Lasers_ Cavers _ Magic
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Stephen D. Kelly is an inventor and laser pioneer. He s worked in the defense industry and founded SK Industries, the producer of LAW-17 laser aiming systems used by law enforcement and military. He was a contractor for the NSA and worked on projects for the CIA. During this time, he was exposed to ETs, beam ships, alien politics, and technology. This led to deeper contact with secret groups, including Templars and Bilderbergers.
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This is Radio 314 on the Red Ice Radio Network.
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We're about to hear from Stephen D. Kelly, an inventor and laser pioneer.
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He's worked in the defense industry and founded SK Industries,
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the producer of LAW-17 laser aiming systems used by law enforcement and military.
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He was a contractor for the NSA and has worked on projects for the CIA.
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During this time, he was exposed to ETs, beam ships, alien politics, and technology.
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This led to deeper contact with secret groups, including Templars and Bilderbergers.
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Not too bad. Dealing with some strange energies as the year is starting to wrap up.
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Yeah, mercury and retrograde and all that going on right now, I think.
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Well, you have an interesting story, and I think it's a good idea to first begin with your professional background.
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Maybe you can tell us about you as an inventor and laser pioneer.
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Then we can get into the interesting specifics.
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Well, I worked for many years in the electro-optics industry on the glass elements that go into the lasers
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and a lot of the electro-optical systems from the military and fusion and micro-orthography
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and all these other areas that took off with the advances in those areas.
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Now, when I went into my own, I probably got recruited by the CIA really early to do some work with them,
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and this led to other adventures with what turned out to be the NSA,
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and that led to a big contract for making solid-state lasers.
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And this was back when solid-state lasers were kind of a new thing on the market.
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The CD players were just adventing, and they had gone from the big glass tube lasers
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And so I got this contract with what I thought was the CIA turned out to be the NSA,
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and it was for something like 40,000 of these lasers that they were going to be using in weapons.
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And target designators and target designators and all these things that we weren't really aware of.
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And that made me one of the biggest producers of these things in the world for some time.
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But that led to a falling out with them, and that's what started my journey in the metaphysical path.
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I still had my laser company going and went on to invent several products that kind of revolutionized the industry.
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I'm sorry, how were you approached by the NSA or the CIA?
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Well, they kind of keep an eye on people involved with the lasers and the high technology.
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They're looking for people that are going to come up with new developments,
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and they try to monitor and control those fields quite a bit.
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It turns out later on in the future that I would find out that they actually have the technology
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to know what people are going to do in advance, and they know who to keep an eye on.
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Well, that wasn't until many years later when I was exposed to some of the more secretive agencies.
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You know, they're dealing with the time travel and the aliens and all that sort of thing.
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When you say projects, several attempts were made to get me involved with places like Area 51 and whatnot,
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I had a family and six kids, and I wasn't going to disappear off into the desert.
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But I did do work locally on quite a few things and developed tactics and systems for these people.
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So at what point or specifically, what events triggered your suspicion of the people that you were working for?
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Well, the big epiphany was when I was sitting down one day with one of the bosses of the NSA people,
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and he was telling me about these admissions that they would do in Honduras,
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where they would go in there and they would surround the village and kill everybody
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and wipe out all the men, women, children, animals, dogs, pigs, goats, chickens, everything,
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and they would dig a big hole of the bulldozer if they would fly in,
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and they'd scoop everything, push it into the hole and cover it up.
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And I realized right there that these people that I was working for were not such good people.
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That caused me to have to go back and reevaluate all of my feelings about the country
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and what constituted good and evil and everything else.
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So that was the beginning of the journey and getting on to the path.
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And it only got even more interesting after that.
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Yeah, you said you became involved with the group who you refer to as the Cavers.
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Well, before that happened, after I was dealing with the NSA,
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I got involved with the Billy Meyer people and the Pleiadians
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and all of their information and technology that they were distributing through Billy Meyer.
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And this caused the scrutiny of the CIA and the various secret agencies to intensify.
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Well, it led to me developing some methods or some theories
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on building of these beam ships and alien propulsion technology and things like that.
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And that got me basically in a situation where they were trying to get me out into Area 51 again,
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They were throwing a lot of money around and trying to entice me with money.
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And that fell through as soon as I figured out who this was that I was dealing with.
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And subsequently, that led to another involvement with groups that were even more secretive,
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And I call these people cavers because they tend to operate out of these big bunkers
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I know where they are, and I'm going to get into that subject when I do this event.
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I promise that I wouldn't divulge too much prior to this alchemy event.
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That's pretty much what I'm going to be wanting to focus on,
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is my experience with these cave dwellers and the nature of some of these bunkers.
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And, you know, there are some of these things that are right out in the open that people see every day
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And that's really what I want to do is point it out to them
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and kind of wake them up to the existence of these things.
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From what you saw, what role do the cavers play?
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They think that they are gods among men, that they walk among us like giants.
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And they truly feel that they are righteous and that they have our better interest at heart.
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Their methods are less than loving, to say the least.
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And from what I understand of the politics of the aliens and the various entities that are out there,
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they basically fall into two camps, the service-to-self people and the service-to-others types.
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So these caver types, these Templar, Illuminati, Bilderberger people,
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tend to fall straight into the service-to-self camp.
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How much interaction did you have with the cavers?
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It got to the point to where originally I was dealing with them through other people.
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They were actually going through a recruiting process with someone else,
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And I had been involved in briefing this person during his indoctrination.
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And this came to the attention of the people that were doing the recruiting.
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And they decided that they needed to meet the people that were talking to their recruit.
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So I had basically personally became involved with these people,
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had face-to-face meetings and at least several occasions where we would, they would.
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Well, I mean, we talked for quite a bit prior to having the face-to-face,
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but once it got intense and they realized that we knew what was up,
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they figured that they really needed to try to get me involved with them and get me on their team.
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Well, I'd like to, naturally, yeah, these are bunkers that are there for protection.
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But in a way, it's very much like the medieval feudal society.
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The peasants, you know, in their dirt huts were still the peasants.
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And the castles are just as elaborate as you can imagine they were in the old days,
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only now they're underground and they're even more spectacular than you could imagine.
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So when you did these projects and you had contracts,
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did you have to sign a gag clause by any chance?
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No, there was never any kind of a contract, you know,
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because basically I did have contracts when I first got involved with these NSA people.
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I had a contract written up, you know, spent $1,000 to have an attorney, put something together.
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And they basically flat out said they didn't care if the contract was a foot thick.
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But as far as the gag clause, it wasn't until I got involved with these Templar Bilderberger types
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that they came up with their real technique for doing that,
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and that is they try to, they put you in the military.
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You don't have any rights, but that doesn't really make any difference now
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because since the Patriot Act has gone into effect,
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they can take you away, you know, without any recourse anytime they want.
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So you said you had a falling out with the NSA.
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Well, first of all, they, you know, when I had that sit down with them
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and I heard about these running around, you know, the way they would run around
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and kill these people, I knew that these were not good people.
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And it became clear to me that their intentions were not genuine.
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It was, I had something like a $2 million contract with them,
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and they had no intention of actually paying the money.
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and I had to work it out, work out the deal in such a way
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that I could extricate myself when the time came.
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and I ended up with a lot of product, laser, you know, materials
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that they had, you know, inventory that I had to essentially take
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And I thought for a good year or so that they were going to probably try to hurt me
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because when I was dealing with these Bilderbergers and the Templars
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and that, I, you know, at least a couple times,
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I thought for sure that I had stepped over the line
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and that they would do something, but they never did.
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Yeah, I heard you mention you said you were in the can't-be-killed club.
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They said that. That was their words, not mine.
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but I've got to warn anyone that would try to take me up on that challenge
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that the results might not be too positive for that person.
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Well, during your work, did you see or hear of any exotic technology
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Well, that's an interesting point because, needless to say,
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yeah, I was very much involved in trying to come up with alternative technologies
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It was essentially a big flashlight, but I was working on ways to use it
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for disabling people as well as modulating the beam in such a way
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But during the Clinton administration, I was asked by these Templar people
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to come up with some sort of device that could be used to fight aliens.
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And I don't know if this was a ploy to get me to focus my energies
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but the end result was that I realized that psychic powers
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were the only thing that could really be effective for that kind of application.
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And that's when I really turned over into the metaphysics community
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and started focusing on developing my own psychic skills.
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So did they actually identify themselves as Templars?
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Well, when the person that we were dealing with was going through the recruiting process,
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we didn't really know what the nature of these people were.
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We just thought it was some sort of a secret agency.
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And back in those days, you know, we knew about Area 51 and some of the, you know, the spooks.
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But when the guy was going through his recruitment process,
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he was basically told to start studying the history of the Templars,
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and he was actually shipped off to, told to go to fly over to the Isle of Malta for his initiation.
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And he went, that's where he went through the secret Templar rituals.
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I mean, everything you've heard about the head of John the Baptist and everything else,
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And when he came back from that, he wasn't really our little, you know,
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And he had swallowed the whole thing, hook, line, and sinker.
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And this includes the concept of polytheism and all of the elitism that goes with that.
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What can you tell us from what you saw when it comes to aliens and also government-built crafts?
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Well, first of all, the U.S. government, per se, isn't really building saucers.
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We have a small fleet that we got out of a treaty when they made the deal with the little grays after Roswell.
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And, again, there are two sides to this whole thing politically.
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And so these entities, for the most part, operate out of a level of reality that's different than ours.
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It's in a higher level of density, as it's called.
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And those entities tend to fly beam ship craft, which are very sophisticated and which I believe are using manufacturing techniques beyond what we're capable of doing here on Earth as of this time.
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Now, the Germans were developing craft that were able to attain light speed and this sort of thing, but they were using a technology developed by Victor Schauberger, which is really interesting technology.
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Of course, here in the United States, we have our own research on that type of propulsion that was performed by Townsend Brown, Robert Townsend Brown, I believe his name was.
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And we are using ion drive propulsion in some of the vehicles like the stealth bombers have this.
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I know that Boeing has been wanting to incorporate some of this technology into the commercial aircraft, but the government has decided that it's not, you know, the public isn't ready for that sort of thing yet.
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But my personal, because I was working very extensively with fine silver, and I developed a lot of theories about how these crops were actually constructed from fine silver because of the molecular nature of the silver ions and silver molecules.
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And because I'm involved with the semiconductor lasers, I was also developing theories about the utilization of that technology for propulsion and perhaps even a fusion source for a reactor on board.
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And then later on, you know, more recently in the 2000s, I was working with a project that actually used silver, fine silver as a lasing media for generating ultraviolet laser light.
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And to me, that was fascinating because it showed how you could essentially turn the surface of a beam ship that was made out of silver into a massive laser, which to me makes perfect sense because if you're trying to push something at the speed of light, the only thing that will move you at the speed of light is light.
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So do you think the government is staging alien abductions?
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The government isn't really doing the alien abductions per se.
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The treaty with the, the thing about the service to self entities with respect to the greys and the reptoids is that they require a human blood product, which is their food,
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which is part of their food, which is part of their food, the other half of their, their nutrition comes from a human psychic, negative psychic energy.
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And so, so basically part of the treaty that they made with these entities was to allow them to harvest so many humans and so much livestock and what have you and to, to do research and to trying to come up with some alternative.
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And from what I understand, that's the big thing over there at the base in New Mexico, Dulce, is that, uh, their, their primary focus is to try to come up with a, uh, synthetic substitute for the human blood that these aliens tend to, uh, uh, desire.
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Uh, I've had some encounters with some individuals that, uh, that appeared human to me that I had really had to wonder about.
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So, you know, whether or not they were clones or, or, uh, shape shifters or what, I don't know.
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But, uh, for the most part, the spirits and what have you tend to, uh, avoid me.
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You also mentioned you were exposed to alien politics.
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Well, the thing about the alien politics, you know, first of all, of course, you know, this business with the service to self and the service to others, that's, uh, that is a very big part of it.
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You've got to, uh, get, you know, that's kind of like this, uh, Republicans and Democrats, I guess, if you want to look at it that way, you know, white hats and, and, uh, and black hats, uh, very much a yin and yang type of thing.
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But even within the, say, like the Pleiadians, uh, there are, uh, different factions and, and, you know, they are human and, and, you know, they are human and there are, uh, there are clones and there are actually, uh, bad guys amongst them.
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Uh, you know, uh, you know, what, what they would consider criminals, uh, and then of course, you know, there's, there's something like 8,000 different entities, uh, out there and so many of them that are coming here.
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So, it's important to, to understand this because people will, they, they look at, uh, any kind of an alien, they just assume that it's a benevolent, you know, it must be, uh, higher intelligence, therefore, it must be only one, you know, to do good things.
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So, what I've, what I've learned to do is, um, take everything with a grain of salt, every bit of information and never assume that anything is 100% correct.
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And when it, when it comes to, uh, painting one side as being the good guys or the bad guys, you've got to give everybody the benefit of the doubt and never assume anything.
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So, even the guys that I think are most likely the, the, the good guys, I still have to, uh, kind of withdraw, uh, my final judgment.
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Yeah, I hear a lot of people talk about a galactic federation and it, it gives me the creeps because it makes me think of a different kind of new world order just in space.
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And, you know, the thing is, is that when you look at what's supposed to be the good side, uh, even when you advance into this fourth density, you've got, uh, psychic skills abound.
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You've got, uh, somewhat of not, I'm not going to say mind control, but when everybody can read everybody's thoughts, you know, you've, you've got to control yourself.
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And it's, uh, um, there, it's kind of a collective type of, uh, um, uh, policy and it's, um, it's definitely different than what we're used to now from an individual standpoint.
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And, uh, so it's hard to say, is that, is that really a good thing?
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But, uh, you know, it's all perspective, I suppose.
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You mentioned the Democrats and Republicans a little while back and nowadays they're pretty much the same thing.
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So, yeah, well, this is the thing about this level of density that we're on is that everything's all about, uh, polarity and they use this in, in just about anything.
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And, uh, you know, when we look at these two sides of, of issues, they're always two sides of the same coin.
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Now you were exposed to the Billy Meyer case, right?
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Because I know one of his sons was basically, I watched a YouTube video.
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He was saying that some of it was actually made up.
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Well, again, you know, you have to take everything with a grain of salt and, and I'm not going to swear that, that that's not the case.
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Because I've, I've certainly seen the, uh, the information that people have put out there debunking what he has to say.
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But, um, one of the biggest indicators of the validity of what, what was going on over there was the, uh,
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the massive increase in surveillance and, and, uh, spy activity that I had to deal with after coming into contact with these people.
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So that was, you know, so that was, you know, there was certainly something going on.
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They don't go to all that trouble to investigate and, and, uh, all the, all the resources to start, you know, following you around for the rest of your life just because of a hoax.
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So, and the other big thing was that, uh, the material that was allegedly provided to Billy Meyer by the, the Palladians that was fine silver and it was analyzed by a, uh, researcher from IBM.
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Uh, the, the, from what I know of what he was seeing in this sample, and bear in mind, this is a very, very tiny sample.
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Uh, this gave me insight into the, uh, mechanics of how, how these things were being built, you know, because even though it was a tiny, tiny little piece of silver, it had, uh, what they were describing as microscopic machining.
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And, uh, what I later realized was actually, it was assembled, uh, molecule by molecule.
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And it's, it's basically no different than a, uh, than a semiconductor, only the resolution and the detail is, uh, far beyond what we're capable of doing at this time.
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I also wanted to ask you about the jump room to Mars.
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I don't know if you've heard about it, but there's a group claiming to have gone to Mars.
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Well, uh, from what I understand, most of that, uh, is, is actually, uh, based over there in Long Island, New York, over at, uh, Montauk.
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And, uh, there's, you know, I've, I've actually know people who were involved in those projects.
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Uh, I know a physicist in London who worked, uh, closely with Al Bylock over there in Montauk.
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And, uh, so I've, I've heard about these things.
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And from what I understand, it's essentially like, uh, stepping into an elevator only, uh, when you open the door, you're on a different planet.
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You know, they've got them, they've got one on the moon, they've got one on Mars.
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And, uh, we, we call that phase shifting, actually.
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It's, um, the technology is not that, uh, strange.
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But, uh, when you understand that, uh, everything in the universe can be identified in the form of a sine wave,
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then it's the manipulation of that sine wave, that signal, is, is what it's all about.
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So, when we talk about a phase shift, it's like you take the whole sine wave and just kind of pick it up
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and set it down in a slightly different position.
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Just to go back to Malta real quick, do you think the orders from the NSA or the CIA come from Malta?
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Uh, well, again, you know, if you, you know, you want to get down and dirty, um, if you, if, the, the deeper you dig,
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you know, there's so many different organizations out there, you know, the CFR, the, uh, Trilateral Commission,
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the Bilderbergers, all these groups, the Masons, the, uh, Illuminati, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
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Um, it's, it's, it's like a big giant corporation and the, and these are all subsidiaries, uh, and, and arms of this corporation.
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And then when you get to the real power structure and you get, you start getting past humans,
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you get into fourth density entities and, you know, the reptoids and, and, and, and those guys
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and their whole power structure and political structure.
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Uh, but then if you go beyond that, you, you ultimately reach, uh, Satan.
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Now, whether you believe in Satan or not is, is irrelevant because they do.
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But so, yeah, ultimately that's who's in charge here on the earth.
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And, uh, supposedly that's all about to change and that's what this transition is all about.
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And, and, and bear in mind, 2012 is just a number.
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Time is, uh, time is like a rubber yardstick, you know, it can be manipulated.
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So, uh, so you can't really go by these, these numbers because they're, they're kind of artificial,
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So any other things you may know of and want to mention?
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I, I, I would say that, uh, the, the thing with psychic power is, is really extremely important.
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And, uh, and when, and I, if you get to the point to where you know anything about these, uh, these spy guys and these spooks,
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you'll find out that, uh, to them, it's very important.
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And, uh, you know, with all the technology and the alien technology and everything else,
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ultimately these, uh, brain power skills, these psychic skills tend to be more powerful than anything that, uh, that we can build.
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So where do you think technology is going to be in 10, 20 years from now?
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Well, again, you know, uh, that's assuming, you know, how transition is and whatnot.
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But, uh, if I had to, uh, um, if, if I had to say what, what, uh, direction actual technology is going to say, go,
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well, I would say that, uh, the discovery of the, uh, alternate spectrum of the, uh, scalar waves will be a big deal.
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Uh, the electromagnetic spectrum is what we're primarily dealing with right now with all of our electronic devices and,
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All of our technology is pretty much based on the electromagnetic spectrum.
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The, uh, future will involve utilizing, um, the scalar waves, which, uh, are kind of an alternate, uh, spectrum
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that, uh, runs kind of parallel to the electromagnetic spectrum.
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And the thing about scalar waves is that they travel faster than the speed of light.
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They are essentially instantaneous, and they're also, uh, 1,000% efficient.
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So, basically, you, this means if you're sending a scalar signal to a device, that device can
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basically be energized and powered by that signal.
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Say, like, if you had a scalar, uh, TV, for instance, you could probably run all your appliances
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off of that TV, scalar cell phone, whatever, anything like this.
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But the thing about scalar waves, again, and this is, you know, what I really want to ultimately
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focus on, is that this is the same energy that is produced by our brains and our thoughts
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Uh, when we do healing, uh, when, when I'm using Reiki to, uh, do healing, the energy that
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we're using, that we're moving with our hands and our minds is actually a scalar energy,
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It's actually energy that works in a, in this fourth density.
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Uh, so it's, it's really important to learn these things.
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Yeah, you said the result of these experiences led you to develop psychic skills.
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Well, again, this, this originally started out with this desire to try to come up with some
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method of dealing with the, uh, alien issue or the, uh, invasion of, of, uh, malevolent
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And, uh, that's when I realized that the, the human brain was way more powerful than, than,
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And, uh, this is when I got involved with the, uh, metaphysical community and the love and
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And, uh, start exploring my own psychic skills and learning about the, uh, you know, the esoteric
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And, uh, as a result of this, uh, I've learned about the nature of energy, uh, chi, prana.
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I, you know, I understand, you know, Hindu culture and the pranic healing as well as the
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Asian culture and the nature of chi, uh, acupuncture, acupressure, uh, Reiki and all of this sort
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And, uh, in the West, we refer to this, this, uh, phenomenon as magic in the Eastern cultures.
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They look at it more in a, uh, more as a spiritual, uh, psychic, uh, uh, process.
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So we are very, we are very, very powerful in this, um, this density that we're getting
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ready to move into this higher level of reality, these, these, uh, skills are going to become
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very important and they're going to become, uh, a very big part of, of our lives.
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So it behooves us to master them as much as possible, uh, so that when we do, uh, reach
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this stage, uh, this point that we will be able to, uh, to utilize these skills and we'll
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be able to help each other, uh, because most of the people, when we go through this process
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It's, you know, the, uh, reality is something that people hold very dear.
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And when you thrust a new version of reality in their face, they're going to freak out.
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What do you think is creating or prompting this change into a higher density?
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Well, it's an evolutionary process and this goes on, uh, many, many, many times.
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The earth goes through periods, which are actually epochs and the epochs last, uh, oh, something
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like anywhere, 23,000 years, I believe is, is the, uh, the period of the epoch.
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And, uh, each time, um, I guess what a couple of ways of looking at this, the earth passes through
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And, uh, the photon belt is essentially information that comes from the center of the universe,
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which you could refer to as source or, or, or dot, whatever, however you prefer.
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And, uh, and we go through these evolutionary processes and, and advance.
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It's constantly, uh, we're constantly working ourselves back up the pyramid, so to speak.
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It does feel like we're at the cusp of something.
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It's a, it's a tougher energy, especially the last few months.
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I don't know if you're, you've been feeling that, but I certainly have been.
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Well, I certainly did feel a big change right at the beginning of 2012.
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You know, it was almost like as soon as January 1st rolled around, the, uh, I noticed right
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Uh, and I don't eat as much, which is kind of weird.
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And that's, that's indicative of the increase of energy flowing through the body.
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Your, your nutrition needs are becoming more, uh, more of a spiritual need than, than the
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It's kind of a hassle to eat, but then you have to keep the flesh bag alive, you know?
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I can go, you know, sometimes just one meal a day and I don't even lose weight.
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So do you think things are going to get a little easier as we go into 2013?
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Is there going to be some kind of breakthrough or a separation?
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This is one of the reasons why it's important for us to develop these skills, these psychic
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skills and spiritual skills, because a, we need that for protection.
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Uh, we need to have a, uh, uh, spiritual protection.
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Uh, the other thing is also is that we can manifest.
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We can bring, uh, changes into our lives and into our realities now that will be based
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on our, our thoughts and our ability to create and manifest.
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So it's important that, uh, you know, of course, enlightenment requires knowing about everything,
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But at the same time, you want to focus on the positive things and try to manifest the
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In other words, if you're, you're watching the news and you're thinking about all the
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negative possibilities, you're going to manifest those things in your life.
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So you really need to, uh, elevate your consciousness, so to speak.
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So how do you think this is going to work with these energies and also the control system?
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Are they going to clamp down tighter or are we going to become more free of them?
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Well, there is a struggle going on between these two sides and, and I would like to think
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that the, uh, that the love and light energy is, is going to overcome the other.
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What, what the earth will be like afterwards is, uh, is a matter of, uh, perspective.
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But the number one rule right now, and this is really important for everybody because you've
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only got so much time to do this and that is to become more service to others than service
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to self because this graduation process, if you, uh, when we go into this transition, we're,
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we're going to basically have to choose which side we want to go on because in this higher
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level of density, these, uh, two sides don't coexist.
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They, they only do that on this level that we're on now.
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So you want to, you want to be on the good side.
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Otherwise, I can't promise you that it'll be a fun life.
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But then again, I also feel too, that so many people need to get their own house in order
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and they need to take care of them, their own self.
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And if everyone took care of their own self, then maybe we would be in a better place as well.
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You know, it's hard to take care of others when you yourself aren't, aren't whole.
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Well, that's, uh, that's that whole spiritual thing.
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And again, you know, like, uh, I guess from what you're saying, you do need to love yourself,
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you know, before you can serve others, you do need to love yourself.
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And, uh, I, I suppose in one way you could put that is that you need to control your ego.
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And when I say control your ego, that doesn't mean that you have to stop thinking that
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you're wonderful, uh, because yeah, you do have to love yourself and it helps to,
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to accept that you are wonderful, but you have to stop caring about what people think about you.
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They have issues about their, uh, their body or their, how they dress or their, their, uh,
00:41:14.640
You know, you've got to become humble and you've got to address your ego.
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And that is the first step to spiritual and psychic growth.
00:41:23.800
Well, speaking of economy, a lot of people are worried that the dollar is going to crash
00:41:31.840
Well, of course that's, uh, engineered and, and, uh, you know, they've been feeding it to
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So I guess you could say it's already gone to hell.
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You know, the dollars since the federal reserve came into, uh, play, I think our, our money
00:41:50.340
And obviously when the, uh, oil producing countries stop selling oil in dollars, the, the house
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of cards will fall down and obviously they don't like it when, you know, you look at Libya
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and Iraq, those are good examples of what happens when a country decides that they don't want
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Uh, Iran is another example of what, uh, what happens when you, uh, decide that you don't
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So, so yeah, it's, uh, it is a house of cards and it's very unfortunate.
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I would have liked to see Ron Paul have gotten elected and, uh, things are not looking up,
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but at the same time there is a struggle going on between the, these, um, space hippies, the
00:42:42.360
The, uh, well, the, um, you know, there's a couple, you know, as far as the, like the
00:42:48.440
metaphysical community is concerned, they, they talk about the Galactic Federation and they
00:42:53.420
say that the Galactic Federation is essentially coming here to, uh, to, to save us.
00:42:59.060
And, and those would be the service to other entities.
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And they even go so far as to say that the, uh, supreme commander of the Galactic Federation
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Uh, uh, you know, this is all very interesting.
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Um, and, and from what I understand, uh, with the, uh, weapons systems that are being utilized
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and, and, uh, some of the, uh, skirmishes that are allegedly taking place right now, yeah,
00:43:28.960
clearly the Illuminati is defending itself against the, uh, the Palladians and, and those
00:43:35.240
human type aliens that are coming here now to, uh, put an end to their reign.
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Uh, I think that you want to hear what I'm going to say coming this Saturday, because I
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think that I will be disclosing something that will probably, uh, take the lid off of
00:43:57.620
You mentioned something that, uh, the Alchemy Conference, that's what it's called, right?
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They're going to be turning off the live feed during your talk.
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I actually convinced him to turn the live feed on.
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I mean, they're still going to close the doors when I do it, but they're, they're going
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to turn the live feed on because there's no sense in, in keeping the information from
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We want to get it out there quick as possible to as many people as possible.
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Uh, well, you know, I keep a pretty low profile.
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I'm certainly not, uh, well, okay, I, I won't, I take that back.
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This thing at the Alchemy event is going to be my first really big, uh, public, uh, you
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But, and I, I try to, uh, donate my time as much as possible to serve others.
00:44:53.780
Tomorrow I'm going to actually go to a old folks home and to massage old, old people.
00:45:00.560
So that's, that's, you know, that's kind of the walking the walk, you know, if you know
00:45:07.720
Also, tell us about your book, Lasers, Cavers, and Magic.
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Oh, well, uh, well, the title kind of indicates the process that I went through.
00:45:17.900
You know, obviously the lasers represented my business.
00:45:20.900
Cavers is the, uh, association with the, uh, the Bilderberger types.
00:45:25.360
And then magic is the, the, the, uh, going into the, uh, um, the, uh, Reiki and, and all
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that sort of thing, the healing and the psychic development.
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I, uh, actually, uh, I wanted to get it done really quick in time for this, um, uh, conference.
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And I was helped out by TJ Morris, so I'll give a plug to TJ Morris.
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She does a lot of blog, talk, radio, and what have you.
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She's kind of a big name out there in the community.
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But, uh, she helped me get that thing done pretty quick.
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And I'm not trying to make, you know, a lot of money.
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You know, I would like as many people as possible to go to lulu.com and, uh, pick up a copy.
00:46:16.240
Uh, because the information in there is, uh, pretty extensive and there's a lot of things
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in there that I talk about that are extremely inflammatory and, uh, uh, enlightening in a
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So, yeah, that would be really great if, uh, the more people that could get that in their
00:46:38.120
hands, I think the, uh, quicker my message is going to get out there and less chance that
00:46:43.200
they're going to make me go away a la Bill Cooper and Schneider.
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The Alchemy Event Conference is this weekend, actually week and weekend, 16th, 17th, and