things you completely 1.00

00:12:13.300 filter out so the very first thing that i filter out for is uh accountability and i know women have 0.87

00:12:19.060 like very low accountability but some women have like subpar accountability where nothing is ever 0.99

00:12:24.660 their fault you know so when i start getting to know a woman i will ask her questions about 1.00

00:12:29.300 her last relationship why that ended so I just look for certain cues and that's

00:12:34.580 the thing I learned a lot about cold approach you read a lot of human

00:12:37.160 behavior and you know you become like almost like a human lie detector and you

00:12:40.580 can catch people and like okay you're contradicting here whatever but but yeah

00:12:45.860 whenever a woman tells you about an ex or whatever back in the day in my blue

00:12:50.420 pill days I used to automatically believe her right we're taught to now

00:12:53.460 it's like I don't care what the guy did I always think like okay I want to hear

00:12:57.800 his side i don't yeah i'm just gonna buy this yeah do you find because in my time interviewing

00:13:03.480 it almost like when people are caught in a lie it's almost really obvious in hindsight

00:13:08.500 yeah like there's this idea that liars are super smart and intelligent and just

00:13:13.520 in my experience not like most people aren't that smart in general

00:13:18.220 so like most of the time i don't know when people like stuff comes out about people or whatever i'm

00:13:26.500 never that surprised are you or do you disagree no yeah no I agree with you I

00:13:31.060 mean when yeah when it plays out the way it does it's kind of like okay I could

00:13:34.780 I saw that coming yeah yeah so you're newly single yep you're gonna get

00:13:44.200 married no I wasn't gonna get married okay but I mean I was telling you

00:13:48.400 earlier that I'm Catholic you know that's something we talked about later

00:13:51.560 But, yeah, I almost feel like I'm not completely against marriage, but I would not involve the state.

00:14:00.580 I would just want to do, like, a private ceremony.

00:14:02.760 And even then, I would want to be like, you still have to sign something, you know.

00:14:08.480 And even then, I would be nervous, you know.

00:14:10.280 So I don't know.

00:14:10.860 We'll see what happens.

00:14:12.460 So what were you – you want to talk about Catholicism?

00:14:15.960 If you want to. 0.57

00:14:16.800 I was going to save that until the end.

00:14:18.220 I mean, we could talk about that real quick and then jump back into the other stuff.

00:14:20.660 Oh, we can, we can come back later. It's okay. Sure. Um, okay. So what are the biggest things

00:14:27.440 that men keep doing to put themselves at a disadvantage when dealing with women?

00:14:32.580 Say that again. What are the biggest things that men keep doing to put themselves at a

00:14:37.120 disadvantage when dealing with women? Oh, they, they operate from, um, an approval seeking frame. 1.00

00:14:43.620 I see that with even guys in this space, even guys who follow this stuff when they're in their

00:14:48.740 relationships they still the woman's still in charge they're still afraid they're still

00:14:53.280 again they're operating out of scarcity because if you truly were not afraid you would not be

00:14:58.140 afraid to just you know like call her out or walk and I've always said that the number one

00:15:03.800 superpower you have as a man is the ability to walk away and a lot of guys will say oh yeah if

00:15:08.540 she does this I'm walking away and then they won't walk away yeah it's hard for them it's very

00:15:12.000 difficult right yeah it's it's really difficult um and I get that because you bond with a woman

00:15:17.820 and everything else and what that where that comes from is a lack of prioritization so whenever i meet

00:15:22.700 a woman these days and i've been there i've been there my blue pill days um and i i learned my

00:15:29.500 lesson it's just you you always have to be ready to cut it because that's the only thing that will

00:15:33.180 keep a woman on her toes keep her in competition anxiety keep her from losing respect for you is

00:15:38.620 just knowing that okay this dude can bounce if i act up have you ever been like have you struggled

00:15:44.380 with that where you have a hard time walking away like once you've invested a certain amount

00:15:49.040 yeah i mean even my last relationship that ended after five years and uh we kind of like went back

00:15:56.540 and forth a little bit towards the end and then i i finally i i mean i had to face myself because

00:16:02.620 i don't i feel like i always tell guys on my channel unlike some of these other dudes in

00:16:07.600 this community i'm like i live what i teach and i want to stick to that because i don't want to

00:16:11.620 like a fraud um and so i felt bonded to her which we were and i felt like we had a great connection

00:16:19.380 and it was just it was past its best due that's what was it called like the best before date it

00:16:24.500 was past all that uh and um i just had to follow my own advice and leave and it was hard it was a

00:16:30.420 little hard for a few weeks but um but i'm fine yeah why do you think women get over breakups so

00:16:36.740 much faster than them because they have options yeah they have options and in most cases it's the

00:16:42.500 woman ending the relationship right and a lot of guys think like you know a lot of guys are just

00:16:47.540 blindsided when the woman ends the relationship and i always i always tell guys especially guys

00:16:51.380 who find my my channel my work they hire me for coaching um i always tell them like okay she did

00:16:56.420 not just decide to leave you overnight this started you know six months a year sometimes two years or

00:17:02.020 longer where the woman starts drifting out emotionally i call it drifting where the woman

00:17:06.740 starts like she stops investing in the relationship she starts withholding from you like withholding

00:17:13.140 affection love she might not call you babe as much and then it gets to the point where she doesn't

00:17:16.740 call you babe at all hun you haven't heard that in a while and then you just notice she's just not 0.94

00:17:21.540 really you know doing herself up for you anymore but when she goes out she brings up the feminine 1.00

00:17:26.100 energy she's like dressed to the nines and it's like whoa where's this coming from because she's 0.99

00:17:30.180 getting validation from other men how can men um how can men like tell that's coming

00:17:40.580 uh the when the woman starts pulling back on you yeah like do you think it's always that obvious

00:17:46.740 no uh because women are really really subtle about it um i mean guys have like guys that i've 1.00

00:17:52.900 i was just coaching this one guy he got to have a seven-year relationship and i his wife was like a

00:17:58.100 master of drifting out and he was convinced she was cheating so

00:18:06.180 um he he sent me like all her text messages i was like going through text messages and i'm like

00:18:11.940 i i mean it took like a lot of time and effort to try to figure out what was going on here

00:18:17.060 because he was convinced she was cheating and i said no she's not cheating on you physically

00:18:21.940 so he was relieved and i go but she's she's emotionally cheating and you know as guys you

00:18:27.860 think like physical because we cheat physically right right but women don't cheat really physically 0.90

00:18:32.740 at first they cheat emotionally you know and that's what deteriorates the relationship so a

00:18:38.020 guy i've coached a lot of guys who've cheated on their girlfriends but continue to provide

00:18:41.860 and protect for her they weren't planning on leaving the relationship at all and they've met

00:18:45.700 better options but hotter women younger women they were like i can't leave them i can't leave 1.00

00:18:49.860 i got i i love her i can't leave you know whereas the women when a better option comes along she may 0.99

00:18:56.500 not leave initially and she may not have sex with a guy but she will start drifting and emotionally

00:19:01.540 removing investment from him and start even if there's not another guy in place which in this

00:19:07.300 case there was not another guy that's why it was so mystifying there was nobody else nobody at work

00:19:11.620 or anything and i had to like look through her text messages and then um that he was sending me

00:19:16.500 by the way and then i noticed like little emojis here and there i go okay did you catch this and

00:19:21.380 he was like no i didn't catch i had to train him like i trained a lot of guys i said okay

00:19:25.620 she responds to this dude at work he goes would you like to go to lunch sometime he downloaded

00:19:30.580 like her text messages uh he sent me screenshots okay so he had access to her phone yeah yeah and

00:19:35.780 then he showed me and he was like see nothing's going on and i go uh you better look at this and

00:19:40.980 i i was like okay this he goes see the guy asked her out she said i'm busy and i go

00:19:45.380 She said, I'm busy.

00:19:46.680 Not, I'm married.

00:19:47.560 Not, I'm with somebody, I'm married, I'm in a relationship.

00:19:50.020 No, she said, I'm busy, you know, I'm busy, I'm busy this week.

00:19:53.760 Right.

00:19:54.100 I go, do you see that crack?

00:19:55.740 She leaves the door open.

00:19:56.820 Because she might not be busy later. 1.00

00:19:58.780 And I go, women know instinctively to shut it down, right? 1.00

00:20:02.100 And I've dated a number of women, really attractive women, and I learned this from them. 0.99

00:20:06.460 They would say, oh, this guy messaged me, blah, blah.

00:20:10.180 And then they would say, yeah, you have to shut these things down.

00:20:13.140 like you just tell them no i have a boyfriend i'm not interested that's shutting it down not

00:20:18.180 oh i'm a little busy this week but not just leaving the door yeah slightly cracked so you're

00:20:22.980 very subtle women we emotionally check out before we leave yeah yeah yeah long before and it's not

00:20:29.380 always obvious so men like that's why a lot of times when they get divorced they don't see it

00:20:33.300 coming no rarely and this in this particular case his girlfriend that was sending him messages just

00:20:38.180 the week before totally normal like hey what time are we doing this and hey what time are we going 0.87

00:20:42.820 to the dog park and hey you know it looked he that's why he felt blindsided and then she dumped

00:20:48.340 him oh yeah what are some other trend what are some other trends that you've seen on the ground

00:20:53.380 like coaching guys because i'm sorry i always say that like the people that just being a commentator

00:21:03.620 i always find that i get the best information and things that you wouldn't normally think of

00:21:07.380 from people that are on the ground actually working with guys in the dating field because

00:21:11.380 you almost hear about the trends before the studies and the news pick them up so is there any like

00:21:15.940 increase any trend you've seen that you don't think is being widely like talked about maybe

00:21:20.660 that guys are coming to you with uh i mean just the ones that we talk about here in the red pill 0.97

00:21:27.060 community with like the hoflation and women's entitlement just being completely asinine 0.96

00:21:32.420 delusional out of this orbit you know it's just insane how women just yeah their entitlements are

00:21:37.860 to the roof and a lot of people blame like dating apps and social media so that's another thing i

00:21:42.500 hear uh guys are like oh man you know if it wasn't for dating apps and social media and i'm like no

00:21:48.340 that is not the problem i go because that's like blaming you know um a smith and wesson for for

00:21:54.820 killing somebody it's not the you know it's not the weapon that kills a person it's a person

00:21:58.260 behind the trigger and in this case it's not dating apps and social media that's just technology

00:22:03.300 what it is is and i've said this before is the biggest problem that we have now the biggest 0.99

00:22:10.020 threat to humanity are the simps the simps are the ones who are propagating women's entitlement 0.91

00:22:15.620 that they're always responsible for this stuff they're dying to give women money like die like 0.93

00:22:20.580 it's there's like a line like young women it's there is a line to give them money time attention

00:22:27.620 and resources uh yeah it's it's it's pretty frightening i i'm um i have three younger sisters

00:22:34.020 so even yeah so i have a sister that's 10 years younger and it's crazy the messages she gets

00:22:38.340 you know what i mean like just from like free housing sir and um it's yeah it's just kind of

00:22:45.700 crazy yeah yeah i will so this girl i'm dating right now she said this guy offered to buy her

00:22:52.020 like a bmw or something in dubai and i was like let them buy it for you by a bmw um what do you

00:22:58.740 think is going to be the end result of hoflation and if it's not the dating apps what is the main

00:23:03.540 contributor um well like i said it's it's it's it's really the guys that cannot live without

00:23:12.660 female validation like fee like the approval of a woman you know and a lot of people accuse pickup

00:23:17.860 artists of that they're like oh you guys are a bunch of beggars and everything i'm like no

00:23:21.540 because guys, maybe the guys who were just starting out learning stuff,

00:23:25.160 but the guys that I've met, that I've gamed with, they've since retired.

00:23:29.000 That's why I call myself last PUA now.

00:23:30.880 But they've all since retired, but even those guys I used to game with

00:23:34.580 that were masters at this stuff, they knew, like, you reach a certain level

00:23:39.340 where you know instinctively, like, what will kill your odds,

00:23:42.320 kill your chances, kill attraction is exactly that,

00:23:44.960 giving her any sort of praise uh pedestalation approval validation uh so i always teach guys

00:23:53.840 don't just yeah what would you say to people that say that's not sustainable in a long-term

00:23:58.880 relationship not giving someone praise validation no it's totally sustainable

00:24:06.800 yeah no it's totally sustainable i mean yeah you just have to like dilute i mean not dilute it but

00:24:11.440 you just have to sandbag it instead of like a lot of guys are always like oh i love you i love you

00:24:16.240 like every single day i love you i love you you know returning text messages yeah or like what

00:24:20.160 can i do what can i do yeah yeah and i think women just instinctively gravitate towards guys

00:24:28.000 with frame and unfortunately in most of this case it's going to be the bad boy who doesn't care

00:24:33.120 right because that guy is just demonstrating the qualities of guy with frame you know that

00:24:37.920 doesn't need her approval for validation do you think that dating apps have been a bigger impact

00:24:44.400 or the obesity epidemic and do you think that ozempic is going to change that

00:24:51.440 oh you talk about the shot where people lose weight on that yeah

00:24:56.560 i wouldn't i i mean i don't think ozempic will change that because i mean unless you fix the

00:25:02.720 core of your weight issue it will just kind of come back i mean yeah yeah like i over the past

00:25:09.920 couple of years like i you know since i lose my animal cash r.i.p cash um he used to be on my

00:25:15.280 chin a lot but i lost uh probably like 20 pounds because i was getting fat after for a little while

00:25:20.880 there living the good life yeah so um but i don't think that yeah so do you think obesity or social

00:25:28.400 media has been a bigger impact on the dating market obesity or social media probably social

00:25:35.360 media okay yeah yeah because these women are just i mean even fat it's so crazy to me like 1.00

00:25:42.160 like dude i mean back in the day fat women they were nice they would be nice i mean there were 0.98

00:25:47.840 a lot of uh i had this this this buddy that i used to do game with in the 90s named smiley this black

00:25:53.760 dude he was a chubby chaser so this guy was like really i was blown away though sometimes because

00:25:59.600 i wasn't in the fat chicks but he would get like they were just like yeah he's black yeah this guy 0.58

00:26:04.080 smiling so he's this guy's smiling and uh he's such a cool dude and i did learn a lot from him

00:26:10.000 actually and he he didn't consider that was before we had this pickup artist term thing but he

00:26:15.120 he was i mean every week he had a new like beautiful though like they weren't like fat

00:26:20.960 gross they were like maybe 30 40 pounds overweight but beautiful face every time i met one i was like

00:26:25.840 wow dude if she just put her on the treadmill man she goes hot you know and he was like yeah that's

00:26:30.320 my idea they never lost me but um even him last time i talked to him was like five years ago or

00:26:36.240 something he was like catching up with me and he was like dude yeah he he was like oh uh the game

00:26:41.840 has caught up with me and i can't even get the chubby chasers anymore because they think they're

00:26:45.520 like they're out of my league really yeah yeah this is a good looking dude too he's kept himself up

00:26:50.640 yeah it's even worse because of the catfish epidemic i think people are starting to think

00:26:55.600 they look like they're filters yes yeah that's my big thing with dating apps too is just there's

00:27:01.840 just too many filters and it's like the entitlement on dating apps and women are just getting message

00:27:08.240 like crazy this is why i you know i continue to stick with cold approach every single girlfriend

00:27:12.960 i've had up until like the last one i've met through cold approach never on a dating app

00:27:17.200 what are the best ways to read women and things that you should look out for the best ways to

00:27:23.820 read women uh first thing i look for is positive energy i i want to see like like good energy coming 1.00

00:27:30.020 from the woman a smile that's huge if the woman's like this and just poor body language negative 1.00

00:27:35.660 body language i just don't like that and i understand like some women are defensive and 1.00

00:27:39.900 i picked up women i picked up a feminist like last year i think it was funny she was like calling me 1.00

00:27:45.880 for picking up her friend then i ended up picking her up um so wait she was calling you out for 1.00

00:27:51.320 picking up her friend yeah yeah how did she call you out oh she wanted she wanted to be picked up 0.67

00:27:56.760 yeah yeah i think she was jealous of the attention and i was like nagging her friend hard and she was

00:28:01.080 like how dare you say that to a woman and i was like what's your problem you know i was pretty 0.98

00:28:06.040 playful about it and i just kept my frame i kept my frame we kept going and then she was like come

00:28:11.160 outside i want to talk to you i go yeah let's go outside let's talk this out right and we came out

00:28:15.080 there i was like yeah you know and we were going back and forth a little bit and then um yeah at

00:28:20.200 one point i just said you know what this is this is bs and i just grabbed her and i started kissing

00:28:24.200 her yeah and i thought my my student was like right next to me he thought that was hilarious 1.00

00:28:27.720 and i go do you see do you see even like a feminist you could turn her into yeah because

00:28:32.040 hate's closer to love right it's closer to love yeah it's impressive though because you know

00:28:39.320 i'll see sometimes i'll see guys do that where a woman's really angry angry and they flip her and

00:28:43.800 and they don't like react or anything,

00:28:46.660 but that's difficult to do

00:28:47.860 when they're like screaming at you instead.

00:28:49.740 Like, I don't know, just doing interviews over the years,

00:28:52.020 it's hard when someone's like in your face

00:28:54.080 to just, you know, not break frame.

00:28:56.800 Yeah, but that's what really just flips the attraction switch

00:29:02.100 is just being able to stand there and, you know,

00:29:05.300 not, cause that's what she wants, right?

00:29:07.680 She wants to, and in a really like kind of instinctive way, 0.94

00:29:11.760 I feel like women, when they do that, even though they will never admit it or they're not consciously aware of it, they're testing to see if you will hold your frame.

00:29:21.580 And when you do, it's like, whoa, you know, because no guys do that. 0.96

00:29:24.760 No guys hold their frame.

00:29:26.040 And I've always told guys before, you know, as somebody who's like, I'm not I'm not a Chad, I'm not six feet tall or anything like here.

00:29:33.340 But I've done really well because like any guys who's been doing this long enough, you just learn to control your emotions.

00:29:44.380 And I've always told guys the secret to picking up a dime piece like a perfect 10 is just to be able to be like non-reactive while she's in your face and not wanting anything from her, not trying to get anything from her, but just standing there and just being like normal.

00:30:01.320 can you talk a little bit more about how to get into that headspace of like not wanting it like

00:30:07.060 not having the i don't know the best way to ask the question but like not having like a needy

00:30:11.520 energy it takes a lot of work um it takes a lot of approach uh this is definitely not something i

00:30:17.300 was able to do in the beginning uh for many years and and really i've talked about this with other

00:30:22.940 really really like master pickup artists that i've done cold approach with it's like you know

00:30:28.300 if only we were able to do this in the beginning and they would all agree like yeah there's no way

00:30:32.220 because um there's there's two actually two types of cold approach so when when you're first starting

00:30:37.720 out you're you do what's called spinning the attraction or spinning the magic where you're

00:30:41.580 like you're like you know sometimes i do this for fun i'll like enter a venue take the girl

00:30:46.000 do a little pua spin that we used to do back in the day i'll dip her just kind of like pump her

00:30:50.740 buying temperature as we used to call it uh so that's called like spinning the you know spinning

00:30:55.660 attraction whereas once you get really good you don't have to do anything it's almost like the 1.00

00:31:01.020 more the less effort you put into it the more you could get attracted to you but women are just 1.00

00:31:07.260 really socially calibrated in a way they could feel like if you're faking trying to be solid 1.00

00:31:12.220 right they could feel it but then when you sit there and you have a conversation with her

00:31:16.780 and you're not reacting at all like none no part no particle of you know of your energy or vibe is

00:31:23.020 is wanting anything from you know you're just having conversation that's highly attractive

00:31:27.500 yeah we can feel it right yeah yeah you totally can yeah even just the smallest little thing

00:31:33.180 yeah you can feel it yeah because it's it's like you can feel that they it's like what does this

00:31:38.780 guy want and it's it's better when it's like i could say yes or no and you're not going to crash

00:31:44.620 out or you're not going to get met you know yeah it's really i mean this stuff was never written

00:31:50.380 about either and the thing that like me and my my really uh experienced wingmen have uh noticed too

00:31:56.940 like when we used to really go out is that uh like a woman before she would leave a venue with you

00:32:03.820 and like leave with you go wherever you want with her um having just met her a lot of times

00:32:10.300 the woman this this has happened several times by like different women and it's just none of this

00:32:15.660 is ever written but they'll say some they'll they'll do this like they'll go um they'll uh

00:32:22.380 they'll like look into your eyes they'll be like and they're like looking for any like flinching

00:32:29.580 they want to see if like your eyes like dilate or anything because if they do if you show any

00:32:33.900 hint of like nervousness or anything like that she's like no i'm not coming see ya you know

00:32:39.340 it's over yeah but once you maintain that frame she's like okay where do you want to go let's go 0.98

00:32:43.740 all right yeah do you think that puas can ever be monogamous

00:32:51.020 do you guys have worked so hard at your career it's gotta be so difficult to just put it down

00:32:55.820 yeah that i mean that's the thing it's like you and you know and there was a there was another

00:33:02.220 youtuber um i forget his name but he has a pretty decent following too he's done like hater videos

00:33:07.260 on me and he was like yeah what is matt gonna do what is them gonna do like how is he supposed to

00:33:10.940 ever bond with a woman and uh i didn't disagree he's kind of right because you know it gets to

00:33:16.700 a point where you pass i don't want to say the point of no return i mean i'm starting to lean

00:33:21.340 more into my faith now uh because of what i've seen from women like this wait like like the

00:33:27.180 porn stars the porn stars go to church the puas oh lord but uh yeah yeah so uh it's it's really

00:33:38.220 tough because once you've done this long enough and you master a skill it is hard to put it down 0.95

00:33:42.700 it's like where do you stop um yeah in my last relationship that went five years i mean it was

00:33:48.780 pretty tough but that's what kept her on her toes too i was like okay you know and we had a few

00:33:54.380 fights where i was like i'm like literally ready to walk out the door and i'm cold approaching in

00:33:59.020 about 30 minutes you know if you do this again i was literally yeah well do you know what it is

00:34:04.300 in my experience just knowing guys in the space i think it's difficult to put down i think it's

00:34:10.900 damn near impossible forever once guys get to a certain point yeah yeah i don't want to say it's

00:34:16.100 impossible because there are guys that arguably have but i don't know no no these guys i'm like 0.88

00:34:21.260 these guys have worked like a decade some of them at this skill to get really good at i mean how on

00:34:27.560 earth are you just gonna it's like me i played volleyball really for 10 years i could never not

00:34:32.980 yeah right what if you got married and like husband's like no more volleyball

00:34:37.520 I don't want any more volleyballs in this house yeah so do you do like the

00:34:43.480 one-sided monogamy type thing is that I mean I'm pretty transparent about like

00:34:50.140 when I'm single I'm super transparent like right now I'm you know I posted my

00:34:53.960 ID stories on in Vegas and there was like one two girls that said they didn't

00:34:59.140 want to be on it at all and I said that's fine I won't feature you but the

00:35:02.820 other girl's like yeah i don't care yeah um and yeah then they check my ig and then they they saw

00:35:07.540 other women they got they were like getting upset with that i was just wondering if it's it's gotta

00:35:11.460 be i wondered if it's harder to do that type of relationship now because of social media where in

00:35:17.620 the past you couldn't see it right you know if so if the husband had a side chick at work you'd never

00:35:22.580 meet her you don't know yeah but now you can literally find her profile and learn everything

00:35:27.060 about her if you want or you could be at a cold play concert and be on the jumbotron like that

00:35:32.820 Yeah. So I was just wondering if that, like, I don't know.

00:35:39.420 I mean, I always tell guys like, and I have said this on my channel,

00:35:42.500 don't fall on my footsteps.

00:35:44.140 Don't try to become like a master pickup artist.

00:35:46.520 And I don't think that's ever going to happen.

00:35:48.180 I mean, not right. Yeah. I don't see that happening anymore.

00:35:51.320 I think we're past our, you know, our, uh, our little era here.

00:35:56.120 Um, and I'm getting ready to wind down my business in the next five,

00:35:59.480 10 years because I see on the horizon like things are just shifting towards technology and I think

00:36:05.740 we're talking about like AI girlfriends and so I don't see this being sustainable. What do you mean

00:36:10.940 shifting towards technology and what do you mean not like could you talk a little bit more about

00:36:16.040 that? Yeah yeah so I've mentioned this on other podcasts that I've been on that because they've

00:36:22.140 asked me like where do you see this going with women's entitlement do you see it getting any

00:36:26.380 better and i'm like okay well it's definitely not going to self-correct because i we're past the

00:36:30.360 point of no return yeah like you know i mean it's just like there's no way guys are going to wake

00:36:35.440 up because there are a couple of red pillars here and we're telling guys away no it's not going to

00:36:39.360 happen yeah and have you ever tried to red pill a blue pilled guy it's like they'll die on the

00:36:44.300 hill of simping for their wife oh and they'll take you down oh my god yeah it's oh yeah i've

00:36:49.820 lost a lot of friends like i just lost like childhood friends i've unfriended me like oh

00:36:53.820 I can't believe it like well what exactly you know I always try to have a

00:36:58.500 conversation I'm pretty civil I'm like what exactly you know and I want to have

00:37:01.700 a conversation they're like nope yeah yeah sorry about technology oh

00:37:06.360 technology okay so technologically and I've had a lot of pushback on this but I

00:37:12.320 mean I say this and this is detrimental to my own business do teaching cold

00:37:16.680 approach and pick up and I've been doing this for years but I am preparing just

00:37:21.880 as you know um an investor i've done i've done well teaching this stuff i you know i made a lot

00:37:29.100 of money teaching pickup for years it's definitely been winding down the last few years because guys

00:37:33.620 are not wanting to do this stuff anymore and obviously you know since the me too stuff um

00:37:38.180 and i see the entitlement and the hoflation coming to an end not through men suddenly

00:37:46.480 no longer simping but um technology and that's something that i'm heavily invested in right now

00:37:52.200 is ai technology i'm actually making just like almost the same amount i do for my business with

00:37:58.180 just investing in ai companies you know and uh i also invest in robotics companies quantum computing

00:38:04.340 that's still i mean this is all still new technology but there are companies in overseas

00:38:08.760 in china in particular there's a company called real botics that uh is producing along with

00:38:16.400 about a half a dozen others that are producing AI humanoid girlfriends where you can just basically

00:38:23.280 create her to look like whoever you want. You want to look like your ex-wife? You can do that. 1.00

00:38:29.340 You want to look like some dream girl you had growing up? You weren't able to get? You're never

00:38:33.480 able to get? You can do that. And I see the dating market crashing, at least for women, because

00:38:41.520 I'm a big believer in Murphy's Law. What goes up must come down. And women have added so 1.00

00:38:46.300 good for so long now, especially with dating apps and social media, that something is bound to 1.00

00:38:52.900 correct. And it's not, again, it's not going to be really like human intervention. It's going to

00:38:58.000 be technological. And I believe that because the majority, the reason why women are so entitled 1.00

00:39:03.160 with the social media and dating apps, if you look at the guys who are like liking all their

00:39:08.240 photos and dropping hearts and comments and, you know, you're a beautiful girl and all this, 0.98

00:39:13.440 you go queen they're all simps right yeah they're all simps they're guys who don't get women to 0.65

00:39:20.760 begin with so these are going to be the first guys who are going to exit the market and get 0.52

00:39:24.260 their little ai robotic girlfriend and right now just cost wise it's it's a little pricey it's i

00:39:30.420 think the the company that i was researching was doing one for 176 000 but obviously with all

00:39:36.380 technology everything gets cheaper as time goes by just like vcrs back in the 70s they were like

00:39:41.580 three thousand or four thousand dollars and all of a sudden you know 10 years later you could pick one

00:39:45.260 up for 150 bucks so i once these become more mainstream they become the price of a used car

00:39:51.420 i believe the technology is going to rapidly progress because right now they look pretty

00:39:57.260 they look pretty obvious and they move robotically but once the technology progresses

00:40:01.660 i believe within the next five to ten years um definitely within a decade it will be hard to

00:40:08.460 tell between is that a real woman over there is that is that a humanoid is that a guy they call 0.84

00:40:13.340 it gynoid female so do you just think that the genders will just keep going further apart and 0.99

00:40:18.220 would you say in a way women have sex robots with dildos um yeah i mean yeah women uh yeah i 0.91

00:40:27.340 they're already yeah exactly with the dildos but um what i was thinking too is it's funny because 0.97

00:40:33.500 there will be a huge market for men when it comes to these ai girlfriends and wanting to program

00:40:37.660 her to be feminine and submissive and compliant non-combative whereas for women you know you would 1.00

00:40:43.580 think women would be oh they'll just get their ai boyfriend but those will have the biggest returns 1.00

00:40:47.820 ever because of women if you ever ask a woman what she's looking for in a guy like she'll tell you 1.00

00:40:52.220 emotionally available shows up is consistent in all this it's always the exact opposite of who

00:40:59.740 she dates so whatever a woman says like yeah i always tell guys like whatever ask her what she's

00:41:04.460 looking for a guy in a guy do the be the complete opposite of that in a way isn't chat gpt kind of

00:41:10.940 like ai boyfriends now because we're like using that as therapists um like it's chat gpt like

00:41:19.340 people are literally using that for friends the thing about chat gpt is uh it's pretty woke so

00:41:25.100 the chat gpt has a lot of women will love it oh yeah they'll love it they could use chat gpt if

00:41:30.300 they want um just like you know confirmation bias but that's why they have like therapists and don't 1.00

00:41:35.420 even get me on starting on therapists it's like every woman i mean that's a red flag in itself

00:41:39.500 right it's like three therapists on their dial and the debt how do you pay for that and the 1.00

00:41:48.860 um okay but so do you think the genders are going to go further and further apart

00:41:53.580 that and like what like what's 10 years from now going to look like 15 years from now is it just

00:41:58.860 going to be like do you think there'll be a crash where women you know start losing weight and 0.97

00:42:02.940 becoming feminine or it's just going to be further and further apart well i the reason why women are 1.00

00:42:08.700 the way they are right now pretty insufferable like when it comes to modern women um pretty 0.99

00:42:14.540 intolerable and i mean i do cold approach still i enjoy women's company i like going to you know 0.96

00:42:19.100 i i just i love dating women but i i know what i'm dealing with i mean just like any other guy

00:42:25.100 who's been doing this long enough it's like you know it's we're no longer living in fantasy world

00:42:30.380 but we still want to enjoy like the company the feminine energy you know um but we're not living

00:42:36.540 in this delusion where we think like oh she could love me or oh i'm safe with her no you're not

00:42:45.820 yeah okay so what do you think is going to be the end like what's life going to look like in

00:42:50.540 15 years 15 years uh okay so uh what i'm betting on and i'm betting with my own money on this is

00:42:57.500 that you know when it comes to ai uh guys the simps are going to exit the market for the most

00:43:03.940 part not everybody there's always going to be some guys that are going to stick around and want to

00:43:07.780 date women uh yeah personally for me i i think it's a little demonic like satanic to have these

00:43:13.180 dolls um so yeah i personally the dildos came first so men are just doing it back they are

00:43:20.060 yeah but like walking living like yeah robot but um but yeah men do everything better so

00:43:26.860 obviously theirs is going to be better of course

00:43:29.120 yeah women will just kind of follow along or you know um but yeah i i just i see like uh simps

00:43:38.400 exiting the market and uh the only guys who will be left i mean it won't be enough to keep the

00:43:43.900 market artificially inflated like it is right now because i feel like women's entitlement is

00:43:48.740 totally are artificially inflated, right? It's like women are just nuts. It's so crazy. Like 1.00

00:43:54.280 they'll get hit on by a bunch of like low tier guys, dorky guys, guys they would never date or 0.99

00:44:00.460 have sex within a million years. They will use that to just increase their own like value in 0.97

00:44:06.060 their heads and think like, oh, I deserve a Chad. Yeah. It's like, really? Yeah. It goes deeper than

00:44:12.080 that though, because there's so many programs that make us high status in society. So we're

00:44:17.400 so used to talking as if we're high status and they're all fake i even think about when i was a

00:44:22.880 kid um my brother's a better athlete than me but i got all the accolades like i got to go to state

00:44:27.720 i got to be all conference i got i got all these accolades right yeah but my brother's a better

00:44:32.900 athlete but like it's fake because women's sports is like it's um it doesn't make money you know

00:44:40.500 what i mean like it's like a fake league yeah it's like so you're high on b yeah so it's like

00:44:44.780 you're like we're all artificially given higher status from a young age so we think we're more

00:44:50.520 important than we are so how do you how do you go from community like i was even thinking about um

00:44:56.760 i did i'm doing this event in october and i'm the headliner and i'm debating lauren southern

00:45:03.440 oh nice and i was just thinking about how ridiculous good luck but i was thinking i'm

00:45:09.600 terrence pop is um he's opening and i'm like why is he not the headliner he saved 500 men from

00:45:15.120 suicide you know what i mean right right but it's like you can't help it it's the world we're in

00:45:19.600 but it's it's crazy because i love telling women that we're all dei hires

00:45:27.280 it's like my favorite thing to do is just saying you don't deserve your job

00:45:32.160 because nobody like nobody said that to us ever right right and i'll be the first one to say that

00:45:39.120 i'm a dei higher you know what i mean like yeah yeah because there's no way i'd be as famous if

00:45:43.840 i was a guy i wouldn't and it just it just is what it is yeah but you know um how do i put it like

00:45:51.120 it's from the youngest age like we're automatically high status and nobody tells us

00:45:56.000 that it's the fake you know what i mean yeah and and i mean if you ever watch like these college 1.00

00:46:01.600 campus debates where the women like i mean they're only in college some of them are like 18 19 there 1.00

00:46:07.360 i mean you would think at that age you would still be wet behind the ears have some humility 0.76

00:46:11.680 or something and be willing to just ask questions i mean when i was that age i i just admitted i 0.99

00:46:17.040 knew i know nothing i'm just what you know yeah educate me whereas these women will get up there 0.92

00:46:22.160 on the mic and completely just to any thinking person it embarrass themselves but to the general 1.00

00:46:27.680 population it's like they're just full of their like self-importance and arrogance and it's like 1.00

00:46:33.200 and you're totally wrong too it's like it's just weird like women have that like just 0.94

00:46:37.760 i think air of self i think it's social media though because men have to earn they have to 0.70

00:46:43.200 walk into a room and earn the right to speak in a way because no one's going to listen to them if

00:46:48.000 they're not saying something intelligent or important or whatever but we can just talk and

00:46:52.400 people listen i know and on tick tock i mean the top podcasts none of them are talented

00:46:59.360 call her daddy she's not talented i know you know so it's now you get the inflated you know

00:47:07.280 like i think a quarter of gen z women make content on tick tock okay so one out of four women like 0.90

00:47:14.640 think they have important things to say between 18 and 25 you know yeah yeah so but i don't know 0.96

00:47:20.640 just think of the psychology that it's like putting us in the front of the room and it's all fake

00:47:26.080 yeah and it's so weird to me because at least back in the day i will say that i met a number

00:47:31.760 there were a lot i still do every once in a while but it's so crazy how it's like once in a while 0.99

00:47:36.080 but back then most of the women i would like cold approach and meet just there was a just sort of a

00:47:42.160 a bit of humbleness there wasn't this like oh yeah you know um just arrogance about him

00:47:49.120 well we have female teachers too female teachers yeah so i mean they favor women they're going to

00:47:55.280 Right, right. And they're the ones that are brainwashing the kids in the schools and, you know. 1.00

00:48:00.360 Do you think it's brainwashing or do you think it's a lack of character?

00:48:04.220 Both.

00:48:04.960 Okay. No, because I always hear conservatives say that women are brainwashed. 1.00

00:48:10.300 And I'm like, I don't know if women were being brainwashed to bang Chad. 1.00

00:48:13.820 Well, yeah.

00:48:14.380 I don't think that really takes much.

00:48:16.560 I mean, yeah, I've made some controversial statements in the past where YouTube has demonetized the video.

00:48:21.740 i think i had one where i said moral honor morals and ethics are a masculine trait and that women

00:48:27.660 don't possess these naturally yeah they don't possess nobility character honor morality um

00:48:34.620 i've often said you know left to their own devices which we do see happening in real 1.00

00:48:38.540 time left to their own devices women will always gravitate towards what's evil chaotic wrong 1.00

00:48:45.260 destructive um you know anti-social whereas men will even if they're bad they'll we'll try to 0.98

00:48:53.020 gravitate towards what's good or right learn and learn your mistakes right and try to be better

00:48:58.460 just try to be better yeah because we're held accountable do you know what and i think it

00:49:02.780 starts pretty young i don't know how young but i i saw i've been reacting to body cam footage

00:49:07.500 recently yeah and i saw an 11 year old girl and she called the cops and said she was kidnapped it

00:49:13.820 just she was just lying and she made it up as a joke but but all of the cops came in and um the

00:49:20.620 dad it actually gave me hope because the dad actually said arrest her oh yeah no because how

00:49:27.500 many dads would simp out because she started to blame her little brother who was like six

00:49:32.620 and i'm like this 11 year old is already blaming the guy and she's already lying to police and

00:49:38.780 where is she learning this from though you know mom i don't know but the both of the parents

00:49:44.220 it gave me a little bit of hope because it's really rare you see the parents like discipline

00:49:48.300 the kids now yeah like so many of them oh she didn't mean it where they were no they were so

00:49:52.860 pissed yeah yeah i think she got like they did have to arrest her for juvie because that's like

00:49:58.940 a pretty big crime if a helicopter's involved you know anything but the i don't know i just

00:50:05.260 it was just kind of crazy because i'm like 11 years old we're already lying

00:50:10.300 like how young does it start yeah i mean she's getting these behaviors from somewhere but um

00:50:16.060 yeah as far as like the simp dads go not correcting their daughters i mean that's yeah

00:50:22.300 why do you think that is that men will correct their sons but not their daughters

00:50:27.340 i think it's just the culture that we live in you know where it's like there's women are not

00:50:31.500 really held to the same standard that men are and they're just not held accountable for anything

00:50:36.380 you know so just even in relationships like the first time i call a woman out for something she's

00:50:42.060 almost kind of startled like what um one of the women i was dating uh i think it was like a few

00:50:49.500 weeks or a month ago i went to this top gun event in san diego she wanted to come and i was like no

00:50:53.660 i wanted to go by myself i said like i just wanted time to myself so i went to this top gun 40th

00:50:57.900 anniversary thing and then i had told her i'm like it's in san diego and then she messages me

00:51:03.180 like a few days later and she says are you still in vegas and i was like and i just messaged are 0.56

00:51:08.140 you stupid you know i mean but literally that's what i meant i was like you know i'm in san diego 1.00

00:51:15.660 why would you ask me that you know so i said yeah are you stupid what are the most common things you 1.00

00:51:20.780 correct women for um usually uh just not taking accountability or i don't know why women have such 1.00

00:51:31.580 a problem with just owning something right or just having some sort of just baseline uh ownership of 0.96

00:51:39.500 something they've done wrong i don't know why they just can't apologize for anything it's like

00:51:43.020 nothing's ever their fault they always like blame shift or deflect well what's like the actual

00:51:47.420 situations um okay just common ones that men might go through and then maybe how you'd recommend they

00:51:54.700 handle it or how you've handled it in the past shoot as far as like what women do um

00:52:00.620 that you know they would need to be called out on i mean at this point pretty much everything 0.71

00:52:07.580 i mean it's like it's like what would they not need to okay give me one situation give me one

00:52:13.340 man oh my gosh um shoot uh that happens in the early dating process yeah well see in the early

00:52:24.060 dating process like that's so when you first start dating a woman you're in what's called

00:52:30.860 the honeymoon phase like any relationship right that's pretty much the best version you will ever

00:52:35.820 see of her you will never see that version again so enjoy it while you can't guys that's the best

00:52:43.020 version. I love that, by the way. We call it new girl energy, right? It's like new girl energy.

00:52:48.200 Like she's just leaning into you. Everything you do is awesome. You're so cute. You're so adorable.

00:52:52.800 The way you sneeze and the way you cough. And then like a few months later, it's like, oh my gosh,

00:52:57.720 you cough so much. Yeah. If he leaves, you wait three months, he might miss you when the new girl

00:53:02.780 wears off of whoever he meets next. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the fun part about dating again. It's 0.97

00:53:09.740 like just, I love the new girl energy. It's like every, it's just, it's awesome. You know,

00:53:14.380 there's no baggage yet. There's no, um, nitpicking. There's no resentment yet. It's,

00:53:20.720 it's beautiful. Okay. But early stages, what are we correcting her? Oh my gosh. There's a lot of

00:53:26.220 guys that are in relationships that watch my channel. So let me ask you, like, what are some

00:53:30.060 behaviors you've done early in the relationship? Uh, I think you have not been directed on that

00:53:36.160 guys are afraid no i'll tell you you know my problem is sometimes i love to obviously doing

00:53:42.000 this job i love to give my opinion and men don't always want it really why not i mean because it's

00:53:46.880 because if a guy tells you that he wants to do something one way and sometimes i'll think i'm

00:53:51.320 just offering another way to do it but it's like no he's giving like he's giving his opinion because

00:53:57.100 he's thought it through and usually more than you yeah so just listen yeah so that's true like

00:54:02.920 logistics yeah logistically yeah yeah yeah okay so yeah that i mean yeah yeah because sometimes

00:54:09.880 you don't mean it like to be disrespectful but like guys kind of take it that way yeah yeah so 1.00

00:54:16.040 yeah now that you bring that up okay so logistically i i find like some women i mean a lot of them

00:54:21.560 appreciate it but the fact that i i'm kind of a planner i just like to do what i like to do

00:54:26.040 and um so i'm like okay we're gonna do this we're gonna go to the dodgers game we're gonna go

00:54:30.520 on this boat ride we're gonna you know uh go for a walk and most times they're okay with it sometimes

00:54:37.880 they they're like we always do what you want to do i'm like okay well what do you want to do 0.90

00:54:41.800 you know and they don't have a plan i'm like all right shut up yeah and that drives guys crazy you

00:54:46.360 guys love their routine yeah guys you know i was it's interesting because i grew up um without 0.90

00:54:53.560 i didn't have a lot of basic life skills because i grew up with nannies

00:54:56.520 and i grew up yeah and we had like cleaners and stuff geez and so but i learned i learned yeah

00:55:02.000 i learned it as an adult yeah yeah but i find that like um men just really like their routine

00:55:08.700 so if a guy already knows how to cook they don't usually want you to yeah if they don't then they

00:55:14.080 might but i found that like most guys i've dated like they prefer to cook and i'm not i'm not a bad

00:55:21.280 cook but it's because they love their routine like men just love they like to do the same thing over

00:55:27.000 and over again no you're totally right about that because like a few of these women i'm dating right

00:55:31.340 now want to cook for me and i keep telling him i like to eat out every single day i'm just late i

00:55:36.160 don't even like i can cook but i don't like to yeah there's two types of guys i find it's like

00:55:40.320 they either eat out and that's all they do or they like to cook themselves yeah no i like to eat out

00:55:45.480 every day even if it's just like five guys or something and some of these girls get tired of

00:55:48.920 like you're always going to five guys like yeah you're free nuts what do you 1.00

00:55:55.340 think about hookers and do you like prostitutes do you think that's gonna 0.98

00:56:00.560 impact the economy or the hoflation I guess I mean I was having this 0.95

00:56:06.680 discussion with Jonathan from the it's complicated channels quick shout out but

00:56:10.640 um yeah he and I kind of pushed back on him because he said that he was of the

00:56:16.320 mindset that um and i see where he's going with this like if we legal if we just legalize

00:56:20.700 prostitution it will you know it will crash the market inevitably and i'm like ah yeah but

00:56:27.420 does that create i'm always for does this make society safer or more dangerous does this make

00:56:33.040 society more um virtuous or does it make it more degenerate i'm like this would just make things

00:56:39.100 more degenerate yes i know in my opinion i'm like man sexual transmitted diseases would fly

00:56:44.400 through the roof but maybe the wives would start putting out oh yeah well yeah see that's it but

00:56:49.520 i feel like that's kind of like a that's kind of like a core issue with the guy and the relationship

00:56:55.780 and you know when the woman doesn't put out because i've had a number of students like that

00:57:00.340 like the woman just stops putting out and i'm like okay a woman will only put out if she's

00:57:04.860 attracted to you still and so this is something you need to fix you know it's you can't like twist

00:57:11.900 her arm to have sex with you or you know manipulate her to have sex with you it's you kind of want her 0.54

00:57:17.260 to just want to take her clothes off naturally like not because you're you know you're putting 0.91

00:57:22.500 her in a binder or anything like that do you think it once a guy is in a sexless marriage

00:57:26.860 do you think it's over or have you had clients where they can actually fix it uh very rarely

00:57:32.860 very rarely yeah yeah very rarely and then they start going to relationship counseling i always

00:57:37.620 tell guys no when your wife goes wants to go to relationship counseling you're doomed don't even

00:57:41.420 go just tell her like absolutely not just you know correct yourself yeah um so you mentioned earlier

00:57:48.700 you've been watching the catholic church interviews and you're catholic i am um

00:57:57.420 um yeah and i've leaned into my faith more just because i see what's going on like the world and

00:58:02.380 just that you know just a lot of what i feel are just like almost demonic forces and uh i've been

00:58:08.460 watching a lot of these uh uh pretty freaky like uh youtube podcasts i think like sean ryan's like

00:58:15.100 with these catholic exorcism priests where they like you know they have like a demon crawling

00:58:20.220 up a wall i mean it's crazy stuff um and just because i've coached so many guys i it's just

00:58:27.900 ludicrous to me i mean it and it's their wives or their girlfriends they're telling me about

00:58:31.980 it's ludicrous because i will meet these guys all you know and that's another thing is like just

00:58:37.100 because they're hiring me i don't automatically side with them i still want to hear both sides

00:58:41.340 of the story like so i can just kind of formulate a good strategy moving forward and i always ask

00:58:47.820 like okay what was your part in this i mean nine out of ten times they own it they're like well

00:58:52.460 you know yeah i'm like did you do this and yeah yeah i did you know and then okay and for mother

00:58:58.460 for the most part a lot of these guys are just good guys solid guys their smb is higher than

00:59:03.340 their chick you know they're now in their 40s or 50s and and the woman will like they have a

00:59:09.180 good relationship she will still look for reasons to leave and enter the dating market thinking

00:59:14.220 she'd get to get on like bumble or tinder and find a guy at 51 years old who's equally you know as 0.90

00:59:21.580 impressive as her boyfriend who sticks around and invests in her and it's like no honey you're just

00:59:26.140 going to become a sperm bucket for guys on the dating apps um and the last guy coach out of

00:59:31.100 seven years um his his girlfriend ended up calling me and she was like are you coaching him and i

00:59:36.620 said yes and then she said tell him this this and this and i said okay i get that i listened to her

00:59:42.220 and then i said ma'am um what exactly was wrong in your relationship she really couldn't point

00:59:48.860 anything out and then she was trying to like lie about certain things and i said okay uh i'm a

00:59:54.460 professional dating coach pickup artist i i understand these these dynamics intersexual

00:59:58.940 dynamics i've been studying this stuff for three decades i minored in psychology um no i like

01:00:06.300 you're you know you let's be realistic you're she was actually 51 and you just turned 51 you've got

01:00:11.100 a great relationship with this guy you're bonding together he was in the he was on the verge of

01:00:15.580 buying a home he put in an offer for a home so he was going to move her into the house she's living

01:00:19.420 in this tiny studio apartment and she throws it all away because apparently she just says i want

01:00:25.820 my freedom and independence because she felt like you know and i told i i said well at the end of

01:00:31.420 this at the crux of this is a woman only leaves when she thinks she can upgrade that's what she's

01:00:36.220 thinking and i'm like she's 51 you're not gonna upgrade from this guy you're gonna end up on the

01:00:39.820 dating apps and become a an sb sperm bucket for the guys on the dating apps well yeah it was kind

01:00:46.140 of blackpilling for me because when i got into the space i didn't really understand why men didn't

01:00:50.860 want to get married because most people i grew up with were married and this was like a lot's

01:00:55.820 changed in the last five years which is even like so this is five years ago you know seems like a

01:01:02.460 yeah but it feels like a lifetime with how open you know sex work has gotten and just even people

01:01:09.020 that i knew when i was young are getting divorced um and yeah so a lot's changed but i found that

01:01:17.180 when i was interviewing um men that had been victims of divorce rape that the religious women 0.96

01:01:22.700 were worse like they were almost and so i would go on all these shows and they would kind of sell 1.00

01:01:28.140 their religion as a cure and i just was kind of skeptical because when there's a lot of karens

01:01:33.900 where i grew up like people were married but karens were still caring and also i'm like i just

01:01:39.980 don't believe that these women are going to be special because i would have these very religious

01:01:43.980 people like my i've had devout muslims on my show catholics orthodox and they would all sell me

01:01:49.580 there's these virtuous women and i'm like in my interviews i've interviewed a thousand women it's

01:01:55.180 not the same as dating obviously so maybe you guys know something i don't but that's why i started

01:02:00.540 the obey series because they kept telling me my church is different i'm like i'll go there

01:02:06.060 i'll go there and the catholics who michael knolls um said that catholic women were different when i

01:02:14.380 went on his show yeah and then those were that was the worst interview i did but they were like

01:02:19.020 standing in front of my obey sign they called the cops on me and i'm like i saw that isn't this in 0.71

01:02:24.460 the bible yeah the thing about like christian women and women who claim to be christian um

01:02:31.260 and one of the women i just started dating or i just kind of met we're starting to talk

01:02:36.540 um she's a christian i don't know how this is going to go yet but she's actually a christian

01:02:40.940 and a virgin okay at least what's she telling me right allegedly how old uh 28 29 she's like

01:02:49.980 you believe that i don't know but i mean i okay because i i've done so much cold approach and

01:02:55.740 everything i mean so far everything's lining up but again i don't just take things at face value

01:03:00.940 we'll see we'll see i don't even know where this is going to go so i don't invest any of my you

01:03:05.100 know i don't really care right now it's like okay maybe if it's like down the line if she's lying

01:03:09.500 she's lying it doesn't really matter to me at this point yeah um yeah because women lie all the time 1.00

01:03:15.100 but uh when it comes to women who are like even in this like the conservative influencers

01:03:21.900 i like i saw your videos on this series and i'm like i know i i agree because it's like they're

01:03:28.860 still they still default to their feminist programming right like i saw candace owen

01:03:35.180 um and i like candace i i like watching her shows sometimes and everything um but she was calling 0.97

01:03:40.700 out at the time tom brady was getting uh i think he was still married to giselle and giselle was

01:03:45.580 saying he should retire because of like he wants to play another year and then she was trying to

01:03:50.060 and candace sided with her and i'm like no she should back up her man you're supposed to be

01:03:53.980 be catholic well and it's like okay if he should retire then you should retire if we're gonna go

01:03:58.640 by that logic right you know right because you have five young kids yeah and i'm not like i'm

01:04:04.360 not saying she should or she shouldn't it's her family or whatever but like that's kind of 0.78

01:04:09.520 hypocritical well it's not only hypocritical but biblically biblically you are supposed to support

01:04:15.100 your man yeah especially if she claims to be a christian or again i'm catholic and i you know i 0.84

01:04:20.280 saw the Obey series, and I think we're talking about this a little bit before the show, because

01:04:24.900 I, you know, I've been diving into my own faith, and so, should I go into this? Yeah, no, please. Okay,

01:04:31.920 so the thing about Christians and Catholics, the reason why they are now just pushing back against

01:04:38.780 like your sign, by the way, like Obey and all this, is because in the 1960s, surprise, surprise,

01:04:44.560 It's right, the 60s.

01:04:47.740 The church, at least the Catholic church and the other churches followed suit,

01:04:51.440 was they went through kind of like a Reformation where they abandoned,

01:04:56.460 well, they converted to the Vatican II, what's called the Vatican II in the 1960s,

01:05:01.080 where they started inviting secularists and Protestants and people outside the Catholic church

01:05:08.180 to contribute to a new revised Bible, an updated Bible.

01:05:14.020 that was abandoning the old Bible that Catholics used for 1,500 years,

01:05:20.980 which was the Douay-Rheims Bible.

01:05:22.700 And that's a Bible I was telling you that I personally read and adhere to.

01:05:28.260 It's the Douay-Rheims.

01:05:28.820 And that's the original Catholic Bible?

01:05:31.260 Yeah, yeah.

01:05:32.280 So it's the Douay-Rheims Bible.

01:05:34.080 A lot of Catholics will know exactly the Bible I'm talking about.

01:05:36.780 It does get criticism these days because they say it's too traditional.

01:05:40.120 It's too strict to the language.

01:05:43.340 But St. Jerome, who did the translation from the Latin Vulgate, a long, long time ago, obviously, 1500 years ago, I think it was in like 382 A.D.

01:05:56.320 But he basically, what he did was he updated the language back then, but it was more for like word for word to stay strictly to the word of God.

01:06:08.480 whereas when the 1960s came, they started abandoning that Bible,

01:06:12.600 as well as this other Bible that they used in Catholic masses around the 40s and 50s.

01:06:17.860 It was called the Confraternity Bible.

01:06:19.820 That was very similar to the Douay-Rheims Bible.

01:06:22.680 It was just more easy to understand,

01:06:24.240 but it was also translated word for word according to the Word of God.

01:06:27.260 Whereas in the 1960s, they started creating this, what's called the New American Bible.

01:06:33.880 anything new by the way new revised that's what you'll see in most catholic churches these days

01:06:39.000 is new revised american bible that they use those bibles were not translated from the original word

01:06:45.960 of god they were translated instead of word for word it was translated translated as thought for

01:06:51.160 thought which is which means you can kind of play around with that if it's thought for thought it's

01:06:56.520 like okay i feel like they were basically trying to interpret god's word instead of just writing

01:07:01.320 down god's word it's like no he actually meant he didn't mean obey he meant adhere to submit i know

01:07:06.680 that's what all the religious guys oh just put submit on the and i'm like no no no no and do

01:07:14.120 you know what else i can tell when a woman's full of when she says oh like submission is easy

01:07:21.160 and obedience is like the way they some religious women talk about it i can just tell that they 1.00

01:07:25.640 they don't do it. 0.99

01:07:28.400 Because it's not easy to like,

01:07:30.120 when you really think you're right,

01:07:31.720 to just do what he wants anyway.

01:07:33.620 It's like that's actually very difficult,

01:07:35.800 especially in the modern era when,

01:07:38.900 and it's like, it's kind of like

01:07:41.320 when someone talks about working out too easily,

01:07:44.580 like they, you just know they don't do it.

01:07:46.740 Like if they speak about it too fondly.

01:07:49.580 But you know, if someone actually has done it,

01:07:51.780 they know how difficult it is.

01:07:53.840 And I just find there's a lack of, I don't know, when I do interviews, the more specific 1.00

01:07:59.740 the coach can talk about something, the more I know they're not full of shit. 1.00

01:08:04.260 Yeah. 1.00

01:08:04.700 And the more general. 1.00

01:08:05.980 So like with the women, I just noticed when I would interview these like, quote unquote, 0.96

01:08:09.880 traditional wives, there was never any, I do this when I'm really angry and I just can't, 0.76

01:08:14.100 you know, there was nothing, like nothing. 0.62

01:08:16.520 Yeah. 0.99

01:08:16.720 And so I'm like, I don't think most of these women are doing it. 1.00

01:08:19.340 I think they just have simp husbands. 1.00

01:08:21.480 Well, that too. 1.00

01:08:22.180 and i i mean you notice like the like the energy that these women give off especially in your 0.95

01:08:27.300 series with obey because i watched a few of those and i i mean it was so disappointing it's so

01:08:32.420 disappointing to see these women because you can see they're leading with their just and i look at

01:08:36.100 through it through a cold approach aspect if i was in field with these women and i didn't have

01:08:40.100 the obey sign but it's like they're leading with their pride and their ego almost every single

01:08:44.340 time right it's like it's not even about what's true or what's right it's about like i need to

01:08:49.620 to be right right it's just it's the pride in the ego yeah do you know this bible verse i don't

01:08:55.140 actually can i can can you pull up a youtube video i think you'd like my last whiteboard video on this

01:09:02.260 what's up guys welcome to my youtube channel today i want to explain to the well-meaning

01:09:06.500 christians on this app why you guys are particularly insufferable so my background is that i interviewed

01:09:14.020 a thousand women in london in my 2023 youtube show and i interviewed women of all denominations 0.82

01:09:20.740 and backgrounds and one thing i came to find out was that women are women women's life choices are

01:09:26.500 not necessarily different or better no matter the cultural background the socioeconomic background

01:09:32.580 or the race however a lot of times men are the problem in this eternal gaslighting because men

01:09:40.260 have a vested interest and an ego investment in believing that their wives daughters 1.00

01:09:47.860 mothers are not big fat slut whores when all women regardless of the background have a little 1.00

01:09:53.780 big fat slut whore in them some more some less but there's really no guarantees in this economy 1.00

01:10:01.220 so anyways moving on one thing i noticed was that when i had a generalization that was made about 1.00

01:10:07.220 women, there would be these things called white knights that would come to their defense.

01:10:12.980 Now, a white knight is somebody that is defending a woman for no reason that he's not related 0.94

01:10:18.520 to, and he doesn't even get sex out of. 0.99

01:10:21.040 It's a man with no self-respect. 0.99

01:10:23.940 Now, there's a woman circle of cope.

01:10:26.460 I wrote the church circle of cope because that's what this video is about, but we're

01:10:29.680 going to go through the woman circle of cope first.

01:10:33.620 So again, men have this ego investment.

01:10:36.280 So the first thing they do is they discredit the interviews that I did.

01:10:40.120 They say a thousand women, that is not a big enough sample size.

01:10:44.200 Those are just the women on your show. 0.92

01:10:46.660 And they kind of have this, um, this cope where they go through, it's the race of the 0.85

01:10:52.040 women, the social class of the women.

01:10:54.180 It's the questions you're asking the women. 0.99

01:10:56.220 It's just the women that go on podcasts.

01:10:58.100 And when I say, Hey, uh, it's not just women I interviewed.

01:11:01.600 I interviewed normal men that were just fathers and dads. 1.00

01:11:04.480 And they all have pretty much come to the conclusion that most women are big, fat, slut whores, disobedient, especially if they're over a certain age. 1.00

01:11:13.180 They've been red pilled. Right. Then they try to discredit me. 1.00

01:11:17.120 So they say you're unmarried or if it's a man saying some of this stuff, they call him an incel.

01:11:22.840 You know, they'll say, you know, it's just attack my looks, attack the way I say it, yada, yada.

01:11:30.760 It's they'll just try to discredit me in some way.

01:11:34.480 um then they point me to women that are in fact better than the women on my shows they try to

01:11:40.560 it's very sad they try to show me their wife and say look at my wife she's so special and different 0.58

01:11:46.160 uh-huh you know how many men have told me that their wife is special and different and then she

01:11:52.420 does the same thing it's just incredible um and then women complain and then law enforcement gets 0.99

01:11:57.760 involved. So, um, I get dragged to court. Um, I get demonetized on YouTube and this is the circle

01:12:05.780 of cope for women. Now, church people, you guys have a similar circle of cope because a lot of

01:12:11.340 you guys want your religion to be right. And you want your religion to be right so bad that you

01:12:16.700 almost won't even like listen to anything that could possibly discredit the religion.

01:12:22.500 And that's where I come in. So I go to churches and I ask churches if they believe that women 0.99

01:12:29.580 should obey men or women, wives should obey their husbands. And now to me, this is the antithesis or 0.90

01:12:37.820 the culmination or whatever. I can't say words, excuse me, of feminism. So to me, it's feminism

01:12:46.720 really is saying that women and men are equal and have equal authority starting in the home 0.91

01:12:51.920 when women are subordinates. And to me, a church that cannot say loudly with its chest that women 0.96

01:12:59.640 are below men, that women should be obedient to men, it's not a real church and they're lying. 0.54

01:13:06.280 The reason I think this is because, well, you're supposed to go to your church for the truth. 0.63

01:13:11.580 And if the church is more worried about their reputation, about money, if they are not even

01:13:17.380 brave enough to give an answer on camera, then I have to, um, I have to conclude that they're a

01:13:25.260 bunch of, um, I don't want to say the P word, but you know, uh, you know, Jesus and the apostles, 0.96

01:13:30.980 from what I understand, um, they said the truth with death as the potential other side. And many 0.94

01:13:38.820 of them did die for their faith. And to me, you're not really a real Christian. If you don't put your 0.87

01:13:45.920 money where your mouth is and you're afraid of some women complaining at church. So the issue

01:13:51.880 we have in a modern society is women make 85% of consumer buying decisions. Now, as a business, 1.00

01:13:57.760 I've experienced this firsthand because I'm honest and I don't pander to women. It has cost me 1.00

01:14:03.200 millions and millions of dollars. I could have an amazing YouTube show where I just tell women that

01:14:09.260 he doesn't deserve you. You're so special and amazing and awesome. And I would make way more

01:14:14.440 money. And the churches have really figured this out. So they go to the churches. They say,

01:14:19.900 ladies, the men don't deserve you. Make them wait for marriage. Make sure he's a real godly man 1.00

01:14:25.360 without even requiring or asking if she's a real godly woman. How is this any different

01:14:32.280 or better than call her daddy? I would argue it's not. So the church circle of cope,

01:14:39.360 they mostly care about being right and they care about being right despite any facts data statistic

01:14:46.560 or real life examples that are different so the first thing they do is they try to discredit my

01:14:52.320 interviews so i go to first they say pearl that's just insert um you know the baptist church or

01:15:01.040 that's just that church or that church you are not going to the right churches so then i go to their

01:15:06.000 church and they say well you didn't interview the right people from my church you should have

01:15:11.040 interviewed that person or that person and to that i say you know if i'm a teacher and i have

01:15:16.080 a classroom isn't it kind of the person in the front's job to make sure they're learning and

01:15:23.040 they understand it and if they're not why aren't you yelling at the teacher stop yelling at pearl

01:15:29.360 what did i do okay so um they say it's how i did the interviews the race of the people i interviewed

01:15:36.000 the social class, or the questions I asked. Then they go on, and this is where Christians become

01:15:42.700 particularly insufferable. So they call you a fornicator, a degenerate, and an in-cell or 1.00

01:15:50.400 unmarried, even though most of the people calling you that have done the same thing. 1.00

01:15:55.300 So many times, you know, Christians will call, overweight Christians call fornicators and 0.98

01:16:04.580 degenerates, um, people that have sex outside of marriage, um, you know, they, they imply that 0.99

01:16:10.940 they're somehow more moral when nobody's asking, you know what I mean? Um, they also try to prove 0.99

01:16:19.220 they're smart. So they come at you and they pick a random Bible verse and they say, Oh, I know this

01:16:25.580 Bible verse. Do you know that Bible verse? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's really annoying.

01:16:30.840 um, because you know, they might as well, they should just say, and this is kind of what they're

01:16:37.140 trying to imply. I am better than you. That would almost be more honest. If they came up to you and

01:16:42.640 just said, Hey, I'm moral. You're not moral. That would, but what instead they do, it's like the

01:16:48.580 circle of gaslighting. They say, Oh, well, are you married? Oh, you're not. And then, well, I'm

01:16:53.940 married. I know what I'm talking about. Or they say, well, do you know this Bible verse? Oh, you

01:16:58.000 don't and it's just a different it's a roundabout way of saying I'm better than you and then the

01:17:05.000 next thing they do is they get law enforcement involved so they try to kick me off church

01:17:11.100 premises even though I'm always on public property they they go on YouTube do disinformation campaigns

01:17:20.180 against me saying i'm harassing them um they they go through all of these steps instead of and

01:17:28.660 here's here's the christians i'm giving you guys an answer so you know there's two options here

01:17:33.700 right they could get law enforcement involved say they're better than me in a roundabout way

01:17:37.940 you know they might ask if you're a believer or they could so they could blame pearl double down

01:17:44.900 gaslight so say it's just the churches you go to you're wrong my church is the one true church even

01:17:52.180 though half of my priests and pastors say things that aren't true right or option a could be admit

01:18:00.580 flaws and maybe get on the get get on the pastors to do a better job you know the people you're

01:18:07.380 paying or b they um blame pearl double down gaslight and call the cops so

01:18:16.260 and so you can stop it now i you know i don't even think like i mean because i've met christians

01:18:22.260 like this too and they're like yeah um they're not even really practicing christianity they're

01:18:28.980 practicing really secular liberalism if not christian feminism they're not really practicing

01:18:35.700 you know it's like they're just practicing a religious form of feminism in my opinion

01:18:40.380 yeah because that's not like um i mean if we get time travel back to you know the 40s or 50s

01:18:47.120 uh would you still get pushback for that probably but but not like you do today yeah yeah not like

01:18:54.900 you do because the bibles were different they were teaching they were teaching based on the

01:18:59.040 word of god where now since the 60s and like i was talking about the vatican 2 and these new

01:19:04.060 revised christian bibles are using especially in catholic masses i'd say most most catholic masses

01:19:10.380 today are um are there there's a there's a bureaucracy within the church where even the

01:19:18.320 bishops are being pushed to use these new american revised bibles where there's a lot of like woke

01:19:25.640 language in there there's a lot of inclusion right what's 85 percent of consumer buying decisions

01:19:31.600 once you have overhead how do you not yeah yeah how do you like i just don't know how churches 1.00

01:19:38.560 could even do it without the women's money well i mean the churches were really doing fine up until

01:19:45.920 uh the the late 60s and the 70s that's when statistically church attendance started to

01:19:52.640 plummet when they started teaching they started catering to everybody well because that was when 0.88

01:19:56.320 women got credit cards yeah well yeah so they can't wait now that women could spend their 0.76

01:20:00.880 husband's money oh my gosh i think it was cooked once women got credit cards i think that's when 0.96

01:20:05.440 society was over with uh when they got credit cards i would even go back to the voting 0.73

01:20:12.320 well that started women's suffrage i'm with you yeah but i think the credit cards is even worse

01:20:18.480 because that like that's so much spending power that we have yeah how do you run a business that's

01:20:24.400 That's like giving a child a book of matches.

01:20:29.940 Amazon's got to be up there.

01:20:31.520 I mean, yeah, Amazon Prime. 0.86

01:20:33.320 Every woman has one. 0.98

01:20:34.500 Yeah, so I just don't see it being feasible that you can have employees and not pander to women, like a giant overhead. 0.99

01:20:42.520 Oof. 1.00

01:20:43.580 Oh, yeah.

01:20:45.100 I mean...

01:20:45.540 Like, which all the churches have to.

01:20:47.480 At this point, yeah, it's unfortunate.

01:20:49.360 it but I mean yeah it's just kind of they're just they're just caving to

01:20:55.740 corporate feminism really and that's what it is it's like corporate feminism

01:20:59.480 yeah well because I don't know it's like if they really cared about what they're 0.98

01:21:05.540 teaching they would have young marriages you know they don't like the life

01:21:09.400 choices would be different with the people in it do you think there's

01:21:12.340 anything else you wanted to say about the catholic church um oh i mean yeah if you want to go to a

01:21:21.120 non-woke liturgy mass um you're you're better off going to a latin mass and not all the catholic

01:21:27.860 churches will hold latin masses and if they do it's on specific days of the week i know whenever

01:21:33.140 i visit san francisco i was born and raised here so my parents still live here i come here a lot

01:21:37.520 And the church that I prefer is called Star of the Sea.

01:21:42.440 There's a priest called Father Elo, and he has a lot of pull with the bureaucracy.

01:21:47.580 So he insists on having Latin Masses certain times of the week.

01:21:51.500 And many times he'll read directly from the Douay Reims Bible, which the normal Masses they will not read from.

01:21:59.220 because obviously in that in that book specifically it said it it it says for

01:22:04.540 wives to obey their husbands very clear right obey not submit not defer to not

01:22:10.360 hey we got equal say no obey yeah so yeah the first reaction is always I

01:22:17.180 don't know about obey so yeah yeah yeah it's just unfortunately it's just the 0.99

01:22:22.220 culture that we're living in that women are just talked like oh my god like 1.00

01:22:25.540 everything offends them right yeah yeah so well thank you for coming on today 0.98

01:22:31.420 absolutely thanks for having me on this is fun yeah where can the people find

01:22:35.680 you go to my YouTube channel YouTube 33 secrets you'll find me there or get on

01:22:43.180 Instagram you'll find me there at Matt cross official and those are two

01:22:47.500 platforms I use the most and yeah you'll find a lot of my videos there a lot of

01:22:53.080 red pill stuff uh i'm probably one of the few pickup artists if ever or probably one of the

01:22:59.360 only ones that uh has like red pill like i teach this stuff from a red pill perspective so i'm not

01:23:05.020 going to tell guys like oh yeah tell her she's pretty and you know be chivalrous i'm going to

01:23:09.080 tell you exactly what you need to hear not what you want to hear a lot of guys don't like it um

01:23:14.020 some of my my my biggest followers now are like who bought all my programs originally started as

01:23:20.000 haters and like i can't believe you're saying this and then like five years later like oh my

01:23:24.420 god you're right about everything yeah you know yeah guys i unfortunately with guys you just have

01:23:30.180 to learn the hard way sometimes there's no other way they have to simp they have to simp yeah it's

01:23:35.780 like default to just simp yeah right yeah all right guys well make sure you go check him out

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Pearl - July 20, 2026

Professional PUA Matt Cross Joins The Sitdown

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