RadixJournal - August 13, 2026


Super Liberals

Topics
working class definition debate DSA endorsement and 2016 election vote
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Richard Spencer
Mentioned
Donald Trump Sam Harris Nick Fuentes Hillary Clinton Zoran Mamdani LeBron James Taylor Swift Francesca Hong Abdul El-Sayed David Remnick Hassan Piker Emma Viglund Joe Biden Gen Z Marxists Tucker Marx
Revelation 20-22 Darren Aronofsky： Caught Stealing (2025)

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5,226

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00:00:00 new yorker and david remnick interviewed this woman um this sort of giant chungus of a woman
00:00:07 who's some major figure in the dsa and she really gets at this but i'll just sort of give you my
00:00:13 take after listening to this entire interview i was kind of mesmerized by it to be honest because 0.82
00:00:20 the woman is just so wrong and annoying that i just couldn't stop watching in this weird way but 1.00
00:00:30 i think they got one-shotted there are millennials who got one-shotted
00:00:37 during the trump era and covid and they genuinely lost faith in the democrats the democrats
00:00:47 aren't going to fight against trump and they're not even real opposition against trump which is
00:00:53 as sort of maybe a fair opinion and they got one-shotted by wokeness to some degree and
00:01:01 critical race theory and systemic racism and the fact that trans are the have been oppressed since
00:01:08 the stone age blah blah they got one-shotted by all this stuff they started to see the democrats
00:01:14 as a faulty institution and so they went into this new realm where you can quote marks and you can 0.59
00:01:21 talk about controlling the means of production and you can be in favor of russia and china
00:01:27 and you can say some edgy stuff about workers revolting and the streets running with blood
00:01:36 etc can't really say that with your democratic colleagues you can say that here the other thing
00:01:44 that i've learned by listening to this is that
00:01:50 you know i've said this before how the dsa isn't properly marxist and granted this woman is a
00:01:56 little more marxist than i would have imagined but i i think what they are is truly democratic
00:02:06 almost in a way that is intolerable and absurd they really want to have a committee meeting
00:02:15 to determine what we're going to have for dinner tonight or what paint color you should use on the
00:02:24 tables in a factory they want to democratize everything and on some ways have no ideology
00:02:31 outside of what the people want that is the people involved in this clique of democratic
00:02:38 socialists coming up with stuff they just they don't know what's right and they want to like
00:02:44 go on they want to listen to all the people in their group and oh i see i see listen to the
00:02:51 working class um so that's what they are and i you know it's let me go before i go to this interview
00:03:01 let's just listen to this woke one comment by uh aoc because i i do think that
00:03:11 some sort of dsa thing is going to replace what we called woke i think woke is dead it's actually
00:03:20 been dead for a little while. Here we go. What? Why isn't this going? Let me just re.
00:03:38 The abolish prisons, abolish police, which is also positions that have been taken by a lot of
00:03:43 the progressive candidates who have won. How do you get around that? These are not positions that
00:03:49 supported by right I mean I think that a lot of these races even right now
00:03:55 they'll have a tendency to be nationalized yeah but these races
00:04:01 ultimately are local and all politics are local my understanding is that is is
00:04:08 that Francesca Hong has made clear her present stances to her yeah I mean it's
00:04:16 she's like searching for something to say the first thing she says is like why are you quoting
00:04:22 my tweets which sort of is a fair opinion but like you know you're tweeting about how thanksgiving is
00:04:30 an expression of white supremacy i mean kind of is in a way but i i do you understand how that's
00:04:36 a bad look and so she's like don't report on these local races it is a you know for the governorship 0.56
00:04:43 of wisconsin i think also even mandami to some level was a reaction against wokeness
00:04:51 and in the sense that a lot of that stuff about trans kids was getting super cringe
00:04:59 to put it mildly and so they decided to go in this direction of just 0.98
00:05:05 you know admirably i guess like we're just gonna do shit for you right now like we are going to
00:05:11 just physically lower the cost of your groceries. We will actually give you childcare whenever you
00:05:17 need it. We will just pay you basically. And, you know, in some ways, that is probably a better
00:05:26 strategy than navel gazing in the way that wokesters were prone to. But let's listen to 1.00
00:05:33 little more here away from it and i have a local city councilman that has this uh uh saying woke
00:05:42 one was crazy it was crazy okay that's uh and i think i did okay uh that's all very funny um people
00:05:54 have found the woke one tweet and the guy who was tweeting it was reacting to that video that most
00:06:02 like you've all seen where some Indian woman is like being interviewed on the subway and some
00:06:07 you know with like the subway card is the mic and they're like yeah white people shouldn't be able 0.80
00:06:11 to sit on their stoop in Brooklyn it's a black neighborhood no ban white people from Brooklyn 0.88
00:06:16 they're like woke one was crazy but they're not really as millions of people have pointed out
00:06:23 they're not being reflective about this at all apparently slavery happened yesterday but woke
00:06:29 woke one happened in the ancient world this is the way they think and they don't want to say
00:06:35 they're sorry even they don't want to reflect on their problems or be self-critical they just want
00:06:39 to be like oh it was crazy but why should we believe that you're not going to indulge in
00:06:45 something else crazy next week these are all fair fair points but i do think that they're moving
00:06:54 off woke one um due to a lot of criticism due to the fact that time passage of time things get
00:07:03 cringe after a while but i think if there is a woke too and i i retweeted basil saying this and i
00:07:11 fully agree if there is a woke too i think it will be left-wing whites calling black democrats
00:07:23 the n-word because they still support israel like it's going to be very nasty and i think they are
00:07:33 going to defense straight trans to a very large degree if not entirely i think they're going to 0.63
00:07:41 just de-emphasize a lot of talk of white supremacy and so on uh and i think they're going to they
00:07:50 might even de-emphasize talk about trump and instead it will be we're going to give you
00:07:57 groceries but also we are going to fiercely denounce israel and support gaza 100 to the
00:08:05 point that that is just an outright litmus test and that's going to create new distinctions
00:08:11 between who's a friend and who's an enemy for them so it's very interesting but i do think
00:08:17 that that's what woke too is it's dark woke is it worse american center yeah it is crazy like 0.70
00:08:26 all the leftists think like israel is like the death star it's like the the capital of racism
00:08:32 and if you defeat israel then racism in the united states is going to disappear it's like
00:08:36 they kind of have that mindset a lot of normies have begun to think this way
00:08:42 it's not just leftists certainly a lot on the right think this way for years
00:08:45 um it's pretty fascinating actually um i i you know i saw someone tweeting out against me
00:08:55 like apollo chuds are now pro-zionist i don't know maybe it wasn't entirely about me but i
00:09:02 i mean i i do think that i have moderated and you know look i've been anti-zionist or or un-zionist
00:09:15 for basically my entire life and career.
00:09:19 I've never been a Zionist.
00:09:21 I've never resonated with the idea
00:09:24 of building a Jewish homeland in the Middle East.
00:09:28 I've never resonated with any of the justifications for it.
00:09:33 So, and I, that holds to this day, 1.00
00:09:38 but I feel like it's almost like Palestinians 0.99
00:09:43 have are serving the function that blacks have for liberals for some time that is the uncriticizable 0.97
00:09:52 most wonderful victim group there is and I just find that rather ridiculous and I do find that 0.99
00:10:05 if you want to engage in some sort of third worldist coalition on behalf of Gazans that 0.91
00:10:12 you are going to allow so many trojan horses through the gate you are going to have to embrace
00:10:18 so many bad opinions that it is just not even close to being worth it now i'm not also recommending
00:10:27 that we link up with the hardcore israelis or the zionist but i am just saying that we should go our
00:10:34 own way nick fuentes is saying this now although to be a little critical of nick fuentes he was
00:10:40 the one pushing this before it was cool. I think we should also just come to terms with this
00:10:48 reality, which is that not only the left, but normies have been one-shotted about Israel to a
00:10:57 degree that I'm at a loss for words. They went from zero to 88 on the Israel question
00:11:10 in like six months, and I don't think they can see straight due to that fact. And I think
00:11:20 it's sort of a problem, actually. Let's watch a little bit of this interview.
00:11:34 Okay, just first off, the face. I mean, wow.
00:11:41 It really does give human resource manager or second grade principal
00:11:51 i don't know wow okay let's go megan let's start with first principles
00:12:01 what to your mind is democratic socialism yeah so just very simply it is people having a democratic
00:12:08 say-so in all of the things that they need to survive so democratic control of their workplace
00:12:13 democratic control of their housing and democracy in what we already know as democracy in the
00:12:18 in the political process okay as i said they want democracy everywhere i can't imagine
00:12:25 something worse than like turning all aspects of life into a committee meeting just saying
00:12:33 i mad max you can jump in here yeah i just had a quick comment if you've ever had any type of
00:12:40 shitty job like i moved furniture for a summer between semesters no no no you the last thing 0.83
00:12:47 you would want is your co-workers having a say over how everything is run like imagine all the 0.99
00:12:56 parole like shitheads running the place you have to work in yes i mean we live in a representative 0.97
00:13:06 democracy in the sense that you elect someone and then they've got two four maybe six years to get 0.99
00:13:14 or done. And how they represent you is sort of a philosophical question. Should they go and put
00:13:22 everything to a vote constantly? Well, isn't that sort of defeating the whole purpose of being a
00:13:28 representative? Maybe you should represent the best aspects of your community or state or nation.
00:13:36 And maybe you have to disagree with your voters in order to do that. I mean,
00:13:41 How you see representation is sort of up to you, but I just, I don't know. I've never really believed in democracy on multiple levels. First off, I don't believe that we're in a democracy.
00:13:57 say we do have representation as I've just said but we also have lobbying groups and billions of
00:14:06 dollars floating around and institutions the CIA the military being obvious examples where they
00:14:16 must in fact keep secrets you can't handle the truth you don't know what is best for you you
00:14:24 don't want to know what we did to keep you safe um I I guess have a bit of the authoritarian
00:14:33 personality in the sense that I give my consent to all of those things
00:14:43 um I won't ask too many questions about their methods when it comes to a whole heck of a lot
00:14:50 in terms of law enforcement and geopolitics etc that's just who I am um I I accept that but I also
00:15:00 don't believe in democracy in the sense that democracy is the best outcome you know it is 0.98
00:15:07 sort of like a kind of nihilistic view like it's just people voting on shit you know like is the 0.95
00:15:15 top the number one song on the billboard chart that has been voted for with money and radio 0.97
00:15:22 plays is that the greatest music do you think beethoven's ninth symphony would be number one
00:15:29 on the billboard chart or do you think actually democracy tells us something different it maybe 0.99
00:15:35 tells us perhaps it's more likely to tell us the levels of stupidity of a work of art 0.97
00:15:41 than the levels of erudition or greatness in a work of art just saying i i don't believe in 0.90
00:15:49 democracy in any way i i have a sort of cynical understanding of the world we live in the
00:15:54 democracy that we live in but i don't think democracy would create good outcomes and yeah as
00:16:01 as the saying goes you know um what is the saying ben franklin a democracy is that two wolves
00:16:09 decide how they're going to divvy up the lamb they just what what is doing i'm misquoting it
00:16:17 here but it was something to that effect does anyone know it okay well just take my word for
00:16:24 it um what is it oh someone tried to speak but um someone can look it up if you want to
00:16:35 Can you hear me?
00:16:36 Yeah, you're going in and out.
00:16:39 Yeah, you're going in and out.
00:16:41 Oh, one second. 0.73
00:16:45 Democracy could be thought of as the tyranny of the 51% over the 49%.
00:16:51 You have some legitimacy through a democratic process. 0.93
00:16:56 Does that mean that you can hang the 49%? 0.87
00:17:00 Does that mean that the 49% is wrong? 0.81
00:17:05 Do you have power over the, do you have justified, really, truly justified power over the 49%? 0.69
00:17:11 There are many criticisms of democracy that this woman does not believe in. 0.70
00:17:16 Okay. 0.99
00:17:17 It's two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
00:17:23 That's much better than what I said, yes.
00:17:25 Yes.
00:17:28 Two wolves.
00:17:30 Okay.
00:17:30 Okay, basically, the wolves aren't going to be eaten for dinner is sort of the outcome of that situation. Felix, do you want to jump in?
00:17:40 yeah i actually wanted to add a tidbit that if you say that the that the united states is a
00:17:47 democracy on the immigration test you fail you're supposed to say that it's the constitutional
00:17:53 republic which is kind of a bit conservatory but i do feel like this entire like democratic
00:18:00 socialist vibe it really reeks of millennialism where just democracy equals good making things
00:18:09 more democratic make means making them more good like this woman i actually wonder if she has 0.50
00:18:15 children or a family but she's she proposed making a family democratic which is an even 1.00
00:18:20 more absurd proposal right any parent would tell you yes exactly do you really want to have the
00:18:27 army be democratic like i i it's just we could go through example after it's obvious you know
00:18:35 Yeah, I do think that I do agree with you. And I think I just said, like, said this, like, I think the DSA, which now apparently makes up 30% of the Democratic Party or someone clear, there's some remarkably high number. First off, they have like 120,000 dues paying members. And so that's money over the barrel every month, or every year, presumably, and a lot.
00:19:02 and they also have um they take donations and so on like they are sitting pretty right now
00:19:10 and they maybe that's the approval rating or maybe that there was some sort of question like how do
00:19:16 you identify as a democrat do a democrat as a democratic socialist it's quite high and it's
00:19:22 even higher among young people um so this is a real phenomenon and i do think it is like
00:19:30 one-shotted millennials, basically, who went through this 2016 through COVID period and
00:19:38 they came out as this.
00:19:41 Okay. So that proposes about a million questions. What does democracy in the workplace mean? Does
00:19:49 everybody get to vote on what we're going to do today, tomorrow, and the next day?
00:19:52 The way we look at it is mostly probably pretty similar to how a unionized workplace would work
00:19:57 today. You get to collectively decide with your co-workers what demands you want to make of your
00:20:02 boss, what your schedule looks like, what your working environment looks like, and negotiate
00:20:09 collectively with whoever the boss is. Okay, but that sounds like simple unionization, which we
00:20:15 already have, even though unions are not in the best spot they've ever been in this country.
00:20:19 That's true. So we'd like to see everybody have a union. Right now, it's quite low. It's in the
00:20:25 teens, I think, percentage of unionized workplaces. We think everybody should have a union of some
00:20:31 sort. And what does it mean for the larger economics of a country? For example, Google
00:20:38 or Apple or the biggest corporations in the country, are they no longer privately owned
00:20:44 under democratic socialism? Well, that's a good question. And we specifically say that the
00:20:51 industries that um that you need right so so your necessary industries so power um i would say that
00:21:00 the internet is is a necessity at this point you can't really function without it um water things
00:21:06 things like this a lot of these things are public in some places right um we want them public
00:21:10 everywhere do you believe in the owning isn't it interesting that food is not nationalized like
00:21:17 doesn't that sort of tell you something i mean food is regulated by the government unquestionably
00:21:25 uh but it's it's not nationalized by the government yet we have cheap eats everywhere
00:21:32 you know if if that if there is a necessity in that like
00:21:37 pyramid of needs like food is foundational uh american center
00:21:43 yeah i was gonna say it's like sorry i was gonna say it's like an attack on popular kids almost
00:21:52 you know it's all these high schoolers saying you know why don't we all decide what we want
00:21:56 for lunch you know it doesn't have to just be like the the cheer captain or not not the cheer
00:22:01 captain but the football captain you know let's all decide what we want yes i i think there is a
00:22:08 a deep embedded resentment in this like people power type thing because it's actually an 80 20
00:22:15 rule or a 98 2 rule in terms of who actually determines culture and society um means of
00:22:24 production as the marxists used to say but she said the internet is a necessity of life and
00:22:32 who can disagree with her exactly but i mean do they actually want to nationalize google
00:22:42 you can just go to a library you know for free yeah definitely so but i mean i don't know it's
00:22:49 like they they also seem to always be afraid of their shadow like they're these other these other
00:22:55 um interviews where they're like abolish the police or abolish prisons defund the police like
00:23:01 do you believe that they're like what we know right now is that like they never want to just
00:23:05 say yes like if a tanky would be like yeah we're we're seizing apple i kind of respect that more
00:23:16 than this like wishy-washy business going on i mean just say it if that's what you want
00:23:24 i do yeah yeah but you speak for whom well i i speak for the democratic socialists of america
00:23:31 and and i think that you will find uh the the demand long term uh for for the working class
00:23:39 to be in in charge of the means of production is one that is pretty universally held again
00:23:44 it's not even the people it's the working class in charge of google i mean okay
00:23:51 no trying to flip a switch so that everything changes tomorrow we're we're thinking about
00:23:56 ways you can incrementally uh you know make life better for starters but also um shift the balance
00:24:04 of power from the billionaire class to the working class so this is a kind of fabian strategy now
00:24:10 a real marxist thinks in terms of cataclysmic changes there are these deep contradictions that
00:24:19 work themselves out and it might not even it might not necessarily be a political revolution but it's 0.59
00:24:26 some sort of tumult the democratic socialist i guess they can't help but being smirking millennials
00:24:34 or something like uh uh actually this will make life better um they just want to improve things
00:24:43 but don't you think that that's just smoothing the rough edges of capitalism do you think that
00:24:50 we are more likely or less likely to to move to a stage of socialism and then communism
00:24:58 if you improve capitalism it's an interesting question a non-rhetorical question i don't
00:25:03 i don't know but i would i don't know for certain but i would tend to say that most likely the
00:25:10 The impoverishment and immiserization, if I pronounce that correctly, of the working 0.81
00:25:17 class is more likely to create a revolt, just saying. 0.73
00:25:23 Okay, so what is the difference between democratic socialism and what exists in a lot of Europe,
00:25:29 which I would call social democracy, which is to say a greater emphasis and maybe a higher
00:25:35 higher tax rate in order to have things like what we would call Medicare for all or single payer
00:25:41 or either free or radically less expensive higher education. And I think, and I'm going to take a
00:25:49 wild guess here, if you were using that vocabulary instead of the socialism category, you might have
00:25:56 more adherence. Yes, maybe. But the reality is that we do not think that we're not fighting for
00:26:04 a kinder, gentler capitalism. We think that a democracy that's really controlled by the working
00:26:09 class is the ultimate goal. When you say we, it is kind of crazy that they're like this. I mean, 1.00
00:26:16 this is getting that distinction I made earlier. They just want the working class in charge of 1.00
00:26:22 Google. When you say we, how has that stance arrived upon? Who's we? That's a great question
00:26:32 and one that I love to talk about. So DSA is fundamentally and sometimes excruciatingly
00:26:41 democratic. The highest decision-making body of the Democratic Socialists of America is our
00:26:46 convention. It happens every two years. Chapters elect delegates. We come together, vote on a
00:26:50 bunch of proposals that may or may not shift our overall strategies or our overall stances on some
00:26:57 things. And this is, these are representatives from a base of how many people? Well, right now,
00:27:02 I think we're at 129,000 people. But we have grown significantly since Zoran Mamdani's election,
00:27:10 which came after our last convention. And then we're seeing a growth spurt recently with the
00:27:15 recent congressional primary wins as well. It's very interesting to me that maybe the
00:27:20 highest profile political race that we're now seeing nationally for the midterm elections
00:27:26 on the left is the ascent in the state of Michigan. If Abdul El-Sayed, who when I asked
00:27:34 him about democratic socialism said, no, no, no, no, I'm a capitalist. Disappointed?
00:27:40 He's not a DSA candidate. If he was a DSA candidate, I would absolutely be disappointed.
00:27:44 But I'm glad that there is a movement sort of across the board of people taking on some of
00:27:50 these policies, because I do think they will improve life for the working class.
00:27:55 What is the working class in this country? Because Zoran Mamdani, mayor of New York, just gave an interview, I believe, to the New York Times, and he was asked, please define the working class. And he said, anybody making under a million dollars a year, which I got to tell you was news to me.
00:28:09 Yeah, that is not how I would define the working class.
00:28:13 How would you define it?
00:28:13 so so we're coming out of a socialist tradition where class is defined based on your relationship
00:28:21 to capital and so the working class is essentially people who make a paycheck so if i'm a dentist i
00:28:28 can't be working class well it depends are you a dentist who is working for a corporation and
00:28:34 selling your labor and getting paid hourly or are you a dentist who owns your uh dental practice it
00:28:39 does get fuzzy around that edges it gets it you know there's a lot of socialist theory happening
00:28:43 right now about gig work and how these sort of like technically a gig worker works for themselves,
00:28:47 but they're obviously not really the ownership class. So there's definitely a hot topic of
00:28:54 debate. But but the simple definition is, do you make a paycheck or do you make money off other
00:29:00 people working for you or renting a place that you own? Are you making the money from the?
00:29:05 So they just sort of hate bosses and landlords. And I get it, you know, but to form an ideology
00:29:12 on that seems rather strange. And they're just these obvious exceptions that I don't think
00:29:20 earlier Marxists would have thought of. I mean, I remember at one point, Emma Viglin was defending
00:29:26 Hassan Piker, who was saying that LeBron James is a member of the working class because he has to
00:29:33 face off against capital and, you know, negotiate and define terms and so on. I mean, first off,
00:29:41 saying anyone who's paid I don't even know what his salary is I would I would just guess like 30
00:29:48 to 50 million dollars a year to say that they're working class is just absurd I mean obviously 0.97
00:29:54 Marx is talking about a proletariat it wasn't the entirety of poor people there's the lumpen 0.76
00:30:01 trolls too it was people directly engaged in the alienating experience of wage labor
00:30:09 um first and and i should also add on the lebron james question that he's actually an investor in
00:30:18 the fenway group so he owns a little piece of the boston red socks and the what is uh some of those
00:30:27 other soccer teams the pittsburgh penguins at one point anyway uh so he is not a laborer and it's
00:30:34 just absurd to talk in those ways so what you have is like you know we like people like Taylor
00:30:40 Swift or LeBron James because they're cool so they're like us Taylor Swift's just selling her
00:30:45 art she's not a cat it's just it's like the categories don't work anymore and thus you're
00:30:54 just making unprincipled exceptions for people you think are cool and that's just not serious
00:31:00 the gig worker thing is actually a very important question the the dentist who owns his practice and
00:31:06 is struggling to make 50 grand a year is that not a if he's not working class then who is
00:31:14 you know um i could go on the graphic designer who's being destroyed by ai but he sort of is a
00:31:23 capitalist on some level he owns his capital he works for himself all interesting questions
00:31:31 it workers are working class though they work for google earned 200 000 a year but that's
00:31:38 that's supposedly a dsa electorate right it's odd we could go on and on i just don't think
00:31:46 these categories work anymore. And I don't have an answer for what would work, but I'm also not
00:31:55 a DSA member, so I don't owe them an answer. Pay off of your capital investments. Are you
00:32:00 making it because you sell your labor? So let's dig down a little bit here. The DSA refused to
00:32:05 endorse Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump in 2016. You happy about that decision? I think it would
00:32:12 have hurt our credibility a bit as people who are actually standing for socialism and against
00:32:16 neoliberalism. Yeah. But on the other hand, you let an authoritarian through the door. I mean,
00:32:22 I'm not blaming you specifically. A lot of factors went into it. Yeah. Did you stay home in 2016?
00:32:28 I didn't. No. You voted. I voted for Hillary Clinton and I voted for Joe Biden in 2020.
00:32:33 So why did you do that against the recommendation of the organization?
00:32:36 Well, I wasn't a DSA member in 2016, first of all. But I do believe in a harm reduction vote,
00:32:44 But I don't think that the couple hundred thousand socialists are the ones who swung that vote.
00:32:48 It's the millions of people who stayed home because all they were being offered was kind of a rainbow flag painted version of the same thing.
00:32:56 Well, in fairness, millions of people stay home every election.
00:32:59 I mean, it's a sort of shame.
00:33:00 And we think that's a huge problem.
00:33:02 We a big part of our strategy is trying to engage people who do not vote regularly, who do feel disenfranchised by the system in general.
00:33:10 Kamala Harris versus Donald Trump.
00:33:13 No endorsement.
00:33:15 Yeah.
00:33:15 You agreed with that?
00:33:17 Yeah, I voted on that statement.
00:33:19 I was a member of the National Political Committee.
00:33:20 Tell me about your rationale.
00:33:22 Most DSA members, I think, certainly in swing states, voted for Kamala Harris, I believe.
00:33:29 I'm just going to pause this right here.
00:33:31 This reminds me of something else I put on the scratch pad.
00:33:36 I think this is the scratch pad.
00:33:40 Oh, no, this is not.
00:33:41 This is it.
00:33:42 Okay.
00:33:42 Let me just find it because Tucker said something very similar in a way.
00:33:55 I think this is so.
00:33:58 It didn't work.
00:33:58 It didn't matter that you voted.
00:34:01 But it didn't work.
00:34:02 It didn't work.
00:34:04 It didn't matter that you voted for him.
00:34:05 You got the same thing that you were going to get if you voted for Kamala Harris.
00:34:09 Like that's my perspective on it.
00:34:10 Yeah.
00:34:11 And so what does that tell you? It tells you that you're putting your faith in the wrong thing, which is in a political system, whereas there's got to be a real solution that begins with changing people's hearts. That's what I think.
00:34:22 Exactly.
00:34:23 Exactly.
00:34:27 Does anyone honestly believe that elections don't matter?
00:34:34 I mean, I sort of get it on some level, like it's not going to change everything about your life or whatever.
00:34:41 But do you think that we would be at war with Iran right now if Kamala Harris were elected?
00:34:48 And this is some just way of getting around people like myself and like Nick Fuentes and others who were directly telling you that Donald Trump is much more likely to create a war in the Middle East than Biden-Harris.
00:35:10 and in fact things were pushing in that direction we can't be certain about anything but if you go
00:35:17 beyond just bombastic rhetoric about no new wars or whatever and look at interest that that might
00:35:25 very well happen we've discussed this I retweeted all of my tweets where in which I was saying this
00:35:32 But just this, like, we, you know, Trump promised us this, and then he didn't get, like, we just, the Democrats might as well be in charge. No, the Democrats were in charge, this would be very different, actually. I don't believe in democracy, but I'm not this, like, sort of Gen X nihilist who's like, oh, it doesn't matter, nothing matters, man. No, it does actually matter.