Pearl - August 31, 2025
She Was 70 Years Old When She Got Divorced - Now She's 100 And Alone
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Summary
A new start after 60? I was devastated by a divorce at 70, but at 102, I knew the secrets of a well-lived life. Dr. Gladys McCarthy, a 102-year-old physician, explains why.
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What's interesting, though, is that when men get divorced, when men take L's, they don't get
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articles written about them. A new life after 60. I was devastated by a divorce at 70, but at 102,
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I know the secrets of a well-lived life. So there's this idea that women of the past were different.
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And I do push back on this idea. I would say that women of the past had less opportunity
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and less choice. But had they been given the same thing, I think they would have made the same
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choices. I don't know why, guys, they always want, like, they think that if they go to a different
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country or if they go to a different point in history, women still won't be women.
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But yeah, I just, that's not what I see. Because I've interviewed older women and their answers
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are kind of similar. All right, a new start after 60. I was devastated by a divorce at 70,
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but at 102, I knew the secrets of a well-lived life. It's hard to put a size on things that can
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happen in your life, Gladys McCarthy says. At 102, it's understandable she would feel this way.
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Shortly after she was 70, her husband, Bill, to whom she had been married for 46 years,
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handed her divorce papers. He had been carrying them in a briefcase for six months and said he
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would appreciate a prompt signature. McGarry and Bill had only been, had not only been married
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for decades, but were also close colleagues. They were both doctors who had trained as practitioners
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and were among the co-founders of the American Holistic Medicine Association in 1978. For the
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duration of their marriage, they had shared a clinic in Phoenix, Arizona, as well as having
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six children together. So when the marriage ended, Bill had started a relationship with another
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colleague. McGarry not only lost her life partner, but also her business partner too.
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It blindsided me and I was broken, she says. So a lot of times what happens is this is like the
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feminist worst nightmare to spend your youth on a guy and to have a bunch of kids. And now you're
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kind of screwed when you're old. That's, that's like feminist worst nightmare. Now, let's be honest,
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the majority of the time women are the ones leaving. So this isn't overly likely to happen,
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but this is the worst nightmare. Her daughter, Helen, had recently joined a practice and mother
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and daughter went their own way, opening a new nearby clinic in Scottsdale. While McGarry had
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something to get up for each morning, the pain of her separation was immense. The hardest thing she
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had ever faced. Harder, she says, than the boot of cancer she went through in her 30s and 90s.
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It's not a matter of getting over stuff. It's a matter of living through it, she says now. Speaking
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on a Zoom call from a house that she built at Helen's invitation behind her daughter's home.
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If you can live through issues that you've been faced with, they become one of your teachers.
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But it's a slow process. It wasn't until 93 that I really accepted it, she said. And clutching with
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the air in her hand, you get to that part where you can kind of hang on. One turning point came
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when McGarry was driving back from her and Helen's clinic and she received an invitation to Bill's
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wedding. I was so angry, I was screaming. I pulled over to the side of the road and thought to myself,
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are you going to keep going on like this? This is really gross. So the other question is,
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what kind of wife was she for 50 years? Because men have an innate sense of guilt,
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right? They really don't like leaving women. It's like in their biology to not and to keep
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taking care of women. I mean, that's why so many men stay with like fat wives, bitchy wives,
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nagging wives. So if he divorced her, my question is, was he really bad, just an evil guy who wanted
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to leave his wife or maybe what was her part to play? Her parents, okay, wait. So she, okay, wait.
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McGarry is a Presbyterian. Her parents were medical missionaries and she was raised in India till she
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was 15 in a car. In the car, a verse from the Bible came to her. This is the Lord the day has
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made. Let us rejoice, rejoice and be glad in it. So she bought a license plate for her car and she
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said, be glad to remind her there was a lot in her marriage that I really treasured. Looking back,
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she can now see that her divorce was a critical and constructive turning point. Prior to that,
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I really didn't trust my own voice. Being dyslexic meant that she always had to feel slow.
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I really didn't think I had a voice. She said, I knew I had a voice. After the divorce,
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it was no longer Bill and Gladys. It was Gladys McCart, McGarry medical doctor. I reclaimed what
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I had. It was not just as Bill's partner. I don't regret one minute that I spent as Bill's wife,
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she said. But while he died in 2008, my life is taking an amazing dimension that are completely
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not associated with him. What I chose is working for me. McGarry never remarried. People would ask if
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I was dating and I would say, why would I take care of another old man? No, thank you. She retired at 86,
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but continued to offer telephone consultations. She has appointments after we finished speaking.
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She no longer has a license to practice, but as she puts it, nobody told me I had to stop talking.
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Indeed, at 100, she discovered a 10x talk on holistic medicine and her central belief that she
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has a colleague within each patient who does the healing as I do the other part of it, which is
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what I know and understand to be the field of medicine. Okay, so what's interesting, though,
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is that when men get divorced, when men take L's, they don't get articles written out about them.
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So, I mean, how many 100-year-old, or maybe not 100, but like 80-year-old guys are completely
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screwed because their wife left them and robbed them. But we have a whole society that if women ever
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take an L, there's like a whole infrastructure in place to make them feel like it's not an L and
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we're just victims. Okay, let's see what else we've got here. Special announcement, the Cornstar,
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Brittany Lamora, is coming on Friday to have a discussion. So that'll be kind of fun.
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Um, okay, I'm gonna play my divorce documentary trailer while I go blow my nose because...