In the Eye of the Beholder
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the scandal surrounding a French journalist who transitioned from female to male, and the implications of a teacher who seduced a 15 year old to a 16 year old, and then a 25 year old teacher who had sex with her former student when they were in high school.
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oh brigitte gate no what's happening with brigitte gate supposedly there's no uh there's no evidence
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that uh brigitte macron existed before she was 30 years old and uh there's supposedly
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uh she transitioned at the age of 30 and was previously jean luke are you serious
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candace owens has a tweet about it right now of course she does okay so i saw someone tweet about
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this and they they were showing her face and um saying oh she looks like a man one thing that i've
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noticed i mean this has been like a long-term trend on social media is is this like weird speculation
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about liberals about they're they're really men and it's like everyone's a man like taylor swift's a
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man like jennifer aniston's a man it's just becomes bizarre oh my god okay this episode is blowing up
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so i just want to say after looking into this i would stake my entire professional reputation okay
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well that's not very much candace on the fact that brigitte macron is in fact a man any journalist or
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publication that is trying to okay we could watch this yeah i remember seeing this stuff about this
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was like early q anon theorizing in 2010 or so involving michelle obama yeah being a man and i
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think the the whole yeah anyway it seems to be a misunderstanding of like sexual dimorphism and
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africans but anyway let's go this is crazy i'm talking crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy stop everything
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pay attention if you're driving pull over just kidding you don't have to pull over you can keep
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driving but i'm you just prepare yourself for what is happening right now in france so let me give you
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guys the background emmanuel macron is the president of france he is married to brigitte macron okay
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her love story has always been extremely weird and extremely creepy she is 70 years old allegedly
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and he is just 46 years old so already right there you have a 24 year age gap between them
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and at the very least just looking into their love story you're looking at what might be because they
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changed the age throughout the years a story of pedophilia i'll tell you what their official
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narrative has been the official narrative is that when emmanuel was just 15 years old he was a drama
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student at a school and his teacher was brigitte and while he was very young they somehow managed to
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fall in love that would have made brigitte way too old to be falling in love with you know just as an
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aside to to use the word pedophilia to particularly in the context of france to describe like a
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relationship between a teacher and a 15 year old i think is a bit much
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i don't know it's a bit moralizing on her part well i mean look i obviously think that like a
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an adult let's just put let's switch the genders like an adult male who seduces a 15 year old or a 16
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year old or even an 18 year old certainly is his class his student or something absolute like that
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is a no-go jail but then to like equate it with child molesters or something it is just simply wrong
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like it's a different thing and men and women don't play by the same rules when it comes to sex and this
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is just another example of that exactly yeah like trump and melania they have the same age gap but nobody
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really complains about that right because honestly they probably don't need to she's an adult yeah
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and again like i i would also say that again if they let's let's go to the brigitte macron you know
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gender swap i mean it's like if a if some you see this a lot it happens more often than you would
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imagine but like these 25 year old girls who become teachers and they have sex with their 16 year old
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student again obviously firing offense to say the least and probably some jail time should be in
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there but you're making school a a you're disrupting the the whole concept of school and and teaching
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and mentorship and so you're you're really subverting that in a in a very bad way that being said i'm sorry
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the notion that like that 15 year old boy is traumatized for life give me a break i mean i just
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come on he's anyway i don't i won't say any more it's just the fact that we're just calling all of
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this pedophilia it just is seems uh wrong it's like they're separate terms for separate things
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and to associate that with some like wicked person who is abusing children or or i mean i i don't know
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it's just i don't know i won't dwell on this like where was she when i was in high school right yeah
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exactly you're not going to be traumatized now obviously she should be punished legally for that
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neil is safe fired but sure and i probably wouldn't marry her she's not a you know monster yeah yeah like
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these people who who uh absolutely abused traumatized and like physically harm children
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those are fucking monsters that 25 year old teacher is i don't know what to describe her
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slut you know like there are other words that we have in the english language yeah you know but
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nevertheless it does point to a certain kind of ubiquitous decadence in the culture right it is
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bizarre how common it is that yeah orda you have all these women that are sleeping with their
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with their uh students right so it does speak to some kind of general decadence yeah i mean it's not
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it's a rabbi raping a child doubtlessly that's that's obviously true but um it's nevertheless uh
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it's a little sort of unsettling or there's something wrong with the society essentially you know yeah i would
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agree with that i mean look i mean it doesn't look it is like a sort of 1980s like music video fantasy
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i forget where you you sleep with hot for teacher hot for teacher yeah uh and so everyone can
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understand it from a kind of hot-blooded american sort of bacchanal perspective of like yeah a hot
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teacher and and there's something healthy there obviously yeah there is yeah you know in fact we look
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back to those days and say wow that that's relatively healthy right when we look at the days today which
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are relatively sexless and uh porn saturated to the point of yeah sexlessness essentially nevertheless
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it it does point to a problem it points to a symptom that we could say is a relatively mild symptom
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right it's it's not the worst thing that's occurring today um but it is nevertheless very odd and it's
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yeah well also if women in making that sort of women being that sort of sexually aggressive is another
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thing that's sort of interesting about it right yeah well that's what i was about to say like if you
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if you look into some of these stories like if you read the you know go down to paragraph three of some
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of these stories from florida texas or whatever this is happening um you you'll see that like she was
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texting him and that they they started like sharing snapchats and i think there's also something to the
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fact of of like a lot of these girls who are 25 they're they're almost contemporaries with like a 15 year
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old and so they're like oh yeah yeah what's your handle on snapchat or whatever and it's like no
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no no no like that's you know you you can obviously be friendly with students a lot of my teachers were
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very they were kind of fun and and friendly but like you're you're sexting each other i mean like what
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well that's just in some cases you're three years removed from wanting to date the high school
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right like or whatever like they're yeah wait they're three years away from that mentality
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so they're still in that mindset right and now they're a teacher at a college or rather at a high
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school uh so i mean four years i guess would be the appropriate um right ration but then but college has
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some similarity to high school there's athletes and so forth and there's a there's a social hierarchy
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it's less uh depending on how large the school is if it's a large school that's less uh salient
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people find their little groups and whatever but smaller schools it's probably more similar i didn't
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go to a small school but it's probably more similar to high school in a lot of ways so they're still kind
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of in that mindset as these young teachers um so it does seem to naturally follow that they're going to be
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attracted to the popular kids at high school right yeah part of it i guess it's a kind of cliche but
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i think part of it is sort of the porn culture as well so it's there's something um forbidden about
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it right so and a woman showing sexual aggression and so forth uh porn provides a lot of models for that
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right so i think that that could be part of it this also says something about the right-wing media
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ecosystem where they're uh where they you know they're so humorless on this issue and they they're
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they're so quick to condemn and oversimplify it as pedophilia which technically it might be but like
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they just want to see pedophiles everywhere and trannies everywhere they just yeah they're fixated
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on those two things and so it's an unhealthy fascination no doubt all right let's keep going i want to hear
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15 or 14 year old depending on which article you're reading but yes apparently she was just so
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moved from his depth this little boy's depth and the poetry and the way that he would write
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that they fell in love so much so that the now first lady left her then husband despite the fact
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that they had three kids okay so that's the background story nobody cares doesn't matter happened
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so long ago now she's the first lady we should celebrate her uh no some major update now happening
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major major updates let me tell you about how i happened upon this story there was just an
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article that was published in the daily mail here is the headline the proof france's first lady
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wasn't born a man what i was going what so i of course instantly read it because what a bizarre
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thing that you're even needing to present proof that brigitte macron was not born a man and embedded
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within the article they showed two photos and i'm going to show you right now this is the first photo
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this is allegedly brigitte macron when she was a little girl sitting on her mom's lap but when i
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saw this photo the first thing i noticed was that the person on the far left the boy that actually
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looks like brigitte macron i'm taking you guys through my thought process i saw this and i was
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like i'm already getting she might actually be the guy maybe she's a dead ringer for her brother
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but i don't see any resemblance there with the little girl may show the second photo debunking this is
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just ridiculous like um there is actually a really remarkable resemblance between my nephews and like
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my daughter when they're like one and a half or something this is just a candace is just i i think
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this is actually all absurd this is probably just kremlin propaganda to be frank i already got skeptical but
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let me just put that aside and hear her out another young photo allegedly of brigitte macron
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what i thought when i looked at this photo that this looks way too new to be a photo of a 70 year
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old when they were a child now again these are my thought processes when i then read the article
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there was no debunking whatsoever they just were calling people that were saying otherwise far right
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you know all the typical buzzwords far right conspiracy theorists racist sexist it's homophobic
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it's anti-semitism just the thing that we are all now able to immediately look through these names
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don't mean anything anymore and that's interesting she said that actually because she she's now she's
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kind of like equating calling someone far right or a racist with calling them anti-semitic i don't
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think previous conservatives would have done that oh definitely not this makes you want to look
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further into the alleged theory go ahead oh i was just gonna say like the title of this insane this
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is the biggest political scandal in human history i don't know i can think of some others yeah you
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know there's a huge problem here because it's like it's sort of a kind of exaggerated problem of what um
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red red eyes had for example like the production values of daily wire are very professional
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but there's a lack of quality control they just let the schizos get on there because honestly some
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of the stuff candace owens has done i think is sort of brave and like cool but there's she doesn't
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have a producer saying okay this is bad shit this is bad shit this is legit yeah right and that's
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the problem with a lot of these uh demagogues you know and i would i would include for example
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nick fuentes you know as much as we may have a kind of affection for nick fuentes like
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he could really benefit for like a producer who's like saying okay this is great stuff this is
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great don't go there that's bullshit you know i mean yeah it's content control it's being an editor
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yeah yeah right i mean and i think that the and you know just the credibility is suffering here is the
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problem there needs to be kind of more nuance and then they can start persuading intelligent
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people yeah of course i understand they're not going to do it no i i don't think they feel but
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maybe kind of maybe the next evolution of them will do because i think what i'm seeing is the
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problem is that you again you have these content creators who are basically kind of i mean uh candace
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owen is like off the leash right in in some ways we love it because we're like oh okay great yeah
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she's going after rabbi schmuley or whatever yeah but on another level it's just like it's just
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half the shit she's saying is just bullshit or is just invented or fabricated
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yeah right but that's it's the credibility of the good stuff that she's doing yeah but that's
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how these people make their clicks you know candace owens crowder tim pool they just like
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make they look basically they make it up and get their clicks they still which is what i'm saying
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they just need quality control and i think they're lacking it i i agree with alberto on this i i think
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what i've seen over the past five years is this q anon adjacent quality to mainstream conservatives
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where they don't quite use they they often will use the same buzzwords they they're not quite q anon but
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they might as well be in effect and right the someone even like sean hannity is kind of
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outmoded at this point so i mean i obviously agree with what mark's saying like we need quality
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control and i understand everybody's well i understand yeah right so yeah there is this sort
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of populist there's this kind of uh love of conspiracy theories it's popular and even aliens and all this
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kinds of shit uh where people are able to kind of click bait that so yeah i mean this is this is just
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how these people make their living what i'm describing kind of experiment that has not yet occurred
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right so in other words uh daily wire has shown that they have the technical proficiency to like
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create high-end productions right evidently uh so they can show professionalism in the technical realm
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and in the marketing realm and so forth but in terms of the content uh control content generation and
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control uh they've shown themselves lacking so honestly and you're right you're right a lot of this
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stupid shit is popular uh but again the experiment that i'm describing has yet to be run you know and
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i think that if you if you just like took some of the talent like some of the talent they have now
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even uh candace owens you just had a producer basically kind of like rein her in sort out the
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bullshit and sharpened her legitimate arguments then the thing would just be next level you know
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what i'm saying in any case yeah shale oil billionaire fundamentalist wackos from texas fund this whole
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thing so at some point someone should talk to them i think some of these people are just lost i mean i i
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just like you you you can bring a horse to water as they say i i just right i get that but if they
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have so much money they could just they could have another little brand and just experiment with like
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something that's a little more so yeah but something that's radical yet i i obviously agree with what
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you're saying but like the the types of people who do this at the end of the day they're they're like
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trumped up white trash i i just i have to be brutally frank is this you know these is your
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investor appeal no it is my investor appeal because i separate yourself from the jumped up white trash
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yeah it's like it yeah like separate yourself do something actually worthwhile it's i don't think we
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can appeal to these uh folks but anyway let's keep watching and i did and holy smokes so the quote
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unquote conspiracy theory is actually a three-year thorough investigation that was conducted by
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journalists that were working with genealogists it was published in six issues in fair documents i'm
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sorry my french is not that good but they yes they published six issues unpacking what they had
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discovered after a three-year investigation and here is what they are saying right so again i'm going
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to say allegedly this is what they have published their theory is that the first lady brigitte macron
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was actually born jean michel so bridget is actually john michael john michael lived as a man for 30
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years fathered five children okay and then transitioned at the age of 30 to become brigitte
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okay now i'm just going to show you this before and after photo just right here they actually used as
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a part of their investigation chinese software uh and this is a side by side it is such a dead ringer
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it's crazy to me that you would not say that these two individuals look alike this is potentially the
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same individual age so on the left what i'm showing you is john michael on the right is a photo of the
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first lady okay now i will tell you why this has legs and why i'm going to encourage you to read the
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very long document that i read which we will include in the link in bio the first obvious thing the first
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obvious reason that i am very much believing what they have published is because the first lady is
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simply unable to produce any photos of herself throughout the first 30 years of her life
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guys how easy to debunk this if you say candace no actually you lived as a man for 30 years
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i lived for 30 years i'm going to show you every photo of every year that i've lived here's me in
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college right here's me while i was pregnant with my children here's me and my husband on our wedding
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day there would be so many photos that brigitte should have at her disposal if this is false
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they didn't have instagram they won't produce any nope they're just following everybody wrong and
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backwards and transphobic just produce the photos instead the only photos they had produced that are
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circling in the media are the photos that i just showed you and as i said the first photo she looks
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more like the john michael who she claims is actually her brother who she won't just present to the public
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if that is in fact your brother please just go on a walk with him so we can capture it and say ah no
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she just happens to look like her brother here's john michael no john michael has disappeared the
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genealogist just can't find a single trace of john michael since brigitte came into the public space
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at the age of 30. so john michael existed for 30 years according to the genealogist okay and then
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john michael stops existing and brigitte exists but brigitte doesn't exist for the first 30 years okay
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the second photo the one that i said to you looked a little too recent for an alleged 70 year old
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well yeah they were able to debunk that that's actually a photo of her daughter her daughter
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trephane you can see now side by side of course that is her daughter it's a dead ringer for her
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daughter so why would you colorize a photo and make it black and white and try to pass it as yourself
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when it is in fact your daughter i'm sure somebody will say well it wasn't didn't come directly from the
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first lady it is very obvious that they are trying to dissuade the narrative by producing these two
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photos which are easily debunked there's a second reason debunked it just looks a lot like her
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daughter yeah it's called like you look like your children like did they debunk that like forensically
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are they just saying this looks like her daughter this strikes me i am extremely skeptical of this no
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she's just saying oh this looks like her daughter oh we debunked it and by the way all these photos
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that we have seen oh well they're they're fake too for some reason and yeah like you said like people
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just didn't have as many photos uh back you know yeah like my i've seen photos of of my yeah it's it was
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kind of an event when you took a photograph i mean my my mother she was alive and i think my parents
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were married in 1969 or 1968 i can't quite remember but yeah she was she was alive in the 50s it's just
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kind of different this is just bizarre and again you if you want to forensically debunk that photograph
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but just just saying that it's a dead ringer give me a break as i've said they're these kind of
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remarkable things i've noticed it like my um one of my nephews so my my sister's son look like when you
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see photos of him and then of my daughter it's like oh wow look it's it's so there's such a
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striking resemblance it's a dead ringer of course it's not now obviously as they've grown but like
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that's just a completely ridiculous argument anyway say major red flags rather than just producing what
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should be ample evidence of your existence for the first 30 years of your life they're suing yes the
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first lady actually sued two of the journalists that were involved in producing the story brigitte
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macron here's a headline from the telegraph brigitte macron sues women who claimed that she is
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transgender i'd suit something to note is what exactly brigitte is suing for she's suing them for
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violation of privacy and so yeah i don't know how it is in france but this is a difference between the
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the uk and the united states yeah definitely yeah people will sue you for libel and slander
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in the uk uh it doesn't happen in the united states so that i think that's why uh candace owens is so
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surprised that someone would do this right right what is her position on uh michelle obama wasn't
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that a conspiracy theory this is sort of like a an interesting and strange vein of conspiracy theory
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where they think that some guy some woman is really a man and vice versa yes i i have seen
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this on on twitter and if you ever click on one of these tweets you'll get served like more of the
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same for the the next month you have to like actively say please stop like i'm not interested but there is a
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cottage industry of like they'll show some photo of taylor swift like performing on stage and she'll
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like turn around and her crotch area will like kind of vaguely look like there's a penis there but
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there's just you you know plausible explanations like she's turning and it kind of has that or like
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there's a microphone i don't know there's like so many it's like a fold in the fabric or something
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like that exactly that that's the that's the most plausible explanation and they're like look at
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this what do you see here and you know like it's just it is bizarre i think a lot of these people
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we've had social media induced schizophrenia basically oh that's affecting millions of people
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yeah and some people then and maybe this is also its own uh sort of form of schizophrenia but
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people will look at uh candace owens and be like oh yeah well she was doing some good anti-zionist stuff
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and now she's coming up with these sort of strange conspiracy theories that are baseless and crazy
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maybe she's false opposition she's deliberately developed to make the uh kind of anti-zionist
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positions seem schizophrenic right yeah right because you know she may as well be talking about ufos now and
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therefore anti-zionism will be uh connected to ufology and so forth right but again i again that
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might be its own sort of schizophrenia i mean she the simpler explanation might be this chick is just
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kind of generally batshit but gets you know a a broken clock is correct twice a day right in any case
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doesn't candace kind of look like pretty kind of mannish do you like just look at the screen right now
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yeah look at that jawline i mean i'm sorry i mean i don't think i genuinely don't think she's a man
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but it's kind of like maybe you should take a look at yourself in the mirror there all can't just like
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we could start speculating like you know the burden proof is on candace you know she has to prove to me
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that she is not in fact a man where are the pictures of her as a child
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the transsexual uh cries out as as he or she strikes you right yes exactly one of the funniest
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hiding it the adam's apple yeah exactly why are you wearing that drawing one of the funniest
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scenes like 90s comedy was the austin powers scene where um he's like with basil exposition
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which is kind of he's and and like uh he's like welcome austin i'd like to introduce you to my
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mother he's like that's not your mother it's a man man he's punching i don't know pretty hilarious
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scene i guess you had to be there um okay we'll continue rights plus illicit use of her image
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but what does that mean that doesn't mean anything like why don't you say you completely
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lied and i can prove it and i'm going to ruin your entire lives which you would just have to show
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again pictures of your first 30 years of life but no this is really just a tactic to pretend
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as if these journalists didn't produce concrete proof to substantiate their claims now the two
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journalists being sued by the way are amandine roy and natasha ray and they were eventually punished
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with symbolic fines for i guess invading uh the privacy of the first lady it's gonna get even
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crazier though because journalists that worked on this case were also threatened they sent the police
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to threaten them while they were conducting research atasha ray the woman that was punished with a
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symbolic fine as she was conducting research she reached out to somebody to ask some questions
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about the first lady's upbringing the first 30 years of the first lady's life and then what
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happened as she was examining these inconsistencies in the story was the police burst into her home
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on july 13 2021 they then took her into custody without being summoned on the pretext of a complaint
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that was filed by one of the individuals that she had reached out to katherine audoy uh she was then
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released after five hours of tough interrogation with a lesson and you shouldn't be doing this they
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tried to humiliate her they tried to threaten her and of course this only made the public even more
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interested in the story she was also asked to produce a list of journalists with whom she had been in
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contact with the police also seized her phone that is not normal none of this should be happening in a
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story that again would be so easy to debunk they similarly arrested a man named eric verhi another
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journalist working on the story similarly had no charges they just wanted to question him i don't know
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guys you tell me what are you thinking if you're alleging that somebody was a man for the first 30 years
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of their life why go through these efforts when you could just show photos but of course obviously
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to tell a lie this big you'd have to have a very good memory this is actually something that judge
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judy used to say i used to love watching judge judy okay i'll just throw this out there i don't think
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this is necessarily the most plausible explanation um first off the police do question you sometimes like
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you can you can get questioned by the police or the fbi you're not under arrest maybe you shouldn't
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do it because you know anything you say can be held against you all that stuff but that happens and it
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doesn't i don't know um might they be investigating russian influence on promoting a story like this
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just throw it out there i was young with my grandma and she used to say you know if you don't lie you
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don't have to have a good memory but if you lie you got to have a very good memory and what's keep
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what keeps happening throughout the years of her being the first lady so since that's richard that's
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actually a great aphorism now yeah that is actually a great aphorism if you lie yeah great memory yeah
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and we can think of a kind of important example of that 17 and the first lady tells a story about
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herself in her childhood the math doesn't quite math right for example uh she recalled living alone
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in the united states during neil armstrong's moon landing in 1969 the only problem is that
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she would have been just 16 years old uh what 16 year old living alone in the united states
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the first lady is in the united states but if the theory is true that she's actually john michelle
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who is eight years older which would make the first lady 78 years old today that story would make perfect
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sense because of course you could live alone when you are 24 years old in the united states again there
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are multiple examples of the first lady just being too young in terms of the past stories that
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she keeps telling then there is the remarkably strange case of brigitte's alleged ex-husband so
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just to remind you jog your memory the story goes she was married right and at the age of 40 years
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old she fell in love so much so that she left her husband because she just loved this 16 year old or
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15 year old or 14 year old drama student so much she left her husband and her three kids to be with him
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okay so it should be pretty easy to find her ex-husband that she had three kids with
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but it turns out that they can't find that man yeah back when emmanuel macron was elected president
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journalists all over the world international journalists were obviously prying into his
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background and her background and they just could not find this man allegedly his name is andre
00:32:48.640
louis oxier and internationally they they just couldn't locate him allegedly he is a banker or
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was a banker because now they say he died just suddenly died but he was allegedly a banker so it's
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very weird there wouldn't be a trail for journalists to find him in 2017 during the presidential election
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they tried to interview him and it was all their attempts in vain in fact in an article that was
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published in french magazine gala magazine they titled the article as if he had never existed so
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that is in the year that he became president they were just like this other guy doesn't really seem
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to exist it also seems to be the case that every time the press is trying to assist the narrative that he
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did exist they keep accidentally showing photos of other men for example in 2018 france 3 tv produced a
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movie entitled brigitte macron un roman francais and they showed this photo very quickly featuring brigitte
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and her first husband andre louis oxier but it turns out that upon inspection that actually isn't him
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it's actually an old faculty photo because it has been confirmed that brigitte was a teacher obviously
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that's how she fell in love with young student emmanuel and here is the full photo of the faculty
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oopsies we got it wrong again guys when i tell you that there is so much proof to this claim i'm
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not a person that just pushes out these these narratives right i'm not a person that's like
00:34:27.520
come with me and we're going to examine q anon or pizzagate i am telling you that this has legs and you know
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yeah i mean again something mysterious doesn't imply this claim that she's transgender you know i mean i i
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don't know what's going on with her first husband interesting question well but let's let's accept the
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premise though that uh she's a uh that uh macron's wife is a man uh uh it's pretty gross it's crazy
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does macron know what yeah is he the real victim but but also like what ultimately is the sort of
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geopolitical significance of it the issues with france are not that macron his wife is really a man
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those are not the issues with france those are not the issues that europe are struggling with
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right i mean granted it would be grotesque and shocking and right things about macron and it
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would probably darken my opinion of macron but my my opinion of macron right now and i view him
00:35:38.400
politically is mixed anyways right so i'm but i'm critical of him i you know i don't care that the
00:35:44.800
guys like it's already sort of unusual the guy's wife was so much older than him right well yeah it
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just seems coincidental like you said the the politics is what really matters of it and this
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comes out like a day or two after macron's made signals that he might enter into the war in ukraine
00:36:01.200
he might send um material support yeah look macron made some bold statements where he basically said
00:36:11.200
sending troops into ukraine and i i guess in this case he was um talking about french troops and not
00:36:19.920
necessarily bringing nato uh you know in enacting the all for one clause of nato i i presume that but
00:36:28.960
i mean it was a vague yet quite bold statement saying that we should consider this not take it off the table
00:36:36.560
and he actually delayed a meeting recently i saw due to these bold statements now when macron was
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running against jean-marie le pen i don't know if you guys remember the so-called macron leaks
00:36:52.880
but there was forensic analysis done i believe it was done by like a third party but i believe it was
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published by the southern poverty law center now we we can have our opinions about them or opinions
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about them particularly in the past but i don't doubt actually their analysis and the first person to
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use the hashtag macron leaks on twitter was jack sobiac this is someone i've mentioned and i am
00:37:24.720
extremely skeptical of this person he has this background in military intelligence he's
00:37:31.920
naval intelligence in fact and he's uh but a lot of people have said he's been he was run out of there
00:37:38.000
or something very odd person someone who came out of the woodwork and was very very interested in me
00:37:45.040
in 2016 and talking to me and all that kind of stuff and then turned his heels and denounced me the
00:37:50.240
next moment i am highly skeptical of him i've seen a video i could go find it but candace was doing an
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earlier version of a show that she has on the daily wire called candace where she it was almost like
00:38:02.800
she was oprah and she had like a studio audience it was that type of style and she had him on and this was
00:38:11.520
in 2022 um right but right uh following the ukraine invasion and she had him on as her geopol you know
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expert and he was doing all the lines ukraine isn't a real country it's just russia why do we care if we
00:38:29.440
do care we could start world war three do you want to nuke the world over ukraine but all of the like
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the the talking points were uttered and i just found it or also the my favorite is you know
00:38:42.720
there's this huge nazi problem in ukraine and well you know someone's got to do something about it all
00:38:47.760
these nazis running around um you know again all of these things have little kernels of truth they
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might even be kind of like 30 correct or whatever but they're propaganda and she was he was doing that
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with candace and kind of whispering in her ear is my thought so to go back to macron leaks um
00:39:10.160
jack vasobiec claimed that he was on 4chan randomly and he saw this leak of macron's emails
00:39:18.080
so it was just random now there's also forensic evidence that um the person who put that link on
00:39:26.560
4chan was either weave himself or connected to weave now look i can't verify all this forensic stuff i
00:39:34.160
mean i i can i've forgotten my password in fact i'm you know i'm not quite that bad but i i certainly
00:39:40.800
don't do digital forensics but i i'm just going with them on this i don't i don't think they're
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lying and it just makes a lot of sense that weave would be involved in this so they hacked macron's
00:39:53.520
email and lo and behold they put forth all these like you know emails about sex toys and wife swapping
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whatever there was nothing even that surprising for france i guess i guess but it was just throwing
00:40:12.480
shit up against the wall to see if it can stick and again like le pen etc they the the far right
00:40:23.040
populist are at the very least highly sympathetic towards russia and at the very most i mean we can
00:40:30.800
talk about orban today they just wanted to fund the war immediately so they're they're on russia's side
00:40:36.960
and they might very well benefit um from this you remember in tucker's unbearable interview with
00:40:45.120
vladimir putin there was this weird situation where he said where vladimir putin mentioned that
00:40:50.480
hungary has some claims in ukraine and um tucker asked him well are would hungary get some of these
00:40:58.560
territories and he was like oh i don't know i've never talked about this book it's just an odd moment
00:41:04.400
and today or yesterday it was revealed that when orban visited mar-a-lago he was talking about trump's
00:41:14.240
bid to end the war and it was basically to totally defund ukraine so that ukraine would just have to
00:41:20.880
capitulate out of the necessity of surviving and um that was his secret plan to end the war basically
00:41:29.600
now i think a lot of the world leaders are kind of reacting to this and uh europe might be stepping up
00:41:35.360
macron might be making some bold statements so there's some weird tensions and all of you know the
00:41:43.200
fact that this all this might have been happening the research might have been going on in 2021 and
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22 and i'll i'll even grant just for the sake of argument that there's some kind of mystery involved
00:41:55.120
of like you know who is she where's her husband you know okay i don't know but the fact that this is
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all coming right now and the fact that it presses the hottest hot button of these conservatives which is
00:42:08.960
chicks with dicks basically i don't know i don't have any evidence to suggest this but just on a kind
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of cuibona reasoning and just my kind of gut sense this strikes me as russian propaganda to be honest