00:03:47.420Is he the worst? No, he's not, though. He's not, you know, yeah, there's is he as toxic as like Sarah Silverman or whatever? No, but it's it's kind of worse in a way because it is safe. And, you know, you're almost happy that there's a red coated Trump voting comedian on stage. You're like, oh, you're all good. But it's it's not even cornball. It's not even like family friendly humor, which you can justify like, you know, you play to your audience. Right.
00:04:17.280But it's this, like, safe edgy, as someone said.
00:04:36.040And it's not as good as Jerry Seinfeld, who's a neurotic Jew.1.00
00:04:41.520And that can be funny when you're doing observational humor.0.99
00:04:45.140but just is he even against it i mean i guess he's calling them whores so that implies that0.90
00:04:52.660he's against it but then he's also saying that he's like gawking at them or something so he's
00:04:57.340not even judging these women he's just sort of observing it and the what i was thinking about it
00:05:03.060was that you know when i was growing up in the 90s even something like saturday night live which
00:05:10.420is produced by NBC and is mainstream even that was sort of edgier than the mainstream you know
00:05:19.280people would at least when it came to politics and people would like imitate in real life Dana
00:05:28.280Carvey's impersonation of George Herbert Walker Bush or Bill Clinton or whatever and it was sort
00:05:34.860of edgy and we like saw that as the the source of the edge was snl for millions of people now
00:05:47.440it's like social media is where the edge is and so shane gillis is pandering to right-wing twitter
00:06:00.380or something where people have done much more insightful hilarious outrageous two edgy jokes
00:06:09.820about athleisure and he's just sort of like doing a stolen valor thing he's like stealing that energy
00:06:18.380from social media which can either like harshly judge them from some you know trad cath perspective
00:06:25.340or at least get edgy with it or push the envelope but he doesn't do any of that he's just sort of
00:06:31.440like representing you know right-wing twitter he's like the guy scrolling through twitter and0.92
00:06:38.460being like oh wow they're whores know who it's just the guy's just lame actually and it's not0.81
00:06:48.340funny and then he becomes the avatar of right wing the right wing in america and so you feel0.97
00:06:56.280this need to defend him because his critics are so awful uh part of what makes him oh go ahead0.85
00:07:03.960makes him first sure just quickly part of what makes uh him so pathetic is the expression of0.99
00:07:10.080resentment there and saying like they dress like whores now and then saying like you know oh they0.99
00:07:15.400don't like me or whatever it's it accentuates the patheticness when he describes them in those0.98
00:07:19.800terms and it does yeah it does imitate right-wing twitter the resentment you see there in the
00:07:24.340manosphere and whatnot yeah but he's not even willing to denounce them or something he's getting
00:07:28.920all of this credit for like denouncing them i didn't hear any of that he just used the word0.87
00:07:33.400whore you could have made a funny joke of you know i don't know i i didn't realize that i0.91
00:07:42.660when I went to the gym that I walked in on a porn set and you know you could sort of you could do
00:07:49.420something with it as opposed to nothing and just observing a trend that people have been talking0.98
00:07:55.100about on social media for a decade the guy just sucks to be honest um yeah I have some other0.93
00:08:06.620things to say but uh is that lucy sorry i might need my reading glasses lacy leroy leroy wow my0.91
00:08:14.960eyes are just good god it's sad yeah you are blind well i'm nearsighted but now the the my laptop on
00:08:25.140this little podium is like into the farsightedness point and i can't read leroy yeah yeah your your
00:08:34.560instincts on shane gillis are right on but i i've been following him for a while and his first bit
00:08:42.580was really more like the bully it was kind of like the elitist bully like the prep school bully0.97
00:08:49.200but then he got canceled and i think that's when he pivoted to being like the fat guy bully you0.92
00:08:57.440know that did have he's the guy who gets bullied he's not the bully but that you know he he kind
00:09:04.460of came out initially as kind of the the notre dame football player recruit if you look you know
00:09:12.140look to his he was actually recruited by notre dame i don't know if it was notre dame but he was
00:09:17.920he was recruited he was recruited to play d1 football he changed actually he played at west
00:09:24.040he was recruited west point yeah thank you and he quit like the first week so he he is a jock
00:09:31.860but he's given up the jock and he's now a schlub yes in order because because that was the only way
00:09:42.140he could fit into you know the snl you know he got fired from snl because he he's very influenced
00:09:49.560by adult swim sam he he can't he's essentially like you know snl sam hyde or that's what he
00:09:56.980wanted to be but uh and he's talked to sam um but yeah now he's just instead of being the jock
00:10:05.320you know the linebacker jock he's the yeah he's a chug he's a goon yeah exactly he's he's not0.94
00:10:15.400the bully he's he's the one being bullied and that that just sucks um i'll go through these
00:10:21.240questions then i'll jump into other things i wanted to talk about but uh drake i saw the
00:10:26.880headlines that night this set happened and it said Shane Gillis controversial set and I was
00:10:32.220like okay let me watch it it was like a 10 11 minute set I got five minutes into it and it was
00:10:37.340just this this part you played this was about done at the five minute mark so I got through this and
00:10:43.220I'm like this sucks I'm bored I don't even care what the part is well no no the point was I watched
00:10:49.480that I'm like I guess the controversial parts after this but I don't even care I just can't0.52
00:10:52.820get through this yeah and i found out later oh that is the controversial part so um but he is a
00:10:57.780conservative in the sense that he's five years late on everything yeah definitely he's just he's
00:11:04.640doing stuff that he's read while doom scrolling on social media five years ago and he's like evoking0.98
00:11:11.740it but it's just an ass it's just a an example of stolen valor why don't you go out there and0.93
00:11:18.700rip them a new one so to speak and that at least is something as opposed to observing0.97
00:11:27.040like a phenomenon without commenting on it um jordan do you want to jump in yeah i mean to
00:11:35.540your point ricky gervais kind of i i thought ricky gervais's uh stand-up set or whatever
00:11:42.040at the golden globes when he laid into hollywood like yeah i thought that that was a little like
00:11:47.560i was a little bit over it but that was actually transgressive like that was actually uh like
00:11:53.340uncomfortable for the people in the audience yeah that was awesome like that was actually
00:11:57.400kind of cool that actually kind of took balls to do actually yeah given his position um that was
00:12:03.480what i was going to say about that but i mean if if you like see my content like i'm pretty firmly
00:12:08.700like anti-woman in most cases like i'll just kind of blindly take the guy's side but this one i was
00:12:14.940like i don't know man like i think everybody goes to the gym to kind of be seen like that's kind of
00:12:20.560why you go to the gym instead of like doing bow flex in your garage like it does give you an
00:12:25.700adrenaline rush to like like even as a guy like wearing a tank top because you saw like hey my
00:12:31.560arms look good like i think that's actually kind of a normal thing i think the only thing that he
00:12:37.080pointed out and i don't even know that he knows that he made this point the only kind of good
00:12:41.880point he made was about not being able to look and it kind of like the idea that like that is a
00:12:48.600hypocrisy where you're wearing you're wearing those like pants with the folds or whatever
00:12:54.700and it's like are you looking at me yeah i i agree that's ridiculous well it goes and so on but the0.88
00:13:01.240reason i said that is because that goes a step further and that's actually kind of one of the
00:13:05.640i think legitimate complaints about kind of the modern gender sphere is that you can read all
00:13:11.820these articles from women saying that basically there's no place that's appropriate to ever
00:13:16.040approach a woman you can't approach her at the public park you can't approach her at the library1.00
00:13:19.820you can't approach her at church you can't approach her at the gym and it's like that's a valid point0.98
00:13:24.560but that's not what he's saying he's just saying like the damn shorts are too short he's like the0.97
00:13:29.220boring drunk uncle screaming at the tv because like you could do a riff a comedic riff off what0.99
00:13:35.320you were just saying like humanity will end we cannot talk to women right anywhere and to add1.00
00:13:42.220insult to injury they're dressed you know in bikinis at the gym just to make us feel bad like1.00
00:13:48.080that i'm not saying what i just said is that hilarious but that would be the makings of a0.87
00:13:53.740monologue yeah and that would actually like require some reflection or it would it would uh result in
00:14:01.260some reflection maybe and maybe he would have to reflect but just kind of this like boring like
00:14:06.940did you notice there weren't short shorts at the gym it's like dude i wear short shorts at the gym
00:14:12.400right so everybody does that that's why you go to a gym that's why you wear that top but that's why
00:14:18.600you get better results when you go to a gym where people can see you than working out alone in your
00:14:23.660garage so anyway yeah yeah no i uh i i i wanted to point this out because um
00:14:32.420rfh made a a very good historical point um which is this and again these are the ironies that are
00:14:43.380actually interesting but women the yeah so first off the whole idea of dressing sexy at the gym
00:14:52.000is not in fact new and it the trends go up and down and you know in the 2000s maybe you would
00:15:03.520wear you would go to if you were a cute young educated girl you would go to crossfit and like
00:15:10.680wear high tube socks and maybe a baggy shirt or something but yeah trends fashion trends go up0.94
00:15:18.700and down but yeah women the 80s were at the gym with their asses and coochie out and men just0.99
00:15:24.000thought it was hot men do not actually care that women are dressed like whores they're upset that0.99
00:15:29.660women today feel less sexually accessible and that should not be allowed to dress in a way that is0.89
00:15:35.240sexually enticing because it makes men feel cheated and i do think this is correct and it1.00
00:15:42.060sort of gets at these weird contradictions in society because it's like yeah there's something0.97
00:15:49.260stupid about many of these girls on tiktok being like i you know i'm not objecting myself i just0.78
00:15:56.820dress how i'm comfortable or what and it's like all right give me a break first off that's not0.99
00:16:03.300comfortable like you're more comfortable in sweatpants i mean give me a break this is less
00:16:09.340comfortable and uh i mean you have more range of motion i i i don't buy this you're trying
00:16:17.220to be sexy the gym is is what the drive-in movie theater or this the the fountain you know diner
00:16:27.100was or the dance club was in yesteryear it's now the gym and you dress up to go to the gym gym is
00:16:35.460a place of status anxiety. And it's a place of status aspiration. That's what's happening. And
00:16:43.000that's why all these women are looking sexy at the gym. That's what's going on. Do not tell me1.00
00:16:48.980that you're wearing that stuff because it helps you get into shape. All right? That's bullshit.
00:16:55.820So that's what's happening. But we are in this contradiction where young people, at least,0.99
00:17:02.800Now, all ages go to the gym, but young people at least are having significantly less sex than other generations at that time ever did.0.97
00:17:13.300And there is a kind of, I don't know, stink in the air, I guess, with Woke One, where you're going to be accused of rape by asking a girl for her phone number, or you're going to be shouted out by looking at a girl's butt when she's doing a squad.0.93
00:17:33.900I get it. And so there's just this weird like combination of a lack of accessibility and a fear alongside hypersexuality. And that's a very toxic combination. In the 80s, at least the perception was that girl doing jazzercise and the leotard and sweating was sort of available. She was public property even.0.86
00:18:01.160and she likes it when you go up and talk to her ask her for her number you look like shane gillis
00:18:10.300you might get a slap or something she'll move on to the guy who can bench 350 or something that was
00:18:16.720the vibe or the perception and now we don't have that perception and thus you create this kind of0.92
00:18:24.420clusterfuck environment of hyper wokeified and hyper sexualized which is not good but
00:18:33.720why didn't shane gillis talk about these things these are these things are actually interesting1.00
00:18:38.940but like women are whores now isn't it interesting shane that they're not whores0.98
00:18:45.900that at least the women in their 20s are having dramatically less sex than millennials gen xers0.98
00:18:53.180and boomers at that age isn't that interesting that's actually the basis the premise for a funny