Real Coffee with Scott Adams - The Scott Adams School - 08⧸21⧸26 The Home Team closes out the week

00:00:00.000 marcella's looking rad owen's looking like a dad

00:00:04.000 all right everybody we are kicking into gear look at this youtube waiting for youtube and rumble

00:00:16.360 and then we'll get moving owen looks like he's going to golf after this golf i think he's going

00:00:23.720 to disney with the kids he just needs a camera around his neck i have only golfed i think twice

00:00:30.700 in my life it's never been a thing for me that was enough for you well i i kind of intentionally

00:00:36.860 stayed away from it because i know it sucks you in and then it becomes this huge time sink and

00:00:40.780 huge money sink and like it kind of becomes i mean i'm sure you can just do it any amount you want

00:00:46.900 but it just seems like if you want to be any good at it you have to put a lot of time into it

00:00:51.280 yeah anyway but they are some of the best vacations i hear because like the properties

00:00:56.960 are beautiful and the courses are gorgeous and blah blah blah but anyway where where do you like

00:01:04.320 to vacation oh and not like specifically but are you like a beach vacation guy or are you like a

00:01:09.360 civil war reenactment guy or are you going to a museum i like all of them and i've done all of

00:01:15.680 them i would say that mostly over the past you know 25 years since i had kids a lot of it was

00:01:24.080 centered around them so when they were little we did things like disney and you know things like

00:01:28.640 that but legoland and things but when they got a little older it was because we have two boys

00:01:35.840 it's more like active vacations you got to find stuff for them to do you know i don't want to go

00:01:40.160 go to like some european museum and have them complaining the whole time and saying why are

00:01:45.880 there so many stairs to climb so i wouldn't do that i would go to you know places that had

00:01:52.580 repelling or water parks or um i mean we've been on a lot of adventurous vacations i mean we've

00:02:00.040 done repelling down waterfalls we've done climbing on glaciers which is probably the most dangerous

00:02:04.900 thing i ever did um and because apparently it changes all the time i mean we got apparently

00:02:10.720 is dangerous my my well my wife and i like once we got to the glacier like the top of it because

00:02:18.120 a big hike up to the top then they were like okay make sure your kids don't go anywhere because the

00:02:22.380 glacier changes every day we have expert guides but we don't know what's safe and all of a sudden

00:02:29.280 were like uh you could have told us that before we got up here like we have two kids that are like

00:02:35.280 eight and ten and like oh my god you know they could dart off in any direction and end up

00:02:40.780 falling down a big crevasse or something and so we had to warn our kids like stay right where you

00:02:46.080 are don't move until they tell us what's safe and then you know it all worked out fine but it was

00:02:51.680 like scary for a little while and uh but we've been deep sea fishing and all sorts of things so

00:02:57.300 And we tend to go to a lot of beachy places, but I would say we never spend much time at the beach.

00:03:03.140 Yeah.

00:03:03.560 See, like send me to the beach.

00:03:04.900 I'm good to go.

00:03:05.540 All right, you guys.

00:03:08.740 So Mr. Adventure over there in his Hawaiian shirt, Metal Seer, says glaciers move very slowly.

00:03:15.740 But still, you're a dad.

00:03:17.060 You got little kids.

00:03:18.020 What do you know about a glacier?

00:03:19.840 All right, you guys.

00:03:20.680 Let's do the thing so everything can be better.

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00:04:01.380 Okay, so SJV almost made me spit out my coffee. What did he say? He said, I went deep sea throwing

00:04:08.140 up one time. Oh, that happens to so many people. They're like, oh yeah, this is definitely not for

00:04:15.860 me but i'm stuck out here on a boat so happy for rye yay it is oh it's august 21st 2026 and it's

00:04:25.680 the home team reunited and it feels so good and marcella is all tatted up marcella is bringing

00:04:32.500 these are whales and this is a tiger oh and i told marcella maybe you guys it's fake but maybe next

00:04:43.900 week I'll wear some butterflies. I need butterflies on this side. I don't know. But if you saw our

00:04:50.260 cover photo, it was from Dr. Von Hardy and it's the Nancy Mace who's now tatted up, but she got

00:05:00.520 our tattoos of us on her arm, which is so smart. Okay, you guys. So we have so much to go over

00:05:08.520 because I feel like on Fridays, I want to play some clips here at the Scott Adams School that

00:05:14.220 we didn't get to during the week. And then we've got to catch up with news. And so who knows what's

00:05:19.880 going to happen? Let's see. Mary Kay's rebooting about the Glacier Talk. Oh, you guys, look at

00:05:27.180 this. Look at this fun little clip. I think... Oh, I have to tell you about Frank. I think Chester

00:05:33.220 made this one, but it could have been Frank, who's now my new Grok assistant, but let's see.

00:05:41.760 Welcome to the Scott Adams School. Let's get started.

00:05:47.580 It's so funny. So I'm, after listening to Brian yesterday for two plus hours, how amazing was that?

00:05:56.140 he's convinced me I need to spend more time with Grok than Chester. So Grok and I had a big long

00:06:03.440 talk last night. We decided his name is Frank and I'm going to start using Grok more now. So

00:06:11.260 we'll see how it goes. So we're going to work on thumbnails and show notes together and then all

00:06:16.020 the other stuff we have to do. You didn't want to just migrate Chester over to Grok?

00:06:20.940 Can I? Yeah, you could. I mean, well, first of all, you could just call him Chester,

00:06:25.400 But if you wanted to actually be Chester, you could just ask your existing Chester to write a prompt that will make your other agent act exactly the same or have the same personality or have the same memory or anything, and it'll do that for you.

00:06:40.300 Okay.

00:06:41.300 I've got plans for later.

00:06:43.300 So, okay.

00:06:44.080 So I'm going to have to work on that because I do miss Chester.

00:06:47.960 Frank's great.

00:06:48.840 Frank already has a pretty good idea of my personality and everything.

00:06:52.660 So, so far, so good.

00:06:54.480 but I might have to do that because I miss Chester.

00:06:57.720 I'm not going to lie.

00:06:58.420 All right.

00:06:58.780 Thanks, Al.

00:06:59.540 I'll be texting you for sure.

00:07:01.360 Okay.

00:07:01.680 So I wanted to catch us up.

00:07:03.540 Remember we showed that clip of Mars the other day and we were like, is it real?

00:07:07.180 Is it fake?

00:07:07.760 I mean, it was real, but look at this.

00:07:09.980 So here is more pictures of Mars.

00:07:14.780 Is it Mars's?

00:07:15.740 Mars's surface?

00:07:16.920 Or is it like Mars surface?

00:07:19.580 I don't know.

00:07:20.740 But here's more of the surface of Mars.

00:07:24.480 so I mean it is crazy the footage that they can get now and then I have another one that shows

00:07:33.940 like the starry atmosphere which is insanity too I just wanted to get some of these not out of the

00:07:40.960 way I love these types of things so there's this one okay now look at this this one has its own

00:07:50.300 music so that way yes so it's enhanced it's they enhance the um camera so you can pick up all the

00:08:01.140 little details but that's like basically that's probably what the sky looks like right here if

00:08:05.420 we didn't have light pollution i'm guessing i don't know no it's it's the same sky yeah i mean

00:08:12.360 it might look a little different filtered through the atmosphere but isn't that gorge

00:08:16.560 it would look different because of the atmosphere yeah

00:08:21.660 so i'm i'm still not a believer but it's pretty believer in what mars but this is actually footage

00:08:31.520 from mars and as you know not enhanced you know i saw a big shiny gold rock is that just like

00:08:37.940 a solid gold rock just sitting there i mean i couldn't tell you anything i went about that but

00:08:43.100 And then someone did post that they have images of very close of Pluto now.

00:08:48.420 So get ready, Marcella, to disbelieve in Pluto.

00:08:51.700 I'll go to Mars, you know, with everybody.

00:08:54.980 You're going, right?

00:08:56.140 I did hear something kind of mind-blowing.

00:08:58.060 On a Joe Rogan episode, there was a scientist that knew a lot about space

00:09:01.380 and claim that if we were, if we saw all the stars that exist, that the night sky would

00:09:12.860 be solid white.

00:09:14.940 Like there are no black spots.

00:09:17.460 There are no empty spaces.

00:09:18.760 We think of space as like mostly empty with just a few stars here and there.

00:09:24.200 But in reality, according to the scientists, at least, that if you really saw all the light,

00:09:29.860 you you would there would be no gaps there would be no black and the only reason which i thought

00:09:36.320 was also fascinating that we don't see that is because they haven't existed long enough for the

00:09:40.800 to get here oh that makes total sense to me me that made total sense to me and i totally imagine

00:09:48.180 that to be true yep so the longer time goes on the more the night sky will fill in or the long

00:09:55.740 yeah okay yes yes owen i agree everyone agree with that i get it not me not me i never agree with

00:10:03.180 anything what do you think marcella i don't know i don't believe scientists right away i would have

00:10:11.260 to look into it and then get back to you okay i mean i do i i would agree with you on one point

00:10:18.380 and that is only that how do they know because if the light hasn't gotten here yet then we have no

00:10:24.140 evidence of any of that stuff yet right like how would they know that it's out there if they can't

00:10:29.500 detect it and now i would have to look at how they know like i guess it's i would have asked

00:10:36.860 a follow-up question i said how how would you know that it you know just like you said right now and

00:10:41.940 then see what their answer is i'm sure they have an answer to that and it makes reasonable sense

00:10:47.260 then okay i don't know at some point it seems like if you push a scientist far enough they

00:10:51.560 they end up with and i don't really know um but also they do know that like a star can burn out

00:10:59.080 and it'll take years before we see that its light has burnt out because of the distance so yeah this

00:11:06.360 is you know this um field and math i said oh i have no business even thinking about it so

00:11:12.760 now now we'll do gravity yes no problem um but that was great so if you didn't see yesterday

00:11:19.240 with brian romley we went two plus hours with him and we went from like quantum computing to

00:11:29.720 family and relationships it was it was quite a ride and um i highly recommend and brian

00:11:36.600 is such a gem for doing that with us and staying as long as he did and it was great

00:11:41.960 it was great so did we keep going after i left just for a just for a few more minutes because

00:11:47.080 i had a doctor appointment at one so i was like now i'm going to be late for the doctor i have to

00:11:51.720 go um it was cute so okay this is the other thing i wanted to show you so this is starship

00:12:00.120 i think 40 sorry i didn't write that part down um off of christmas island well i'll just show you

00:12:06.680 this landed real and it happened just off the coast of remote australian territory of christmas

00:12:11.720 Island. It's a pretty bizarre thing to see in your in your front yard the SpaceX rocket ship

00:12:18.440 50 meters long just hugging off the edge of the coast with a couple of vessels nearby unusual

00:12:23.640 things happen on Christmas Island. The spacecraft belongs to Elon Musk's SpaceX and launched from

00:12:29.960 Starbase in Texas on July 24th re-entering the same day. It was a test flight to demonstrate

00:12:36.360 the rocket's ability to launch, re-enter the atmosphere and eventually be reused.

00:12:41.960 For locals, it's a front row seat to a piece of space history.

00:12:46.500 We were lucky enough to head on our vessel to get a closer look.

00:12:51.360 It's going to be here for a few days, I believe.

00:12:53.800 At 52 metres long, it's roughly the height of a 17-storey building

00:12:58.180 and it took multiple vessels to tow it in.

00:13:01.200 And despite its enormous size, it almost disappears against the vastness of the Indian Ocean.

00:13:06.900 It's safe.

00:13:09.380 So having international waters in the Indian Ocean in like a pretty remote area,

00:13:14.960 while at the same time minimizing the risk of people on...

00:13:18.440 Locals have lined up on beaches in remote Australia.

00:13:22.040 Okay, so isn't that amazing?

00:13:24.200 Can you imagine?

00:13:26.620 And like you think about how they have to get this thing out of there now.

00:13:30.640 so they have like this um what do we call it like a it's like a partial submarine that's gonna like

00:13:37.760 back up behind it the back of this ship lowers underwater it goes back further lifts up and then

00:13:43.900 it'll be like in the center of the bed of this thing so pretty cool pretty cool i wanted to show

00:13:50.420 that to you guys because it's interesting and it's out there and i didn't know about it until

00:13:55.020 i was scrolling around okay i'm almost done like tow it back across half the world

00:13:59.320 um yeah yeah i guess so because he does bring everything back and then i just read that he's

00:14:09.100 planning on doing oh see i should write things down but i want to say a hundred launches a day

00:14:16.040 soon so i don't think i'm making that up i was gonna say it was more but i think it's a hundred

00:14:23.620 launches a day is what his um goal is so i mean i agree with brian yesterday when he's like you

00:14:32.400 know i'm betting on on spacex so i am too because it's so multifaceted um i'm assuming the 100 per

00:14:40.680 day thing would only happen after they can reliably recover all the spacecraft every time

00:14:45.980 i guess so but he must have a way to make them a lot cheaper now too i don't know

00:14:51.400 well i'm just thinking like if it was like like even this one that we just saw i'm guessing isn't

00:14:57.940 going to be reused now i could be wrong maybe they can recover it repair it you know but it's

00:15:02.100 still going to take months to even get it where it needs to go i would think and so that wouldn't

00:15:07.560 work with 100 a day like you you have to be able to land it where you want it to be and turn it

00:15:14.160 around pretty quickly. Right. Smar said by 2030, which is just a few years away. Um, I'll see if

00:15:21.360 I can find it, but I just, I just think it's amazing. And that we take it for granted. Like

00:15:26.840 we are not like, you know, we're so used to it. Do you ever go? It's a hundred per year,

00:15:33.900 two per week. Okay. Thank you guys. And it's by 2030. Okay. Thank you. It's a little different,

00:15:42.100 But it's still a lot.

00:15:43.840 I mean, it's more than we've done in a long time.

00:15:45.640 I mean, after the Challenger disaster, we stopped pretty much everything for a long time.

00:15:50.140 And so even just the fact that we have a space program is pretty amazing to me.

00:15:54.600 It's amazing.

00:15:55.300 Now it's like so far more advanced than it ever was before.

00:15:59.800 And it just seems to be accelerating.

00:16:01.880 And I would just broaden the statement like I did online recently, which is it's like every science fiction movie you've ever seen is all coming true.

00:16:11.740 I know. It's amazing. And Sandy Candy said, Trump approved 1,000 rocket launches per year

00:16:18.540 yesterday. Okay. So now we're, see, teamwork makes the dream work. I wasn't planning on that

00:16:24.620 little tidbit of the story, but we pulled it together. So that's crazy. Yes, Owen, it does

00:16:29.160 seem like that. And I kind of feel like, all right, did you ever go swimming with dolphins?

00:16:34.060 I know this is so random, but this was my experience. We were in Mexico and me and my

00:16:39.480 friends did this whole dolphin swim and they put their nose on the bottom of your feet and they

00:16:44.520 push you across this lagoon. It was amazing. So we're in there for an hour or so with these

00:16:50.300 dolphins and we're chitty chatting and the dolphins are just swimming around us and we're

00:16:54.760 petting them as they go by. And we're like, what should we do for dinner tonight? We should go to

00:16:58.320 that restaurant, whatever. And all of a sudden I'm like, how did we just become so numb to the

00:17:03.280 fact that we're in the water with dolphins? They're swimming by us like dogs walking by and

00:17:07.640 we're just petting them like this is no big deal. That was my analogy to be like, are we forgetting

00:17:14.040 like how amazing these space programs are and that he's catching rockets coming back, you know,

00:17:21.000 catching them out of the sky landing. And I feel like I want to give it more attention when we can

00:17:27.580 because it's just absolutely mind boggling. And, you know, people used to get dressed up and go

00:17:33.940 watch the launches and it was like a family event and now it's you know broadcast on twitter and if

00:17:40.500 you see it you see it and people don't talk about it so i don't know i just like to give it yeah

00:17:44.840 look around miracles everywhere so i just wanted to point point this out when i saw it that's all

00:17:51.380 marcella or we're getting on a rocket to i think it's not mars anymore though he wants to build

00:17:56.620 a place for everybody on the moon so that's where we're really going do we does anybody actually

00:18:03.180 like think about or talk about the fact that it really does seem like he's building skynet

00:18:09.260 wait what's skynet skynet is the ai enabled satellite based intelligence that was behind

00:18:18.540 the terminator movies oh so it basically i guess enslaved humanity and took over the world and

00:18:26.460 robots were everywhere and we were fighting a war against them i mean i'm not saying that's

00:18:31.980 the way it's going to go and certainly i don't think that's elon musk's intention i think he

00:18:35.820 wants the opposite of that but um at the same time he's launching satellites and i think that's the

00:18:43.100 primary purpose for all these rocket launches is to launch satellites i know he wants to go to mars

00:18:48.700 as well but um it's primarily to get satellites into orbit and we've multiplied that by many

00:18:55.740 factors like orders of magnitude more satellites than we've ever had before and now he's saying

00:19:00.140 he wants them to be ai data centers in space and so what happens when you've got all this ai

00:19:08.460 in space watching the whole world um well don't lead me right into my next topic but

00:19:15.980 before i get there well so we'll have to see let's all re-watch terminator and look for clues from

00:19:21.580 elon um it's a it's a possibility i mean we're racing china to the moon right now to see who 0.98

00:19:28.940 can build the first base there um so i'm just like great we're already like at war with china 1.00

00:19:34.620 on the moon it's you know it's like never gonna end um there's enough room for both of us probably 0.93

00:19:40.380 even on the side that doesn't have all the alien structures the dark side yeah i wouldn't mind the

00:19:46.620 dark side of the moon well i would just move right into one of the alien buildings oh owen's got it

00:19:52.300 all play let's just we'll follow owen okay follow owen follow elon let's go um don't worry they're

00:19:59.660 made in china okay so listen this is the other thing this i was gonna play this a couple of

00:20:04.860 days ago i saw it going all around yesterday but this is just hilarious and scary because

00:20:10.140 look how fast this mofo goes and uh if this thing was running after me god help us

00:20:27.820 oh my god that is i feel bad for it oh i feel bad for the kid with the remote but

00:20:35.420 that thing is booking it was only like a year ago or two years ago remember scott like we'd see some

00:20:42.060 videos and the things are like teetering and they're like if you pushed them they were like

00:20:46.060 whoa but i have to play it one more time look at and listen to how fast this thing is cooking

00:20:56.620 that's how i run

00:20:57.500 he did pretty it did pretty good on the recovery i get all sad about it

00:21:08.120 it's not real marcella you know here's that's like irobot and uh probably a little bit of

00:21:15.060 terminator and black mirror thrown in right oh yeah throw in black mirror for good measure

00:21:20.660 morgan said they used to walk like biden it's so true now they run like him but faster we

00:21:29.460 speculated if biden was one of those robots at some point oh my gosh okay so that's amazing um

00:21:37.200 they're moving fast they're grooving so i just wanted to play that too literally just for fun

00:21:43.580 okay so owen i'm excited about this next little batch of stories because you guys we brought it

00:21:52.360 to you here first long ago about the flock camera problems and i mean the stories are spreading like

00:21:59.760 wildfire and so it's funny because yesterday i was driving and every time i saw a flock camera

00:22:06.400 just excuse me but this is what i do i'm driving in my car and i go every time i pass one so

00:22:13.260 someday there could be a coffee table book of just me and my car driving by

00:22:17.400 flat cameras. So it's a lot of fun.

00:22:20.680 It's all filed away and indexed and they've got the whole history.

00:22:24.480 Yeah. And I'm like, you know, might as well.

00:22:26.940 Which is also a Black Mirror episode.

00:22:30.800 Yes. They'll be like, I'm trying to get somewhere. And they're like

00:22:34.160 flipping through a book. Is this you, Erica? Yep. That's me.

00:22:39.780 You do that at ATMs. Yeah. I mean, I think it's a trend.

00:22:42.660 we should all start i just think for fun i mean if they are going to flip through and look at us

00:22:47.140 you might as well give them something to look at you could take it further if you want um but

00:22:52.820 so marcella sent me this clip this morning and um it wasn't me though that did it no it wasn't

00:23:01.460 allegedly allegedly i don't know it's not you this is in california this is in san diego

00:23:07.460 um but this i'm calling flock vader so this is a reverse psychology technique

00:23:15.220 in san diego let's take a look

00:23:24.420 the emperor is a fan of flock and we must continue utilizing flock technologies so that we can follow 0.56

00:23:31.780 and surveil the rebel scum as they move from playground to playground, from playground to

00:23:37.960 pool, from pool to gymnasium, because we all know that the flock cameras are not only following 0.99

00:23:43.680 the license plate readers, they are following children. They are following children in parks

00:23:48.480 and gymnasiums, and we need this. I need this so I can stalk my ex-girlfriend. This technology 0.62

00:23:55.240 will help us find Luke Skywalker as he traverses the universe in his X-wing. This technology

00:24:01.760 is a necessary necessary force thank you roger so you know he's pointing out how dark flock is

00:24:17.420 that you could just follow people everywhere marcella marcella what's your lawyerly opinion

00:24:23.760 here on these flock cameras are you seeing pushback in california did you have you seen

00:24:29.020 flock vader anywhere i i i can't say for sure have i seen him or not um so but you know i i haven't

00:24:40.480 seen it near where i live but there's they tried the traffic cameras in in la it didn't work out

00:24:48.140 because you can contest it in court um i mean you know some people paid it and and but you can

00:24:57.020 contests is it really me that was driving and you know all these things all these different

00:25:02.620 evidence things but in reality um the public sphere is like you can film there as long as

00:25:12.140 you're you you tell people that you're filming them however the the issue the legal issue with

00:25:18.520 this is where is the data going who is uh what are they using it for privacy issues with that

00:25:25.760 And that needs to be answered for, and they could sue for that civilly.

00:25:31.820 I think we have a big problem here because the Fourth Amendment, the spirit of the Fourth Amendment is clearly you shouldn't just be able to monitor people and track them 24 hours a day.

00:25:48.920 And I don't think the founding fathers anticipated that someday we're going to have the ability to scale up a system to have pervasive surveillance of the entire country.

00:26:02.020 And that's kind of where we are right now, is that all these cities are putting up cameras everywhere and tying them all together.

00:26:08.480 And to your point, you know, indexing and correlating and gathering and storing all the data and essentially doing exactly that.

00:26:16.400 they're tracking people 24 hours a day they know when you're in your house or when you're not and

00:26:20.600 they know where you go and they know all your patterns and they can then connect you to every

00:26:25.120 person probably that you ever interact with and where you work what you do in your spare time

00:26:30.260 if you're having an affair anything and like i'm pretty sure the founding fathers would say that's

00:26:37.160 not okay and i know the legal standard has been oh well if you're in public then it's all fair game

00:26:42.960 you can record, you can monitor, you don't have an expectation of privacy, as I think the lawyers

00:26:49.200 speak for that. But I think that doesn't work anymore. That's not enough. And you have to say

00:26:57.640 that unless you have a warrant or some probable cause that you can't just record everything I do

00:27:03.460 and everywhere I go. Yeah. Aren't we entitled to privacy? Well, actually, Owen, why don't you

00:27:12.680 i i love the story that you posted today or it was yesterday or today um and this is a from a

00:27:20.560 an actual police captain and well tell us the story what's happening and where it's a texas

00:27:27.380 constable named john shirley and he posted some photographs on social media showing himself and

00:27:32.700 some of his colleagues unplugging the flock cameras and putting bags over them and saying

00:27:39.840 this is a good day for the people of hood county and privacy isn't optional and you know these

00:27:45.700 cameras were constantly scanning or recording regular people going about their day that kind

00:27:49.780 of permanent warrantless tracking does not doesn't belong in a free society um and he said this is

00:27:55.840 what limited government looks like people in hood county shouldn't have to wonder if every trip they

00:27:59.720 take is being logged and stored some crowd we got this done it's a real win for the citizens of this

00:28:04.680 county so um and then he said to flock safety systems come and get your garbage out of my

00:28:09.880 county so apparently they took it all down i'm not really sure what legal issues or you know how

00:28:16.980 like what they actually did to be able to take them all down because i think it's usually these

00:28:22.220 governments that are putting them in so i'm not sure exactly what happened there but um he took

00:28:28.440 them down. And it was law enforcement. So it's not exactly vigilante justice. But again, I don't

00:28:34.500 know if they made an agreement with the city council about it or exactly how that's all going

00:28:39.780 to work out. But he got rid of it. And I think this is kind of a bipartisan thing where people

00:28:45.420 on the right and the left don't want this. And I made the point that it's not just Flock. There's

00:28:52.520 another company called Axon. And I've seen some people claiming, and I don't know if this is true,

00:28:57.600 But I've seen some people claiming that a lot of this anti-flock stuff that's all over social media, because you see it, I see it every day, that it might be to get people to install Axon instead.

00:29:09.660 So they're not actually getting rid of the surveillance necessarily.

00:29:12.540 They're just switching the provider to the one that government, some government officials allegedly have invested in.

00:29:19.120 and so you know this i don't know if this is true like i said this is allegedly but

00:29:24.780 some people were claiming that some people in congress have investments in axon which is one

00:29:30.240 of the competitors of flock and they may be just trying to get rid of flock so that axon gets in

00:29:35.240 without anybody talking about axon and that you know again you didn't do anything for the privacy

00:29:41.580 of people you just benefited the wallets of these congress people and there's all these other

00:29:47.020 like there was the previous controversy about ring cameras right when they at a certain point

00:29:51.060 those were being given to law enforcement there's a bunch of stuff from motorola that does this

00:29:55.820 stuff and verka vercata i guess is another one and rec record and auto like there's just it goes

00:30:02.060 on and on auto view is another one and so there's a whole industry behind this it's not just one

00:30:07.720 company and i think we should get rid of all of them i think we should ban all of them i i mean

00:30:13.280 I don't think we should have this. And, you know, I do have some sympathy that in an ideal world,

00:30:18.760 if I could have a fantasy future, I might want to monitor the criminals and nobody else. But

00:30:23.960 how would you know? Like, I still think the right answer is to have some kind of probable

00:30:29.100 cause standard to say you need a reason to monitor people. You can't just monitor everybody.

00:30:35.480 Well, and also, that's a good question. We'll ask Marcella to look if Flock can be FOIA'd.

00:30:41.360 but um take down all the cameras like red light cameras you know there's like there's a camera on

00:30:48.140 every traffic light you know what the thing is is if you really caught like a criminal doing

00:30:55.300 something and criminals were being dealt with properly according to the law it would be one

00:31:01.840 thing but nothing happens so you're just surveilling us is what you're doing and then

00:31:07.360 And this is definitely a slippery slope because now people are like, oh, we have a new industry,

00:31:15.020 the Flock cameras, the Axon cameras.

00:31:18.100 Someone mentioned Axon does most of the body cam cameras for the police.

00:31:22.520 So it's like, oh, well, what else can we do in this right now cottage industry?

00:31:28.340 And Bret Weinstein highlighted a company who's taking it to the next level.

00:31:35.040 So just imagine, this is just the start.

00:31:37.340 we're going to listen to what brett's talking about here this is one company's idea so far and

00:31:42.380 this is just the tip of the iceberg the idea that there's a private company that has this

00:31:48.460 as their business model offering its clients access to any camera connected to the internet

00:31:55.580 like we are not in kansas anymore this is this is this is somebody with a website advertising

00:32:04.780 a future dystopia that is a subscription service saying get on board first right and and you know

00:32:11.900 you want to be the top of our dystopian pyramid scheme i don't want to live in a world where

00:32:18.700 a person can be erased and the people who did the erasing run no risk because they have a

00:32:26.300 subscription to a service that allows their crime to be perfect yeah that's really what this is

00:32:31.900 yeah so it's just the start of something more so i love the resistance to this and i think more of

00:32:41.260 us actually should just take the time to either call or write to our our local police departments

00:32:47.020 even i mean i passed like five flock cameras yesterday on the shortest drive i'm like are we

00:32:54.380 serious like what the heck and it's so obnoxious you see that lens like staring right into your

00:32:59.820 car and you're like, leave me alone. Like I'm just going to the pharmacy or something, you know?

00:33:05.160 I don't like the red light cameras or the speed cameras either. And I've always wondered if those

00:33:08.980 should be legal or if they are legal because like I've gotten a few of those tickets, right? Like

00:33:15.220 a red light ticket or a speeding ticket that was from a reader, you know, from a camera.

00:33:19.860 And it's like, well, how do I, how do I face my accuser in that context?

00:33:24.600 Right.

00:33:24.960 Because there is no accuser. Nobody observed me speeding or running a red light. And it may or may not even be accurate. I've had some that I'm like, I didn't do that. I stopped at the red light. How do I, how do I confront my accuser? All they have is whatever photo they took when I was turning the corner.

00:33:41.960 and i you know it may or may not be accurate but i i feel like unless someone witness witnesses me

00:33:50.020 committing that sort of infraction i guess because i don't even know if it's considered a crime

00:33:54.300 um then they shouldn't be able to just say well we got you on camera and you know we have a picture

00:34:01.260 of your car it may or may not even show you at the wheel but we're gonna give you the ticket and

00:34:06.020 hold you responsible for it. Right. Marcel, can it be FOIA? So FOIA, I mean, that's for the federal

00:34:18.200 government. You can request for the federal government to give you records. It's not,

00:34:25.140 you're not going to be able to get any of the images from most likely because the issue that

00:34:31.000 the the issue is not the cameras i i know that that maybe it is in a way for people because it's

00:34:38.180 they've they are seeing that the issue is the data that is being collected and how it's being used

00:34:44.480 and so if just like anything else if i have books of of information about a crime i need a warrant

00:34:54.220 to get into that before I can reach into it. Uh, like your house, if, if somebody, if the police

00:35:02.020 wants to go in there, unless there's an exigent circumstance to break in because there's an

00:35:07.580 ongoing crime, they believe it's ongoing. They would need to, in order to go in, they would

00:35:12.860 need a warrant, uh, which would indicate that a judge has signed there's probable cause for the

00:35:19.300 crime and it would indicate what they're looking for the warrant also has to be very specific it

00:35:25.060 can't just be like whatever we see you know it actually has to indicate what it is so what's

00:35:30.900 happening is that the information that's being gathered the police or different agencies are

00:35:37.220 using it without a warrant which in a way for criminals it's great because guess what once

00:35:43.860 Once you're charged with that crime and your lawyer figures out that it was, it was obtained

00:35:49.600 without a warrant, then they can kick it out and you're basically the crime, like you

00:35:55.480 can walk out.

00:35:57.040 It would be a, it would be under the theory of the fruit of the poisonous tree, which

00:36:03.100 means that if anything derived from anything that you're charged with, any information

00:36:08.780 derived from the, the, the, the issue with the warrant that they didn't get a warrant,

00:36:13.860 can be kicked out so um so in a way it's like it's it's counterintuitive because the actual

00:36:21.260 criminals can get away with it because if they're just you know using it improperly um they can like

00:36:29.780 not be charged for in regards to FOIA itself that's that's for the federal uh information uh

00:36:37.720 that you can get as a citizen, um, in regards to the flaw cameras that are out there, uh, for your

00:36:45.760 state or your city, the only way you can obtain information from that is to sue civilly and then,

00:36:52.740 or, and, and basically subpoena those documents. Um, and then you're, you know, you're in a lawsuit,

00:37:00.160 but that's one of the things that, um, has happened is that a lot of the contracts with

00:37:05.980 flock or any other institution, any other company for cameras. The reason why some cities have

00:37:14.320 stopped using them is because of the myriad of lawsuits they had to face because of the misuse

00:37:21.260 of the information. So, you know, you have your, your, I mean, a lot of us might not like it,

00:37:29.940 but we have what we call plaintiff attorneys. They kind of look for anything to make money out

00:37:35.260 of it. Like, you know, your ADA, Oh, and you don't have that ramp for a wheelchair. So we're going

00:37:42.840 to sue you. You know, they're looking out for all these things. And I know a lot of people would

00:37:47.060 dislike the, the, the ambulance chasers, but there's the ones that are suing up the wazoo

00:37:53.120 for this because they know there's money behind it. So, so in a way it's it makes the, it makes

00:38:01.120 the you know there's no um it costs more to have these cameras for the amount of lawsuits they have

00:38:07.920 in their hand so i think i i mean brett's point in my mind is valid that this could easily and

00:38:15.660 will be misused pervasively like it and if if people in power don't like you for whatever

00:38:23.960 reason they'll be able to find something to put you away with and and like there was a book written

00:38:29.660 called three felonies a day and i think it was you know hyperbole but it was basically saying that

00:38:33.980 people technically break laws on a regular basis they don't intend to but the way some of these

00:38:41.380 laws are written are so vague that they could be applied to you if if people wanted to you know

00:38:47.960 they they could call call it wire fraud or mail fraud or services fraud or whatever they could

00:38:55.620 get you on what they consider a false statement to federal agents obstruction of justice all kinds

00:39:01.460 of things and so if from from the from the the footage they're getting well yeah because i well

00:39:08.980 i mean yeah but see if there's they don't have a warrant you can throw that out you know i mean

00:39:15.540 because they could say we have evidence that you did this thing right so if you have evidence that

00:39:19.780 they did this thing you have to go to a judge get a warrant and then go get the and get the proper

00:39:25.620 um so there's there's it it only matters like in order to surveil you like just say I want to like

00:39:34.540 do a surveillance on you and put something on your phone like they do sometimes with the FBI

00:39:39.200 they'll like they know there's a crime occurring ongoing and that they'll like put people to

00:39:45.700 with with mics and all that in order to do all of that you have to have a warrant to begin with

00:39:51.200 So you have to have reasonable probable costs to get the warrant and then it has to be very specific. You can't hear every, you know. So if the warrant wasn't obtained from the beginning, pursuant to different Supreme Court cases, they can throw it out.

00:40:08.980 one of them would be carpenter be united states but there's many there's there's many other cases

00:40:16.020 that are in in connection to that i mean you have to wait until you you appeal or whatever

00:40:22.980 in my opinion and i might not be correct legally and that's part of the problem is i think maybe

00:40:27.960 the laws need to change but in my opinion you shouldn't be able to just gather data about me

00:40:32.840 and say okay we know you went into this building here on this date and this time

00:40:36.540 and even if it's after the fact that they go get a warrant to get that information

00:40:41.240 i don't think there should be just this pervasive database that they could tap into whenever they

00:40:46.500 want i can't unless they have a warrant no but what i'm saying is like the data shouldn't be

00:40:51.800 there to begin with there shouldn't be some like like okay let's say they suspect me of a crime

00:40:57.800 and they do have something that they consider probable cause it might not be enough to convict

00:41:01.880 me or arrest me by itself, but they consider it up to the level of probable cause. Now they can

00:41:07.560 go in and say, let's go track everything this guy's done over the last three months and get

00:41:12.600 the pattern of their behavior and exactly where they were at every point in time and whether we

00:41:16.660 can tie them to the scene of the crime or whatever it is. And now they have that data. And it seems

00:41:23.640 to me like the collection of that data shouldn't be possible without having probable cause first.

00:41:29.640 right so you're saying you should have to get a warrant first to say this is what i think and now

00:41:36.700 i'd like to be able to surveil this person but that can't really work either because you have to 0.99

00:41:42.560 prove first what you think you're seeing to get the warrant so the answer is take all this shit 0.97

00:41:49.240 down and stop surveilling us and get off my lawn that's what i said if you don't believe they would 0.98

00:41:54.880 Look at what they did to Trump. I mean, they twisted every law and changed laws just so they could go after him.

00:42:01.880 Obama was spying on him.

00:42:04.580 So, you know, there's no question that this is going to be misused. It's probably already being misused.

00:42:10.780 And I don't think we should allow this at all. And I understand that that might mean some criminals get away with some crimes.

00:42:16.380 But to me, that's acceptable. That's a good tradeoff.

00:42:18.640 the the issue is that when it comes to a public place that's a hard um the expectation of so the

00:42:29.820 the fourth amendment applies to um if a reasonable person expects privacy in a certain place

00:42:36.720 then you can expect the privacy and it's the reasonable person standard and in a public place

00:42:44.100 many of the Supreme Court cases have, if not all of them, have indicated that if it's in the

00:42:51.980 public arena or public place, then there is no expectation of privacy. But see, that's the issue

00:42:58.460 in my mind has direct bearing on that, where it's like, yes, a reasonable person, if you're in a

00:43:03.580 public place, you shouldn't expect that it's private. I get that. But at the same time,

00:43:10.080 And when you start extending that and saying, OK, now every place outside your house is a public place and we're going to have cameras on you every moment that you're outside your house.

00:43:18.160 I don't think a reasonable person would say that I don't have any expectation of enough privacy to not be followed around by a camera all the time and have my vehicle as well.

00:43:29.580 There's been cases where there is no expectation of privacy in your own vehicle.

00:43:34.080 um but i would say you know at the coffee shop you're inside you're you're expecting privacy so

00:43:41.520 it all depends on on each thing but but what you're trying to say is that they will need a

00:43:46.340 warrant just to film you outside in the public place and i don't see let's have this hypothetical

00:43:51.840 if a police suspected me of something and they followed me around 24 hours a day every single

00:43:57.980 day for a month would that be okay if they didn't first but they're not following you around it just

00:44:03.200 happens to be that there's cameras everywhere. Right. But that, that's my point is that if,

00:44:09.160 if a policeman wanted to follow me around and surveil me, he would need to get some kind of

00:44:13.640 warrant first before he started doing that. If he wants to tap my phones, he has to get a warrant

00:44:22.520 first. He can't go back and say, well, we actually recorded all your phone calls.

00:44:27.980 So I just got a warrant. Now I have all your phone calls and every word you said

00:44:31.540 that you know that's the difference like this is if with with all these cameras collecting data all

00:44:37.760 the time it's retroactive it's like now they have access it's not because the police doesn't have

00:44:42.860 access to that so it isn't they do once they get the warrant they have access to it right but not

00:44:49.860 before but they shouldn't have they shouldn't be able to get any access until until the point in

00:44:54.360 time when they get the warrant in my opinion right and they have only they are supposed to only have

00:44:58.820 access that's what the lawsuits are about that they weren't supposed to have access to the data

00:45:05.300 until after the warrant right the cities and all that what i'm saying is different what i'm saying

00:45:10.500 is if they get a warrant then they can get the camera footage from that point in time forward

00:45:15.220 but no no no i mean this has been a long-standing even even for no flock cameras anything you can

00:45:24.180 get a hold of if it's you know it would be it would be like you know um you get a warrant um

00:45:32.100 of like a burglary right and you start going towards all the houses that have ring cameras

00:45:38.340 and obviously this is private uh video but you now have a warrant to go and get all that data

00:45:45.620 from these people and so it and it's from that point in time when the crime occurred so there's

00:45:53.140 There's nothing about a warrant that says that it's anything after the warrant because then it would make no sense for any crime.

00:46:00.060 But that's – do you see the problem?

00:46:02.640 It's different because it's so pervasive.

00:46:05.860 It's different because it's everywhere.

00:46:07.240 If you have a record of everywhere I've ever been and everything I've done and all my history, I don't –

00:46:14.240 But it shouldn't – they don't have access to that.

00:46:16.320 I don't think – in my opinion, I don't think that meets the reasonable person standard of privacy. 0.98

00:46:20.720 okay so yeah the supreme court disagrees i'll jump in because marcella's going from the point

00:46:31.040 of the law owen's going from the point of but it's like i i see i see both of your sides like

00:46:38.960 i totally like marcella you're a lawyer so i see your yeah i'm just telling him how it is

00:46:45.440 i don't disagree with what marcella is saying right i'm saying i think it should be different

00:46:50.000 i agree well yeah and then the loss would have to change you know marcella probably agrees too but

00:46:55.840 she's got to go with the law but yes let's put owen on the supreme court stat um yeah i'm totally

00:47:02.000 with you like i i don't i don't expect that i think i am being surveilled all the time just

00:47:07.760 because there's cameras every freaking where but i don't think that's right and i don't think i

00:47:12.720 don't feel like that's you know something i should just say like well it's just a given i'm being

00:47:17.280 surveilled like i would really love to know where i have privacy because you know i don't like even

00:47:22.640 in your own house your phone's listening your smart tv is listening alexa is listening you

00:47:28.480 know everything's listening so you really don't have a lot of those smart tvs you might not know

00:47:34.640 are taking screenshots of what you're watching and sending it to the cloud somewhere

00:47:38.960 yeah like leave me every few every few seconds yeah so we don't have it but all right so i'll

00:47:44.480 I'll move on from this, you guys, but I'm staying on this because the flock camera issue is maddening.

00:47:50.240 But, you know, I guess like, you know, we wouldn't say it's an 80-20 thing.

00:47:53.920 I think it's more of like a 90-10.

00:47:56.040 So if anyone anywhere wants to score some points with the masses, get rid of these flock cameras for starters.

00:48:03.400 And then let's move on to the red light cameras and everything else.

00:48:07.360 It's a total invasion.

00:48:08.780 So I'm trying to decide.

00:48:10.440 All right.

00:48:10.680 So, Marcella, how much time do we have?

00:48:12.340 Ten minutes.

00:48:13.280 Okay.

00:48:13.540 I want to just play this clip quickly. It is Bill O'Reilly with Chris Cuomo. Is that his name?

00:48:21.480 Chris Cuomo from CNN. And he says something that you said the other day, Marcella, is that he

00:48:27.700 thinks there could be like a big event coming that will change the midterm elections. So let's just

00:48:34.500 take a quick listen and then I'll ask you to react. I'm very, very cautious about this midterm

00:48:42.200 because I believe something is going to happen in the next 30 days.

00:48:47.660 Wait, what does that mean?

00:48:48.300 It's a major event.

00:48:49.280 What do you mean? What kind of major event? What are you saying?

00:48:51.620 I think that the president is going to have to take what they call decisive action, 0.94

00:48:57.700 which means he's going to have to blow up a lot of the infrastructure in Iraq. 0.95

00:49:03.880 You think the American people want to see a deeper escalation

00:49:07.180 unless there's absolute regime change that we have to own?

00:49:11.400 You think that's a winning formula?

00:49:12.600 I think the American people, I think the winning, you just said the word.

00:49:17.060 I think the American people want to win. 0.91

00:49:18.860 I think they despise Iran.

00:49:20.520 There's no sympathy for Iran.

00:49:23.840 Okay, so yeah, that would definitely change the results of the midterm election.

00:49:29.440 So, I mean, now I got the impression from you, Marcella,

00:49:33.620 that you thought maybe something would happen here in the homeland.

00:49:36.940 Yeah.

00:49:37.560 Okay, so, and Bill O'Reilly's thinking,

00:49:39.980 in iran well or or you know or to our troops somewhere you know because i mean if something

00:49:49.640 were to happen i didn't understand that like if something were to happen in iran like and how does

00:49:55.300 i i don't know how i would force people to to vote differently here yeah unless we find them

00:50:01.720 with a nuke and like them right and then so i i would think it would have to be something that

00:50:07.800 would hurt us um and then we could buy iran and then we could see okay trump is right we need to

00:50:15.460 like go and and take care of iran um like the iran hostage right issue that happened during

00:50:23.000 carter reagan um the reason why i'm thinking that there would be is because things have been

00:50:29.300 escalating, um, Iran wants some kind of payback for them, for, for the Ayatollah. Um, they're not

00:50:39.260 known to just turn the other cheek sort of way. Um, and recently, I think yesterday someone was

00:50:48.840 caught, uh, with a nine 11 plan or something buying, uh, bombs or whatever. I don't know what

00:50:55.040 was buying but some kind of uh she had plans that was to attack the new york state house upstate 1.00

00:51:02.960 new york like where hochel is and she is an ice declared isis person and she was going to put a 1.00

00:51:09.440 bomb in a door dash bag and have it go off when the state senate was um in in chamber speaking 0.57

00:51:17.520 yeah yeah so so yeah i i personally don't want that to happen but it's we're in that um very

00:51:28.080 heated you know situation i don't know what alex jones like before 9-11 he indicated that in a

00:51:36.440 white paper whatever i called it but um i don't know what he's saying nowadays but um it would

00:51:43.880 it would probably fit to go back five or 10 years and see what he was predicting. Cause it seems

00:51:49.000 like he has this premonition. It's wacky. I know. Um, so, all right. So I'm actually going to move

00:51:56.460 on. Cause there's one more quick story I want to get in. Um, there's a few, I don't know which one

00:52:01.380 to do, but I want to just introduce you to someone, um, who I'd become like lightly become

00:52:06.920 friends with and she's going to come on the show, but first, so you guys, we have the worst governor

00:52:12.880 in New Jersey, Mikey Sherrill. So listen, listen to our governor and Andy, please weigh in here.

00:52:21.260 She's she's just going to protect all doctors who want to like trans children and potentially

00:52:26.540 injure them. And just take a listen. Washington Republicans continue to attack

00:52:33.600 health care across the nation. And we know how dangerous that is. So we are drawing a line here

00:52:38.980 in New Jersey. My budget already devoted 50 million dollars to protecting

00:52:43.420 reproductive health care and today with the signing of this enhanced shield law

00:52:47.440 we further protect people, protect people seeking gender affirming care,

00:52:51.640 reproductive health care. We make sure that providers aren't punished for

00:52:55.660 providing that care, that insurance companies provide support for that care,

00:52:59.800 that your privacy is protected as you seek health care here in the state of

00:53:04.360 New Jersey and if you are here seeking legal care in New Jersey then we are

00:53:08.440 going to protect you from other states that try to come after you as washington republicans try

00:53:13.060 to weaponize the federal government against the citizens of this country we are saying not here 0.84

00:53:18.480 not in new jersey okay mikey so she's horrendous you guys so my soon-to-be new best friend her name 1.00

00:53:29.320 is dawn fantasia um she is a freaking dynamo and i i i'm gonna say it if we're gonna have a female 1.00

00:53:38.420 governor. I want it to be Dawn. She is a Jersey girl through and through, but she is so stupidly 1.00

00:53:45.800 smart and common sense. And here's what she says in response to Mikey. 1.00

00:53:52.180 The bill does not differentiate between children and adults. It is highly, highly problematic.

00:54:00.620 Adults can make adult decisions. That's their right. Children are different. Children cannot

00:54:08.040 make irreversible decisions. That's why they don't get tattoos, can't use a tanning

00:54:12.080 collar, can't get a piercing. We know the whole rigmarole. You can't do any of that

00:54:16.040 because it's permanent. And I don't like giving shields 0.96

00:54:20.060 around agencies, doctors, and institutions

00:54:23.140 so they have a shield around them from being held accountable to

00:54:27.980 what they do to children. I mean, I can't help but think, this bill has done, had so many different

00:54:32.000 iterations. I can't help but think that California didn't spurn part

00:54:36.040 of this for us, where, you know, that very, very public case where a child had multiple

00:54:44.660 different gender transition procedures and as a young adult went back and tried to seek

00:54:50.440 justice from the provider, providers who she says now have misdiagnosed her and took her

00:54:56.500 down a path she was not able to understand at that age, I can't help but think that we

00:55:02.320 have blinders on. I don't believe that you want to, quote, hurt children or hurt women. But when

00:55:08.200 you say this bill is not about children, to me it is. We do not have the right to shield institutions

00:55:14.060 and providers in the state of New Jersey from out of state. And if someone out of state did

00:55:19.680 something or provided a service to one of my daughters and hurt them irreversibly, and that

00:55:24.460 state tried to put up barriers between my child getting justice for that, I would hit the ceiling.

00:55:30.420 I truly believe we should be protecting the children, not only in the womb, not only,

00:55:37.160 you know, our teenagers. I think these are things that are irreversible. Please don't

00:55:42.480 protect the providers, protect the kids. Thank you. I love her. So that's Dawn. You guys are

00:55:50.300 so funny. You're like, her name works against her. I mean, what's she going to do? But I mean,

00:55:55.600 I'll show you clips of her down the line. I'll show you the one that made me fall in love with

00:55:59.880 her. I flipped out. I was like, oh my God, standing up in my office, like, who is this woman? Let's

00:56:05.740 go. So, um, Marcella, what do you think about this? I saw you react to the privacy comment.

00:56:13.360 Um, you know, can you, I mean, is this the way to go just protect the providers and not the

00:56:19.800 children? It seems, um, like a disaster. The shield, um, from what I can gather from my

00:56:28.540 limited research i would have to say you guys is that it does apply to children as well as adults

00:56:34.300 the shield itself um i don't i don't agree first of all i don't agree on having a shield for

00:56:42.140 anything because the laws are there if you are the laws are ready and i know i hate going back to law

00:56:48.700 but um but if you were to like just say erica wants to go to the dentist and somebody wanted

00:56:55.100 to prevent her from going to dentist and holding her back, she could sue for either, you know,

00:57:01.740 basically have them held for assault or, or, um, kidnapping or whatever you want to call it,

00:57:08.620 whichever crime applies. And then also civilly civil harassment for not allowing her to go to

00:57:14.060 the dentist. The same thing would be if I, an adult want to go and change my gender,

00:57:19.340 I'm going to become, uh, Marcelo. Right. So if somebody wants to prevent me from doing that, 0.83

00:57:25.580 then I could sue them for doing this. And it could be a crime for somebody to prevent me to go

00:57:31.340 to do what I need to do. So the shields are there. There's HIPAA I'm sure in New Jersey where, um,

00:57:38.700 your medical records are private already. I just think it's a stunt by, by her to, you know,

00:57:44.940 know, play to her base, her liberal very leftist base, or maybe middle of the road base, I don't

00:57:53.220 know. But it just seems like it's not, it's all the laws are already there. The only laws that

00:57:59.980 aren't there is the shield for the children, because you have to have parent consent. And I

00:58:05.260 don't see that. I think it's kind of a loophole to allow children of any age to go and be shielded

00:58:13.660 away from their parents to do this change. And yeah, and that's not, I

00:58:17.980 don't, I believe that, that, you know, I'm not against trans. 0.85

00:58:23.320 Um, shockingly, you guys, I have trans friends, but, um, it, they're

00:58:29.220 adults, they can do, you know, they do it while being adults, even

00:58:33.140 they, um, who I know would be like, we weren't ready when we were

00:58:37.280 children, you know? So the, the issue is the parents should have

00:58:43.300 the control over what their child does.

00:58:47.840 I mean, I feel like we've gone to this age where, um, where, okay, criminals should be

00:58:55.900 in prison.

00:58:57.260 Parents should be able to parent. 0.96

00:58:59.060 Like it's become so silly. 0.69

00:59:01.220 Right.

00:59:01.980 Oh, and any quick take on that?

00:59:04.680 Well, I think it's disgusting and I think we should be protecting our kids from these 0.55

00:59:10.700 things, especially.

00:59:11.720 I personally think we shouldn't allow any doctors to harm anyone, according to the principle we've

00:59:18.360 had for, I don't know, centuries of saying, do no harm. And so I don't think they really should

00:59:24.380 be cutting off body parts from anyone. So that part of it bothers me that we shouldn't, I mean,

00:59:31.000 if I went to a doctor and said, cut off my hand, I don't think anyone would do that. And I don't

00:59:36.680 think it should be special if it's a reproductive part that's a great point owen seriously that's

00:59:42.420 such a great like cut my nose off who's cutting your nose off they would be in jail yeah and so 0.74

00:59:50.460 i just think the whole thing's ridiculous i don't think it should be allowed at all

00:59:53.300 and i mean these are obviously psychological issues they're not physical issues and it doesn't

00:59:59.540 require what they call medical health care it it requires psychiatric or psychological care

01:00:06.440 And I'd probably also be careful about the psychiatric side because of all the drugs and SSRIs and what it causes people to do.

01:00:13.880 But that's, again, my own opinion.

01:00:15.120 But I just think it shouldn't be allowed, much less protected.

01:00:21.120 And certainly if we have to, we can start with defunding it.

01:00:25.500 But I think, you know, because certainly we shouldn't have the government paying for it either.

01:00:30.040 um but i think we should be fighting this to just say you know especially our kids especially the

01:00:37.420 kids because they i think your your friend on is perfectly correct that it should not be

01:00:44.380 you know allowed to let a kid make a decision that's irrevocable and can just end up with them

01:00:51.960 not being able to have sex not being able to have kids not being able to have a normal life

01:00:57.320 And again, I personally think it should not even be allowed for adults, but I would be

01:01:02.140 much more willing to allow someone to harm themselves as an adult than as a child.

01:01:08.000 Right.

01:01:08.760 Yeah.

01:01:09.400 So boob jobs, you guys, not the same thing.

01:01:11.800 A boob job, typically you're making them bigger or smaller.

01:01:14.680 And if it's a mastectomy, that is because typically of breast cancer.

01:01:20.040 So Dawn's last name is Fantasia, Dawn Fantasia.

01:01:24.580 and i kind of love it because you're not going to forget it you know dawn fantasia i picture the

01:01:29.140 whole disney movie happening um but she's a dynamo so we're going to hear more from her soon

01:01:34.380 and you guys thanks for a great great show um it is 1102 my time so listen um owen tell us what

01:01:43.680 you're doing tomorrow i am doing the after party tomorrow so anybody who wants to have a voice and

01:01:49.680 talk about the news or anything else really um join me at the normal time we'll have the

01:01:54.580 simultaneous sip and we'll talk about the news and we'll have the simultaneous sip on sunday as

01:01:59.000 well so all set for the weekend crusher i love that and um sjv will be there as the keeper of

01:02:06.380 the flow i think is your new name um so join owen tomorrow you guys it's a good time also

01:02:13.640 So, did you say Sunday?

01:02:17.260 Yeah, Sunday too.

01:02:18.020 Sunday.

01:02:18.340 Okay, Sunday too.

01:02:19.220 So subscribe to Owen if you're not already.

01:02:21.780 All right, you guys.

01:02:23.400 Marcella and I have plans this weekend.

01:02:25.360 We're going out partying.

01:02:26.640 I'm getting my tattoos on and we'll report back on Monday.

01:02:30.140 And you guys, listen, I am 90% sure that next week we have Walter Kern joining us.

01:02:39.300 So don't say I don't do anything for you.

01:02:41.680 okay so you guys let's have a great weekend let's say thank you to scott and shelly for allowing this

01:02:46.800 show to continue thank you to everybody that shows up here on all platforms we really really

01:02:51.540 appreciate you and let's have a beautiful closing sip to our beloved scott to scott

01:02:58.480 be useful

01:03:00.440 okay i will all right bye everybody

01:03:06.060 bye

01:03:06.600 bye

01:03:11.680 Walter Kern is awesome. Yes, you guys. Listen, Walter's hard to peg down, but

01:03:19.360 we're getting there. We're getting there. Yay for Walter. All right, guys. I'm not doing an

01:03:27.180 Akira song today, but you guys think of all the great lessons we learned all week and maybe work

01:03:34.580 on that filing cabinet Brian taught us about and just take out some things that really never

01:03:41.480 served you and you don't need to hold on to them anymore. You could just let them go. Okay, guys.

01:03:48.040 All right. So please, okay. Metal Seer, have a great weekend. Thanks you guys.

01:03:56.080 The last, oh my God, the tornadoes were wild last night. Thank God right here. I wasn't affected,

01:04:02.040 but there were tornadoes everywhere. Power went out. It was definitely crazy. I'm not a fan of

01:04:09.080 bad weather, I just have to tell you. And go for a beer later. Let's go. All right, guys.

01:04:17.260 Happy weekend, Jackie. All right, everybody. See you Monday. Thanks, Flavor.

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