Pearl - May 14, 2026


When Women ADMIT To Being Bad Mothers

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Length

6 minutes

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155.67

Word count

1,037

Sentence count

44

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Misogyny

7

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Toxicity

6

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Hate speech

10

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In this episode, I sit down with my good friend and mother-in-law, Chelle, to talk about her experience with postpartum depression after the birth of her daughter. Chelle talks about how she dealt with the grief of losing her daughter and how she was able to come to terms with the fact that she was a terrible mother.

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00:00:00 just accepted that she was a terrible mother you grieve not being this was at that time
00:00:07 you grieve not being the mother you thought you'd be and i wanted to ask you how do you hold that
00:00:13 grief without letting it define the mother you are today the grief has definitely gotten the best of
00:00:21 me many times many many many times um but it's transformed from grief it was grief in the
00:00:30 beginning um but because of the relationship that i do have with with her and how things ultimately
00:00:38 uh played out i'm incredibly grateful to to her she has an incredible father an incredible family
00:00:48 Um, and I, I no long, I, I don't feel it, even though it's not what I wanted to
00:00:57 happen and it's not what I hoped motherhood was gonna be or what it would look
00:01:04 like, I'm so lucky to that.
00:01:08 It turned out the way it did and that she is, um, safe and, and yeah, I think it
00:01:15 was around the same time.
00:01:16 negative way so because I know also you talk about how like when you finally did talk about it
00:01:22 explain to me the uh the complexity of and I asked this from the perspective of having so many
00:01:28 friends who've gone through postpartum depression the idea that anybody would think that I would
00:01:36 just give away my child and be okay with it is heartbreaking couldn't be further from the truth
00:01:43 You know, as you said, I was struggling with mental health and anxiety and the postpartum and having to act my way through it and just feeling like I completely lost myself.
00:02:04 misconception is that I have been in the past forced into treatment when in fact I have been the
00:02:12 one who has sought it out who who was saying I desperately need help I don't I you know I know
00:02:22 this is gonna look terrible but I am I am I cannot live like this anymore I have an incredible
00:02:29 relationship with her i go i travel as much as as i can i see her i do spend a lot of time on
00:02:36 facetime with her um but we talk about really deep things so we have a really intense incredible
00:02:45 um bond and i'm very grateful for that and i i know that she knows that she has two parents who
00:02:56 do anything in the world to make sure that she is happy and healthy mentally emotionally physically
00:03:03 spiritually um and she in no way feels abandoned okay so doug mpa he calls me um and i think this 0.81
00:03:12 is his sentiment in the chat she's a quitter and a loser and to some extent doug mpa is right she 0.95
00:03:18 is a quitter she is a loser she quit being a mother but i gotta play devil's advocate today 0.99
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00:04:26 35 and just gave the kid to the father and to her credit i was watching more of the interview
00:04:32 she gives what happened was she was going back and forth they were doing international co-parenting
00:04:38 it was hard on the kid and she never talks bad about the dad she said he's an amazing father
00:04:43 and she gave him the kid so the kid you know the kid now is like a young woman right and it was
00:04:49 like five languages according to her who knows could have been anything now doug mpa had a really
00:04:54 good argument for this he said um if a man did that he would be laughed at and you know she gets
00:05:00 the softball interview this is a complete double standard and to that i would say i agree but we
00:05:06 gotta start clapping i actually think we need to make hayden a saint put a one in the chat if you
00:05:14 wish your ex-wife just accepted that she was a terrible mother? What in the chat? What in the 0.84
00:05:25 chat? Put it in the chat. Put it in the chat right now. What in the chat? If your life would have
00:05:31 been easier if your ex-wife said, do you know what? I am a terrible mom. Take the kid. I'm
00:05:39 going to go to another country. I'm going to leave you guys alone. Doug at PA, we cannot shame this.
00:05:48 We cannot shame this. We need to normalize. We need to normalize letting women do what they want
00:05:55 and give the dad the kids. Now look, I hear what you're saying. But Pearl, but Pearl, women are so 0.89
00:06:01 nurturing. Have you learned nothing from this channel? Women have aborted an eighth of the 0.99
00:06:09 world population. An eighth. Women are not nurturing. Women are not nurturing. Women do 1.00
00:06:18 not care about them kids. So you got two choices, right? We could say, oh, she's a loser. Who's she's 1.00
00:06:26 a loser who's a bigger loser the woman that you know figured out she couldn't do it and she was 0.99
00:06:32 a terrible mother or the woman that pretended she could do it right and traumatize that child 1.00