00:26:43.380So for the people that say, like, never underestimate Trump, you know, 4D chess, how do you feel about that?
00:26:52.140Well, I mean, I do trust Trump and I think he's the best person to make these kinds of deals of any president we've had in recent history.
00:26:59.760But at the same time, I think this is just a really difficult situation.
00:27:04.340It's not like Venezuela where you can just go in and do whatever you want.
00:27:08.500It's not even probably as simple as Israel and Gaza.
00:27:11.360I think this is a very difficult situation. And I think it's the reason why most other presidents
00:27:16.160have shied away from really doing anything. And it probably was also why when we originally took
00:27:21.820action, it was just to drop some bombs and take out a nuclear facility as opposed to trying to
00:27:26.060do this sustained war sort of thing. I think it's a very difficult geography to deal with
00:27:31.040in terms of doing any kind of ground invasion or holding any kind of territory. And when you can't
00:27:37.440do that or it's very difficult to do that then you're you're stuck with just what bombs can we
00:27:41.900drop and what damage can we do but then you can't sustain it you can't hold it you can't really
00:27:46.980take over or do anything like what we did in Iraq where it was relatively easy but I think that's
00:27:52.820because the geography was so different and the military wasn't as strong as it is in Iran but
00:27:57.460I just think it is a difficult situation it would have been a difficult situation no matter who
00:28:02.620was trying to do it. And we can all debate whether or not we should have ever done it to begin with,
00:28:08.020but we're here. We're doing it now. So I think it is important to finish the job in terms of
00:28:14.100making sure there isn't going to be a nuclear weapon anytime soon. So I get that, but I also
00:28:18.580really would love it to be over. So I think it'll get there soon. Yeah. So Jeff, I don't know,
00:28:25.900you know, and I'm not trying to put you on the spot because you might not know this either,
00:28:28.880But I mean, I heard that we're just about out of missiles and this and that, like we have really depleted what we have.
00:28:38.460And, you know, and then Trump's like, you know, we're really going to get them this time.
00:28:42.540And we're you know, we're going to really unleash on them.
00:28:44.660Like, so what kind of bombs do we have left?
00:28:47.600I'm thinking I know of one massive one.
00:28:50.060I can't imagine the one you don't want to use.
00:28:53.180Yeah. So I'm just like, you know, just what's your overall opinion on this topic?
00:28:58.880Yeah, and we need to fact check this, but I'm fairly confident that I saw Pete Hegseth quote tweet a CNN screenshot where they were referencing the stockpile amount, and he said that that was false.
00:29:13.100Um, and, and so my, my hunch is that, uh, probably any, any number that you hear of
00:29:22.340like, Oh, we're, we've depleted 60% of our thing.
00:29:25.120Like my guess is that's probably not accurate.
00:33:34.820And he's a cool guy. And unfortunately for Haley Stevens, she's got a bit of an accent and she kind of gets made fun of a lot of times online.0.98
00:33:42.140So it hasn't really done her any favors. But he seems to be the one with the energy behind him.
00:33:47.540You know, it's so interesting because you watch what's going on with the strongest voices in the Democratic Party, John.
00:33:56.380You watch what's going on with the strongest voices of the Democratic Party, Marcella.
00:34:00.540So I guess the strongest voices now are the AOCs and then the old establishment people don't even they don't even know what they stand for anymore because they're so intimidated by the socialists that they're all pivoting to pretend now that, you know, socialism is it's fine.
00:34:18.000You know, it's not communism. But I feel like there's not enough focus on Americans from the Republican Party.
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00:47:05.440it's kind of crazy owen um you know imagine going to your grocery store in a year or two
00:47:32.180from now and that's what you're faced with what do you think can you guys not hear me no i i can
00:47:38.460hear you um it it's i think it's kind of amazing um and scary um but i i don't know i mean you know0.90
00:47:48.760i could take the other side of it and say well it's just an ethnic neighborhood you know it's1.00
00:47:53.980an extreme example like if you went to a mexican neighborhood it would be all0.92
00:47:58.000you know people you know if you went I'll film that if you went to Chinatown it would be all
00:48:03.940you know Asian people so I I do think it's you know not not necessarily as extreme or as widespread0.99
00:48:12.700as you you know as they're making it out to be but you know I do think that Dearborn is a big1.00
00:48:19.080problem and it's not really just that everybody's wearing their you know head scarf things but it's
00:48:25.040just that like they're they are very anti-america i mean i posted a story today about some video i
00:48:31.480don't know if you saw that clip but it was like they were chanting death to america like it's
00:48:36.020basically an insurrection like it that's a real insurrection like that you know you have a town
00:48:41.140in america where everybody's chanting death to america like that that to me is the problem it's
00:48:45.720not just people are wearing headscarves in a grocery store it's just but owen i i have to
00:48:51.260interrupt you because there's a difference between the people in Chinatown or Little
00:48:59.160Mexico, whatever you want to call it, their ideology, they have same types of morals and
00:49:07.380values that we do. These people, like you said, are chanting death to America. They want to kill
00:49:11.600us and they want to rid us of being here. So to say it's not as widespread, I think it's like
00:49:20.700where i was saying like you know we say it's a slow moving disaster that entire grocery store0.98
00:49:25.820in dearborn it's huge and it's now taken over by their food their writing their culture you go in0.99
00:49:33.900there no one's speaking english i mean it's a problem and it is popping up everywhere and you
00:49:40.460know i just saw somebody just posted that vero beach florida which is like just like this like0.99
00:49:46.300old white area is now going to be getting some kind of huge Islam city there. And then I was
00:49:53.080just watching last night in Mooresville, North Carolina, they had like a, I don't know what you
00:49:59.140would call the meeting, but like all of these people showed up and they were like, you cannot1.00
00:50:03.420put a giant mosque here, you know, because like what the mosques do, it's like their military0.97
00:50:09.460center, their recruiting center, they can plot and plan. They have their own like laws in there1.00
00:50:15.060and it just spreads out from there. So I just feel like it's a slippery slope. And I get nervous
00:50:21.140to downplay it because I think it's bigger than people are really realizing. I agree with you.
00:50:27.720I'm not trying to downplay the whole situation. I was just pointing out that that particular
00:50:31.880footage, my reaction to it was like that part isn't necessarily the issue. It might be an
00:50:37.780indication of the problem indirectly, just that it's so concentrated. And I do think that's part
00:50:43.460of the problem is that if you took all those same people and just spread them out all over the0.72
00:50:47.260country in little bits and pieces it probably would lead to a lot more assimilation because
00:50:52.080they would be with a lot of other people they'd meet a lot more americans they'd meet they'd see
00:50:56.660more of our culture and they might have more of a chance of doing it you know getting assimilated
00:51:01.100but i think and i do think part of the problem is that when you put them all in one place like
00:51:04.660the somali community in minnesota and dearborn michigan then they don't assimilate they just
00:51:10.020there it's like a little pocket of whatever country they came from and they never assimilate
00:51:14.680and they don't even show any interest in assimilating but they're not even around people
00:51:18.080to assimilate with so i think that is one of the mistakes that was made by whoever let all these
00:51:23.880people in is putting them all in one place and letting them basically take over a portion of
00:51:28.500the country and then have government control of those portions of the country and it is anti
00:51:34.780assimilation, essentially. So I don't know how intentional it was, but I have to imagine there0.80
00:51:39.820might have been some intention behind it. And I think it is something that we shouldn't do.
00:51:45.220So I'm not downplaying the problem. I agree with you completely on that. And I just think the real
00:51:50.380problem is you have this concentration of people that are anti-America and that don't have any
00:51:56.940exposure or even interest in assimilating into American culture or American values or our system.
00:52:01.780And yes, the birth rate between Muslims and Americans or anyone else, really, it's like staggering. So like he pointed out, you know, each woman there had like three or four kids in her cart with her. But okay, so, Jeff, your thoughts?
00:52:19.840yeah i was just trying to think of an analogy uh so say that you you are a very accommodating
00:52:26.180roommate and you you get a new roommate off of craigslist and and they come from a culture that
00:52:33.060you know is antithetical to to your culture but you're you're very you're a very nice person
00:52:37.760and uh they start throwing throwing parties at your house and forcing you to
00:52:43.880uh eat certain foods and all this kind of stuff uh the the more aggressive um and persistent
00:52:52.840roommate is always going to win versus the roommate who is very passive and accommodating
00:52:59.480um when we're talking about immigration i think of the the stories i've heard of immigration as
00:53:08.160it was in, say, the early 20th century where you would have people from Italy or France
00:53:15.340or, you know, your Europeans coming over.
00:53:19.280And in many cases, they wouldn't even allow their children to speak the old language.
00:53:25.040And they would say, well, no, you're in America now.
00:53:28.120You have to, I want you to fit in, in America.
00:53:33.120And so when there is immigration with no intention of assimilation, when there are enclaves that will no doubt eventually, as they have in, I think, Sweden, lead to police no-go zones, when you have those kind of situations pop up, either intentionally or unintentionally, something is deeply broken.0.85
00:53:55.920assimilation should be the goal and if you're importing a culture that does not want to0.91
00:54:02.220assimilate what what will happen in 10 15 20 25 years well yeah nothing nothing good if you are0.53
00:54:13.980the um sort of the host country if you will uh and so and i say all this you know kind of feeling a
00:54:23.460little bit of discomfort saying like oh people people need to assimilate or get out but that's
00:54:28.900kind of what i'm saying actually uh we have to have people assimilate to the american way of
00:54:34.560life because if you get enough people who don't then there will be no american way of life it will
00:54:40.800it will be uh you know lost in the wind of time i agree okay marcella so what i saw in the video
00:54:49.120because I did watch it, is capitalism.
00:54:52.680I saw a supermarket, them buying everything from what they want to buy.
00:55:01.060In regards to them maybe not speaking to him, it's because of the language barrier.
00:55:06.280I think he said he was going to bring an interpreter to see next time he was going to be there.
00:55:11.080I know that that infuriates Americans when they have to use translators
00:55:18.540in their own country but there's areas in LA still to this day where I go and you know they
00:55:25.500expect you to speak Spanish or you know or they expect you to speak Korean in Koreatown where I
00:55:33.420went to law school near where I went to law school and you're like I don't speak Korean yet
00:55:41.580i'm trying to learn but um you know so i've gone to supermarkets in uh orange county and the
00:55:50.060pasadena area they're all arabic um and they've treated me well you know okay problem solved
00:56:00.060they're nice well i'm just letting you know like that america is to me america because i'm an
00:56:07.580immigrant as you know i think america is different people at different times um and i think
00:56:13.740eventually they'll simulate one thing about the united states one thing about the united states
00:56:20.380um i let everybody speak you guys if you can you know let me speak um one of the things that i do
00:56:26.780admire about the united states that i did not admire about germany is that we're allowed to
00:56:33.340to segregate if we want, but we're allowed to also live wherever we want.
00:56:39.220And I think like Owen said, and I think Jeff said, it's important to see that the eventually0.63
00:56:46.240the different generations are going to eventually assimilate, yes, they're going to have their
01:00:31.360Well, obviously, we all have different opinions.
01:00:34.020Marcel, you got a lot of pushback in the chat.
01:00:37.020And that's fine. And that's okay. Like, we don't all agree on things, we see things differently. And, you know, maybe, maybe Marcella's perspective is because she is an immigrant, and maybe it's a little bit different than ours. And I do love Marcella about you that you want to see everybody as an individual. I would like to be able to do that. But sometimes I just can't. And, you know, I don't know if that's a flaw or not. It's just who I am.
01:01:03.660but i think there is a real issue there that like i i'm with marcella that i would treat any
01:01:08.760individual person as an individual but at the same time there is a lot of group stuff and
01:01:13.700collective stuff that's going on here yeah it's not just that's not the only thing happening here
01:01:17.920you have people that are treating this like a collective sort of thing where they're saying
01:01:23.480we want to have sharia law we want to have kind of an exclusive no-go zone where people can't go
01:01:29.320if they're not part of this community like that's not american values and um it isn't an individual
01:01:35.240behavior it's a it's a group behavior it's a collective behavior and it's a cultural sort of
01:01:39.880thing so i i think we can't ignore that we can't just say oh let's just pretend i'm not saying to
01:01:45.800ignore it there is laws for that in the books already if i'm trying to avoid that's the thing
01:01:52.920that America has the rules of you can't just like everybody has the laws apply the same way here
01:02:00.120in certain enclaves in Sweden laws don't exist that would apply to other Swedes you know so0.77
01:02:08.360that's the thing the law would apply to all of them if they're trying to do sharia law that's0.64
01:02:15.480not going to be allowed because that would go against the U.S. constitution and against state
01:02:21.000law wherever they are so what i'm asking for is enforcement i don't see any enforcement0.95
01:02:29.000i i don't see anything there's a lot of um abuse of women in areas in michigan under muslim
01:02:39.080garb or whatever it is they have um you know they let their these people out from prison
01:02:46.760there you know what i mean so there needs to be enforcement i agree with owen on that
01:02:51.720yeah we really do need enforcement i mean i think you know what marcella i think if i saw
01:02:57.040our laws and our constitution being like fully upheld like the judges were doing what they're
01:03:04.020supposed to do and the police could do what they were supposed to do i might feel differently
01:03:08.480but i don't see it i don't see it enough i see you know i see separate rules for so many different
01:03:14.980people. And so I don't feel good about it, but if, if everything was going according to law that we
01:03:20.620have now on the books, I'd probably feel a little better. I don't know. All right. Anyone, any last
01:03:28.140words on this? No, I think we covered it. Jeff, anything? Yeah. I just, I like, I like the
01:03:39.020discussion because it's important for us to see what other people think. And I think I can agree
01:03:46.820with Marcella that enforcement, I would like to see a lot more enforcement because as soon as you
01:03:52.740start to have different standards for different people, well, that's going to be a problem.0.72
01:04:00.160Yeah. And by the way, and that goes both ways. So I don't want to see enforcement standards for
01:04:05.180different people. And I don't want to feel differently about people. I don't want to feel
01:04:10.520one way about this person versus that person, but sometimes I feel backed into a corner and
01:04:16.780that's just how I feel. I can't help how I feel. I don't want to have to be that way,
01:04:22.440but based on what I see and how I interpret it, that's my reaction. So I think that the four of
01:04:29.720us here are a good representation of all sorts of different opinions. We come from different
01:04:34.880backgrounds. We live in different parts of the country and you know, it's, um, it's interesting.
01:04:41.560It's just interesting. Um, but I love every one of you equally. Um, all right. So thank you so much
01:04:48.160for the great conversation today, you guys, and the home team returns tomorrow. And Marcella,
01:04:55.840we hope that you kicked butt yesterday in court when you left. So I'm sure you did. Um, all right,0.96
01:05:01.580you guys. Can we all have a closing smile? And then we will say thank you to Scott and Shelly
01:05:08.620for always allowing the show to continue. We appreciate so much being able to show up here
01:05:14.120and have fun discussions, silly discussions. We started off with giant zucchinis and cucumbers
01:05:19.760and ended with a nice spicy conversation. All right, you guys. So thank you to Scott and Shelly.
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