HOUSE ARREST e24 - Mitch Short
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1 hour and 53 minutes
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211.37823
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306
Summary
In this episode, the brother and sister duo of the and sit down with their good friend Mitch and talk about some of the most horrifying stories they ve ever told each other. Mitch talks about his time in the Canadian military, the dangers of mefloquine, and how he and his wife became addicted to it.
Transcript
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the song never gets old deftones everybody loves that unlike us uh we definitely got old
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i'm just trying to get into the camera there can you see me oh yeah unfortunately
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not in front of the kids promise you would do this today
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oh what's going on everybody coming in from wherever wherever the hell you're at in uh you
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know bigot world this is mitch one of uh many subjects of some of the more seedy and horrifying
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stories i've told over the years you can attest to either we're there for or we're
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a direct uh participant in or something um from i think you're still in the oshware you're from
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there right yeah yeah originally that sucks also it's just a lot of bad news coming out of you yeah
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i know i live uh i'm like half hour away from toronto right on and uh yeah and we were both in
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rcr together that's where i met you i was thinking this yesterday that was like 15 years ago isn't
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that fucking insane 2006 yeah man look how like you were i used to make fun of you for being old
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you were like i remember when you turned 30 you were like man i'm fucking 30 i was like hat now look
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at me and look at you why do you look younger than me what the fuck is going on here
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less stressed i don't have a podcast probably yeah that has something to do with it
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oh how's everything going on your end how's the kids and the the old the wife and the in the
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pandemic i'm sure you're staying home and staying safe and doing all the rule following you're supposed
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to do and i mean war is one thing yeah yeah i just took my mask off yeah just now finally i mean
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yeah i don't like to wear one because i'm a bigot and i'm a horrible person but i assume you have it
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on in the shower you you and your wife use the glory hole right of course
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of course you do fuck can you believe that was an actual like health health recommendation yeah i wish
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well you know the government uh i think that's why i mean i hate it so much but it's like i think
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it's because we spent so much time being told what the fuck to do all the time by stupid people that
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we didn't respect that uh you just run out of gas for it after a while you know finally i'm out of
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the army i don't have to be told what to do anymore i mean we we also got to uh we got to peek behind
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the curtain a little bit too right unfortunately yeah we kind of know how it works uh you're involved are
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you on the uh you're on the mefloquine suit as well i think right that's correct yeah isn't that
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fun should be getting my money any day any decade lifetime now yeah just take the pills they're safe
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and safe and effective they're and it's it's fine it's it's super not i mean is your uh is your
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audience informed on mefloquine do they know what's up with that i've talked about it a little bit
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you can if you want to yeah i was uh i mean i've talked about it before with the uh just um and i
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mean maybe you could maybe it's been the same it's different for everybody but it's the same for
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everybody a lot of a lot of ways you know the the angry you know tirades and the stress and the
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anxiety and it's like they misdiagnose so many people with ptsd and that never really sat well
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with me like i guess if that's what's wrong with me but i always thought there was something else that
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i couldn't quite put my finger on and then this kind of shit so i was like this sounds
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like um i've never felt right since and like since we started taking those it's like i never really got
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back to 100 it's like there's just something off you know what i mean like a brain fog that's hard
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to describe well you're half right because it attacks your brain stem well okay doctor
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you call me doctor for the rest of the episode i will i will do that
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dr short i'm a dog i identify as a doctor sexually so i mean that's it's fine they don't mind
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okay all right but yeah with uh meffulcan i don't know how many people know about it
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or if they know the particulars but obviously we do because we we lived it and we we are friends
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with the people whose lives are destroyed from it yeah uh you know i'm sure everybody knows the
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lionel desmond yeah unfortunately that's probably the worst worst case scenario yeah i talked about
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that triple murder suicide yeah we don't need to get into it if you already got into it a little bit but i
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mean you know he was he was with he was in the our sister company he was he was i company but uh
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stupid and then there's all the other the fucking suicide i mean i talk with that all the time i was
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like i know more people that i mean the amount of people we know for that just have died of some
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suicides ridiculous i get the point sometimes i'm like i wonder what that guy's doing all right he's
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dead i forgot like i forget who's alive a lot of the time there's stat many of them
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yeah one of the one of the anderson brothers took their life on my wedding day and
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one of my groomsmen was uh a guy from india company that we went this overseas with
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and he told me about it on my wedding day man like right before i was about to walk down the aisle
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oh you know how hard it was to walk that out yeah he could have waited i know
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who was that john no who who told i think i know who you mean he was a he was a recon guy right
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dave yeah yeah yeah okay yeah i was like who was the guy's yeah dave yeah okay he just wanted to
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fuck with you he said he said in hindsight i wish i didn't tell you yeah waited well that's that's
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what you that's what that's the infantry way it's like you gotta fucking i don't know it's like
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constantly shit testing each other for some reason i remember i was trying to think i was like what is
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my first memory of you that i really vivid that i'm like and it was this motherfucker because we
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were doing an inspection you remember this and uh and donnie was there donnie lucas was you know
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exactly what i'm gonna say and uh for whatever reason i couldn't i'd misplace them didn't take
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them nobody likes to wear these stupid id discs they're gay you know i just put them in my pocket
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after a while you know but uh they wanted them i didn't have one so chris stanix being the good
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guy that he was he's like here just borrow mine just you know they're just he's not even gonna know
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look at them okay and you overheard this and knew that this was what was happening and donnie came
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by and was like okay good good and you know sergeant you should read the name on it
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and he's like i was like who the fuck is this asshole what is wrong with you the dick
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fucking dick move and then donnie was all over me oh you thought you'd fucking pull a fast one
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on donnie did you like oh sorry i don't know i'll be fucking seeing you later make sure you guys had
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your id cards and everything too after that he's like oh yeah ran you through the coals yeah yeah he
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was like checking my boot sizes and shit like he was like i gotta fucking check you top to bottom
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now i'm like oh you mother fuck you know yeah he was a great guy i liked him a lot there i am
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standing at attention almost pissing myself laughing you were right behind them laughing your
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ass off i'm like you fucking son of a bitch you have a habit of doing that we were just laughing in
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the um in the chat there too is that other people don't know we both did the uh the seesaw selection
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together as well we both did that together and uh there was a time one of the events we were doing
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it was like towards the end i think the last couple of days and it was the middle of the night
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or four in the morning whatever the fuck and we had the rucksacks in the in the and it was a long
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haul and i caught it anyway it came up and i was like oh it's shorty what's up and you were like man
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you got any water left man i'm so thirsty and yeah there's some water you owe me so i was like me being
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the nice team player guy that i am i'm like yeah yeah here have some of my over half full canteen that
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i've been nursing and you're just like this and just dummied the whole canteen and then gave me
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i was like you mother fuck and you're like well i don't have any water now neither do you it's fair
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oh yeah that was uh that that was the run that was that death run we did it started as a long run
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and they're like just run if they right we started they're like just run to the end of the cones boys
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and everybody went and i started jogging slowly and the staff's like uh number 15 are you gonna
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go any faster and i'm like how how far are the cones and he went and ran away so it's like it
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goes a long way it was like 20 fucking k it was like a 20k run and then when you get to the end
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they were like oh are you done no here's your rucksacks and all your shit now you gotta walk
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another fucking few hours with all this crap on it was that was a fun day but yeah that was a tough
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but that was a hard time i remember uh the medic gave me something like two or three hours before
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that i can't remember what it was but it was something they weren't like supposed to give you
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what was that morphe anyway well it now yeah i wish but we're gonna felt a sting on that run
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meth yeah i don't know but i just remember both my both my hammies and my glutes started cramping up
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and i was like oh no what did they give me he sabotaged you never take anything from the staff
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they're only trying to kill you fuck man my feet were so fucked at the end of that do you remember
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that that could be applied to everything yeah you're real bad yeah man we look like fucking
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extras in zombie movies you made i was told that story too because i had like blood blisters like
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that big on the both of my heels because i i did this the cf sock system i thought this was a good
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idea for some reason the last day the fucking whole thing and i'm like man i'm getting hot spots on
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my feet you know what i should do is the cf sock system like for some reason that briefing from
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like 15 years ago pops into my head and now the socks and my boots are just doing this
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and fucking cooked my feet and i was like oh god they're all tight and they're fucked and i was
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trying to walk to the mess after it was over and you were coming back with a couple of the other guys
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and i was like walking around on the balls of my feet all fucked up and you're like zombie and like
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didn't help me just like made fun of me and i'm like hobbling across you guys got in a truck and
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sorry no room for zombies yeah no yeah i'm a human supremacist i don't work for you
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oh those were funny times oh that was hilarious yeah that was a long time ago too what was that 2009 10
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yeah 2009 september 2009 it was the first seven day uh selection cereal if i'm not mistaken
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good experience though i enjoyed it after the fact
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all right good yeah well i don't know man i think uh i think about like t-sore and
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phf riots all the time because like i said i didn't make either of them
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but i always think back to i wonder what the outcome would have been
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if i didn't do tour first and get a peek behind that curtain
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yeah it definitely took some steam out of shit because i remember when i by the time i got around
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to doing the uh the dwyer hill one i that's always what i wanted to do and then by the time i got there
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i was just like i know what i mean it's like i know i'm too depressed with this whole shit i'm too
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disillusioned with everything it's hard to put your fucking because you gotta be you gotta be willing
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to die there on these fucking things you know what i mean these aren't like show up and fucking do some
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push-ups and you know it's it's like no no we're gonna break you fucking real we're gonna try real
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hard i watch grown men like cry and quit within 10 minutes you know what i mean like these are and
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these were hard it's yes it's no joke man so it's like if you're not on the ball 100 mentally like
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you're not gonna fucking make it anyway and uh you know it's just i wouldn't yeah it's interesting
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i think about that a lot too what what what would have been different and then you got guys who
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who just run right through it they they go they do it twice they're like yeah it wasn't easy it
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wasn't too bad it was easy yeah they're just mentally yeah i mean we knew a few of those guys
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right i think marcus did it a couple of times and yeah um yeah a bunch of guys did that kind of stuff
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uh canna bear it sounds like cannabis uh says thank you both for your service true grit well i'm just a
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complainer i mean i don't i never really did much yeah i didn't tell i'm still not in
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if i remember correctly i just made your life a living hell oh no yeah i don't know i mean he
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didn't help you woke up on you woke up on my pmq couch covered in bud light cans no more than once
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i know that every sunday for like a year that's for great that was a great year though man that was
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hilarious do you remember i was thinking this too i was like some other funny ones when we were in
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cyprus after the tour was over and uh you went out you just decided to go on a rampage you're just
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going to be a huge dickhead and uh i i don't i watched it literally everybody i could find yeah
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this guy this huge guy was the only thing he was wearing was like a speedo and a scottish flag and he
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was like 6'4 and like 250 he looked like a pro wrestler and he was at a table with a bunch of people
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and you just came running out of out of somewhere and you went and flipped his table over and then ran
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away down the street and he was like covered in beer like what the fuck and he saw us laughing
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and he cornered us later and he was like where's your friend we're like what friend i don't know
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he's like the outrageous one who flipped the table i'm like i don't know man what and you just uh yeah
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cypress was wild i tell people about that all the time that was my first night couches are guys were
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just pissing in the lobby naked there's like a couch floating in the pool fucking guys are just
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there's families trying to have their family vacation and like what the worst possible place to put
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you know a bunch of a bunch of women and children around a bunch of these maniacs 20 something year
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old guys with you know de-stressing to the max with too much money and you know nowhere to go
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that was my first time drinking vodka and red bulls in cyprus and it was also my last yeah it's a
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good call hi my kidneys hurt when you wake up and your kidneys hurt oh man i drank so many of those
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things i didn't even go back until the sun rose and i saw uh remember veron
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of course he was he was sleeping he was sleeping in the hallway he looks exactly the same
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there was another another guy i don't want to say his name but you know who i mean and uh one of the
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guys um had a had a chick with him but uh his room was occupied you know so he went into this and
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kicked he was sleeping in bed he went in and like dragged him out in the middle of the night and he's
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like what's going on he's like shut up threw a pillow at him and a blanket he's like go find
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somewhere else to fucking sleep brings his this chick into his slams the door and he's standing
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there holding the pillow in his underwear like what the fuck yeah oh my god was that the
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that was your roommate uh it was an india company guy no that was your that was your roommate for a
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number of years oh that who did it to him oh yeah yeah yeah okay i got you i know what you're
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saying this is hard when you don't want to say names yeah yeah yeah i can understand why you don't
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want to say their names well i mean some of these guys are married now and have lives and
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oh man full draw scarps says good afternoon biggest cheers to you both subject let's let's
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death to stalin and the rest of the cirques yeah yeah we did the uh we did that 07 we were in the
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same platoon uh you had the best fire team partner in the world i remember um the c6 team you were on
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where he did all of the work and you didn't do anything that's what i remember
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yeah i remember it that way too just judging by this photo here i love this picture
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i had to pick this one because i'm like that is and number two for everybody watching at home
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that was perfect the cigarette hanging out you're just laying there defeated just like i fucking hate
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everything i remember when this picture was taken on there yeah fuck i had the c6 i had the c6 i had
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which is about 35 pounds i had the predator pack with two belts of ammo which is another 24 pounds i
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had 10 fucking uh c7 mags two grenades two m72s and a backpack full of shit yeah that's what you're
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laying on and we went 14k yeah yeah and it was like 70 fucking degrees oh it was late may late may
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in afghanistan padway yeah bye was it you that was with that news padway oh that was i mean yeah
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we i was talking about that a little while ago it um i mean i don't know i kind of made peace with it
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years ago it was like this was no you know what i mean like that it was just nonsense like we never
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should have fucking been there in the first place really had nothing to do with us and the government
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just used us for fucking you know um so i was mad about it a long time ago and a lot of guys are just
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getting mad about it now like what is this all for nothing like yeah yeah i kind of figured that
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out a lot a while ago i mean i i did my grieving process already so but yeah i mean it's just like
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the story the circle has come it's like the vietnam guys and whoever it's like you know it's the same
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shit you get into the military industrial complex you know endless war cycle and then it's like you
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know you go in the meat grinder you come out the other end if you do and then uh you're left like
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what the fuck was that for and there isn't really a reason it was just a job you know and
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that's a that's a bad reason to be going off you know killing scores of people and blowing up
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everybody and really not a good justification for that no i still feel bad for the i still feel bad
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for the people of tanjue you know like uh hairdressers and nurses and teachers yeah they're
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probably all dead now if they didn't get out or worse sold into sex trafficking i mean how much
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of that shit did we see over there yep every fucking day yeah i've tell i talk about that a lot
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too the um like we would they would have like uh they would just rape kids like in front of us
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not i mean not in front but like next like 10 meters away in that building remember in uh
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uh wilson there pbw uh massive guy or pbw pbw is where they have the front gate where the fucking
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the uh the big white building was there to the left the uh okay yeah yeah where they had the
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the a&p guys would go in there and they would just fuck kids you know like loudly you know like oh i'm
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just gonna ignore that that's not our problem boys it's not what we're isn't it you know and other
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times i'm pretty sure that is our problem yeah that's kind of hard to live with at times you know
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and um and watching the fucking um i remember another time i was watching these there's an a&p
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position i don't know like two kilometers away you could see it from the front gate and you could
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just hear the you know the rockets impacting on them and the tracers fucking flying into the and
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we they were just uh yeah it's not our ao like what are you taught you know like none of it made
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sense none of none of it really made any sense i was on uh and he could i was on shifts at the rear
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when you were on the front gate i was on one of the ops i think above the uh comms building and i
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called it in too and i got pretty much the same answer yeah i remember i got off shift i ran down
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with like all my full kit and there was this uh afghani police officer laying there he got shot
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seven fucking times with an ak at point lake range and he lived did you believe that shit did he lived
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he lived to the to the bird anyway i don't know what happened to them after that yeah i i uh i asked
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our medic i was like i don't know where that guy lives did he fucking live oh wow yeah and that's what
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that's the same day they um they started bringing in the truckloads of uh of dead bodies
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i was talking about this rpgs ieds literally yesterday or the day before there was a toyota
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hilux or something and they were just yeah just bodies in the back fucking using something
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equivalent of like a push broom and they're just taking like he's there's fucking severed heads and
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like missing body parts yeah just also those people like 14 years old yeah just all stacked up in
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the back of a truck and i was watching one guy like slam the tailgate trying to get it shut like
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right in this guy's dead guy's head like trying to just it was just barely not closing and then the
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other guy and then two of them were there like trying to slam the fork i'm sitting there watching
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this like i'm 20 years old or 21 you know at the time just like this is something to see you know
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and you've got people over here you know aoc is in the white house being like i'm literally
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trying someone took a picture someone took a selfie from my desk i have pts this is worse than 9-11
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and it's uh the discrepan like people don't get like they don't understand what's possible
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i guess oh man they don't have a fucking clue no and i don't think that's it's going to be a rude
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awakening for if things go with fucking i do too man they go sideways what are you what are you how
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are you uh how are you sitting with all this or where you see things going you're having a good
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i think uh i think if anything's going to happen it's going to be in the winter
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not going to be a lot of protests when it's minus 30 outside yep and uh that's when you know they're
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going to have the cases and all the the blaming the unvaccinated the pandemic of the unvaccinated
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and stuff they're calling it out uh yeah you know it's um that that's kind of uh that's kind of
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what started me up doing a lot of this shit in the first place was because just like we did all
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this and then you know we buried all these guys and they're still dying all the time and then you
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turn around and see the government give omar katar 11 million and you know mass import all these guys
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into their into our fucking homes where we live where our women and children live and uh treating
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them like they're some kind of you know while while discarding our own people or you know never
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mind the veterans and the troops but like just the people that live here uh people that are on
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like wealth you know they're disabled like they've got problems and like we don't we're not even taking
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care of our own citizens we're taking care of you know people on the other side of the planet who
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don't even give a shit they're just here to take you know give us the free gibbs they're not even
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they weren't even like importing like um speaking of the the taliban takeover they weren't even taking
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like the interpreters or anything do you mean or any of the people that like put their necks on the
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line to help us like that's not who they were importing over here it was just whoever the fuck
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so it's like who's you know this government doesn't give a fuck they don't really care it's all just a game
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to them and it's like well it wasn't for us um you know i probably you probably do too i still have
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these pictures and these guys and stuff on my wall i will see that every day there's no fucking game
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these were real guys and now they're fucking gone because you guys decided you know being the
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government you wanted to fucking play some kind of game and now you're going to act like uh well it
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doesn't affect them right it doesn't didn't affect them personally they can just go on with their lives
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no did i ever tell you uh when i went home from my hlta uh i got drunk in germany and missed my flight
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and then they reconnected me to another flight they fucking they they asked me to apologize and i was
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like apologize for what and they're like you missed the plane we had to take your uh luggage off and i'm
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like well is the connecting flight free and they're like no i'm like well why the fuck would i apologize
00:23:26.200
that they made you pay for your own for your connecting flight or another one yeah but i woke
00:23:32.660
up i got on the i got on the plane i passed out drunk and i woke up and i was sitting you know i can
00:23:37.060
believe this sitting next to a fucking member of parliament wow he goes uh he's like he's prodding
00:23:43.700
he wants to know what i'm doing on the plane and i tell him and he shows me his business card
00:23:48.280
and i'm like look man you remember the last fucking person i want to talk to about this
00:23:52.720
no no but i said that to him and then uh that was it that was that was the conversation it was
00:23:58.240
very awkward for like the next eight hours well i mean they don't put any skin in anything i mean
00:24:04.360
uh you know it's it doesn't they don't risk shit they'll make the decisions to send people into the
00:24:10.060
into these situations but they don't it's not the old days like the king doesn't ride into battle with
00:24:13.680
his fucking men anymore we have uh you know a bunch of fat soft spineless babies that sit here and
00:24:19.600
and and now like that was bad enough and those same people now are like well now we're going to
00:24:24.520
ruin your lives and close your businesses and tell you where you can go and where you can't go and
00:24:27.800
hey we're going to make we're going to basically uh you know segregate society and try and you know
00:24:31.880
pressure you and use psychological warfare on you and your family and your children and so on to
00:24:37.620
make you do things like at what point does like the anger levels have got to be like how much can
00:24:44.260
these fucking people get away with before people snap you know um i have you know i don't know it's
00:24:49.880
not it shouldn't be a shock to a lot of people i have zero respect for basically 98 of the government
00:24:54.480
yeah yeah it seems like the ones we respect are in a position where they can't do anything anyway
00:25:01.680
yeah isn't it weird how that seems to work right yeah it's almost like it's a pattern yeah it's like
00:25:08.300
there's something going on did you did you get a movie no i don't think so i don't uh one of the
00:25:14.080
guys on youtube was asking about the hoodies i just got badmofoco.ca sean hartson just made all
00:25:18.140
those i put it on it's you've probably seen the picture on instagram there the old 82 pattern
00:25:24.640
yeah i like i like those dudes uh i'm sorry what'd you say his name was again you just had him on your
00:25:31.940
show the uh the fitness guy he looks like a fucking bike oh yeah it was sean zimmer that's a different
00:25:37.580
guy but yeah he's also yeah sorry he's in winnipeg running a backyard uh rebel gym essentially
00:25:43.380
yeah i started following him on instagram i was like yeah man he rules awesome yeah he rules
00:25:49.500
we need more guys like that how's your uh it funny enough like that's this is all your fault well not
00:25:55.680
all your fault but probably your fault because you were training for uh you were training for jtf2 i
00:26:00.080
think at the time like way way way back like after tour and this was back when i was like doing that
00:26:05.480
seemed insane to me it was like i could never do something like that that's way beyond me like
00:26:09.820
that's fucking retarded right and then uh yeah and you got in great shape but i was not i was a tiny
00:26:15.320
i tell them all the time like i was 145 150 pounds maybe i was not that fit i was not in great shape at
00:26:20.880
all and then uh you're like oh i'll take you to the go to the gym we went to the gym one day
00:26:24.980
and it was like within 10 minutes yeah i remember you're just standing there being like
00:26:28.780
this is what this is what you fucking said you go seeing you try to exercise makes me realize
00:26:40.700
oh i'm ruthless okay i mean it's true but have you ever not been in shape since
00:26:50.480
no not really i think i've been haven't stopped since yeah i've been
00:26:53.440
that was that was probably when was that 2008 maybe i got no actually i got real fat after that
00:26:59.040
after tour i remember that now i got right fat i bloomed up to like 205 pounds not a good 205 either
00:27:04.800
like i was just i'm just my only diet is gonna be pizza and liquor for like a full year and uh you
00:27:11.560
know be surprised at the consequences not understand why my pants don't fit anymore so yeah i've been a
00:27:17.160
little guy a fat guy i've been all the things oh what happened uh to swat away a fly into my phone
00:27:28.080
that's the mefloquen rage and i missed a fly it's a fly like you didn't have to punch your phone
00:27:34.960
because there's a fly there it's the mefloquen rager right it could be oh yeah we got off topic
00:27:43.060
with that let's talk about that how much like how much have you gone into it with your audience
00:27:48.680
not a ton just basically like what it does and what it did and you know my you know some of the
00:27:54.160
shit that's done to me personally and um that there's a massive you know mass tort litigation
00:28:00.280
lawsuit from howie saxon entry and i keep saying it for other other guys that might be watching that
00:28:03.900
were in anybody that was deployed i think since like the 90s that may have been given this stuff
00:28:08.360
you're probably eligible for something because it does all kinds of shit to your brainstem and
00:28:12.980
basically mimics the same symptoms as like severe ptsd which explains why you know because we were
00:28:18.500
like how are these clerks and like air force people and like p like you you sat in an air conditioned
00:28:23.300
trailer the whole time yeah how do you how are you traumatized like ptsd is not like i got scared
00:28:28.600
once it's like i was gonna die like i was pretty convinced i was gonna die you know like it was over
00:28:33.980
you know like that a level of like fear that it like causes residual fucking and i was like how did
00:28:39.220
that happen with to you like did they run out of french fries at the dfac and you you know i don't
00:28:43.120
understand but the pill but and some of these people were legitimately fucked up so i'm like i don't get
00:28:47.120
it the pills are doing it that's the only thing that makes sense and there's a lot of evidence to say
00:28:51.300
that that is the case but uh you know it's the only thing that makes sense to me
00:28:54.620
yeah and the government is uh refusing to i know admit it
00:29:00.000
the one thing i want to drive home for anybody who is listening is that when they when they
00:29:08.260
uh issued us the methlican for the reason of anti-malaria and when they gave it to us they
00:29:16.180
already knew that it was poisonous for methlican toxicity they already knew the damages that it was
00:29:23.440
going to do to people but they gave it to us anyway because the alternative was slightly more expensive
00:29:28.860
think about that yeah yep just like agent orange and just you know and and this is the same
00:29:35.620
government right now that says take the take the uh the i've been calling it the penetration to get
00:29:39.840
away from the algorithms if you say the v word it doesn't like that so you're going to get penetrated
00:29:44.360
you don't want to get double penetrated you get double penetrated that's the worst you're
00:29:48.080
fucked then and if you get three if you get three p you're fucked it's over for you
00:29:52.760
but i mean trust them it's safe and effective because they would never lie they would you know
00:29:58.440
never do anything that would uh definitely not i mean it's like fuck man they you know we trusted
00:30:02.480
them and they fucked us over and now they're not even they're not even willing to admit
00:30:06.580
culpability that they did anything wrong they're gonna fight us in court which they're doing
00:30:11.000
again how many years left are on this suit you can only do seven years right how many years are left
00:30:16.700
i don't know it's got to be getting close it hasn't even it's been at least three or four
00:30:21.060
it's been i'd say probably three or more yeah maybe three or four since we've since it started
00:30:28.160
and it hasn't even you know they just keep deferring to this and changing that like they
00:30:32.000
just keep dragging their heels and deliberately trying to fucking buy time and trying to blame
00:30:35.840
the uh pharmaceutical companies who told them they're like no we we disclosed everything we
00:30:40.000
told you this is what it does these are the known side effects we you knew all of this you just
00:30:43.180
didn't give a shit and they delete they lost all of our medical files too and they didn't debrief
00:30:47.320
everybody like they're supposed to they didn't tell us what the side effects were they didn't do
00:30:49.840
anything they were supposed to do it was criminal negligence which caused probably a lot of death
00:30:53.640
um like you were talking about desi there and a lot of other guys like he was like that story
00:30:59.500
shocked me because that was so unlike him and it's like you know people go oh you never really know
00:31:04.780
somebody he's like no we we didn't work in an office space where it was nine to five you know
00:31:09.280
where it could be like patrick bateman working next to you and you have no fucking idea these you
00:31:12.680
know we live on top of each other for months on end like you're getting a pretty good sense of a guy
00:31:16.440
right you get a you know what i mean you're fucking literally shitting in the same
00:31:19.680
hole in the ground together like it's you don't uh it's really hard to so for him to do that was
00:31:25.820
just really like what the fuck happened there that doesn't you know that that had to be some kind of
00:31:31.240
drug-induced uh because that guy wouldn't hurt a fly really like he was the nicest fucking guy
00:31:36.820
that broke my heart when i heard that man i was at work when i found out about that and i like i needed
00:31:40.980
like a half hour by myself just when my boss came up and asked me and i i told him and i'm like yo man
00:31:46.740
this is what happened i need like i need like an extra 15 minutes on lunch where i'm going home
00:31:50.800
i was walking up my stairs oh and he's he's like a big vet guy so he was on board with it but
00:31:56.260
yeah i was walking up my stairs at my house and i saw it on my phone then it came in on the news
00:32:01.900
i like basically dropped my phone and just kind of sat there on the stairs like just trying to hold
00:32:06.680
it in for like probably 15 minutes and like one of my kids was like oh what's wrong i was like just
00:32:12.280
uh i gotta go gotta go sit in the bathroom and turn the water on for a few minutes you know what i mean
00:32:18.320
like it was you know senseless like a real man yeah yeah cry in the shower like a real man that's
00:32:24.140
what you gotta hold it in until i tell that's what i where's my uh is this one yeah at the my goodbye
00:32:31.580
thanks for watching fall subscribe share and cry in the shower said that for quite a while
00:32:35.840
cry in the shower like a real man you know and uh yeah it just it's so senseless and all the guys
00:32:47.160
that you know they keep checking out and it's like you can't replace that and there's only so many
00:32:50.840
and it's like losing a piece of your family because there's nobody else like there's no
00:32:55.000
replacements for that even there's other guys that do other tours or whatever but no one was on that one
00:32:59.540
there's only that that one moment in time that we were all that you know what i mean it's a finite
00:33:04.280
limited amount of guys and they're just you know gone gone more of them are gone all the time and
00:33:08.540
it's like fuck you know there's it's like uh the last of the mohicans or something like who's how
00:33:14.180
many are going to be left here in 10 years you know it's uh it's like yeah one of my favorite
00:33:19.660
stories the anderson brothers too right like there's so many um there was a bunch of guys and i got to
00:33:25.580
third battalion it was just like fuck every week it seemed like there for a while for a couple of
00:33:29.160
months it was just i got the recon warrant and like it was you know it was nuts um and oh and
00:33:35.380
the fuck yeah there's been some bad ones yeah it was uh martin you remember that one that was
00:33:40.320
i do yeah i remember that one very well him and i didn't get along i got with that not the slightest
00:33:48.340
bit but that right i was still heartbroken when i heard the news yeah yeah i was i was talking to
00:33:54.040
yeah and i told that story because i was at jpsu at the same time too because i fucking went crazy
00:33:59.700
for a little while i was like ah fucking snapped yeah started like kick beating and they're like
00:34:05.140
whoa you need to fucking chill out and they put me in this fucking you know and martin was up there
00:34:09.100
and and he was a sergeant at the time and i remember sitting next to him in the fuck you got to go in
00:34:13.280
and check in with these fucking idiots who don't know they don't you know and uh and he's like
00:34:19.200
last week i was like how are you making out or whatever i was talking to him he's like well
00:34:22.580
i use i was a section commander in the infantry i was in charge of you know 10 guys and millions
00:34:27.520
of dollars of equipment and an apc and all this stuff and like now he's and he looked at me he
00:34:31.460
says now i mow the lawn you know they had to mow in the lawn and and everybody would drive by on
00:34:37.700
the way to the bay on the way through the base to the battalion lines every day see him and he you
00:34:41.500
know like how humiliating is that like they don't look oh it's a nice low speed job for a low stress
00:34:46.680
just mow the lawn like you can't take a guy like that you know they're proud fucking warrior culture
00:34:51.360
and then make him mow the lawn like he's 14 and then have the you know it was like who's thinking
00:34:56.500
of this kind of shit it i don't know like taking these guys away from their support structure the
00:35:01.120
people that understand them the most and then hiding them somewhere else it's like that backwards it's
00:35:05.920
completely the opposite and when i got back to the unit i was the only person they told me at that
00:35:10.360
time i don't know if since it's like you know the you're the only person to ever come back from there
00:35:14.000
from jpsu it was a death sentence if you went there it's over for you you're never coming back
00:35:18.960
you're on the way out i fucking clawed my way back in and they were like uh and nobody cared nobody
00:35:24.880
even asked me not one officer nobody was like so you know like do you guys know this whole thing
00:35:29.260
is broken as fuck like this system is garbage and they're like well how did you get back i was like
00:35:32.840
i just told them what they wanted to hear because that was the only way to get my job back it's like
00:35:36.620
just tell them what they want to hear because there's no they're just like just take pills and do all
00:35:39.560
this shit i'm like this is all fuck no i'm good to go everything's fine let's go back to work now
00:35:43.420
never mind and that was in like fuck 2010 or something like 12 i don't know i don't know when
00:35:49.780
that was i have no idea now when i uh left when i left the infantry and my uh ot got approved to
00:35:59.620
air force firefighter and i was you know doing my job there no problems i'm there for about a year
00:36:05.520
and uh i started having some like issues with afghanistan because this is around the time of
00:36:11.480
drinking that you stopped drinking all that stuff that i was suppressing third to come back yeah
00:36:16.580
yeah because you used you i don't think you've been drinking now in years have you remember right
00:36:20.120
uh it'll be 12 years this year i think is it that long i was gonna say five or six
00:36:26.580
don't worry i've been keeping up for the both of us
00:36:29.180
good job are you still you quit smoking too i was saying
00:36:34.720
yeah i just i smoke weed yeah but uh i don't really smoke it i kind of just use the
00:36:42.180
the caps or whatever but yeah i go through waves where i smoke it right now i'm on a wave
00:36:47.000
away but i was saying yeah yeah so i ended up at uh
00:36:50.520
the fire hall and i told my master corporal and my uh warrant they call it they're different in the
00:36:57.840
fire trade but i'll stick with ranks we know and i was like yeah i'm just i'm just going through the
00:37:02.520
mental health process and uh in my last trade in the infantry it was kind of a big deal so i want
00:37:07.880
to like be full transparency with you guys and and just let you know what's up i'm not taking any
00:37:14.080
appointments on uh the days that i work i'm not going to miss anything and i even volunteered in
00:37:20.180
that same meeting to go to uh a new vic in the arctic for eight weeks just to like i remember that as
00:37:25.320
like a show of good faith you know what i mean yes and uh when i got back man holy fuck i was like
00:37:32.320
what did i did i do something that you guys found out about when i was gone
00:37:36.640
but it uh it turned really really bad man shit went south really fast and um i remember the
00:37:44.780
the master corporal and i was like look man if you don't shut the fuck up we're gonna have a problem
00:37:49.480
and then he brings me into the to the warrant the warrant's like you know what's going on i'm like
00:37:55.060
if you don't let me out of this room i'm gonna knock your fucking out and he was like okay and then
00:38:00.620
he got out and then i turned around and i hoofed the door as hard as i could and it almost went off
00:38:04.960
the hinges yeah and then uh yeah that was it for me i was uh i was at jpsu shortly after that yeah
00:38:10.740
that was towards the end of mine he didn't stop man yeah they uh they put the depth like the the
00:38:17.320
master warrant officer yeah he fucking had it out for me too and he's like a fat piece of shit like
00:38:21.960
he couldn't run from here to the bathroom to save his life and he was like picking fights with me
00:38:25.680
behind closed doors and i'm like i told him i'm like bro i know what you're trying to do i'm gonna
00:38:30.440
get out on a 3d with 10 years and you don't want me to collect that pension i was fuck you i was like
00:38:35.340
you back to search your ass parent i'm like you won't talk to me anymore take it up at the health
00:38:39.240
staff they're so petty and uh that was the end of that and that's a lot that's a common story a lot
00:38:44.980
of guys that that we know that went like the air for it like oh it'll be easier like and you know
00:38:49.500
i was ripping on them one night i mean you know there's a lot of people in the other trades and stuff
00:38:53.300
they do a good job it's all necessary whatever i'm not trying to disrespect them but it's like
00:38:56.660
listen though motherfucker like i i we earned this okay they don't just give these away
00:39:02.160
um there's a reason the infantry is the hardest fucking place in the military i mean it is what
00:39:06.460
it is and i'm like when we want a vacation we come and do your job right when it's like all right i'm
00:39:11.840
done i want to have an easy job now i want to i want to sleep indoors and have a schedule and you
00:39:16.280
know like yeah i'm gonna go join the air force so don't fucking come in here and try to act like
00:39:19.840
you're gonna get off like they're so petty and rather than just having respect for these guys
00:39:23.960
that do these fucking jobs they get dick fear or something and they it's like you remind them of
00:39:29.360
everything they can't do or won't do because you know and there's a lot it's always these types
00:39:33.520
that go around trying to you know they get the same they all get the same campaign star we do
00:39:37.000
and they all keep going out looking for attention and it'll go i was afghanistan and like you fucking
00:39:41.660
sat in an air-conditioned trailer man there's guys that were there for two months and they
00:39:45.740
whoa they only did two months yeah and then his legs get fucking removed by a landmine
00:39:49.880
like he's not only a private and only like that dude fucking went out into the meat grinder while
00:39:55.320
you sat there and now you're going to try and you know uh big man fucking tough talk people it's
00:40:00.500
so it's a lot of the infantry guys don't have a good time when they go to the air force because
00:40:03.440
the culture is a lot different there's no there's no respect at all uh they're supposed to be
00:40:08.520
it's the old roman legion days it was you know like they would uh the roman legions would come
00:40:13.620
back from wherever and everyone else basically was like they were just like clean my way they
00:40:17.720
would just clean their weapons and they had other people that did that for them and the the you know
00:40:22.220
mentality was well thank goodness because you're doing this so i don't have to go out there and
00:40:26.620
fight the fucking gauls you know with swords and axes and shit that's fucked like they're doing it so
00:40:32.860
i don't have to thank you for doing that for me the least i can do is clean your shields and shit up
00:40:37.160
for you right now it's like well what have you done for us lately it's because you know and we we
00:40:41.720
don't have to we never had to fight a real war in such a long time like there's luxuries i mean
00:40:45.580
there's guys man they have air-conditioned trailers with like wi-fi connections they were playing video
00:40:50.060
games and eating lobsters and sleeping in beds and shit like what kind of war do you think you're in
00:40:53.960
right now oh i tell this story a lot and you were there for this here's a great example the fucking
00:40:59.980
one rcr guys when they came back you remember the fucking looks on those guys remember we were i think
00:41:03.800
we were we were walking somewhere and i was like holy fuck look at these dudes you know the looks on
00:41:08.360
their faces the way the just they were they were just coming out of the field from medusa and
00:41:12.320
everything right and uh and they wanted to go use the ball hockey rink right and uh they went down
00:41:19.840
there and the and all the other the non-combat trade that were just lived in the camp the whole
00:41:24.360
time they said well you can't play because you're not in the league they're like league and they
00:41:29.460
wouldn't let them use the fight like these guys were just out getting their asses handed to them for
00:41:32.380
fucking you know seven months and a whole company got fucking lit up and they're you know what i mean
00:41:36.500
the least you can do it's like did you forget why you're here it's fucked there's just uh there's
00:41:42.580
no respect there's no two-way respect anymore you're not here to be the league champion yeah
00:41:46.880
you're not here to play fucking ball hockey man like there's there's a war going on out there right
00:41:50.920
and these guys could use a break and you know the least you can do is let them uh oh you know they
00:41:55.920
didn't and so they destroyed the ball hockey rink obviously naturally they went and got drunk
00:41:59.500
came back and ripped the fences down and broke a bunch of the sticks and went ape shit and
00:42:03.420
you know they smoothed it over because it was like well i mean these are like the heroes right
00:42:07.600
now they just did op medusa and everything we can't be fucking it's like listen you probably
00:42:11.600
should just let them play you know what i mean like that that attitude i was in line at uh
00:42:16.000
tim horton's at the boardwalk shortly after uh youtube bravo happened when we got to go back in
00:42:25.520
for like that three days yeah and i remember i was standing at the tim horton's line long line
00:42:29.900
the boardwalk and there's two officers in front of me and one of them said to the other i heard
00:42:35.140
the infantry's back and the other guy goes great now the lineups are going to be long and then they
00:42:40.900
must have known because they both looked behind me or looked behind to see me and i'm like i just shook
00:42:46.500
my head at them both like two captains they saw the uh they saw the hat badge or the lapel or something
00:42:55.800
oh yeah they they that was wearing my infantry uniform they totally knew i was in the royals
00:43:04.220
right and uh yeah they didn't say anything for the rest of the line it was really awkward and quiet
00:43:09.840
i seem to do that a lot people yeah yeah that was uh yeah and that was the people that i've talked
00:43:16.820
with this one a lot too that was uh that was our platoon and uh you actually got by the grace of
00:43:23.000
how did you you were in that section with these guys and then you got moved and so did uh dunbar
00:43:28.140
and a few other guys just by chance you know what i mean and then yeah so um chris there on the eve of
00:43:36.340
deployment man like uh after christmas leave less than a month like we were going to deploy in three
00:43:41.940
weeks and uh surgeon lucas told me you're going to headquarters you're going to be the c6 gunner and
00:43:48.860
uh kennedy's going to be the c9 gunner and you know two two and a half months later they were dead
00:43:54.840
yeah we and i in front of me too at that like yeah i i was home on i was actually home i had just
00:44:02.220
yeah i had just gotten home we switched leave blocks with them because they had we had the good
00:44:07.120
one that was right in the middle and because they were all married and all had kids or fiancees
00:44:10.800
and shit or whatever right or like donnie and and and chris and and we like we got all single
00:44:15.560
dudes you know whatever getting divorced or whatever besides greg you know so the hell is
00:44:21.400
that is it the purge is that the purge alarm uh i have contractors in my contractors doing my
00:44:29.040
bathroom right now work faster slaves yeah like i why we just like we would have been fucked because
00:44:36.000
because if they we hadn't switched leave blocks we would have took their position it was going to
00:44:39.120
be our turn to fucking ride point we would have been fucked and you know what i mean just weird
00:44:42.780
little things like that swap out but i was yeah i had just gotten home when that happened on for
00:44:46.460
you know my two week break or whatever the fuck it was and uh yeah you were still there
00:44:50.700
yeah i was the vehicle behind when the explosion went off i lost hearing in both of my ears my
00:44:58.480
letters still fucked it was it was so that's the least of the problems for that day yeah i remember uh
00:45:05.120
i was looking for when i was the gunner donnie landed right in front of him there yeah like
00:45:14.260
it was i don't want to go into the details of it yeah but it was just it was horrible like it was
00:45:20.380
i remember i just remember being the lab gunner and just traversing from left to right and in the
00:45:27.080
center of my arcs was all of the aftermath like just yeah for fucking hours and then i cleaned i cleaned up
00:45:34.840
the lab after me and seeley we're standing in the fucking lab in the blast site we're standing in
00:45:40.140
the fucking blast site wiping blood and shit off of all the kit and their mail to savage ever salvage
00:45:48.180
everything right killer was there too wasn't he kilburn uh i don't know probably i just know it was
00:45:56.800
me and me and scott in the back of the lab yeah seeley was a good dude i don't know he's another one
00:46:02.080
don't know what happened to him he fell off the grid nobody you know and i remember thinking like
00:46:06.440
you guys should have got like a medal or something you know but the ceo made sure he got one for
00:46:11.680
himself you know and they gave themselves medals for for motivating you guys or something and i've
00:46:17.840
told i've talked about it a little bit you know i don't want to get too into it but i i would say
00:46:20.920
like the guys you know they cleaned it up it was six bodies and you know eight or nine stretchers
00:46:25.580
because they didn't know who and what was who um you know like stretchers and and there's no like
00:46:32.240
team that comes in like these are your own guys like you have to clean it up you know like they
00:46:38.780
like fuck the guys just had breakfast together hours ago you know now it's well put that arm in
00:46:43.420
that bag i guess or and whatever and uh yeah they just kind of were like well i was just i was just
00:46:49.100
talking to uh kennedy and stanix we were at the center of the legal leaguer doing the mail run
00:46:54.900
yeah uh kevin and i were talking we were trying to uh we were talking about uh being roommates when
00:47:01.440
we got home and uh he's like yeah well we'll have lunch today we'll talk about it and uh you know
00:47:06.900
half hour later he was dead yeah he was my uh he was actually my roommate there back in the camp i had
00:47:12.420
to clean out his fucking locker and shit it was just yeah you know and i guess the the guys that told me
00:47:18.340
after the fact it was so loud some of the other guys in the other platoon like in six i think and
00:47:23.200
the i company guys like they were in msg like way like this was out in the registan desert like this
00:47:27.620
was way out there like they heard it from that far away it was huge it was like fucking i think it
00:47:33.740
was like three anti-tank mines or something yeah i was on top of a fucking top of artillery round or
00:47:39.520
something it was two anti-tank mines two anti-tank mines and it had 105 artillery round underneath it and
00:47:46.040
it was a pressure plate so when the front right tire of the lab hit the pressure plate it sent the
00:47:51.920
signal back to the ied which was centered perfectly under the hull and then it was that's it i was like
00:47:59.920
40 50 meters away behind oh there's another crazy part of that that story too brian uh the guy the
00:48:08.000
crew commander there they flew him back in he was he was relatively okay but he got stopped i remember
00:48:14.180
him telling the story somewhere i don't it wasn't i was just heard it and was like he's another guy
00:48:17.840
i didn't get along with too well at the time but i mean i've nothing but respect for all these it's
00:48:21.420
funny all that shit goes away like the guys you didn't like at the time and i'm like i don't give
00:48:26.220
a fuck but you know these guys all rule to me like they're all my you know homies to the end you
00:48:30.380
know and he was saying that uh he was walking back from roll three the the the hospital there
00:48:35.560
and uh because he was all fucked up and he had writing all over his his uh his his plate carry his
00:48:41.760
frag vest and shit like his vitals and all because the medics do the shit on the kazovac and everything
00:48:45.340
and he's all covered in dirt because we were out in the field like forever that was like there was
00:48:49.100
no showers we're how long were we out there a month like just living in the dirt for a month
00:48:53.060
just straight fucking and they told us we were going for three days right so we know all about
00:48:57.540
fucking two weeks to flatten the curve oh it'll be two weeks to flatten the curve yeah bullshit the
00:49:01.400
government says something's gonna be two weeks if they say it's gonna be two weeks it's fucking
00:49:05.320
forever you know it's bullshit pack everything you're never coming home right yeah and he was
00:49:09.680
you know just look like shit you know covered in dirt and some and some of these two again two of
00:49:14.800
these motherfuckers who had no idea what's going on out there stop their car and get over and start
00:49:18.740
jacking them up for like his dress and deportment and how how dare you oh look at you and he just
00:49:23.940
like looked at him and was like he said something like i think they could feel that i was going to
00:49:29.340
kill them like i was i had a pistol i was going to kill them he was that mad you know like he just got
00:49:35.620
off that blast site like hours ago and they just kind of like realized what was happening
00:49:39.660
and just ran away but it's like the fucking no nothing nobody home but a lot of these people
00:49:44.420
it's just you know the disrespect is hard you know and they're they'll probably tell their story
00:49:48.540
oh go ahead yeah same thing it's uh very similar to brian's i was uh i dropped off of one of our lab
00:49:57.560
headquarters lab because we had a condensation in the pcu and it was like the turret was going fucking
00:50:03.380
crazy terrifying man we were rolling through ied alley and the turret wasn't working and i was up top
00:50:09.000
with a pistol a pistol so anyway we made it back and um some i'm walking back and i have my bush hat
00:50:23.320
on i'm smoking a butt and someone pulls up i don't know who they were because their seatbelt was across
00:50:28.620
the rank and he's like who the fuck owns you soldier and i'm like i'm with two rcr and i'm trying to look
00:50:33.940
at his rank and he's like sir is good enough for you oh and i'm smoking my cigarette and he's like
00:50:39.220
and he's like he's like put that fucking cigarette out and i'm like yeah okay and i take another drag
00:50:46.820
i'll get to it when i feel like it when i'm done yeah and he and uh
00:50:53.440
and like he could just tell that i just i didn't give a fuck what this guy was saying and uh he's like
00:51:00.300
i'll be all he's like i'm gonna he's like private short uh to rcr he's like i'm gonna track down
00:51:04.800
who owns you we're gonna have to talk and he's like doing the knife hand the whole time i'm like
00:51:08.020
yeah yeah whatever man and just fucking put my smoke and walked away yeah and nothing ever happened
00:51:14.360
probably he probably did get a hold of somebody they probably got a hold of the fucking uh i got a
00:51:20.040
hold of archibald or something there and archibald told him to go fuck himself he was great man he was
00:51:25.280
he was the uh the lab captain i think at the time wasn't he got they got a hold of somebody
00:51:29.140
they got a hold of somebody yeah and uh malloy ended up talking to me about it and he's like
00:51:36.740
what the fuck are you doing he's like he can't be doing shit like that he's like he's like is he
00:51:42.220
still in he didn't care he just kind of laughed at somebody yeah he's a warrant now he must be
00:51:47.020
yeah he's been for a while he got mad at me because i was making fun of him for selling all the uh
00:51:52.760
fuck was he selling there for a while oh the i yeah yeah yeah i know exactly what you're talking
00:51:58.420
about those supplements or something right and i was like what was it called i don't remember now
00:52:02.220
but it was just yeah yeah yeah i was like dude what are you doing he got all mad at me you guys
00:52:05.960
sent me all these i was like whatever billy come on yeah he was up north he was doing one of those
00:52:12.520
ranger testings or something you're clearly in a pyramid scheme here yeah but he's at the top so
00:52:17.160
it's working out well for him it's like don't do this billy what are you doing
00:52:21.440
you're clearly in a pyramid scheme yeah it was one of those like the patches they stick yeah i don't
00:52:27.680
yeah i can't remember yeah he was a good guy man like you know everybody was everybody was
00:52:34.760
yeah it was such a wild time uh-huh yeah i miss maloy him and i got along really well on tour
00:52:41.800
we were uh we were really good friends because we we didn't have a choice yeah you know
00:52:46.800
and um yeah i like maloy i'd like i'll probably reach out to him after we talk you know yeah well
00:52:53.900
tell him i said hi even though he hates me he's mad at me i hope you're doing good yeah me too man
00:52:59.080
yeah he was doing that he was doing the ranger thing i think up north with one of those units
00:53:03.540
and end of the road kind of posting at the end of his career he's almost done he was in bosnia i
00:53:08.120
think right he was been he's been around he was in for like he was one of the older guys when we got
00:53:11.820
there he was a corporal then and he but he was like he had like 10 or 12 years at the time yeah
00:53:16.720
yeah man do you he had a cd before we went back down do you remember the teddy stoneham wheelbarrow
00:53:24.060
story yes i do i've told that one a few times i watched it happen we all did i was like oh my god
00:53:32.920
he's gonna die yeah we thought people literally like plugged their ears and looked away there was a
00:53:38.740
wheelbarrow block on a foot patrol in the middle of the night and uh yeah he just fucking uh went for
00:53:44.260
it you know it was like what we waiting for he was in the british army for like 10 years
00:53:49.800
over yeah just was like fuck this i don't have time for this dummied it kicked it over in front of
00:53:54.820
everyone i thought he was gonna we thought he was gonna blow the fuck up it didn't happen i was hard
00:54:00.200
as fuck he was he certainly and his wife had just died before um you know so he didn't give a fuck
00:54:06.820
anymore like i was just uh didn't care i didn't know that yeah oh well he was my section commander
00:54:12.620
at first right this was like here's your boss like first day in the reg force right regular force i was
00:54:17.200
like here's your new boss and it's teddy stoneham that's like the hardest fucking guy in the army
00:54:22.720
he's a he had a tattoo on his arm called the teddy boys like what's the teddy boys like it was a gang
00:54:28.000
it was more gang i'm teddy we're like okay you know and i was talking to somebody's like i've heard of
00:54:33.260
that gang some gang in the uk that was like he used to he told me about like sneaking into like
00:54:37.880
an all women's school to like bang this chick like he was like this guy was an animal man
00:54:42.300
oh he was great and he retired a little while ago and he's one of those guys you worry about because
00:54:46.920
it's like man i don't know what you're gonna do without this stuff because he was he was the
00:54:50.520
infantry that's all he wanted to do and he turned down he got to sergeant was like that's all i ever
00:54:54.660
wanted i don't ever want to do anything else and they he would refuse he was a sergeant for like
00:54:58.860
longer than i was ever in the military yeah like 20 years or some shit it's like it's the best job
00:55:04.040
i enjoy it he was like in his 50s running circles around people yeah i think they did eventually force
00:55:09.920
him to leave yes and smoking after that was hilarious yeah small smoking cigarettes would show up
00:55:17.220
but he'd be like hacking a butt and running yeah this is stupid it's all in your head
00:55:23.620
are you sure about that uh well i don't know i think that smoke is in your lungs yeah he made us
00:55:31.780
do a bunch of pull-ups and was just screaming i was like jesus you know first day in the ready so
00:55:35.380
it's like you know i like you know there's lots of good dudes and people in the reserves and stuff and
00:55:39.400
you know like oh i'm in the army and i'm just kind of like it's cute that you think that
00:55:44.540
like there's a big fucking difference are you yeah like go go uh go see you know come and see
00:55:54.160
you know it's a it's a different animal different animal for sure and uh you know i'm allowed to say
00:55:59.820
these things i have dual citizenship i was a reservist first and and i was in the reg force so i make i
00:56:04.800
can make fun of either one man that is i wasn't in both but i still make fun of the reserves
00:56:14.540
oh well yeah i mean they do it themselves and i can barely hear it oh it's maybe it's me
00:56:20.820
he's here is it the purge siren it could be i'm gonna find a stupid video i wish i was just
00:56:25.420
gonna put it in the background talking makes it go outside it's not loud yeah all right
00:56:30.260
shut the fuck up you jacked him up give me a chance to put on my aviators
00:56:34.160
are you going out oh we're going with you okay let's see what happens here
00:56:47.120
we'll tag team them yeah just like the old days hey
00:57:01.780
i love how it's frozen on my face like that that's amazing that is the it always picks the
00:57:08.140
best poses um if you ever make a face like you might be sucking a dick or something that
00:57:12.600
it's like perfect and it freezes that way and stays that way
00:57:21.600
yeah this thing's a little slow internet how's everybody doing yeah man i got a cough is there
00:57:31.720
anything are you just going around yeah have you heard of any kind of flu or like virus or anything
00:57:38.500
happening yeah no i don't think so not that i'm aware of i think everything's pretty uh pretty
00:57:43.180
normal so the numbers no that's right i forgot it's been canceled i mean the numbers all say the
00:57:50.320
same everything looks the same as it's always been i don't know what does this um it's probably my
00:57:55.520
my internet is crappy but this isn't as bad as last time with skelly's it fucking slowed right down
00:57:59.400
bandwidth goes to hell it says your bandwidth is low now so yeah did you get
00:58:08.500
oh that's not what i wanted oh man yeah so oh i disappeared can you hear me i can
00:58:18.480
probably just the uh sometimes a picture doesn't can you
00:58:25.260
oh maybe losing you now whatever as long as you can still hear me
00:58:30.880
yeah that's we don't want to see i just want to that's loud coughed right in my ear right in my
00:58:37.880
fucking ears um where the fuck is this video damn it christ i wish i could find it
00:58:42.880
it's not a bunch it was just a fucking montage i have no idea not where i can find it now it's probably
00:58:49.360
yeah man um good old afghanistan i remember uh fucking uh was this you i'm pretty sure it was
00:58:57.880
yeah and it was kinger that did this to you king you remember it was uh
00:59:03.080
we were in panjway we were in uh right around i don't know it was the same day it was close around
00:59:09.740
that time and uh with a picture where you had the uh the little belt of all the ammo and stuff on
00:59:15.740
this one here and you guys were in uh we were getting it was a weird kind of like a touch and go
00:59:22.880
kind of uh gunfight i guess they would like hit us with a little bit and then run away and then
00:59:30.680
and uh you were i can't even see myself yeah i gotta
00:59:46.800
um yeah i haven't lost audio you were you were stuck in that great field and uh king was i think
00:59:55.220
it was king and they were like you guys were getting we were all getting hammered pretty good
00:59:58.360
but you had the as the you can tell in the picture here the big yeah all the ammo belts and stuff right
01:00:04.160
and you were like man are they shooting at us and king i think it was king right and he goes
01:00:08.740
they're not shooting at us they're shooting at you as he's like crawling away backwards away from you
01:00:13.820
they're shooting at you you're good he's like good luck bro i'm gonna go over here you stay here
01:00:22.900
you stay here and eat the bullets yeah fuck oh i'm coughing like crazy yeah those things are
01:00:31.440
fucking loud and that's why i can't hear anything on the left side of my head that was uh
01:00:36.460
that was in nalgam i remember that i was sleeping in the back of the lab yeah and uh they were like
01:00:44.800
okay uh we're just gonna go do a simple like uh presence patrol 1k in 1k out and i'm like taking
01:00:52.300
out my mvgs i'm stripping my kit you know and then uh boom rpg goes up drop around boom another rpg
01:01:01.940
king and i run around the corner fucking somebody fired an rpg at us man we we sprawled so fast to
01:01:08.120
that fucking ground and it blew up in the wall behind us king and i both looked at each other
01:01:12.780
like holy fuck like that was as close as it's ever been yeah and then we and then i'm trying to get
01:01:17.300
up with all this gear and then uh we just keep walking towards the sound of rpgs and gunfire
01:01:22.800
like smart people behind a wall like this little three-foot wall this yeah and like we just just
01:01:29.460
get pinned down there for like five hours man it's crazy and that was a long day we were there
01:01:33.600
what's that the tanks yeah yeah fuck man i remember i watched one of them sail right over one of the
01:01:41.680
tops of those things and it uh it looked like i couldn't tell if it hit the turret or not but it
01:01:45.540
hit the wall next to it and it just huge fucking fireball right and we just were like all right
01:01:49.580
we'll just we're gonna go the right side of the tank and then the other i think four four went on the
01:01:53.220
left side i remember being like should anybody see if they're okay like no one was listening to
01:01:58.140
everybody it was just chaos right but like they slammed right into the top of that tank and then
01:02:02.160
uh it was you know i was like are they dead in there like does anyone care there's just it's
01:02:06.340
pandemonium it's chaos i had a fucking pocket right shot right off of my leg because i i had this drink
01:02:11.760
and i know because i was looking forward to this this was i was really upset about i had one of those
01:02:15.420
milkshake fucking drink electrolyte fucking you know the mres whatever right i was like i'm gonna save
01:02:20.860
this till i get hungry i want a snack and you know right and uh i was like fuck i could i'm save i'm
01:02:26.000
going to get it and my hand goes right through my pant legs and there's just a just torn right to
01:02:29.700
fuck off and there's the bottle like over there i'll shot to hell i was like oh not my drink you
01:02:35.800
sons of you motherfucker and we were there all day man for it was like two o'clock in the afternoon
01:02:41.040
and then we basically called it off because it was just too hot and they made us uh you know got us
01:02:45.100
let us all leave and then you know because of bad trading some of these guys just got up and started
01:02:49.280
doing the um you know um like some of the better units i've been to you you know you don't stop until
01:02:54.620
you're home because when you're when you get ambushed it's going to be on the way back it's
01:02:57.800
going to be the last 10 minutes of your operation is when they're going to counterattack you or do
01:03:00.700
whatever and uh but they do the index you know that's and everybody just stands up and starts
01:03:05.180
smoking like we're back in gauge town or whatever it starts walking away casually like what are you
01:03:09.640
what what are we doing and then more rockets come in right it was like fuck and they did it
01:03:13.440
a couple more times miraculously somehow they didn't hit anybody like i was still to this day
01:03:18.800
like i almost watched i watched dick oh there's the boy
01:03:25.600
my oldest joint they've never seen me smoke it before
01:03:30.300
uh-oh daddy's smoking some weird chemicals out there
01:03:33.960
i got some explaining to do right i'll tell them it was a baby yeah makes me yeah makes me super
01:03:43.520
interested in my kids and focused in an attentive father it's terrible
01:03:52.960
it is good yeah i've been on the med i had the medical
01:04:02.420
yeah right i've had the medical prescription for a while
01:04:05.900
um yeah i'm i still have a pile of it but it's more than i can handle like i just sit on it like
01:04:11.140
i haven't ordered any in forever i still have a fuckload of it left
01:04:13.480
i usually yeah it helps me get to sleep and that kind of thing but
01:04:16.180
it's good for slowing the mind down and uh you know more than anything really
01:04:22.040
sometimes it makes me a little too crazy though and i get too paranoid
01:04:26.580
that's probably you smoke too much i find it does that if you got to take breaks you know
01:04:32.080
nah taking breaks is for pussies you just told me
01:04:39.280
this is the mefloquine kids he changes his mind every you know it's gonna happen uh
01:04:46.640
yeah yeah gonna move there's two of me yeah there's stoned mitch and then there's so yeah
01:04:53.240
really depends on you don't you never know which one you're gonna get
01:04:56.280
oh yeah i'm just watching some of this this old video man i can yeah i should stop coughing
01:05:03.240
yeah it's very loud yeah you can't feel oh that's india company there in this in this part here i think
01:05:09.920
um you can you can't feel heat from a video or from a photo and i beg to differ
01:05:16.160
yeah it was ridiculously hot there i remember when we landed in uh dubai and i got off the plane
01:05:30.820
and i landed and i started walking across the tarmac i'm like whoa it's really hot and i'm like okay
01:05:35.120
it must just be the jet and then i'm walked away i'm like okay it must just be the the black tarmac
01:05:39.920
and then i get in and i'm like no like i'm in the shade i'm like no man like it's fucking hot
01:05:44.520
that's just how it is that's how it is i would yeah when we got it yeah with dubai right it sounds
01:05:49.440
i was somebody asked me he's like how hot was it like you know when you're sitting too close to a
01:05:52.920
bonfire you know what i mean you're like oh that's uncomfortably hot on my skin it's like that but
01:05:57.620
everywhere all the time you can't get away from it you just feel like you're gonna melt yeah that's
01:06:04.940
accurate yeah and the smell of the of the beat what did somebody describe it as
01:06:09.340
uh really bad bo and hot dog water that's basically what the the towns and cities smell
01:06:14.560
like can't our cities basically that bad bo and hot dog water hmm got a nice nice uh got a nice musk
01:06:23.380
i always tell people to go to the uh camel exhibit on a hot day at the zoo
01:06:30.280
the camel exhibit on a hot day that wouldn't be bad yeah
01:06:36.940
do you remember were you there when there was only like eight of us at pbw and we thought we
01:06:46.500
and they gave us a big int briefing that like what month was it this was this was like july
01:06:54.300
june or july no i was on my uh that's when i got my leave no i remember coming back actually and
01:07:03.200
hearing about this and uh how we were doing like 24 hour manning and presence patrols yeah we were
01:07:08.560
like we're like we need 50 more men to do yeah it was retarded it was retarded but they told us they
01:07:13.000
were gonna they were coming to get us right and they said on the icon was like there's a very poorly
01:07:16.880
defended camp only so only a couple of soldiers we can easily overrun them and kill them all
01:07:22.060
we're like oh that's us for sure because there's like 10 of us right one of the other sections was
01:07:26.860
tasked out and you guys were on leave it's like there's 10 or 11 of there wasn't very many of us
01:07:30.560
here and uh and they they were coming up the argandab river there and then somebody said they
01:07:35.880
were watching them on uh on some kind of drone feed or sat in the balloon or whatever the fuck
01:07:39.720
they were using and they were like arguing the taliban were and then they attacked msg with the full
01:07:44.880
fucking full strength of all the the entire pbcli company was there the tank squadron was there
01:07:49.600
everybody was fucked there and they just got murked like you picked the wrong you went right
01:07:55.100
when you sort of went left hilarious we just watched from across the river with everybody
01:07:59.880
get fucking yeah but it was like well that was an interesting night to try and sleep a dog ran
01:08:04.920
through the perimeter hit the trip flare and i thought it was an rp because they sound similar
01:08:10.440
i fucking shot right out of bed yes they do they sound very similar yeah it's like oh yeah oh man
01:08:18.740
hey i heard something uh a couple weeks ago and it sounded just like an rpg i don't know what the
01:08:25.580
fuck it was i can't remember but was it an air i mean like a bit of a scene because i was with some
01:08:29.360
people and everybody stopped like are you okay i'm like no what was it it was out in trenton so it
01:08:34.600
was something military it would have been an air hose or air my brother who's one of my brothers
01:08:38.920
is a civilian looked at me he's like are you okay yeah yeah you know what actually i think that might
01:08:43.160
have been what it was because we were roofing yeah you're right it was it was an air gun it got me
01:08:46.720
before that's why i know yeah yeah i would like yeah terrifying yeah it got me once for that same
01:08:54.520
reason i'm stoned now so i'm not gonna make much sense that's all right i'll just no i don't make
01:08:59.300
sense anyway fucking uh we came back from from one of those and the guys were filling the
01:09:04.500
uh i think they were putting the air in the tires or something you know the air compressors built
01:09:07.680
right in the lab and they were you know and they had the air gun you know for a second it's like
01:09:12.700
they did that and like several guys were like scrambling away for a second i was like oh that's cute
01:09:17.820
we're all traumatized now look at that you know like yesterday that was no problem today everyone's
01:09:24.600
scared of air hoses like oh okay that's probably not a good sign but i don't know i wonder if people
01:09:29.820
ever get used to that i'm gonna i'm talking to some other people i'm i may be if i'm gonna confirm
01:09:34.340
with him today if he's gonna come on uh thursday which would be i mean devon the rat or you know
01:09:38.660
obviously who that is and a lot of other people do and i'd be like do you get used to that like
01:09:43.640
you know what i mean there must be a level where you kind of do but i can't imagine ever just
01:09:47.680
being completely numb to the just the sheer terror of it you know i was talking the other day like i
01:09:54.160
remember just like just turning corners and like you can just look and then you're just snap that's it
01:09:59.540
lights out everything goes dark you caught one in the face you know in that environment with all
01:10:04.860
the foliage and the bushes and shit like it was like vietnam it was crazy like it was just green
01:10:09.600
like you couldn't see shit like i don't even like fuck besides the dead ones and and some of the ones
01:10:14.500
that were running around but it was just like muzzle flashes and it was like the trees were attacking
01:10:18.660
you you know it's like you couldn't see shit except the one guy that um me and my lynch remember him
01:10:24.660
he was my fire team partner in the uh that's the rpg that hit the tree right in front of us this guy
01:10:28.980
fired it right at us man we saw him stand up look right at us and like oh no it was like i'm fucked
01:10:34.560
it was already like in the air just that split second where i was like i'd have time to turn my
01:10:38.400
head and kind of fall to the ground yeah and it hit the tree right there and then uh i had him dead
01:10:43.540
to rise i know exactly where he is i'm gonna fuck this guy up as soon as he stands up again
01:10:46.920
i had my finger on the trigger as soon as the as soon as he stands up the fucking the tank blew him away
01:10:51.220
like immediately the tank was doing the same thing so this guy because they were firing the
01:10:55.220
they're hitting the top of the tank halls too ah yeah but just the just the the fucking
01:11:00.440
sensation of that where it's like i'm in serious i'm in serious danger thanks and the labs hit a
01:11:05.780
the tanks and the labs hit people they just disappear it's like it's just like a like a cloud of pink
01:11:15.600
mist and then it just evaporates and then nothing yeah dust and mist and that's it oh yeah the
01:11:21.120
guy's rpg was like so weird went like through the air like that and that was it i mean we walked
01:11:25.640
by the spot later and there was nothing there at all wasn't even a sandal i was like just blown the
01:11:30.940
fuck away i guess well i mean he took a hesh round like point blank or something one of those the shotgun
01:11:35.480
canister shells whatever they had there yeah but i don't know i wonder if anybody i wonder if they
01:11:41.020
ever that ever goes away entirely or do you just get better at managing it near the end of the tour
01:11:45.200
um near the end of the tour i like now i know in hindsight looking back but i was uh like very
01:11:54.480
like unemotional like i had i had just there's too much suffering i couldn't take it and i just
01:11:59.280
turned myself off yeah you know like i had i had no emotions anymore you get kind of numb to it and
01:12:05.300
i never i just remember like like like i said now like looking back in hindsight
01:12:14.980
i remember like seeing those uh those those rape kids and like not giving a shit laughing
01:12:22.220
you know yeah now it's horrible now it keeps me awake at night yeah time man like the point that
01:12:29.320
i'm trying to make is is it is an environment like that like it really fucks with you it really
01:12:33.840
changes your brain it's like being on a different planet it's like a totally different like it's not
01:12:40.320
even remotely this there's nothing about that place that's anything like here at all like nothing
01:12:44.380
and uh grubby i was actually he watches a lot of these hey um i found him he found me on youtube one
01:12:50.540
day uh grubby didn't really well bro yeah me too he's in ottawa now he moved there recently and he
01:12:55.320
had one of the guys had one of these flags up at the at the rally there and he fucking came running
01:12:58.720
over and somebody messaged me he's like dude this fucking crazy army guy came in over scared the
01:13:03.000
shit he's like yeah it was grubby because he told me he's like i saw it and i ran right over
01:13:07.480
and uh and he was saying like you know so they're importing all these fucking people he's like he was
01:13:13.780
living in halifax and he's like i had to leave i had to move it was like the islamic call to prayer
01:13:17.980
every day and they're fucking everywhere like i can't it's i can't do it i had to leave now he's
01:13:23.360
living in ottawa like that's you know you know when you when you're made to not feel welcome in your own
01:13:27.960
i don't know if that that's the right term for it but it's like again you know nobody asked us if
01:13:34.280
we were okay with it you know what i mean nobody asked anyone in canada hey do you mind if we mass
01:13:38.080
import like i don't know most of the third world into your cities and oh no go right ahead nobody
01:13:43.260
asked anybody least of all us you know what would we know we were only there and and then they'll say
01:13:48.300
you're racist they're not like that those people there you don't know what you're talking no i do
01:13:52.100
actually uh i've met them i've lived with them and so yeah it's not it's not pretty you remember you
01:13:57.480
telling that story about the uh the birds the kid was eating the birds fighting the heads off the
01:14:01.280
birds yeah that's the first uh i don't know what do you what do you call them like i don't want to
01:14:08.880
keep calling them fuck boys or rape kids or anything like that rape kids t-boys aren't they is that
01:14:13.680
what they call them the t-boys i don't know they painted their nails and shit to signify yeah i do that
01:14:19.860
was yeah yeah exactly this was early in the tour you know i rolled off with the platoon commander i was
01:14:26.920
as close protection and i'm you know i get a weird vibe from this kid on the porch he's cross-legged
01:14:31.720
i go up to see him and he's got like missing teeth you know clearly developmental issues he's
01:14:38.440
undersized and he's biting the head off birds like there's like fucking 15 20 birds in between
01:14:43.200
this when he bought off in front of me and he's got all these feathers this fucking these feathers and
01:14:48.720
his hillbilly smile he's got nail polish on and i like kind of snap out of it
01:14:53.820
and what a thing to see like just stop you for a second like interpreter just just seeing that
01:14:59.900
like there's a like that fucked up kid missing teeth and he's got nail polish on and his mouth
01:15:04.840
full of feathers biting but you're just like this is definitely not canada anymore
01:15:12.900
oh yeah continue yeah and it really uh yeah yeah it really messed with me because my youngest brother
01:15:22.200
was about that age when i when we were over there yeah so i was thinking about him as i was walking
01:15:27.700
back to the lab with the platoon commander the interpreter i asked the interpreter i said what
01:15:32.460
what's what's the deal with that kid what's going on there and he's like oh that's their woman i'm
01:15:36.920
like what and he goes no man he's like that's that's what they fuck i was like holy shit and
01:15:41.640
that was just the first a and p checkpoint that we went to that day we went to a dozen of them at
01:15:46.480
least this is day one thing yeah and holy fuck that's their that's their pocket pussy yeah it's too
01:15:55.540
much it's fucked and then uh and that was yeah yeah that's what we'll call them yeah gross and that
01:16:02.280
that was kind of like um one of the first the first time i was one of the first times where i
01:16:11.180
was like oh the news is full of shit like the media just lies like cbc are liars they they will
01:16:17.900
they'll they'll look the other way and lie to fulfill an agenda they're not about the news they're
01:16:23.420
about you know making people you know telling lies and making things the way they want it to be
01:16:28.300
massaging whatever because that started to come out and we all knew this ask anybody any of the any
01:16:34.100
of the guys that were on the ground there in any country the british the australians the americans
01:16:37.600
whoever and they'll tell tell you the same story like yeah that's that's what happened that's what
01:16:40.880
goes on over there right and then that started to get out and uh cbc well cbc did an investigative
01:16:46.520
report and we found that there may have been some isolated incidents of this but widespread uh you
01:16:50.940
know child rape is just simply not a thing it's just not happening like oh it's not we all just
01:16:56.740
witnessed this all over the fucking place it's just not happening what would we know yeah like
01:17:01.060
oh you're lying to my face about something that i know i saw happen regularly you know
01:17:06.320
that was the beginning of the end you know as far as me trusting i think about those i think about
01:17:13.720
that a lot man all those kids where they're at now especially like now even more so with uh panja
01:17:22.100
wave balling probably and i think they got the whole country now right i think they got basically
01:17:25.760
everywhere yeah uh yeah it was pretty it's pretty nasty i like and there was kids that would come
01:17:31.920
and uh clean the showers and stuff and i had to like rip around a little gator thing and they'd clean
01:17:37.620
shit up like you'd employ the locals and stuff to try and help like build some kind of trust or
01:17:40.840
you know give them something to do that isn't you know working for the taliban
01:17:45.060
uh but um yeah it was just a fucking impossible task
01:17:51.360
yeah i got a story for you cool remember um i got tasked to go out and do the uh
01:18:01.720
landfill security did you ever do that the landfill security like the oh the garbage time
01:18:07.940
i've told garbage time story before but yeah you go ahead yeah
01:18:11.860
yeah yeah so this was my first time and i'm in the uh air sentry hatch which means i'm my head's out
01:18:21.420
of the vehicle yeah and we get to the landfill and i've got like a full view of what's happening
01:18:27.920
and there's a group of kids there and they're there i wouldn't say any more than 12 with this
01:18:33.620
some as young as probably four maybe older because of malnourishment but uh the garbage truck comes in
01:18:39.660
and the garbage truck doesn't stop and it just lifts up the back and it's driving slowly and all
01:18:45.580
the kids run and jump into the back of the garbage truck while the garbage is still in it and the
01:18:51.720
chute is lifted all the way up they're sliding down with the garbage into the dump and they're fighting
01:18:57.400
over everything and they're they're drinking the gatorade bottles full of piss oh man and like the big
01:19:02.880
kids are taking good stuff from the little kids and i was like what the fuck is happening here
01:19:07.300
and i just i just it never it never sat well with me like even now like it still bothers me
01:19:15.860
today like it did as if it were yesterday yeah and people here complain about how fucking hard they
01:19:20.880
got it like they're they're fighting over garbage they're fighting over our garbage
01:19:25.000
like i i watched one like so when we first got yeah and because they're looking for batteries and
01:19:32.200
valuables and shit they can bring back and trade with and this kind of shit and and um when we when
01:19:37.700
i first ripped out with the uh the patricia guys he was like watch this he's like oh what day is it and
01:19:41.540
i'm like oh it's wednesday i think he's like oh good you're gonna like this like okay and they're
01:19:45.680
all demented right they've already been there like you know what it's like when the first day of
01:19:48.680
the tour you got a brand new uniform you're like this is so exciting seven months later you're the
01:19:52.780
fucking joker you know what i mean you're just like i don't give a fuck anymore like you want
01:19:56.820
to watch somebody die this is gonna be fun you're like okay what happened to you you know and he's
01:20:03.620
like uh he's like watch this and the truck and the garbage truck comes and then an escort goes out
01:20:07.860
with it and i'm like what's going on he's like oh because they would attack and kill the drivers
01:20:10.900
to steal the garbage truck and he's like okay i'm like okay and then uh these they set a fire and
01:20:16.060
he goes out and dumps the trash in the fire to get rid you know out in front of out in front of msg
01:20:21.580
right and the kids just ran into the flames didn't even slow down just fucking booked her right in
01:20:26.080
there four five six year olds 14 you know and they're yeah and fighting over the whole thing
01:20:29.560
and i'm just like watching kids on fire running with garbage you know i'm just like this is again
01:20:34.400
this is like day two there or something like that like that's just you know it's another fucking
01:20:38.180
planet over there it's a totally like people don't fucking understand this and you know they
01:20:42.280
complain about uh you know people that think they're fucking hard over here oh man trust me
01:20:48.060
fucking shit goes south man i'm gonna i'm like you're gonna what you're gonna what you're gonna
01:20:52.560
you're gonna pull up your call of duty resume bro you have no idea you better pray that fucking
01:21:00.180
things don't because that's you know joe rogan yeah right like joe rogan talked with this and
01:21:05.220
he's like the people that are not calling for violence are the ones that are the best at it
01:21:09.800
you know like it's not you don't it's not war veterans and guys out there being like yeah let's
01:21:14.220
fuck this shit it's all these you know these leftists and these maniacs right here tearing down
01:21:17.800
statues and burn this down and burn churches and burn burn everything burn destroy civilization
01:21:22.540
like do you understand what you're asking for you don't and the people that do are trying to
01:21:26.660
stop you from doing because they know what that's going to be like and then uh he said something like
01:21:30.420
if you're if you're going to go down that road you're going to you know vilify and attack these
01:21:33.940
people who are going to perceive that you're attacking their country and everything they fought
01:21:37.000
for and stood for you're going to open a door that you can never close you know and these guys are
01:21:41.760
going to come pouring the fuck out of there and it's going to be a bad time for you
01:21:45.180
um but i don't know i mean you can't uh yeah teach people you know you're just right man once that
01:21:52.460
once that inevitable first shot gets fired that's it it's over yeah and i don't know i'd you know
01:21:57.940
it's just there's a tendency because we've been losing for so long and i wouldn't even get into
01:22:01.460
any of this stuff but the conspiracy shit like you're all up on this stuff too we've been trading
01:22:04.740
videos and shit back and forth for years and you know what i mean and uh you're you're aware of
01:22:09.760
what's going on scrolling to say yeah i'll put it that way you're you're aware of things
01:22:14.240
uh you know and fuck i forget where i was going with that but um yeah dooms doomscrolling all all
01:22:21.280
the all the nonsense um yeah it's it's crazy to watch like everything just kind of fall apart in slow
01:22:26.980
motion and uh they're cheering it on and think it's great and oh i don't know
01:22:35.020
it's sad man i didn't even uh i don't even really feel like i like i like i would even want to fight
01:22:47.340
for this country with with the way it is like we would be villains if we did you know what i mean
01:22:53.540
the uh dangerous homegrown domestic extremists you know and i guess it's a matter of time
01:23:01.020
before that's uh becomes a thing and even in the dod in the u.s they've already said that the
01:23:05.380
uh veterans in america is the number one uh number one threat to national security
01:23:10.420
like well they shouldn't be unless you're up to some shit it's a threat to the corrupt government
01:23:16.600
exactly like unless unless you're up to some shit what's the problem like they're you know or i thought
01:23:22.100
we're on the same team here and i've got no reason to fucking fight with you unless we're not on the
01:23:26.640
same team anymore then we're gonna have a fucking problem and then yeah they probably are um because
01:23:32.760
who cares more than those guys it's like well this is kind of personal to us man you know like
01:23:36.520
we buried a lot of these guys with that fucking flag on and they're gonna just burn it down and
01:23:41.520
tell us we're all racist and it's all awful and we destroy the like yeah there's gonna be a problem
01:23:46.180
with that man you're not gonna get away with that forever we'll fucking see but um you know i'm not
01:23:51.460
the only one there's a lot of i hear from guys all the time and i'm sure you talk to a lot
01:23:54.540
and you know messages i get a lot of these ones too from guys that are still in they're like dude
01:23:59.000
i wish i could say so much but i can't you know um yeah it's just sad to see where it's going
01:24:04.980
gotta be that first shot let's hope it doesn't come to that uh who are you voting for in this
01:24:17.360
election that matters so much we all know it's going to
01:24:22.000
there's too many hurt people out there suffering that the first shot's just a metaphor for an event
01:24:31.380
that starts the war right like yeah i don't i don't know if it'll be that or it'll just be
01:24:37.380
like a boiling like eventually just boils over you know like the pot's full um yeah but there is like
01:24:43.940
the yeah the unemployment all the fucking suicide it's just there's so much there's so much has been
01:24:49.400
done i've been talking about this in the last you know for a week or two now like there's just
01:24:52.380
how much how can they outrun these lies for how long all the fuckery like they're giving themselves
01:24:57.400
raises they're stealing money it's just um you know everybody else's lives are getting more difficult
01:25:02.740
and more you know hard to live with and and there seems to be just they're just making money hand over
01:25:07.660
fist and telling everybody how to live and what to do and what to think and where it like
01:25:11.300
it's like they don't have the concept that there is another move in the deck they're just like well
01:25:18.680
we it's like there i won the game i won the game of monopoly like but you cheated the whole time it's
01:25:23.380
like yeah well what are you gonna do well they could just flip the table and punch you in the face
01:25:26.940
though like it doesn't even occur to them that that's that could happen or something i don't know
01:25:32.560
it's like how do you do this how are you out of your mind i mean just watching what they get away
01:25:36.680
with is is wild sometimes the audacity of it you know
01:25:40.760
and the delay yeah but um like 90 of the population doesn't care yeah that's another problem oh that's
01:25:52.920
i think i was going to talk about uh was that you know yeah like the country's fucked like i'm more
01:25:57.900
i'm more about just like your friends and family and you know find people that you connect with and
01:26:01.700
you know network and find your friends and you know those are the people you should be living for
01:26:06.280
and helping out because i mean as far as this goes the government obviously doesn't give a shit
01:26:09.720
about us or anybody that lives here it serves to exist you know for itself um half the fucking
01:26:15.540
country is apathetic and lazy and doesn't give a shit they're out flipping cars over sports ball games
01:26:19.760
but you know where were you the last six months a year and a half they couldn't you know there's no
01:26:23.540
men anywhere they're all fucking hanging out fucking you know playing video games and do they can't be
01:26:29.180
bothered they don't give a shit so it's like why should i why should any of us and they're
01:26:32.600
gonna complain like why why don't they do something like why what do you mean do something like more
01:26:37.020
than we already have you want more now people that can't be bothered to even like uh there's a lot of
01:26:42.920
good people in the country obviously but like think of the uh like the ramp fucking uh not the the uh
01:26:47.980
the repatriation ceremonies there when they come down the highway when all the guys would come back
01:26:51.340
with the fucking the coffins and shit and they'd be like oh look at all these canadians are out on the
01:26:54.980
on the overpass like where it was like 50 people and i'm like is that supposed to be good that that
01:27:01.100
many bothered like that's all you could come up with oh there's 50 people showed up like like nobody
01:27:07.860
really gives a shit they pretend like they do they show up to these remembrance day ceremonies and
01:27:12.640
they're doing my uh virtue signal but they don't actually give a shit
01:27:15.420
go ahead i i told you the uh john snow metaphor right you know the character from the game yeah oh
01:27:26.520
yeah how did how did it go again i don't know he signs up for uh the night's watch right well by force
01:27:37.260
by force right yeah and uh he he he slowly starts to learn that it's not all duty and honor
01:27:43.600
you know it's not pretty and uh he goes north of the wall and he sees the bad guys the white walkers
01:27:50.660
and then he comes back home and tries to tell everybody about it and they think he's fucking
01:27:54.260
crazy yep yeah it's true they don't listen to uh you know now now imagine if they said he was
01:28:03.260
john snow was crazy so they tried to take his sword you need sword control john you're not allowed to
01:28:08.000
have a sword anymore no this is the only thing that could kill the white walkers you're spreading
01:28:12.740
you're just spreading hate you're spreading hate speech john snow you're freaking everybody out
01:28:17.540
about this nonsense yeah i mean there's that i mean there's like people in the veteran community
01:28:22.140
or guys that just you know they're more more more uh online or aware of human nature i guess like i
01:28:29.480
think they don't have the imagination i was talking about this around a fire one night with one of the
01:28:33.840
guys at the one of the get-togethers we had here and he's like i and he's right it's like they
01:28:38.020
don't have an imagination they can't imagine how how things could go because they're i don't know
01:28:43.120
if they're just dumb or what but not being exposed to there's another joe rogan i used to watch his
01:28:47.920
show a lot back in the day that uh you know we live in a we live in a society of smooth edges and
01:28:53.100
rounded corners no one's ever really had to suffer or work like really not really like oh man i that's
01:28:58.460
bullshit i had to fucking cram all night for these exams and i had to that's nice have you ever been
01:29:02.520
on fire in a garbage pit for rummaging for food and fighting the biggest kid in town though probably
01:29:07.600
not probably haven't so i don't think your life is that hard right so we've got all these people
01:29:12.760
that are just incapable of imagining like how bad it could get so they're oblivious to like the act
01:29:18.000
the things that they're allowing to transpire and what the consequences could be they don't think
01:29:21.940
consequences are a thing because they haven't happened before so they're never going to or
01:29:25.680
apparently and it's like they don't they want to listen to guys like us that have been exposed to
01:29:29.760
like yeah things can go fucking sideways actually and other people from like soviet countries from
01:29:34.700
from poland or from like you know you know east germany or all like you know what i mean like
01:29:39.740
from these places or they've escaped north korea we had a guy in golf company whose dad like swam out
01:29:43.820
out of the fucking country north korea i had somebody message me the other day from romania like on and
01:29:48.980
on and on and they're like these people like they won't listen to them either they'll be like this is
01:29:52.540
the same shit it's happening all over again like or cuba right like we came here to get off was right
01:29:56.500
yes he was like we came here to get away from this shit and now it's happening again and no one
01:30:01.860
will listen to the people that have already experienced it firsthand so it's like at some
01:30:06.080
point you just got to check out and be like listen you can convince who you can and and the rest are
01:30:10.000
not going to listen so it's like just move on to the next one or you know try to try and you know
01:30:14.020
prepare yourselves as best you can because there's no fucking i don't think there's any stopping what's
01:30:17.320
going to happen here it's just a matter of time no it's too many too many dominoes been knocked down
01:30:24.080
already yeah it's like a it's like a bull it's like a fucking yeah you know like a ball rolling
01:30:29.220
downhill or something you know boulder like just get out of its way you know what i mean you're not
01:30:33.740
gonna i'm gonna stop it it's the size of a volkswagen like no you're not stopping shit you just get out of
01:30:38.440
its way if you can yeah man fuck crazy times i don't really know what to think of it all to be honest
01:30:49.120
i just know that uh i really i really think this winter is going to be a bad time for a lot of
01:30:55.400
people ah winter is coming i've been thinking about saying that because it's true it is
01:31:00.860
it is coming and there's a lot of weird shit going on with the you know a lot of farms are
01:31:06.480
having problems and it's there's a drought like it just it seems like a lot of perfect storm of
01:31:11.560
bullshit's coming um you know to at least be prepared for it and i don't this election shit i don't
01:31:17.320
i'm not gonna pay i'm just gonna make fun of it like this is all stupid this is pointless
01:31:20.920
when when has this ever changed anything um it doesn't matter who you put in there like we're
01:31:26.100
gonna vote out trudeau like and put in who vote in vote out you know un puppet one and put in un
01:31:31.400
puppet two that'll make whoop yeah that's gonna matter right um it's it's stupid it's a divide
01:31:38.160
and conquer you know i mean there's no real representation anywhere for any of the people that
01:31:42.300
actually built this fucking country and made it what it is there's no one that represents any of
01:31:47.080
them anywhere i mean not that has any chance of you know when like derek sloan started his own
01:31:52.040
party like yesterday like you know and then you've got bernier with the ppc it's like it's so
01:31:58.040
you know it's like i compared it last night it was like you're trying to build a raft out of like
01:32:02.680
twigs and tree bark and shit where it's like we don't have time you know what i mean we've only got an
01:32:07.500
hour and that's gonna take i don't i think we should try and think of something else because i really
01:32:15.940
there's no excuse me there's uh there's no unity in the age of diversity yeah
01:32:25.520
diversity it's our strike when they say that it's our strength like who's exactly
01:32:30.500
because i don't think it's not doing very much for me and you
01:32:33.300
somebody's strength but not us same in america he has people on youtube are saying yeah it's a
01:32:40.960
global thing it's a global problem that's why they you know alex jones calls it the globalists
01:32:45.180
um gary shill says i'm getting ready for winter enough firewood to heat all winter i like the name
01:32:49.860
the cabal the cabal is not a bad one yeah makes it sound evil you know i like that when it sticks
01:32:56.880
yeah yeah the cabal the cabal they're coming for your children they are unironically
01:33:05.060
oh man are you guys are you guys gonna homeschool has it gotten to that point yet where you're at
01:33:12.620
we have we have been we've already been homeschooling and you know what both of my
01:33:16.860
kids are better for it yeah that's there he is right there like one of them oh yeah one of them i
01:33:22.220
don't know where they are my oldest son um yeah he uh he's on his third novel now and he was having
01:33:30.460
reading problems that's wow how he's not old i mean how old is he now yeah not much older than mine
01:33:37.140
is he what he 10 9 third novel this year yeah i can't believe that i remember i was i remember you
01:33:42.500
told me he was yeah he was uh you're trying you're trying to name him in the hospital like what do i name
01:33:48.520
this kid that was nine years ago i was like i think i said like just name him after whoever's real
01:34:03.680
dad is yeah yeah yeah i don't know where the time goes funny story is actually he's named after a dead
01:34:14.640
dog what a dog you had yeah um my wife's family and the dog's name was willie and he died the day she was
01:34:31.840
giving birth to our son oh so the name william is it stuck fair enough yeah you've got them doing
01:34:39.440
fucking pull-ups and flipping tires and he's at the age now where he's like you guys named me after
01:34:43.000
a dead dog yeah getting mad now well we were we were up we were you know up against it for time you
01:34:50.060
know so no sorry son we just had to pick something it was it was that or it was you know like reading
01:34:54.940
off of uh kaiser soze or something you know well you got 10 seconds go up with the name
01:34:59.580
uh yeah you've got them you know doing all kinds of crazy i see on your instagram there they're
01:35:06.360
always doing fucking wild stuff yeah and you're like i'm i'm raising fucking men over here he has
01:35:14.100
a pull-up goal yeah he wants to be able to do 10 pull-ups in a row and i was like okay well i put
01:35:21.440
him on like a pretty simple program and years ago he just hit eight he went from three reps to eight
01:35:27.240
reps so he's almost hit his goal already yeah and he's nine there's people there's definitely people
01:35:32.380
watching listening to this that like can't do anything he does he does them with weight now he
01:35:38.560
can do two reps with weight wow you guys are gonna get wrecked by a nine-year-old
01:35:42.820
but that's the way to do it the uh woods and taught him how to do ambush drills with bows and arrows
01:35:51.940
perfect you know just like the patriot yeah well i mean we have to it's like the the world will go
01:35:57.380
the fucking world we're going into doesn't look like it's going to be the kind that's going to be
01:36:01.420
uh you know favorable to people that are you know soft um you know the weak men hard times
01:36:08.280
fucking uh cycle we're going through right so you know you wouldn't be doing them any favors by
01:36:12.480
babying them anyway i don't know yeah well i don't know man i don't want to keep you too long did
01:36:21.500
you want to hang out for a few more minutes or do you want to uh go finish the rest of your weed and
01:36:24.500
fucking veg out on the couch and stare under the stare at the ceiling and imagine helicopter blades
01:36:29.920
anymore you lie it's been like 15 minutes what day is this man i'm serious man i got such a high
01:36:38.040
tolerance for that shit oh really ridiculous oh fuck yeah remember all the the fucking weed plants
01:36:44.200
they had over there they're like 10 feet tall and they would use them to hide in because i got some
01:36:49.880
pictures of them yeah the thermals couldn't uh couldn't couldn't pick them up as easy in the
01:36:53.860
weed because like the weed plants kept uh they like gave off so much heat themselves or something
01:36:57.900
or they're so full of water i don't know how the fuck it worked but they were like
01:37:00.780
they could hide in there those fuckers schmuck little bastards i'll never forget the horizon
01:37:08.140
of the opium fields there's so much it's like looking at it and all you can see is water yeah
01:37:15.740
i heard a story one of the guys in i company i think i don't know who it was but had like uh
01:37:22.600
like just skinned his knee or something i don't know fucking whatever but you know the season where
01:37:26.700
they were harvesting all the opium out of the bulbs and they'd cut them with those little tools or
01:37:29.880
whatever and the guys were going through a patrol through one of these fields and he put his knee
01:37:33.460
down on one of these and like it seeped into his leg and he got fucked up like on opium and they had
01:37:40.440
like kazevac him because he was gonna like overdose something like that he got off he was like i don't
01:37:46.100
feel good and they're like did you get this in your blood he's like maybe like oh god we gotta get you
01:37:50.740
out of here just as a pride just as a caution you know as a fucking precaution i guess yeah now
01:37:57.500
he's got fucking now he's got an opiate addiction which we're almost eradicated you know but uh maybe
01:38:02.980
that maybe well there's there's on the plus side maybe the taliban will eradicate all the opium
01:38:07.160
fields again because they were pretty anti-drugs back in those days and after the nato invasion
01:38:12.140
that fucking pharmaceutical companies made a lot of money but maybe they you know maybe they'll
01:38:16.140
probably cut a deal nobody can say no to that much money those afghanians are never gonna get
01:38:26.440
no peace until they burn those fields man yeah i don't know i mean whatever man they're on their
01:38:34.260
own you know we should ever should have fucking what's done is done what can you do but um learn
01:38:40.800
from it and try to fucking you know be better in the future i suppose um gary says my son at 18
01:38:47.580
tried to arm wrestle me it was so sick yeah i wouldn't want to be devin's son anybody arm wrestling
01:38:52.720
him is you can't don't even bother that's a monster yeah those those jtf guys were fucking
01:39:10.300
it's a good time oh what else what else do you keep in touch with i saw one of the pictures too i
01:39:20.400
was watching uh just skimming through trying to find something you're like what did you fucking
01:39:24.060
send me i was like i gotta get a picture to use you know use this you sent me a fucking picture of
01:39:29.000
fucking uh fucking deadpool i'm like you look different yeah you look different i don't think
01:39:36.660
i don't remember this you know i was going through them and i was like uh mike was there gobs and um
01:39:42.060
do you keep in touch with these guys you still talk to them i'm heavy i guess you do
01:39:46.860
we're on he's still in your area i think isn't he toronto i would like to
01:39:52.060
i've tried to track down uh 80 and gobris 82 years i haven't had any success
01:40:00.060
oh it's funny how like you know close you can be with somebody and then later it's like i haven't
01:40:06.920
talked to them in 10 years okay you never would think it's weird and especially with the army guys
01:40:11.160
too i remember i uh met up with a guy in pat that i hadn't seen like since that tour and it was just
01:40:16.180
like no time had passed at all it had been like eight years eight nine years or something like
01:40:22.020
that it was like we were roommates like way back then you know and then it was like yeah it was like
01:40:26.240
no time had passed at all it's wild i wish i yeah it would be interesting to get a hold of them
01:40:31.700
find out where they're all at what they're doing but i don't know i wonder if he's still in
01:40:36.760
old gobris he did he did that selection with us too didn't he i think so he did yeah
01:40:45.860
was he on ours or was he on a different serial i can't remember
01:40:48.540
he was on ours patty was on a different one patty yeah okay american psycho patty
01:40:56.880
i miss that guy man if you're watching this baby get in touch with me yeah yeah he was he got you
01:41:06.280
into the jujitsu i think didn't he are you a fucking black belt yet are you black belt yet come back
01:41:10.860
when you black belt uh i'm a shitty purple belt okay
01:41:16.040
yeah i think he got you into that i can't remember but you guys were going doing that
01:41:22.360
all the time i did it for a little while i don't i get tendonitis easy you know i was never really
01:41:29.020
big you know i like to i like kickboxing and uh muay thai and stuff like that i wasn't really big
01:41:32.760
into the wrestling and stuff but uh you know you get you get to roll around with other dudes and be
01:41:37.300
sweaty it's right up your alley you you guys uh you guys have no you guys like that stuff
01:41:46.980
all right my battery's gonna die so i gotta cut this short yeah no i get it because you're short
01:41:55.600
you're like your name and your height i think we're the same i think we're the same height
01:42:00.720
taller than you all right no you're not you're old you're shrinking actually look at me i don't know
01:42:06.020
i've probably shrunk an inch my spine is being continually compressed all right man well thanks
01:42:11.080
i appreciate it um you look like your uh neck fat got a little heavier oh oh thanks yeah yeah you
01:42:17.060
you look shitty also yeah you look you're looking have you stopped weightlifting entirely you look small
01:42:29.900
you were eating ice cream no it's not i got a four pack
01:42:42.520
yeah i enjoyed it uh thanks man i'll be in touch so we'll you know talk later we'll do
01:42:47.980
doom scroll some more instagram later or fucking uh telegram some of the shit on telegram is wild
01:42:52.360
some back and forth have you seen this if even 10 yes some bad news yeah we're yeah like if even
01:42:58.340
10 of this is true we're so fucked i'm like yeah i know so hopefully it's all wrong but
01:43:04.180
yeah all right man cheers i'll see you next time pro patria pro paycheck
01:43:12.480
yeah pro patria yeah right on brother cheers i'll see you next time later homie bye man bye
01:43:39.800
it's fun talking to those guys about some of the old uh
01:43:41.840
you know the old nonsense a lot of inside jokes and
01:43:44.740
hey you know just letting people know it's not just me
01:43:47.960
there's a lot of us a lot of us out there on the same page not everybody wants to fucking come on
01:43:53.240
do all that kind of stuff so i appreciate that and
01:43:58.780
you know we try and laugh about it a bit but it's pretty disturbing
01:44:03.700
we went through and he went through specifically
01:44:05.520
like that uh that lab fucking situation was pretty pretty nasty
01:44:08.580
you know you're picking up uh like i said it was
01:44:11.140
six guys and nine stretchers and he had to pick up the pieces literally
01:44:16.240
him and another guy uh uh seeley and a few others and
01:44:21.220
um you know and then you get told that you're the bad guy and you don't care about other
01:44:26.660
people you don't care about the country and all you know this kind of shit so
01:44:34.040
the uh liberal rule has has been sitting with people like us and how the rhetoric is going and how
01:44:39.380
we appreciate or don't so much um you know the way we're being spoken to
01:44:44.920
treated essentially is um pretty despicable so i mean it's not that uh
01:44:50.360
hard to imagine why a lot of these guys are so angry
01:44:52.680
yeah uh kelly says thanks everybody says yeah you know what i mean and it's uh it's tough to
01:45:00.060
glad he could make it and uh not tomorrow thursday i gotta go double check i'm gonna
01:45:04.520
text him now and see if he's still up for it but if uh that'll be
01:45:07.140
fucking quite an interesting guy to talk to i've never never
01:45:10.280
just over like dms and stuff right in text but i've never talked to him talked to him sat down
01:45:14.560
had a conversation with him but um thursday we'll see
01:45:18.220
be pretty fun uh greg jeffrey says i'm definitely grateful for my life
01:45:25.420
yeah the media tells you one version of reality and it's just not
01:45:28.420
correct they it's very sanitized and it's bullshit
01:45:31.300
um and he's i mean that's just one guy of like i don't know how many i could fucking bring here near that
01:45:37.100
you know they're all it's all gonna be similar versions of the same shit
01:45:40.120
uh you know kids on fire and rape and body parts and fucking oh yeah it was a dandy time
01:45:47.360
and then the government says you're asking for more than we're willing to give right now
01:45:51.380
while he gives himself a pay raise and steals a quarter of a million dollars to give to his mom
01:45:55.140
and fifty thousand dollars to his brother and on and on and on and it's not just the liberals the
01:45:59.180
fucking conservatives do it too the ndp are too incompetent to get into power but if they ever did
01:46:04.260
they will rob this fucking place blind jagmeet singh will get more fucking expensive rolex watches
01:46:08.680
and get another bmw and another you know they're all the same um they don't give a shit so you know
01:46:15.640
i think the only way out is to you know we we need to acknowledge and say that we don't need these
01:46:20.860
fucking people anymore we never did rally up all the good people you know find your friends and
01:46:26.400
network and build communities uh with like-minded people that have souls and and care and and are
01:46:32.360
willing to uh do the hard things you know not so much these fucking you know these prostitutes
01:46:38.180
that work in the government and just basically exist on your in your dime uh faith and hopes is
01:46:43.280
good good to talk about it but better to hear hard shit to go through absolutely uh yeah i'm glad you
01:46:49.360
glad you guys enjoyed it uh mentioned the yellow ribbon campaign i don't hear much about anymore yeah
01:46:54.600
that's all over it was just what have you done for me lately you know that's the attitude and uh
01:46:59.700
it's it's you know no nobody joins up and they shouldn't to to be thanked or to want parades
01:47:06.080
and nobody did um i fuck i should have brought this up to him too the uh the combat badge they
01:47:10.460
wanted to give us right or hillier did general hillier did um it just it was just something to put
01:47:15.720
on your uniform that's it to visually distinguish the guys that actually were in combat versus the
01:47:21.400
ones that were not ever shot at or blown up or fucking anything like because it's the least you
01:47:26.120
can do as just a show of respect and like gratitude you know what i mean so they can
01:47:30.400
be be shown the proper respect to someone that that deliberately volunteered you know to go
01:47:35.920
and uh no the army shut that down because it was be too hard for the other kinds of people to act
01:47:42.720
like badasses because you can't fake that there's only one way to earn those kinds of things in the
01:47:46.700
united states they have them the combat infantry badge and so on we don't have that in canada we just
01:47:50.340
have a everybody's the same we're all one big happy family team and well that's nice but you know
01:47:55.380
the least you could do is pay these guys the respect they deserve and you know you can't even
01:47:58.780
do that so you know something to think about if you're going to join the military in this country
01:48:02.800
i mean so if you know what you're getting into there um it ain't what it used to be and that
01:48:08.000
it didn't used to be that great and now it's much worse uh gdr makers i'd rather see dagelon flag
01:48:13.060
stickers and yellow rippings yeah we got to get a hold of those frank has sold so many of these and
01:48:19.680
he's doing it at cost he's not making any money but hundreds of these have gone out the door now
01:48:23.380
um another couple dozen there the other day he's got a bunch more coming it's craziness
01:48:28.440
um you guys are maniacs thank you for supporting him and that he didn't you know throw all this
01:48:32.660
money because he ordered a few hundred of these you know up front had to pay for him it's a lot
01:48:36.520
of money 28 a flag you know and uh you know he made his money back so that's great um
01:48:42.580
do what oh i could get into that but i don't i don't have time right now but yes uh angry soldier
01:48:50.980
paying for my own mental health and i'm still serving yeah it's um he's asking for more than
01:48:54.800
he's you know ding him so yeah if you want to get one uh proton uh flags of dagelon at protonmail.com
01:49:02.300
you can go pick one up if you want and uh the woobie hoodies if you want one again sean arnson
01:49:07.360
another um afghanistan uh times veteran era veteran uh badmofoco.ca and you can go support him
01:49:15.000
as well get one of those bad boys uh yeah for a picture up there on instagram oh you can see it
01:49:21.600
there here it is one of these guys one of these cool uh let's take a stupid ugly face one of these uh
01:49:28.980
sweaters here pullovers bunny hug the saskatchewan um you know go get one they rule actually they're
01:49:37.820
all sold out i think already he'll get more he'll get more in here he called me and texted me right
01:49:42.600
after that he's like dude i sold so fucking many apparently i'm woobie hoodie salesman of the year
01:49:47.280
um i'm not satisfied with that i want to go like for decade like all time i want the trophy i want to
01:49:53.380
have the goat trophy of woobie selling i'm gonna keep pushing it um gary says give frank a little
01:50:03.060
extra people i did and had to force it on him uh take it force him to take it because he's humble
01:50:07.340
yeah i know i keep telling him to like take some money for himself he won't fucking do it so i'm
01:50:10.880
gonna have to just lose money at his house or something i don't know i'm gonna have to do it
01:50:16.180
again thanks a lot frank for the flags and everything you're doing and check out the meme page
01:50:19.460
at diagonal on instagram it's hilarious and there's one on uh telegram as well uh the ferryman's
01:50:25.180
toll runs that and he's doing a little cross canada tour right now meeting up with you guys and people
01:50:29.840
all over the place and he's gonna be here next month i understand and we're gonna have a fucking
01:50:33.760
great time at the end of the month in august and the next month a whole bunch of people coming up so
01:50:39.080
look forward to that i don't know if i might uh stream part of it or i don't know what we'll do
01:50:43.440
um i don't know the priority is to just you know have a good time and meet greet
01:50:49.220
and have fun and find your friends and all that kind of thing but anyway um that's gonna do it
01:50:54.020
for now i gotta go get some food and i got stuff to do i should probably go to the gym because uh you
01:50:57.920
know he's right i'm fat my neck my neck this fucking guy you know
01:51:02.500
their neck fat's gotten wider you son of a bitch
01:51:06.860
i should probably go go get into that all right guys cheers i hope you enjoyed that and uh
01:51:14.540
there'll be more on thursday um i'll have somebody oh dylan hillier is another one he's gonna be
01:51:18.800
coming soon um yeah anytime now maybe this week or next week and i got you know it just just stick
01:51:26.640
just stick around there's all kinds of violent uh horrible shit we can hear about hear about he's
01:51:32.660
uh randy hillier's son he actually went and volunteered to go fight isis in syria because
01:51:36.460
he was bored you know felt like doing something you know got out of the army it was like ah
01:51:40.720
i feel left out you know that'll be that'd be interesting to talk to him about that and uh
01:51:45.800
his buddy another but the brother of um one of the guys uh mitch mentioned there his roommate my
01:51:50.940
roommate um kevin his brother mike did the same thing he was in the navy and then got out to go
01:51:56.640
do the same he went and go went and fucked those people up there and in syria and iraq and so on but
01:52:01.080
anyway lots more to not lots more to come so i hope you enjoyed it and uh that'll be that'll be it for
01:52:06.380
now it's another presentation of bigot 104 um i can't find the uh the song that i was playing
01:52:15.440
earlier philip you fucked you know you always do oh it's just uh yeah i'm dumb thanks so much guys
01:52:23.860
raging distant.com and tomorrow as well entropy stream.live slash raging distant here trovo and
01:52:30.000
all the other places 8 p.m eastern for 156 uh no we're gonna keep it i don't know if i'm gonna do
01:52:35.800
friday i might take friday off i'm looking at we're taking a long weekend and just uh taking a
01:52:40.660
break for a bit i might do another stream thursday night maybe i'll do wednesday and thursday and take
01:52:44.020
friday off or maybe i just won't we'll see but uh you'll find out sure we'll we'll we'll come to some
01:52:51.340
kind of uh agreement sure i can't be here every day can i feel like i got much else to do
01:53:02.120
full draw thanks again for that other one i missed it till the end i'll check it out later
01:53:07.540
gonna do some cycling gotta get rid of my italian pans as always thanks rage and thanks mitch yeah
01:53:13.420
thank you brother i hope you're doing well you and the wife and the kids and everybody else and all
01:53:18.140
the other guys that are out there if you're listening watching bro patria take care of yourselves and uh
01:53:22.580
stick around we need every single one of you we'll see you next time