Pearl - When Pearl Meets Bad Faith： Marriage Is A Bad Deal For Men!

00:00:00.000 The marriage rate is lower than it's been since the Civil War, so that's based on census data.

00:00:04.160 Okay, so your argument is that marriage is a bad deal for men because of women.

00:00:07.300 Is that what you're saying?

00:00:07.940 I'm saying that marriage is a bad deal for men because of the risk of divorce, alimony, child support, and losing everything they worked for.

00:00:13.940 Okay, so I believe that marriage is a bad deal for men.

00:00:17.080 I disagree with you.

00:00:17.880 I think that marriage is emotionally, physically, and financially beneficial for men. 0.79

00:00:21.360 Married men, on average, live longer.

00:00:23.740 Married men, on average, on top of that, are twice as likely to stay the favor. 0.81

00:00:26.540 And that's because of the marriage?

00:00:27.300 Can you wait until I finish my marriage statement? 0.51

00:00:28.380 Yeah, let her finish your point. 1.00

00:00:29.360 Yes. Married men are twice as likely as unmarried men to state that they're very happy.

00:00:33.900 And on top of that, married men earn 10 to 20% more from their jobs than unmarried men.

00:00:39.100 Yeah. So the money I would attribute to women's spending habits. 1.00

00:00:41.920 So women make 85% of consumer buying decisions. 1.00

00:00:44.820 Women also put their top purchases on their husband's credit card. 1.00

00:00:48.740 So that's why they make more money. 1.00

00:00:50.520 They didn't say they have more savings.

00:00:51.940 Then why did they retire with 10 times the amount of assets?

00:00:53.800 Yeah, one at a time. 1.00

00:00:55.900 Happiness is just women taking credit for everything. 1.00

00:00:58.400 So people that get married, you tend to be a happy person if you get married. 1.00

00:01:02.800 They're selected because they're happy, good, high earning in the future people.

00:01:07.560 I don't think it's because of marriage.

00:01:08.820 I think they're just that kind of person.

00:01:10.020 So where are your sources from?

00:01:10.580 So, again, I would say that after the marriage, all of the happiness that had during,

00:01:17.320 it kind of goes down because after men are nine times more likely to commit suicide,

00:01:22.900 they're also more likely to be put on child support and alimony.

00:01:27.040 and women are more likely to get the house and the children so you could you could say that in the 1.00

00:01:32.300 beginning you could say is she just gonna yeah yeah if we could just let her finish and then 0.51

00:01:37.460 you could have so you could argue that during the marriage it's good but it's not offset by the risk

00:01:43.080 of divorce um and i've just seen too many men that have had their lives ruined where they can't

00:01:47.900 see their children um and they're put on absurd amounts of alimony and child support so especially

00:01:53.620 for men that don't make a lot of money um child support can lead them to be homeless or also

00:01:58.680 addicted to drugs because they get so behind on payments now oh sorry i'm sorry now you said a

00:02:04.740 lot why don't you let her respond to what you said already unless you are so what are your

00:02:07.560 sources for this do you have any legitimate sources for which part for every single part

00:02:12.080 so you stated specifically that men earn more money because women spend more throughout the

00:02:16.640 marriage then why do they retire women wait wait why do married men retire with 10 times the amount

00:02:21.140 of assets. Just for housekeeping, if I turn it over to y'all just for going forward, if one of 0.72

00:02:25.660 y'all asks the other person a question, you turn the mic back over to him just going forward. So

00:02:29.680 if you're going to ask a question, just make sure you either let me know it's rhetorical or if it's

00:02:32.960 a real question, but go ahead and finish out your question. Yes. So if married men earn more money

00:02:38.020 because women spend more money throughout the duration of the relationship, then why do married 0.77

00:02:41.700 men on average retire with 10 times the amount of assets? Well, one, women pick men that make 0.98

00:02:46.360 more money for marriage. I don't think it's because of the marriage. So what's your source?

00:02:49.820 And two, well, my source is women saying they want to make married men all the time. 0.73

00:02:54.260 So your source is, trust me, bro, your source is literally just he said, she said. 0.94

00:02:57.640 Well, the average earning, you just said that men earn more, like women are the ones picking them for marriage.

00:03:01.920 Yeah, but my source is the General Social Survey, the Institute for Family Studies, and the Harvard Men's Health Study. 0.85

00:03:06.220 You know the source name, congratulations.

00:03:08.580 Okay, well, you don't even have a source.

00:03:09.500 What I'm saying is that, well, it's developed from census data.

00:03:13.240 They get the incomes of married men.

00:03:17.060 But all of your arguments revolve around divorce.

00:03:19.080 You're talking about divorce as if it's this inevitability of marriage.

00:03:21.640 Well, it's about half.

00:03:22.260 The prompt is marriage is a bad deal for men, not divorce is a bad deal for men.

00:03:25.360 Well, it's about half.

00:03:26.080 It's not about half.

00:03:26.900 It's actually steadily declining.

00:03:28.020 As of last year, it's 40%.

00:03:29.260 Right, because less people are getting married.

00:03:31.140 That's not necessarily true.

00:03:32.380 Of the percentage of people who get married, only 40% could divorce.

00:03:35.720 So it's not 50%.

00:03:36.080 One at a time, please.

00:03:36.780 One at a time.

00:03:37.120 The marriage rate is lower than it's been since the Civil War.

00:03:39.940 So that's based on census data.

00:03:41.480 Okay, so your argument is that marriage is a bad deal for men because of women.

00:03:44.640 Is that what you're saying?

00:03:45.380 I'm saying that marriage is a bad deal for men because of the risk of divorce.

00:03:48.560 alimony child support and losing everything they worked for and all of those things you attribute

00:03:52.560 to women um women are the ones enforcing those laws yes okay so how about your mom pearl we're 0.99

00:03:59.280 going to talk your parents are happily married your parents have 10 children together your mom

00:04:03.520 was on the un women's board of directors your mom founded a non-profit called bx i will i will i will

00:04:10.560 i will just say this i i'd rather keep the families out of this if we can let's try to keep it to the

00:04:15.200 The topic at hand, I don't want people to talk about my mama.

00:04:18.060 I don't think that's appropriate.

00:04:20.060 I think maybe if possible, let's try to not do this.

00:04:23.220 She doesn't seem like she's comfortable with it.

00:04:24.100 Your only source is your anecdotal experience.

00:04:26.780 It's census data.

00:04:28.580 It's not census data.

00:04:29.500 That's not what you said earlier. 1.00

00:04:30.420 You just said that's what I've heard from women. 1.00

00:04:31.840 I think you're just here to argue. 0.99

00:04:34.640 We're all here to argue.

00:04:35.700 This is a debate show.

00:04:37.120 What are you talking about?

00:04:38.940 Right, but I think there's, I mean, it doesn't matter.

00:04:42.200 You got this, Pearl.

00:04:43.520 I mean, she's being combative.

00:04:45.680 Yeah, I mean, we are being combative.

00:04:47.120 That's fine.

00:04:47.760 I mean, let's move forward here.

00:04:49.800 Let's move past this last thing.

00:04:51.180 What is your next point here that it's a bad deal for men or it's a good deal for men?

00:04:55.780 Marriage is a better indicator of happiness in men than regular sex, than income and education.

00:05:01.040 This is proven by the General Social Survey.

00:05:02.660 You said earlier that sexless marriages are a large portion of why men watch porn, why men do all of these things,

00:05:08.000 when marriage itself is a better indicator of happiness for them than what you stated.

00:05:11.600 But then men are nine times more likely to commit suicide after they get divorced.

00:05:15.320 Yeah.

00:05:15.940 One at a time, one at a time.

00:05:17.280 It's about half.

00:05:18.660 But you talk about divorce as if it's an inevitable part of marriage.

00:05:21.440 That's not true.

00:05:22.560 Well, again, if I push a drug and let's say a quarter of people have side effects,

00:05:28.480 if you push marriage, there's going to be a percentage of men that get a really bad deal out of it,

00:05:32.240 and they should know what they're signing up for.

00:05:34.460 So I'm not here to say do it or don't do it.

00:05:36.400 That's up to you as a man.

00:05:37.400 You get to decide.

00:05:38.040 Are you drawing a comparison between marriage and drugs as if that's a legitimate comparison?

00:05:41.420 Well, yeah, what I would say is that I've seen men that have lost everything and it's

00:05:48.340 actually affected the way I view it a lot because there's just how I put it.

00:05:54.700 There's like a death in a man's eyes when he's lost his children and he's been put on

00:05:58.940 a lot of child support and alimony.

00:06:00.980 And until you've really seen that and interviewed those guys, I don't think you're going to

00:06:04.320 have the same point of view.

00:06:06.920 And if you run the data about what percent of men are on child support, there's a significant

00:06:11.180 portion that do pay a lot so i think you should and it's about it's about okay i interview women

00:06:18.560 all the time but i think you should interview women in place of men because if you talk to

00:06:22.100 their experiences right there's probably also death in their eyes when they talk about how

00:06:25.400 they were abused and they had to divorce and it was a good option for them so i don't know why

00:06:29.240 you're talking about divorce is if it substantiates your claim at all when your claim is that marriage

00:06:33.160 is a bad deal for men not divorce well men are nine times more likely to commit suicide after

00:06:38.020 divorce and I've and I've interviewed a lot of guys that were on the brink of it like I interviewed

00:06:42.740 um Terrence Popp 30-year veteran and he after being overseas the way that the law is set up 0.87

00:06:48.180 because he was deployed it automatically assumes that the woman is the better caretaker and that's

00:06:55.580 not really fair to him because he was doing what he was supposed to do for his country

00:06:58.420 and he was on the verge of committing suicide and there's a lot of men that that's happened to

00:07:04.760 and the data indicates that so you can take it or leave it it's fine but um i would say if you're

00:07:10.960 going to get married you should look at the laws in your state where do you find these men who

00:07:14.140 you're interviewing um the last one i got from a homeless shelter so i went to homeless shelter

00:07:20.800 and asked what percent are on child support okay i'm assuming that when there's thousands of men

00:07:25.800 right i'm operating under the well he saved 500 men from suicide so um he actually runs a non-profit

00:07:30.760 where men are saved from suicide so okay and that's a great story for him but that's not

00:07:34.960 supported by any legitimate data right like the topic is about marriage and you're pivoting to

00:07:39.040 this like these points these anecdotal examples about divorce who's put on child support men or

00:07:44.040 women who's put on child support men or women is the topic is child support bad is is like

00:07:49.440 i'm answering her question no you're right yeah that's fine if she's not gonna who's put on child

00:07:56.160 support at men or women well we're not talking about child support right now we're talking yeah

00:07:59.720 if you if you don't mind answering the question she has answered a few of yours who's put on

00:08:03.080 child support what do you mean who pays it who is put on child support children are put on child

00:08:08.520 support what do you mean i think she's referencing in regards to like uh divorce you know who

00:08:12.680 generally ends up having to pay the child support men or women men skip most of their child support

00:08:16.600 payments right because men do not pay them who pays child support who's put on child support

00:08:22.680 men or women are expected to pay they don't the majority of the time they don't okay that's not

00:08:27.400 true um are who pays alimony men or women alimony alimony is steadily decreasing i studied accounting 1.00

00:08:34.760 okay but who pays it men or women what do you mean are you stupid like who pays it are you 0.99

00:08:45.080 let's just go yeah we go back to it yeah yeah let's let's let's let's take it back one more 1.00

00:08:48.920 try here a little bit one more not sure before we go off the deep end i mean i'm answering her

00:08:53.640 Sure, yeah. If you don't mind answering the question, she has answered a few of yours.

00:08:57.600 She said, who pays alimony?

00:08:59.320 The majority of the time, men expect, women expect men to pay alimony. 0.99

00:09:04.300 Okay, who pays child support? 0.81

00:09:06.320 The majority of the time, men do, but they don't actually make the payments, right? 0.94

00:09:09.520 That's what we established. 0.76

00:09:10.120 Okay, who gets custody of the kids?

00:09:11.560 Who gets custody of the children? 1.00

00:09:12.920 The majority of the time, the women get custody of the children. 1.00

00:09:14.840 That's why they're getting child support payments, right? 1.00

00:09:16.740 Who gets kicked out of the house?

00:09:18.740 What are you talking about?

00:09:18.960 Who gets to keep the house in most divorces? 1.00

00:09:20.960 Probably the women, because they're taking care of the children, right? 1.00

00:09:22.940 Like, this is, like, pretty common sense. 0.98

00:09:24.620 Okay, so if you get married, that is a risk that you don't get authority over your own children,

00:09:29.820 that you're going to be put on alimony, you're going to be put on child support,

00:09:32.620 and you're going to lose the house that you bought.

00:09:37.500 And so I just think it's disingenuous to not say that is a real risk.

00:09:41.860 So what do you think men get out of marriage?

00:09:44.700 What do I think men get out of marriage?

00:09:46.020 What do they get out of it? 1.00

00:09:47.220 They live longer, as I've already stated.

00:09:48.900 They earn more money.

00:09:49.840 They retire with ten times the amount of assets.

00:09:51.620 and they're more likely to be happy.

00:09:53.580 Okay, companionship.

00:09:54.720 If the average marriage is seven years, do they get that?

00:09:57.480 That's not the average marriage.

00:09:58.620 I looked up that statistic because you've used it before.

00:10:00.840 The average marriage that ends in divorce is seven to eight years. 0.90

00:10:03.400 The average marriage is 20.

00:10:04.480 Okay, so, but if it still ends, do they get that?

00:10:08.180 If it still ends, do they get what?

00:10:10.360 Companionship?

00:10:11.060 No, but 68% of men who get divorced, remarry.

00:10:13.940 That's more than the percentage of women who get divorced and remarry.

00:10:15.560 Okay, so going to money, if they're put on child support... 1.00

00:10:17.800 We have to let her respond now. 0.99

00:10:18.900 Go ahead.

00:10:19.120 Yeah, if marriage is such a bad deal for men,

00:10:21.300 then how come they're more likely to remarry after divorcing if divorce is so bad as you've stated

00:10:25.160 than women are um because men will always do it they're romantics they're romantic so then why

00:10:30.720 aren't you married why has no one wanted to marry you let's keep the personal here out of this

00:10:34.440 please if we can yeah yeah yeah if we if you do it again i will have to yeah i don't i don't want

00:10:39.760 to have any personal attacks i hate to have to make this announcement let's kind of focus on

00:10:42.760 the topic i can uh if we can if we don't mind so that's last warning on this one okay you said

00:10:47.880 money if he loses money after divorce is he richer if he loses money if he's on child support and

00:10:53.460 alimony after is he richer but why are you talking about divorce as if i'm saying this again as if

00:10:58.380 it's an event because a percentage of men will get divorced yeah less than half not by much 40

00:11:04.900 percent of men will get divorced but you're talking about it as if it's a part of you're

00:11:07.680 saying 40 it's a substantial risk but then they get remarried pearl 68 of them do so so what's

00:11:14.460 the point like if your argument revolves i'm not telling men not to get married then what are you

00:11:18.580 telling them it's a bad deal it's favorable to women so your sources trust me bro why would they

00:11:23.080 take marital advice from you it's i don't give them advice but this is advice when you say i'm 0.97

00:11:28.180 saying it's a favorable contract to women and you agreed because you said that women are the ones

00:11:33.040 that are getting child support alimony and custody no that's favorable divorce divorce often that's

00:11:39.420 favorable to women divorce not marriage the prompt is not correct and so we're talking about marriage

00:11:45.440 specifically it is incredibly beneficial for men okay a percentage of marriages get divorced though

00:11:50.600 correct a percentage so you're extrapolating a small roughly half roughly half get divorced

00:11:56.120 correct roughly half roughly 40 let's be specific 40 and 50 is a big difference it is a big difference

00:12:04.540 It's the majority versus the minority.

00:12:06.660 Not by much.

00:12:07.560 So 40% get divorced. 1.00

00:12:10.220 And again, men are the ones paying child support, alimony, and she gets the house and the kids. 1.00

00:12:15.460 So it's favorable to women. 0.99

00:12:16.820 So your argument is, right, don't get married because 60% of the time you'll live longer, you'll earn more, you'll retire with more money, and you'll be happier. 0.95

00:12:24.840 But 40% of the time you might lose everything. 0.88

00:12:27.160 I think this proves that women take credit for everything because you are assuming that the men make money, are happier, and live longer 0.99

00:12:34.180 because of the woman. 1.00

00:12:35.200 And I would say that the man is – women pick men that do that anyway. 0.82

00:12:41.160 Okay. 0.90

00:12:41.440 So my arguments are contingent on research.

00:12:44.160 Your arguments are contingent on generalizations and interviews that you've done.

00:12:46.580 Are you just here to insult me?

00:12:48.480 No, I'm just here to ask you for your source.

00:12:49.540 You just don't like me.

00:12:50.460 It's fine.

00:12:51.240 I'm here to ask you for your source.

00:12:52.400 I don't really get that vibe.

00:12:54.060 I don't really get that vibe.

00:12:55.160 The vibe of a source?

00:12:57.000 I'm going to go ahead.

00:12:57.680 We're about at that time anyway.

00:12:58.520 Why don't you go ahead?

00:12:59.000 You have a closing if you want to give it, and then you get a final response.

00:13:01.360 Okay.

00:13:01.720 Nothing else?

00:13:02.620 No, I'm good.

00:13:03.200 All right.

00:13:03.600 Any final thoughts?

00:13:05.100 That's all I got.

00:13:05.600 All right.

00:13:06.260 Thank you so much.

Pearl - August 31, 2026

When Pearl Meets Bad Faith： Marriage Is A Bad Deal For Men!

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