Pearl - September 01, 2025


Trad Wife Influencers Are Worse Than Onlyfans Models


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Length

12 minutes

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Word count

2,126

Sentence count

177

Harmful content

Misogyny

25

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Toxicity

15

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Hate speech

15

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In this episode, we talk about what it means to be a woman in the modern dating world and why it s so hard to find a man who s willing to stay home with the kids. We also talk about the fact that women are more likely to date online influencers than men who are more traditional.

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00:00:00.000 Oh my gosh, I think they removed it, the reel I was talking about.
00:00:03.540 I knew I wasn't going crazy.
00:00:05.220 Why do they do this to me?
00:00:06.400 You guys remove these reels.
00:00:08.520 All the female problems. 1.00
00:00:10.600 I think that there's something innate in women. 1.00
00:00:13.040 Obviously, it's biological to want a guy to care for you and be able to protect, provide.
00:00:18.520 I don't even mean financially provide, but just that emotional security.
00:00:23.480 And so I think women seek that out, whether they really know it or not.
00:00:29.760 But then I think that they aren't totally prepared for what comes with getting a more traditional guy.
00:00:37.100 Especially when you find a really traditional guy who's like, no, I would love for you to stay home with the kids.
00:00:42.340 Okay.
00:00:43.360 And so again, it's virtue signaling.
00:00:45.700 It's virtue signaling because none of them are going to do it.
00:00:49.040 Like, none of them.
00:00:52.060 They always, it's like, have the kid.
00:00:54.640 Use the kid for clout to build your brand.
00:00:57.980 Have the husband. 0.93
00:00:59.000 Use the husband for clout and to build your brand.
00:01:02.940 Keep working.
00:01:04.160 Never stop.
00:01:06.080 Which is fine.
00:01:07.100 It's not a bad thing, but it's just not, it's not the traditional thing you're telling me.
00:01:12.200 That's where I get annoyed.
00:01:13.760 I don't, I actually have no problem with it.
00:01:16.700 But what I don't like is it's like almost an elitist thing to say, oh, I'm in a traditional marriage.
00:01:30.260 I'm like, no, you cannot be in a traditional marriage as an influencer.
00:01:33.980 You literally can't. 1.00
00:01:35.840 You can still be in a good marriage, but traditional, bitch, shut up. 1.00
00:01:39.960 Like, I don't really want you to be posting your ass on social media or whatever it is. 1.00
00:01:44.680 Like, there are just kind of standards, I think, that come with that. 0.99
00:01:46.980 Like, if you're going to date, like, a player guy who isn't really thinking about marriage,
00:01:51.560 who doesn't really care if you stay home with the kids or whatever it is,
00:01:55.360 it's probably fine if you guys are both out doing your thing and posting whatever you want to post
00:01:59.080 and talking with whoever, but when you get into those situations where you have, like.
00:02:04.620 I would actually argue that, like, I would actually argue that dating a trad wife influencer is worse than OnlyFans.
00:02:12.640 I would argue it because, hear me out, okay. 0.99
00:02:17.960 OnlyFans, yeah, her vagina is going to be on the internet, 1.00
00:02:21.040 but it's almost worse to date a trad wife influencer where the husband did the privacy of his home 1.00
00:02:26.620 always has to be doing these stupid trends. 0.99
00:02:30.720 His texts are going to be put on Twitter. 1.00
00:02:33.360 He's got to do these poses to make the wife look good. 1.00
00:02:38.300 I would argue it's worse because, I'll tell you what,
00:02:44.720 if you get into some beef, then he's in beef.
00:02:48.040 Like, what beef are you going to get?
00:02:51.220 What beef are you going to get into?
00:02:52.900 What beef are you, like, it's way worse to have,
00:02:58.160 like, I think if I had to have my brother pick a girl that sells some nudes 1.00
00:03:03.300 or a woman in politics, I would pick the nudes. 1.00
00:03:08.260 Because, do you know how awful it is
00:03:12.500 to be a woman in politics? 1.00
00:03:18.200 Like, your family's going to get harassed.
00:03:25.780 Yeah.
00:03:27.540 A man with standards or a woman with standards, 1.00
00:03:29.320 I think you either have to rise and meet those standards and work together,
00:03:32.680 or it's just never going to work.
00:03:34.840 So, I think that might be part of it.
00:03:37.100 But I also think women are, again, there's this innate desire. 0.96
00:03:42.720 And then there is what women are taught socially 1.00
00:03:44.340 and what women talk about in their, like, circle. 1.00
00:03:46.460 And this drives me nuts.
00:03:48.420 What women are taught. 0.91
00:03:49.320 Like, they never can take accountability for women's choices. 1.00
00:03:53.840 I've invited Brett on, too.
00:03:55.580 They haven't accepted.
00:03:58.780 There's never accountability.
00:04:00.880 There's never...
00:04:02.720 Women chose this because they wanted to do it. 1.00
00:04:09.380 Yeah, women aren't taught anything. 1.00
00:04:11.300 Also, like, I want to be this boss, babe.
00:04:13.260 And I don't need no man. 1.00
00:04:14.200 Oh, yeah, men are scum. 1.00
00:04:15.260 I mean, if you heard what women, like, talk about 1.00
00:04:17.420 just in their little groups, it's crazy.
00:04:19.880 And so, I think that there is, they want one thing
00:04:22.620 and then they're presented and encouraged in another way.
00:04:25.180 And so, I think it makes it very confusing.
00:04:26.660 And not to, like, completely, like, take the blame off of them.
00:04:33.020 But I think it's a difficult thing to model for, especially in this society right now.
00:04:37.280 And with men and women being so split ideologically.
00:04:39.820 All right, who created the culture of this society?
00:04:42.820 Who created it?
00:04:44.340 Women! 1.00
00:04:46.180 And then, I just, I think I'm going to go nuts because even the most right-wing women, 1.00
00:04:51.660 their language is so gynocentric. 0.97
00:04:53.620 It's so gynocentric. 1.00
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00:06:11.680 Yeah, let me keep going.
00:06:14.080 Um, where there was a really interesting CNN interview that was going viral on X yesterday
00:06:21.240 where this woman was doing a piece and she only dated, like, alt-right men for a year.
00:06:26.400 And then she did an interview about it, about everything that she learned.
00:06:28.900 Whoa.
00:06:29.500 Yes.
00:06:29.880 Wait, so she, did she set out?
00:06:32.100 Yes.
00:06:32.320 To only date alt-right?
00:06:33.460 Yes.
00:06:34.020 So, as a result-
00:06:34.800 So, she, like, kind of, in a sense, deceived all of these guys?
00:06:38.620 Yes.
00:06:38.900 Yes.
00:06:39.040 How long did she date them for?
00:06:40.640 Like, a month each?
00:06:41.420 It was, like, a, yeah, a couple, like, a month here.
00:06:43.860 She would go on a couple dates here.
00:06:45.040 Like, there was no, like, serious relationship.
00:06:46.580 Okay, so it was also, like, going out.
00:06:47.860 Okay.
00:06:48.040 Yeah, she's just going out, she's dating these guys.
00:06:49.680 And how does she determine if they're alt-right?
00:06:51.580 Like, based on their social media profiles and asking them, like, she would ask about
00:06:53.940 their politics and that kind of stuff.
00:06:55.140 But you can tell, she, like, intentionally sought out, like, not just your average, like,
00:07:00.440 right-leaning guy on social, whatever it is, but, like-
00:07:03.420 Extreme right.
00:07:04.360 Like, that's interesting.
00:07:05.620 Are we talking, like, the Andrew Tate rights?
00:07:07.640 Yeah, like, that kind of thing.
00:07:08.380 Yeah, or, like, Nick Fuentes fans, like, that kind of stuff.
00:07:12.520 Like, she, like, really-
00:07:13.940 And then the entire interview was, like, oh, they're so awful.
00:07:17.300 They took me to political meetings.
00:07:19.080 It was all about-
00:07:19.820 Anyway, it was such a-
00:07:21.140 It was like she had, like, sort of found herself in this, like, weird niche political
00:07:25.840 faction that is, like, not reality at all.
00:07:29.040 That is not just, like, most normal guys, like, most of the, you know-
00:07:33.220 Oh, my gosh.
00:07:33.900 I think they removed it, the reel I was talking about.
00:07:36.940 I knew I wasn't going crazy.
00:07:38.600 Why do they do this to me?
00:07:39.800 You guys remove these reels.
00:07:41.720 Alex is a pretty, like, diverse group of friends, but of all of the, like, conservative,
00:07:45.160 more right-leaning guys that we're friends with that he knows from college, they're so
00:07:49.180 normal.
00:07:49.740 Like, you, like, they're not walking around with, like, huge Trump hats on or going to,
00:07:53.840 like, political meetings.
00:07:54.280 Like, they're lovely, wonderful, normal guys.
00:07:56.900 And she did not find any of those.
00:07:58.040 I don't think she was seeking them out.
00:08:00.620 But the way she spoke about them, even, like, even, like, removing her, like, feelings about
00:08:06.640 the alt-right whatever, but she was just so disgusted by every part of them.
00:08:11.460 And I think that that's really encouraged in women right now.
00:08:15.540 And they're so disgusted by, like, the male, like, species, like, moving more right.
00:08:20.260 And so I think that divide isn't helping at all, where now women are, like, turning their 0.99
00:08:24.140 nose up at more traditional guys, even though they know that they, like, want that kind
00:08:28.560 of, like, protection and security.
00:08:30.120 So really, it's basically just chaos.
00:08:33.320 And I think that's a huge reason for why the dating landscape is such a mess.
00:08:37.240 You know what's interesting?
00:08:38.040 I saw on Twitter, this triggered a lot of people.
00:08:40.280 Okay.
00:08:40.440 There was marriage advice, and it was some lady who was giving advice and just said to 1.00
00:08:47.500 all the women out there who are in unhappy marriages, all you need to do is when your 1.00
00:08:52.720 husband gets home, get home early, cook him a steak.
00:08:56.780 And that's it.
00:08:58.380 Yeah.
00:08:58.680 That's all it'll take.
00:09:00.020 And your marriage is going to change around.
00:09:02.060 Yeah.
00:09:02.200 And it's interesting to see the comments.
00:09:03.880 All the guys are like, oh, my gosh, this would be it.
00:09:06.000 When I get home, I just want to relax for an hour.
00:09:08.720 And then I have all this to-do list and these things.
00:09:11.980 And if I just got that, all the women were saying, absolutely not.
00:09:15.520 I would do that.
00:09:16.200 My husband wouldn't appreciate it.
00:09:18.140 Or he would just find something to talk about.
00:09:21.780 What are your thoughts on something like that?
00:09:24.300 It feels very normal to me.
00:09:26.280 Oh, wait.
00:09:27.200 Here we go.
00:09:29.640 Oh, wait.
00:09:30.420 I'm watching the full thing.
00:09:32.200 Oh, this is gold.
00:09:36.220 Wait a second.
00:09:37.900 Didn't she just get married? 1.00
00:09:39.640 Why isn't your last name changed?
00:09:42.840 Oh, my God.
00:09:46.360 I just want one conservative influencer. 0.97
00:09:50.560 Oh, my God.
00:09:51.500 I just want one.
00:09:53.640 Hold on.
00:09:54.260 Tough family convos.
00:09:56.940 Let's make sure to see how the conversation goes.
00:09:58.880 How can you prepare yourself to have an uncomfortable conversation like that?
00:10:01.960 Are you nervous?
00:10:02.980 Not really.
00:10:03.820 Really?
00:10:04.400 It's funny.
00:10:05.260 I am really bad at confrontation.
00:10:08.240 Confrontation is really hard for me.
00:10:09.660 I'm like a major people pleaser.
00:10:11.940 But I'm pretty good at heart-to-hearts.
00:10:15.900 So if it's like angry and volatile, oh, I'm like a wimp.
00:10:19.980 I just melt.
00:10:21.020 Like there are situations where...
00:10:23.340 Well, we'll talk to them and we'll have them sponsor you guys too.
00:10:26.160 What would you say is the most unfair criticism you've received since getting popular?
00:10:30.860 Just it's like, oh, she's super hateful just because of my politics.
00:10:35.160 Um, because that's only a comment that's like the most common thing that I'll get from people
00:10:39.100 who dislike me or disagree with me.
00:10:41.500 And I think it's unfair because it's more of an act, you know, totally clear in every
00:10:48.040 single second of everything that I do.
00:10:49.480 Where do you draw the line between how much you're willing to share and be public about?
00:10:52.700 I think it is like a case-by-case basis because I just did this like four-hour long interview
00:10:58.800 where I basically shared everything there is to know about my childhood and that sort
00:11:02.160 of thing.
00:11:02.400 And it was more than I'd ever done before.
00:11:03.860 I share a lot more than I ever anticipated.
00:11:07.200 And I had a conversation with Alex the night before we were driving back from dinner at Sean's
00:11:11.540 house and we had a long conversation about my brother because I was kind of giving Sean
00:11:15.140 the update about what was going on with my brother, Reed.
00:11:17.480 And, you know, he had been on the streets.
00:11:19.440 I mean, it's just like a desolate, desolate system.
00:11:22.200 Is there anything that you've regretted being so open about or that you look back on and
00:11:27.120 just think, I wish I didn't say that or I wish I didn't share this part of myself?
00:11:31.420 I don't think so.
00:11:33.160 Yeah, they never have any regrets about sharing anything.
00:11:38.420 Yeah, and that's like what, so if you go for like a trad e-girl, that's just the, you
00:11:43.320 know, there's choices and trade-offs.
00:11:45.040 This is what's on the menu, right?
00:11:46.460 So it's like you, you, you sacrifice privacy to build her brand.
00:11:53.840 Um, you know.
00:11:56.380 Understated, secure, unflappable man I've ever met.
00:12:00.360 Would you say that's boosted your confidence overall?
00:12:02.460 Like all of those comments and the memes and everything?
00:12:04.660 Or would you say it's been an overall negative thing?
00:12:07.040 Oh God.
00:12:07.580 Oh God.
00:12:08.340 Okay, wait.
00:12:08.700 I'm trying to find.
00:12:09.560 Oh God.
00:12:09.620 Okay, wait.
00:12:09.660 I'm trying to find.