665. #75HARD vs Carly Thackrey & Chris Hibbs
Episode Stats
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1 hour and 23 minutes
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203.72746
Summary
75 Hard vs. 100 Hard is a battle of 75 Hard vs 100 Hard. In this episode, we fly out two winners of the 75 Hard contest from last summer to be on the show and spend a day and work out and go to dinner with us.
Transcript
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what is up guys it's andy for selling this is the show for the realists say goodbye to the lies
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the thickness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality guys today we
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have 75 hard versus uh as you guys know these are occasional episodes they're not regular episodes
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but we have a very special one today uh because last summer when you guys uh if you remember we
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had a 75 hard contest and we had a deal where we were going to fly out two winners um to be on the
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show and spend a day and work out and go to dinner and they are here today so i wanted to say welcome
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to chris hibbs and carly thackeray what's up guys thank you hi yeah it's great to have you guys
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here yeah it's so great to be here so where are we from i'm from north texas north texas south falls
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to be exact okay and i'm from ventura california all right yes cool quite different places yeah
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mine's more similar to here yeah i would say yeah i think texas is real close to missouri man
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every time i go to texas i feel like it's home right she's a little hotter farm yeah farm land
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everywhere good barbecue yeah it's a good spot good people i don't go to california i know
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i know i told dj i'm like i'm from your favorite your favorite place man so i'm not allowed in
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california anymore i know yeah so well it's great to have you guys here so we're just going to get
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right into it guys um these episodes are basically you know like we say in the intro every show
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they're basically just you know people who have discovered 75 hard who have completed it who have
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changed their life with the program um we let them tell their story so how'd you guys hear about
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this how'd you come to cross 75 hard i was on a walk in 2019 and it was the first episode you
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announced it i believe and the second i heard it i was like i have to do that and i never got
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the message crossed where it was a fitness immediately i was like no this is gonna solve
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my deepest darkest demons the shit that always holds me back the the stuff that i never quite
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fix never quite you know get rid of in my life where it's always this yo-yo or i'm in this hamster
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wheel of a cycle right where i'm doing good then i'm not so um i failed it at least a dozen times
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before my back was up against the wall last august and i just said this has to be done so
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what were you like before that what do you mean before 2019 yeah were you training were you do
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yeah so um my background is in martial arts okay i'm a black belt in taekwondo i fought for 10 years
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um when i retired i met my husband he's also a fighter as well uh 2009 we opened up our crossfit gym
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ran it so our training in taekwondo and fighting was really similar to crossfit so it was like a natural
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progression uh 2015 we sold everything it took everything online so i was in the fitness world
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right but i just struggled so much with staying consistent i struggled so much with um yeah being
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dialed in my nutrition and da da da da and it was honestly the lies that i told myself yeah like
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no i got this it's okay i can i've been good for 30 days and i can go have a glass of wine or i can go
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have a cheat meal and it always it always created that it's interesting it's interesting because
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people's uh criticism of 75 hard is what do you do after 75 days you keep going that's right and they
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don't understand they they think of it as a fitness challenge it is a mental program yes two completely
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different things and if you're having problems uh like carly's describing where you're up and down
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up and down i was very similar over my life i discovered um that i had no capacity to maintain
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i was hot and then i was cold i was hot then i was cold then i was hot then i was cold
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and it wasn't until i started seeing it as a mental
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a mental aspect to my game that was weak that it changed my perspective right 100 and so uh
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i think it's interesting because the people who don't really understand they haven't looked into
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the program maybe they just heard about it or they see it online they think it's a fitness challenge
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or a 75 day workout program or something they don't understand that this is actually the way
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that you do maintain yes because you're fixing what's going on upstairs that's causing the up and
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downs 100 so it's really cool to hear you say that especially coming from someone who's been in that
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game their whole lives yes right absolutely it literally my whole life yeah and i mean since i've
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been a little girl i mean i've struggled with weight and nutrition and being consistent i'm either on the
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boat or i'm off the boat right and so yeah it's um it was the subtraction of stuff that um really led
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me through the breakthrough yeah and 75 hard makes you subtract yeah that's awesome yeah thank you
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what about you brother well i originally started following you back in 2017 when you were doing the
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mscu project and i was back then i was basically the kind of person that needed to be hearing that kind
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of stuff but i didn't start implementing any of it till probably a year later where i it was 2018 and
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i kind of went through a breakup so i was forced to make a decision to change things and then 2019 i
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started working in the oil field which is what i do now doing contract well servicing and well testing
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and basically opening up new wells to production and uh just started basically doing the hard things
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and knowing that it's going to take time to build something up from that and then i started focusing
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more on becoming a better father to my daughter i have a 15 year old daughter right now
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and so at that time she was still 10 or so but just putting more time and effort into that and
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then so you had the what was it 2019 2020 when you 2019 yeah so you i remember actually 75 hard it was
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uh on march 5th is five years old okay so which that's pretty long time for a fucking fad huh guys
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yeah exactly yeah it keeps getting bigger too i don't think fads get bigger after five years i love
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when people say that yeah well uh so i remember you announcing it and everything yeah and i tried
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doing it probably about four times i failed it but i would always fail because i was drinking still
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and then i made a made a commitment to stop doing that the first time i completed 75 hard was the end
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of 2022 i did it and i just got done with it and i felt like accomplished and like i did a really good
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job i had a similar transformation but i felt like i could have did more yeah so i whenever that you
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announced the contest i had already been planning on doing the program again on september 1st which
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you announced the contest on august 27th i believe so it started on august 28th yeah so i went from
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about 235 to 205 or 207 around there but uh you got shredded bro thanks yeah well i was i was expecting
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to do a bodybuilding show but i had a job come up that i needed to be on and and then i just went on
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that instead it was more yeah it was it was more uh it was a smarter decision basically to go to go
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work instead of spend money on that bodybuilding show when you guys started with 75 hard what were
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you expecting of it what were you what were you expecting to get out of it versus you know what
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actually happened i always like to ask that yeah i i was expecting it to heal my my crippling
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so i i had a similar kind of journey on i was like okay august 28th i'm gonna start
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i saw emily was going to um do it i was like cool i'd love to follow her on it then i found heard your
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podcast of like hey make sure to tune in and when i heard your testimonial about your journey through it
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and what it did for you and especially with self-harm and suicidal thoughts and it was just like
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it pierced my soul and so i was like and i was battling with that so immensely and that's what i
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i knew like of course you want to look strong and lean and and good and stuff right but i knew that
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that would be the byproduct if i solved this shit right i had to go in and i had to slay my own
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fucking demons with this program and that was my focus and that was the only thing i focused on
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every single day i knew if i checked off every single thing every single day and gave it my all
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that this would finally be solved and it was like that like andy i couldn't it was like a whole year
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of like just absolute utter hell in my mind in my soul yeah and within three days i was like springing
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out of the bed i couldn't get out of bed before 7 a.m i was struggling to be a mom to feed my kids
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i was struggling with suicidal thoughts i mean it was just like the darkest year of my life and within
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three days i was springing out of bed at 4 30 in the morning by day five i remember my husband looking
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at me he goes you got your spark back didn't you and i go i sure did and i go in this program i'm doing
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it for the rest of my life like i'm in so what do you think it is about the the
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what do you think it is that makes makes you feel that way so fast um it was the removal of all the
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vices that i was using to numb out run away and escape and when you already are dealing i was already
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dealing with a certain level of depression and sadness and anxiety from some experience i had and
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then you put on alcohol and then you put on shit food and instead it just compounds it right crazy
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right and so and it's normal it's quote unquote normal it's what everybody does yeah yeah yeah no
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more uh-uh no way and so um so once i eliminated all that and then started stacking wins and being
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honestly doing something that so many people attempt and so few finish i was like
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fuck yeah i'm back like i am fucking back like it ignited that part of me that had been buried
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so long so fucking helped you find a purpose again a hundred percent a hundred percent and a pathway
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like i was so lost yeah you know what i mean and so now i know i just have to do this yeah if i do this
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then i'm the best fucking version of me yeah and you wake up every day knowing you did it like when
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you wake up shitty and you're in a bad mood and you're like fuck today's well i have 72 days in a
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row where i did everything i was supposed to do it's kind of hard to feel bad and how about when you
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hit the your head hits the pillow at night and you're exhausted from kicking ass yeah doing the
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shit that nobody fucking does yeah no matter what happens like i didn't you heard my story from
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yesterday yeah i still got my day done on 75 hard i did my 45 minute workout through customs and the
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baggage claiming yeah you know like you just you were so fucking empowered by this yeah like what's
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gonna stop me yeah you come out on the other nothing that's right so yeah that's cool so it's it's like
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the most powerful drug yeah right yeah i dude look i talk about this all the time you know there's
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three elements to being happy and people think being happy is being you know being a better mood
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you know do do what you like uh you know do something that makes you happy and they don't
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understand that they can manufacture their own happiness yes right there's three components to
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it one you got to be grateful for where you are you got to look around you got to say hey you know
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what shit's not exactly the way i want it but i'm pretty good this is all right it could be a lot
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worse all right there's a lot of people that have it a lot worse than me two you got to have a purpose
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every single day what's your purpose what are you getting up for what are you getting up to accomplish
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what are you getting up to to do human beings are driven by purpose and when we lack purpose we we seek
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purpose and even if it's not consciously it's unconsciously which creates anxiety and it creates
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uncertainty and it creates this feeling of something's just not right yeah and it's because
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we're not meant to sit around and you know scroll the internet that's not what we're meant to do
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we're meant to go do things and accomplish things and build things and create and contribute
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to things outside of ourselves and when we don't have that purpose we can't be happy
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and three we have to exercise discipline if we do not exercise discipline we are never going to feel
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confident in ourselves we are never going to feel powerful we are always going to feel powerless
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we're going to feel like we're floating through the wind and you know who knows what could happen
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five minutes from now and that's not an empowered way to live you know so if you're looking for being
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uh if you're looking to be happier and you think it's going to be you know sitting down by the brook
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as the stream crashes over the rocks reading your book yeah that might make you happy for a couple hours
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dude but if you lack these three things in your life on a consistent basis it's impossible to be happy
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and that's something that for the program that i have come to to to learn when i am find myself in
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a dark spot or a difficult spot which we all do there's no way to permanently get to a and i think
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that's another lie right another lie that we're told is we're going to find ourselves permanently
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in this content happy place that's not the way life works man life goes up life goes down things
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change the weather changes relationships change the way we see things change we go up we go down we go
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up we go down we go up we go down so it serves us to understand how to create these things when we
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want them when we're lacking them and every time i'm ever in a bad spot in my life if i look and i
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could like every single time i can look and usually for me it's gratitude because i'm pretty disciplined
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uh and i have purpose every day so usually for me gratitude is the thing that i lose focus on because
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i'm so focused on moving forward that i that i lose sight of where i'm at you know where i'm at now
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or this is the shit i used to dream of right so i have to remember that but i think for all of you
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guys listening you know if you find yourself in a place where you're not feeling right ask yourself
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what's your purpose are you grateful for where you are and what kind of discipline are you exercising
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i guarantee you dude you're going to have problems with one of those areas if you're not being happy
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right now so that's something that that i've took from the program what about you chris
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well the main thing i wanted to gain from it was confidence yeah believe it or not i've i've worked
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out for like 23 years now yeah i can tell bro you're jacked i've been in shape most of my life
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but i didn't have the confidence i would go around everywhere self-conscious still and maybe it's
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like the body dysmorphia thing or no i think everybody who's built i mean let's be real dude
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the reason we work out and get big muscles and shit is because we lack confidence we're a little
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insecure that's reality that's reality that's where achievement comes from that's where drive
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comes from that's where having shit to prove comes from insecurity is a natural human characteristic
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that we all have at certain times we just got to learn how to leverage it you know well that's not
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the reason why i started working out though yeah it didn't come from the being not self-confidence
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but uh originally it started because uh i wanted our dad to stop beating our ass yeah what it was
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yeah well that's a good reason too but i felt good doing this yeah i just kept doing it since then
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yeah but no the confidence was the main thing i wanted to gain from it and then doing getting
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that mental toughness that comes from doing the hard things consistently every day and having that
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purpose that you're talking about where you when you're on the program you have a plan to follow
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right so you go through the tasks daily but the main test is whenever you get off of it if you're
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going to pivot and change those critical tasks to fit your life and your goals that you are trying
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to achieve that's where people are are failing they think it's just going to be the 75 days or it's
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going to be the the phases but it's the taking the discipline that you gain during those the the phase or
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the 75 days and and changing it and putting it into working forward yeah for sure do and so since
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then i've just been able to i mean it's just it's a it's addictive trying to go through and pick
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every little hard thing that that you can throughout the day you're able to start being aware of each
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individual you know decision that you make is this going to make my life better or is this going to
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make my life worse if you can be able to adapt that that mentality you're going to be able to make a lot
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better choices and then get your get closer to your goals every day and just know that you know with
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your lessons you show the way of how it's going to take a long time whether it's going to you're not
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going to notice anything for a long time you just have to know that you have to keep putting in the
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work and now i don't have that issue with confidence yeah that's for sure good it worked
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huh good yeah that's good man well the one of the things that i did during the program for the contest
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was um first of all i told my daughter i was going to win the contest when you announced it
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and like i said i was going to do the content or i was going to start 75 hard that week anyways but
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you said to do the contest that day so i started it that day and uh i posted a youtube video every
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single day i'd started a youtube channel last summer with my daughter doing just cookie reviews
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we were i was ordering cookies off instagram which you guys hooked me up with a set in my locker so
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that was pretty cool because i hadn't had that con yet so we're going to do that but uh i couldn't
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do cookies on 75 hard kids love youtube bro right don't they yeah yeah they want to be youtubers now
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man well i wanted to do well i see these people making money off bro you just want listen let's not
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you just want to eat some cookies well both of them
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but yeah i see people making them yeah what i want to try something but i couldn't do cookies on
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on 75 hard so i just decided to post a video every day how i felt what i was doing that day it wasn't
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like some elaborate edited video or anything i was just sitting wherever i was because i was i was in a
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lot of places i travel for work and sometimes i'm two hours from home sometimes i'm six hours from home
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and i was still managing to you know make those long drives work 12 hours and do my workouts
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outside of being at work that was one of the things where i made it a point where i had time during my
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12-hour shift i could have threw my ruck on and started stepping yeah right well some people might
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not be able to do that and i was trying to show the way that if you have a construction job or you
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work outside or you're doing these things that it's still possible yeah that's one of the things
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people talk about they don't have time that how i have this going on or i have that going on it's
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either that or they can't quit drinking for the 75 days yeah well dude that's hard you know when
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you're normalized in the alcohol culture that's like dude i can remember when i got out of drinking
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dude like it's not sorry to cut you off but like the alcohol thing's important bro because i was in
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alcohol culture it sounds like you were too on my own yeah yeah with me by myself drinking well fuck
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dude for me it was like all my friends drank all the time that's what we did for fun we went to
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restaurants we went to brunch we drank same st louis is a drinking town that's what we do here
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we drink and watch the cardinals right sometimes fight that's what we do like um and getting out of
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that culture is super hard for people you know they can't imagine their life without it well they
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most of them do it every day yeah yeah that's what i'm saying it's just a terrible example to be
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setting and honestly it's like it's not necessary was that the hardest thing for you the drinking
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no i was i mean i was so tired of doing it yeah whenever i look back at it uh it had been like
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five or six years that i was doing it basically every day i would leave the gym at 10 a.m which
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is when the liquor stores open in texas and i would go buy a half pint southern comfort 100
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and that's not very much but i didn't buy the bigger bottles because i knew i would just drink those
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yeah and come back the next day and get yeah whatever size they had you know yeah i tried to limit
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myself like that but so you were you were like really drinking yeah yeah but still like functioning
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yeah yeah i wasn't out driving around doing you know i gave a bar doing yeah i had nothing going
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on at home you drink it all now no yeah it's been uh since october 2022 that's awesome i had quit
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when i finished the program the first time so i didn't even drink till yeah i mean still yeah this
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last time i did the program i didn't have that it wasn't an issue yeah so whenever i started it i was
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10 pounds lighter than the last time just because i didn't have that bloat from yeah drinking alcohol
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bro i don't miss that no that alcohol bloat or even that feeling of just waking up the next day
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just that dehydrated headache feeling yeah that's the worst and then just the example that's being
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said how old are you i'm 36 yeah well you're i feel like shit when i wake up anyway i don't need
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any more alcohol stuff bro i'm 44 bro i feel like i'm gonna fucking die that's one of the things
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that's good about being on the program and you're following a diet yeah it plays a big difference
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because since i've been off the program i'm sore again because of that yeah
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so when you when you think about like where you would have been or where you'd be without that
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you think you'd still be drinking if i would have had nothing to force me to no yeah i mean yes i would
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have still been drinking yeah yeah yeah dude me too man i i feel like with the alcohol thing it i never
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meant to like quit and i still haven't quit totally like there's two three times a year
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where i'll have some drinks but i don't ever think about it like even on the days i do drink
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like the times i have alcohol it's like on the moment decision where i'm like fuck it you know
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one day out you know it's probably three times a year and it's never like getting drunk it's like
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three or four or five beers tops yeah you know it's changed my relationship with alcohol completely
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same i don't miss it either yeah which i i which dude i could never get over like when uh when you
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were talking about you know basically going up and down and up and down and up and down i think a lot
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of the reason that i was going up and down my whole life with with my fitness especially was because i
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could never get rid of or shake the alcohol habit same yeah yeah because the alcohol for me always led
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to shit food choices yeah right and then it led to bad sleep and then the next morning i'm tired i'm
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paying the piper because i drank the night before yeah and i feel and now i don't want to go the
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it was just this whole cycle yeah and um and then you know being in the fitness community right
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i i walked around with like so much shame and regret and guilt and like i have to be this leader and
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and i'm like yeah there's pressure in that for sure time right yeah yeah yeah yeah so one of the things
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that people say when they talk about 75 hard and completing it is that it like we're talking about
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alcohol here right yes um it did fundamentally change my relationship with alcohol yeah and i
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think it's fundamentally changed my relationship with food too um and people yeah like what do you
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speak on that for a minute chris well i mean it makes you aware of everything that's going on around
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you yeah you just constantly everybody's being you know berate berated with just chemicals every with
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everything that you do and you just watch people that aren't aware of it and you i mean yes you're
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judging them but not in a like a negative light right that you can see that they have way more
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potential than that they're they're putting out they're wasting their lives basically and they're just
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setting a terrible example and they're not you know leading the way for the people that are around
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them especially their kids so if they're just constantly you know out of shape eating all these
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terrible things or that's just something that's gonna be passed down it's one of those things that
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they know what they they hate the way that clothes fit them or the way they feel going on public and
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that's just something they're passing that pain down to their kids and yeah it's just a you know
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people need it sounds like a lot of your motivation was for your daughter man yeah that's so important
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to me it's like don't really the most important thing to me for the last like i said i had to change
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something like five years ago i've basically stayed single in that amount of time except for
00:24:03.220
like a six month period but uh i just i work out of town a lot so it's one of those things where i
00:24:08.100
don't expect somebody to just be okay with that so i don't even put any effort into trying to get some
00:24:12.240
what's anybody yeah and then whenever i come home i'll go make some money i'll come home we'll go out
00:24:16.820
to you know some beach somewhere yeah so we go on a lot of trips that's just what i've put my money
00:24:21.960
into yeah yeah i feel like i've you're trying to set the best example though yeah i don't know if it's
00:24:27.220
that for sure that and i don't know if i'm trying to like make up for whenever i was a loser
00:24:30.460
there's probably some of that bro and then also like the fact that i know that what i wanted
00:24:35.180
whenever i was her age as in a dad that so i just gave that to her yeah and so she has a better
00:24:40.820
chance than in in this world yeah for sure you can see for sure it takes and the fact that i told
00:24:46.440
her that i was gonna win this she's known that about you and me listening to you for for these
00:24:50.200
all these years yeah she was listening to the mfco project with me that's awesome so for her to see
00:24:55.760
what it's what happens whenever you put in that work and then dude it's everything that's what
00:25:00.960
that's the whole thing that's the whole reason the world is where it is it's because more people
00:25:05.660
aren't taking that responsibility seriously exactly dude big respect for that man thank you yeah i feel
00:25:10.900
like a lot of people who right now i think there's a cultural movement of people who are realizing you
00:25:20.060
know they're now in their upper 30s or they're in their 40s and they're like holy shit
00:25:24.260
we're the leaders now like we have to get our lives together we can't just like rely on these
00:25:29.920
people who are now 70 years old to lead the way right and uh it's really cool to see that in culture
00:25:35.420
man really cool that you did that for her that's badass man thank you yeah what about you in terms
00:25:40.860
of how it's changed your relationship um you know with food alcohol just people or things that you see
00:25:47.600
your perspective in general yeah um that was probably one of the most surprising things that came out of
00:25:53.520
all of this for me um it feels lonely because i really had to remove myself from the environments
00:26:00.900
that i was typically in right like i wasn't going out on a thursday and friday night anymore i wasn't
00:26:06.300
hitting up the breweries on a saturday or going to a bar on sunday to watch football games and drink
00:26:11.140
right and and most people do that and i had to completely remove myself it was making me so sick
00:26:19.300
and so um so it it's lonely it's it's kind of lonely like not many people are living a life like
00:26:26.580
this and um so i'm kind of in this like i feel like this weird space of like i left that table
00:26:34.140
and i want to go to that table but i'm still like i still need to finish you know all of live hard like
00:26:40.400
i still have so much more work to do right and so um but i wouldn't trade it for the world i would
00:26:47.600
never trade going back to that ever again and then with my food i mean yeah when i eliminate the foods
00:26:55.540
that trigger me because i'm a recovering anorexic bulimic compulsive overeater and um i had a severe
00:27:01.880
eating disorder in my early 20s and um when i finally got really honest and said you know what
00:27:08.660
these certain foods trigger you all the time this alcohol lowers your inhibition you go into these
00:27:14.360
foods then you're binging and you're you know whatever the case may be so like i said before
00:27:19.340
it was the subtraction of all the stuff and it was really just getting super clear and honest and stop
00:27:25.660
lying to myself like no you got this you're cool you can go back into that you can kind of dip your
00:27:31.340
feet no it was never a dipping of the feet right so it was a full-on slip and like a tidal wave
00:27:37.380
taking me out so um so it it's just been the the best reset and um it came from a place of just
00:27:46.620
having to get absolutely clear on me let's talk about that for a second you mentioned the the
00:27:53.380
lying to yourself yeah i i think at least for me the biggest thing that i get out of the program and
00:28:03.420
living the live hard lifestyle which i do and i have for five years is the awareness of my internal
00:28:10.520
dialogue what i talk about in the program the bitch voice and the boss voice before the program
00:28:17.620
i was not aware of that dialogue the way that i am now now i knew i i knew it was there but i didn't
00:28:26.720
pay attention to it the way that i do you know and and that's something that's really helped
00:28:32.300
me develop personally is just becoming more aware of the justifications that i make for things
00:28:39.840
and i found that that has translated into this situation where i examine my justifications in
00:28:46.620
all areas of my life not just in these areas that encompass the program and so it's made me a much
00:28:53.000
better person uh in general but it's it's also triggered the over the last five years it's triggered
00:28:59.900
the a massive amount of work because i've had to be honest with myself because that awareness is
00:29:06.840
not just exclusive to don't eat that food or it's okay to not exercise today because you worked hard
00:29:13.420
it's literally everything now i'm like in tune with everything that i have going on and the two the two
00:29:19.880
influences in our minds which is you know the voice of the weak and the voice of the strong which
00:29:24.160
we all have um i was a complete liar to myself for fucking i mean fuck dude up until five years ago
00:29:37.420
you know what i'm saying i could justify anything i could justify anything to myself i could say
00:29:41.980
literally in one breath i could look you in the face and say i'm starting my diet tomorrow i'm going
00:29:48.000
to do this and this and this and then tomorrow in the afternoon you could see me eating a pizza i'd be
00:29:52.160
like yeah dude you know what this happened and i'm gonna start tomorrow like that's that was the
00:29:58.500
thing i was dealing with i couldn't even stick to something for a fucking day it'd be if i got the
00:30:03.680
three or four days i automatically went where you were talking about earlier chris where i'm like oh
00:30:08.200
dude i went four days dude i'm i deserve that i deserve that pizza i deserve those beers i deserve that
00:30:15.120
night out and that's how i live my life so i can never make any real progress let's let's talk about
00:30:20.920
that a little bit like what what kind of awareness has it brought to your guys's internal dialogues
00:30:26.500
uh that maybe you know you you didn't have before or did you have it before and you just you just
00:30:31.540
ignored it yeah i i at least for me i mean this program when like you said like you get really
00:30:38.940
honest with these things right these these six things right they either did get done yeah or they
00:30:45.260
did not get done yeah the score is 100 or zero right that's it and that type of mindset when
00:30:51.040
you're training your mind at least for me every day it starts to bleed into relationships that you
00:30:56.020
don't have maybe how you're parenting i have two little girls um finances home it just bleeds into
00:31:03.380
everything and all of a sudden like you're this person that just speaks the facts it gets you centered
00:31:09.320
into reality completely yes because and also because i'm not numbing out anymore with food and
00:31:15.540
alcohol right right and so i have to face that that was probably one of the coolest things it's like
00:31:22.360
you can't numb out with food and alcohol anymore carly so you got to face it right now and the solution
00:31:27.720
was solved like that something i've been putting off for five seven ten years subjects that i didn't
00:31:33.160
want to talk to my husband about or whatever the case like let's go time yeah like let's do it right
00:31:38.020
because you don't want to stay in that pain all the hard things become much easier completely yeah
00:31:43.240
dude i get that a hundred percent yeah like it's it becomes very simple to just address things for what
00:31:50.160
they are yes there's no bullshit there's no and and it takes it does take that clarity get to that
00:31:56.900
point i think for a lot of people yeah you know a lot of people live their life in that cloud of
00:32:01.320
well it's not really that no motherfucker it's that it is yeah it's either this or it's that yeah
00:32:09.400
you know you either are or you aren't and i feel like so many people nowadays spend so much of their
00:32:15.280
life in the nether region of indecision or justification to where they can't make any
00:32:23.300
decisions to do anything like you're saying you know 10 12 years you're holding on to things that
00:32:28.720
you want to address or want to do or things that are maybe you know need to be taken care of
00:32:33.600
and they cause you anxiety they cause you frustration they cause you stress they cause you pain and and
00:32:40.480
then like dude when you get clarity on it you're like this is over in two seconds yeah you know and
00:32:47.440
i think i felt that way too what about you it was something i was always aware of yeah but i would
00:32:53.760
always fall a victim to it yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't listen to the boss voice yeah i would
00:32:58.400
i would you know cave and go drink or i would eat the the crap food or whatever it is but a lot of
00:33:03.880
people just never aren't they aren't aware of it because they're they're used in all devices or
00:33:09.600
drinking or they're eating the foods that are full of crap and then just like you said in that cloud
00:33:13.480
so they aren't even aware they aren't they don't set goals so they don't know what it's like to
00:33:18.720
achieve goals and and that's been so long that they've done it that they just don't think that
00:33:23.380
they can do anything so they have that doubt and that that uh they're not able to just make a
00:33:31.620
decision and start doing anything and then they just keep going back and forth to the same that
00:33:36.640
cycle of just starting something and then stopping something and trying to find a new a new thing
00:33:40.780
trying to change the plan they'll even try to alter 75 hard to make it fit there they don't even
00:33:46.000
understand that that's their whole problem exactly your whole problem is that you're taking the
00:33:51.500
circumstances and trying to mold them to you as opposed to just addressing them in reality exactly
00:33:57.800
it's an awareness bro you know i it's also an awareness you point out a really good thing
00:34:02.820
is that when you tell yourself you're going to do something and you don't do it over and over and
00:34:07.540
over again what do you think happens to the trust factor you have with yourself or the confidence
00:34:12.420
you have in yourself right you know this and you know this but i'm talking to you guys listening
00:34:16.460
you guys have to understand every single time you tell yourself i'm going to do this i'm going to do
00:34:22.460
that and then you don't do it you are diminishing the trust in the belief that you have in yourself
00:34:28.040
which creates lack of confidence it creates doubt it creates low self-esteem it creates a bad
00:34:35.120
personal identity it creates all of these things simply because you are lying to yourself
00:34:40.680
just like if you had a friend who came to you every single day and he said hey i'm going to do
00:34:45.200
this for you i'm going to do this for you i'm going to do this for you at the end of the day none of
00:34:48.260
the shit's done and then you go in you find them you know laying on the couch and you're like hey
00:34:52.220
uh why didn't the yard get cut why didn't this happen why probably some of you guys feel this way
00:34:56.540
with your kids you're like hey why did this not happen or why did that oh you know and then after
00:35:01.420
you know a week of that you're like dude what the fuck and they don't realize that that happens to
00:35:07.700
yourself we do that to ourselves and so a lot of people a lot of you guys who are living in this
00:35:12.760
place where you're not happy with yourselves you think low of yourself you're frustrated with
00:35:18.100
yourself you have doubt in yourself you don't believe in yourself you are creating that by making
00:35:23.720
promises that you do not fulfill and that is the power of the program the power of this program is
00:35:30.320
very black and white you either did or you did not and if you did you can actually go see that you
00:35:36.200
did and that creates and builds the confidence that builds the self-esteem that builds everything
00:35:42.160
that you're lacking now and it reverses the process and i wish people would just understand
00:35:46.720
that it's actually very simple this is not you know you don't need to have a psychotherapist to
00:35:52.740
figure this out bro you're not going to trust your friend who lies to you every day and once he lies
00:35:56.900
to you for 30 40 50 days in a row you're probably going to be like fuck this guy now imagine that over
00:36:02.480
the course of 10 years imagine that the course over 20 years you're going to fucking hate that
00:36:06.980
person so a lot of you guys that struggle with your own self-loathing you look in the mirror and
00:36:11.700
you're like bro i'm a piece of shit blah blah blah the reason you feel that way is because you don't
00:36:16.560
follow through any of the shit that you say you're going to do ever not even a little shit
00:36:19.900
so start somewhere and start building it that's what's going to fix your problem yeah that's exactly
00:36:26.320
why yeah that's how you get the confidence yeah dude the program the way it's supposed to be done
00:36:30.140
yeah that's where it comes from yeah it's interesting how many people don't understand
00:36:34.280
you know like they think they think it's a fitness it's not fitness bro look i've said this gazillion
00:36:41.660
times if you want to get fucking fit that's all your goal is here's the problem with it all right
00:36:47.560
yeah there's better programs that probably get you more fit quicker all right training twice a day
00:36:53.640
doing all these things are there other ways yeah there probably are but here's the reality
00:37:00.000
the reason that you go up and down with your fitness is because you haven't trained your
00:37:04.420
brain to understand discipline in a true fashion and so we have to start looking at things differently
00:37:11.360
it's not it's not and this is this goes for all areas of our life this doesn't just go for our
00:37:17.480
fitness this goes for our relationships what we do in our career uh what we do in our friendships
00:37:25.220
what we do you know in any area it's easy to justify the easier route every single time but
00:37:33.540
until you start addressing the truth to yourself and handling problems it's literally impossible to
00:37:39.160
feel good about yourself you can't you cannot do it you can go to every therapy session you can read
00:37:44.740
every book you can go to every seminar you can fucking say all the affirmations but at the end of
00:37:52.060
the day dude it's where the tire hits the fucking pavement and it has to be done and that's what
00:37:57.800
people want to avoid all this shit they want to avoid the hard stuff you know i want the easier out
00:38:03.120
give me a give me a pill give me a this give me a that you know i'm gonna say some nice stuff about
00:38:08.260
myself cool man that's all good stuff but the reality is until you legitimately start building life
00:38:14.760
to where you can look at yourself in the mirror 50 days into the program or a year into the live
00:38:21.680
hard program and say holy shit dude i am a completely different fucking human being now you're talking
00:38:27.880
about real confidence now you're talking about power because you understand that you are in control
00:38:33.740
of the outcome like dude it's hard to be confident when you think that you're not in control of the
00:38:38.840
outcome and i think this is the biggest lie that we deal with in society right now we have so many
00:38:44.720
people that believe that the way they are has to do with you know some sort of cause that is outside
00:38:52.140
themselves and so because they believe that they abandon every single controllable that they could
00:38:58.180
possibly have saying well fuck it you know what my parents are fat i'm fat uh my parents are broke
00:39:04.440
i'm broke uh everybody else is a loser so it is what it is and we start telling ourselves all this shit
00:39:10.980
and we abandon all the things which is most of them that make a difference in our lives what we eat
00:39:17.280
what we put in our mind how we treat people you know like what we actually do how hard we work these
00:39:24.420
things build a sense of self-worth that cannot be replicated any other way than just doing it
00:39:29.580
and the controllables are very simple what are you putting in your mouth what are you putting in your
00:39:35.400
brain how are you moving your body right like these things are simple and everybody can control them and
00:39:40.820
when you start to control those things you can learn that the outcome is very predictable on the other
00:39:46.480
side and i think having that knowledge which both of you have expressed that you feel that now
00:39:51.080
that control over your lives how much different does that make you feel about things you know i don't
00:39:56.900
think people ever really truly i think people some people do but i don't think people ever truly get
00:40:02.740
to a point where through to traditional fitness okay they get their body fit all right but that person's
00:40:12.660
and you you're you guys are both examples of this you've trained your entire lives all right
00:40:17.340
how many times were you fucking ripped before you did the program oh plenty plenty how many times for
00:40:24.200
you plenty me too yes okay so i'm out here saying you know people are out here talking like oh it's
00:40:30.600
fucking physical no it's not physical bro it's about teaching you that the controllables that you are in
00:40:37.360
control of can very predictably control the outcome of your life and when you start to realize that it's
00:40:44.260
not just in the wind and it's not just up to chance and it's not just luck and you are actually in
00:40:50.920
control that's a powerful fucking feeling dude that's the ultimate confidence that's that's where
00:40:56.640
we're trying to get people to and i think if we had a society of people that understood that
00:41:01.540
how much different would society look night and day i mean come it'd be the completely opposite of
00:41:07.200
what we have yes most problems would probably be gone yeah you know yeah yeah dude i don't know man
00:41:12.540
you know i mean have you guys seen that like like people have people that you know have seen you do
00:41:19.000
what you do like talk about that because like you know the people who have seen and then been inspired
00:41:24.380
i want to hear about that stuff yeah i mean i'll speak i mean we yeah it's you know what trips me out
00:41:31.500
andy is people have seen my transformation and people know my story and you see a picture of me
00:41:39.660
and i looked just like you and now you see me and they just sit there and they're just like
00:41:46.520
you want to order a pizza and i'm like huh like i don't you want to get from point a to point b
00:41:54.420
yeah you're right where i was yeah like what are you waiting for why are you leaving so much on the
00:42:00.820
table and i have so many people and it pains me so much that are in that spot and they won't fucking
00:42:08.500
move yeah they won't and it's just like it's it's so simple how much of that do you think is the
00:42:14.240
ignorance of never experiencing anything other than what they currently have you know maybe i think
00:42:22.120
it's a lot of ego i think it's a lot of ego i think at least it's what i feel like it's like
00:42:28.300
no i'll figure it out on my own i'll do it this way yeah it's never worked that way you've been
00:42:34.360
sitting 30 40 50 pounds overweight for the last six years i just transformed my life in 75 fucking
00:42:40.340
days yeah you know but but you know i was talking to my husband about this i've always been i think
00:42:45.820
it comes from sports i've always been like if somebody is killing it right and is doing better
00:42:51.420
than me and has an edge i'm always like what are you doing show me i want to know because that's how
00:42:57.200
i always made myself better as a fighter so i think i developed that skill you know where you you
00:43:01.860
don't have the ego and you just like give it to me right and so yeah it just it blows my mind
00:43:07.940
because i see so many people that are in that space addicted to the alcohol you know just you know
00:43:14.800
they're good for a couple days and then thursday comes around friday saturday and then they're just
00:43:18.880
back into that cycle can't even go the whole january dry right you know they get to day 28 or 29 so
00:43:25.100
um it feels like an ego thing like yeah she did that but i'm gonna do it this way and i don't need
00:43:32.180
to do all that i you know i can and it's just like no yeah this is the pathway i think a lot i mean we
00:43:38.240
can't force anybody to change right like you have to get so fucking sick of yourself that you like
00:43:42.760
literally look in the mirror and you're like i fucking hate that motherfucker that's how i was
00:43:46.420
like yeah i was too and and and i think most people can relate to that feeling at some point
00:43:51.420
in their life right um and that's okay it's not supposed to be that way guys you could fix that
00:43:56.780
yes and the thing is is i feel like a lot of reason that people don't choose to go to really get their
00:44:03.100
shit together is because they are ignorant to the fact of how good they're supposed to actually feel
00:44:09.280
because of how normalized being like what we would call normal is right like we turn on the tv dude
00:44:17.600
all we see is pizza commercials snack commercials alcohol commercials and then pharma commercials right
00:44:25.920
when we when they show us a normal what a normal man's supposed to look like at in his
00:44:31.860
late 30s or 40s what do they what do they talk about dad bod you know oh it's okay to be a little
00:44:37.500
shitty right it's okay to be it's okay to be soft and you know what dude sometimes you are a little
00:44:42.700
soft and that's okay that's life you know we're not talking about living this every single minute of
00:44:50.000
your entire life that's why the program's broken up into phases because when you start to recognize
00:44:55.120
that your edge is getting a little dull it's time for a little tune-up and you're in control of when
00:44:59.100
you do those phases except the first and the last one so you know i think there's i think there's a
00:45:05.460
big problem with how normal it is to um for people to live below standard and how we're propagated that
00:45:17.600
in society and i don't think most people realize like how good they can look how good they can feel
00:45:22.840
how good they can feel about themselves and how good they can feel about other people and how much
00:45:27.740
control they have over things that they seem to not have control over you know like dude chris you
00:45:33.660
know when you're talking about alcohol bro you know i know that guy like i know what that guy's
00:45:38.320
about like dude if i come to you on monday or monday chris starts his diet and i come to him on
00:45:43.960
wednesday and say hey let's go get some beers he's fucking saying yes yeah no matter what yep like dude
00:45:48.660
i was that guy too i was the guy that could not say no someone said a beer in front of me they said
00:45:54.100
i know you're on a diet but dude come on i had no power like none and it wasn't until i like really
00:46:01.800
like thought about it very simply like very simply and looked at that beer and i was like
00:46:07.100
that's a fucking inanimate object that has that is nothing that's a that's a glass with some
00:46:16.080
fucking liquid in it and i'm letting that control my life fuck that yeah and that was where i got to
00:46:22.980
with it i got and i got that way about food too i started looking at food and i'm like that that's a
00:46:29.020
fucking pizza bro that's not like like fuck that pizza you know what i'm saying like as stupid as
00:46:35.960
that sounds like that's the i almost got like mad at the shit you know where i'm like dude you're not
00:46:41.640
gonna tell me that this fucking food or this brand or this advertisement or this urge
00:46:47.240
is going to control my life you know and and i think when you start looking at it that way it flips
00:46:54.680
switches for people you know it's not just about looking good at the pool bro it's not just about
00:46:59.260
being fit it's not about having muscles and abs when you think about it like that it's very superficial
00:47:06.180
when you think about it as an actual mentality that you need to have in all areas of your life it
00:47:11.200
changes your shit and um yeah i don't know man that's for me that's been a big that's been a big
00:47:19.160
thing it's understanding you know and and and controlling what i can and not allowing things
00:47:26.300
that shouldn't control me to control me yeah what do you think well it's easy to let things just
00:47:31.080
take over your day especially if you don't aren't aware of what you're doing to yourself yeah people
00:47:35.760
will just look at their journey of they have to lose 100 pounds and just at how hard it's going to
00:47:40.880
be yeah but they don't take into the consideration the person that they're going to change into as they're
00:47:45.500
you know reaching that goal so they're they think it's just so far away and then they don't realize
00:47:51.620
how far they've already actually came yeah so they just don't start and they don't realize what
00:47:55.660
the feelings that come as you're losing that way you're going to feel better you're going to be
00:47:59.820
more confident you're going to just feel better about everything in general but everybody's just
00:48:04.800
looking for the easy fix the overnight success the the shot the pill whatever to lose the weight
00:48:09.860
fastest oh yeah that's putting in the work the fucking osempic shots yeah yeah yeah well i've always
00:48:15.180
been the in shape friend so people have always came to me for workout advice that most of them
00:48:20.020
never took so it came to the point where i just got tired of giving it because people i've had
00:48:24.440
people take advice from me and then go pay for a diet from somebody else and get basically the same
00:48:28.040
thing and not do either one yeah so i just got to where i'm like if you're going to pay me i guess
00:48:32.460
i'll do it but yeah that's not something i started offering or anything yeah i'm i'm capable of doing it
00:48:37.340
but no it's just it's a matter of just taking initiative and and accountability of your life
00:48:43.900
and it's a matter of you know setting the example that you need to set for the people all all in
00:48:48.860
your in your circle whether it's just your friends and your family or the people you work with you
00:48:53.200
need to be the one that steps up and changes things that way they can see what is possible
00:48:56.800
they may not see it in their own life or have people around them that are it might take two three
00:49:01.280
years for them to understand yeah but as long as you're living that example and you're a constant
00:49:04.700
reminder eventually it's going to catch on man that's yeah that's how i feel where i'm at right now
00:49:08.220
people are people are starting to come around to it in my life or the people that see me doing it and
00:49:13.020
you know like i was like i said i was probably a loser i would say five years ago yeah whenever i
00:49:18.020
started you know taking more initiative and and stop playing the victim is what it was yeah thinking
00:49:23.760
i was owed something and changing your story from being a victim to overcoming the shit exactly yeah
00:49:28.800
bro that's a huge deal man changing your entire identity i just posted about this today it's it's it's
00:49:35.000
about changing how you see yourself i think that people people lack the ability to understand
00:49:44.340
that who the the reality that you're currently living is actually the byproduct of somebody else
00:49:53.260
that made choices for you which happens to be a past version of you many months ago right or even
00:50:00.440
years ago and you don't have to accept that so when it comes to changing your identity and who it
00:50:07.440
is you are you could actually change who you are right now the thing is though is that you have to
00:50:12.960
back it up with those actions and that's what's going to change the reality 30 60 90 days from now or a
00:50:19.520
year from now or two years from now or five years from now however big the play is you're trying to
00:50:23.980
run and so like that's how i think about it i think about it like if you want to be a different
00:50:29.400
person you can be a different person today but you have to start having the different person behavior
00:50:35.300
to produce the reality and that takes time and so like when people you know like because i was that
00:50:41.520
guy i was 350 pounds right yeah i'm looking at the mountain i have to climb and i'm like fuck
00:50:45.820
how am i gonna climb this and i'm gonna climb it just like everybody climbs everything
00:50:50.180
one fucking step at a time and that's the reality dude and if we could plug in every single person
00:50:56.720
on this earth if we could take their finger and stick it in like an electrical socket and that
00:51:01.600
they got a like they got like a one hour experience of what their life would actually be like what they
00:51:08.780
would actually be like how they would feel how they would look how their relationships would be how their
00:51:14.220
careers would be how their parenting would be how much better everything would be if they took care
00:51:20.760
and took their mental discipline and toughness game seriously because that's the core problem
00:51:26.920
the core problem is your inability to make the correct decisions consistently enough that is the
00:51:33.400
core problem the problem isn't that you're fat the problem is you can't make the right decision when
00:51:37.560
it comes time to eat the problem isn't that you're a drunk the problem is you can't make the right
00:51:42.240
decision when you start to drink right right yep that's the problem so we need to fix the core problem
00:51:47.540
if we could take every motherfucker on the planet and stick their finger in a fucking electrical socket
00:51:52.720
that let them experience for one hour what it would look like to actually be the optimal version of
00:51:58.220
themselves every single fucking human on the earth would stop every single thing that they're doing
00:52:04.200
and dedicate all of their time all of their energy all of their resources to becoming that instantly
00:52:10.520
because that's how much better it is so if you're sitting there and you're like fuck i hate where i'm at
00:52:16.540
i'm disgusted by myself good that's a great place to fucking start now let's change that today and
00:52:24.040
let's start following that up with the action and eventually and depending on how far you are away
00:52:30.160
from it if you're 500 pounds gonna take a little longer but the reality is for the amount of time
00:52:36.100
you've lived in this unacceptable version of yourself and you've been miserable the time to correct it is
00:52:44.220
minimal in the big scheme of things in one year and i don't care who you are in one year you can change
00:52:51.200
your entire fucking life and and dude i see it every day i see it by the thousands and um at this point
00:52:59.300
by the hundreds of thousands but i just wish we could come up with a way that would legitimately like
00:53:05.500
make people like let people experience what they could actually be and be like because dude you can't
00:53:11.420
comprehend it when you're living that life dude when you're when you're drinking all that alcohol
00:53:15.240
and you're that much overweight and you're looking in the mirror and you're like fuck i'm gross you put
00:53:20.240
on your pants you know they don't fit you know you don't go to pool parties you don't go to weddings
00:53:25.900
you know you dread going out in public like all of these things this takes away from the human
00:53:31.960
experience in such a drastic way and people get used to it they start living in that reality and and it
00:53:38.660
becomes their normal and they're just like well this is what i got no motherfucker it's not what
00:53:43.220
you got what you got is the potential to be everything that you want to be and you're not
00:53:48.700
exercising any of the actions that will materialize that potential in reality and if we could just get
00:53:53.980
people to understand that as a whole fuck dude the entire everything about the world will look
00:54:00.700
completely different completely how people treat themselves or how people treat others like fuck i go on
00:54:07.640
and on and on go ahead it would be literally like walking into first form everything would be
00:54:12.500
operating it would be trash on the ground places or well people yeah bro people would be taking
00:54:16.900
initiatives yeah to go to do the extra all the extra work it's just that's cool that's what when i run
00:54:22.700
for president bro that's going to be my campaign yes come visit first form and that's what it'll be
00:54:27.520
like i love it yeah i love it yeah we got some awesome people here man there's no doubt about that
00:54:33.220
yeah everybody is super jacked just so y'all know everybody is walking around just jacked well it's
00:54:39.100
so if they're not super jacked they have a tremendous story of where they came from right and they're
00:54:43.880
working on it it's amazing yeah everybody here works hard yeah it's badass it's a great place to
00:54:48.640
come every day i wake up dude i legit it's one of the things i think about literally every day i'm like
00:54:56.460
fuck dude how lucky are you to come to a place every single day where everybody's trying everybody
00:55:04.960
cares everybody's trying to be better just to be in that environment
00:55:08.500
it's it's amazing yeah feel very fortunate to be in that situation i'm i'm proud to be a part of it
00:55:16.540
i'm a part of the legionnaire program oh are you yeah i joined it out me too yeah that's awesome
00:55:21.060
yeah just a couple days ago really i passed the interview with connor yes yeah that's what's up
00:55:25.920
yeah that is what's up that's i'm so excited yeah i pretty much i think i sent signed up the same day
00:55:31.200
i sent in my essay for the contest yeah mid-november that's cool man but yeah i just i mean you stand
00:55:36.620
for what's right and for for our freedom and for our rights and you know you're taking a hit and you
00:55:41.180
don't ever you know want anything in return except for people to live to their highest standard and
00:55:46.220
and support each other i do want some things in return well i mean yeah i want some motherfuckers
00:55:50.640
to actually go out and fucking do shit you know what i'm saying like i don't want you guys just to
00:55:55.460
consume my shit and sit there and be a success zombie or one of these weirdos that goes to every
00:56:01.140
seminar this is why i got out of the seminar stuff like i won't even go to the shit anymore because
00:56:05.420
every time i go to one it's the same fucking people and it's like bro you're the same yeah the
00:56:10.260
fuck are you doing yeah it gets old man uh and by the way i also want you to buy my shit i'm just
00:56:15.620
gonna be real about that too like yeah that's i'm giving value i want to support me yeah please
00:56:21.340
you know what i'm saying like i'm not gonna sit here and bullshit right yeah i keep it fucking real
00:56:26.080
but you know i try to over deliver the value so i appreciate the fuck out of that man for both you
00:56:30.620
guys it's badass yeah you changed mine and my daughter's life in the same that's awesome man
00:56:35.360
you know process so it means a lot to me too just that for everything that you stood up for and
00:56:39.900
never gave up all the stories that you have of all the times where you could have
00:56:43.120
and you didn't and then this has all been created yeah and it's still well those stories keep coming
00:56:48.200
bro like look dude if you're going to be on the path it's a constant thing and this is why mental
00:56:54.220
toughness and discipline is so hard man it's it's and it's so it's so crucial you know if you're going
00:56:59.500
to do anything man like whether it's building a life uh as a family or building a great family or
00:57:04.860
building a great business or uh uh an organization a charity a church whatever whatever you're trying
00:57:12.620
to do these things are abnormal it's an abnormal thing just let's just take it from a life aspect
00:57:19.220
right it's an abnormal thing which is weird but it's an abnormal thing to want to go out and be your
00:57:26.820
best like that's the society we live in it's like you're looked at as a weirdo yeah you know what
00:57:31.900
do you mean you don't want to do this what do you mean you don't want to do that what do you mean
00:57:34.760
you what do you what do you mean yeah like this is what we're supposed to do yeah you know and that's
00:57:40.140
that's where i'm at now so it does there is a loneliness factor to it in terms of you can't
00:57:45.760
really relate the same way that you used to be able to to everybody else exactly but the people
00:57:50.460
that you do connect with the people that are on that wavelength the relationships are much much much
00:57:56.880
deeper and better agree and that's something that like i'm very grateful for too so it does shrink
00:58:02.380
your circle but it improves the quality of of those relationships at least that's that's been my
00:58:08.740
experience same yeah i have far less people that i talk to on a regular basis but the people i do talk
00:58:14.840
to are very uh they're quality individuals that contribute to what i'm trying to do and i contribute to
00:58:20.480
what they're trying to do exactly yeah can i kind of i want to circle back on you know identity and
00:58:26.620
habits and um i you know i mentioned that you know i'm recovering anorexic bulimic compulsive year i had
00:58:32.780
to go into rehab i have spent thousands upon thousands of hours in a hard thing to beat yes in a chair with a
00:58:40.720
therapist i've been on paxil i've been on you know antidepressants nothing has rebooted me as fast
00:58:49.020
as 75 hard nothing so if somebody is looking for a pathway somebody is looking for a program to
00:58:56.780
create a new identity and to become the best versions of themselves it is this it is this
00:59:02.620
fucking program right here and i i mean i was up against the darkest hours of my life i was up against
00:59:09.780
the gnarliest depression i couldn't believe that i had fallen off the horse after 20 years like
00:59:15.540
how could i be worse off than when i was in rehab like this is crazy and to be rebooted in 75 days
00:59:22.780
and to feel that like i said it's like the most powerful drug but it's like what can't i do i'm
00:59:29.340
unstoppable yeah like so i just have to say if anybody is looking for a pathway it is this what do
00:59:37.620
you think what do you think about this though because this is something that people say and i
00:59:42.200
experience this too what about when you're not on the program so i'm miserable okay i don't know
00:59:47.820
about chris but i am miserable can i tell you something so i was off of it and oh i i hated it
00:59:53.820
and the second i logged back in on february 1st literally andy i go oh thank god i felt home yeah and i
01:00:01.120
felt safe from myself i felt safe again like i didn't it was like here we go let's fucking go it's
01:00:09.200
go time yeah and that's it's interesting because it's my favorite do you do you agree with that or
01:00:13.880
yeah i'm good when i'm on it and i'm and i may have done a good job while i'm on it but i'm still
01:00:18.240
not to the point where that that didn't correct me all the way and it's not going to correct
01:00:21.640
somebody listening to this they think it's just going to be 75 days it's going to be
01:00:24.980
the rest of your life yeah yeah that's what i think is cool about charged version or
01:00:28.900
boost to get you going is the 75 so yeah well dude that's what i think is cool about the
01:00:34.400
program the way it's laid out is like you can adjust the program um in terms of when you do
01:00:41.760
the phases as opposed in terms of when you think you need it yeah and that's where the awareness
01:00:46.640
aspect comes in right yeah like there's one thing to have awareness of your internal dialogue there's
01:00:52.020
another thing to have macro awareness of your overall life where you can look at it and you can
01:00:56.240
say all right i'm slipping a little bit my shit ain't on point i don't feel right it's time for me to
01:01:01.540
get shit broke back in for 30 days right and then you go back to the 30 days it sharpens your blade
01:01:06.780
you go back out there you fight a little bit your blade gets a little dull and you repeat that process
01:01:11.820
over and over and over again and for me and i know everybody likes to have their own opinions and that's
01:01:17.260
okay but for me that's been the only way i've been able to maintain i've i've i lost 110 pounds in 2016
01:01:24.800
and i haven't and i'm in the best shape of my life i continue to get better and better and better
01:01:29.800
um i i wouldn't i've never been able to maintain like that ever yeah and it's because of the
01:01:37.580
awareness that i now have because of what we're talking about you know people say well what about
01:01:42.520
after 75 days well if you go off the program guess what if you did it right you're gonna feel like
01:01:46.640
shit yeah you know and that shouldn't surprise you because you feel so good when you're doing what
01:01:51.960
you're supposed to do that when you don't do what you're supposed to do guess what you're supposed
01:01:57.100
to feel like shit so like it realigns your baseline standard in a way where like it's it's you you
01:02:04.880
really can't live another way uh unless you totally abandon it completely and you just act like you
01:02:09.920
never fucking heard of it ever it's it's like a it's like one it's like one of those things like
01:02:13.940
once you see it you can't unsee it you can't unsee it at all in every area of your life right and
01:02:19.700
it's and it's um yeah i think that's like even though it's a hard thing like when i'm not in it
01:02:26.380
i'm miserable but it's so good to know that this is home yeah and i well you also know that when you
01:02:32.840
are feeling off you know the solution exactly i can come back to home at any time and sharpen my
01:02:37.880
and that is so empowering because i can't tell you how many times i've done this program or that or i've
01:02:44.220
sat with this therapist with that and it's just like you're just out in outer space like and i'm
01:02:48.900
like there's nothing worse there's nothing worse than being a place that you are or in that dark
01:02:57.920
hopeless doubt grossed out with yourself place and then not know what to do about it yeah like that's
01:03:04.600
that's what creates the hopelessness that's what creates the shit where we're like well fuck i might
01:03:09.880
as well just give up you know and one of the things i like about the program is is uh is this
01:03:15.860
aspect we're talking about because like dude once you if you do it right you're kind of fucked
01:03:19.620
you you really are like there's no going back now i yeah when i told my husband it was day five and i
01:03:26.000
go i'm in this for life and he goes he like goes what and i'm like i go well it's 75 days and the
01:03:32.180
other ones are 30 30 he goes okay okay cool okay yeah yeah okay let's do this let's do this and i mean
01:03:37.220
it's a total part of our whole culture of our family now you know i mean my little girl my
01:03:42.880
seven-year-old got up at 4 30 in the morning on the day i left that was yesterday did it was that
01:03:47.680
yesterday yeah you're going on no sleep dude i'm on like two hours of sleep um and did my 45 minute
01:03:54.000
outdoor walk we're out the door by 5 a.m i mean they everybody is just all hands on it's a it's a
01:03:59.440
part of the culture of our family but it started with me first right and it's like you always talk
01:04:04.540
about it starts with us then our family then our neighborhood then our community city state
01:04:10.080
country they're right that's it that's the fucking thing that's the jam right there yeah everybody
01:04:15.300
wants i you know everybody wants to talk about what's wrong in the world but they don't want to
01:04:19.200
address the source of it yep and the source of it is our own selves it always is it's always going to
01:04:23.920
come down to that and you can pretend that you're not a leader you could pretend that you don't matter
01:04:28.000
you could tell yourself that no one cares but those are all bullshit lies and usually they're
01:04:33.120
they come from one of two places one you either have just beaten yourself to the point or you've
01:04:38.560
been beaten to the point by the world that you truly believe you're irrelevant which is not true
01:04:43.540
yep okay you have drastic amounts of relevance and importance and contributions to make that you're not
01:04:52.200
being able to make because you're living this life that is just so below your standard and you've become
01:04:57.020
accustomed to it um or two they think it's someone else's responsibility and there's some way there's
01:05:03.980
some other way to fix it i i don't know how to fix i don't know how to fix the world without fixing
01:05:09.980
the individual i mean i i don't how can you do that you can't yeah so like and the cool thing is is
01:05:16.100
then people will say well you can't fix the whole world okay that might be true but what if you start
01:05:21.700
to live a better life and what if all the people around you become aligned with the path that you're
01:05:27.220
on and now your entire world is that way yeah it makes life a lot better a lot you know because
01:05:32.860
you're dealing with people who are aligned who are pushing you who are helping you who are picking you
01:05:37.380
up when you're down who are making your life better as opposed to just some drinking buddies
01:05:41.200
you know and by the way i like my drinking buddies but i don't want to be around them all the time
01:05:46.600
because we're not on the same path so i think one of the best things that came along with doing the
01:05:51.980
program is the like people probably look at you and see you don't really if you took a loss it it's
01:05:57.720
not as big of a deal or maybe it is a huge deal but it doesn't affect you as much as it would have
01:06:02.260
earlier in your business or in your life and even for me especially i've noticed i would dwell on
01:06:09.300
things that were weren't going to matter in a few days or whatever and i would spread them out for
01:06:13.620
months that was something that i was able to just you you're able to handle and able to work through
01:06:19.900
what you're dealing with a lot faster so it doesn't seem like as much of a loss as you would if you
01:06:23.580
weren't controlling the things that you are you are capable and you're able to yeah with the water
01:06:28.820
and the workouts yeah all the things that you put in your brain yeah that's one thing one of the best
01:06:33.620
things i can't i've got out of the program yeah dude it does you know we have to recognize the
01:06:39.420
importance of what chris is talking about because what chris is talking about here is reducing the
01:06:45.220
amount of time that it takes for you to realize that when you take a loss that there's a lesson
01:06:50.600
there and if you can become more aware and reduce the amount of time that you dwell or feel frustrated
01:06:57.880
or angry or stressed because you had a loss you have more time moving forward the right to move forward
01:07:04.840
the right way and so a lot of people do that bro they take a hit or they have a problem or they get
01:07:09.920
sick or they go through a divorce or they have a business problem and it takes them years to get
01:07:15.220
out of it when it when in real real simple terms if they would just say hey uh okay this is what happened
01:07:21.000
this is what i learned and uh i'm gonna move forward not worrying about that anymore and i'm just
01:07:26.220
gonna get back to it and i think that's uh that's part of you know coming up with the uh start
01:07:32.220
back from day one the next day yeah right which you know people either do or they don't right i see
01:07:38.980
that a lot i see a lot of people like oh i feel 74 i'm gonna try again in two months no that's not
01:07:43.440
the point yeah the point is get back at it tomorrow um but yeah dude i agree with that 100 i agree with
01:07:51.600
that it's very helpful though if somebody's dealing with that and they have a long you know history of
01:07:55.820
having i mean most that's probably most people yeah they take their losses and they take them too hard
01:08:00.200
yeah and they dwell on them it becomes their identity yeah i'm a loser yeah right that's their
01:08:05.220
whole yeah and they try to it's just a race to the bottom yeah i like how when you talk about yourself
01:08:09.500
dude you talk about how i i was a loser yeah because you know you're not anymore right it's
01:08:14.260
fucking cool exactly i noticed that right away the first time you said it so so let's talk about
01:08:19.020
this for a second and then we'll uh we'll kind of get in some final words you know
01:08:23.920
can you guys talk a little bit about how you've noticed the impact of the characteristics
01:08:32.440
and the skills of discipline grit fortitude perseverance in other areas of your life
01:08:38.620
besides just this after the program how has this affected your life in every in every way i take
01:08:46.480
pride in everything that i'm doing now i'm walking around if there's trash on the ground picking it up
01:08:50.960
if there's a car that's out next to me i'm putting it away and that translates into every other aspect
01:08:55.540
where i'm spending every little time any little time i have with my daughter or i'm finding something
01:09:01.600
to either talk to her about if i'm not in town or just any little detail with that or also whenever
01:09:07.240
i'm at work it's translated to that where i'm trying to do the best job just so it's looking good
01:09:12.140
for me and as well as the people that i'm working for directly because i'm working under a contracting
01:09:16.780
company and i'm out as a contractor so i'm representing several people basically so it's
01:09:23.240
just a matter of taking pride in everything that you do and it just you do the extra work you are
01:09:28.000
showing up on time you know looking proper and then just doing the extra going the extra mile
01:09:33.860
basically and everything everything and how do you feel about yourself living that way you've you
01:09:39.320
got you take you have you know it's immense confidence you feel superior yeah yeah
01:09:45.120
people don't like that shit they think you're better you think you're better no motherfucker i
01:09:50.320
know i'm better yeah i'm doing all the shit you won't do yeah so that's that sorry about it
01:09:55.260
yeah i like that sorry i'm not sorry either man fuck you do the shit right yeah that's how i feel too
01:10:01.680
brother like i'm with you that's why i said that because i want people to know what you're really
01:10:05.340
saying what you're really saying is i do the shit that you motherfuckers won't do so i feel great
01:10:09.360
about myself and you don't that's what you're saying yep right or wrong that's what i'm saying
01:10:13.420
yeah what do you think yeah it um you know i did this program so that i can show up for me and then
01:10:24.040
i can pour into my family and my girls and my husband and my friends i mean i was so absent and
01:10:30.960
not locked in and um it just it bleeds into every aspect of my life you know um so yeah everything is
01:10:39.420
done like i i just i always start the day the score is zero and you got to get to 100 and if you
01:10:44.020
get to 100 you failed right and so i'm a stay-at-home mom i run our house i you know i'm in charge of a
01:10:49.800
lot of stuff that makes you know my husband's world go around my two daughters world go around and it's
01:10:55.080
like i gotta be locked in and it just um and then i think too like having integrity in every area of my
01:11:02.680
life you know and not lying to myself and not just doing 80 or 70 here but it's 100 in every area and
01:11:10.520
and once you do that and you talk about this it just manufactures your momentum it manufactures
01:11:17.540
your momentum and confidence in like oh there's nothing that can stop me at all you know so um yeah
01:11:25.660
it's it's the best and then you know i don't i'm sure you do i think we all do we have like a little
01:11:30.500
andy on our our shoulder all the time right like you see you see trash on the on the on the sidewalk
01:11:35.780
you better pick that up you know what i mean or anything right it's just you you become a better
01:11:40.280
human you just do so um thank you thank you for this program no man thank you guys for like
01:11:47.720
taking the initiative to fix your lives like that's what we need we need we need people
01:11:53.940
to show people at scale what it looks like to live a higher standard and that's that's where we need
01:12:04.000
like you know people sometimes get confused about how all these shows fit together with personal
01:12:10.340
development and what's going on in the world and it's like bro we're trying to make the world better
01:12:14.420
right and you have to understand that all of us have a personal responsibility and obligation to
01:12:19.960
contribute to that and when we look at you know all of these problems it's real easy to say well
01:12:25.560
that's not my fault i didn't do that this that the other but the truth of the matter is is we all
01:12:29.700
are responsible for the state of the world when we aren't living at standard when we're walking by
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that grocery cart or we're not picking up that trash or we're not following some sort of a healthy
01:12:41.720
program for ourselves or we're you know a hundred pounds overweight and thinking that that's okay it's
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not okay bro because it's not just about you you're hurting other people you're lowering the
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acceptable standard for everybody around you which is going to cause them to be miserable and cause
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them to be unhappy and cause them to be frustrated and dude if we want a better world we have to take
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responsibility for our place in the world which is to set an example for other people that's all we
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can really do we can't make other people do things i mean but we can inspire other people to do
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things by showing them what it's like to overcome and this is when we talk about the victim culture
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identity that a lot of people live in it's easy to live there because there's no work but it's
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incredibly painful because you have to live in this prison knowing that you know you're not really that
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fucked up bro you're just not trying and that's the reality for most people most people just are not
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fucking trying that hard and they'll say i'm trying real hard you don't know okay what'd you eat today
01:13:41.700
yeah what'd you drink today how'd you train today oh i didn't train at all okay well you ain't
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fucking trying man what'd you read i didn't read shit i scrolled instagram all day okay well like i
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said you're not trying you are not trying because you are abandoning the things that you can't control
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and saying i have no control which is a lie it's not the truth um well that's another one of the best
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things about the program is it forces you to effectively manage your time and you see all the time that
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you're wasting every single day yeah that's a huge deal it worked for me people say oh there's i don't
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have time for it yeah you actually have way more time wait you have to be so dialed yeah so dialed
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when you're when you're that dialed in you realize how much time you waste it's crazy yeah it's so
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that was i remember the first time i did it that was like my big revelation i was like holy shit
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yeah that's yeah i have way more time than i thought i had the lies right yeah yeah 100 that
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was a big one that i didn't see because at that point in time you know i was extremely busy with
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with our companies and i really felt like i didn't have the time but i did yeah once i broke it down
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yeah so well you i mean once you're aware of that yeah i'll catch myself now if i'm just sitting
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around scrolling my phone i'll force myself to get on my treadmill at my house and do that or
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sometimes like i'll just be doing it like i'll just it's almost like sickens me where i just want
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to throw it yeah catching myself do this and it's just like you talk about how uh one day i need we
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need to look at cell phones like smokers yeah some cigarettes now yeah and it's just hopefully that's
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where it goes i think i said that even just yesterday i said a number of times you did you say
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yeah yeah you said it today too that's just true yeah i think one day we're going to look at cell
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phones and technology and say this is a predatory technology that stole our lives
01:15:23.940
it created a false reality that isn't even real and we're going to look at it and people are going
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to say dude you you're still on fucking you're still on social media bro yeah like i think that's
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where we're going to end up uh eventually because dude we're seeing we're seeing a lot of the young
01:15:38.460
kids starting to like go away they're getting these cell phone blockers that block all the apps on their
01:15:43.200
phone and they just want a simple phone a flip phone or or a i saw an ad the other day for this
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device that apparently is pretty pretty uh popular with young people i forget what it's called it's
01:15:54.240
like the block or something i can't remember but it's a device you put on your phone to block out
01:15:58.500
all the distractions and uh apparently that's a thing with like a lot of the younger people so i think
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they're even starting to recognize that you know already i haven't heard of that which is cool
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so we'll end with this and i want to hear from both of you guys we talked earlier about
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what it would look like if we could stick you know the image of someone's highest potential
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in their brain and let them experience that for let's say an hour or a day all right and
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i'm curious knowing what you know now and whichever one of you wants to go first is fine with me
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what would you say to the version of you before the way you were before and you you are you now
01:16:48.000
what would you say to that past version of you to get them to step up and step into the the true power
01:16:55.600
that they have as an individual what would you say what i think the main thing that hit me hits me is
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they're they when they're pulling a bunch of old people they're their biggest regret is always how
01:17:05.820
they the time that they didn't spend with their kids and that so that's one of the main things
01:17:09.680
that turned me around is that that's the most important thing in my life i didn't i grew up
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without that figure in my life so i know what that's like and i don't want her to have to deal
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with that and i think that maybe realizing that sooner because like i told you earlier i feel like
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i'm on like a like a time limit maybe i don't know what it is maybe she's because she's almost 18 or
01:17:30.100
if it's maybe she's gonna get married eventually or something i'm just running out of time
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hold on brother we are on a time limit that yeah we are on a time right so i'm just trying to make
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the most of it you're just aware of it now yeah and that's one thing that people once you get on
01:17:43.340
this journey you can't there's no looking back it's just a matter of you know it's you're gonna
01:17:47.560
have to understand that it's gonna suck it's gonna the price is gonna be different every single day
01:17:51.980
you just have to keep going into it and doing each thing that you need to do no matter what that costs
01:17:56.860
each day yeah and but it's i mean it's probably intimidating looking at it like that but it's
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it's gonna be something that you're gonna regret not doing sooner that's the same thing with the
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program bro i can't go ahead whenever i did those episodes every day i was talking about uh just pick
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a diet and pick a book and get started tomorrow quit waiting around till i mean after the your your
01:18:16.860
event or your holiday or all this crap that people put off doing things for to just get started like
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you said you can change yourself right now and you i mean so starting the program tomorrow would
01:18:27.020
be the best bet for anybody listening to this what about you yeah if i could go back knowing what i
01:18:34.780
know now um the first thing that comes back to me is just like go do it now because what i would
01:18:41.420
always fall into was i'm not ready and i can't tell you how many times i have passed on so many
01:18:47.900
opportunities career advancements whatever the case i'm not ready and how that just absolutely
01:18:54.220
was like like chipping away at my soul and my self-esteem and my confidence you know and the
01:19:01.100
universe just pounding on my door like carly you gotta go now like there's not as much time as you
01:19:06.860
think your kids are growing your your husband's getting older you're getting older stop warming the
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bench of your own life right and so go here's here's the pathway 75 hard live hard
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fucking go and you'll figure it out on the way in you don't need to know all the details you don't
01:19:24.780
need to know if if it's gonna work on a saturday night or a thursday when you have all just
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fucking go it's gonna figure itself out that's what i would tell myself i love that yeah i mean it's
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just the truth because the time is now yep yep well guys i appreciate you guys making the trip in and
01:19:43.260
coming on the show thank you for having this has been amazing more more than that i appreciate you
01:19:49.180
taking responsibility for your own lives and understanding that it's more important than
01:19:53.900
just you because it's not just you it's about everybody around you and everybody around them and
01:19:59.340
everybody around them and the ripple effect of the change that we need in society has to start
01:20:04.220
somewhere and believe it or not no matter how irrelevant or how small or how insignificant
01:20:10.620
you might feel now you have no understanding of the change that you are capable of creating in the
01:20:16.380
world until you start to live at the best possible you standard and you guys have decided to do that and
01:20:24.140
the impact is real and you see it in your own lives and we've heard about it for the last you know 90
01:20:29.100
minutes or so um and i'm just very appreciative of that it means a lot to me it means a lot to a lot
01:20:35.020
of people listening you know a lot of us here we're all hungry for a better world
01:20:42.700
a better existence a better culture a better society and to see people step up and take responsibility for
01:20:52.700
their own lives knowing that that's their role uh it means a lot to me personally so you know i
01:20:59.500
appreciate you guys making the trip in but uh i really appreciate that part of it thank you so much
01:21:04.620
thank you for having us this has been an absolute dream come true thank you for leading the way yes a
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hundred percent a lot of this you guys are leading the way i'm not leading the way this has gotten so
01:21:14.940
big now bro that it's you guys that are leading the way it's you guys listening that are leading the way
01:21:20.140
it's not me bro it's you guys and if you guys would think about it like that and start really
01:21:25.420
understanding that it is you it's you it's not me it's not some dude that you hear on the radio it's
01:21:33.100
not some dude with a microphone or some followers it's fucking you you are the solution you are the
01:21:39.500
reason that shit is fucked up and you are the reason that it will cease to be fucked up if you choose
01:21:45.980
to go follow through with living the highest standard the best version of you because the
01:21:51.260
potential that every single individual has listening to this is beyond your own comprehension at this
01:21:58.300
point you're never going to know what you're capable of you're never going to know what your
01:22:01.660
life is like until you go out and commit to building that and it is very very important that
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any of you struggling any of you sitting there right now saying he's not talking to me no i am
01:22:12.220
talking especially to you okay so understand your life matters your role in this world matters
01:22:21.340
and it is a personal responsibility and obligation for any of you that care about the health of this
01:22:26.780
country to go out and live the proper standard and i'm sitting in front of a bunch of individuals
01:22:32.540
here because it's not just these two it's the other people in this room that do that on a daily basis
01:22:38.460
and and that makes me incredibly hopeful for the future so don't thank me bro thank yourself because
01:22:44.940
you fucking did that and you did that and you guys out there listening you did that i didn't do
01:22:49.180
shit i get you guys sending me messages every fucking day thanks for everything you did motherfucker
01:22:54.060
i didn't do anything i said some words into this fucking microphone bro you know what i'm saying you
01:22:59.260
guys did the work and that makes you the leaders so if you can understand that you are the leaders
01:23:04.620
leaders things can really change so let's leave it at that went from sleeping on the floor now my
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jewelry box froze fuck a bowl fucker stole counted millions in the cold bad bitch booted swole got her
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on bankroll can't fold doesn't know headshot case closed