RadixJournal - Depeche Mode： Playing the Angel

00:00:00.000 It isacoast.com

00:00:30.000 I'm not sure what I'm looking for anymore

00:00:39.380 I just know that I'm harder to consult

00:00:43.460 I don't see who I'm trying to be instead of me

00:00:48.620 But the key is a question of control

00:00:52.540 I really like this album, Playing the Angel, quite a bit

00:01:03.180 I would say, yeah, I would say that it's interesting when I think about it

00:01:10.780 So I was in graduate school when this album was released

00:01:13.340 And at Duke

00:01:16.460 And this was also the time where Napster had finally fallen to iTunes

00:01:26.480 Maybe not completely

00:01:28.020 Or rather, iTunes had adopted the Napster model

00:01:32.500 And the whole CD industry had been destroyed

00:01:36.100 Which is, in my opinion, good riddance to the CD industry

00:01:42.340 But the least romantic way to listen to music

00:01:46.660 So I just remember this was the first Depeche Mode album

00:01:51.620 New Depeche Mode album, that is, that I downloaded

00:01:53.780 And Exciter was a difficult album

00:02:00.460 And I look forward to re-listening to it

00:02:06.500 Because I haven't really just sat down and listened to the album, in fact

00:02:09.880 And I always just kind of placed that one on the back burner

00:02:13.460 Of like, ah, yeah, you know

00:02:15.000 They didn't know who they were

00:02:16.460 And blah, blah, blah, blah

00:02:17.140 It's soft rock

00:02:18.060 And it's too digital

00:02:19.060 Etc, etc

00:02:19.700 But I look forward to re-listening to it, actually

00:02:22.560 But

00:02:24.320 This was an album that

00:02:27.160 I loved

00:02:29.140 I was listening to it all the time

00:02:30.720 On my, you know

00:02:33.480 Air

00:02:34.600 Not AirPods

00:02:35.380 Earbuds

00:02:36.760 And

00:02:37.960 I guess my

00:02:39.520 What are they called again?

00:02:42.120 iPods

00:02:42.560 Yeah

00:02:42.900 My iPods

00:02:43.860 And earbuds

00:02:44.400 Yeah

00:02:45.060 The Nano, I think, would have been out

00:02:46.500 Maybe I'm a little bit

00:02:47.600 Yes, the Nano was new

00:02:48.920 It was, it was like, incredible

00:02:50.660 And you could

00:02:51.500 Put it in the small, like, coin pocket of your jeans

00:02:55.280 And yes

00:02:56.080 It was incredible technology

00:02:58.120 Yeah, I think I was still on MP3s at this time

00:03:01.380 But yeah, like

00:03:02.440 Yeah, just to have, like, a hundred songs

00:03:05.420 Was, like, badass

00:03:06.340 Yeah

00:03:06.660 Yeah, it was

00:03:07.720 It was actually incredible

00:03:09.000 When you think about it

00:03:09.840 Because, anyway

00:03:10.900 This is a return to form

00:03:13.980 Devils thrive on the drive

00:03:16.520 That is fuel

00:03:17.600 All this running around

00:03:20.760 Well, it's getting me down

00:03:22.860 Just give me a pain

00:03:24.980 That I'm used to

00:03:26.800 I don't need to believe

00:03:29.300 All the dreams you can see

00:03:31.460 You just need to achieve

00:03:33.640 Something to bring it through

00:03:35.400 It has some great

00:03:47.220 Anthem-like songs

00:03:49.740 Precious being an excellent example

00:03:52.560 Also, Martyr

00:03:54.180 You know, it's a bit on the nose

00:03:55.760 I actually read

00:03:56.820 When I was doing some

00:03:57.760 Some kind of light research on this

00:03:59.980 There are no books

00:04:00.920 Or anything like this

00:04:02.560 Now that we're kind of late in the game

00:04:04.440 On Depeche Mode

00:04:05.040 Everyone wants to go back to the 80s

00:04:06.620 And discover the secrets

00:04:08.880 But Martyr was part of the album

00:04:12.960 And they cut it

00:04:13.840 Because it was too poppy

00:04:15.280 And it is a bit on the nose

00:04:16.780 But it's a fun pop song

00:04:19.980 From Depeche Mode

00:04:21.500 I've been a model for love

00:04:28.300 And I will die in the flames

00:04:32.500 As I draw my last breath

00:04:35.840 As I'm closing on dead

00:04:37.800 I will call out your name

00:04:41.160 I've been a model for love

00:04:46.120 Nailed up on the cross

00:04:49.700 While you're having your fun

00:04:53.640 As the damage is done

00:04:55.640 I'm assessing the cost

00:04:59.080 I knew what I was letting myself

00:05:06.080 I knew that I could never even underscore

00:05:14.920 Let's go to the track list

00:05:18.840 Suffer Well

00:05:19.800 A Pain That I'm Used To

00:05:23.140 John the Revelator

00:05:24.120 Might even be my favorite song

00:05:25.880 And it's very Depeche Mode

00:05:28.340 It is more mature

00:05:29.740 But they're not pretending like they're 25

00:05:33.540 But they're also not acting 50 as well

00:05:38.960 It's also more raw

00:05:41.760 If that's the right word

00:05:42.920 I think this was the best album

00:05:45.160 That Hillier produced

00:05:47.320 Because I think Hillier

00:05:48.960 No doubt consciously

00:05:51.240 Wanted to get them back

00:05:52.860 To where they were

00:05:54.200 To get away from

00:05:55.680 Too digital or synthesized

00:05:58.120 Get them back to

00:05:59.400 What really sounds like

00:06:01.380 Depeche Mode

00:06:02.220 That will please the fans

00:06:03.500 Etc

00:06:03.980 And I think he accomplished that

00:06:06.740 Best on this album

00:06:08.540 It doesn't leave you disappointed

00:06:11.740 Like Sounds of the Universe

00:06:13.040 It's not a interesting

00:06:16.040 If kind of failed attempt

00:06:19.260 At blues like Delta Machine

00:06:21.820 And in fact it has the blues in this

00:06:25.020 But it actually does it

00:06:26.140 In a very Depeche Mode way

00:06:27.280 Like John the Revelator

00:06:28.280 Is a

00:06:29.040 It's actually going back

00:06:30.240 To this old blues song

00:06:31.720 By like blind Willie Johnson

00:06:35.180 Johnson

00:06:35.740 Yeah

00:06:36.640 I mean pretty remarkable

00:06:38.340 But

00:06:38.840 They totally

00:06:41.180 Imbibed it

00:06:42.920 And made it

00:06:43.720 Their own

00:06:44.380 And so they're not just

00:06:45.760 Trying to sing the blues

00:06:47.340 Like they were

00:06:47.960 In Delta Machine

00:06:48.800 Well, who's that

00:06:50.640 Riding

00:06:51.320 Johnny Revelator

00:06:53.180 Who's that

00:06:54.520 Riding

00:06:55.120 Who's that

00:07:10.460 Riding

00:07:11.000 What's John a ridin'?

00:07:13.680 Mount the Revelator

00:07:15.080 Way book of the summer

00:07:17.100 John a revelator

00:07:21.820 Put him in an elevator

00:07:23.440 Take him up to the higher side

00:07:26.540 Take him up to the top

00:07:29.260 Where the mountain is dark

00:07:30.960 Let him tell his book of lies

00:07:34.020 John a revelator

00:07:36.620 He's a smooth operator

00:07:38.460 It's time we cut him down to size

00:07:41.400 Take him by the hand

00:07:44.120 Put him on the stand

00:07:45.920 Let him see who's at the box

00:07:48.840 By claiming God

00:07:51.240 That is all you're on

00:07:53.120 He's stealing a God

00:07:54.920 From Israelite

00:07:56.820 And so I just think it's

00:08:00.020 Excellent

00:08:01.780 And you know

00:08:04.540 I sat down

00:08:05.800 And I actually listened to it on vinyl

00:08:07.880 Which is kind of funny

00:08:08.960 Because maybe I should have

00:08:09.960 Maybe I should have found

00:08:11.540 My old iPod

00:08:12.820 And like downloaded music

00:08:15.260 And put it on the iPod

00:08:16.620 And listened to it on really bad

00:08:18.780 Ear buds

00:08:20.260 So that I could

00:08:21.060 You know

00:08:21.640 Relive the experience

00:08:23.440 But

00:08:24.600 I would actually

00:08:25.680 Recommend against

00:08:27.480 Doing that

00:08:28.580 We can get into a little bit

00:08:31.380 Why later

00:08:32.620 Oh okay

00:08:33.580 Interesting

00:08:34.000 But

00:08:35.520 But yeah

00:08:36.880 No I listened to it on vinyl

00:08:38.140 And

00:08:39.560 Yeah

00:08:42.440 It was

00:08:43.360 Really banging

00:08:44.940 From the very beginning

00:08:45.960 Like it just

00:08:46.640 The first whole record

00:08:47.840 Is just all great

00:08:49.540 And

00:08:50.680 I like

00:08:52.060 The second record

00:08:53.660 As well

00:08:54.320 Which

00:08:54.600 Which has more

00:08:55.680 Kind of

00:08:57.000 B-sidey

00:08:58.420 Type tracks

00:08:59.380 I mean

00:08:59.660 They

00:09:00.160 I read that

00:09:01.240 They cut

00:09:02.120 Martyr

00:09:02.640 Because it was

00:09:03.780 Too poppy

00:09:04.540 And

00:09:05.180 That's interesting

00:09:06.840 That they

00:09:07.240 Wanted

00:09:08.000 They

00:09:08.220 They didn't want to

00:09:09.360 Be too on the nose

00:09:10.380 Or too obvious

00:09:11.660 And sing about

00:09:12.760 You know

00:09:13.000 I'm a martyr

00:09:13.540 For love

00:09:14.220 And I'm calling out

00:09:15.180 Your name

00:09:15.620 As I'm going up

00:09:16.340 In flame

00:09:16.740 And all that

00:09:17.060 That was just

00:09:17.860 A little

00:09:18.160 Too easy

00:09:19.420 In a way

00:09:19.900 It was almost

00:09:20.220 Like a parody

00:09:20.920 Of a Depeche Mode

00:09:21.640 Song

00:09:21.980 Which is

00:09:22.400 You know

00:09:23.040 Maybe a

00:09:23.580 Criticism

00:09:24.060 You could

00:09:24.400 Be

00:09:24.620 But they

00:09:26.200 They wanted

00:09:26.840 An interesting album

00:09:28.100 They wanted

00:09:28.560 A darker album

00:09:29.300 They wanted

00:09:29.700 A raw album

00:09:31.620 In a sense

00:09:32.060 It's a synth album

00:09:33.220 There's not a lot

00:09:34.200 Of guitar

00:09:34.700 On it

00:09:35.400 At all

00:09:35.940 But it

00:09:37.380 Feels like

00:09:38.540 An album

00:09:39.060 That could

00:09:39.940 Have been

00:09:40.400 Produced

00:09:41.440 Between

00:09:42.760 Music for the

00:09:43.800 Masses

00:09:44.200 And Violator

00:09:44.840 Maybe

00:09:45.200 And

00:09:46.600 So I

00:09:47.720 Yeah

00:09:48.580 I would say

00:09:49.200 In terms of

00:09:49.820 Late period

00:09:50.720 Depeche Mode

00:09:51.500 Definitely

00:09:52.580 In terms of

00:09:53.340 Hillier

00:09:53.760 Ben Hillier

00:09:54.420 Being the producer

00:09:55.100 This is the best

00:09:56.740 And those are

00:09:57.560 My opening thoughts

00:09:58.380 Yeah

00:10:00.440 I'd have to

00:10:00.920 Co-sign

00:10:01.400 Just about

00:10:01.840 Every single

00:10:02.400 One of them

00:10:03.740 I think

00:10:04.520 The album

00:10:05.280 I'm going to

00:10:06.100 Go out on a

00:10:06.620 Limb here

00:10:06.940 Just a little

00:10:07.360 Bit

00:10:07.580 I think

00:10:08.060 The album

00:10:08.480 Is like

00:10:08.860 A

00:10:09.160 It's like

00:10:10.060 A Martin

00:10:10.560 Album

00:10:11.340 Kind of

00:10:12.080 Like Black

00:10:12.480 Celebration

00:10:13.120 Or Ultra

00:10:13.780 Or Broken

00:10:14.380 Frame

00:10:14.860 Were

00:10:15.160 In the

00:10:16.640 Sense that

00:10:17.340 The album

00:10:18.360 Feels as though

00:10:19.520 Martin Gore

00:10:20.180 Was the

00:10:20.540 Driving force

00:10:21.320 As the

00:10:21.820 Songwriter

00:10:22.640 Obviously

00:10:24.280 But also

00:10:25.060 As the

00:10:25.820 Singer

00:10:26.120 And sort of

00:10:26.620 Like the

00:10:27.160 Developer

00:10:27.540 Of the

00:10:28.000 Like emotion

00:10:28.740 Of the

00:10:29.400 Album

00:10:29.780 Okay

00:10:30.580 And

00:10:31.260 I think

00:10:32.860 Just the

00:10:33.900 Term or

00:10:35.280 Phrase

00:10:35.640 Playing the

00:10:36.240 Angel

00:10:36.560 Sums up

00:10:37.340 Like Gore's

00:10:38.400 Songwriting

00:10:38.880 Style

00:10:39.400 In like

00:10:39.820 One

00:10:40.080 Phrase

00:10:40.620 And

00:10:41.620 This time

00:10:42.860 Just personally

00:10:43.700 For him

00:10:44.340 Was a

00:10:45.500 Pretty tumultuous

00:10:46.360 Time

00:10:46.660 Because

00:10:47.020 It was in

00:10:48.560 The midst

00:10:48.820 Of his

00:10:49.060 Divorce

00:10:49.800 I should

00:10:50.360 Say

00:10:50.640 And his

00:10:51.440 Alcoholism

00:10:52.220 Had sort

00:10:53.240 Of peaked

00:10:53.860 And

00:10:54.780 After this

00:10:55.820 Album

00:10:56.120 He gets

00:10:56.400 Clean

00:10:56.760 And

00:10:58.060 But it's

00:10:59.180 Also

00:10:59.420 Yeah

00:11:00.660 And also

00:11:01.920 It's like

00:11:02.440 A Dave

00:11:03.720 It's still

00:11:04.400 Like Dave's

00:11:05.220 Probably best

00:11:06.220 Song he's

00:11:06.760 Made with

00:11:07.700 The band

00:11:08.180 Suffer

00:11:09.260 Well

00:11:09.560 Is on

00:11:10.000 Here

00:11:10.140 Too

00:11:10.300 So I'm

00:11:10.680 Not like

00:11:11.020 Totally

00:11:11.280 Discounting

00:11:11.860 It

00:11:12.040 But I

00:11:12.600 Think

00:11:12.800 There are

00:11:13.520 Definitely

00:11:13.760 Some autobiographical

00:11:15.020 Elements

00:11:15.660 To this

00:11:16.800 Album

00:11:17.700 But what's

00:11:19.340 Interesting too

00:11:19.940 About Dave's

00:11:21.100 Bit in

00:11:22.220 This album

00:11:22.820 Or his

00:11:23.400 Songs

00:11:23.900 Is that

00:11:24.700 There were

00:11:25.420 I was

00:11:25.740 Watching some

00:11:26.640 Interviews

00:11:27.200 From around

00:11:27.780 This time

00:11:28.180 And he

00:11:28.400 Was saying

00:11:28.760 That like

00:11:29.200 He finally

00:11:30.440 Felt as

00:11:30.980 Though he

00:11:31.300 Was like

00:11:31.640 Part of

00:11:32.100 The band

00:11:32.440 Like he

00:11:32.760 Was contributing

00:11:33.320 Something

00:11:33.780 Which is a

00:11:35.120 Bit harsh

00:11:35.620 And self

00:11:36.220 Deprecating

00:11:36.800 But you

00:11:37.940 Know I

00:11:38.160 Think that

00:11:38.500 Says a

00:11:38.860 Lot

00:11:39.140 About he

00:11:40.500 Was basically

00:11:41.180 The singer

00:11:42.080 And the

00:11:42.680 Showman

00:11:43.120 With Martin

00:11:44.160 Obviously being

00:11:44.780 The ideas

00:11:45.260 Guy and

00:11:45.760 Alan like

00:11:46.240 The craftsman

00:11:46.860 And fletch

00:11:48.520 Like a

00:11:48.900 Foosball

00:11:49.360 Player or

00:11:49.800 Whatever

00:11:50.040 But like

00:11:50.880 It speaks

00:11:51.820 To their

00:11:52.120 Specialization

00:11:52.880 But anyway

00:11:54.200 On this

00:11:54.700 Album

00:11:54.980 I think

00:11:55.380 The majority

00:11:56.240 Of the

00:11:56.560 Songs

00:11:56.780 Are at

00:11:57.120 Least

00:11:57.320 Good

00:11:57.840 But it

00:11:59.160 Suffers

00:11:59.760 From what

00:12:00.560 A lot

00:12:00.920 Of albums

00:12:01.420 In the

00:12:01.700 21st

00:12:02.760 And before

00:12:03.720 Century

00:12:04.620 Suffer from

00:12:05.680 And in

00:12:06.160 That it's

00:12:06.660 A little bit

00:12:07.560 Too loud

00:12:08.120 A little bit

00:12:08.860 Too compressed

00:12:09.600 Which results

00:12:10.720 In like

00:12:11.200 Too much

00:12:12.200 And not

00:12:12.500 Enough

00:12:12.760 It's like

00:12:13.080 Too much

00:12:13.640 In the

00:12:14.120 Volume

00:12:14.560 Sense

00:12:14.880 You're just

00:12:15.380 Hearing like

00:12:15.800 A super

00:12:16.840 Strong

00:12:17.240 Like bass

00:12:18.280 Or bass

00:12:19.580 Drum

00:12:20.080 And snare

00:12:21.040 But you're

00:12:22.540 Not hearing

00:12:23.260 You know

00:12:24.320 The little

00:12:24.620 Subtleties

00:12:25.200 Because this

00:12:25.920 Stuff is

00:12:26.240 Getting like

00:12:26.600 Crowded out

00:12:27.180 In the

00:12:27.540 Mix

00:12:27.860 And it

00:12:29.780 Doesn't allow

00:12:30.400 For the

00:12:30.680 Record to

00:12:31.100 Like breathe

00:12:31.580 Or whatever

00:12:32.020 And that

00:12:33.380 Was a

00:12:33.620 Popular

00:12:33.960 Criticism

00:12:34.640 Actually

00:12:35.100 And that's

00:12:35.920 Why I

00:12:36.340 Say that

00:12:37.120 Listening to

00:12:37.860 It on

00:12:38.500 An iPod

00:12:40.180 Or listening

00:12:41.620 To it

00:12:41.960 Digitally

00:12:42.440 Is not

00:12:43.100 It's probably

00:12:44.280 Not as

00:12:44.700 Good of an

00:12:45.340 Idea

00:12:45.700 And there

00:12:46.700 Was actually

00:12:47.080 A fan

00:12:47.680 Who

00:12:48.020 Or a

00:12:48.440 Critic

00:12:49.100 Who

00:12:49.320 Compared

00:12:49.740 The vinyl

00:12:50.480 To the

00:12:51.680 CD version

00:12:52.340 And he

00:12:53.280 Could show

00:12:54.000 You in

00:12:54.640 Like sound

00:12:55.440 Waves

00:12:55.880 Just how

00:12:56.620 Over compressed

00:12:57.660 The CD

00:12:58.480 Version of

00:12:59.720 Playing the

00:13:00.140 Angel was

00:13:00.800 And yeah

00:13:02.200 I can send

00:13:02.740 It to you

00:13:03.240 If you're

00:13:03.620 Interested

00:13:03.920 After the

00:13:04.980 After the

00:13:05.760 Podcast

00:13:06.040 But like

00:13:06.540 It just

00:13:07.220 Shows

00:13:07.700 Like he

00:13:08.860 Took just

00:13:09.500 Precious

00:13:10.040 And he

00:13:10.220 Compared

00:13:10.560 CD to

00:13:11.200 Vinyl

00:13:11.660 And he

00:13:13.540 Was basically

00:13:14.680 Saying like

00:13:15.280 Look I'm

00:13:15.920 Not like a

00:13:16.340 Super vinyl

00:13:17.000 Head or

00:13:17.540 Whatever

00:13:17.780 But let's

00:13:18.220 Just see

00:13:18.660 If this

00:13:19.800 There's

00:13:20.080 Anything

00:13:20.660 If any

00:13:21.460 Of this

00:13:22.220 Has any

00:13:22.520 Truth to

00:13:22.880 It

00:13:23.020 So he

00:13:24.560 Compared

00:13:24.920 Them and

00:13:25.420 Like he

00:13:26.020 Took precious

00:13:26.540 From both

00:13:27.180 CD and

00:13:27.840 Analog

00:13:28.580 And the

00:13:29.720 CD was

00:13:30.220 Just like

00:13:30.660 The whole

00:13:31.720 It was just

00:13:32.740 Off the

00:13:33.160 Shards

00:13:33.500 Just too

00:13:34.300 Compressed

00:13:34.800 Too loud

00:13:35.660 And just

00:13:36.080 Too much

00:13:36.780 Basically

00:13:37.340 Like I

00:13:38.820 Guess the

00:13:39.180 Word might

00:13:39.940 Be like

00:13:40.240 Over

00:13:40.580 Normalized

00:13:41.300 Like making

00:13:42.020 A sound as

00:13:42.660 Loud as it

00:13:43.160 Can be

00:13:43.420 Without

00:13:43.700 Peaking

00:13:44.080 But like

00:13:44.640 It's still

00:13:45.180 Peaking

00:13:45.640 If that

00:13:46.140 Makes sense

00:13:46.580 But other

00:13:48.420 Than that

00:13:48.900 I think

00:13:49.700 This is

00:13:50.260 An excellent

00:13:50.940 Album

00:13:51.320 The songs

00:13:52.800 Are like

00:13:53.440 Very energetic

00:13:54.540 Considering their

00:13:55.460 Age and

00:13:55.960 Considering a lot

00:13:56.620 Of the material

00:13:57.140 On it

00:13:57.680 The average

00:13:58.840 Like BPM

00:13:59.480 Is like

00:13:59.720 120

00:14:00.140 Which is

00:14:00.720 Like mint

00:14:01.600 Like dance

00:14:02.500 Records

00:14:03.260 You know

00:14:03.760 One criticism

00:14:04.980 I'll make

00:14:05.400 Is that it's

00:14:05.780 A little bit

00:14:06.180 Front heavy

00:14:06.840 Not all the

00:14:07.640 Singles

00:14:08.060 Are in the

00:14:08.620 Front

00:14:08.840 But in a

00:14:09.820 Way

00:14:10.080 That might

00:14:10.920 Make this

00:14:11.440 Album

00:14:11.720 Like the

00:14:12.140 Best

00:14:12.900 Intro

00:14:14.360 To

00:14:14.880 Depeche

00:14:15.840 Mode

00:14:16.040 Like if

00:14:16.380 I was

00:14:17.240 Playing

00:14:17.560 Depeche

00:14:18.040 Mode

00:14:18.240 To somebody

00:14:18.680 I might

00:14:19.080 Play this

00:14:19.480 One

00:14:19.740 First

00:14:20.320 Had they

00:14:20.680 Never

00:14:20.920 Heard

00:14:21.240 Of the

00:14:21.940 Band

00:14:22.120 Before

00:14:22.440 Yeah

00:14:24.980 Now

00:14:25.820 Let me

00:14:26.900 Offer

00:14:28.360 Some

00:14:29.640 Criticisms

00:14:31.420 Here

00:14:31.780 So

00:14:32.200 The

00:14:33.800 The

00:14:35.560 Subtitle

00:14:36.340 Black

00:14:36.720 Celebration

00:14:37.480 Is

00:14:37.780 Songs

00:14:38.780 In our

00:14:39.200 So-called

00:14:39.680 Space

00:14:40.140 Age

00:14:40.460 Or something

00:14:40.880 Like that

00:14:41.480 And as

00:14:42.460 We

00:14:42.680 As we

00:14:43.900 Noted

00:14:44.320 It

00:14:44.580 Doesn't

00:14:45.420 Make

00:14:46.340 Sense

00:14:46.980 Exactly

00:14:48.280 This

00:14:50.620 This

00:14:51.120 Album

00:14:51.520 Not all

00:14:51.940 Albums

00:14:52.280 Have a

00:14:52.480 Subtitle

00:14:52.880 This one

00:14:53.200 Does

00:14:53.460 It's

00:14:53.680 Pain

00:14:54.080 And

00:14:54.280 Suffering

00:14:54.700 In

00:14:54.880 Various

00:14:55.280 Tempos

00:14:55.840 And

00:14:57.440 You know

00:15:01.180 Suffer

00:15:01.960 Well

00:15:02.440 A

00:15:03.340 Pain

00:15:03.800 That

00:15:04.020 I'm

00:15:04.220 Used

00:15:04.480 To

00:15:04.960 Martyr

00:15:06.020 For

00:15:06.260 Love

00:15:06.840 The

00:15:08.200 Sinner

00:15:08.640 In

00:15:08.820 Me

00:15:09.260 Damaged

00:15:11.100 People

00:15:11.620 What I'm

00:15:13.740 Getting

00:15:14.000 At

00:15:14.300 Is

00:15:14.520 There

00:15:17.020 There

00:15:18.900 Almost

00:15:19.240 Is

00:15:19.840 A

00:15:20.260 Quality

00:15:20.920 Of

00:15:21.320 Self

00:15:21.860 Parody

00:15:22.480 Here

00:15:23.920 Like if

00:15:24.440 You

00:15:24.640 Were

00:15:24.880 If

00:15:25.540 You

00:15:25.740 Were

00:15:25.880 To

00:15:26.020 Offer

00:15:26.620 A

00:15:27.000 Parody

00:15:27.800 Of

00:15:28.540 Depeche

00:15:29.060 Mode

00:15:29.440 It

00:15:29.800 Would

00:15:29.940 Be

00:15:30.140 Pain

00:15:30.540 And

00:15:30.740 Suffering

00:15:31.200 In

00:15:31.380 Various

00:15:31.780 Tempos

00:15:32.300 And

00:15:34.040 So

00:15:35.120 I'm

00:15:35.700 Just

00:15:36.300 Saying

00:15:37.040 Again

00:15:38.080 I'm

00:15:38.900 Glad

00:15:39.280 They

00:15:40.400 Did

00:15:41.040 This

00:15:41.440 But

00:15:41.840 I'm

00:15:42.120 Also

00:15:42.380 Glad

00:15:42.960 That

00:15:43.200 They

00:15:43.420 At

00:15:43.780 Least

00:15:44.400 Are

00:15:44.640 Trying

00:15:45.460 Something

00:15:45.840 Else

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00:15:46.500 I

00:15:46.680 And

00:15:47.180 Maybe

00:15:47.660 Not

00:15:47.940 Even

00:15:48.120 Trying

00:15:48.460 Something

00:15:48.740 Else

00:15:49.020 Totally

00:15:49.660 Successfully

00:15:50.600 But

00:15:51.580 I

00:15:52.320 Do

00:15:52.700 Feel

00:15:53.160 Like

00:15:53.500 This

00:15:53.840 Was

00:15:54.360 A

00:15:55.140 Culmination

00:15:57.100 Of

00:15:57.300 The

00:15:57.440 Sound

00:15:57.860 You

00:15:58.220 Can

00:15:58.400 Hear

00:15:58.720 Some

00:15:59.060 Violator

00:15:59.680 In

00:15:59.840 There

00:15:59.980 You

00:16:00.080 Can

00:16:00.180 Hear

00:16:00.280 Some

00:16:00.460 Ultra

00:16:00.960 In

00:16:01.300 There

00:16:01.580 You

00:16:02.140 Can

00:16:02.280 Hear

00:16:02.480 Some

00:16:02.820 Songs

00:16:03.380 Of

00:16:03.540 Faith

00:16:03.720 And

00:16:03.880 Devotion

00:16:04.320 In

00:16:05.500 There

00:16:05.880 And

00:16:07.040 That's

00:16:07.520 Great

00:16:07.920 And

00:16:08.500 I

00:16:08.800 Love

00:16:09.080 It

00:16:09.220 And

00:16:09.340 I

00:16:09.520 Agree

00:16:09.860 Like

00:16:10.140 I

00:16:10.680 Never

00:16:10.880 Even

00:16:11.080 Thought

00:16:11.380 Of

00:16:11.500 This

00:16:11.720 But

00:16:11.960 Maybe

00:16:12.320 If

00:16:12.920 You

00:16:13.060 Were

00:16:13.160 Going

00:16:13.260 To

00:16:13.380 Hand

00:16:13.800 An

00:16:14.000 Album

00:16:14.380 To

00:16:15.260 Someone

00:16:15.620 Who's

00:16:15.860 Never

00:16:16.100 Listened

00:16:16.480 To

00:16:16.600 Depeche

00:16:16.900 Mode

00:16:17.120 Like

00:16:17.320 This

00:16:17.740 Might

00:16:18.040 Be

00:16:18.200 A

00:16:18.300 Good

00:16:18.420 Intro

00:16:18.860 I

00:16:19.060 Mean

00:16:19.220 Yeah

00:16:19.760 That

00:16:20.140 Makes

00:16:20.380 Sense

00:16:20.720 But

00:16:21.340 Then

00:16:21.700 It

00:16:22.460 Also

00:16:22.980 Almost

00:16:24.580 Borders

00:16:25.500 On

00:16:25.800 Like

00:16:25.980 Self

00:16:26.440 Aware

00:16:26.840 Self

00:16:27.260 Parody

00:16:27.800 And

00:16:28.740 I

00:16:28.900 Don't

00:16:29.120 Think

00:16:29.300 It

00:16:29.440 Is

00:16:29.720 That

00:16:30.100 But

00:16:31.900 I'm

00:16:32.340 Just

00:16:32.660 Saying

00:16:33.160 As

00:16:33.980 They

00:16:34.160 Say

00:16:34.520 There

00:16:35.540 Are

00:16:35.860 Some

00:16:36.140 AI

00:16:36.520 Generated

00:16:37.420 Depeche

00:16:38.080 Mode

00:16:38.300 Songs

00:16:38.600 Out

00:16:38.840 There

00:16:39.040 As

00:16:39.180 I

00:16:39.340 Mentioned

00:16:39.900 A

00:16:40.120 While

00:16:40.480 Ago

00:16:40.840 And

00:16:41.300 The

00:16:42.040 Thing

00:16:42.500 About

00:16:42.860 Them

00:16:43.080 Is

00:16:43.200 That

00:16:43.300 They

00:16:43.420 Actually

00:16:43.740 Are

00:16:43.960 Pretty

00:16:44.280 Good

00:16:44.680 I

00:16:44.820 Mean

00:16:44.980 AI

00:16:45.380 Music

00:16:45.820 Has

00:16:46.220 Progressed

00:16:47.000 To

00:16:47.140 Some

00:16:47.320 Extend

00:16:47.740 And

00:16:47.920 You

00:16:48.440 Know

00:16:48.580 The

00:16:48.800 Programmer

00:16:49.280 Can

00:16:49.440 Put

00:16:49.560 In

00:16:49.680 These

00:16:49.820 Parameters

00:16:50.460 That

00:16:50.720 You

00:16:51.300 Know

00:16:51.420 That

00:16:51.560 Make

00:16:51.760 It

00:16:51.880 Interesting

00:16:52.300 And

00:16:53.540 You

00:16:57.800 There

00:16:57.980 Is

00:16:58.060 A

00:16:58.240 Kind

00:16:58.760 Of

00:16:58.860 A

00:16:59.040 Bluesy

00:17:00.160 Catchy

00:17:00.960 Phrase

00:17:01.660 And

00:17:01.880 This

00:17:02.080 And

00:17:02.200 That

00:17:02.480 And

00:17:02.700 But

00:17:04.100 But

00:17:04.400 It

00:17:04.520 Is

00:17:04.680 Hollow

00:17:04.980 I

00:17:05.240 Think

00:17:05.660 This

00:17:05.960 Album

00:17:06.480 If

00:17:06.820 I

00:17:06.960 Were

00:17:07.320 To

00:17:07.720 Offer

00:17:08.200 A

00:17:08.340 Criticals

00:17:08.780 Perspective

00:17:09.340 It

00:17:10.020 It's

00:17:10.260 Almost

00:17:10.520 Bordering

00:17:11.560 On

00:17:11.880 That

00:17:12.220 And

00:17:13.200 Everything

00:17:14.100 Works

00:17:14.780 But

00:17:15.260 Then

00:17:15.700 We

00:17:17.140 Also

00:17:17.580 Have

00:17:18.160 Seen

00:17:18.660 It

00:17:18.800 Before

00:17:19.200 Heard

00:17:19.600 It

00:17:19.740 Before

00:17:20.040 So

00:17:21.600 I

00:17:21.820 Just

00:17:22.000 I

00:17:22.220 Don't

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00:17:22.480 I

00:17:22.660 Feel

00:17:22.840 Like

00:17:23.060 If

00:17:23.240 We're

00:17:23.340 Going

00:17:23.540 To

00:17:23.780 Show

00:17:24.600 Our

00:17:24.800 Love

00:17:25.180 We

00:17:25.380 Also

00:17:25.620 Should

00:17:25.960 Bring

00:17:27.280 Some

00:17:27.540 Criticism

00:17:28.020 To

00:17:28.260 It

00:17:28.380 As

00:17:28.520 Well

00:17:28.760 It

00:17:29.060 It's

00:17:29.440 It's

00:17:29.740 On

00:17:30.040 That

00:17:30.360 Edge

00:17:31.020 Of

00:17:31.720 Being

00:17:33.220 Parody

00:17:34.800 Yeah

00:17:37.020 I

00:17:37.360 Of

00:17:37.800 Course

00:17:38.000 Yeah

00:17:38.480 Cosign

00:17:38.940 That

00:17:39.160 To

00:17:39.460 I

00:17:40.400 Think

00:17:40.740 This

00:17:43.780 Album

00:17:44.140 Like

00:17:44.520 It

00:17:44.960 Doesn't

00:17:45.280 Require

00:17:46.040 A

00:17:46.740 Lot

00:17:47.000 Of

00:17:47.340 Listens

00:17:48.040 That's

00:17:48.220 Why

00:17:48.300 I

00:17:48.440 Said

00:17:48.600 It

00:17:48.700 Was

00:17:48.860 It's

00:17:49.340 Pretty

00:17:49.540 Accessible

00:17:50.280 It

00:17:50.740 The

00:17:51.380 Deeper

00:17:51.760 Tracks

00:17:52.160 Maybe

00:17:52.460 The

00:17:52.660 Second

00:17:52.940 Half

00:17:53.440 Of

00:17:54.300 The

00:17:54.440 Songs

00:17:54.760 Require

00:17:55.440 Like

00:17:55.760 You

00:17:56.720 Know

00:17:56.840 Some

00:17:57.020 More

00:17:57.220 Listens

00:17:57.660 To

00:17:58.120 Where

00:17:58.280 It's

00:17:58.440 Like

00:17:58.560 Fully

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00:17:59.500 I

00:17:59.740 Think

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00:18:01.580 2005

00:18:02.180 You

00:18:02.520 Said

00:18:02.660 You're

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00:18:02.960 Duke

00:18:03.320 So

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00:18:03.900 Would

00:18:04.000 Have

00:18:04.080 Been

00:18:04.220 In

00:18:04.580 Late

00:18:05.480 Elementary

00:18:05.940 School

00:18:06.460 And

00:18:07.400 Early

00:18:08.200 Middle

00:18:11.220 School

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00:18:13.060 Apologize

00:18:13.660 I

00:18:13.880 Just

00:18:14.180 I

00:18:14.480 Had

00:18:14.680 To

00:18:14.880 But

00:18:15.880 Like

00:18:16.240 Yeah

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00:18:17.420 I

00:18:17.640 Remember

00:18:18.000 That

00:18:18.340 Time

00:18:18.740 Though

00:18:18.920 For

00:18:19.140 Music

00:18:19.500 I

00:18:20.660 Didn't

00:18:20.940 You

00:18:21.100 Know

00:18:21.260 What

00:18:21.860 Did

00:18:21.960 I

00:18:22.120 Know

00:18:22.320 I

00:18:22.400 Was

00:18:22.500 Only

00:18:22.800 11

00:18:23.500 Years

00:18:23.740 Old

00:18:23.940 Or

00:18:24.080 Whatever

00:18:24.340 But

00:18:24.760 The

00:18:25.920 The

00:18:26.920 Music

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00:18:27.700 Like

00:18:28.480 A lot

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00:18:29.200 Emo

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00:18:30.760 It

00:18:30.940 Was

00:18:31.060 Just

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00:18:32.100 Shit

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00:18:33.880 No

00:18:34.060 It

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00:18:34.560 Just

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00:18:36.000 Taking

00:18:36.280 Back

00:18:36.580 Sunday

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00:18:37.020 Fall Out

00:18:37.780 Boy

00:18:38.040 And

00:18:38.220 All

00:18:38.540 These

00:18:38.800 Emo

00:18:39.460 Whiny

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00:18:40.720 I

00:18:41.580 Am

00:18:41.780 I'm

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00:18:42.120 Just

00:18:42.280 Saying

00:18:42.500 This

00:18:42.840 But

00:18:43.820 I

00:18:44.020 Just

00:18:44.220 Did

00:18:44.420 Not

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00:18:45.380 At

00:18:45.940 All

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00:18:46.440 It

00:18:46.600 Was

00:18:46.760 Just

00:18:47.080 Yeah

00:18:48.220 Just

00:18:48.440 Really

00:18:48.740 Gay

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00:18:50.040 Yeah

00:18:50.360 You

00:18:54.760 And

00:18:55.880 I

00:18:56.600 Can

00:18:56.740 See

00:18:56.940 Why

00:18:57.200 It

00:18:57.420 You know

00:18:57.800 Went

00:18:58.000 Number

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00:18:59.120 United

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00:18:59.900 Cracked the top

00:19:01.940 Ten in the

00:19:02.480 UK and

00:19:03.100 Was number

00:19:03.520 One in a

00:19:04.260 Bunch of

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00:19:05.240 Like

00:19:05.540 Because

00:19:05.940 It's

00:19:06.320 Not

00:19:06.480 Really

00:19:06.680 Because

00:19:06.860 This

00:19:07.040 Album

00:19:07.280 Was

00:19:07.500 So

00:19:07.960 Great

00:19:08.560 It

00:19:08.980 Is

00:19:09.280 Good

00:19:09.600 It's

00:19:09.940 It's

00:19:10.140 A good

00:19:10.360 Depeche

00:19:10.700 Mode

00:19:10.900 Album

00:19:11.180 I'd

00:19:11.680 Probably

00:19:11.880 Put

00:19:12.120 It

00:19:12.300 Near

00:19:12.740 The

00:19:13.000 Upper

00:19:13.620 Bottom

00:19:14.180 Third

00:19:14.560 Of

00:19:14.780 Their

00:19:14.980 Fifteen

00:19:15.440 Albums

00:19:16.080 But

00:19:17.340 Yeah

00:19:18.740 The music

00:19:19.340 At the

00:19:19.620 Time

00:19:19.840 Was

00:19:20.000 Just

00:19:20.240 Shit

00:19:20.900 And

00:19:21.560 I

00:19:21.680 Do

00:19:21.820 Agree

00:19:22.080 With

00:19:22.280 You

00:19:22.500 Also

00:19:23.100 About

00:19:23.740 Hillier

00:19:24.760 This

00:19:25.400 Is

00:19:25.620 His

00:19:25.900 Best

00:19:26.160 Album

00:19:26.540 With

00:19:27.040 Depeche

00:19:27.600 Mode

00:19:27.860 It

00:19:28.980 Is

00:19:29.340 It's

00:19:30.360 Close

00:19:30.580 To

00:19:30.780 Synth

00:19:31.020 Rock

00:19:31.400 Enough

00:19:31.820 I'll

00:19:32.040 Call

00:19:32.200 I'll

00:19:32.380 Call

00:19:32.500 It

00:19:32.620 Synth

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00:19:33.220 I

00:19:33.380 Guess

00:19:33.660 All

00:19:34.440 Three

00:19:34.680 Of

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00:19:35.900 Them

00:19:36.060 The

00:19:36.300 Hillier

00:19:36.820 Trilogy

00:19:37.340 But

00:19:37.920 Yeah

00:19:38.200 This

00:19:38.620 Is

00:19:38.940 It's

00:19:39.940 Emotional

00:19:40.320 Album

00:19:40.680 It's

00:19:41.340 Yeah

00:19:43.040 It's

00:19:43.540 But

00:19:43.920 It's

00:19:44.080 Got

00:19:44.260 More

00:19:44.560 Maturity

00:19:44.980 Now

00:19:45.300 I

00:19:45.480 Think

00:19:45.640 That's

00:19:45.880 The

00:19:46.040 New

00:19:46.380 Theme

00:19:46.940 Especially

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00:19:48.000 Song

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00:19:48.560 Precious

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00:19:51.440 And

00:19:55.840 Fragile

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00:19:57.720 Need

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00:20:00.340 Handling

00:20:01.800 My

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00:20:05.480 We

00:20:05.760 Done

00:20:06.300 To

00:20:06.820 You

00:20:07.600 We

00:20:13.200 Always

00:20:14.040 Tried

00:20:14.560 To

00:20:14.900 Share

00:20:15.580 The

00:20:17.880 Tenderest

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00:20:19.520 Care

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00:20:22.500 Look

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00:20:24.160 Put

00:20:24.660 You

00:20:25.080 Through

00:20:25.900 Things

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00:20:33.120 Things

00:20:34.080 Get

00:20:34.560 Broken

00:20:35.160 I

00:20:36.080 Thought

00:20:36.600 We

00:20:36.900 Manage

00:20:37.660 But

00:20:38.100 Words

00:20:38.580 Left

00:20:38.940 Unspoken

00:20:39.860 Left

00:20:40.840 Us

00:20:41.280 So

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00:20:42.120 There

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00:20:43.560 A

00:20:43.920 Little

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00:20:46.440 Yeah

00:20:52.400 It's

00:20:52.900 An

00:20:53.020 Adult

00:20:53.340 Song

00:20:53.860 I

00:20:54.320 Think

00:20:54.740 I

00:20:54.880 Mentioned

00:20:55.240 This

00:20:55.420 Even

00:20:55.660 On

00:20:55.860 The

00:20:56.080 Memento

00:20:58.160 Mori

00:20:58.620 But

00:20:59.100 It

00:20:59.780 Is

00:21:00.120 A

00:21:00.640 Song

00:21:01.120 About

00:21:01.420 Divorce

00:21:02.160 And

00:21:02.620 Taking

00:21:03.180 Care

00:21:03.560 Of

00:21:03.700 His

00:21:03.840 Child

00:21:04.320 Precious

00:21:05.720 And

00:21:05.860 Fragile

00:21:06.200 Things

00:21:06.560 Need

00:21:06.900 Special

00:21:07.240 Handling

00:21:07.740 My

00:21:08.000 God

00:21:08.320 What

00:21:08.500 Have

00:21:08.660 We

00:21:08.780 Done

00:21:09.040 To

00:21:09.260 You

00:21:09.560 So

00:21:09.800 It's

00:21:09.960 It's

00:21:10.480 Showing

00:21:10.860 Concern

00:21:11.560 And

00:21:11.780 Guilt

00:21:12.200 We

00:21:13.680 Always

00:21:13.920 Tried

00:21:14.160 To

00:21:14.300 Share

00:21:14.720 The

00:21:14.980 Tender

00:21:15.300 Tender

00:21:15.880 Tenderest

00:21:17.420 Of

00:21:17.640 Care

00:21:18.000 Now

00:21:18.640 Look

00:21:18.860 What

00:21:19.020 We

00:21:19.180 Have

00:21:19.400 Put

00:21:19.660 You

00:21:19.860 Through

00:21:20.220 Things

00:21:20.660 Get

00:21:20.880 Damaged

00:21:21.460 Things

00:21:21.720 Get

00:21:21.920 Broken

00:21:22.260 I

00:21:22.480 Thought

00:21:22.660 We'd

00:21:22.900 Manage

00:21:23.360 But

00:21:23.560 Words

00:21:23.860 Left

00:21:24.120 Unspoken

00:21:24.660 Left

00:21:24.900 So

00:21:25.200 Brittle

00:21:25.580 There

00:21:26.260 Was

00:21:26.380 So

00:21:26.520 Little

00:21:26.860 Left

00:21:27.180 To

00:21:27.360 Give

00:21:27.720 Angels

00:21:29.000 With

00:21:34.320 In

00:21:35.700 Many

00:21:35.900 Ways

00:21:36.180 Which

00:21:36.380 Is

00:21:36.500 Something

00:21:36.740 You

00:21:36.960 Wouldn't

00:21:37.360 At

00:21:37.620 All

00:21:37.960 Expect

00:21:38.540 From

00:21:38.800 Depeche

00:21:39.240 Mode

00:21:39.620 But

00:21:41.160 Then

00:21:41.460 It's

00:21:41.840 Very

00:21:43.260 Authentic

00:21:45.020 To

00:21:45.420 The

00:21:45.620 Fact

00:21:46.000 That

00:21:46.440 They're

00:21:48.260 In

00:21:48.460 Their

00:21:48.620 Late

00:21:49.120 Forties

00:21:49.620 Are

00:21:49.760 Pushing

00:21:50.080 Fifty

00:21:50.460 At

00:21:50.680 This

00:21:51.280 Point

00:21:51.500 So

00:21:51.780 It's

00:21:52.200 You

00:21:52.560 Know

00:21:52.720 It

00:21:52.960 Makes

00:21:53.580 A

00:21:53.780 Lot

00:21:53.940 Of

00:21:54.080 Sense

00:21:54.460 It's

00:21:55.080 True

00:21:55.280 To

00:21:55.420 Themselves

00:21:55.960 And

00:21:56.740 It

00:21:57.200 You

00:21:57.880 Know

00:21:58.100 I

00:21:58.560 Forgot

00:21:59.200 If

00:21:59.360 They

00:21:59.480 Perform

00:22:00.040 This

00:22:00.280 Or

00:22:00.420 Not

00:22:00.780 At

00:22:01.660 The

00:22:01.780 Last

00:22:02.160 On

00:22:03.220 The

00:22:03.340 Tour

00:22:03.880 I'm

00:22:04.080 Sure

00:22:04.200 They

00:22:04.320 Performed

00:22:04.740 It

00:22:04.800 In

00:22:04.920 Some

00:22:05.220 Capacity

00:22:06.020 But

00:22:06.400 It's

00:22:08.380 It's

00:22:08.640 An

00:22:08.740 Anthem

00:22:09.140 Precious

00:22:10.720 When

00:22:11.600 I

00:22:11.700 Was

00:22:11.840 In

00:22:12.000 Chicago

00:22:12.360 And

00:22:12.580 Detroit

00:22:13.000 I

00:22:13.460 Know

00:22:13.720 They

00:22:13.920 Did

00:22:14.160 Chicago

00:22:14.860 Okay

00:22:15.640 I

00:22:15.980 Think

00:22:16.160 They

00:22:16.320 Did

00:22:16.560 As

00:22:16.720 Well

00:22:16.860 When

00:22:16.980 I

00:22:17.120 Saw

00:22:17.380 Them

00:22:17.580 In

00:22:17.780 Vegas

00:22:18.160 But

00:22:18.440 Yeah

00:22:19.100 It's

00:22:19.640 A

00:22:19.740 Big

00:22:19.900 Anthem

00:22:20.560 Number

00:22:21.260 I

00:22:21.560 Mean

00:22:21.680 It's

00:22:21.860 Right

00:22:22.160 Up

00:22:22.320 There

00:22:22.520 With

00:22:22.740 Enjoy

00:22:23.140 The

00:22:23.340 Silence

00:22:23.780 And

00:22:23.960 Other

00:22:24.140 Things

00:22:24.460 I

00:22:24.620 Mean

00:22:24.700 It

00:22:24.980 Is

00:22:25.460 Rocking

00:22:26.860 It's

00:22:28.380 You

00:22:29.000 Know

00:22:29.240 Etc

00:22:29.660 Everyone

00:22:30.100 Singing

00:22:30.520 Along

00:22:31.120 It's

00:22:31.960 Hugely

00:22:33.000 Catchy

00:22:33.700 Epic

00:22:34.420 They

00:22:35.840 They

00:22:36.780 Did

00:22:37.100 That

00:22:37.460 On

00:22:37.840 This

00:22:38.160 Album

00:22:38.560 And

00:22:38.760 I'm

00:22:38.880 Not

00:22:39.080 Sure

00:22:39.280 They

00:22:39.500 They

00:22:39.940 Don't

00:22:40.700 Have

00:22:41.000 Anything

00:22:41.240 Like

00:22:41.580 That

00:22:41.860 On

00:22:42.060 Delta

00:22:42.360 Machine

00:22:42.840 Or

00:22:43.140 Sounds

00:22:43.420 Of

00:22:43.540 The

00:22:43.640 Universe

00:22:44.080 Or

00:22:46.620 Really

00:22:46.920 Momentum

00:22:47.440 War

00:22:47.620 I

00:22:47.740 Mean

00:22:47.840 Maybe

00:22:48.040 A

00:22:48.240 Little

00:22:48.440 Bit

00:22:48.780 But

00:22:49.840 Nothing

00:22:50.240 Quite

00:22:50.760 Like

00:22:51.060 This

00:22:51.400 Which

00:22:51.620 Is

00:22:51.760 Just

00:22:51.920 This

00:22:52.240 You

00:22:52.560 Know

00:22:52.680 Classic

00:22:53.560 Depeche

00:22:54.540 Mode

00:22:54.740 Number

00:22:55.080 And

00:22:55.320 It's

00:22:55.520 It's

00:22:55.820 About

00:22:56.220 Divorce

00:22:56.960 Which

00:22:57.160 Is

00:22:57.260 A

00:22:57.380 Kind

00:22:57.660 Of

00:22:57.780 Pain

00:22:58.180 Although

00:22:58.540 Maybe

00:22:59.340 A Less

00:22:59.780 Existential

00:23:00.660 Pain

00:23:01.120 Or

00:23:01.780 Suffering

00:23:02.420 Or

00:23:02.740 Nihilism

00:23:03.320 That

00:23:03.480 They've

00:23:03.660 Sung

00:23:03.840 About

00:23:04.100 In

00:23:04.300 The

00:23:04.400 Past

00:23:04.800 But

00:23:05.160 They

00:23:06.620 Really

00:23:07.660 Nailed

00:23:08.240 That

00:23:08.580 Even

00:23:10.120 Like

00:23:10.380 The

00:23:10.540 Next

00:23:10.840 Song

00:23:11.100 That

00:23:11.280 Follows

00:23:11.700 That

00:23:12.060 Macro

00:23:13.060 See

00:23:14.800 The

00:23:14.960 Micro

00:23:15.300 Cosm

00:23:15.900 And

00:23:16.040 Macro

00:23:16.460 Vision

00:23:16.820 Our

00:23:17.380 Bodies

00:23:17.760 Moving

00:23:18.180 With

00:23:18.420 Pure

00:23:18.740 Precision

00:23:19.380 One

00:23:21.080 Universal

00:23:21.740 Celebration

00:23:22.900 One

00:23:23.300 Evolution

00:23:23.960 One

00:23:24.600 Creation

00:23:25.280 It's

00:23:25.860 That

00:23:26.100 Oneness

00:23:27.300 And

00:23:27.700 Also

00:23:27.980 Blending

00:23:28.640 One

00:23:29.240 Evolution

00:23:29.840 And

00:23:30.140 One

00:23:30.320 Creation

00:23:30.840 Kind

00:23:31.100 Of

00:23:31.200 Blending

00:23:31.680 Christianity

00:23:32.900 Darwinism

00:23:34.440 The

00:23:34.820 Universe

00:23:35.300 Into

00:23:35.560 One

00:23:36.000 You

00:23:37.240 Know

00:23:37.420 Is

00:23:37.680 There

00:23:37.820 A

00:23:37.980 Little

00:23:38.120 Bit

00:23:38.400 Of

00:23:38.600 Marianne

00:23:39.340 Williamson

00:23:39.800 Going

00:23:40.060 On

00:23:40.280 Here

00:23:40.520 Correct

00:23:41.240 Sure

00:23:42.020 Is

00:23:42.760 It

00:23:42.900 A

00:23:43.160 Cool

00:23:43.520 Song

00:23:44.080 Though

00:23:44.340 Do

00:23:44.540 They

00:23:44.700 Do

00:23:45.020 They

00:23:45.140 Get

00:23:45.340 Away

00:23:45.540 With

00:23:45.740 It

00:23:45.880 I

00:23:46.040 Would

00:23:46.180 Say

00:23:46.380 Yes

00:23:46.780 Yeah

00:23:48.420 That

00:23:48.980 Song

00:23:49.280 Actually

00:23:49.620 Is

00:23:49.820 Really

00:23:50.140 Interesting

00:23:50.740 I

00:23:51.660 Take

00:23:52.080 The

00:23:52.300 Lyrics

00:23:52.660 As

00:23:52.900 Like

00:23:53.180 I

00:23:54.080 Don't

00:23:54.360 Know

00:23:54.500 At

00:23:54.700 First

00:23:55.280 I

00:23:56.040 Was

00:23:56.220 Like

00:23:56.540 Is

00:23:56.760 It

00:23:56.880 About

00:23:57.220 Like

00:23:57.500 An

00:23:57.880 Ecstasy

00:23:58.580 Or

00:23:58.880 Of

00:23:59.340 Like

00:23:59.520 Sex

00:23:59.980 Or

00:24:00.200 Religious

00:24:00.840 Experience

00:24:01.420 Which

00:24:01.960 Would

00:24:02.080 Be

00:24:02.340 Part

00:24:02.980 For

00:24:03.100 The

00:24:03.200 Course

00:24:03.400 For

00:24:03.560 Martin

00:24:03.980 Like

00:24:04.280 Overflowing

00:24:06.300 Senses

00:24:07.060 God

00:24:08.240 Breathing

00:24:08.780 Through

00:24:09.100 Me

00:24:09.540 And

00:24:10.040 Then

00:24:10.160 With

00:24:10.340 The

00:24:10.580 Chorus

00:24:11.580 The

00:24:11.820 See

00:24:12.000 The

00:24:12.140 Microcosm

00:24:12.840 And

00:24:12.940 The

00:24:13.080 Macro

00:24:13.460 Vision

00:24:13.720 I

00:24:14.520 Think

00:24:14.940 That's

00:24:15.340 Like

00:24:15.720 X

00:24:16.680 Personal

00:24:17.120 Event

00:24:17.400 Happens

00:24:17.820 To

00:24:17.980 You

00:24:18.160 It

00:24:18.360 May

00:24:18.560 Be

00:24:18.680 For

00:24:18.840 A

00:24:19.100 Greater

00:24:19.460 God

00:24:19.960 Like

00:24:20.240 Purpose

00:24:20.760 Like

00:24:21.080 Whatever

00:24:21.440 Little

00:24:21.780 Thing

00:24:22.320 Happens

00:24:22.720 In

00:24:22.920 Your

00:24:23.080 Micro

00:24:23.460 Cosm

00:24:24.040 Is

00:24:24.280 For

00:24:24.460 A

00:24:24.640 Greater

00:24:24.960 You

00:24:25.980 Know

00:24:26.200 Macro

00:24:26.860 Vision

00:24:27.260 In

00:24:27.680 God's

00:24:28.140 Eyes

00:24:28.320 Or

00:24:28.440 Something

00:24:28.640 Like

00:24:28.860 That

00:24:29.240 Overflowing

00:24:39.720 Senses

00:24:41.120 Heightened

00:24:44.840 Awareness

00:24:48.020 I

00:24:49.300 Hear

00:24:49.820 My

00:24:50.360 Blood

00:24:50.720 Flow

00:24:51.740 I

00:24:54.560 Feel

00:24:55.200 It's

00:24:55.760 Caress

00:24:56.760 Whispering

00:25:00.780 Cosmos

00:25:02.300 Talking

00:25:05.500 Right

00:25:06.240 To

00:25:06.640 Me

00:25:08.300 Unlimited

00:25:11.180 Endless

00:25:13.300 God

00:25:15.940 Breathing

00:25:16.740 Through

00:25:17.200 Me

00:25:18.300 See

00:25:20.580 The

00:25:20.780 Micro

00:25:21.200 Cosm

00:25:22.300 In

00:25:23.300 Micro

00:25:23.840 Vision

00:25:24.500 Our

00:25:25.980 Body

00:25:26.340 Is

00:25:26.540 Moving

00:25:27.140 With

00:25:28.600 Pure

00:25:29.020 Precision

00:25:29.680 One

00:25:31.260 Universal

00:25:32.280 Celebration

00:25:35.260 One

00:25:36.640 Evolution

00:25:37.600 One

00:25:39.580 Creation

00:25:40.540 I have a

00:25:43.960 quick little

00:25:44.560 bit that I

00:25:46.340 wanted to

00:25:46.780 share about

00:25:48.140 this song and

00:25:49.340 about the

00:25:50.060 band in

00:25:50.420 general.

00:25:51.500 So in

00:25:52.000 2016

00:25:52.900 Depeche Mode's

00:25:53.900 discography was

00:25:54.840 found to have

00:25:55.560 the most

00:25:55.880 sophisticated

00:25:56.360 lyrics per

00:25:57.240 song of

00:25:58.120 all best

00:25:58.820 selling music

00:25:59.460 acts of

00:26:00.240 the UK on

00:26:01.060 average in

00:26:01.620 a study by

00:26:02.260 the Mirror.

00:26:03.400 The determination

00:26:03.900 was made by

00:26:04.840 analyzing the

00:26:05.580 lyrics of

00:26:06.160 more than

00:26:06.540 6,000 UK

00:26:07.760 musical groups

00:26:08.800 using the

00:26:09.620 Coleman

00:26:09.920 Lau and

00:26:11.340 Smog

00:26:12.040 Indexes

00:26:12.820 which are

00:26:13.360 used to

00:26:13.840 determine the

00:26:14.380 difficulty of

00:26:15.200 school textbooks.

00:26:16.780 An average

00:26:17.120 was taken of

00:26:17.840 each song

00:26:18.380 score in

00:26:18.920 both these

00:26:19.380 tests with

00:26:20.460 the artist's

00:26:21.080 final score

00:26:21.800 determined by

00:26:22.520 calculating the

00:26:23.300 average score

00:26:23.900 of each

00:26:24.340 artist's

00:26:24.960 full discography.

00:26:26.400 Depeche Mode's

00:26:27.020 catalog was

00:26:27.580 found to be

00:26:27.980 the most

00:26:28.440 lyrically

00:26:28.920 sophisticated

00:26:29.480 requiring 10.3

00:26:31.440 years of

00:26:31.860 education to

00:26:32.460 understand.

00:26:33.400 Macro's lyrics

00:26:34.160 were found to

00:26:34.980 be the group's

00:26:35.620 most challenging.

00:26:37.520 Interesting.

00:26:39.800 Yeah, I mean

00:26:40.820 macro vision and

00:26:41.960 microcosm, even

00:26:43.040 those are, you

00:26:44.160 know, I don't

00:26:45.440 know, undergraduate

00:26:46.220 words.

00:26:48.080 Sure.

00:26:48.900 Yeah, I don't

00:26:50.040 really know why

00:26:50.680 they pick that

00:26:51.400 one.

00:26:51.560 Yeah, I don't

00:26:52.340 disagree with

00:26:53.120 this study.

00:26:53.960 I think that's

00:26:55.080 fairly interesting.

00:26:57.040 You know, are

00:26:57.360 you able to

00:26:58.040 have multi

00:26:58.760 layers to

00:26:59.840 what you're

00:27:00.180 saying?

00:27:01.680 You know, are

00:27:02.820 you able to

00:27:03.400 use irony?

00:27:04.580 Are you able to

00:27:05.280 suggest things

00:27:06.140 without saying

00:27:06.760 them?

00:27:07.020 I mean, I

00:27:07.360 think that's

00:27:07.900 probably the

00:27:08.660 essence of

00:27:09.680 more intelligent

00:27:10.520 writing.

00:27:12.420 And you're

00:27:13.140 not just

00:27:13.540 singing about,

00:27:14.500 you know,

00:27:15.460 lovey dove.

00:27:17.100 Oh, but

00:27:19.420 yes, or

00:27:21.420 Taylor Swift.

00:27:23.360 Certainly

00:27:23.880 you're in the

00:27:25.060 bleachers are

00:27:26.220 your cheer

00:27:27.900 captain.

00:27:28.960 I'm in the

00:27:29.680 bleachers.

00:27:30.560 Yeah, there's

00:27:31.140 no interpretation

00:27:32.300 to that song.

00:27:33.300 Like you don't

00:27:33.880 interpret that

00:27:34.760 song because

00:27:35.900 it's just there.

00:27:36.760 You know, there's

00:27:37.280 nothing.

00:27:37.800 It's it's like

00:27:38.980 a I don't

00:27:40.380 know, like

00:27:40.780 a eating a

00:27:42.300 candy bar or

00:27:43.100 something like

00:27:43.480 there's no

00:27:43.940 there's no

00:27:44.700 like, you

00:27:45.580 know, wow,

00:27:46.200 layers of

00:27:46.760 flavor.

00:27:47.380 So it's

00:27:47.660 like, no,

00:27:48.100 it's chocolate.

00:27:49.040 You know,

00:27:49.420 it's yeah,

00:27:50.020 it's just

00:27:50.360 there.

00:27:51.840 And I

00:27:52.560 think that

00:27:52.960 actually does

00:27:53.640 categorize a

00:27:55.600 lot of pop

00:27:56.140 music, whereas

00:27:57.220 you know,

00:27:58.740 ambiguity and

00:28:00.480 suggestion that

00:28:01.500 that's something

00:28:02.100 that's very

00:28:02.520 different.

00:28:03.160 I almost kind

00:28:03.680 of do imagine

00:28:04.500 like seeing,

00:28:05.860 you know, like

00:28:06.080 looking at an

00:28:06.700 atom and then

00:28:08.120 seeing that that

00:28:09.240 in itself is

00:28:10.160 kind of its own

00:28:10.700 universe.

00:28:12.400 Sure.

00:28:13.120 You know,

00:28:13.360 again, this is

00:28:14.160 like stuff that

00:28:15.100 graduate students

00:28:16.340 talk about

00:28:16.940 while high.

00:28:17.760 So, I

00:28:18.040 mean, it's

00:28:18.820 you know, I

00:28:19.480 we should not

00:28:20.960 get to

00:28:22.040 woo here, but

00:28:23.000 regardless, it

00:28:25.740 reminds me of

00:28:26.240 that scene in

00:28:27.700 Animal House

00:28:28.700 when he's like,

00:28:29.240 so you're

00:28:29.680 saying we

00:28:30.760 could be

00:28:31.460 that means that

00:28:33.620 our whole solar

00:28:36.120 system could be

00:28:38.020 like one tiny

00:28:39.980 atom in the

00:28:40.940 fingernail of some

00:28:42.360 other giant

00:28:43.180 being.

00:28:45.200 Oh, this is too

00:28:46.580 much.

00:28:47.780 That means

00:28:48.600 that one tiny

00:28:53.500 atom in my

00:28:54.340 fingernail could

00:28:55.460 be one little

00:28:57.040 tiny

00:28:58.360 universe.

00:29:02.240 Could I buy

00:29:07.000 some pot

00:29:07.580 from you?

00:29:09.060 I mean, again,

00:29:10.080 it's it's kind

00:29:10.840 of, you know,

00:29:11.380 I don't want to

00:29:12.880 bash it too

00:29:13.440 hard because it

00:29:14.480 is kind of

00:29:14.980 interesting, but

00:29:15.720 it is also

00:29:18.020 kind of fake

00:29:19.800 as well.

00:29:20.360 So I

00:29:21.680 don't know.

00:29:22.080 I just like the

00:29:22.820 song.

00:29:23.260 they get away

00:29:25.060 with a little

00:29:25.800 bit of Marianne

00:29:26.480 Williamson in

00:29:28.360 that and it's

00:29:29.800 cool.

00:29:30.240 It shows people

00:29:31.040 trying to think

00:29:32.280 about something.

00:29:33.500 You know, I

00:29:33.640 mean, it's like

00:29:34.300 one thing that I

00:29:35.020 really liked

00:29:35.880 about what I

00:29:38.160 like about

00:29:39.320 you too and

00:29:41.100 what I liked

00:29:42.220 about seeing

00:29:43.340 you too live

00:29:44.160 at the sphere

00:29:44.740 in Vegas.

00:29:45.280 I just kind of

00:29:45.940 did a twofer

00:29:46.600 while I was

00:29:47.080 down there for

00:29:47.640 a very short

00:29:48.200 period of time

00:29:48.760 is, you know,

00:29:51.040 whatever you want

00:29:51.620 to say about

00:29:52.140 you too.

00:29:52.480 It's, you

00:29:52.900 know, it's a

00:29:53.260 guitar band.

00:29:54.400 It's, it's

00:29:54.840 pretentious.

00:29:56.020 It's the

00:29:56.280 favorite act

00:29:57.700 of the World

00:29:58.860 Economic Forum,

00:30:00.100 you know, blah,

00:30:00.760 blah, blah.

00:30:01.540 But they're,

00:30:02.800 they're going

00:30:03.380 for something.

00:30:04.180 They're, they're

00:30:04.480 not just saying

00:30:05.820 I want your

00:30:06.820 loving or

00:30:07.560 something.

00:30:07.980 They, they

00:30:08.640 are trying

00:30:10.100 to imagine

00:30:11.020 a biblical

00:30:12.800 music and,

00:30:14.220 you know,

00:30:14.920 at the, their,

00:30:15.560 their last song

00:30:16.640 was actually one,

00:30:17.720 not even really

00:30:18.740 my favorite song

00:30:19.640 from you too,

00:30:20.220 but it was a

00:30:21.160 beautiful day.

00:30:21.980 Which is a

00:30:23.160 good song

00:30:23.680 from the, I

00:30:24.380 don't know,

00:30:24.560 either late

00:30:25.520 nineties, early

00:30:26.100 two thousand.

00:30:26.600 It's a good

00:30:26.940 song, but it's

00:30:28.960 not really a

00:30:29.380 classic, but they,

00:30:30.720 they did it in

00:30:31.780 this way of there

00:30:32.680 was this flood

00:30:33.700 that encapsulates

00:30:35.220 the sphere.

00:30:35.860 and then finally

00:30:36.860 the animals come

00:30:37.800 out.

00:30:37.980 And it's kind of

00:30:38.360 like after the

00:30:39.040 flood and Adam

00:30:39.860 and Eve are

00:30:40.360 mentioned in the

00:30:40.920 song and the

00:30:41.480 flood is mentioned

00:30:42.380 the biblical

00:30:43.480 flood that is.

00:30:44.800 And so it's an

00:30:45.780 attempt, a

00:30:47.600 genuine attempt

00:30:49.140 to capture the

00:30:51.120 spirit of

00:30:52.540 something religious.

00:30:54.400 And that I

00:30:56.920 think in itself

00:30:58.140 is just much

00:30:59.100 deeper than

00:31:00.160 saying like,

00:31:00.820 you're an

00:31:01.440 angel, which

00:31:02.580 basically just

00:31:03.220 means you're

00:31:03.780 hot or maybe

00:31:05.760 also sweet.

00:31:07.200 Whenever someone

00:31:08.120 says you're an

00:31:08.840 angel, that's

00:31:10.380 what they mean.

00:31:11.160 They don't need

00:31:11.760 to evoke an

00:31:13.040 angel from the

00:31:13.800 Bible to express

00:31:15.140 the sentiment.

00:31:15.780 But you, too,

00:31:16.920 on the other

00:31:17.300 hand, are

00:31:18.740 like genuinely

00:31:20.720 attempting to

00:31:22.280 capture something

00:31:23.560 religious.

00:31:25.140 Now, whether

00:31:25.780 they're successful

00:31:26.480 or not is up to

00:31:27.520 you, but I

00:31:29.260 admire the

00:31:29.800 attempt.

00:31:30.240 I admire the

00:31:30.680 attempt.

00:31:45.780 I guess that's

00:31:48.240 probably why I

00:31:49.320 like Depeche

00:31:50.080 Mode.

00:31:50.400 I love Depeche

00:31:51.100 Mode as well.

00:31:52.060 And that's

00:31:52.780 probably why they

00:31:53.560 won that contest,

00:31:54.700 which seems to

00:31:55.480 be, you know,

00:31:57.260 somewhat accurate

00:31:58.000 in terms of

00:32:00.140 reading level.

00:32:01.240 Are you able to

00:32:02.140 think through

00:32:03.040 what these lyrics

00:32:05.060 are saying or

00:32:06.000 do you just kind

00:32:06.960 of hear them

00:32:08.220 and get the

00:32:08.680 message, you

00:32:09.380 know, so to

00:32:09.720 speak?

00:32:09.980 I think they

00:32:10.720 are more

00:32:11.320 sophisticated.

00:32:13.320 Definitely.

00:32:14.000 I was surprised

00:32:14.660 though, on the

00:32:15.460 low end, they

00:32:17.340 included the

00:32:18.020 Smiths and

00:32:19.940 I don't, I

00:32:21.540 mean, I've

00:32:21.880 never really

00:32:22.480 Yeah.

00:32:24.280 So, and

00:32:25.060 they, there's

00:32:25.680 just like stuff

00:32:26.400 missing, like

00:32:27.120 whatever you

00:32:28.080 want to say

00:32:28.420 about Sting

00:32:29.080 or the

00:32:29.480 police, like

00:32:30.140 he does have

00:32:31.120 interesting lyrics

00:32:32.200 and he's not

00:32:33.120 even included

00:32:33.840 on the 10

00:32:35.440 least sophisticated

00:32:36.220 or 10 most.

00:32:37.380 And if a

00:32:38.060 double-decker

00:32:39.120 bus killed

00:32:40.440 the both of

00:32:41.540 us.

00:32:42.360 Right.

00:32:43.060 Yeah, like

00:32:43.520 that's highly

00:32:44.900 ironic.

00:32:45.580 And if a

00:32:50.920 double-decker

00:32:52.120 bus crashes

00:32:55.000 into arms, to

00:32:58.640 die by your

00:32:59.920 side is such a

00:33:01.560 heavenly way to

00:33:02.860 die.

00:33:04.360 And if a

00:33:05.080 10-ton truck

00:33:07.080 kills the

00:33:09.340 both of us, to

00:33:12.780 die by your

00:33:14.020 side, when

00:33:15.300 die by your

00:33:16.800 side, you

00:33:17.740 know, but

00:33:18.000 yeah, it's

00:33:18.620 simple language,

00:33:19.560 but that's,

00:33:21.020 that's, it's

00:33:22.000 very funny and

00:33:24.300 very also kind

00:33:26.520 of genuine and

00:33:27.600 poignant in a

00:33:28.460 way.

00:33:28.920 To die by your

00:33:30.100 side, the

00:33:31.060 pleasure and the

00:33:31.760 honor would be

00:33:32.380 mine.

00:33:32.980 Or, you know,

00:33:33.360 it's very funny

00:33:34.840 and ironic and

00:33:35.760 self-deprecating and

00:33:36.980 nihilistic and

00:33:37.760 whatever.

00:33:38.180 But if you

00:33:39.540 don't get it, you

00:33:40.540 just don't get

00:33:41.180 it.

00:33:41.420 I think maybe

00:33:42.100 some AI bot

00:33:43.320 wouldn't understand

00:33:44.360 that that's a

00:33:45.960 deeply ironic

00:33:46.820 sentiment.

00:33:49.040 Yeah, yeah.

00:33:49.760 And just because

00:33:50.180 you use simple

00:33:50.820 words doesn't

00:33:51.600 mean that it's

00:33:52.680 like unsophisticated

00:33:53.860 or something.

00:33:54.640 Right.

00:33:55.500 Did you want

00:33:56.220 to talk about

00:33:57.820 John the

00:33:58.260 Revelator?

00:33:58.740 Because I feel

00:33:59.120 like there's a

00:33:59.620 lot there in

00:34:00.480 that song.

00:34:01.920 Yeah, sure.

00:34:02.860 You can go on

00:34:03.520 that one.

00:34:04.420 Sure.

00:34:05.400 So the first

00:34:06.780 version, as far

00:34:07.460 as I understand,

00:34:08.120 is from this

00:34:09.160 blues singer

00:34:10.760 guitarist, Blind

00:34:12.660 Willie Johnson.

00:34:14.640 And the first

00:34:16.580 version that comes

00:34:17.400 out is like

00:34:18.280 April 20th,

00:34:19.200 1930.

00:34:20.180 And it's him

00:34:21.340 and his wife

00:34:22.460 singing.

00:34:24.780 I don't even

00:34:25.200 know if he's

00:34:25.540 really singing.

00:34:26.240 He's almost

00:34:26.580 like screaming.

00:34:27.360 Who's that

00:34:28.920 running?

00:34:29.940 Who's that

00:34:32.780 running?

00:34:33.360 John the

00:34:38.040 Revelator,

00:34:39.140 something about

00:34:41.000 the seven

00:34:41.480 seals.

00:34:42.360 And it's just

00:34:42.660 like him,

00:34:43.860 a guitar,

00:34:44.500 and his

00:34:45.060 wife.

00:34:45.560 It's extremely

00:34:46.420 stripped down

00:34:47.260 and it's

00:34:49.340 not, the

00:34:50.300 chords are not

00:34:51.520 at all like

00:34:52.140 Martin's.

00:34:53.080 It's like

00:34:54.260 E to A

00:34:55.360 to B7

00:34:56.240 or whatever,

00:34:56.780 standard like

00:34:57.380 blues chords.

00:34:59.220 And it's,

00:35:01.340 yeah, it's

00:35:02.380 Martin's version

00:35:03.200 is like a

00:35:03.600 lot different.

00:35:04.260 It's like

00:35:05.140 critical of

00:35:06.780 St.

00:35:07.780 John and

00:35:08.880 calling him

00:35:09.720 like a

00:35:10.240 smooth operator

00:35:11.060 or con

00:35:11.720 man.

00:35:13.380 With a book

00:35:14.660 of lies,

00:35:15.300 all he ever

00:35:15.740 does is give

00:35:16.340 us pain.

00:35:17.420 He should bow

00:35:17.860 his head in

00:35:18.380 shame,

00:35:19.320 which is like

00:35:20.180 that attack

00:35:20.900 on the

00:35:22.440 more like

00:35:22.880 self-denying,

00:35:24.400 I don't

00:35:24.640 know,

00:35:24.800 like Pauline

00:35:25.820 maybe aspects

00:35:26.680 of Christianity

00:35:27.480 as opposed

00:35:28.800 to the

00:35:29.220 Christ-like,

00:35:30.240 you know,

00:35:31.340 nicer,

00:35:33.100 hippie version

00:35:33.740 of Christianity.

00:35:35.560 But,

00:35:36.320 yeah,

00:35:36.720 I think

00:35:37.100 both of

00:35:38.580 the

00:35:39.040 versions,

00:35:40.660 they're singing

00:35:41.280 about gods

00:35:42.800 that they want

00:35:43.540 to believe in.

00:35:44.640 Gods that will

00:35:45.120 either like

00:35:45.720 save them

00:35:46.440 or free

00:35:47.000 them in

00:35:48.700 the revelation

00:35:49.300 or just

00:35:51.520 a nice God.

00:35:53.040 I think

00:35:53.220 that's what

00:35:53.580 Martin's

00:35:54.120 basic like

00:35:54.800 take is.

00:35:56.000 And I think

00:35:56.340 he said as

00:35:56.920 much about

00:35:58.020 it.

00:35:59.260 And that's

00:35:59.540 kind of like

00:35:59.940 the same

00:36:00.380 God that

00:36:00.960 Bono has

00:36:01.680 said in

00:36:02.000 interviews

00:36:02.380 that he

00:36:02.880 believes in.

00:36:03.440 It's like,

00:36:04.060 I believe

00:36:04.600 in the

00:36:05.680 nice Jesus

00:36:06.340 basically.

00:36:08.080 Yeah.

00:36:09.900 I think

00:36:10.820 this is

00:36:11.220 worth going

00:36:12.460 into.

00:36:15.480 So,

00:36:16.920 yeah,

00:36:17.700 I agree

00:36:18.680 that it's

00:36:19.800 it's

00:36:21.020 very

00:36:21.520 there is

00:36:22.680 a certain

00:36:23.480 criticism

00:36:24.080 or irony

00:36:24.800 on this.

00:36:27.940 Take him

00:36:28.160 up to the

00:36:28.560 high,

00:36:29.380 take him,

00:36:29.900 put him

00:36:30.600 in an

00:36:30.860 elevator,

00:36:31.380 take him

00:36:31.660 up to the

00:36:32.060 highest high,

00:36:33.320 take him

00:36:33.900 to the

00:36:34.160 top where

00:36:34.860 the mountains

00:36:35.320 stop,

00:36:36.700 let him

00:36:37.500 tell his

00:36:38.080 book of

00:36:38.520 lies.

00:36:40.080 I mean,

00:36:40.460 that's pretty

00:36:40.960 strong.

00:36:41.960 John the

00:36:42.320 revelator is a

00:36:43.020 smooth operator.

00:36:43.800 It's time we

00:36:44.260 cut him down

00:36:44.940 to size,

00:36:45.860 take him

00:36:46.800 by the hand

00:36:47.560 and put him

00:36:48.120 on the

00:36:48.400 stand.

00:36:49.340 Let us

00:36:49.620 hear his

00:36:49.980 alibis.

00:36:51.520 By claiming

00:36:52.360 God is his

00:36:53.160 holy right,

00:36:53.960 he's stealing

00:36:54.660 a God

00:36:55.200 from the

00:36:55.660 Israelites,

00:36:56.560 stealing a

00:36:57.080 God from

00:36:57.420 the Muslims

00:36:57.980 too.

00:36:58.820 There is

00:36:59.140 only one

00:36:59.680 God through

00:37:00.280 and through.

00:37:00.720 John the

00:37:02.060 revelator,

00:37:02.940 put him

00:37:03.480 in an

00:37:04.000 elevator,

00:37:04.800 take him

00:37:05.300 up to

00:37:05.960 the

00:37:06.200 higher

00:37:06.660 side,

00:37:08.240 take him

00:37:09.000 up to

00:37:09.620 the top

00:37:10.200 where the

00:37:10.800 mountains

00:37:11.200 start,

00:37:12.440 let him

00:37:13.100 tell his

00:37:13.520 book of

00:37:14.140 lies.

00:37:16.080 John the

00:37:16.780 revelator,

00:37:17.760 he's a

00:37:18.140 smooth

00:37:18.620 operator,

00:37:19.640 it's time

00:37:20.240 we cut him

00:37:20.940 down to

00:37:21.620 size.

00:37:23.280 Take him

00:37:24.200 by the

00:37:24.680 hand,

00:37:25.320 put him

00:37:26.080 understand,

00:37:27.220 let us

00:37:27.880 see who's

00:37:28.400 halibis.

00:37:30.860 By claiming

00:37:31.480 God,

00:37:32.500 that is

00:37:32.960 all

00:37:33.440 you're

00:37:33.680 right,

00:37:34.560 he's stealing

00:37:35.140 a God

00:37:35.920 from the

00:37:36.680 Israelites,

00:37:38.260 stealing a

00:37:39.200 God from

00:37:40.120 the Muslims

00:37:40.700 too.

00:37:41.960 There is

00:37:42.660 only one

00:37:43.540 God through

00:37:44.300 and through.

00:37:45.840 Seven

00:37:46.200 lives

00:37:47.180 multiplied

00:37:47.900 by seven

00:37:48.960 multiplied

00:37:49.840 by seven

00:37:50.800 again.

00:37:53.040 Seven

00:37:53.580 angels,

00:37:55.120 seven

00:37:55.480 drunk

00:37:56.260 and

00:37:56.500 sent

00:37:56.740 him

00:37:56.960 home

00:37:57.420 on

00:37:57.680 the

00:37:57.880 morning

00:37:58.380 train.

00:38:00.420 Who's

00:38:00.940 that

00:38:01.200 shouting

00:38:01.900 John the

00:38:03.020 revelator

00:38:03.860 only

00:38:04.740 ever

00:38:05.200 gives

00:38:05.520 this

00:38:05.720 pain.

00:38:07.780 Who's

00:38:08.340 that

00:38:08.600 shouting

00:38:09.280 John the

00:38:10.400 revelator

00:38:11.240 he

00:38:11.820 should

00:38:12.160 bow

00:38:12.460 and

00:38:12.660 say

00:38:13.060 the

00:38:13.320 shame.

00:38:14.980 It

00:38:15.600 really

00:38:16.560 reminds

00:38:17.960 me of

00:38:18.500 you

00:38:18.740 too,

00:38:19.800 actually.

00:38:21.420 And

00:38:21.820 it's

00:38:23.500 it's

00:38:24.420 interesting

00:38:24.900 because

00:38:25.680 if we

00:38:27.840 look at

00:38:28.140 the lyrics

00:38:29.120 of

00:38:29.360 Sunday

00:38:29.760 Bloody

00:38:30.040 Sunday,

00:38:30.520 so it's

00:38:30.880 a really

00:38:32.180 familiar

00:38:32.620 song.

00:38:33.060 I can't

00:38:33.400 believe

00:38:33.680 the news

00:38:34.220 today.

00:38:35.100 I can't

00:38:35.540 close my

00:38:35.980 eyes and

00:38:36.480 make it

00:38:36.960 go away.

00:38:37.780 And

00:38:38.580 it's

00:38:38.720 all

00:38:38.860 this

00:38:39.160 please

00:38:41.480 and

00:38:42.000 cries

00:38:43.120 for this

00:38:44.760 event that

00:38:45.260 occurred while

00:38:46.040 Bono was

00:38:46.700 actually quite

00:38:47.220 young.

00:38:48.460 There was

00:38:48.660 a

00:38:48.900 massacre

00:38:49.760 of

00:38:50.500 British

00:38:52.500 soldiers

00:38:53.420 against

00:38:54.160 Irish.

00:38:56.220 But

00:38:56.520 this

00:38:57.320 final

00:38:58.140 stanza,

00:38:59.100 sometimes

00:38:59.360 people

00:39:00.160 miss it.

00:39:01.800 The real

00:39:02.660 battle's

00:39:03.260 just begun.

00:39:04.160 They're

00:39:04.700 chanting

00:39:05.040 Sunday

00:39:05.660 Bloody

00:39:06.320 Sunday

00:39:07.100 to

00:39:07.860 claim

00:39:08.220 the

00:39:08.440 victory

00:39:08.860 Jesus

00:39:09.340 won

00:39:09.900 on

00:39:10.360 Sunday

00:39:10.920 Bloody

00:39:11.280 Sunday.

00:39:11.720 One

00:39:13.760 thing that

00:39:30.220 I've

00:39:30.640 noted

00:39:31.460 is that

00:39:32.580 there's

00:39:34.560 really a

00:39:35.180 strong

00:39:35.860 difference

00:39:36.680 between

00:39:37.200 pre and

00:39:38.560 post

00:39:39.300 millennial

00:39:40.080 Christians.

00:39:41.720 And so

00:39:42.820 you have

00:39:43.540 this

00:39:43.760 book,

00:39:45.020 the

00:39:45.620 book of

00:39:46.340 Revelation

00:39:46.820 by John

00:39:47.900 Patmos,

00:39:49.240 you know,

00:39:49.960 apparently

00:39:50.760 or reportedly.

00:39:52.820 And it's

00:39:54.180 describing

00:39:55.000 Jesus's

00:39:56.380 return.

00:39:57.420 And he's

00:39:58.060 just this

00:39:58.500 Jesus Christ

00:39:59.500 like as

00:40:01.500 depicted by

00:40:02.260 Zack Snyder

00:40:03.200 or something

00:40:03.720 like he

00:40:04.260 he comes

00:40:05.520 up.

00:40:05.860 There's one

00:40:06.300 scene where

00:40:07.000 there's like

00:40:07.500 this this

00:40:08.420 whorish

00:40:09.020 woman and

00:40:10.740 he like

00:40:11.840 imagines

00:40:12.840 putting her

00:40:13.520 and her

00:40:13.780 children in

00:40:14.540 the bed and

00:40:15.320 just they

00:40:15.660 go up in

00:40:16.200 flames.

00:40:17.700 I can't

00:40:18.560 even I

00:40:18.880 don't think

00:40:19.240 I'm even

00:40:19.720 getting it

00:40:20.240 like how

00:40:20.620 violent it

00:40:21.280 is.

00:40:21.560 It's

00:40:22.120 basically

00:40:22.560 like Superman

00:40:23.520 with laser

00:40:24.280 eyes just

00:40:25.020 like slicing

00:40:26.280 people in

00:40:26.920 half or

00:40:27.580 Jesus

00:40:28.460 dark Jesus.

00:40:30.340 Yes,

00:40:30.540 that's what

00:40:31.740 it is.

00:40:32.260 And it's

00:40:33.140 it's it's

00:40:33.780 it's very

00:40:34.300 funny because

00:40:34.820 if you read

00:40:35.280 the gospel,

00:40:35.780 you don't

00:40:36.600 get this

00:40:37.180 at all,

00:40:38.160 of course.

00:40:39.440 And so

00:40:40.600 but then

00:40:41.000 there's like

00:40:41.480 if you read

00:40:42.140 right wing

00:40:42.720 Twitter,

00:40:43.100 this is all

00:40:44.020 you get.

00:40:44.720 Like this

00:40:44.940 is who

00:40:45.220 Jesus is

00:40:45.940 for them.

00:40:46.440 He's just

00:40:46.820 this like

00:40:47.620 fire breathing

00:40:48.420 maniac with

00:40:49.520 swords coming

00:40:50.260 out of his

00:40:50.640 mouth.

00:40:51.200 That's actually

00:40:51.600 a direct

00:40:52.100 reference and

00:40:53.020 like just

00:40:53.740 striking down

00:40:56.000 prostitutes and

00:40:57.400 you know,

00:40:58.500 leveling cities

00:40:59.880 and stuff

00:41:00.500 like this.

00:41:01.160 Yeah,

00:41:01.280 it's what they

00:41:01.800 want.

00:41:02.280 Just this like

00:41:02.780 ultimate revenge.

00:41:03.820 And so

00:41:05.260 the book of

00:41:06.580 Revelation has

00:41:07.200 been difficult

00:41:07.860 to understand

00:41:09.720 and treat.

00:41:10.460 I mean,

00:41:10.620 Martin Luther,

00:41:11.780 it is canonical,

00:41:13.660 but he didn't

00:41:14.140 know what to

00:41:14.660 do with it.

00:41:15.260 And I don't

00:41:15.940 think it was

00:41:16.680 terribly important

00:41:18.700 for him.

00:41:21.000 I think there

00:41:21.620 was an attempt

00:41:22.480 to like imagine

00:41:23.180 the horror

00:41:23.640 Babylon as

00:41:24.620 the Pope or

00:41:25.600 but it seems

00:41:26.480 almost just

00:41:27.080 metaphorical.

00:41:28.840 You know,

00:41:29.420 it's just

00:41:29.680 focused on the

00:41:30.260 Gospels.

00:41:30.740 But I mean,

00:41:31.160 so it depends

00:41:31.980 on how you

00:41:32.480 read it.

00:41:33.080 So I

00:41:33.820 Augustine

00:41:35.280 imagined that

00:41:36.440 that terrible

00:41:40.220 occurrence,

00:41:41.920 the tribulations

00:41:42.760 already occurred.

00:41:45.200 And so Jesus

00:41:46.080 is reigning

00:41:47.420 on the

00:41:48.400 throne as

00:41:49.500 the alternative

00:41:51.080 Christ that

00:41:52.240 is the

00:41:52.560 Pope.

00:41:54.120 And so

00:41:54.720 there's,

00:41:55.860 you know,

00:41:56.400 we are

00:41:57.020 experiencing

00:41:57.980 his reign.

00:41:58.760 And this

00:41:58.940 is a

00:41:59.660 post-millennial

00:42:01.760 millennial

00:42:02.760 type thinking.

00:42:03.940 Now,

00:42:04.660 the pre-mills

00:42:06.100 believe that

00:42:06.900 this is about

00:42:07.960 to come.

00:42:08.660 And this is

00:42:08.980 where you get

00:42:09.480 like the

00:42:09.860 rapture.

00:42:11.320 You know,

00:42:11.720 the true

00:42:12.680 believing

00:42:13.120 Christians are

00:42:14.000 going to be

00:42:14.320 just raptured

00:42:15.180 up to heaven

00:42:16.320 so they won't

00:42:17.000 have to

00:42:17.320 experience all

00:42:18.860 of these

00:42:19.100 tribulations.

00:42:19.640 Christians.

00:42:21.100 And

00:42:21.540 basically,

00:42:22.980 it's a sense

00:42:23.680 of like the

00:42:24.160 world getting

00:42:24.780 worse and

00:42:25.460 worse and

00:42:26.020 just everything

00:42:26.680 just is getting

00:42:27.940 horrible.

00:42:29.060 And soon,

00:42:29.720 you know,

00:42:30.080 brother will be

00:42:30.880 at brother's

00:42:31.500 throat and the

00:42:32.800 Antichrist will

00:42:33.760 come and the

00:42:34.460 beast will be

00:42:35.100 unleashed and

00:42:35.840 there'll be a

00:42:36.440 dragon and all

00:42:37.500 of this stuff

00:42:38.700 that we know.

00:42:40.240 Now,

00:42:40.420 do you take

00:42:40.900 that as a

00:42:41.380 metaphor for

00:42:42.360 Christian persecution

00:42:43.780 under Nero or

00:42:45.120 something?

00:42:45.520 Or do you think

00:42:46.080 of this as a

00:42:46.700 prophecy of what

00:42:47.680 is going to

00:42:49.860 occur at some

00:42:50.500 point and it

00:42:51.080 might even be

00:42:51.640 occurring soon?

00:42:53.820 And I think

00:42:54.680 for you too,

00:42:56.540 Bono has an

00:42:59.820 Anglican and

00:43:00.600 Catholic background.

00:43:02.460 And so what

00:43:04.120 he's saying in

00:43:05.440 Sunday Bloody

00:43:05.920 Sunday is why

00:43:07.960 he's not calling

00:43:09.100 upon the

00:43:09.580 apocalypse or

00:43:10.460 something.

00:43:11.080 He's saying

00:43:11.700 Jesus won

00:43:13.760 this battle

00:43:14.940 to claim the

00:43:15.600 victory Jesus

00:43:16.380 won.

00:43:16.880 It's already

00:43:17.460 happened.

00:43:19.220 And so why

00:43:20.380 are we acting

00:43:21.300 like this?

00:43:23.120 And it's

00:43:24.320 just it's been

00:43:25.500 ruined.

00:43:26.420 And I think

00:43:27.860 that Martin

00:43:28.940 Gore is

00:43:30.000 similar mind.

00:43:32.020 It's like you

00:43:33.260 have this and

00:43:34.400 you know,

00:43:34.640 maybe this album

00:43:35.220 came out in

00:43:35.700 2005, I

00:43:37.120 believe, or

00:43:37.420 2004.

00:43:37.940 2005, and

00:43:40.600 so maybe

00:43:41.480 Martin Gore

00:43:42.060 is freshly

00:43:42.920 remembering

00:43:43.560 the 2000

00:43:46.760 Y2K kind

00:43:48.340 of cult

00:43:48.880 stuff.

00:43:50.220 He this is a

00:43:51.360 Bush era

00:43:52.020 album, whereas

00:43:53.280 Sounds of the

00:43:54.420 Universe is an

00:43:55.920 Obama era

00:43:56.560 album.

00:43:56.920 And he's

00:43:59.360 just expressing

00:44:01.900 his outrage as

00:44:03.420 a universalist

00:44:05.960 post-mill

00:44:07.820 Christian at

00:44:09.280 how this

00:44:10.260 book should

00:44:11.400 be treated.

00:44:11.980 And I think

00:44:12.440 he's even

00:44:12.800 saying it

00:44:13.300 shouldn't even

00:44:13.720 be canonized.

00:44:14.900 It's a book

00:44:15.560 of lies.

00:44:16.760 In fact.

00:44:17.860 Definitely.

00:44:18.300 Definitely.

00:44:19.300 I think

00:44:19.840 like what he's

00:44:21.900 doing is what

00:44:22.700 I think

00:44:23.200 Christians have

00:44:24.600 been doing to

00:44:25.200 Jews and

00:44:25.740 Protestants

00:44:26.320 have been

00:44:26.620 doing to

00:44:27.080 Catholics in

00:44:28.740 the sense

00:44:29.240 that it's a

00:44:30.380 very Protestant

00:44:31.200 song.

00:44:32.580 If he's

00:44:33.160 dismissing this

00:44:33.980 saint, St.

00:44:35.060 John, why not

00:44:35.960 dismiss other

00:44:36.860 saints?

00:44:37.360 And it's

00:44:37.540 kind of

00:44:37.840 leading to a

00:44:38.700 better monotheism

00:44:40.220 for Martin

00:44:41.240 Gore.

00:44:41.540 if he's

00:44:41.840 saying like

00:44:42.620 stealing the

00:44:43.120 God from

00:44:43.560 the Israelites,

00:44:44.340 stealing the

00:44:44.760 God from a

00:44:45.300 Muslim too.

00:44:46.920 I mean, just

00:44:48.240 objectively, I

00:44:49.100 think that

00:44:49.740 Christianity is

00:44:51.560 less monotheistic

00:44:52.940 with the, not

00:44:54.960 only the

00:44:55.300 depictions of

00:44:56.160 Christ, both

00:44:58.040 two-dimensional and

00:44:58.860 three-dimensional,

00:45:00.260 but the

00:45:01.660 Holy Spirit

00:45:03.660 itself is in

00:45:04.380 three parts,

00:45:05.260 whereas in

00:45:05.800 Islam or

00:45:06.700 Judaism, it's

00:45:08.660 all abstract.

00:45:09.460 and I

00:45:11.580 kind of think

00:45:12.740 that's what

00:45:13.140 it's like, him

00:45:14.500 being like a

00:45:15.040 better Protestant,

00:45:16.160 you know, that's

00:45:17.220 the way I take

00:45:17.880 the song, or

00:45:19.080 being a better

00:45:19.720 monotheist, like

00:45:21.280 getting closer

00:45:22.240 to Yahweh.

00:45:23.980 And in fact,

00:45:24.580 like the, all

00:45:26.020 St. John does

00:45:27.020 is, all he does

00:45:28.200 is give us pain

00:45:29.020 in the sense

00:45:29.660 that like the

00:45:31.400 seven seals of

00:45:32.160 the revelation,

00:45:32.960 but also in the

00:45:33.900 sense that he's

00:45:34.780 giving us pain

00:45:35.480 or obscuring

00:45:36.240 the, one's

00:45:38.580 true connection

00:45:39.180 to Yahweh,

00:45:40.600 perhaps.

00:45:42.580 Yes.

00:45:44.400 Yeah.

00:45:45.760 And I, I

00:45:46.980 don't, I

00:45:47.560 don't think

00:45:48.040 Martin Gore, I

00:45:48.840 don't think

00:45:49.160 Bono are

00:45:49.920 people who

00:45:50.620 think that

00:45:51.580 everything just

00:45:52.720 keeps getting

00:45:53.400 better, excuse

00:45:54.420 me, the

00:45:55.520 opposite.

00:45:56.000 Everything just

00:45:56.500 keeps getting

00:45:57.280 worse, just

00:45:58.280 things get

00:45:58.660 worse and

00:45:59.220 worse and

00:45:59.700 worse and

00:46:00.160 worse.

00:46:00.500 And someday

00:46:01.120 laser-eyed

00:46:02.260 Jesus is just

00:46:03.200 going to

00:46:03.480 strike down

00:46:04.460 the world.

00:46:05.080 or so, I

00:46:05.560 don't, this

00:46:06.500 kind of

00:46:07.560 thing doesn't

00:46:08.960 appeal to

00:46:09.520 them.

00:46:10.800 And that's, I,

00:46:13.160 yeah, I do

00:46:13.980 think he wants

00:46:14.660 to rescue

00:46:15.940 Christianity

00:46:16.860 from this.

00:46:19.120 And it's

00:46:19.920 interesting because

00:46:20.580 I would imagine,

00:46:21.440 I don't know

00:46:21.940 enough about

00:46:22.800 John Willie,

00:46:24.620 John, or

00:46:24.960 blind Willie

00:46:25.580 Johnson, but I

00:46:26.780 would imagine he

00:46:27.420 probably resonated

00:46:28.380 with a lot of

00:46:29.100 that pre-mill

00:46:30.320 stuff.

00:46:30.880 Yeah, who's

00:46:33.500 that writing,

00:46:34.220 John the

00:46:34.560 Revelator?

00:46:37.900 Now who

00:46:38.600 aren't worthy,

00:46:39.300 crucified, and

00:46:39.960 holy, bound

00:46:41.120 up for some,

00:46:42.080 son of our

00:46:42.740 God, daughter

00:46:43.500 of Zion, Judea's

00:46:44.900 lion, he

00:46:46.020 redeemed us,

00:46:46.880 Jesus brought

00:46:47.580 us with his

00:46:48.220 blood.

00:46:49.500 Now tell me

00:46:49.900 who's that

00:46:50.220 writing, John

00:46:50.880 the Revelator?

00:46:52.440 A book of

00:46:53.160 the seven

00:46:53.660 seals.

00:46:54.880 Well, Moses

00:46:55.560 to Moses

00:46:56.160 watching the

00:46:56.960 flock saw the

00:46:57.860 bush where they

00:46:58.500 had to stop.

00:46:59.680 God told

00:47:00.260 Moses, Paul

00:47:00.860 off your

00:47:01.340 shoes, out

00:47:02.060 of the

00:47:02.320 flock.

00:47:03.220 Owella, you

00:47:03.980 I choose.

00:47:05.980 Who's that

00:47:06.520 writing, John

00:47:07.060 the Revelator?

00:47:08.260 Who's that

00:47:08.780 writing, John

00:47:09.200 the Revelator?

00:47:09.720 A book of the

00:47:10.200 seven seals.

00:47:11.380 Yeah, so a

00:47:12.200 little bit more

00:47:12.660 Old Testament.

00:47:14.840 Yeah, but

00:47:15.500 there's no reason

00:47:16.280 to believe that

00:47:16.940 he disregards

00:47:18.700 John.

00:47:19.560 Whereas, yeah,

00:47:20.060 I agree.

00:47:22.120 Depeche Mode's

00:47:22.560 John the Revelator

00:47:23.380 is an anti-John

00:47:25.500 song.

00:47:28.680 Yeah, in a lot

00:47:29.240 of ways, it's

00:47:29.840 just basically,

00:47:31.260 like I said,

00:47:31.720 continuing that

00:47:32.320 tradition of

00:47:32.780 we're better

00:47:33.160 Jews than

00:47:33.860 Jews.

00:47:34.800 That's basically

00:47:35.220 what Christians

00:47:35.880 and then in

00:47:36.420 this way, Martin

00:47:37.280 is sort of

00:47:37.860 saying.

00:47:39.520 Is there

00:47:39.840 another one you

00:47:41.580 want to dive

00:47:42.380 into?

00:47:43.260 Or?

00:47:44.760 I think

00:47:45.060 Suffer Well

00:47:45.820 is, it

00:47:46.940 might actually

00:47:47.740 be my favorite.

00:47:49.340 I mean, John

00:47:49.660 the Revelator

00:47:50.120 is great, but

00:47:51.260 I think that

00:47:52.220 there is, it's

00:47:53.820 pretty interesting.

00:47:54.880 it's obviously

00:47:55.440 about self-

00:47:56.200 overcoming

00:47:56.680 and Dave's

00:47:58.120 drug overdoses

00:47:59.180 and suicide

00:47:59.800 attempts that

00:48:01.420 he had after

00:48:02.800 Songs of Faith

00:48:03.880 and Devotion

00:48:04.440 and pre-Ultra.

00:48:06.540 But the

00:48:08.280 interesting thing

00:48:09.300 is that

00:48:09.640 somebody told

00:48:11.320 him while

00:48:12.060 he was, I

00:48:13.660 believe while

00:48:14.240 he was recovering

00:48:14.900 from heroin

00:48:15.600 and withdrawing

00:48:16.980 basically to

00:48:17.900 suffer well.

00:48:19.360 And that

00:48:19.620 phrase stuck

00:48:20.820 with him.

00:48:21.360 Not like,

00:48:22.320 I hope you

00:48:23.320 have a really

00:48:23.680 tough go at

00:48:24.540 withdrawing from

00:48:25.280 heroin, but

00:48:25.840 I hope it

00:48:26.760 goes well for

00:48:27.340 you basically.

00:48:28.200 So suffer

00:48:28.740 well.

00:48:29.120 And I

00:48:30.360 think it's

00:48:31.180 probably his

00:48:31.880 best song

00:48:32.520 that he's

00:48:32.920 ever written

00:48:33.340 with Depeche

00:48:33.880 Mode.

00:48:45.160 I found

00:48:46.040 treasure not

00:48:47.200 where I

00:48:47.900 thought

00:48:48.680 a piece

00:48:49.460 of

00:48:49.860 might

00:48:50.520 can't

00:48:51.440 be bought

00:48:52.660 Still

00:48:55.360 I

00:48:56.040 believe

00:48:57.160 I

00:49:02.860 just

00:49:03.160 didn't

00:49:03.620 suffer

00:49:06.920 well

00:49:07.960 Sometimes

00:49:10.280 it's

00:49:11.360 hard

00:49:12.500 It's

00:49:13.920 hard to

00:49:14.580 tell

00:49:27.160 Take me

00:49:33.660 back

00:49:34.280 I've

00:49:34.920 changed

00:49:35.340 my

00:49:35.620 mind

00:49:36.540 And now

00:49:39.400 I

00:49:40.000 believe

00:49:40.920 From the

00:49:44.060 blackest

00:49:44.780 room

00:49:45.500 I was

00:49:46.580 told

00:49:47.280 He

00:49:47.740 called

00:49:48.120 my

00:49:48.420 name

00:49:49.000 And

00:49:49.600 love

00:49:50.000 was

00:49:50.480 born

00:49:51.440 So

00:49:54.000 I

00:49:54.660 believe

00:49:55.360 I

00:50:01.360 just

00:50:01.740 hang

00:50:02.240 on

00:50:04.740 Suffer

00:50:05.860 well

00:50:06.600 Sometimes

00:50:08.940 it's

00:50:10.060 hard

00:50:11.400 It's

00:50:12.560 hard to

00:50:13.180 tell

00:50:14.060 I

00:50:16.060 just

00:50:16.400 hang

00:50:16.900 on

00:50:17.760 Suffer

00:50:20.440 well

00:50:21.440 Sometimes

00:50:23.560 it's

00:50:24.680 hard

00:50:25.980 So

00:50:27.180 hard

00:50:27.640 to

00:50:27.860 tell

00:50:28.760 From the

00:50:36.080 blackest

00:50:36.560 room

00:50:36.860 I

00:50:37.020 was

00:50:37.180 torn

00:50:37.700 You

00:50:37.920 called

00:50:38.180 my

00:50:38.380 name

00:50:38.680 My

00:50:38.880 love

00:50:39.180 was

00:50:39.360 born

00:50:39.660 So

00:50:39.920 I

00:50:40.140 believe

00:50:40.600 Just

00:50:42.400 hang

00:50:42.680 on

00:50:43.000 Yeah

00:50:43.480 the

00:50:43.760 his

00:50:44.180 he

00:50:44.400 did

00:50:44.600 a

00:50:44.800 solo

00:50:45.220 album

00:50:45.740 called

00:50:46.360 is it

00:50:47.280 called

00:50:47.440 Paper

00:50:47.820 Monster

00:50:48.340 Yeah

00:50:49.880 Paper

00:50:50.180 Monsters

00:50:50.700 would have

00:50:51.020 come out

00:50:51.460 in like

00:50:51.720 2003

00:50:52.360 Yeah

00:50:53.440 and

00:50:55.200 he

00:50:56.100 there's

00:50:56.700 a lot

00:50:56.980 there are

00:50:57.400 a number

00:50:57.780 of songs

00:50:58.260 about

00:50:58.660 drug

00:50:59.380 overdose

00:50:59.720 and

00:51:00.220 all of

00:51:01.160 that

00:51:01.360 stuff

00:51:01.640 he

00:51:01.840 also

00:51:02.300 wrote

00:51:03.000 that

00:51:03.180 with

00:51:03.400 Christian

00:51:03.920 Eigner

00:51:04.360 who

00:51:05.320 seems

00:51:05.520 to be

00:51:05.740 a

00:51:05.860 longtime

00:51:06.180 friend

00:51:06.900 and

00:51:07.180 collaborator

00:51:07.960 I

00:51:09.000 think

00:51:09.160 there's

00:51:09.360 some

00:51:09.520 good

00:51:09.860 it's

00:51:11.120 kind

00:51:11.380 of

00:51:11.480 like

00:51:11.640 a

00:51:11.800 sub

00:51:12.340 Depeche

00:51:12.820 Mode

00:51:13.040 album

00:51:13.340 but

00:51:13.560 I

00:51:13.720 do

00:51:14.020 think

00:51:14.240 it's

00:51:14.500 good

00:51:14.840 definitely

00:51:16.240 not

00:51:16.440 as

00:51:17.400 good

00:51:17.640 as

00:51:17.880 the

00:51:18.080 soul

00:51:18.260 savers

00:51:18.600 work

00:51:18.900 which

00:51:19.100 I

00:51:19.240 actually

00:51:19.460 think

00:51:19.660 is

00:51:19.780 great

00:51:20.060 yeah

00:51:21.880 okay

00:51:22.160 I

00:51:22.400 agree

00:51:22.800 with

00:51:23.000 you

00:51:23.080 but

00:51:23.240 I

00:51:23.440 will

00:51:23.760 say

00:51:23.980 that

00:51:24.280 the

00:51:25.940 song

00:51:26.280 Damage

00:51:26.760 People

00:51:27.160 it's

00:51:28.140 pretty

00:51:28.460 good

00:51:28.840 but

00:51:29.880 it's

00:51:30.420 not

00:51:30.900 one

00:51:32.100 of

00:51:32.260 Martin's

00:51:32.980 solo

00:51:33.460 like

00:51:33.900 or

00:51:34.180 lead

00:51:34.940 vocal

00:51:35.260 like

00:51:35.540 best

00:51:36.000 parts

00:51:37.620 I

00:51:37.820 think

00:51:37.980 it's

00:51:38.860 pretty

00:51:39.200 straightforward

00:51:39.920 for him

00:51:40.700 you know

00:51:41.520 for us

00:51:42.800 I think

00:51:43.300 it would

00:51:43.460 be

00:51:43.580 straightforward

00:51:43.960 but

00:51:44.340 I

00:51:45.440 saw

00:51:45.760 a

00:51:46.180 documentary

00:51:46.820 about

00:51:48.180 Depeche

00:51:48.720 Mode

00:51:48.920 fans

00:51:49.300 and

00:51:49.820 there

00:51:50.080 was

00:51:50.360 I

00:51:50.780 believe

00:51:51.360 an

00:51:51.620 Anglican

00:51:52.380 church

00:51:52.840 in

00:51:53.900 the

00:51:54.260 UK

00:51:54.560 that

00:51:55.440 maybe

00:51:56.900 Episcopalian

00:51:57.800 they were

00:52:00.000 playing

00:52:00.460 like

00:52:00.780 literally

00:52:02.120 at the

00:52:03.060 altar

00:52:03.360 they were

00:52:03.680 playing

00:52:04.040 this

00:52:04.360 song

00:52:04.860 they were

00:52:06.140 playing

00:52:06.420 like

00:52:06.620 other

00:52:06.880 pop

00:52:07.280 songs

00:52:07.880 really

00:52:08.400 yeah

00:52:09.600 just

00:52:10.020 like

00:52:10.260 at

00:52:10.600 I'm

00:52:11.340 like

00:52:11.520 90%

00:52:12.200 sure

00:52:12.420 it was

00:52:12.560 like

00:52:12.700 at

00:52:12.980 the

00:52:13.200 altar

00:52:13.460 which

00:52:13.820 I

00:52:14.140 would

00:52:14.420 have

00:52:14.540 thought

00:52:14.780 would

00:52:14.960 have

00:52:15.060 been

00:52:15.240 a

00:52:15.460 pretty

00:52:16.400 big

00:52:16.900 sacrilege

00:52:18.040 to do

00:52:18.880 no

00:52:19.100 they

00:52:19.320 do

00:52:19.600 that

00:52:19.880 there's

00:52:20.160 a

00:52:20.340 YouTube

00:52:20.780 Christ

00:52:21.680 as

00:52:22.460 well

00:52:22.780 oh

00:52:23.760 really

00:52:24.040 yes

00:52:24.920 this

00:52:25.260 is

00:52:25.420 the

00:52:25.540 thing

00:52:25.920 among

00:52:26.280 Anglicans

00:52:27.220 yeah

00:52:30.040 that's

00:52:30.500 what

00:52:30.620 they

00:52:30.780 were

00:52:31.040 too

00:52:31.300 because

00:52:31.520 the

00:52:31.700 album

00:52:32.000 came

00:52:32.440 I'm

00:52:33.200 sorry

00:52:33.360 the

00:52:33.480 documentary

00:52:33.860 came

00:52:34.320 out

00:52:34.680 around

00:52:35.140 the

00:52:35.300 same

00:52:35.480 time

00:52:35.720 as

00:52:35.840 this

00:52:36.020 album

00:52:36.400 and

00:52:37.700 that's

00:52:38.280 where

00:52:38.380 I

00:52:38.460 was

00:52:38.580 telling

00:52:38.760 you

00:52:38.900 on

00:52:39.040 the

00:52:39.160 last

00:52:40.020 podcast

00:52:41.140 about

00:52:41.660 that

00:52:42.300 kid

00:52:42.640 from

00:52:42.900 LA

00:52:43.280 the

00:52:43.500 Mexican

00:52:43.800 kid

00:52:44.060 from

00:52:44.200 LA

00:52:44.420 who

00:52:44.600 scared

00:52:45.020 the

00:52:45.160 hell

00:52:45.300 out

00:52:45.500 of

00:52:45.580 me

00:52:45.720 how

00:52:46.140 pathological

00:52:47.420 his love

00:52:48.040 for

00:52:48.360 Depeche Mode

00:52:48.920 was

00:52:49.200 it also

00:52:50.400 featured

00:52:50.900 these kids

00:52:51.960 from the

00:52:52.660 UK

00:52:52.880 who were

00:52:53.660 going to

00:52:54.340 church

00:52:54.620 and the

00:52:55.420 song that

00:52:55.920 they played

00:52:56.280 was Damaged

00:52:56.800 People

00:52:57.060 and it

00:52:57.280 was like

00:52:57.520 this weird

00:52:58.380 candlelit

00:53:00.340 sort of

00:53:01.340 event

00:53:01.940 in the

00:53:02.440 church

00:53:02.920 and

00:53:03.660 yeah

00:53:04.400 they were

00:53:04.680 just playing

00:53:05.160 it

00:53:05.380 but

00:53:05.720 it was

00:53:06.560 just

00:53:06.780 wild

00:53:07.600 to me

00:53:08.100 we're

00:53:25.340 damaged

00:53:25.860 people

00:53:26.640 drawn

00:53:28.980 together

00:53:30.680 by

00:53:31.720 subtleties

00:53:33.180 that we

00:53:33.920 are not

00:53:34.880 aware

00:53:35.580 of

00:53:36.520 disturbed

00:53:38.940 souls

00:53:41.360 playing

00:53:42.640 out

00:53:43.160 forever

00:53:43.840 these

00:53:45.120 games

00:53:45.860 that we

00:53:46.360 once

00:53:46.860 thought

00:53:47.340 we

00:53:47.640 would

00:53:48.040 be

00:53:48.320 scared

00:53:48.880 of

00:53:49.860 when

00:53:56.460 you're

00:53:57.020 in my

00:53:58.040 arms

00:53:59.200 the

00:54:00.240 world

00:54:00.640 makes

00:54:01.360 sense

00:54:02.260 there

00:54:03.200 is

00:54:03.560 no

00:54:04.080 pretense

00:54:05.620 and you're

00:54:06.860 crying

00:54:07.960 and you're

00:54:11.920 by my

00:54:12.920 side

00:54:14.000 there

00:54:14.840 is no

00:54:15.740 defense

00:54:17.320 I forget

00:54:18.740 to

00:54:19.800 sense

00:54:21.080 I'm

00:54:21.960 dying

00:54:22.960 it is a

00:54:31.800 very christian

00:54:32.260 song but

00:54:32.640 there are

00:54:32.780 a number

00:54:32.940 of other

00:54:33.240 things

00:54:33.520 the

00:54:33.720 should I

00:54:34.920 bring him

00:54:35.860 down

00:54:36.660 should I

00:54:37.580 scream and

00:54:38.520 shout

00:54:39.380 should I

00:54:40.340 speak of

00:54:41.260 love

00:54:41.940 let my

00:54:42.840 feelings

00:54:43.700 out

00:54:44.560 so that's

00:54:45.340 from jesus christ

00:54:46.120 superstar

00:54:46.640 and when

00:54:48.660 you're in

00:54:49.380 my arms

00:54:50.940 the world

00:54:51.860 makes

00:54:52.360 sense

00:54:53.240 there is

00:54:53.880 no

00:54:54.400 pretense

00:54:55.520 and you're

00:54:56.320 crying

00:54:57.320 should I

00:54:59.720 bring him

00:55:00.840 down

00:55:01.680 should I

00:55:03.020 scream and

00:55:04.180 shout

00:55:05.120 should I

00:55:06.360 speak of

00:55:07.560 love

00:55:08.640 let my

00:55:09.740 feelings

00:55:10.400 out

00:55:11.840 I never

00:55:12.740 thought

00:55:13.540 I'd

00:55:14.740 come to

00:55:15.940 thee

00:55:16.240 when I

00:55:17.020 heard that

00:55:17.580 I liked

00:55:18.120 that chorus

00:55:19.560 or I guess

00:55:20.020 kind of lead

00:55:20.540 in or

00:55:20.820 something a

00:55:21.320 lot but

00:55:21.680 then I

00:55:21.920 was like

00:55:22.160 where have

00:55:22.460 I heard

00:55:22.740 that before

00:55:23.280 not that

00:55:25.340 Andrew

00:55:25.660 webber

00:55:26.280 doesn't

00:55:27.200 rip off

00:55:27.840 like every

00:55:28.460 song that

00:55:29.080 he's ever

00:55:29.340 written but

00:55:29.880 yeah

00:55:32.420 it's

00:55:33.740 interesting

00:55:34.120 yeah it's

00:55:36.020 that kind of

00:55:36.500 build up

00:55:37.280 of just

00:55:39.280 kind of like

00:55:39.700 rising note

00:55:40.620 by note

00:55:41.040 that I

00:55:41.300 yeah it's

00:55:41.760 good

00:55:41.980 I will say

00:55:43.560 like yeah

00:55:44.820 I think

00:55:45.260 the darkest

00:55:45.840 star how

00:55:46.500 the album

00:55:47.340 the official

00:55:48.540 album ends

00:55:49.360 I think

00:55:49.820 that is

00:55:50.540 an interesting

00:55:51.140 track I

00:55:51.680 think it's

00:55:51.940 rather

00:55:52.240 autobiographical

00:55:54.140 it's the

00:55:56.260 track that

00:55:56.900 uses the

00:55:57.480 playing the

00:55:57.860 angel I

00:55:58.920 don't want

00:55:59.420 you to

00:55:59.800 change

00:56:00.060 anything you

00:56:00.560 do I

00:56:01.080 feel like

00:56:01.520 maybe he's

00:56:02.200 talking about

00:56:02.760 himself in

00:56:03.460 the sense

00:56:03.840 that like

00:56:04.280 his flaws

00:56:05.380 that he

00:56:06.280 writes about

00:56:06.980 are like

00:56:07.880 that's his

00:56:08.560 source of

00:56:09.060 inspiration so

00:56:09.920 like stay

00:56:10.760 as you are

00:56:11.320 the darkest

00:56:11.840 star shining

00:56:12.860 for me

00:56:13.300 majestically

00:56:14.040 I you know

00:56:15.220 it's like

00:56:15.640 I heard

00:56:16.100 Kurt Cobain

00:56:16.840 had said

00:56:17.200 before he

00:56:18.740 had these

00:56:18.980 like really

00:56:19.300 bad like

00:56:19.780 stomach aches

00:56:20.380 I don't

00:56:20.560 know from

00:56:21.800 what was the

00:56:22.740 source of

00:56:23.140 them but

00:56:23.860 he used

00:56:25.200 that stump

00:56:26.100 those stomach

00:56:26.680 aches as

00:56:27.100 like a

00:56:27.420 source for

00:56:27.860 his lyrical

00:56:29.680 or musical

00:56:30.340 inspiration and

00:56:32.140 I think that's

00:56:32.860 sort of what

00:56:33.320 the darkest

00:56:34.000 star is getting

00:56:34.900 at is like

00:56:35.560 if I'm not

00:56:36.580 this alcoholic

00:56:38.280 divorcee like

00:56:39.680 then I can't

00:56:40.680 be this dark

00:56:41.440 star this

00:56:42.160 character or

00:56:43.260 maybe that's

00:56:43.980 just who he

00:56:44.360 really is but

00:56:45.160 like you know

00:56:45.560 he can't be

00:56:46.280 that person

00:56:46.940 I think that's

00:56:48.320 kind of what

00:56:48.680 the song is

00:56:49.420 so he's singing

00:56:49.960 about you but

00:56:50.640 he's really

00:56:50.940 singing about me

00:56:51.740 is what he's

00:56:52.200 saying what

00:56:52.680 you're saying

00:56:53.160 right yeah

00:56:55.160 yeah that's

00:56:55.900 interesting

00:56:56.220 oh you sad one

00:57:13.140 playing the angel

00:57:18.800 isn't so easy

00:57:24.020 where you're from

00:57:27.600 oh you wild one

00:57:36.700 devil's companion

00:57:41.520 you won't stay

00:57:46.500 satisfied for long

00:57:50.800 I don't want you

00:57:59.920 to change

00:58:02.000 anything you do

00:58:07.060 that's the way

00:58:10.240 that I I took

00:58:11.680 it um but

00:58:12.680 yeah and just

00:58:13.720 like I mean

00:58:14.720 just in general

00:58:16.280 it made me think

00:58:16.980 about like the

00:58:18.000 fact that Dave

00:58:19.040 has sung most

00:58:20.060 of Martin's

00:58:20.720 written songs

00:58:21.560 is just another

00:58:22.860 layer of

00:58:23.860 ambiguity because

00:58:24.980 just naturally

00:58:26.200 upon first listen

00:58:28.700 you think the

00:58:29.620 singer had

00:58:30.320 something to do

00:58:30.900 because he's

00:58:31.440 singing the lyrics

00:58:32.020 he had something

00:58:32.700 to do with the

00:58:33.700 the writing so

00:58:35.960 there's always

00:58:36.620 it's like the

00:58:37.400 in the same way

00:58:38.360 that he's like

00:58:40.120 he's like hiding

00:58:40.700 behind uh Dave

00:58:41.960 in a way you

00:58:42.600 know because he's

00:58:43.460 not a very like

00:58:44.240 outward kind of

00:58:45.880 figure like uh

00:58:47.320 like Dave Gaughan

00:58:48.460 is he's not the

00:58:49.240 showman that Dave

00:58:50.000 Gaughan is it's

00:58:51.260 it sort of reminds

00:58:52.000 me of like Jason

00:58:52.620 Alexander playing

00:58:53.540 like Costanza but

00:58:54.940 like the whole time

00:58:56.320 Costanza's really

00:58:57.560 based on Larry

00:58:58.440 David in a way

00:59:00.080 it's like that the

00:59:01.120 kind of like

00:59:01.620 inaccessibility you

00:59:03.200 know keeps the

00:59:04.500 uh avid fan or

00:59:06.640 whatever interested

00:59:07.440 I I like it

00:59:09.460 yeah this also

00:59:11.280 goes back to what

00:59:11.980 I said at the

00:59:13.460 beginning which

00:59:14.160 there's a certain

00:59:15.200 self-awareness of

00:59:18.540 the fact that

00:59:19.340 they're Depeche

00:59:19.940 mode and

00:59:22.500 definitely you're

00:59:23.860 going to be the

00:59:24.320 darkest star and

00:59:25.320 you're going to

00:59:25.840 keep on shining

00:59:26.540 yeah um what

00:59:31.480 did you uh what

00:59:32.520 did you make of

00:59:32.980 cover I was gonna

00:59:36.040 ask you that I'm

00:59:37.120 not sure what I

00:59:37.780 make it it's it's

00:59:39.080 a figure it's

00:59:40.620 playing the angel

00:59:41.520 and then it's

00:59:43.740 this puffy figure

00:59:45.940 apparently made

00:59:47.320 out of feathers

00:59:48.520 okay my take on it

00:59:51.480 is like the title

00:59:52.820 playing the angel

00:59:53.700 is like it's like

00:59:55.640 playing pretending

00:59:57.280 to be like a good

00:59:58.460 person not necessarily

00:59:59.660 that you are and

01:00:01.000 and that's the way

01:00:01.980 that like Martin

01:00:02.780 often that's the

01:00:04.500 perspective from

01:00:05.240 which he usually

01:00:06.680 writes and also

01:00:08.800 he dresses as an

01:00:11.440 angel during the

01:00:12.200 touring the angel so

01:00:13.220 like during this

01:00:13.840 tour he was dressed

01:00:15.080 in like the makeup

01:00:15.880 and stuff and he

01:00:16.820 had like these wings

01:00:17.820 and he was like in

01:00:18.600 white yeah um from

01:00:21.320 I was obviously not

01:00:22.620 listening to them at

01:00:23.600 11 years old but

01:00:24.600 yeah this is like

01:00:25.780 stuff that I've I've

01:00:26.640 seen then uh but

01:00:28.720 you know I think

01:00:29.720 playing the angel

01:00:31.400 might shed some

01:00:33.760 light maybe maybe

01:00:35.320 I'm reading too much

01:00:36.080 into it but might

01:00:37.080 shed some light on

01:00:37.820 his like divorce

01:00:38.780 maybe maybe not he

01:00:40.380 necessarily maybe his

01:00:41.520 wife was quote unquote

01:00:42.500 playing the angel but

01:00:43.640 yeah like in other

01:00:45.500 words like being like

01:00:46.480 this kind of victim

01:00:47.440 figure but I think

01:00:49.740 the cover is really

01:00:51.560 good and it's

01:00:52.100 probably the best

01:00:53.020 cover that they've

01:00:53.740 done in the 20th

01:00:56.020 century I would say

01:00:56.780 and it's Anton

01:00:58.800 Corbin again and

01:01:00.480 it's it's got a lot

01:01:04.040 of mean I think it's

01:01:04.920 probably the most

01:01:05.520 meaningful cover since

01:01:07.860 like Violator or

01:01:09.120 most interesting cover

01:01:10.380 since Violator

01:01:11.680 So the feathers are

01:01:12.420 wings basically that

01:01:14.140 this is the kind of

01:01:15.040 visual metaphor okay

01:01:16.300 yeah but they're dark

01:01:17.820 too you know the

01:01:18.980 darkest star it's

01:01:20.980 like he's this black

01:01:22.340 bird but trying to

01:01:23.720 be something he's

01:01:24.600 not almost like

01:01:25.380 playing the angel

01:01:25.980 you know what I

01:01:26.420 mean because like I

01:01:27.120 just like is kind of

01:01:28.100 disagree I okay

01:01:30.020 what do you think

01:01:32.700 then I I think it's

01:01:34.840 I I I think it's

01:01:37.040 something that like

01:01:37.860 could have been made

01:01:38.880 by a kindergartner

01:01:42.560 or something

01:01:43.120 okay I'm trying to

01:01:48.520 give Corbin his

01:01:49.800 yeah I mean maybe

01:01:51.260 maybe that's the

01:01:52.320 meaning because it's

01:01:53.080 a divorce album or

01:01:54.320 something I don't

01:01:55.460 know um yeah you

01:01:56.820 could be right

01:01:57.320 yeah no of all the

01:02:00.140 things I mean it's

01:02:01.220 fine everyone's

01:02:02.000 entitled to their

01:02:02.620 opinion but um of

01:02:04.280 all the things to

01:02:05.080 praise the cover is

01:02:06.460 uh not what I would

01:02:08.580 turn to well I mean

01:02:11.220 I I don't know I

01:02:12.140 kind of hated I kind

01:02:13.820 of hated the exciter

01:02:14.920 cover like that

01:02:16.240 flower but but that

01:02:19.180 was real weird I

01:02:20.580 mean that was a

01:02:21.100 microcosm and

01:02:22.320 macrovision and

01:02:23.240 it's interesting I

01:02:26.500 think I don't know

01:02:28.880 best covers so

01:02:31.240 yeah that's black

01:02:32.140 celebration um a

01:02:34.920 failed cover although

01:02:36.440 an interesting idea

01:02:37.640 um uh violator so

01:02:42.480 simple and mental

01:02:43.400 minimalist that it

01:02:44.440 just works music for

01:02:45.780 the masses totally

01:02:46.800 works ultra a

01:02:50.540 little too 90s it

01:02:51.900 looks like the

01:02:52.780 yeah like a David

01:02:54.160 Fincher movie or

01:02:55.540 something um just

01:02:58.740 very 90s

01:03:00.000 memento mori again

01:03:03.340 evoking the angels

01:03:04.340 they're two angels I

01:03:05.600 I think it's a little

01:03:06.700 too easy almost what

01:03:10.180 is I mean broken

01:03:10.820 frame amazing

01:03:11.840 photograph communist

01:03:13.280 imagery obviously

01:03:15.100 very interesting

01:03:15.880 speak and spell

01:03:17.020 like it looks it

01:03:17.940 kind of half-assed in

01:03:19.300 a way but kind of

01:03:20.560 provocative you know

01:03:22.460 if unintentionally

01:03:23.420 construction time

01:03:24.080 again too like that's

01:03:25.480 a great album cover

01:03:26.800 yeah yeah I like that

01:03:28.380 album cover it's cool

01:03:29.340 it looks like some

01:03:30.340 you know there I

01:03:31.660 think it was actually

01:03:32.620 shot in the matter

01:03:33.880 horn so it's it's

01:03:34.700 kind of has a euro

01:03:36.380 feel um some great

01:03:39.960 reward I think is

01:03:40.680 good but not great

01:03:42.480 um songs of faith

01:03:44.280 and devotion it's

01:03:45.300 cool but it's you

01:03:46.640 know it's kind of

01:03:47.100 showing the band

01:03:47.820 members maybe not

01:03:50.040 terribly original

01:03:51.360 sounds of the

01:03:53.080 universe minimalistic

01:03:54.720 but not terribly

01:03:56.360 interesting um spirit

01:03:59.660 just total pass yeah

01:04:02.420 delta machines also

01:04:04.220 kind of yeah not bad

01:04:08.100 but not interesting

01:04:09.280 or good

01:04:09.820 yeah violator is the

01:04:13.400 one that that's just

01:04:14.320 a classic album cover

01:04:15.900 it's so simple

01:04:16.880 it's iconic

01:04:18.200 it they weren't

01:04:19.940 trying to do too

01:04:20.940 much they weren't

01:04:21.400 doing that 90s thing

01:04:22.460 where you just

01:04:22.940 over saturate

01:04:24.240 the with you know

01:04:27.300 all these fonts

01:04:28.740 and and and just

01:04:30.260 you know like

01:04:30.900 overlaying like

01:04:32.060 trend you know

01:04:32.740 transposing images on

01:04:34.660 one another and it's

01:04:35.760 just so like

01:04:36.540 complicated that it

01:04:37.640 becomes I they

01:04:38.540 didn't do that they

01:04:39.320 just did something

01:04:39.940 extremely simple

01:04:41.260 and um very good

01:04:43.920 music for the masses

01:04:45.320 also I mean I think

01:04:46.340 that's a great

01:04:46.920 album cover

01:04:48.780 yeah it's it's

01:04:50.980 yeah it's iconic

01:04:52.380 as they say

01:04:53.400 but yeah I mean

01:04:55.080 just the last bit

01:04:56.060 on the uh playing

01:04:57.440 the angel cover

01:04:58.220 I think like the

01:04:59.860 feathers I couldn't

01:05:01.160 help but get like

01:05:02.280 holy spirit represented

01:05:04.320 as a dove kind of

01:05:05.560 vibes but that's

01:05:07.640 really yeah that's

01:05:08.520 the last like bit

01:05:09.520 of interpretation I

01:05:10.440 have on the cover

01:05:11.460 but yeah I don't

01:05:12.480 think it's that bad

01:05:13.400 it's not great

01:05:15.840 but yeah

01:05:17.700 I would say that

01:05:22.880 this album has one

01:05:24.480 of the best b-sides

01:05:26.340 ever

01:05:27.340 Depeche Mode has

01:05:28.540 had a lot of

01:05:29.520 very good b-sides

01:05:30.680 we can think of

01:05:32.480 pleasure little

01:05:33.100 treasure but not

01:05:34.880 tonight and there

01:05:35.860 are a few others

01:05:37.040 there's even the

01:05:38.040 b-side of uh speak

01:05:39.700 and spell

01:05:40.220 this was the b-side

01:05:43.040 to the single a

01:05:44.100 pain that I'm used

01:05:44.780 to it's newborn

01:05:45.480 and it's interesting

01:05:47.300 because it it

01:05:47.940 obviously evokes

01:05:48.560 newborn child

01:05:49.520 maybe even rhymes

01:05:52.300 with precious in

01:05:53.520 that way

01:05:54.040 but I think

01:05:56.040 it's more about

01:05:57.060 it's it's more

01:05:58.400 of the Depeche

01:05:59.260 Mode's take

01:06:00.780 on the born

01:06:01.820 again concept

01:06:03.360 newborn for the

01:06:05.420 first time

01:06:06.240 I'm not born

01:06:07.240 again I have

01:06:08.380 never lived at

01:06:09.220 all I've opened

01:06:10.380 up my eyes

01:06:11.160 so it's it's

01:06:14.120 kind of directly

01:06:14.920 going against

01:06:16.280 the born again

01:06:17.320 myth maybe I'm

01:06:18.760 projecting too much

01:06:19.760 of the George

01:06:21.040 W. Bush era

01:06:21.920 into that song

01:06:23.480 but it's going

01:06:25.180 against it while

01:06:25.900 affirming it

01:06:26.620 and it's a song

01:06:29.100 about transformation

01:06:29.940 and it's quite

01:06:30.940 good I kind of

01:06:31.700 can't believe it's

01:06:32.480 not on the album

01:06:33.140 new born for the first time

01:06:40.140 newborn for the first time

01:06:45.140 newborn for the first time

01:06:58.840 I'm not born again

01:07:02.680 I have never lived at all

01:07:07.680 I've opened up my eyes

01:07:13.880 Now I hear the world talking

01:07:18.620 Opened up my eyes

01:07:23.400 I've just started walking

01:07:27.560 I've just started walking

01:07:37.680 Did you see them around this time?

01:07:43.080 2005?

01:07:44.680 Yes

01:07:45.080 I saw them in concert in DC, I believe

01:07:55.800 Anything memorable about it?

01:08:01.340 Nothing terribly memorable

01:08:03.580 I saw them in Madison Square Garden

01:08:07.160 For the Songs of the Universe

01:08:08.640 And I've seen them a number of places since

01:08:15.440 I saw them in Washington DC again

01:08:17.180 After Spirit

01:08:18.320 And I remember that as a great concert

01:08:20.140 And in Chicago, I saw them twice

01:08:21.640 And I really liked the Vegas concert

01:08:25.540 That I went to

01:08:26.320 I thought this was

01:08:28.560 Maybe it's just fresh in my mind

01:08:30.740 But I thought this was one of the best concerts

01:08:33.340 Yeah, they have incredible energy

01:08:37.780 I have to say

01:08:38.820 For their age

01:08:40.440 Yeah, I think they were

01:08:44.140 I think they were getting better

01:08:46.080 And I remember also

01:08:49.840 With Sounds of the Universe

01:08:50.720 They were kind of diving into the 90s

01:08:52.620 A lot as well

01:08:53.960 And doing a lot of ultra

01:08:58.620 And so they've always kind of done

01:09:03.280 The full 40 years

01:09:04.540 I mean, I think that's pretty remarkable about them

01:09:07.240 Gary

01:09:13.120 A jolly river lady put him in an airplane

01:09:17.440 Took him up to the highstop

01:09:21.980 We'll be right back.

01:09:51.980 We'll be right back.

01:10:21.980 We'll be right back.

01:10:51.980 We'll be right back.

01:11:21.980 We'll be right back.

01:11:51.980 We'll be right back.

01:12:21.980 We'll be right back.

RadixJournal - February 01, 2024

Depeche Mode： Playing the Angel

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