Pearl - March 08, 2026


Smart Men Don’t Debate or Argue


Episode Stats

Length

12 minutes

Words per Minute

172.37773

Word Count

2,143

Sentence Count

75

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

19


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Transcript

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00:00:00.000 So I grew up in a really conservative and Catholic area.
00:00:04.680 I don't know, all the white nationalists and like that side of YouTube, Twitter, probably
00:00:09.740 would have really liked where I grew up because it was mostly white.
00:00:12.440 It was like Catholic, conservative.
00:00:14.980 And being that's where I was from, I always was very pro-life and I was pro-life for two
00:00:22.060 reasons.
00:00:22.640 One, maybe three, three.
00:00:24.520 One, my mother always dragged me to pro-life events.
00:00:27.660 so I actually got to meet Sarah Palin when I was like 12. My mom's part of the reason I'm
00:00:32.960 conservative because she was always in like those kind of circles, right? Second reason is because
00:00:39.340 my parents adopted. So I've been on both sides of adoption. I'm one of 10 kids, but I always say
00:00:45.760 I grew up with six and I was the second out of the original six. When my parents or when I became a
00:00:51.880 teenager, my parents started adopting kids that just weren't in the best situation. Most of them
00:00:57.440 were teenagers they weren't like setting out to adopt but one had a parent that was homeless one
00:01:03.740 had a parent that was an alcoholic and overall these were good kids just you know cursed with
00:01:10.200 bad parents you know my my parents were just really giving people so um they took them in
00:01:16.500 anyways fast forward I turned 22 I learned I actually have a brother that I didn't know about
00:01:22.440 so my parents got pregnant when they were really young and gave that kid up for adoption he grew
00:01:26.920 up with a different family. I met him as an adult. So all of these experiences made me pro-life
00:01:33.440 because I've been on both sides of adoption. And it really surprised me one day because I used to
00:01:39.980 do abortion debates on the streets. I would take a sign and I would say abortion is a cop-out.
00:01:44.800 It's not that hard to not get pregnant, which it's not. It's really not. But besides the point,
00:01:50.280 my dad, it really surprised me. He told me to stop wasting my time.
00:01:56.920 and i'm thinking dad you're more pro-life than i am right you um
00:02:04.600 you would you saved these teenagers and you gave a kid up for adoption how could you say that right
00:02:12.280 abortion is murder and that's kind of how i viewed it right i and i still view it that way i think
00:02:17.800 you're killing a lot i think you're killing a child and i think dad this is like a genocide
00:02:22.760 in front of our like eyes how could you say that and my dad said that conservatives need to give up
00:02:30.140 on the abortion issue because it's not going to change and he told me I was just wasting my time
00:02:36.000 and at first you know I kicked and screamed as women do no I'm not wasting my time but then you
00:02:42.420 know I did these abortion debates over and over and I showed women abortions and even after they
00:02:48.600 would see like limbs being ripped off of babies they're like no a woman should still have the
00:02:54.720 right to choose and I noticed all the women that are like pro-life now they're always like magically
00:03:00.520 pro-life after they've had three abortions you know I'm like I've been conservative my whole life
00:03:06.800 my entire life from the time I was like 12 I've always voted Republican a lot of women they start
00:03:14.000 off voting liberal, not me. So to me, I'm like, where have you bitches been? Like I was at rallies
00:03:19.660 when I was 14. What's your excuse? Um, you know, so it just seemed like a lot of women trying to
00:03:29.020 profit off of it, you know, and that's kind of my experience with the pro-life, you know, movement.
00:03:34.500 They always handle women with kid gloves. And, you know, I think a lot of you saw me debate Lila
00:03:38.640 rose um what you get with a lot of really right-wing women is whenever there's male sin like
00:03:47.560 porn they they crucify it oh it's a degrading degradation of society but whenever a former
00:03:55.720 porn star who probably had like three abortions come comes to the pro-life movement they're like
00:04:00.860 oh right this wet you know just incredible anyways back to back to so at one point I had
00:04:09.520 a debate show and I would do debates with women like six days a week at one point um every day
00:04:16.360 would be different topics sometimes it's like modern dating sometimes it was abortion like
00:04:20.980 it was just wrote it like at this point I have debated or maybe more like conversational like
00:04:28.080 had conversations around every single topic known to man. And what I realized is that intelligent
00:04:34.160 men, um, don't want to waste their time. And my dad's a very intelligent guy and intelligent men
00:04:41.440 are going to look at it and think, wow, you know, it's like WWE, you know, cool. It's fun to like
00:04:49.060 watch a debate maybe now and then, but intelligent men aren't going to try to change your mind
00:04:54.800 because they don't want to waste their time. And the way my dad would think about it is the amount
00:05:00.760 of work it would take to change abortion laws with women kicking and screaming, they can just
00:05:07.320 have it. I'm going to go make money. I'm going to go build, you know, my dad built a mega shed in
00:05:13.920 his backyard. I got better things to do. And I realized intelligent men in general do not like
00:05:19.900 debate. Debate's really for lower status men that have nothing to do, right? And it's not an insult,
00:05:27.900 right? Most people are not high status, right? But when you're young, you have nothing to lose
00:05:34.320 and nothing to do. You don't have a wife. A lot of young men now don't have a wife, don't have kids.
00:05:39.220 Okay, now they have the time to debate. But as men get a family and get better things to do,
00:05:44.600 they ultimately will choose anything else over arguing especially arguing with women because men
00:05:51.980 can be changed by logic women are completely illogical it's based on how we feel so if we
00:05:59.220 don't feel like abortion's icky we're just going to keep killing our kids if we don't feel like
00:06:04.700 it's a kid we'll just keep going till the end of time and intelligent men realize that and say do
00:06:09.900 you know what? The guy's getting paid off of debates. That's a different thing because they're
00:06:15.980 getting paid, right? They're getting money. Or women, we just love wasting time. So we'll just
00:06:22.140 keep doing that till the end of time. But in my experience, the most intelligent men, they just,
00:06:28.440 they look at the drawing board, they look at the chessboard and they see how they can move
00:06:33.240 the best in the current system that we have, but they are not going to waste their time debating
00:06:40.780 you. And I think that's the challenge you get in society is there's a lot of people, especially
00:06:47.700 in media, they move up in the ranks in society. So like the destinies of the world, the Anna
00:06:53.040 Casparians of the world, the, the common to the Brett Coopers of the world, Candace Owens of the
00:06:58.120 world. Um, even like the Matt Walsh is Michael Knowles. And generally they're low. They would
00:07:05.260 be low status anywhere else. Like they don't have a area of expertise or competence or like a body
00:07:12.640 of work. They're just actors essentially. Um, but they've gotten really good at the skill of
00:07:21.320 debating. But what isn't recognized, I guess, is that two intelligent men aren't even going to
00:07:28.420 argue with you. So what I found is actually, it's the least intelligent people that are in debates.
00:07:33.920 It's actually, it's actually women or low status men, because intelligent men,
00:07:39.840 high status men, they're just not going to waste their time. I think there was a clip a few months
00:07:44.380 ago I saw of someone from Charlie Kirk's cabinet debating destiny. And destiny is just talking
00:07:50.120 over everybody because he's gotten really good at doing that like that and I'm just thinking I'm in
00:07:56.420 such a cloud world because of no other universe would a guy with this little experience in
00:08:02.720 anything get to have an opinion this loud and you could just tell the most intelligent guy on the
00:08:09.240 panel he's not gonna over talk you he's not gonna he's just sitting there waiting for this guy to
00:08:15.060 shut up. And that's what I've noticed is the most intelligent men, they just are not going to fight
00:08:21.680 you to talk and you have to actively get their opinion because they are not going to fight you
00:08:26.920 for it because they view most of you guys as stupid and commentators too. Um, and so anyways,
00:08:34.200 my experience in panel shows and debates and all that stuff, even if you watch like Jubilee, right?
00:08:39.980 what intelligent people in general are going on jubilee and i got to a point where i'm going on
00:08:47.440 these debates and i'm thinking i was never meant to hear any of your opinions i'm not supposed to
00:08:57.380 be i'm in a clown world right i'm supposed to hear the opinion of the guy that's worked for
00:09:05.700 like 30 years and is an expert in the field on that topic but I have to listen to Brett Cooper
00:09:12.300 Anna Kasparian Candace Oh like these are the people I have to listen to and I just got to a
00:09:19.620 point where I'm like this is the biggest waste of time and I think men get to that point too because
00:09:25.460 nobody's opinion changes and the rules of the system aren't going to change anyway
00:09:30.480 um I get paid on it so I still do debates right you kind of have to but I'll even I'll even do
00:09:37.720 these debates and I'll think why am I here why isn't you know Terrence Popp has saved 500 men
00:09:44.300 from suit why isn't he here right um and it's because the experts and the most intelligent
00:09:52.880 people on the topic are never doing debates but all of them have huge egos they think they're
00:09:59.880 really important because everybody tells them they're important because they get the applause
00:10:04.480 but intelligent men they don't care about the applause they literally do not care they don't
00:10:10.600 need like i wish i could put into words how little my father cared about credit growing up
00:10:15.960 he did not care about credit he did not care about status he did not care he just wanted he
00:10:22.200 would always say just get it done what's the next step get it done what's the whenever i i tell him
00:10:27.460 sometimes I bitch about like, um, the Pajits or whatever. And he's just like, who cares? Like
00:10:33.880 he'll, he'll tell me who cares. You can't change it. What can you change? What can you,
00:10:39.860 and the most intelligent people, they don't bitch about problems. They just focus on what
00:10:45.340 they can change. And that's why. Um, and I think I could say this because I've done so many debates,
00:10:51.360 but the the most intelligent people are not debating they are not they have better shit to
00:10:57.360 do especially debating with women because they know you're just not gonna win because you could
00:11:03.020 win a debate with women and then everyone will still view you as a villain like um
00:11:10.640 yeah so I got to the end of the tunnel and my father was right just like he is about pretty
00:11:18.300 much everything. Abortion is a waste of time. It's not going to change in our lifetime. Anybody
00:11:25.700 that sells you that is kind of selling hope. And women win. You get to kill your kids. You've
00:11:31.760 aborted an eighth of the world population. And it doesn't matter. I could show them a video of
00:11:38.540 how disgusting and awful it is, and they're just going to do it the next day. They do not care.
00:11:43.380 And they don't really have remorse for it either. A lot of people say that women feel guilt.
00:11:47.580 they don't um they don't like the shame like when they say it publicly and people are like oh you
00:11:53.800 killed your kid they don't like that but in terms of like remorse feeling sorry um they don't care
00:12:03.660 they don't so anyways the most intelligent people don't debate like the video and if you have a
00:12:10.500 thought on the topic please put it in the comments I do read them and a lot of times the next day
00:12:15.340 when I do a coffee talk um I take directly your comments sometimes I like think of I think of my
00:12:22.340 next topic because of a comment like the video and I'll see you next time