Real Coffee with Scott Adams - November 28, 2025


Episode 3030 CWSA 11⧸28⧸25


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

114.47129

Word Count

6,286

Sentence Count

2

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

Coffee with Scott Adams, the whisper version, the soft talking version, and the full asmr version. Today, Scott Adams talks about the tragic news about the National Guard shooting of two members of the elite elite National Guard, and how a self-driving car is getting closer and closer to becoming a reality.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 well did you miss me today's going to be the quiet talking version i'm going to be quiet
00:00:12.560 but extra awesome today it's going to be full asmr
00:00:19.120 let's see let me get your comments up here and then we've got a show for you so come on in there we go
00:00:37.280 well did you miss me at all
00:00:40.960 so i was in the hospital for a couple days
00:00:43.600 i'm trying to work on my respiratory situation so i'm going to be soft talking so i don't wear
00:00:53.840 myself out okay so it's a little extra asmr today it will seem like low energy but really it's
00:01:04.880 strategic you ready for this good morning everybody and welcome to the highlight of
00:01:14.720 human civilization it's called coffee with scott adams today will be the whisper version the asmr
00:01:22.960 version and if you'd like to take your experience up to levels that no one can even understand with
00:01:30.240 their tiny shiny human brains all you need for that is a copper mug or a glass of tanker chalice
00:01:38.880 stein a canteen jug or flask a vessel of any kind filled with your favorite liquid i like coffee
00:01:47.680 enjoy me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine of the day the thing that makes everything
00:01:54.000 better it's called the simultaneous sip and it happens that's right now
00:02:04.960 ah
00:02:08.080 pretty good stuff
00:02:10.880 well today is mostly about hanging out with you people i do have some things to talk about
00:02:16.480 slow news day well not as slow as usual for uh black friday which seems racist but as far as i know it's
00:02:27.440 not all right who wants to talk about the news anybody yeah let's talk about the news all right so i'll try
00:02:40.160 to give you as much energy as i can but uh i can't promise a lot today today we're just gonna enjoy the fact
00:02:49.520 that we're all here together and uh i got a lot of love yesterday and i'm happy to return it
00:02:58.400 so let me tell you i love you all my audience including the beloveds who are a little bit extra special
00:03:07.440 but you're all awesome all right well i saw a post by mario knoffel who is a great person to follow
00:03:18.960 he has lots of good lots of good stuff on tesla and apparently tesla's full full self-driving
00:03:28.800 is reached a new level of awesomeness getting closer and closer uh one interesting thing is that elon
00:03:40.160 thanked waybo for going first and you know getting approvals and probably making it easier for tesla to
00:03:49.920 get approved for its full self-driving self-driving but the uh the point that mario was making
00:04:00.880 it's kind of interesting is that once you can if you can turn your car into a self-driving car
00:04:10.640 imagine having a one hour commute that you could do whatever you wanted
00:04:16.240 you could get work done you could sip your coffee but you wouldn't have to do any effort
00:04:25.120 it just takes you to work and then takes you home
00:04:31.040 well one of the things that would do is it would make it easier to live an hour away from work
00:04:38.000 so it could have an impact on real estate prices so people who live an hour from work suddenly are
00:04:47.680 going to be like hey this is totally practical i love an hour of no kids and no responsibility hiding
00:04:58.720 away in your yourself driving car for an hour each way sounds pretty good i have to admit
00:05:05.440 um since the the day i walked down of my cubicle existence i've thought i would never go back but
00:05:16.560 when i think about uh an hour each way in a self-driving car where nobody could bother me
00:05:25.920 and i could just just hang out and do what i want well i don't know maybe i'll go back to work
00:05:33.440 maybe i'll get my cubicle job back um but let's talk about some news so you all know about the story of the
00:05:47.040 national guard uh the two national guard people who got shot um and apparently that's made it
00:05:55.120 it's possible for trump to go full reverse migration meaning that he's uh planning to halt third world
00:06:06.080 immigration from everything that's a third world now that seems like a pretty big category
00:06:13.920 and it's something that i think he's wanted to do for a while but because of the uh
00:06:20.960 and because of the tragic news about the national guard it sort of creates an opportunity where he can
00:06:31.200 surf the uh the emotional feeling of the country so these anecdotal situations you know where there's
00:06:42.720 this one thing that happens that doesn't necessarily tell you you know the big picture it's just
00:06:49.520 one story of one tragic thing but those things really move they move policy so
00:06:57.760 i don't want to say it's lucky because it's obviously more tragic than anything else
00:07:03.200 but it does give trump the uh the opening to be far more severe on his uh immigration so he literally
00:07:13.840 wants to um i guess he wants to um i guess he wants to audit all the green cards and he wants to ship
00:07:20.960 back anybody who's not here um for all the right reasons so i think there's going to be a it looks like a
00:07:31.760 massive uh increase in re-immigration or what he calls it reverse immigration or the news calls it that i
00:07:40.800 don't know i don't know who calls it that but i'm generally not in favor of using anecdotes
00:07:50.560 no matter how powerful to make policy
00:07:53.760 but in this case it's a policy that at least maybe half the country wanted so
00:08:04.560 i've got a feeling it'll be very popular with the right wing
00:08:08.320 and it will be called it will be called racist by the left wing
00:08:17.840 and that will be just completely normal
00:08:20.640 um how in the world could we ever vet all the uh the immigrants
00:08:32.400 and keep out the terrorists how could you even do that it's completely undoable
00:08:40.560 so i think the options are either we put up with this continuous threat
00:08:47.840 or we close down immigration completely there's only two choices because the the choice of vetting
00:08:57.120 people really well that doesn't even seem like it could work right so this we i think we've had
00:09:06.640 this uh fantasy that we can vet people that we would know who's dangerous and who isn't
00:09:14.240 we can't really do that not possible so could be that this is uh going to be looking at a big change
00:09:24.960 we'll see you know i wonder how many of our policies are based on the fear did you ever think about that
00:09:34.320 this would be another one where if there's a big change in policy because of it it would be because of
00:09:41.360 fear and i don't know if fear is the best way you know to make new policies but i think we're going to
00:09:50.000 find out trump also says he uh that we're going to begin stopping venezuelan drug traffickers by land
00:10:01.120 where exactly would we stop venezuelans by land
00:10:05.600 do you understand do you understand that i think he means direct military action uh within venezuela
00:10:17.280 since we don't have a you know if we were going to stop it by land it would already be stopped
00:10:24.640 in other words if they i don't try to get across the mexican border
00:10:28.320 the venezuelans would probably you know we've already stopped them excuse me while i take a sip
00:10:37.280 from my awesome water thermos bottle that will make you wish you had one
00:10:43.600 so if you're just joining i'm using my npr asmr voice to conserve my energy so i can go as long as
00:11:04.400 possible probably won't go more than 20 minutes but we'll see all right so
00:11:15.440 it looks like we're uh we're at least teasing going to venezuelan but here's the real question
00:11:24.000 i'm going to get into some conspiracy theory stuff
00:11:26.560 it sounds better when you talk like this conspiracy theories is it really about the drugs
00:11:37.440 maybe some people say fentanyl is not a venezuela problem so there must be some other reason trump
00:11:47.120 wants to go into venezuela is it because venezuela has some implication in our election
00:11:56.560 systems i'm going to talk about that separately is it because what we really want is regime change
00:12:07.280 so do you think the do you think the war on venezuelan drugs is about voting machines
00:12:15.280 is it really about drugs or is it really about regime change
00:12:21.200 or is it some combination of all three or two and how would we ever know now um today this morning
00:12:36.240 since it was slow news i had some gaps in my understanding of some recent stories
00:12:42.320 and so i used grok to fill me in and it ruined all my fun has anybody tried that yet have you tried
00:12:54.240 using grok on stories within your own bubble you will be very disappointed if you do not not disappointed
00:13:04.800 in grok necessarily but you'll be disappointed in
00:13:10.400 how many things you believe that are pure bullshit
00:13:15.360 so my experience this morning was all right grok does this look reasonable nope
00:13:24.560 how about this does this look reasonable nope so it turns out that there were several things
00:13:32.720 things that i thought were at least possible in my bubble that grok says are bullshit now that doesn't mean
00:13:43.200 that grok is right right grok is you know intended to achieve maximum truth but it's not done yet
00:13:54.720 you know grok is still a work in progress so it's possible that grok is the one that's wrong
00:14:02.160 but it's pretty convincing so the first thing i used grok to help me on was the emerald robinson
00:14:11.760 uh long thread in which she she weaves together a very very convincing story that our elections have been
00:14:23.280 fake basically for years as well as the elections in other countries and that there's a very specific
00:14:33.280 um set of allegations of why that is but um so i ran that against grok
00:14:42.560 and i said you know basically summarize it and then tell me how reasonable it is what do you think grok said
00:14:51.520 grok wasn't buying any of it so um so emerald robinson's uh i guess or a thread you'd call it
00:15:04.560 is that and i'll just throw out some of the main points so one of the points is that
00:15:12.640 the the chips in election machines are made in china do you believe that's true and that they have
00:15:23.920 um you know malicious basically that the chips are malicious but that they were laundered through taiwan
00:15:34.080 so it would look like the chips came from taiwan but they really were made in china
00:15:38.880 so i'm not sure that's proven then there was the allegation that one of the main
00:15:48.560 election machines had as its ceo a george soros
00:15:57.280 um ally so there's a soros connection
00:16:00.800 allegation alleged and there's a chinese chip um part but there's also a venezuelan
00:16:12.000 software allegation and there's something about serbian servers and the cia so the idea would be
00:16:23.760 and here's the part i was trying to understand how in the world could all of those entities be working
00:16:33.520 together how could soros be working with china who is also working with some serbians who is also being
00:16:45.600 i don't know managed maybe by the cia does it seem like they would all be on the same team
00:16:53.600 and uh grok's explanation is that the cia no this would not be um this is grok's explanation
00:17:06.000 of i think the emerald robinson hypothesis
00:17:11.200 so it's not grok's opinion it's description of someone else's opinion but the idea would be
00:17:18.000 that the cia is allowing with full knowledge china to manipulate our elections
00:17:27.920 and soros to manipulate them and some serbians and maybe some venezuelan software
00:17:35.200 and that the reason that the cia would allow all that is that somehow that would preserve
00:17:44.560 the deep state as it is now do you think chinese microchips if such a thing were real do you think that
00:17:56.080 all those entities would be working toward the same end and that the cia would be completely aware of it
00:18:05.200 and allow it to happen and then separately why didn't it work in 2024 if our elections are completely compromised
00:18:18.640 why in the world didn't it work in 2024 and the explanation given is that the good work of the
00:18:28.320 people trying to uncover this vast conspiracy were so good at what they did that it increased the uh
00:18:38.480 let's say the potential for audits and the oversight and that in some cases they got rid of election
00:18:47.040 machines um i don't know how many places but so the theory is that they've you know that for
00:18:56.080 maybe decades the entire system has been rigged that hundreds of people are aware of it and part of it
00:19:06.960 but yet somehow the we only hear about it from a few whistleblowers even though decades and hundreds of
00:19:16.240 people have been involved that's that's a that's a stretch but we have seen we have seen real world
00:19:23.920 situations where hundreds of people have been involved and it was actually was a conspiracy
00:19:31.920 you know if you're talking about covet for example that was an example of a lot of people being involved
00:19:39.520 who could have been whistleblowers but weren't so we we do have i think some precedent
00:19:46.080 of lots of people being involved of lots of people being involved and nobody talking because they'd be
00:19:52.080 afraid of being executed presumably by the cia so how much of that sounds
00:20:02.160 real to you do you believe that all of those entities let's see i'll give you the entities again
00:20:08.240 which ones uh it would have been um the soros organization venezuela some serbian hackers
00:20:20.880 the chinese making microchips and the cia do you believe that they were all coordinating
00:20:29.120 that's kind of a it's kind of a stretch
00:20:32.160 i'm just looking at your comments so um a grok spot well let me let me tell you what else
00:20:42.320 we'll just give you as much as i have um
00:20:47.520 first of all the the story is kind of yes confused openly exactly it's a it's a bit confusing story
00:20:54.160 so that's your first hint that maybe there's something wrong meaning there's a lot of parts to it
00:21:04.560 and if there's one thing i've taught you and only one thing it's that things which are not true
00:21:13.840 can often have a lot of circumstantial evidence that they are so it's not unusual
00:21:21.840 for something not to be true but really really looking like it is
00:21:27.120 for 20 different reasons that's that just doesn't mean it's true so let's see what else
00:21:36.400 i i also look to mike benz to tell me if this all tracks and i i think mike i don't want to
00:21:46.080 i hate to mischaracterize him but i think he would be on the side of um not complete not completely
00:21:56.320 embracing the emerald robinson version of events um i didn't see him debunk it but nor did i see him
00:22:08.080 him fully embracing it if he had that would have added a lot to the credibility because he knows
00:22:17.760 you know he knows the context of things in ways we don't anyway so part of the uh part of the theory
00:22:28.960 is is is that the reason
00:22:34.880 no not not s-i-r-i theory t-h-e-o-r-y
00:22:40.880 i've got to talk to my phone for a minute my phone thought i was talking to it
00:22:48.960 phone quiet down all right so part of the theory is that the reason that um the bad people got away
00:22:59.040 with it is that they they learned to shave votes only from the deep red pro-trump um districts
00:23:10.880 and the idea is
00:23:15.520 that nobody would suspect if they did all the cheating in the red areas
00:23:21.200 because the red areas are republican controlled and you wouldn't expect
00:23:25.760 those to be the places that would be cheating against trump and the theory is that if it's a
00:23:35.040 trump 70 percent area that if they just shave it back to say 68 percent nobody would notice
00:23:44.080 because it would still be a landslide for trump in a trump area so that would look legit it would just
00:23:50.320 look i was off by two percent from what we expected but you know you can't you can't expect that accurately
00:24:01.840 so that makes sense uh i don't think there's proof of that but it makes sense in the how would you cheat
00:24:10.000 if you did cheat how would you do it so it makes sense that way but i don't think that's
00:24:15.440 uh i don't think there's evidence of that uh let's see what else
00:24:25.680 i've been saying for a while that the best evidence that the electronic voting machines are not legit
00:24:34.480 without stating who might be behind you know any uh any bad behavior is that they they're not cheaper
00:24:43.200 they're not easier and they're not more secure than the alternative which is paper ballots so why do they even exist
00:24:56.320 i'm leaning toward the idea that they do exist for the purpose of rigging elections in other countries
00:25:05.440 but that would still raise the question who's doing the rigging is it possible that the cia was working with maduro
00:25:18.720 and china i don't know how all that makes sense anyway so let's see what else crock said about it
00:25:27.840 um
00:25:34.320 yeah so the the theory that the cia allegedly allowed china to insert spyware because they were okay with it
00:25:46.880 does that really track
00:25:50.240 does it make sense to you that
00:25:51.600 um there would be at least i know two or three entities that all had some access to be able to rig
00:25:59.680 the rig the vote i don't know so i'm going to say this about that um first of all grok
00:26:09.920 is really a spoiler this won't be the first thing i tell you that um that it kind of debunked
00:26:17.920 now debunk is a strong word and it does not mean disproven so just get that part straight uh grok did not
00:26:31.520 disprove the theory is simply did not find it compelling i guess but is that is that evidence
00:26:42.160 is anybody convinced by grok's opinion well one of the things that grok did was it mocked me
00:26:55.040 and actually it used me as an example
00:27:00.800 in his response it sounded it said it sounded more like a like a scott adams conspiracy theory
00:27:08.000 and i said why did you bring me into it and that was the funny part grok knows who i am
00:27:19.360 um it knows who i am but it also used me as an example to make his point
00:27:29.680 anyway i got a little personal there all right so i also tested grok
00:27:36.560 against the mike ben's um hypothesis i'll call it that that uh it's not a coincidence that uh
00:27:48.160 there are these big immigration waves in to america um that follow some kind of cia
00:27:56.720 um color revolution in another country so i think he had some i don't know maybe there were like eight
00:28:05.280 different examples of countries where we were actively meaning the cia was actively trying to
00:28:14.880 do regime change and caused instability in the the target country be it syria or afghanistan
00:28:23.520 afghanistan and then once that um once that uh let's say um disruption of their society happened
00:28:36.880 and it triggered a bunch of uh immigration uh or migration out of the target country
00:28:44.880 that uh there was a secondary benefit that the deep state or the cia or somebody knew would happen and
00:28:54.400 what they would do is they would uh aim the aim the refugees for areas where the extra population
00:29:03.520 could be used to change the vote so and uh it might give a bunch of examples
00:29:13.840 that uh you would have to believe that they were all a coincidence for that uh for for there to be any
00:29:21.440 other reason in other words it does look intentional but only by the fact that there are too many coincidences
00:29:30.480 but grok i thought was going to buy into this a little bit more than it did grok said that
00:29:39.920 there's no evidence of intent so it didn't doubt mike benz's facts it only said there's a part missing
00:29:51.360 which is some evidence that anybody intended for this to happen
00:29:56.640 um we can observe that it does happen we can observe that um something like color revolutions that we're
00:30:07.040 pushing in other places does create mass migration and we can observe that it changes the
00:30:16.080 the political you know dynamic in certain places but um the part that's missing
00:30:23.360 is uh some kind of a more direct smoking gun i guess that it's all intentional at least at least the
00:30:34.080 intentional part is that it's uh partly to you know change the uh the voting balance in the united states
00:30:43.840 so that ruined uh some of my fun there um as far as i can tell mike is undefeated in terms of
00:30:53.760 showing his receipts but uh sometimes you have to make a little bit of a a leap and say well this
00:31:03.200 doesn't look like a coincidence or or if it is a coincidence that's sure a weird one so i would say
00:31:10.480 that um so grok was not grok was not uh not at all convinced
00:31:18.560 now again i remind you that doesn't mean grok is right that was just sort of grok steak
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00:31:43.040 then i uh this this one will kill you you ready for another one i don't want to ruin all of your
00:31:54.160 your fun with the conspiracy theories because they are fun and i i get drawn into them as much as
00:32:01.200 anybody else all right so i saw a post by eric doherty that summarized what a number of other
00:32:09.680 people have said about the seditious sex you know the seditious sex that would be the six uh democrats
00:32:18.560 who uh did the video that suggested that uh people in the military should not follow orders that are illegal
00:32:30.240 now as eric uh points out and i and this would be the uh i think eric's take would be what i'd call the uh
00:32:39.760 uh the republican bubble doesn't mean it's wrong doesn't mean it's right it's just what the republicans
00:32:49.520 are seeing on social media but you know maybe the democrats don't even see it i don't even know if
00:32:55.360 they see it but it goes like this there's an alleged and everything i say about this will be alleged
00:33:02.960 uh an alleged non-profit linked to george soros that is fomenting sedition within the military
00:33:12.800 so the the thinking is that the video we saw was um inspired by or even the script was written by
00:33:24.240 some third-party external um bad player and that that bad player
00:33:31.440 might be linked to maybe george soros but also let's see there's some group called
00:33:42.720 win without war that put up a billboard just one billboard in north carolina
00:33:50.560 and that was similar in tone to the seditious seditious sex
00:33:57.120 um so that would suggest there's some external maybe larger you know larger play bigger than just
00:34:07.040 some democrats wanting to do a thing there's some link to antifa allegedly
00:34:13.600 um and then as eric doherty is reporting that on november 11th just days before the video
00:34:22.080 the national lawyers guild uh published a page urging service members to refuse illegal orders
00:34:32.080 and it would be the basically the same talking points as in the video so and then win without war
00:34:39.520 that entity let's see if i got the right entities so there's a national lawyers guild but there's also the
00:34:48.560 the win without war non-profit i think um who are backed by the soros open society
00:35:00.400 and the group had some previous name all right so and then oh here it is so the win without war
00:35:06.960 is partnered with the national lawyers guild is this all too confusing
00:35:11.280 so that the the the short version is that um the belief is that the six democrats were not
00:35:23.680 doing this on their own that there was some external guiding force still unidentified
00:35:31.280 that uh allegedly had some connection with soros um i guess the national lawyers guild
00:35:41.760 supports antifa and then um here's the key part there's something that senator ruben gallego said
00:35:52.080 um on video recently in some interview i guess and uh allegedly he admitted that there was a external
00:36:02.960 script that the script for the video you know he had seen it and it came from some external source
00:36:11.280 but grok says that's fake news grok says there is no such thing as ruben gallego admitting there was a
00:36:22.480 third-party script that just didn't happen and that it was a misinterpretation of something he did say
00:36:30.800 but there's no evidence that he said it came from an external source
00:36:34.720 now um i don't doubt that there's more than one entity that's putting out the same message but then i asked grok
00:36:47.120 so why would these six people put out this video if not to you know try to create some kind of a
00:36:55.760 insurrection or uh cause chaos or i don't take over the government or something else
00:37:04.160 and here's what grok said and grok said it's most likely that the that the democrats are legitimately
00:37:13.600 afraid of trump trying to go full dictator and issuing illegal orders
00:37:21.920 uh and so grok believes that these seditious sex were actually patriots
00:37:29.840 who are legitimately concerned that trump is at least teasing or moving toward
00:37:39.920 some more authoritarian situation and that they would like to reduce the chances that he could
00:37:48.160 succeed at that and so they're warning the troops hey watch out you know he might actually try something
00:37:54.800 that's legitimately illegal and you're gonna have to step up
00:38:02.720 now what do you think do you think it's more likely that some external entity was behind it all
00:38:11.920 and who would that be or do you think that every democrat is afraid
00:38:17.520 literally every democrat is afraid that trump might exceed his uh legal domain and try to get the military to
00:38:29.520 do something illegal um and it might be illegal in terms of war might be illegal in terms of um immigration
00:38:41.600 um could be illegal um could be illegal in terms of anything i guess
00:38:49.680 so what what sounds more likely to you that the democrats are legitimately afraid
00:38:59.200 and some of them said hey let's do something about it you know to inoculate so the the word that
00:39:05.680 that uh grok used was inoculate so the idea was to simply get the military thinking about how they would handle
00:39:19.840 a situation that looked you know unambiguously illegal to them
00:39:26.240 i would say at this point um the third party connection is unproven
00:39:32.640 i don't think you need a third party if every democrat is really thinking the same thing
00:39:41.120 and you know trump keeps teasing about a third term and if you're a democrat you're gonna take that
00:39:48.240 seriously you know i i think republicans laugh at the third term thing because it looks like
00:39:55.440 you know trump's just playing with them but they're the ones being played with
00:39:59.680 so they might be thinking they might be thinking it's real i'm gonna say on this one um the only thing i
00:40:11.360 think is proven is that there's more than one democrat who thinks trump might be breaking the law sometime soon
00:40:21.920 so if there is a connection to some shadowy external source um i don't think that's quite proven yet
00:40:32.800 could be though could be all right um next story
00:40:39.840 uh i saw in the independent hannah ariva oba ahiroba is writing that uh russian drones
00:40:52.560 are targeting uh civilians and turning one ukrainian city into what they call the human safari
00:40:59.680 so apparently kursan allegedly has uh you know i think hundreds of uh russian drones a day
00:41:10.960 are hunting for civilians that just happen to go outdoors does that sound real to you keep in mind
00:41:19.680 that all reports from a war zone are a little you know a little sketchy do you believe that one
00:41:26.080 do you believe that in kursan there are i don't know hundreds of attacks on uh on uh civilians
00:41:36.560 and if and if they are let's say it was true why would russia do that why would it why would it use drones
00:41:47.840 to attack civilians i will sip from my awesome thing while you think about that
00:42:01.200 would they be doing it if it if it's happening at all uh are they trying to depopulate the city
00:42:08.160 are they trying to get people to move so for what so it'd be easier to take over the city
00:42:18.080 um one theory is that they were just practicing and that they just use it for target practice
00:42:25.680 to train the drone operators do you think they're doing it for target practice
00:42:30.640 just to train the drone people now that doesn't seem like a good use of training
00:42:38.560 um are they trying to demoralize the city is it revenge some people say it's revenge for
00:42:47.200 something the ukrainians did that doesn't make sense um or is it propaganda and it's not actually
00:42:55.200 happening or is it happening but not at the level that's being reported i would say i'm not quite
00:43:04.480 willing to believe that uh it's even happening um i would say it's it's too yeah it's too fog of war
00:43:14.880 it's too much exactly like exactly like something somebody would lie about in a war oh you're monsters
00:43:24.720 you're killing our civilians we would never do that so i'm going to say i don't believe that story
00:43:33.280 um then i tried to use grok to understand how likely is it that ukraine and russia would
00:43:43.520 find a find an acceptable peace and i think the answer is there's not really any way
00:43:50.480 i don't think there is a way um so i i started with some um context you know i've been hearing
00:44:00.560 forever that uh ukraine could have made peace back in 2022 um and i guess the offer was on the table
00:44:12.080 that uh russia would keep crimea and the donbass that has a bunch of russian national a bunch of russian
00:44:22.640 ethnic people would have some kind of special rule and that ukraine would
00:44:29.120 um agree to never join nato and the theory is that russia would have taken that offer
00:44:40.480 um but uh it looked like zelensky may have been the one who who let's see let's see if i have this right
00:44:49.200 oh so so it looks like it looked like there was a way to make peace
00:45:00.480 but probably that's an exaggeration i suspect they were not ever close to peace
00:45:07.200 but it might be true that if they the only way they could make peace is something that looked like
00:45:14.240 giving up a lot um so you see how hard it is to for me to even explain this i'm doing a terrible job
00:45:23.200 so so according to grok i'll just tell you what grok says grok said that in 2022
00:45:32.000 um ukraine floated some concessions to maybe wrap things up without war and he signaled openness to
00:45:42.800 neutrality not joining nato uh zelensky did and autonomy or special status for the donbass and but i think
00:45:56.240 um but putin pushed again this is grok putin pushed for total demilitarization a handover of crimea
00:46:08.400 and more so it tanked so according to grok there was never anything that both sides agreed on
00:46:17.840 was it ever was it ever something that could have not happened so and then there's grok also
00:46:34.000 says that the egos of the two leaders is in play you know that neither of them can lose
00:46:40.720 so that's part of the that's part of it so here's what i think
00:46:45.280 i don't think there was ever a chance it wasn't going to go to war because they were never that
00:46:52.000 close they say they were but i think that's just propaganda
00:47:00.880 and both think the other is the reason that it went further so
00:47:05.760 um here's why i think it's impossible for them to get any kind of peace
00:47:16.240 because if zelensky makes peace by giving up land he will lose his job and probably be killed
00:47:25.760 if putin decided to go easy on um ukraine that wouldn't make sense because he seems to be in a
00:47:35.520 sort of a winning position in the long run so you've got two leaders who
00:47:43.680 neither of them have much incentive to settle it
00:47:48.400 but they have an incentive to keep doing what they're doing
00:47:52.720 at the very least you need one of the sides to think it was a bad idea to be at war and i don't
00:47:58.400 think we have that greetings from moscow somebody in the comments is in moscow so i would say that i
00:48:08.080 don't believe the story uh that there was a point in the past where they could have made peace
00:48:17.760 i think that was always maybe exaggerated and probably this was always going to happen
00:48:23.680 just because of the interests of the two leaders
00:48:29.520 and it's more about the leaders of the countries
00:48:34.640 what do you think
00:48:35.280 i'm looking at the comments do you think do you think there's any chance
00:48:41.840 that they could have settled this thing earlier like 2022
00:48:46.880 yeah i'm really feeling like no
00:48:54.560 and then on top of that you have all the smart people saying that even if
00:49:00.480 um putin agreed you couldn't trust him so you know there's not enough
00:49:10.480 there's not enough to make a deal but even if he made a deal it wouldn't be worth anything
00:49:15.440 because i can't see i can't see putin giving up on at least controlling ukraine as a proxy
00:49:28.000 so
00:49:30.320 cruise again
00:49:33.520 what did i prove again so i guess i don't believe anything about
00:49:37.440 um that they could have had peace before i just i just don't think it was possible
00:49:46.480 and it isn't possible now either so i would say at minimum
00:49:53.680 i'm going to re-up my prediction i think there's going to be at least another year of war
00:50:00.720 war and it'll be perpetual war unless something changes and i think uh
00:50:09.840 i think time is on russia's side right now
00:50:16.080 yeah it looks like they're in a winning position so they'd they would have no reason to negotiate
00:50:24.240 i mean it certainly doesn't look like it doesn't look like putin wants peace does it
00:50:31.120 i don't think he cares at all
00:50:35.120 i mean he would want peace if he also got as much of ukraine as he wanted
00:50:41.360 but uh doesn't look like that's an option
00:50:47.040 ukraine is not a country anymore huh well there's still something left
00:50:54.560 you know kiev is still unoccupied
00:50:57.280 all right that's all i have for today if you're joining late
00:51:06.720 my whispering is because trying to save energy
00:51:10.560 and uh
00:51:14.960 i thought i'd try my asmr fm radio voice
00:51:20.880 and it worked so i got through
00:51:24.960 most of the show
00:51:25.760 now there's there's not much going on and i think i i think i did a terrible job today
00:51:36.160 if i were to uh judge my own uh analysis pretty bad
00:51:41.440 uh because these stories are all complicated but i recommend the following if you
00:51:50.880 if you see one of these complicated conspiracy theory stories no matter where it comes from
00:51:57.840 and no matter how credible it sounds you really owe it to yourself to
00:52:04.560 spend a few minutes with a grok
00:52:07.120 and say all right here's the claim
00:52:10.160 is that is that legitimate
00:52:13.280 i think what you're going to find
00:52:15.600 is that nine out of ten times grok is going to say no that is not
00:52:19.840 legitimate
00:52:22.800 and then you'll say damn it i'm in a bubble
00:52:27.120 because we all are in bubbles
00:52:30.400 now you may have also seen news nation
00:52:33.840 did a story about uh dr sun shun
00:52:37.120 and his uh cancer treatments
00:52:41.120 and trying to get the fda to
00:52:43.200 uh approve it and uh who was it uh is it redfield
00:52:51.840 somebody who was ex-fda was saying that uh the the practice of waiting for a
00:53:00.160 um a
00:53:03.440 uh a serious trial of every of every medicine is
00:53:08.480 is not always appropriate and i think the claim was if you if you observe
00:53:17.120 somebody doing a treatment that cures them or puts them in remission
00:53:23.920 and there was nothing else that worked that's not nothing you know it's not a randomized controlled
00:53:30.560 trial but can you ignore that suppose suppose dozens of people
00:53:38.480 are cured of incurable cancer
00:53:44.880 would you not allow the next person to try it
00:53:49.840 so i think that's the question we're down to
00:53:53.520 so i'm on that path
00:53:56.160 so if i get if i get remission that'll mean something
00:54:02.080 i'll let you know i've got one more dose
00:54:04.960 all right people
00:54:12.400 i'm running out of energy
00:54:18.640 so thanks for joining and i'll say bye for now i i don't have enough energy to
00:54:26.880 um stay for the uh after show for my beloveds but i'll try to get more energy in the future
00:54:35.280 bye for now
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