493. Part 2 - Entrepreneurial Requirements Ft. Eric Spofford
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Summary
Erich Spocker is a serial entrepreneur who built a business from the ground up selling a house he bought in the worst neighborhood in the state of Maryland. He s been in the business world for almost a decade now and he s got a cool story about how he sold a business that was valued at $300 million to $500 million.
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guys welcome back to part two with eric spocker so so you sell the business so so what happens
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after that what happens next after i sell the business he gets a big old fucking check
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i got a big old fucking check i mean that process in itself in 2017 back it up a little bit there's
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this neighborhood in new hampshire which is like kind of the dopest neighborhood in the state and
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when i was still living in that apartment my first car was like this 1988 volvo that i bought for 400
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bucks and i used to smoke cigarettes at the time i used to get a big iced coffee and go in that
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neighborhood like smoke a cigarette and visualize living there fast forward i buy the sickest
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house in the neighborhood 2017 my neighbor across the street sells his business which was a staffing
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company for like 300 million and dude again this like this idea of like showing up of self-education
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of figuring it out in 2017 like i didn't understand a single thing about selling a business i if you
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said i didn't know what private equity was i didn't know i knew nothing about any of this
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but i would just watch this dude cash a 300 million dollar fucking check so what'd you do
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you fucking learned it i was like hey bro can we get lunch yeah that's right and and dude i i obsessively
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started learning everything there was to know about selling a business in that process i
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haphazardly learned how to professionalize a business because at the time dude i'm the man nobody
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can do this better than me i got fucking 17 direct reports i'm driving myself crazy i'm burning it
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from both ends and i'm bottlenecked in growth and yada yada and so i start meeting all him and all
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these other people that i'm learning from and i see that he sold this business for 300 million dollars
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and he hadn't been part of the day-to-day operation in fucking years and i was like how'd you do that so
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who was yeah well how'd that happen and so i started just learning all this stuff and i was very
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intrigued by it and um and so i crazy story but my first i learned everything i could about how to
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sell a business and i retained an investment banker in 2019 and um and we went to market and we went out
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with the the pitch book and the ndas and went through this whole process got it down to uh a couple final
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buyers i picked one my business was valued at 50 million dollars it's funny how things work out
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i was going to sell 80 percent of it for a 40 million dollar check which from 2000 that's a lot
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of fucking money and um dude it's the summer of 2019 i'm leaving visiting a marketing agency i was
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interviewing in baltimore i'm at the airport and i get a call and i answer and i've been i testified to
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the united states senate on addiction in 2015 i've been involved cool yeah i've been involved
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on the right side of politics if there is one for a long time and um friends with the governor like
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i was very politically active the politics is actually what got me more attention mixed with
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the addiction recovery early on you don't say yeah i go on fucking mfceo for four fucking years and
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preach how to make millions of dollars i go fucking start talking about bullshit going on in the world
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my show grows four times over it's crazy yeah and um and so i testify in 2015 i make a name for
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myself in my own state and in washington i help craft a couple uh federal acts around recovery and
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treatment that's awesome comprehensive addiction recovery act one and two i participated in that
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with a bunch of different senators and congress people and whatever 2019 um i'm at that airport my
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phone rings it's a washington dc number i think it's my friend a former congressman who's now
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a lobbyist i answer the phone i go what's up the woman goes eric is this eric spotford i said it is
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she says can you hold for the vice president please oh shit i said the vice i swear to fucking god i said
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the vice president of what and she said america sir mike no shit yeah and um dude he says he says he
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wants to come to new hampshire and he wants to come visit my place and he wants to address the
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opioid epidemic um and addiction crisis and of course for those guys it was about the border and
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and all this shit and uh you know was i cool with that i said shit sir i'm honored he says great i'll be
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there tuesday it was like fucking wednesday someone called me from the white house immediately after they're
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like eric we're gonna have a team on the ground tomorrow to start preparing and check the space
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out dude the next day i got this like 30 000 square foot office building i got a 9 000 square feet
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recovery center which is like i had seating for like 300 people i used to host events there and
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did all sorts of cool shit for people in recovery i'm like standing at the window and like 25
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fucking black suvs pull in and i'm like oh shit they're here this is the real deal yeah dude they
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didn't leave for five six days it was nuts fast forward day of the event they have the whole
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thing locked down secret service everywhere i got 300 of who's who's sitting in this i'm probably 250
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275 but sitting in this space um the vice president is supposed to walk through the door in 20 minutes
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and the top dog from the white house grabs me and says eric come here i gotta talk to you as i'm
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shaking hands of politicking in the room and he says this event's canceled no fucking way i said
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what do you mean this event's canceled he says there's been an incident i don't know they haven't
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told me anything about it they turned air force two around the vice president is not coming you're
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going to walk on that stage you're going to thank everyone for coming and you're going to introduce
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me and i'm going to shut this down i said fucking soldier up dog let's go i walk out on the stage i
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fucking shut the thing down he shuts it down bro donald trump a couple days later is on the
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but you know he always used to get caught on his way to the helicopter on the little lawn thing
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and donald trump i have this clip somewhere else and he says you know there there wasn't a matter
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of national security they're asking him why did they never change their schedules yeah and so they
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thought it was russia they thought it was china they thought it was like all the speculation and the
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media wouldn't leave it alone and he says it wasn't a matter of national security there was a problem
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at the site motherfucker on the site i'm the site it's my site it was my place like yeah the
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fuck do you mean this bro i'm wearing a tinfoil suit bro i got my ar-15 like i'm bugged out dude
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it was three weeks it was actually 20 days from the cancellation of the event i got this talk about
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like the shit we go through with people on the way there dude i'm 20 days in it's a monday morning
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it's 10 a.m i walk out of hr i have a meeting with my director of hr my chief people officer i'm walking
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down the hallway in corporate and my chief marketing officer former nfl player grabs me
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and uh he had like had a career in it he played for the giants played for the bucks huge dude
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fucking lovable guy if you met him today you'd love him funny as fuck he's great says to me uh i need
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to talk to you so dude i'm a little busy it's like 10 a.m on monday like there's a lot going on
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it's no real shit i need to talk he's also one of my best friends yeah pulls me into his office
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tells me bro it's 2019 i just gave the dude a fucking medallion for 13 years of sobriety and
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alcoholics anonymous like two minutes two months this guy this guy he looks at me he goes dude
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this is a crazy story but i gotta tell you in 2017 i relapsed on pain meds it turned to fentanyl and
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dope i met a girl she introduced me to a dope dealer i was driving the packages he got busted by
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the dea i got busted by the dea i've been an undercover informant for the dea for the last two fucking
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years and the dea told secret service that i work here and i was in the building
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and that's why that event was canceled oh the feds forced me to take a fucking charge
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and they they are releasing the information right now i said can you say that again like can you walk
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me through this one more fucking time dude the head i said we got to get out of the building let's go
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we'll figure this out we leave i call my lawyer this is three weeks after the thing three weeks
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after the thing the feds fucking forced the kid to plead guilty to a charge as part of his plea
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agreement yeah and then fed it to the media political breaks the story first and by fucking
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noontime i have fox msnbc cnn and every other one of these fucking assholes you can think of
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in front of my house and the national headline was mike pence's visit to new hampshire canceled to avoid
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meeting drug dealer i own a drug rehabilitation business jesus it was a fucking nightmare bro jesus
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the private equity company calls me at 3 p.m uh as i'm like firefighting talking to pr people
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lawyers and fucking every other person explaining that i'm not part of a drug trafficking operation
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yeah and um i picked up the phone oh so they're talking about him him in the headline yeah got it
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him yeah he's the guy yeah they're not talking about your past no no no yeah he fucking there you go
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yeah that's fucking crazy fucking crazy and um and
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dude it was fucking bananas bro the oh the private equity company uh guy guy calls me and i said
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hey he goes we're out i go i figured yeah and so here i am in 2019 with my dick in my hand bro i
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owed the irs a couple million bucks i had no cash um and dude i was left to fight for my life
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yeah it's crazy it was nuts but anyways that was part of the process of selling that would have been
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uh it would have been nice for them to just uh not fucking ask you to come huh not ask to come to see
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you i could have i could have just said no and i would but here's the crazy thing i i i would have
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got 40 million what i didn't know at the time was i would have got 40 million dollars i would have had
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to pay taxes on it and i wouldn't have the cash flow for the dude i ended up selling the thing for
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115 yeah two years later yeah and so then i i've had two of those episodes not quite like that but
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where where we had big offers and i said no and both times i'm at the time thank god really yeah
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exactly thank god huge blessings and the other thing i didn't realize was that they would have fired
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me within six months yeah i would have 20 equity and they would have fired all your fucking staff too
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all of them that's a whole nother thing the whole they don't give a fuck about the people right i
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would have been miserable but anyways fast forward a couple years i closed three minority deals um
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to take cash off the table at a growing valuation i finally exit for the 115 after a 10-month process
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in december of 21 i had bought a house in miami i bought all the toys um and the original question
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which i sidetracked from apologies but it was what happens then did i get a pile of cash i'm in miami
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i'm a recently single dude and uh it was a wild couple months yeah and then um and then i got
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bored and miserable and i was like i gotta get back in the game yeah and so i like a little i thought
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i would honestly looking back like i knew it wasn't gonna last forever there's only so many days you can
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like wake up go out go on your boat like you don't like try to occupy your time with like all this
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shit you can't go from being that driven bro no to fucking nothing i but i thought i would last
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longer yeah and like two and a half months i was like done were you training and shit then like
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like fitness wise oh yeah yeah yeah always yeah and dude remind you i'm i wasn't like i'm sober so
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yeah like i'm going out drinking red bulls yeah hanging out with pretty girls that's true doing
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shit like that but like i'm eating right i'm working out and like i'm so i think our worst
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things would have been if you weren't yeah but i'm gonna shit show but then i decided to pivot back
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and um and start opening some more companies and so i've launched another addiction treatment
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business we um we've been revenue positive uh and open since january 1st we opened on new year's
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day in columbus ohio 23 so brand new brand new that's cool man brand new couple months and uh we
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have the first one is open staffed i mean the last 90 days i've onboarded 110 employees uh growing back
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doing what i love every day yeah just up and at them and we have the next four sites we've i purchased
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a real estate that's all being developed now and so we will be if all goes to plan inside of
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24 months we'll be at somewhere between 80 and 90 million top line that's crazy dude plus the real
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estate assets so they didn't give you guys a non-compete or anything only for the new england
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states oh okay well they really know how to hurt me with that one it's like i fucking hate it here
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anyway i'm going to miami oh man that sucks okay yeah yeah yeah i was like the whole time like
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guys you're killing me with this new england so what do you think dude so like there's a lot of
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people that listen right and they're they're they're listening and they're they're in the process
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i mean what do you like if you had to like i know this is kind of putting you on the spot a little
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bit with coming up with some things but like what do you what do you think the most important skill
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sets like if you had to name like let's say three that you that you personally have that have helped
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you go from you know basically less than zero okay like really in a really bad spot addicted to drugs
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where everybody doesn't want to be to where everybody does want to be where you're living
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in an oceanfront property in miami one of the coolest cities on the earth you're driving the
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coolest shit you're flying on your own fucking airplane yeah i mean what what if you like if i was
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fucking you know 17 bro and i'm my life is a fucking wreck right now or 25 my life is a wreck
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the uncommon path it produces an uncommon life like the amount of decisions that i had to do that
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when my life was a wreck i had to look you know your life is your life those people that i was with
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at the time were my friends i had to look at all of them and say i gotta go and i can never speak to
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you again or it's gonna be a long time before we do and you know i my entire 20s and i got sober
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almost 22 years old my entire 20s i never went to a nightclub i never went out i never like i just
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lived in a very unorthodox manner which at the time like i love the stuff you talk about like i
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started my business before myspace there's no instagram there was no none of that gives you a
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massive a massive advantage over everybody these days yeah but three attributes i think resiliency
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right you have to be resilient like resiliency mixed with optimism like getting up and getting
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punched in the face every fucking day and doing it again tomorrow work ethic which is kind of what
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i was talking about about like being able to go the extra mile and and however you want to look
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at it sacrifice or make the investment in your business and in your future um and back to that
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ability to learn like you really are limited by your capacity in which you can learn and so like right
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now i hang out or i i i seek mentorship and guidance from people like you and and guys that are worth
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hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars and billions of dollars and they think in an entirely
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different way a billionaire what i've realized thinks entirely different than someone that just cracked
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into a hundred million nine figure or a deca millionaire or a millionaire like and so just
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that self-limiting mindset being able to remove that and continue to learn and grow and self-educate
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dude i i i really i really like your view on the the self-education part of it because
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it's funny because we live in this time where we have access to more information than we've ever had
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but we also live in a time where people are utilizing the information available less less
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than they ever have isn't that unbelievable it's weird isn't it it's so weird and i i so i did a
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little coaching thing so i talked to a lot of entrepreneurs and i'm like do you understand
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i used to go to the fucking library and use what was called the dewey decimal system to find a fucking
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book on a shelf to fucking take it home and read it or i would sit in barnes and noble because i
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couldn't afford the book like you can literally look in your phone and and have access to all
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this information and and they just take it for granted dude it's that's i think i think there's a
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massive advantage for people like you and me who have had to to survive and and thrive as ambitious
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driven people without the internet i think it's a massive fucking advantage bro me me running my
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business that first seven or eight years before like social media really became a thing because
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remember facebook was just for college kids and it wasn't for the public at first it was for
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university students yeah instagram wasn't a fucking thing so it was facebook and that was really it my
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space okay which was like what 2007 8 8 9 like that wasn't like it wasn't applicable for any sort of
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business growth that's right it was just your friends right and the which by the way i kind of
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missed that about social media that was much better social media tom bring it back bro bring it back
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open the algorithm top friends yeah the bet bro top friends i'll keep you my top friends this time bro
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poor tom but like dude those those guys i know those guys actually and they should bring it back
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but anyhow um the point is is that like dude you know i try to explain this to these younger people
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and they just don't fucking get it like bro i had to go fucking heel toe my fat ass around fucking
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springfield missouri knocking on fucking doors bro saying hey guys uh i'm andy who the fuck is andy
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like no one gives a fuck who andy is back then oh you're disturbing my fucking whatever right and i'm like
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well you know if you ever want to get in shape like we got this like dude i did that for years
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yeah you know what i'm saying like there it's just different and i'm very thankful that i grew up
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without it because now i'm like equipped to do whatever the fuck i need to do do you know what also
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um falls in the same line of that is the fact that both you and i lived and worked and grinded and
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hustled through 08 09 yeah through that recession deal and so huge deal right now huge because of
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everything that is happening now and what's to come yeah i just did a story on this on fucking
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ig yesterday bro oh did you i was talking about like look the real people who have been through
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this shit already like i could tell you this i'm fucking salivating i'm like holy fuck bro i'm like
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all these other motherfuckers that compete with me are going to get fucking destroyed yeah and i'm
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going to gobble up all their market yeah because i because i've been through it i know exactly how it's
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going to go everybody's going to go in their shell everybody's going to wait and and here's
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the problem they're going to fall for the bullshit yeah yeah i'm down in miami like hey what happened
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to all you guys making millions of dollars on fucking nfts yeah what happened to this stupid
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shit right all you motherfuckers and they called us all stupid like bro you know how many of these
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motherfuckers with the nfts hit me up and they're like bro get yourself this one and that one i'm like
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motherfucker it is a fucking picture on the fucking internet that you want me to pay hundreds
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of thousands of dollars i know this has got it like i'm sorry but this has to be the dumbest shit
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i've ever heard my entire fucking life dude when i saw that happen i was like this is definitely the
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top and we're fucked well i like we're fucked like yeah like the second people are spending hundreds
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of thousands of dollars of this picture that you own for status right to show somebody yeah like
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we're we can only go down from here because we have eclipsed the stupidest fucking shit we could
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possibly think of like we've created people don't understand we've achieved that dude 100 yeah people
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don't understand i'll probably take a lot of hits for that no it's fucking real shit it's like i just
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looked at that whole thing in miami was like there was too much money that's what i mean we're living
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we lived right now right now we're having a correction back to reality back to reality that's
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what we're having yeah you motherfuckers what the shit's falling apart which it actually is and you're
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gonna have to be tactful to move through it but it'll still be there separate the real from the
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dude and i can't wait i can't either i can't wait i can't either dude when i for the last eight
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fucking years i've seen on the internet all these fucking guys who don't do shit who don't have a
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company they don't ship a product they don't have a real service i've seen them making millions of
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dollars repeating and regurgitating shit that i've said yeah shit that i've said personally that i
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learned from growing actual companies i see them repeating the shit and charging people for it
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you motherfuckers are gonna get your fucking ass beat like that's reality like you guys the people
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get your teeth kicked in those people are and most of them i'm 38 years old and so in i was 23 in 2008
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and most 23 year olds in 2008 were not starting businesses right they were all fucking off yeah
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whatever it is they did and so you gotta think like everyone younger than me has done not not much
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recollection of what that was like that's what i'm saying like they don't know like dude they don't
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know they didn't watch people go out and try to get a job for nine months doing interviews every
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other day yeah they didn't see people lose their fucking homes because they got laid off they're
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still not they're starting feeling that kind of pain yet like it hasn't even started hasn't even
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started yeah dude and everyone who's been around long enough that i've talked to shares the same
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thing that we agree upon that this hasn't even started no dude because they never seen it yeah
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people never saw it like dude i like how much worse can it get a lot fucking worse dude and all
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you motherfuckers out there saying well i don't feel like working or i don't feel like you know
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going into the office or i don't this or that i hope you fucking starve bro you well they're gonna
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starve i know they're these people have we we in the united states of america what we're suffering with
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right now is an embarrassment of fucking riches okay we've been so fucking financially successful
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as a country that a literal moron could make money doing it over the last they were with pictures
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of monkeys yes dude for real i'm serious i drove me nuts so dude now we're getting back into a
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competitive atmosphere where people are going to be discerning with where they spend their money
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yeah they're going to protect their money they're going to be careful where they spend it they're
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going to spend it with certain people that they like they're going to support causes with their
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dollars like dude we're moving into a completely different environment and all these spoiled
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people who fucking you know they're saying shit like oh dude you know i think i'm just going to
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travel the world in a fucking van and experience bro you guys are fucked fucked you're so fucked
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it's going to get so fucking hard to earn money because money is going to become scarce scarce and
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people are going to protect it they're not going to spend it on your fucking bullshit coaching if you
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don't have real shit because dude the real killers they see this as an opportunity 100x they see it
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as like fuck like dude most of these people are saying well we're gonna we're gonna show you how
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to survive motherfucker no if you're thinking about it the right way this is where you leverage up and
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you level from where you are to maybe maybe two or three levels higher than you are because everybody
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else stops everybody else goes in their turtle shell and says fuck dude it's scary out there and
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and dude what happens is they never come the fuck back out they never come out you know a lot of the
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stuff that you talk about with politics and what's going on in the world and all of that is so spot on
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and it really it it makes me think of when we came through 2008 9 10 the world was never the fucking
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same again yeah it was this transitioning period that a lot of things fucking changed and we're going
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into another winter another dark time that the same thing's going to happen and what what has happened
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is the separation of wealth and the death of the middle class and so like is it wrong yeah like
00:24:46.080
there's so many principles of philosophy and ideologies that we could fucking stand on and be
00:24:50.700
pissed off and fucking bang the table over of our you know patriotism and all this stuff but at the
00:24:56.880
end of the day the game's the game yeah and you better learn how to fucking play to win yeah and
00:25:01.380
you're gonna get caught out there yeah and you're gonna fucking die and you have to learn how to do it in
00:25:06.200
an environment that's the rules that apply five years ago do not apply anymore yeah they don't
00:25:11.280
apply anymore and you're still seeing people say the shit they were saying five years ago not
00:25:16.020
understanding that we're moving into a completely different environment dude it's easy to fucking
00:25:20.280
sell widgets when everybody's got money to waste on widgets yep it's a completely different thing to
00:25:25.480
sell widgets that nobody fucking needs when nobody has any money you're gonna start great example of
00:25:32.520
that is i'm in miami and i got all these people that are fucking printing money during this good
00:25:37.660
times this last few years in the airbnb space either renting or owning fucking spaces putting them out
00:25:44.380
on airbnb and blah blah you know how many times i've heard about the missed opportunity that i've had
00:25:49.440
bro you know what i own i own fucking b-class residential fucking real estate c fuck single family
00:25:56.320
homes and apartments most of it's section eight yeah i'm doing just fine yeah because there's always
00:26:03.500
a need for that there's always a need for that that's what i'm trying and i'm in health care
00:26:06.960
services like that's what i'm thinking into this yeah it's also that's sort of vertically integrating
00:26:11.440
your business yeah if we're being real i know most of the drug problem is in those communities so
00:26:17.140
well the drug problem that we see there's a completely different drug problem at the top and nobody
00:26:21.880
talks about at all levels yeah yeah um but the you know when when we really think about it dude
00:26:30.180
you know you guys who are out there selling bullshit like like and dude you could see it like you can
00:26:36.240
see it coming and unraveling because you're seeing people who at least i'm seeing it i'm pretty perceptive
00:26:44.060
and i think i'm more perceptive than the average person when it comes to this but you're seeing people
00:26:48.980
who have been around on the internet for a while starting to like come up with all these different
00:26:54.300
ways to sell shit like it's this shit that they weren't doing before and what i see is panic i see
00:27:01.060
okay what they were doing isn't selling quite the same way because there wasn't real value in it
00:27:05.880
because they were taking advantage of the uh the good weather economically right like people had cash
00:27:11.900
they're willing to throw a little bit over here even if it doesn't have a whole lot of value
00:27:14.940
i'll try this out now we're dealing with entire protected class of currency right like people have
00:27:21.540
less money so they spend their it's not that they spend less it's that they're more selective on where
00:27:26.140
they spend the money and so i'm seeing all these people now trying to like adjust what they do
00:27:30.560
like i'm seeing dudes who sold like coaching now all of a sudden talk like shit that they there's not
00:27:36.320
their core thing all of a sudden they're they're selling it you're seeing a lot of these influencers for
00:27:40.640
the last seven years who were making big money representing other products and then got too big
00:27:46.400
to fucking really like be a part of those things and you're seeing them go back to their roots and
00:27:50.660
try to like really hustle again and dude so i'm starting to see the panic start to happen but like
00:27:55.560
bro you guys you have no idea how bad that's going to get because it's going to get way worse and it's
00:28:00.220
going to get to the point where you know this is why i say like if you're a small business and you can
00:28:05.020
stay on the gas right now there's a tremendous opportunity for you to pick up quality talent
00:28:09.700
because a lot of the quality talent at some of these other businesses that aren't managed or
00:28:13.700
thought or philosophically uh led properly strategically led properly those people are
00:28:19.740
being laid off or they're leaving so like dude i'm looking at it as a massive opportunity for
00:28:24.440
everything that i'm in it's like pick up quality people gain massive market share uh go in when
00:28:30.260
everybody else pulls back you know like yeah it's i'm excited i think it's i know it's going to be hard
00:28:36.080
but like dude i'm built for the fucking fight i i love the fight bro when shit's good i get bored
00:28:40.740
like like when it like when shit like for the last six or seven years where it was just like
00:28:45.780
it was just easy it was boring like i'm a fucking fighter bro like i'm built for the fucking battle
00:28:52.280
so like to me dude like i'm looking around and i'm like there's not much i like more than a gun to
00:28:56.940
the head situation that's what i'm saying bro the truth is is that that's when your best shit comes
00:29:02.260
100 for me my best shit comes out when it has to come out it's for the love of the game it's like
00:29:08.200
fuck i have to do this yeah like i think that's true for everybody but most people avoid it's like
00:29:13.000
a gambling sickness almost it's like everything all the chips are in well do you think about it
00:29:17.860
like this bro most people avoid those high pressure situations i love that most people avoid the daily
00:29:24.120
discomfort yeah you know most people don't eat right they don't train hard they don't fucking take
00:29:28.940
care of themselves yeah and the reason that they don't do any of these things is because they're
00:29:32.400
trying to avoid the pain they don't understand that the pain that you actually experience by doing the
00:29:38.680
difficult things actually is what brings out the best shit inside of you i i cannot be my ultimate
00:29:46.020
creative self unless my back is on the wall yep and that's why i talk so much about cultivating
00:29:51.460
zero option mentality you have to cultivate that mentality of not having any options even when
00:29:57.340
things are good and i've been fortunate enough to be able to keep that the entire time yeah but now
00:30:03.740
a lot of you guys are going to learn it by default because you're going to get pushed up against the
00:30:07.140
wall and we're going to find out who actually can respond under pressure and who doesn't and like
00:30:13.440
dude my personal opinion i don't know what you think but i think there's a lot of people out there
00:30:17.740
because statistically you know entrepreneurship is seven to eight percent of the population
00:30:23.420
that's that's been the that's been from for the last 50 years one percent of those is successful
00:30:30.460
so we're dealing with a small mind isn't that a crazy statistic it is crazy but here's the thing
00:30:36.520
how many people do you see calling themselves entrepreneurs now all everybody it's the fucking
00:30:43.280
cool thing and reason it's getting the reason you're starting to see all these knuckle fucks that
00:30:47.800
don't have any experience starting to coach people in business is not because they're good at
00:30:51.800
business it's actually because they're not good at business and they're trying to fucking create
00:30:55.680
cash flow to fund their business no doubt so that they can stay alive and you don't see it as easy
00:31:00.980
money and a lot of you guys dude like you're paying like bro let me tell you something if you're paying
00:31:06.180
someone to fucking coach you or you're a part of a coaching group and that motherfucker hasn't built
00:31:10.280
a real company that's what you're wasting your fucking money check the resume yeah you have what have
00:31:14.700
you done what have you actually built what have you actually sold how many employees like in detail what is
00:31:20.100
the fucking resume of the people that that you're doing this you know it's going to be an interesting
00:31:24.060
time because the market is the biggest gangster of them all yeah and it's gonna fucking purge itself
00:31:31.200
over these next couple years and so the people that have bullshit products bullshit quality that you
00:31:38.640
know really little trends and trinkets and not like dude who's gonna who's gonna thrive in this
00:31:44.920
best-in-class operators people that know how to build real companies that have real quality that have
00:31:50.640
real people that understand the value of brand and know how to build a fucking actual brand they're
00:31:56.980
gonna fucking survive and they're gonna thrive and do incredibly well people that understand how to pivot
00:32:02.660
and move into stuff and products and services that are necessities over luxuries it's like the exact reason
00:32:10.940
why all these airbnb people are gonna fucking die yeah you know how many people this is interesting do
00:32:15.140
you know how many people in the last six months have come to me with airbnb businesses and asked me how
00:32:21.500
to turn them into halfway houses and sober livings probably a lot fucking 50 yeah what happened i thought
00:32:27.740
you were killing it bro they see dude it's it's the new it's the new easy fucking sparkly shiny thing
00:32:35.460
and like you know they they hear you just like you heard your neighbor exit they hear you exit and they're
00:32:40.280
like well fuck dude i got all these things i can do what spotford's doing they think it's fucking easy
00:32:44.220
but yes but it's also because they're not booking airbnbs oh for sure because people aren't spending money
00:32:51.080
next that's 100 yeah that's dude that's what you're it's the same thing as what i was saying a minute ago
00:32:56.040
you're seeing all these people who were typically doing other things now they're trying to do all these new things
00:33:01.520
and it's like dude the reason they would if this is working spot on if this was fucking working they
00:33:06.760
wouldn't be doing all these new things yep and it's just like that's exactly what you're saying
00:33:10.480
yeah it's the same thing i think there's a lot i think we're going to be surprised too i think we're
00:33:14.220
going to be surprised to see that there's going to be uh some very big uh very famous people eat a
00:33:21.300
fucking dick what's going on no i'm being real dude yeah being real like i see it coming dude
00:33:26.940
a lot of these people are overextended a lot of these people are fucking highly leveraged uh in
00:33:32.440
every area their cars are leveraged their houses leveraged their businesses leveraged how much how
00:33:36.560
much of going through 2008 recession impacted decisions over the last 10 12 years in your
00:33:45.120
business building it in safety for the next all of it exactly all of it exactly all of it i didn't
00:33:51.980
i never you knew there was never there was never a drop of intensity or urgency for me
00:33:57.540
to grow our brand and build a secure brand um like for example like i was talking to a investment banker
00:34:03.740
guy yesterday and he was we were talking about valuation of businesses and you know we're a debt
00:34:08.640
free company so like i don't owe fucking anybody a dollar and he was like yeah most investment bankers
00:34:14.660
would think you're an idiot i said yeah they would until they saw that ebita until they saw that
00:34:18.440
fucking equity until they saw that fucking 10x fucking value that i my companies weren't for
00:34:23.920
this for the top line sales that we do because of the way i built it over the last 12 years
00:34:28.240
it's probably worth 10 times more than this company with the same top line do you know what's so
00:34:32.540
we own all our customer fucking information like dude we we sell direct to the consumer because
00:34:36.980
and people don't understand that most companies are strapped with so much debt and so if you sold
00:34:40.840
there's a waterfall structure of who gets paid first yeah and that debt when i sold my we were
00:34:45.540
debt free i've never had a dollar in debt i never took a dollar the reason i never had a dollar in
00:34:49.400
debt bro is because no one would give me any money it turned out to be a blessing yeah you didn't have
00:34:53.060
a choice yeah i didn't have a choice yeah bro in 2010 or 2007 right before the banking collapsed
00:34:58.980
i went to fucking 30 banks over the course of a month and a half bro in my fucking men's warehouse
00:35:04.240
suit fucking you know bro no that was the answer was no from everybody it was greatest thing that
00:35:10.880
ever happened yeah because i had to figure out how to fucking do it without bootstrapping yeah that's
00:35:14.900
exactly it you know i started in 2008 and i you know because i was so new to business and new to
00:35:21.680
acclimating to real life and not the drug world like i didn't understand what banking had looked
00:35:27.040
like prior to that like i couldn't i remember walking into bank of america in 2009 maybe early 2010
00:35:33.260
with 100 grand cash in the bank which for 22 3 4 however old i was was a lot of fucking money back then
00:35:41.040
and i remember asking them i said hey listen you know i fucked my credit up because i'm in recovery
00:35:45.300
i made some bad decisions back in the day i haven't done that in a long time i got a bunch of money in
00:35:49.020
your bank can i get a credit card like i got you i understand you have your secured credit card
00:35:54.020
program for like people trying to build credit you give me a card worth 500 you lock up 500 of my money
00:35:59.600
there's zero chance for you to fucking lose anything no they denied me yeah that's right like that's how
00:36:05.140
hard it got yeah people don't realize that dude my dad we had after after a couple years of my
00:36:12.240
parents divorce and he was renting a bedroom and all that um he had saved up and he bought a modest
00:36:17.300
like one story little ranch house and uh he bought it in i don't know 1999 or something and so you know
00:36:24.520
over time of course he built equity in the house and he had like a hundred thousand dollar line of credit
00:36:29.860
on the house he was extended fifty thousand dollars on it he would extend it pay it down
00:36:34.800
extend it pay it down fucking overnight they dropped the line of credit from a hundred down to what he
00:36:40.460
had spent on it smoked his debt to income ratio and totally fucked him financially yeah and they do that
00:36:47.600
without any warning like you think these people give a fuck about you they don't care like it's
00:36:51.960
sorry it's sorry mr spotford you know it's it's bank policy yeah how is your relationship with
00:36:57.960
it dude i tortured that man growing up i mean the amount of we didn't get too much into like what
00:37:03.920
the heyday was like for me but like dude i've i've walked into that house stabbed fucking got my head
00:37:11.180
split open by a crowbar bleeding all over the fucking plate like i mean this stress i put this dude under
00:37:16.020
was like unbelievable yeah and now in my house in new hampshire i was able he had some health issues
00:37:21.620
in a couple strokes heart attack open heart surgery and uh and seven years ago i was able to retire him
00:37:27.840
like you want to talk about why you're successful do you know how fucking cool it was to make my dad
00:37:32.640
proud it's like one of the coolest things i've ever done is make my dad proud and so i moved i i have
00:37:39.240
this big like 16 000 square foot house really nice place and it's got his own in-law apartment and i
00:37:44.900
moved him in with me seven years ago that's awesome and so he's like the best papa in the world i got
00:37:50.060
two boys i got uh gavin who's who'll be 12 in june and i got a younger one uh named mace who's a year
00:37:56.440
and a half and um and he's just like a professional papa now you know and we're as tight as we could
00:38:02.720
be he was always my guy my whole life i just put him through so much yeah that's awesome you know
00:38:07.240
yeah that's fun overdosing fucking you know it's such a weird contrast of like like my message of
00:38:14.760
what i try to put out in the world is like you can fucking do anything like i remember coming out of
00:38:19.440
my fourth overdose and then pulling me off a life support dude and they're they're taking me off the
00:38:24.240
sedative drugs as they're pulling breathing tubes out of me and i'm looking at my dad and my dad's
00:38:29.280
tough as nails dude my dad's 300 pounds logger fucking one of the toughest dudes i've ever met
00:38:36.120
in my life and he's standing in the corner of the hospital room and as i'm coming to i'm watching him
00:38:41.220
cry for the first time and like now like my like i don't know how else to describe that but like
00:38:49.620
like i get to take i get to take care of the man i get to make him proud you know what i mean i mean
00:38:55.140
i gotta tell him i gotta tell him i'm like dad you gotta shut the fuck up and like stop bragging
00:38:59.580
about all this shit we got you know what i mean like i was the guy that because of everything
00:39:03.940
we've discussed and everything you've talked about i spent years hiding my wealth and hiding
00:39:07.880
my success i had the lamborghini and all that shit and i would literally drive it out of my
00:39:12.960
neighborhood trying to hide to get on the highway to get out of town to go out to dinner
00:39:16.380
yeah to somewhere where nobody would see me with it yeah and my dad would be out there
00:39:20.220
that was me for a long time too yeah yeah my dad would be like my kid has three lamborghinis
00:39:24.600
i'm like you gotta shut the fuck up you're gonna get us in trouble you know bro i was scared i was
00:39:30.120
always scared i had my lamborghini for a long my first lambo yeah for a long time before anybody knew
00:39:36.160
it the only reason that people found out about it yeah it was because i took it to dinner i took
00:39:40.940
emily to dinner one night and as i was walking as i was walking in of getting i got out of
00:39:46.360
the car as i was walking into the restaurant one of my main employees was walking out and he
00:39:51.500
fucking saw me getting out of the car and he he was pissed not pissed about the car he was pissed
00:39:56.580
i didn't fucking tell him i had the car and then i realized holy shit like i got the right people
00:40:01.480
that that are rooting for me yeah and like that changed my perspective on it my first car my first
00:40:06.620
supercar exotic car was a lamborghini huracan yeah and um we all have that moment right yeah dude i was
00:40:12.480
driving it and i ran out of gas it's like the stupidest fucking thing in the world and so here
00:40:17.780
i am uh on the side of the road out of gas waiting for i forget who someone to bring me a tank of gas
00:40:24.080
to put in this car and one of my treatment centers was close by and one of the things that we would do
00:40:30.420
is drive the clients around in 15 passenger fucking white passenger vans bus vans whatever but there's
00:40:37.640
like a platoon of them bro yeah and so here i am sitting on the hood of my fucking lambo totally
00:40:42.220
not thinking and six vans full of patients at my treatment center and my staff go by losing their
00:40:48.480
minds i was like shit i'm nabbed yeah it's over dude i realized i had a good buddy of mine who told
00:40:54.020
me gave me a good piece of advice about that he goes uh he had some he had some cars and shit and
00:41:00.360
like was a was a good influence for me in my life he ended up not not doing making some good
00:41:04.940
decisions on him um but he's a good influence for me and he's i said i asked him i said hey man
00:41:11.280
and this is my first cool car like i ever owned was a uh an aston martin vantage so i bought yeah
00:41:18.080
an aston martin vantage uh this was like 2011 and uh it was a it was a 07 model that had like 30 000
00:41:25.580
miles so it's kind of a cheater car right like it was like it was cool but it was also used heavily
00:41:30.800
yeah it was still asking huh it's still asking oh that's right no one knew how many miles around
00:41:34.840
the motherfucker i still got it though and uh i was asking my buddy i'm like dude i'm like and he
00:41:40.740
had some badass shit and i was like dude do you ever like get worried that your employees are gonna
00:41:45.860
fucking hate you for driving your shit and he looked me right in the face he goes why would you
00:41:49.160
want any employees that don't want that for themselves damn and i'm like fuck that's a fucking
00:41:55.620
great point yeah and ever ever since then i never gave a fuck like if you fucking get turned
00:41:59.580
off by my success then you don't belong working with me bitch yeah like go work for somebody who's
00:42:03.160
broke you know what i'm saying like that's fucking how i feel about it i love that yeah it's real good
00:42:07.800
advice and it stuck with me he i mean bro he was dead serious too there was no like it wasn't like a
00:42:12.880
conversation he was just asking that question it was hard for me with that topic because of the
00:42:18.220
nature of my business yeah there's two ways to tell the story this eric spofford helped 50 60 000
00:42:23.660
people change their lives which is true yeah and made a lot of money doing it as he fucking should
00:42:28.580
yeah and it built a big business the other one was i'll look at him getting rich off drug addicts
00:42:33.780
yeah helping people it's like yeah you can't fuck with that who cares nah dude exactly you know
00:42:38.800
i can't fuck with that at all i am curious too like a lot of those guys that you grew up with
00:42:42.980
did you maintain any relationships once you're once you change your life did you go back like did you
00:42:49.440
talk to any of those people like like how did that phase out i tried to help all of them
00:42:56.420
in 2012 approximately a drug called fentanyl showed up in america prior to that we had a
00:43:03.800
heroin heroin crisis an oxycontin crisis crisis and overdose death started to skyrocket in our
00:43:11.760
country which now and for quite a long time it's the leading cause of accidental death in adult
00:43:16.340
americans you're more likely to die of an opioid overdose as an american than you are in a car accident
00:43:21.220
and it killed every single one of them dude i have this vision i have this vision right of like
00:43:26.920
16 year old eric at my dad's house i got the basement with the bulkhead open i got the big
00:43:33.740
speakers with the wires running out to the speakers i got a hundred people in my fucking backyard the kegs
00:43:38.940
go in fucking great time we're passing the blunts we're drinking the booze and i i remember this and we
00:43:46.060
used to do it all the time and i remember like i walked through and in every face i can fucking remember
00:43:50.340
at that party is dead all of them yeah it was crazy and so it was honestly probably like one of the
00:43:57.940
most painful things i've ever been through was from like 2012 to i don't know the the bulk of it was
00:44:05.000
like 2012 to 2017 and then there's still still happening today but all of my people died in that
00:44:12.100
time this the the epic the drug epidemic the addiction epidemic in america happens right under the
00:44:19.600
noses of everybody you go out in the world and if you don't know what you're looking for the signs
00:44:23.840
and symptoms of addiction which is then you just won't see it but if you do you move through the
00:44:30.340
day like you're like holy i see so many addicted people all day long dude and they're driving nice
00:44:35.820
cars pumping the gas sitting at the restaurant i see them eating with their kids and their wife and
00:44:39.920
i'm like that wife has no idea that he's got a dope habit yeah i could see it a mile away because i
00:44:44.340
know what i'm looking at you know what i mean and but most people fucking don't most people
00:44:48.200
their bosses their families yeah and here's the crazy thing is the family aspect of it
00:44:52.800
how many times i've consoled parents wives husbands kids that like they had no idea until the person
00:44:59.400
died yeah and i'm like you know it's not your fault no it's fucking it's fucking bullshit bro
00:45:06.240
it is that shit fucking sent over here by china fucking run across the border intentionally and
00:45:10.780
fucking ruin our whole fucking culture and country it's intentional yeah no 100 it's a
00:45:16.520
fucking crime syndicate where all these motherfuckers are criminals i mean you guys listen to the show
00:45:20.880
yeah i mean dude andy the most shows i probably wouldn't even bring this up but here i feel safe
00:45:27.520
yeah yeah you know when you think about when you think about the origins of this country in my native
00:45:33.020
area with the boston tea party yeah england said hey we want a little bit of money on the tea and we
00:45:37.440
said fuck you suck our dick fucking with throwing this tea off bro like like it was less than that
00:45:42.720
but here we are but 240 fucking years later but think i set him off yeah here we go paying these
00:45:52.100
motherfuckers i know most of our money but listen listen we told them to fuck off go and get your
00:45:57.560
guns and fucking come and get it yeah who fought that war young men fucking 20 year old kids look at
00:46:05.600
20 year old kids today you know fentanyl's killing 20 year old kids yeah and if they ain't fucking dead
00:46:12.620
they're fucking useless yeah they're so high they don't give a single fuck about they're either hooked
00:46:18.320
on drugs or on psychiatric medication or i mean there's just so many blockers what's that puberty
00:46:24.820
blocker dude no there's a yeah no shit there's a whole fucking bro listen it's a perspective shit yeah
00:46:30.740
dude people don't even consider themselves grown adults until they're 30 years old now
00:46:35.280
if you're powerful i know but yet fucking 18 to 24 year old young men fucking fight wars
00:46:41.300
i i know this but like i know i do think about this i know look at all these 20 year old people but if
00:46:46.460
you are the powerful fucking people and the corrupt fucking bullshit that happens who are you fucking
00:46:51.920
scared of and who are you gonna target and who are you gonna handicap that's exactly it i get it dude
00:46:57.320
and so when i look around at what happened to me dude i'm fucking 1999 i'm 14 fucking years old
00:47:03.740
and fucking my buddy who was a good fucking kid yeah from a good fucking hard-working family in new
00:47:09.320
hampshire walks into my house with a 40 milligram fucking pill that's synthetic fucking heroin
00:47:14.800
and it happened to me and every one of those kids that died that's how we started yeah
00:47:18.840
yeah it's fucking crazy and do you know like me and my friend allows the prop it allows them to
00:47:25.620
maintain their position of power and wealth yes because these young men there's no threat
00:47:31.880
there's no fucking threat they're gonna be scared what are you gonna do bro listen like reality
00:47:36.740
they're either you're 38 i'm 43 we're in fucking great shape i there listen dude there's what
00:47:43.520
less than fucking one-tenth of one percent of 43 year old men that fucking are in the shape i'm in
00:47:49.780
okay i'm 260 fucking pounds i have fucking abs or less than that okay i'm just saying
00:47:55.040
i'm capable but most of the fucking 40 year old men are not capable they're not capable and so we
00:48:02.320
have to like really take a look part of it now there is there is a handful of very capable 40 year old
00:48:09.700
men you know the mike lovers of the world his whole network all those guys but the reality eric you
00:48:16.040
you're fucking telling the real shit this shit was to put into what year was that 1999 okay for the
00:48:23.520
last 20 fucking years plus they have inserted this drug over and over and over and over again and while
00:48:29.940
they're inserting this drug oh yeah by the way we're going to insert this ideology of no competitive
00:48:35.100
nature of the opposite of natural order where you are not judged look at the growth of fucking
00:48:40.560
psychiatric medication on young people in this country bro it's insane it's they're either on
00:48:45.800
fucking narcotics and fucking drugs addiction or we're fucking prescribing them ssris and mood
00:48:51.800
stabilizers i was on the shit for 11 fucking years bro it's fucking insane yeah and i i dropped it last
00:48:57.360
august uh august 1st july 31st last 22 i stopped taking lexapro you know what bro i'm still fucking
00:49:05.820
having withdrawals like still i know still like i still go through these phases where like for like
00:49:11.500
three or four or five days at a time i can't cannot fucking function brain fog brain bro i have physical
00:49:16.480
shakes i know dude i've seen it yeah a thousand times yeah this is my world bro it's fucking insane
00:49:21.600
and like dude the suicidal fucking shit the thing that's missing in fucking young people is fucking
00:49:27.300
outrage yeah nobody's fucking outraged i remember i remember in america you remember in america that i
00:49:34.680
fucking love yeah these kids don't give a fuck they never but they don't give a fuck by design
00:49:39.640
they never saw it because they've been attacked yeah it's on i mean it's social media it's fucking
00:49:44.640
digital addiction it's fucking drugs it's psychiatric medication it's fucking ideology it's the broken
00:49:50.700
belief systems they've been fed and raised on destruction of the family it's the destruction of
00:49:54.420
the family it's the distraction it's fucking all of that yeah feminism that's a whole thing yeah
00:49:59.620
like fuck you know like bro we're we're all this shit and at one hour and 57 minutes the show went
00:50:06.740
totally to shit no no he's good it's but this is this is a real shit though you know dude like we
00:50:13.740
yeah we got big problems here man yeah this is why i try to fucking this is why i try to fucking get
00:50:19.680
you guys listening to engage in what's going on you know like a lot of people think that someone
00:50:25.620
else is coming motherfucker nobody's coming nobody's coming to fix your it bitch yeah that's
00:50:30.960
it's you it is you it's every single person listening to the show and it's you to the fucking
00:50:36.160
to the to the micro context of how you live your life in a fucking day-to-day and what you fucking do
00:50:43.080
and your habits and rituals and fucking routines and your goals and your vision and your objectives
00:50:48.800
like people don't take it from the macro context of how fucked up this is to what you fucking did
00:50:55.880
today and the impact that you fucking made today yeah actually matters yeah because every it's the
00:51:02.060
it's the accumulation of all the fucking people right like we our mission statement at my new
00:51:07.360
treatment business which is called treatment x is to be the ripple effect of change and what that
00:51:12.520
came from was this analogy of that we throw a stone in the pond and most of us all we see is the
00:51:17.940
the ripple effect touches every edge of the shore every edge of the fucking every time every time
00:51:24.320
every single day is your opportunity to throw a stone you don't know the effects and if everybody
00:51:30.800
fucking did it i know i'm preaching to the choir now bro they need to hear from someone besides me
00:51:36.020
yeah people haven't responded it's like dude i saw this study come out over the weekend that showed
00:51:42.080
that the people who value patriotism is down patriotism is down from 68 percent in 2019 to
00:51:47.940
like 39 percent in 2023 that's the opposite of what the fuck we need i know that's the opposite of what
00:51:55.280
we need and that's evidence of the cultural demoralization of our society by these people
00:52:00.880
who are doing it to handicap you take from you steal from you use you as cattle that provides them with
00:52:09.460
their wealth their control their fucking power and we're we're sitting here taking it and you guys
00:52:17.380
are getting less pissed not more pissed what's that tell you it's the system is fucking bro bro our
00:52:25.980
people are broke yeah our people are broke and i don't mean financially i mean culturally and fucking
00:52:31.320
spiritually and fucking personal pride like how the fuck can you like and i'm how the fuck can you be
00:52:39.580
okay like bro how can any of us be okay we're paying more of our money to the government than we get to
00:52:46.600
keep ourselves because that's what we do people think oh my income tax it's 30 you know i get to keep
00:52:53.400
70 the fuck you do you fucking pay that shit how what do you what do you over and over and what do
00:52:59.040
you pay to own your home what do you pay to spend money what do you pay to own a car yeah what happens
00:53:04.120
if you don't pay the tax to register your car what happened oh oh what happens if you don't pay your
00:53:09.420
taxes people say oh taxation is theft taxation is not theft taxation is fucking extortion because there
00:53:15.680
is consequences to what happens after that you don't just lose the money it puts you in jail and i agree
00:53:21.600
with you the people are broken the system is broken and that's the thing that's indoctrining them into
00:53:27.000
yeah but dude i don't think we're i think i'm really starting to believe we might be past the point of
00:53:31.560
return i don't i don't disagree who the fuck is going to come fucking lead these motherfuckers
00:53:36.500
like who who is like dude here's what we really need this is real talk we need a fucking real revolution
00:53:42.920
and that's real shit and you got motherfuckers talking about you know like and dude by the way when i say
00:53:49.200
revolution i mean fucking cultural revolution i mean raising a fucking standards i mean living a
00:53:55.220
higher life i mean taking interest in the people who are actually oppressing you at all levels and
00:54:00.740
fucking eliminating those people from existence in the in the terms of their ability to do so
00:54:06.280
whatever the fuck that means that means a vote i don't personally have too much fucking belief in
00:54:11.960
our voting system right now but if y'all think it's a vote it's a vote but what if it ain't a vote then
00:54:17.080
what's the action i think we all fucking know right like dude where are those people where are
00:54:24.100
these people where are all of you pro 2a fucking patriot motherfuckers up until 2020 you were the
00:54:32.260
most vocal fucking badass fuck around find out now y'all are fucking crickets you ain't saying shit
00:54:38.760
yep say that fuck that's true yeah goddamn that's true it's a fucking truth yep if we don't stop this
00:54:45.660
shit you have zero fucking chance and like dude why why do we not have culture rallying around
00:54:51.340
the people who are trying to leave these messages oh you like my fucking shit you like the bro all
00:54:57.600
the solution is simple go out and remove yourself from the system by becoming fit they want you fat
00:55:05.860
become fit they want you broke become rich they want you stupid take advantage of the free
00:55:11.840
information that's all surrounded about you and educate yourself it's very easy for us to fuck them
00:55:17.220
without firing a single fucking bullet at them yeah very easy well notice everything that you just
00:55:22.360
mentioned i'm sure we can come up with more when we are what they want us to be you know what we are
00:55:27.420
of them is fucking profitable that dude that's it we're fucking making you like cows exactly bro we
00:55:34.500
are fucking livestock there's elite these elite quote-unquote elites they're i know they're not elites to me
00:55:40.440
they're pieces of shit to me you eat their food and it fucking they make money off the food complex it
00:55:45.580
gets you sick you end up in the health care system like it's dude it's all directions in my
00:55:51.920
dude you eat the food okay we make money on the food the food makes you sick i make money on the
00:55:57.140
medication the food makes you fat now i make money fucking uh by you consuming my streaming services and
00:56:03.560
my porn and my shit on the internet uh now now um you have no ambition so you're not going to get
00:56:10.220
wealthy so that you can get out of that fucking you can work it's consumerism and profitability and
00:56:15.080
fucking control yeah and dude people fucking like i have bro eric you know dude i have been on
00:56:21.760
this as hard as anybody could be on it as hard as anybody could be on it it's hard like i called
00:56:28.260
it out play by play by fucking play for the last three years and you know what i get i get people
00:56:33.960
telling me in my dms well i can't share your show man because like you know my my fucking sister-in-law
00:56:39.840
gets offended and she gets on my case fuck your sister-in-law bro she's the fucking problem she's the
00:56:45.860
reason that when you listen to the show you're shaking your head yeah like where are we going to get
00:56:51.020
our fucking courage bro we're like i feel like i was born in the wrong fucking era like i was born
00:56:56.640
in the like like i should have been born like it's 1776 it's gotta come to a fucking boiling point or
00:57:03.480
maybe fuck i was born in the right era i was just gonna say that that's where i was gonna say maybe
00:57:07.420
you were born in the right era and and it's gotta come to die for this shit i will fucking die for
00:57:12.260
this shit this is no bullshit like bro if we don't save our fucking country from these fucking tyrants
00:57:16.840
long term i'm not talking about rushing the white house i'm not talking about any of this crazy shit
00:57:21.540
i'm saying if we don't get organized we don't create a fucking actual movement we don't we don't
00:57:26.280
remove ourselves from their fucking corrupt system that fucks us all we are fucked as humans and your
00:57:32.080
kids they will die they will be sent to fight a war that means nothing other than profit and dude
00:57:37.840
that's where we're at and like dude nobody cares nobody fucking cares nobody fucking cares and that you
00:57:43.160
know that's what i said earlier was there's just a lack of outrage not for me not from you not for me
00:57:49.520
yeah but just generally in society there's just a lack of outrage of the shit that they fucking get
00:57:55.800
away with and you know from my perspective everything we're talking about is very true
00:58:00.480
my little keyhole on the world in in the addiction stuff and the mental health and and just seeing all
00:58:07.200
of that the fucking game is so broken i mean you get these kids that are hooked on drugs not broken
00:58:12.780
then they it's not broken eric it works exactly as they want it to yes it's broken for us yeah it's
00:58:18.220
fucking no no no it is not broken it's by design that's right we it is fucking 100 by design but
00:58:26.220
they become lifelong dude you can look up a fucking clip of me at the united states senate in 2015
00:58:32.580
sitting on a panel of three people one was fucking dr wu who was a chief medical officer for the city of
00:58:39.340
baltimore and then there was a pharmacist from colorado and me and and the the conversation was
00:58:45.740
the opioid epidemic in america it was still the health education labor and pension committee the
00:58:50.260
united states senate the drug suboxone you know what that is suboxone is a maintenance medication
00:58:57.280
for opiates if we took a suboxone right now we'd all be high as fuck they have a street value they're
00:59:02.760
traded and sold like drugs it's like methadone almost it's a similar fucking drug it's it was originally
00:59:08.900
designed to be a short-term taper like a week to get people off of heroin or other opiate class drugs
00:59:15.160
they have made that into a lifelong maintenance fucking program dude i went head to head with this
00:59:23.280
woman fucking on the united states senate floor as a 15 year old fucking high school like if you don't
00:59:29.260
think you can make a difference here i am as a 15 year old high school fucking dropout arguing with a
00:59:34.180
doctor in front of the united states senate who's telling the united states senate that that opioid
00:59:40.100
addicts have to be prescribed this fucking very heavy opiate class narcotic medication for the rest
00:59:45.720
of their fucking lives they will be a slave to it if they don't take it they will go into withdrawal
00:59:50.660
they'll get sick and this woman's telling fucking the senate and then the senate you know what's
00:59:55.920
happened since then is they've passed a bunch of laws around accessibility fucking distribute distribution
01:00:01.220
around this fucking drug and they just blanket cover everyone with it even like just this one
01:00:06.260
little microcosm of of this by design broken system is we used to as a standard for opiate addicts so
01:00:15.920
heroin addicts oxycontin whatever like get them sober and off all drugs now by forced regulation from the
01:00:23.800
government we must offer them and put them on maintenance medications and offer it to them for life
01:00:30.340
pharma government do you know how fucking hard that was the commissioner of the department of
01:00:37.660
health and human services in the state of new hampshire called me into his office they changed the
01:00:41.600
regulation in 2018 i fucking refused in 2019 they said fucking come in here for a meeting
01:00:49.620
they used they put a video that i put on facebook fucking i hate this shit bro you i'm a heroin addict
01:00:57.720
i haven't used a mind-altering substance in more than 16 fucking years and my life is unbelievable
01:01:02.760
as a result of it i believe in people getting clean and sober off of fucking drugs they put a video of
01:01:08.780
me in the conference room fucking saying a similar type thing and then sat and told me eric if you don't
01:01:13.960
start putting people on fucking this medication and offering medication assisted treatment and recovery
01:01:19.200
for your patients we're going to take your treatment license gun to the fucking head you want a
01:01:24.700
business or don't want a business that's that's fucking dude dude real and so then i watch my
01:01:31.040
fucking money and then about keeping so then i watch my friends it's so fucking broken they fucking
01:01:36.900
come in and they want to be badasses and that's like growing up we wanted to be gangsters not drug
01:01:42.360
addicts yeah we were listening to fucking pock and biggie and fucking you know heavily influenced by
01:01:48.140
gangster rap and smoking blots doing all this shit and i watch all these people fucking get prescribed
01:01:53.000
psychiatric medication go to minimum mandatory do you know how many friends the ones that are still alive
01:01:58.440
fucking are either have completed or are still in double digit federal prison sentences
01:02:05.560
and do you know that those people that i love my friends that i grew up with were incarcerated in
01:02:10.920
federal prisons that were privately owned by companies that were traded on the new york stock exchange
01:02:16.020
and do you know while they were fucking incarcerated for fucking 10 20 30 fucking years i got guys doing
01:02:21.480
50 50 fucking years on fucking conspiracy charges that fucking they are forced in a doctrine into
01:02:27.960
slave labor and these private prisons are fucking are contracted with fucking companies like victoria
01:02:35.320
secret fucking american airlines fucking all if you call american airlines right now and talk to their
01:02:41.760
call center there's a probability that's very high you're talking to a federal inmate that's being paid
01:02:47.560
that's being paid 14 cents a fucking hour i didn't know that they spend on canteen just to survive within
01:02:53.720
the fucking prison 85 percent of that prison population are non-violent drug-related offenders
01:02:58.840
joe biden fucking pull up the 1994 fucking crime bill and that fucking assholes on the senate floor
01:03:04.760
fucking implementing minimum mandatory sentencing for fucking drug-related fucking crimes yeah and so like
01:03:12.440
you know you go and get fucking sentenced in a federal prison those fucking prison systems that
01:03:16.840
are privately owned fucking employ some of the most powerful fucking lobbyists in fucking dc and make
01:03:22.520
campaign donations just like fucking big pharma does when i left the when i left the senate building
01:03:28.920
and i walked back i forget where i was staying like the ritz or the w or something and it was walking
01:03:33.080
distance in dc in that political district i fucking swear to god i thought i was getting fucking like i'm
01:03:39.480
like i'm gonna get whacked like a van's gonna fucking scoop me or i'm gonna get my head blown
01:03:43.800
off right now i know the feeling yeah yeah like fucking crazy shit but bro i'm just you know we gotta
01:03:50.520
wake the fuck up dude and like no dude you guys out there like there's the problem is it's the bystander
01:03:56.040
effect everybody hears me say what i just said and they're like well you know not he's not talking to
01:04:02.120
me no no motherfucker they're glad you said it fucking you i'm talking to you you come here and consume my
01:04:08.360
shit for free i've helped all you motherfuckers make a whole bunch of fucking money or improve
01:04:12.280
your lives in all these ways you send me all this shit these nice cards and all this shit all i'm
01:04:16.680
asking you to do is stand the fuck up for what's right that's all i'm asking and we don't even have
01:04:21.320
that in this country anymore like it's a fucking shame i mean i do think the tide is changing and
01:04:26.440
more and more people but dude the problem is is that we're running out of fucking time yeah we're
01:04:31.080
running out of time we're we're on the verge of probably the biggest financial crisis that's
01:04:38.360
ever existed like we're not talking about great depression we're talking about the
01:04:43.640
great great great depression we're talking about your cash money being worth nothing
01:04:48.680
we're talking about hyperinflation like they had in 1930s weimar republic in germany we're talking about
01:04:54.840
literal total degradation of of society as a whole and like we're on the cusp and like you know
01:05:04.040
i don't know i feel like i'm wasting my breath at this point i feel like i need to dedicate my time
01:05:10.120
to people who are committed to winning who are committed to fucking working themselves out of the
01:05:16.200
system to become independently uh independent you know uh financially way to escape yeah i i it is
01:05:23.320
it's the only way until we fucking get these people gone until we get some real fucking leadership
01:05:28.600
and you guys still believe the media you fucking watch the media you watch these motherfuckers
01:05:36.200
villainize these these people these regular americans that go to congress and sacrifice their time and then
01:05:41.800
you jump on the bandwagon making fun of them because they seem like simpletons to you or they say some
01:05:47.000
dumb shit hey these are just regular people like you going to serve that's where our government's supposed
01:05:52.040
to be and the media makes all these people look like fucking idiots you know like look what they do to
01:05:56.920
fucking uh marjorie taylor green like that's just this is just a woman from fucking georgia and i'm not
01:06:02.840
like super fan of this i don't like i'm just pointing something out that i observe you know
01:06:08.760
this woman who is just a regular woman who went and served a fucking congress and these guys these
01:06:13.800
people the media fucking destroys her it's like dude they destroy anybody who's a normal class peasant
01:06:20.440
citizen that goes to serve why do you guys think that is our entire government was set up for for
01:06:26.280
fucking we the people to actually run the government and the people who have been running the government
01:06:31.640
for the last fucking hundred years have decided that they are in a club that we are not a part of
01:06:37.320
and that's not the purpose of our government it never has been it never was from the beginning
01:06:41.480
and it sure as fuck ain't that now and these motherfuckers are taking all our money they're
01:06:45.560
taking all our freedom they're trying to uh pass the uh i forgot what the axe called now to to
01:06:51.160
ban tick tock or whatever the fuck it is which has all this hyper fucking vigilant power for them
01:06:57.560
to censor social media at whatever cost uh it's called the restriction act or something restrict
01:07:03.320
act and like you motherfuckers are are like yelling about trump getting arrested and shit like you're
01:07:09.960
like dude these people are moving to straight authoritarianism totalitarianism which will lead
01:07:15.720
to real communism and you will fucking starve and you will fucking die and so will your kids and
01:07:21.160
dude if we don't fucking understand that and then you're and i'm not talking 20 years from now i'm
01:07:26.040
talking five years from now yeah guys like fucking it's 2023 think about how much different the world
01:07:33.000
was four years ago in 2019 like it's only been four years since 2019 it's not like that dude here's the
01:07:41.880
thing though the world wasn't that different it's just that we weren't aware of it yeah these people
01:07:47.640
have been running this play like dude people are like oh well back in my day and i'm guilty of saying
01:07:52.760
this too back in my day uh you know the news was the news and they told us the real shit no they didn't
01:07:59.000
they haven't been doing that for a hundred fucking years bro the minute they knew that they
01:08:02.280
could fucking tell you lies and you would believe them they've been doing that and they've been
01:08:05.480
doing that for their own profit like dude we don't even know our we don't even know our own
01:08:09.720
history as human beings we're our history as americans and human beings is kept from us
01:08:15.320
intentionally our own human capabilities are kept from us intentionally because we are
01:08:20.760
fucking way more powerful than they fucking want us to believe that we are and and they want us dude
01:08:25.320
it's just like that movie ants or bugs life whatever bugs life we're the fucking the ants got to fight
01:08:30.600
the fucking grasshoppers and they can't realize like the ants have been fucking beat and beat and
01:08:35.480
believe that they're just supposed to work and produce for the grasshoppers and then the
01:08:39.320
fucking ants comes up and it starts standing up to them and all of a sudden they realize holy
01:08:43.400
shit we're the ones with the power and we have the power right now we american people have the
01:08:48.520
motherfucking power right now and everybody's like like uh somebody posted a clip from my last show
01:08:54.440
with mike yoder where i was talking about this and i saw the comments and they're like people get it
01:08:59.640
they get it but they don't know what to do well motherfucker i've been telling you what to do for
01:09:03.320
three fucking years i've gone over it a thousand fucking times and three years ago had you listen
01:09:08.280
about pulling yourself off the fucking system you would have been off the system by now yeah you
01:09:12.600
know what i'm saying like dude it's just dude people are they're so neutered that like they
01:09:18.600
have no fucking piss and vinegar in them anymore at all they don't have any fight in them at all and
01:09:23.160
it's just bro it's honestly like it's disappointing like it's disappointing because like my whole
01:09:28.680
identity of what like i thought america was and who the people are is being destroyed and diluted in
01:09:34.520
my own mind because i look around i'm like motherfucker we're supposed to be bad fucking
01:09:38.840
motherfuckers you guys are fucking just like oh okay a bunch of pussies yeah like bro that's where
01:09:44.600
we're at it's disappointing like it's like and if you're around here's a crazy thing if you're a bad
01:09:50.040
motherfucker you get villainized put a fucking target on your back well no shit from the media
01:09:54.920
from other people from fucking you know bro listen my shit is so fucking my shit they won't even give me
01:10:01.400
the fucking spotlight they won't even shine that motherfucker over here because they know what the
01:10:05.080
fuck will happen yeah millions and millions and millions of motherfuckers will hear it and they'll
01:10:09.320
fucking be like fuck he's right you know that's why i ask you guys share the show i can't share it
01:10:16.120
because my cousin gets upset with me well fuck your cousin bro you want your kids to fucking die and
01:10:20.600
starve or do you want us to be fucking free like dude think how much wealth could be created in this
01:10:25.000
country and and in a fucking immediate point of time if our tax went from fucking where it is now
01:10:32.760
to 10 consumption or 10 flat tax we could do either one they're mismanaging and stealing the money like
01:10:39.800
you guys oh well they couldn't do that for just 10 i don't know have you ever operated a fucking
01:10:43.560
business probably not and if you have it's not a big business i have i've operated big businesses
01:10:48.360
i'm telling you you could fucking do it you could these people are all on the fucking take they give a
01:10:54.060
little bit here a little bit here a little bit here a little bit here that's how the shit gets
01:10:57.520
passed they print the money they take it home they give you nothing that's what the fuck has been
01:11:01.680
going on for decades and like dude we're we're fucking just over here like leave me alone well
01:11:08.580
eventually dude leave you alone get you killed yeah so dude trust me like it's fucking frustrating
01:11:15.320
for me but dude personal excellence is the answer personal excellence is the ultimate rebellion that
01:11:20.920
keeps these people from fucking fully gaining everything and so you guys who are fucking fat
01:11:26.320
and you're broke and you're fucking consuming ig all day and you're fucking binge watching every
01:11:32.340
motherfucking show bro you're the fucking problem you're the reason they're able to do all this shit
01:11:36.740
and if we all corrected our behavior and by the way i'm not judging and neither is eric because
01:11:42.140
guess what we've both been pieces of shit too real talk real talk okay i've been there i've been
01:11:49.160
350 pounds bro i've been fucking i've been broke i've been fucking consumed with the wrong shit
01:11:55.100
i understand that and because i understand that i understand how you can pull yourself out of that
01:12:01.000
yeah just like there's no just like you've i've been i've been lower down in life than most people
01:12:06.040
ever will fucking go and i say it all the time and i don't know that when i say it it gets
01:12:11.300
the amount of respect or or people understand the power behind it as long as you're breathing this
01:12:18.020
still hope yeah as long as bro i flew here on my own fucking plane i've also fucking stood in a
01:12:23.760
fucking gas station parking lot fucking ask people for dollars because i'm hungry that's the beauty
01:12:28.360
of fucking america that's america that's my fucking point that but dude that window to do that is now
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closing yeah okay and let me explain it to you in your in your fucking internet terms so you understand
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it uh in 2012 13 14 there was open algorithm on the internet on social media meaning i went from
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fucking zero to a hundred thousand instagram followers in like fucking four months you can't
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do that now no you can't do it okay so so all of you guys out there who have instagram accounts and
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you're all like fuck i can't grow my fucking instagram account do you know why because your freedom in
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that environment has been fucking taken from you and now you can't grow now apply that to your
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fucking business in real life now apply that to your life in real life your career you can't fucking
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grow the way they're running it okay and that's i'm i've already i've been through the shit i was
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fortunate enough to harvest during fucking fertile soil we don't have fertile soil right now fuck that's
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a good point and bro i get all these motherfuckers that come to me and they're like andy
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why don't you stick to business you're one of the best business podcasts ever existed no shit
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that's why i don't fucking do it anymore because it's easy for me to do you know what's hard for
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me to do is to get you fucking motherfuckers to understand that we are in danger and you are in
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danger of losing your entire opportunity to fucking grow that dude and that's real shit like
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you got like i tell this story eric tells this story you can't go right now the way things are in
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america it's 10 000 harder to go from begging for a dollar to owning your own plane than it was
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fucking 15 years ago because of the shit that they have imposed upon us and people can't connect it
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yet they're like dude it should terrify you and you know who it shouldn't terrify me because i'm already
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here okay and you should be way more outraged than i am right now i'm outraged for you and that's what
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people can't get it's like if we were what do you do dj why don't you guys just do q and a s
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fucking not do the ctrs you know i love your business shit but i don't love your political
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shit well you better learn to love it because you ain't gonna have business shit without it
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that's the thing if those restrictions get removed how quick and easy it would be that's what i'm saying
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if we weren't paying fucking 50 60 70 all in and if you're listen if you're paying 30 income tax
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you're actually paying probably like 60 all in when it comes when it comes all shakes nickel and
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dimes yeah if you were only paying 10 and you didn't have to pay tax when you bought detergent
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and fucking chicken breasts and fucking cheerios and the shit that you buy and you didn't have to
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pay tax to own your car and you don't have to pay tax to fucking sell your shit how much more
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fucking money would you have get it this is instant relief we're talking about you know old stimulus
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plan the ultimate stimulus plan is for them to quit stealing our fucking money just stop taking
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it from dude that's it we don't want anything just stop fucking taking it that's it and like bro these
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people real talk their heads belong on fucking sticks in the front of the fucking white house
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real talk this is just like it's gone through history over and over and over and over and over
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again they're tyrants they they're fucking drunk on their power they are abusing us and we're taking
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it like a bunch of fucking pussies fucking post that shit you know i'm like dude it's the truth
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fuck man dude it's been a great conversation yeah brother i appreciate you taking the time uh
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coming up here i appreciate uh your story dude i think it's needed and like dude i want to be clear
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yeah you still have the opportunity right now but that opportunity is closing so fucking fast
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you guys can't see it closing i only reason i can see it closing is because i've already been doing
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yeah it's just i don't want to like doom and gloom people but there's a reality that we have to
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address dude and like these people are taking our look at what they're doing like real talk look at
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what they're doing they're making us fight each other all day long constant chaos constant chaos
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they're taking our money all day long okay they're they're causing us they're making us work for them
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those motherfuckers in washington dc do not fucking work that is not work they are not creating or
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building or doing anything they are taking a fee from our percentage of our pay to sort of buy
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all of their paychecks all of their payroll all of that wealth that 300 million dollars that nancy
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pelosi had that came from your fucking pocket bro while you're working your fucking job and and that's
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what's so funny about the fucking socialist marxist movement they're they're you guys are arguing for
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shit and you're fucking arguing for more of it like bigger government take our money equally
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they're going to equally distribute it amongst themselves you ain't getting shit and like dude we
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i don't know like i just feel like i'm i'm at my wits end dude like where i'm just like
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these people are not going to get it and by the time they get it there ain't going to be nobody left
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to lead because everybody was fucking screaming about it like me that has other options is going
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to go do those other options so i don't know can't fix the world one fucking day i'm with you yeah
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it's frustrating fuck dude i mean who the fuck's going to lead us through this
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who like who okay trump after trump who look what they keep doing to them
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it's dude we need people who have done real shit we need real americans serving the fucking
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government just like real americans serve in the military yeah it should be required it should be if
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you're if you like dude if i was called on to go do a job like that i'd go fucking do it and i would
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do it fucking well but i can tell you what i'm not going to do what i'm not going to do is uh give
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up my entire fucking life that's amazing and go beg motherfuckers for money and you know try to get
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you guys to elect me into a position of power that's not what the fuck i'm going to do you should
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recognize who the fucking leaders are and you should get behind them and support them and if that doesn't
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happen in america bro we ain't gonna have nobody to leave yep so interesting times yeah it's super
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interesting super interesting anyway um again dude thanks for coming in thanks for sharing your story
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uh i appreciate everything that you're doing where could people find you at where are you at most on
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the internet instagram at yeah at eric spofford yeah easy so uh guys give eric a follow he's putting
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out some very high level good good business advice that is real shit for those of you like a lot of
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you guys listening uh you're real operators you're running real business he's giving real tactical
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advice which i appreciate bro and uh yeah support this man because he's doing good shit so yeah brother
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likewise all right guys well that's the show uh
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sleeping on the floor now my jewelry box froze fuck a pole fuck a stove counted millions in the code
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bad bitch booted swole got her on bankroll can't fold doesn't know headshot case closed