Pearl - September 11, 2025


The Political Dynamic Has Changed

Topics
Charlie Kirk Assassin
Mentioned
Charlie Kirk Charles Krauthammer Donald Trump Pearl Pearl Doug Tommy Sotomayor Jordan Peterson Luigi Mangione Candace Owens Andrew Tate Hassan Mafi Elon Musk Bummer Myron Fred Nick
Modern Women Do Not Compare Against Men Charlie Kirk's Assassination Leaves a Lot of Questions Behind

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Length

14 minutes

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129.13

Word count

1,821

Sentence count

149

Harmful content

Toxicity

14

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Hate speech

2

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Summary

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Charlie Kirk was a husband and father who was a key ally of President Donald Trump. He was a conservative commentator and founder of Turning Point USA, an organization dedicated to fighting gun control. On Wednesday morning, he was fatally shot outside of a campus rally.

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00:00:00.000 While maybe I disagreed with him on certain issues, it's such a tragedy to see a guy that's so young go out this way.
00:00:16.000 I don't know, guys.
00:00:16.680 So today I was in the middle of a guitar lesson when I heard the news that Charlie Kirk was shot.
00:00:23.960 And I just, I was just in shock.
00:00:30.000 I was having a really hard time concentrating because, you know, we did have our disagreements.
00:00:40.520 You know, we didn't see everything the same.
00:00:43.400 But, you know, the past 10 years I've watched his content.
00:00:49.560 And this just feels like in the last two years things have gotten so crazy.
00:01:00.080 Like, I don't remember anybody getting shot in the last decade of abortion debates, woke activist debates or any of that stuff.
00:01:09.400 And regardless of how you feel about his top, his opinions on certain issues, nobody deserves to die because of an opinion.
00:01:19.520 And it's just weird to watch someone do a type of content I've done before.
00:01:27.880 And be somebody that's really was monumental in the culture war the past decade.
00:01:40.240 And it was just really sad.
00:01:49.000 Okay, let me read what I was reading earlier.
00:01:54.300 So it says, Charlie Kirk was fatally shot at a Utah campus rally.
00:01:58.820 Conservative activist Charlie Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA and a key ally of former President Donald Trump, was fatally shot during a speaking event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
00:02:08.440 This incident occurred outdoors in Orem, Utah, amid a debate with students, leading to a campus lockdown and a widespread condemnation from political leaders across the spectrum.
00:02:20.020 Authorities are actively searching for the shooter with no motive yet disclosed.
00:02:24.240 As tragedy reignites concerns over political violence and campus security, reactions on social media have splurged with millions expressing shock and grief, highlighting Kirk's role as a husband and a father.
00:02:36.620 It's actually been more sad because I don't know how this happened.
00:02:41.860 People that know him told me that he had like secret service as his security.
00:02:53.160 So I don't know how this happened.
00:03:00.800 Okay, let's see.
00:03:02.140 All right, so, okay, so this was him earlier today, like literally this morning.
00:03:13.840 Pearl, I don't agree with your content, but I want to say thank you for being there.
00:03:16.760 Thank you for showing up for a man of Christ.
00:03:19.840 Thanks for watching.
00:03:21.680 You know, I'm just in disbelief.
00:03:23.460 I wish I could.
00:03:24.200 It's just, it's so weird because I've interviewed so many of these guys and they really are brave.
00:03:35.000 You know, like I interviewed Andrew Tate.
00:03:37.360 He got thrown in jail.
00:03:38.400 I interviewed Tommy Sotomayor thrown in jail.
00:03:41.700 Nick, assassination attempt.
00:03:43.880 And Charlie, I mean, me and my dad went to one of his events probably like five years ago now.
00:03:49.260 And I didn't spend a lot of time with Charlie personally, but his right-hand man like spent like four days straight with us.
00:03:57.380 They were really nice.
00:03:58.160 Um, and again, I did, you know, while maybe I disagreed with him on certain issues, this is just, it's such a tragedy to see, um, a guy that's so young go out this way.
00:04:18.900 Like he didn't even get to enjoy the second half of life.
00:04:21.960 Um, okay, let's see.
00:04:29.680 Let me watch this.
00:04:31.880 Um, show my screen.
00:04:41.460 Um.
00:04:42.140 Um.
00:05:12.120 Oh, that's getting rushed.
00:05:28.080 So weird.
00:05:35.100 That was him.
00:05:37.620 Wow.
00:05:38.140 Wow.
00:05:42.120 And then with Trump too, this is going to set a precedent for political events.
00:06:00.980 I don't think people are going to be, you know, even streamers.
00:06:05.700 Um, I sent the link to a couple of streamers.
00:06:09.640 Um, I don't know if they'll hop on, but it's like, I think a lot of people are going to kind of move differently after this.
00:06:22.860 You have to, um, okay.
00:06:25.340 Let's see another one.
00:06:27.760 Share this.
00:06:28.720 Oh, Doug, this is like two hours long.
00:06:32.620 Um, let me go to the next one.
00:06:34.180 Um, okay.
00:06:35.560 And the crazy thing is, um, Democrats on Reddit can barely contain their glee over Charlie Kurtz shooting.
00:06:42.540 So there's a lot of people that are actually celebrating his death.
00:06:46.140 And this is something I really don't see on the right.
00:06:52.240 You know, I don't see the right having calls for violence against people that disagree with us.
00:07:00.540 I understand people thought some of his opinions were abhorrent or they didn't think they were the right opinions.
00:07:06.660 But, you know, he was still a husband and a father and he was doing a job.
00:07:10.840 Um, Fred said, like, these are some of the comments off of the Redditors.
00:07:14.920 Bummer.
00:07:15.280 Time to release the files.
00:07:16.620 Well, that's terrible anyway.
00:07:17.700 So what's everyone having for dinner?
00:07:19.660 I hope we truly find out. 0.98
00:07:21.920 I hope, I truly hope we're in the find out era for shitty human beings. 0.99
00:07:26.360 Um, if you want to limit the access to guns for civilization, I guess if he has had his own gun, this could have been avoided. 1.00
00:07:33.960 What a shit show. 1.00
00:07:35.000 I don't care for this guy, but trying to kill him is insane. 1.00
00:07:38.460 Um, he did say he was fired up and ready. 0.99
00:07:43.340 Oh, my gosh.
00:07:46.100 Pro gun activist shot.
00:07:48.000 Ironic.
00:07:48.620 Uh, the video looks like he was shot long range.
00:07:50.780 Something like a rifle appears to have done serious damage.
00:07:54.320 Um, this is not the way to handle things.
00:07:58.640 However, when you make a career out of spewing, um, vitriol and hate, you are going to attract the crazies. 0.99
00:08:04.560 The dude is a clown, but wolf, don't go shooting people you don't like. 0.99
00:08:07.580 Um, yep, this is a major moment. 1.00
00:08:10.180 I ain't a betting man, but I can guarantee this shooter was a radical Democrat, Democrat, and they'll start coming for guns. 0.87
00:08:16.000 Um, Charlie is most likely dead shot to the neck.
00:08:18.580 Yeah, and I don't think I can play the video on YouTube, but if you go on Twitter, it's at the top.
00:08:23.540 And it's, um, there's this guy, Hassan Mafi says, what happened to Charlie Kirk happens in Gaza every single day.
00:08:36.460 And he cheered for it.
00:08:38.760 Karma comes when people least expect it. 0.71
00:08:41.440 And it's just, it's just disgusting.
00:08:43.820 Um, I understand we can have a difference in opinion of war, but I mean, he was a father.
00:08:48.960 Um, he was a husband and everybody that worked with him had good things to say.
00:08:55.160 Again, um, you go back and forth in this space.
00:08:58.120 You disagree with people, but wishing death upon anybody.
00:09:03.820 Um, so essentially, oh yeah, they did, um, arrest this guy, but it wasn't actually him.
00:09:13.380 Um, um, Charlie Kirk even tweeted a couple of months ago, assassination culture is spreading
00:09:25.520 on the left.
00:09:26.120 48% of liberals say it would be somewhat justified to murder Elon Musk. 1.00
00:09:30.900 Holy crap. 0.99
00:09:31.500 55% said the same about Donald Trump. 0.97
00:09:34.020 In California, activists are naming ballot measures after Luigi Mangione.
00:09:38.620 The left is being whipped into a violent frenzy.
00:09:41.440 Any setback, whether losing an election or losing a court case, justifies a maximally violent
00:09:46.580 response.
00:09:47.600 This is a natural outgrowth of left-wing protest culture, tolerating violence and mayhem for
00:09:53.080 years on end.
00:09:53.780 The cowardice of local protesters and school officials have turned into a ticking time bomb.
00:10:00.420 MSNBC hopped on the bandwagon.
00:10:02.340 Um, and this is just the audacity of these people.
00:10:06.940 It's crazy.
00:10:07.740 Let me show you.
00:10:11.320 Um, in which a shooting like this happens.
00:10:15.260 Yeah.
00:10:15.780 And again, I emphasize what you just emphasized.
00:10:17.600 We don't know any of the full details of this, that we don't know if this was the
00:10:21.000 supporter shooting their gun off in celebration or so we have no idea.
00:10:25.080 But, um, in which a shooting like this happens.
00:10:29.260 Yeah.
00:10:29.760 And again, I emphasize what you just emphasized.
00:10:31.420 We don't know any of the full details of this, that we don't know if this was the
00:10:34.980 supporter shooting their gun off in celebration or so we have no idea.
00:10:38.720 And yeah, they just speculated that it could have been a supporter shooting their gun off
00:10:45.960 in celebration.
00:10:46.960 Um, um, oh my God.
00:10:50.540 Um, okay.
00:10:53.880 Start, share this tab instead.
00:10:55.780 Divisive younger figures in this who is, but following up with what was just said, he's been one of the most divisive,
00:11:02.500 especially divisive younger figures in this, who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups.
00:11:11.880 And I always go back to hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions.
00:11:23.620 All right, Doug, but following up with what was just said, he's been one.
00:11:28.900 You cannot hate the left enough sometimes.
00:11:31.780 Um, yeah, I didn't think it was, was, was really there.
00:11:35.960 And, you know, we, um, you know, this channel, you and your platform have had your differences with Charlie Kirk and his wife.
00:11:43.060 But, um, I always put it akin to Charlie Kirk.
00:11:46.720 He was like your little brother that you kind of made fun of, but you knew when he, you know, when he graduated high school and he got older and stuff like that, that he do, he do big things.
00:11:56.120 You know what I'm saying?
00:11:57.640 And he, he just been around for so long.
00:12:01.780 And for this to happen to him, like, I was, Myron has to watch out.
00:12:07.780 I mean, you have to watch out, Pearly Pearl. 1.00
00:12:10.760 You have to watch out.
00:12:11.920 I'm done with, I'm done with street interviews for the year.
00:12:16.000 Yes.
00:12:16.420 I don't know.
00:12:17.440 Any conservatives that are doing street interviews or events, this is setting the precedent that none of them are safe.
00:12:26.660 And so, um, I'm, I'm just, Charlie Kirk, he went out saying his message, you know, on his mission, you know, doing what he loved to do.
00:12:43.180 And that's, you know, that's, I mean, I've just had a loss for words.
00:12:47.860 You know me, I'm almost never at a loss for words, but I just can't believe it.
00:12:50.660 Oh, that's how I feel.
00:12:52.080 I mean, I mean, we grew up, like, I just can't, I remember when I was in college and everything was like, I think that was like peak left was about when I was in college.
00:13:10.560 Um, so it would have been like 10 years ago, maybe, um, like seven to 10 years ago, you barely ever heard any dissenting opinions that were right-leaning, especially when you're in very left-leaning institutions.
00:13:25.140 And I just remember binging him, Candace Owens, Jordan Peterson, um, and they're not, I'm not saying they're perfect people, but they still were effective at changing people's minds, you know, and it's, it's just, it's so sad, um, to just see where the country has come.
00:13:49.680 Um, where, I don't know, I can't remember anybody having issues like this for a decade.
00:13:55.620 And in the past year, Trump was, had an attempted assassination at an event.
00:14:02.020 Nick had someone come to his house and now Charlie Kirk was shot dead at an event.