00:00:00.000Now we're at this place where we have an administration, I call them a regime, I think it's fair, I'll call the Iranians, that's an Islamic regime.
00:00:08.640We have some kind of weird Trump mafia regime of some sort.
00:00:12.320But this regime basically didn't even go through the process of trying to lie to the American people to engage us for a year, to try to go to Congress, to make the case, let alone go to European NATO allies and say, we're going to do this.
00:00:29.600We need a coalition of the willing and all of that.
00:00:32.820So this is a very stunning moment from just an American perspective.
00:00:37.160I feel trashed in a way of, oh, I'm not even worth lying to at this point in terms of this current regime.
00:00:44.080You know, we're like, who's going to be my next wife kind of thing.
00:00:51.820So there is this aspect that is overthrowing even the sort of the visage of rules and norms, because obviously the whole Iraq war fiasco was not actually them being honest with the American people or being honest with Congress.
00:01:07.160Congress, the intelligence was manufactured out of Douglas Feith's OSP office, Office of Special
00:01:14.100Plans in the Pentagon, Dick Cheney and David Wormser in the vice president's office, and then
00:01:19.940in Ariel Sharon. So in Israel, basically manufactured the intelligence. But at least
00:01:25.260they went through the motions. They went through the motions in The New York Times with Judith
00:01:29.320Miller being feeding all of this. Well, they here and I'll praise neoconservatives. At least they
00:01:34.880took some degree of responsibility for their actions in the sense of you break it you own it
00:01:43.160that was a cliche from back in the day in the sense that nation building which gets this horrible
00:01:50.040name a regime change wars etc we're all against those things we've all learned the lessons no
00:01:57.780you haven't learned any lesson because what you're doing now is smashing it and leaving it in the
00:02:03.960antique shop or something i don't even know that there seems to be no zero idealism i actually saw
00:02:10.440a clip before we went on with steve bannon and i believe eric bowler formerly of fox news and they
00:02:17.160were just palling around at cpac and they're saying we're not gonna do any of these regime
00:02:21.800change wars we're just gonna bomb them and then take their oil and force a deal on them or things
00:02:28.480like that and i we don't we're not going to send our soldiers until the arab royal sheiks send
00:02:33.680their sons and daughters to die blah blah blah but it's okay i agree with you but like at least
00:02:41.240the neocons thought that we had some level of responsibility i think they genuinely believed
00:02:47.620their own ideology they thought we had some level of responsibility for the people who lived there
00:02:53.560and a responsibility to world history, the geist itself,
00:02:57.720in order to build a parliamentary democracy there.
00:03:01.220Whereas it seems like with Trump, we're at war,
00:03:04.720we're going to kill them all, regime change.
00:03:48.280Whatever problems you might have with that, at least it was a sort of solution to this impasse of we don't fully trust you, you're a sort of different type regime, we don't want you to have a nuclear weapon, and so we're going to work with you so that we can grow together and parallel in the future.
00:04:13.920I think that the critics of the Obama's Iranian nuclear deal, of whom Donald Trump was the number one critic, the worst deal in history, in effect, were afraid that deal might work too well, that maybe they will take the money and not fill the bomb.
00:04:35.180Have you ever thought of that? They wanted to get rid of the deal so that there would be at least movement on the Iranian side to generate a nuclear weapon because they would be again treated as a totally rogue state, not just a somewhat rogue state that the Obama administration treated them.
00:04:56.700And they're saying we need a nuclear bomb just for our survival.