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00:00:30.000 good morning everyone good morning locals you're all in here first

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00:01:04.220 i love that okay you guys here comes joel hang on one sec

00:01:11.980 and then we'll get to the sip oh joel's fancy oh look at joel he's very james bondish on the phone

00:01:18.700 Oh, there. He can hear me. Hi, Joel. Hi, how are you? Good. How are you doing?

00:01:23.800 I'm very James Bondish. Yes. He's like on his phone or Maxwell Smart, either way.

00:01:30.820 Both great men. We didn't sip yet. We're waiting for you. We're just saying hello to everybody.

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00:02:33.960 Good morning, everybody.

00:02:35.620 I am Erica.

00:02:36.540 You are at the Scott Adams School.

00:02:38.540 I am joined today by, of course, our always co-host, Owen Gregorian, and our special guest

00:02:45.280 professor slash favorite uncle slash friend, Joel Pollack, is joining us today.

00:02:52.780 And we're so happy to have you here.

00:02:54.920 We need all the updates.

00:02:56.320 And just how are you, Joel?

00:02:58.260 Well, I've been promoted to uncle, which is interesting because uncle is sort of a senior

00:03:03.660 role.

00:03:04.500 Yes.

00:03:04.780 I guess, you know, I can no longer be favorite second cousin.

00:03:08.680 I guess I'm not a kid anymore.

00:03:11.200 Yes, you are very important. 0.80

00:03:13.380 You can be the fun uncle or the crazy uncle.

00:03:16.580 You know, you have choices. 0.91

00:03:18.280 You know, when Trump started running, Saturday Night Live did a character, and they called him the drunk uncle.

00:03:23.900 And the drunk uncle was the only one who supported Trump.

00:03:27.280 And that's how, you know, I've got a week left to finish Scott's biography.

00:03:33.480 And I've been getting feedback from people who are reviewing the draft.

00:03:38.440 And some of the feedback is really quite daunting because there are still many changes that need to be made in the next seven days.

00:03:45.900 But one of the interesting pieces of advice that I got was around Scott's prediction in 2015 that Trump would win the election.

00:03:55.880 And this person said, you really need to add more information there because now everybody thinks it's obvious that Trump won.

00:04:03.480 But you have to remind people how crazy it was to think that Trump was going to win.

00:04:08.880 So you've got the drunk uncle on Saturday Night Live who's the only one who supports Trump.

00:04:13.100 And you've got Ann Coulter going on Bill Maher and the audience literally laughing out loud at her when she says that he's the most electable Republican candidate.

00:04:22.320 So you've got to remind people how crazy it was.

00:04:24.840 Now it seems obvious, but it was.

00:04:26.500 I agree with you.

00:04:27.480 I can tell you personally when, you know, Scott convinced me that Trump was going to win.

00:04:33.200 and that was very early like it was you know there was still a full slate of republican

00:04:37.980 candidates running like there was what like eight or 12 of them on stage right and and that was when 0.93

00:04:44.060 scott came out and said trump's gonna win this and here's why and you know the clown genius and all

00:04:48.260 that and like i was convinced and then i started telling my family like i told my siblings and

00:04:54.880 parents and stuff i'm like trump's gonna be your next president and they looked at me like i was

00:04:59.820 nuts they're like what that's not that's not gonna happen no way and they just literally thought i was

00:05:06.700 crazy to say that and even up until the election even up until the election like you know i would

00:05:13.860 take that michael moore thing that was predicting it and show that to people and stuff and people

00:05:18.340 would still look at me like i'm crazy and all the polls were saying hillary had like a 90 whatever

00:05:22.660 percent chance of winning and so i i even bet someone it was a gentleman's bet but like i bet

00:05:28.060 someone at work that trump was going to win right on election day and he's like no way that's going

00:05:32.860 to happen and i'm like yeah it is and and then it started happening and i could just see his face

00:05:37.300 as it was coming in you know he was just like flabbergasted so definitely it was not expected

00:05:43.300 and not obvious in any way up until the point where he won i think it was so overwhelming too

00:05:49.740 joel because we know that i i don't think they realized they would have to like cheat the way

00:05:55.240 they do now, allegedly. But it was so overwhelming that you couldn't have cheated your way out of

00:06:02.560 that first one. There's just no way. And I too, I think that's what attracted me to Scott too.

00:06:08.520 When I first found him on Periscope, I was like, oh yeah, yeah, Trump's totally going to win. Like

00:06:13.540 I wrote it in my journal in 1997 that I hope Trump runs for president one day. He'd be amazing. He's

00:06:19.640 a businessman, whatever. And so then when I found Scott and he was like, you know, it's not like he

00:06:24.680 was in love with Trump, but he's like, this guy's going to win. And I'm like, Oh, a hundred percent.

00:06:28.660 I'm like, let's go, let's hear, let's hear what this guy's saying. So yeah, it was a big deal.

00:06:33.500 Yeah. I didn't think he was going to win until very close to the end. I'll tell you my evolution

00:06:40.420 on it briefly. When Trump came down the escalator and gave that speech, I wrote a piece about how

00:06:46.020 Trump understood the American electorate better than most of the other candidates, but I didn't

00:06:49.780 think he was going to win. And then there is this photograph that Jay Hong of the Associated Press

00:06:57.380 took in July 2015, so about three or four weeks after Trump got into the race. And it was Trump

00:07:03.900 meeting with the Angel families. These were the families that had lost relatives to illegal

00:07:08.660 immigrants or crimes by illegal immigrants. And Trump stood there with his hands folded in front

00:07:14.620 of him in this very humble posture. And that photograph, I think more than anything else

00:07:21.960 communicated the idea that somebody was finally listening to these people and nobody else had

00:07:29.200 among the Democrats, among the Republicans. And from that moment, you start to see Trump

00:07:34.680 climb in the polls past everybody, past Chris Christie, past Jeb Bush. And then he is leading

00:07:44.080 the polls by the time he comes into that Republican debate. So the electorate was already kind of

00:07:48.140 telling us which way they wanted to go. But it was assumed that Megyn Kelly was going to take 0.59

00:07:52.880 Trump down in that debate. And Scott then weighed in with clown genius. I still didn't think Trump 1.00

00:07:59.260 was going to win until later, that is to say, win the nomination until later that year. I had an

00:08:06.000 incredible fall season that year of political coverage. We went to cover the first Democratic

00:08:11.500 debate in Las Vegas at the Wynn Hotel and Casino. And then we went back to Vegas for various other

00:08:17.600 events. This is when I was with Breitbart. And I took a team of people to cover the Democratic

00:08:22.800 debate. That in itself was incredible. Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Jim Webb was one of the

00:08:28.540 other candidates. And the Wynn laid it on thick. I mean, they had this incredible buffet for all

00:08:33.620 the journalists. And we just had a party. I mean, I kicked in some money, you know, like Breitbart

00:08:39.080 rented a car for me, but then I paid extra to get the convertible. And I took all my colleagues out

00:08:44.140 on the strip, and we went nightclubbing and all this kind of craziness. And, you know, it was just

00:08:48.600 kind of a crazy time. And then we came back for Trump. I came back to cover Trump about a month

00:08:53.700 later. It was the night before the Republican debate at the Venetian, where you had Sheldon

00:09:03.660 Adelson, still alive, sponsoring that debate. And the night before, Trump had a rally, but it wasn't

00:09:09.940 at any of these fancy places. It was at the Westgate, the Westgate Casino. Now, the Westgate

00:09:14.360 is pretty far off the Strip, and it's more of a sort of ordinary person's idea of a Las Vegas

00:09:22.640 vacation. It's not super flashy. It's got a ballroom, and it's got a casino floor, but it's

00:09:28.420 really much more kind of a working class casino than the Venetian, the Wynn. And Trump packed

00:09:36.160 that ballroom, just absolutely packed it. There might've been three or 4,000 people there.

00:09:41.320 And down the street, Marco Rubio, who was the sort of intelligentsia candidate, now he's more

00:09:48.080 of a MAGA guy, but at that time he was kind of the establishment's favorite. He got about 200

00:09:52.340 people. Trump was pulling in 3,000, 4,000. And Trump got up there on stage and he did the opposite

00:09:59.180 of what every politician had ever told me to do in this sort of setting. The sort of conventional

00:10:05.800 wisdom was expressed by Bobby Jindal. Remember him? He was the governor of Louisiana, which is

00:10:11.060 that you want to show up late. You want to create a sense of mystique around the candidate. You want

00:10:16.100 to speak quickly and then leave. In other words, create an aura of kind of otherworldliness around

00:10:23.100 a political candidate. Trump did the opposite. He showed up on time and he spoke for more than

00:10:27.080 an hour and he said whatever was on his mind. And the people in the audience felt that he was

00:10:31.480 letting them in on his secrets, letting them in on the way he thought. So there was kind of an

00:10:35.480 intimacy between Trump and 3,000, 4,000 people. And I looked around and I said, this guy is the

00:10:41.740 real deal. This is not some kind of a vanity project. This is real. And then he came out the

00:10:47.020 next day at the Venetian and he absolutely wiped the floor with everybody at the debate. But he did

00:10:51.500 it in a nice way. He was even nice to Ted Cruz, who he would later be very mean to. And that

00:10:57.740 rivalry was already developing. But Trump established himself the next day at the Venetian

00:11:02.000 as a unity candidate, someone that the party could unify behind. And so he went into the

00:11:07.020 Christmas holiday season with this commanding lead in the polls. And a week or two later,

00:11:11.740 there were going to be the Iowa caucuses, but there was nobody who was going to come close to

00:11:14.780 him. And I said, this is real. And at that point, the establishment started freaking out. That's

00:11:19.800 when the never Trumpers came out. They're like, we got to stop this. We got to publish articles

00:11:23.740 against it. But that's when I thought, you know what, this guy's going to win the nomination.

00:11:29.260 And I didn't think he would win the election. I thought he was offensive enough to enough people

00:11:34.080 that they wouldn't vote for him. Until, again, the rallies in the late stage of the campaign,

00:11:39.320 people coming out all hours of the night. And, you know, I would talk to Scott about this. By

00:11:43.520 then, Scott and I had developed a kind of friendship and we would speak a lot. I interviewed

00:11:47.860 him for Breitbart and we talked a lot. And at that stage, I started to see the world the way Scott

00:11:54.500 saw it around Trump, which was that really the play was persuasion. And it wasn't about

00:11:59.060 the usual metrics that I had gotten used to using to measure candidates. So Scott talked about that

00:12:06.700 a lot in Winn-Bigley. And the point for him in Winn-Bigley was not to write a campaign memoir

00:12:11.600 the way I wrote one. I wrote one called How Trump Won. And Trump was sort of the central character

00:12:17.660 there and everything. But Scott wrote Winn-Bigley. And his point was, I'm not trying to tell you that

00:12:22.640 Trump is going to be a good president or whatever, or that you should like him or not like him. I'm

00:12:26.160 trying to tell him tell you the reader that trump ripped a hole in the fabric of the universe and

00:12:31.600 he allowed you to see what is on the other side he allowed you to see how things really work

00:12:36.900 and that's how i've seen things for a while but i couldn't really explain it until trump came along

00:12:41.760 and provided the perfect mechanism to tell you about how perceptions work how human beings work

00:12:48.340 how how the universe works how you can bend reality in a way by framing things and that was

00:12:54.320 a theme of many subsequent books that Scott wrote. But that was how Scott saw the election. I saw it

00:13:00.880 differently. So I was looking at polls and crowds and that sort of thing. And Scott was just looking

00:13:05.220 at how is this being framed? How is Trump writing his own story? And anyway, that's my little

00:13:12.920 journey in that election. And you can read all about it in the book. It's so good. And just how

00:13:17.460 Scott would laugh too at all the nicknames. I mean, how hard did we laugh, you guys, when

00:13:22.920 he called De Niro, punchy De Niro. I mean, Scott was crying. We were crying, laughing. I mean,

00:13:28.620 the nicknames were so good. Um, and that that's persuasion too, because every person's name,

00:13:35.140 you just said, Joel talking about that campaign. I'm like, Oh, little Marco. Yeah. Lion Ted,

00:13:41.740 uh, sleepy this one, you know, like I remember all the nicknames, they, they stayed with me and

00:13:46.000 no one had ever done that before, but it's so relatable that you're just like, yeah, like give

00:13:51.960 the guy a nickname and he would, he would say to Rand Paul, the one time a Rand is trying to like,

00:13:57.640 you know, get him on the stage and Trump's like, well, uh, I'm standing in the middle and you're

00:14:02.080 at the end. So like meeting like the next debate, you're gone and I'll still be in the middle. You

00:14:06.700 know, it's just, it was so petty, but it was so funny and true. And it was just true. And, you

00:14:13.540 know, I, I loved listening to Scott because sometimes, you know, Trump would say something

00:14:18.160 And you're like, oh, my God, like, how's he going to recover from that?

00:14:21.180 I can't believe, you know, he said this thing.

00:14:24.720 And, you know, then Scott, you know, Scott would usually just start laughing and then

00:14:28.480 just talk about the persuasion part of it.

00:14:30.400 And you were like, all right, I guess he's going to skirt around this, too.

00:14:33.260 So let me give you an example.

00:14:34.960 Yeah, I just have it here on the shelf.

00:14:37.040 So I covered the debate in Simi Valley in California. 0.87

00:14:42.560 And the big story to come out of that debate was how well Carly Fiorina had done.

00:14:46.720 Carly Fiorina was running and she really got a good shot in at Trump.

00:14:52.900 She went after Trump over his comments on women and it was very effective.

00:14:57.320 And she actually shot up in the polls after that debate because she made a really good

00:15:02.580 impression.

00:15:03.040 She seemed to be the only candidate who had been able to lay a glove on Trump.

00:15:08.580 Let me tell you how Scott describes that in Wynn Bigley.

00:15:11.100 OK, so the conventional wisdom, she got a good shot in.

00:15:14.000 she rebuked Trump on stage. CNN helped her do it. And Trump really didn't have a good answer. And

00:15:20.760 the journalist I was with thought, wow, Carly Fiorina did a great job. And she did. She went,

00:15:25.040 I think, from like 2% to 15% in the polls. Listen to how Scott does this. Okay. It's fantastic.

00:15:32.460 A good example of an enormous persuasion mistake happened during the Republican primary debate on

00:15:37.480 September 16, 2015 in Simi Valley, California. Candidate Carly Fiorina tried to cut through the 1.00

00:15:43.460 crowded field by graphically describing an alleged video of an abortion that went wrong.

00:15:48.280 I'm intentionally not describing it here. You'll see why. When I watched Fiorina's bold move to

00:15:53.420 capture the nation's attention on a key topic for the Republican base, I publicly predicted that she 0.97

00:15:58.260 had self-immolated. I call it the worst persuasion move you are likely to see in any realm. CNN's

00:16:04.460 poll put Fiorina at 15% during the week of the debate. As I predicted, she dropped to 4% one

00:16:09.780 month later and was soon out of the race. If you are not a student of persuasion, you might think

00:16:14.480 Fiorina's strategy was bold and clever. It guaranteed free attention from both the mainstream

00:16:18.620 media and social media, and it positioned her as the strongest voice on a key election topic. It

00:16:23.120 was unforgettable, and it matched the emotions of the Republican base. All of that sounds good.

00:16:27.840 But here's what she got wrong, and this is more wrong than anything you are likely to see in any

00:16:32.140 realm of life, much less politics. Fiorina paired her brand with a dead baby. I knew voters wouldn't

00:16:39.140 want to think about Fiorina's horrible story of a dead baby for one second longer than they needed

00:16:43.060 to. I doubt anyone consciously interpreted the situation as I describe it, but humans don't make

00:16:47.960 political decisions for rational reasons anyway. The persuasion filter says Fiorina lost support

00:16:53.140 because she polluted her brand beyond redemption by associating it with the most horrible image one 1.00

00:16:58.000 could ever imagine on live television. So she went to 15%, but Scott's like, she's done.

00:17:03.960 that's amazing what a good point like what a great observation has scott always had

00:17:09.440 that's crazy yeah and i did you i mean i'm assuming you do but do you have coverage in

00:17:15.720 the book on the whole access hollywood tape thing because i remember that being like scott's big

00:17:19.880 moment of doubt during all that yeah i do write about that i mean it's not that important i think

00:17:26.800 to the overall story but i think the one point that emerges from that and he writes about this

00:17:33.900 and would win bigly. But I think the reason Access Hollywood didn't sink him, and I remember he said

00:17:40.140 this at the time in some of his periscopes or live streams or whatever he was doing, was that

00:17:45.020 until Access Hollywood, for about six weeks, the attack from Hillary Clinton had been that Trump

00:17:52.060 was dark. He was a dark candidate. And more than that, he was too dangerous to trust with nuclear

00:17:58.980 weapons so trump was going to blow up the entire world he was a dark creature who could not be

00:18:07.320 trusted and then all of a sudden with access hollywood he's a guy in a locker room joking

00:18:13.060 about grabbing women and it took the threat level of trump from this down to kind of like this he 1.00

00:18:20.180 went from you know the devil to being my relatable my stupid kid brother you know like like it just 0.99

00:18:28.100 kind of it just made yes it was offensive it was more offensive than anything we ever would tolerate 1.00

00:18:33.100 from a candidate up until that point but it was so non-threatening I mean I suppose threatening

00:18:39.440 if you're female and you're alone with him I guess if you're thinking that that was a real story and

00:18:43.100 a real prospect you know okay but it's not going to destroy the planet you know it might might lead

00:18:48.640 to some uncomfortable situations you know but it's not gonna it's not gonna blow up the world

00:18:53.700 So Hillary Clinton made a huge mistake jumping on that because instead of being a nuclear threat, Trump was basically just offensive and we can all survive being offended.

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00:19:32.480 map to get your coupon she should have just sat quiet at that moment married to bill like i was 1.00

00:19:41.540 like like what are you doing hillary like just it's going to put the attention right back on you 1.00

00:19:46.360 now and that your husband is a whatever philanderer. So I just found it rich that she was going to 1.00

00:19:53.120 have to now, you know, make him the devil when she was married to a man who actually did the

00:19:59.500 things, didn't just get caught saying something. So it was pretty amazing. And

00:20:04.860 well, here's another thing. Here's another thing. So with, I'm going to get into the weeds a little

00:20:10.480 bit here. I don't write about this in the book and I have to be very careful how I say this, but

00:20:14.600 when Trump told the story that was on the Access Hollywood tape, what he was telling a story about

00:20:20.900 was that in his mind, it was about the secret desires of women. He was basically saying,

00:20:28.480 I get away with this because they want me to get away with this. What Bill Clinton had done

00:20:35.000 was basically close the door behind whoever had just walked in and take advantage of them. And

00:20:44.260 and there was never any idea that this is secretly what she wants.

00:20:47.720 This was what I can do with power.

00:20:49.860 I am the governor or I am the president.

00:20:52.700 And when that office door closes,

00:20:54.980 you're trapped in here with me.

00:20:56.560 That is much scarier than I know what you really want,

00:21:00.440 which is why I get away with it.

00:21:02.200 It's,

00:21:02.520 it's,

00:21:02.800 I mean,

00:21:03.080 it's,

00:21:03.320 it's creepy.

00:21:04.280 It's,

00:21:04.460 it's both creepy,

00:21:05.300 but like one of them is kind of like,

00:21:07.300 you know,

00:21:08.880 it's,

00:21:09.340 it's,

00:21:09.780 it's about a kind of quiet,

00:21:12.280 that weird language that sometimes goes on between men and women.

00:21:15.240 And the other one is about all about what men do to women who are in less

00:21:18.860 powerful positions. And that's, that's basically why Bill Clinton is actually

00:21:21.940 scarier. Yeah. Oh yeah. And really, I mean,

00:21:24.480 I would say like what the Trump story kind of sounds like it comes right out of

00:21:29.560 a romance novel.

00:21:32.440 Well maybe, but you know, speaking of which I want to,

00:21:37.240 I want to segue to something else if I could on another dangerous topic.

00:21:41.400 I sent this to my wife because it's my favorite story of the day in the New York Post and the

00:21:46.080 California Post where I work now so Scott had this long-running sort of rivalry you could call

00:21:53.060 it with Andrew Tate and the Tate brothers or whatever and the Tates I don't know all the

00:21:57.940 details and I'm not going into all the details in the book I don't make them important at all I just

00:22:02.080 they get one mention in the book but Scott defended them when they were arrested in Romania because

00:22:08.920 he said looked innocent until proven guilty but they were really mean to him and apparently they

00:22:12.620 did a lot of nasty things and said a lot of nasty things well my favorite story is that the tate

00:22:16.860 brothers who've now been arrested they went to court and they claimed that all of the things

00:22:22.060 they put on social media the yachts and the fancy cars the the convertible whatever bugatti or

00:22:28.840 whatever they were driving they said it was all rented it was all fake that it was that it was

00:22:33.980 entirely a front man yeah i just love it because these were the guys who ran the so-called manosphere

00:22:43.780 you know and and the thing about it is i don't knock anybody who wants to give advice to other

00:22:48.480 men you know even like manly advice you know most of the advice is it's pretty useful from you know

00:22:53.160 talk about someone who's gotten loved like mike cernovich you know get in shape learn a combat

00:22:57.680 sport earn some money save some money take care of your kids defend your wife like manly things

00:23:02.160 but the Tate brothers gave a different kind of advice, which is you can be more of a man if you

00:23:07.280 abuse women. You know, I built an empire on my, you know, webcam, whatever, that was kind of their

00:23:14.160 advice. And I, you know, like not only should you have women in your life, but you should have other

00:23:19.580 men's women in your life, you know, like this kind of rapaciousness. And it all was a total farce. 0.57

00:23:26.240 like it just turns out to be completely fake. And so I just love that story, because it shows you

00:23:32.480 that being an a hole and being a man are not the same thing. It's just it really is it really is 1.00

00:23:38.300 different. And I think Scott, what Scott was teaching was, was manly. And like, you know,

00:23:44.460 I mean, obviously, women got something out of it as well a lot. But, but there was a kind of quiet

00:23:49.340 strength of routine of having a system of showing up all the time um you know that's i think more

00:23:56.300 masculine than taking advantage of people oh sure you know um so anyway i just i think i think i

00:24:03.960 saw that story about the tates today i thought you know i wish scott had been here to see this

00:24:07.080 one because he really would have laughed he's seeing it and he's laughing i'm sure of it yeah

00:24:12.880 that's funny yeah yeah so yeah no he will i mean like that's the thing with scott you know if even

00:24:19.260 if he had like a personal beef with someone, you know, he can still see through the clouds

00:24:24.920 of, you know, okay, but this, you know, this isn't right.

00:24:27.420 And they are innocent until proven guilty.

00:24:29.080 And, um, I used to get annoyed with Scott because I felt like, I think it's like an

00:24:35.260 East coast, West coast thing.

00:24:36.720 And you guys tell me if you're on the East coast or West coast, but I used to always

00:24:40.200 joke like, oh my gosh, Marcella and Scott are so West coast and it's more about like

00:24:46.400 celebrity and this and that. And the East coast is more like you crossed me it's over, you know,

00:24:52.600 like we're a little like mafia vibes. I hate to say it, but you know, so like, let's say Jimmy

00:24:58.080 Kimmel did something wrong, which he always often does. Um, or, or anyone on the West coast, he'd

00:25:04.000 be like, well, you know, he saw one of my, like he said, he's a Dilbert fan. And, you know, we try

00:25:10.800 to give like artists, like a, you know, like we give each other like a break because we're like

00:25:15.300 in the same industry and this and that. And I'm like, no, it's not right. You have to be mad at

00:25:20.440 him equally. But he was just, you know, he had this like, what would you call that? Like, just

00:25:27.740 like this, like sympathy, empathy for people if they were like in the same realm as him. And I was

00:25:37.340 just like, oh my God, how is he able to just do that when someone's such a blatant jerk? But I 1.00

00:25:43.400 don't know scott had like a superpower with those things yeah he really did and look i i've got a

00:25:50.520 lot of challenges in the next 48 hours really because i'm trying to trying to make as many

00:25:55.720 changes as i can to the book and it's it's going to be tough i mean i i feel like i can tell you

00:26:04.700 guys this because i think this audience is going to be interested in the book but much of what you

00:26:11.980 do when you have systems that help you create things is routine. And I think systems generally

00:26:18.900 do work. You know, you have a system, you write a certain amount every day or a certain amount

00:26:25.160 of time every day. And I have always used systems to write, but ultimately what makes writing

00:26:32.820 successful cannot be done by a system. So the system gets you to that point. And then the rest

00:26:39.680 of it is pure will and hopefully creativity and talent there's there's that extra little bit of it

00:26:47.860 that has to come from something that is not a system it has to be inspired and that's the part

00:26:55.160 that terrifies me that's the part that i have to get right and that's where i'm sitting right now

00:27:00.200 and that is really a sprint to the finish so it's not really something that can be organized and

00:27:05.240 done at an even pace. Right now, it's all about that part of the marathon that gets everybody

00:27:12.640 excited. It's the last sprint. And it's frightening. I've had to figure out how to

00:27:20.860 move through it. And so one of the things I do, I mean, you still have a system for it. But one

00:27:25.440 of the things I do is I try to take myself to a beautiful place and work there. So I did some

00:27:31.380 editing on the beach the other day. And today I'm hoping to go to an art museum and sit there and

00:27:35.780 do some interesting tinkering with the draft and hopefully get it closer to where it needs to be.

00:27:41.080 But it is scary. It is scary. And so you're seeing me kind of before. This is the before picture.

00:27:47.400 And maybe a week from now, I'll feel a lot more relaxed and hopefully happy with what's happened.

00:27:53.420 But it's really great to connect to you guys because it does remind me why I'm doing this.

00:27:58.180 And I'm going to just tell you one more criticism that somebody made of the draft, which is they said that it's too pro-Scott in a way.

00:28:10.040 And it's they said, you know, you want to write a biography, not a hagiography.

00:28:14.000 You don't want to talk about how great somebody is.

00:28:16.380 You also need to talk about that person's flaws.

00:28:19.220 And, you know, I do to some extent.

00:28:21.880 But I said to this person, look, first of all, Scott asked me to write this, and I'm his friend,

00:28:28.900 so I'm not going to approach it like some disinterested, neutral third party. That's

00:28:34.040 just not how the tone of the book is going to be. But I take your point in that I think what

00:28:41.080 Scott would have wanted is for this book to be accessible to people who didn't agree with him.

00:28:47.220 so maybe this is the kind of book you should be able to pick up and enjoy even if you didn't like

00:28:53.440 Scott or thought he should have been canceled and you don't like Trump you wouldn't just put this

00:28:58.260 book down right away after reading the first page and so those are the changes I have to make I have

00:29:02.920 to basically make this universal and I think it's there I think all the material for it is there I

00:29:10.140 just need to find a way to bring it out and that's the challenge that is the challenge in the next

00:29:15.500 few days. That's interesting. I mean, because he asked you to write it. Yeah. I mean, I can see

00:29:23.680 where you would be like, oh, this is like a weird position because it's not like a tell all, you

00:29:28.620 know, it's not like you're trying to write something sensational. You want to tell, in my

00:29:35.400 opinion, I would, I would think about Scott and be like, I'd want to tell a story of his life and,

00:29:41.940 you know things that he overcame throughout his life how he handled each part of his life

00:29:48.080 what his growth was like what he learned the people he met along the way what made him who

00:29:53.600 he is today like how the times changed around him i mean he would always tell us how he

00:29:59.000 lost two jobs because he was a white man and you know like that happened so long ago and then how

00:30:07.440 that propelled him into like really going forward with Dilbert and cartooning and trying other

00:30:13.500 things. And I just reminded Owen yesterday, do you guys, I think it might've been in one of his

00:30:18.380 books or he talked about it, that he was like building some kind of computer system. He was

00:30:24.040 like building a computer or like a program or something. And, you know, he got frustrated with

00:30:30.260 it and eventually he had to like abandon it, but the man tried everything. Like nothing stopped

00:30:35.480 him from moving forward and trying the next thing there's a we'll we'll have this in the book there's

00:30:41.080 a company he started i don't even think he's mentioned it anywhere else there's a company

00:30:47.340 a software company he started and he created a video game i think he mentioned it in how to fail

00:30:53.900 i don't know if he mentioned the title of the company anyway the video game was sort of like

00:30:59.900 space invaders or asteroid whatever that early atari game was yeah you have to like space command

00:31:07.020 or whatever it was and what scott did which was interesting was he he offered an open source

00:31:12.040 option for the game so you could either buy the game and play it or you could buy the code program

00:31:16.940 it yourself and change it as you went along which is really interesting but what i find interesting

00:31:21.420 about it is that he invented a logo for the software company and the logo is a character

00:31:26.040 that looks very much like Dilbert.

00:31:28.420 So, you know, little things like that.

00:31:31.440 He did try everything.

00:31:32.740 He tried absolutely everything.

00:31:34.700 And it's interesting what he,

00:31:38.720 you know, the cartooning part of his life

00:31:41.460 wasn't even the focus.

00:31:43.700 I mean, he became a successful cartoonist,

00:31:45.440 but he didn't just leave Pacific Bell

00:31:48.300 and say, I'm going to be a cartoonist.

00:31:50.360 He was also exploring other things.

00:31:53.360 he he had an invention called the folderoo have you ever heard of the folderoo what was that

00:31:58.940 the folderoo was basically a manila folder with another little pouch attached to it where you

00:32:05.500 would put a floppy disk so if you had files and printouts you could keep them inside the folder

00:32:11.860 and then you have the disk on the outside of the folder so you weren't always losing the disk

00:32:15.420 because you know these file folders you put a disk inside and they would fall out whatever

00:32:19.100 completely useless today totally useless but he basically i think got a patent for the folder room

00:32:25.620 never went anywhere i but i mean what a great idea right yeah follow the room like a kangaroo

00:32:31.840 um you know he had all kinds of ideas he tried absolutely everything and some of the ideas were

00:32:36.600 good i interview i interview the ceo of the dill burrito of scott adams food nice yeah the dill

00:32:44.180 burrito um scott describes the dill burrito in in his book i think how to fail as basically uh he

00:32:52.520 says one of the problems of the dill burrito is that it caused people to have flatulence and he

00:32:58.340 said in his words it would make you fart so hard your intestines would grow a tail that's how he

00:33:02.800 that's how he put it but um the uh the former ceo of scott adams food disputes some of that so

00:33:12.180 you'll hear his perspective but he learned a lot from the experience anyway yeah scott tried

00:33:17.540 everything and he was open to trying everything um look the question i have for you you're saying

00:33:24.420 you have this seven day deadline in the next 48 hours like is that an arbitrary deadline is that

00:33:28.440 self-imposed like could you go back to your publisher or somebody and say just you know i

00:33:32.460 need another two weeks well it's both right so josh and i decided we wanted this book out before

00:33:40.320 christmas he did not want to let the christmas season go by without having this book ready

00:33:45.140 and also given that scott died at the beginning of the year i think many people who loved scott

00:33:53.620 would like to achieve some kind of closure this year i think there's an urgency to telling the

00:34:01.640 story now so we decided we wanted it out before the christmas holiday season and this is really

00:34:07.620 the latest we could finish a draft that would give josh time to edit it get it ready for publication

00:34:14.000 so we we were going to do it we were going to finish the draft by the end of july we pushed

00:34:19.400 it to the end of august basically this is as late as we can do it could i do it could i have held

00:34:24.040 on to it longer i i could have i could have but i don't know if that would have been good for

00:34:30.100 the ultimate success of the book i think yeah it needs to be commercially successful and it needs

00:34:36.720 to connect to your audience i mean it needs to connect to the people who are as invested in this

00:34:41.840 as as you guys are um so that this becomes something that lives with that audience that

00:34:47.760 people can take going forward yeah it makes sense i i just you know i when i think about it it's like

00:34:54.300 this is something that only gets done once right like you it's it's the scott adams biography and

00:35:01.340 there's never going to be another one i don't know maybe there could be a second version i guess but

00:35:05.520 But, you know, it's like, I just want to make sure you took your time enough to do what

00:35:11.280 you consider a good job on it.

00:35:13.060 And, you know, I'm sure you could always say, well, I can make it better.

00:35:18.120 I could do this.

00:35:18.680 I could do that.

00:35:19.260 So you have to cut it off sometime.

00:35:20.700 And I recognize there are these other factors that matter.

00:35:23.820 So I get it.

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00:35:53.560 speaking of which i probably have to go to my editorial meeting in a minute but

00:36:03.220 um i you know just i i wish me luck that's all i if everyone could keep me in their thoughts over

00:36:10.540 the next week or so yeah i really i really want to make this as excellent as i think it can be

00:36:15.700 and you are i think it needs it needs a little bit of work but you know i mean i sound like a

00:36:22.620 broken record, but listen, everyone that knows Scott knows you and he asked you to write the

00:36:31.100 book. Okay. And you and I have talked about like maybe why and whatever, but it's because he has

00:36:36.460 mad respect for you and whatever this book turns out to be, you have to understand it's what it's

00:36:42.380 supposed to be. It just, it'll just be what it's supposed to be no matter what. And we have so much

00:36:50.520 love and interest in Scott and his life and his stories. We're going to be so happy to read. We're

00:36:56.320 going to read things we didn't know before. We're going to laugh. We're going to cry. We're going

00:37:00.120 to hopefully have the closure we need if you need it. And Scott was smart to leave it in your hands.

00:37:07.200 I really couldn't think of somebody else in his sphere that would be a better choice than you to

00:37:14.220 write this book. So don't beat yourself up over it too much. You care because you love him so much

00:37:19.900 you want to do justice for him and make it right and everything, but it's going to be exactly what

00:37:25.500 it should be. I'm confident in that. And, um, the other thing I wanted to say, cause some people

00:37:31.980 were like, I thought, you know, there was some confusion. I thought he was, you know, Joel was

00:37:35.660 going to talk to every single person who reached out that wanted to tell a story. No, that was

00:37:40.520 never said you guys. So, you know, there were certain people that Scott said, talk to these

00:37:45.640 people, X, Y, Z, um, and then, you know, send in your stories if you want to. And if Joel needed

00:37:52.180 to reach out to you, he would, but it was never, I'm reaching out to everybody who wrote because

00:37:56.900 there were thousands, of course, thousands of people who sent messages and they were all read,

00:38:03.000 but obviously not everybody can, you know, get their story into this book, but it does help to

00:38:08.940 shape, you know, who Scott was. So I'm sure that all of those entries helped Joel see like from

00:38:14.860 all different people you know what he meant to you as like a group so your entries were very

00:38:21.020 important but there's impossible it would just be ridiculous to talk to everybody

00:38:27.340 well um thanks everyone and and uh look forward to being back again soon

00:38:31.820 oh my gosh as soon as you can we want you here bye joel good luck we're rooting for you

00:38:37.500 you guys we love joel okay let me kick him out there we go so amazing owen i can't wait i can't

00:38:50.380 wait for the book and i don't you know what i want for christmas yeah get it on your christmas list

00:38:56.380 i think it's supposed to be you guys i'm not sure when the pre-orders will start but the book should

00:39:01.060 be out like for November purchase. So as soon as we hear, we'll tell you. And just so great. I love

00:39:10.020 it. That was excellent, SJV. We miss Scott so much. And I just can't wait for everybody to

00:39:18.660 read this book. It's going to be amazing. All right. So Owen and I, oh, you guys, Marcella.

00:39:24.140 So sorry, because we just got moving right away. Marcella will be back tomorrow. She has the day

00:39:29.660 off today and she misses you guys and she said she'll see us tomorrow all right so i'm gonna

00:39:36.680 try to just blow through a whole bunch of clips owen and little stories and we'll just do as many

00:39:43.160 as we can but i have to just start with new jersey being ridiculous but before you start i we just

00:39:49.420 kind of like glossed over this fact that you have a journal where do i put in the foyer request so

00:39:54.200 I can get the Erica journal to compare to the Fauci diaries. I wrote in a journal for a very

00:40:00.880 short period of time and it was very sporadic, but I did write in there. I found it not that

00:40:08.560 long ago. I'm like, oh my God, I always wanted Trump to run for president. And in 97, that's

00:40:13.640 when I officially wrote it into my journal. So you will never see it. I might've even burned it by

00:40:18.940 now because listen, I don't have kids. I'm like, who's going to clean out my house one day? I don't

00:40:23.660 know. So let me just start burning stuff. Oh my God. There's a lot to burn baby burn. So,

00:40:31.180 um, all right. So back to New Jersey, cause I don't want to miss the opportunity of

00:40:37.720 trashing my state in the most polite way. All right. How many of you have been to a Bucky's

00:40:43.140 Bucky's it's like this gas station rest stop that has like a thousand gas pumps. And apparently the

00:40:50.440 most amazing store you could go into, do all your Christmas shopping, get a brisket sandwich,

00:40:55.720 Christmas ornaments, snacks, you name it, furniture for your house. So I'm dying to go to a Buc-ee's 1.00

00:41:02.240 and of course the CEO of Buc-ee's is amazing. Life's too short. Buc-ee's CEO won't build in

00:41:10.740 blue states that don't appreciate the brand. We're building in a lot of places, but when you find a 0.95

00:41:16.300 conservative business friendly state with a phenomenal workforce it makes a difference

00:41:20.620 so um they're not building in new jersey is the word and i am not happy but i get it and now i'm

00:41:29.220 like is bucky's publicly traded because i want to support this man it's a smart business decision i

00:41:36.920 mean i get it but if you guys do you you don't have a bucky's in chicago now no i i don't think

00:41:44.220 we have any close to me but i've certainly i've been to one i mean because i've taken enough road

00:41:48.640 trips across the country that i've seen them was it amazing yeah it's a pretty amazing place i mean

00:41:53.960 it's kind of like this little oasis on the highway and you just sort of i mean it i don't think i

00:41:58.820 intentionally went there like some of the people for the world cup were doing but um yeah it would

00:42:03.540 just be like you know you'd stop for gas and all of a sudden you're like what is this place and

00:42:07.520 it's like this massive you know indoor thing and they've got everything you could imagine there so

00:42:12.860 it's a pretty incredible experience uh-oh alien baby said i'll have to pump my own gas if i go to

00:42:18.460 bucky's all right never mind i don't want that oh you guys all right so that's great you have the

00:42:24.560 you have the full service yeah is that right yeah that's weird by the way no just okay well it must

00:42:33.960 be a new jersey thing it is a new jersey thing you guys and listen mikey cheryl you are ruining

00:42:40.760 everything in the state and if you take away this gas thing this glorious i don't pump my gas thing 0.59

00:42:47.000 for me oh forget it i'm gonna go nuts so if there's something you can ruin i know you will

00:42:53.420 don't do it and also you're gonna take away a lot of jobs from people she ruined this for me

00:42:58.440 i will be so pissed do you tip them is that how it works nope they get paid um they get paid like

00:43:06.520 you know a regular job and like it's not like you know no no you don't tip them so but but if it's

00:43:13.200 like crappy weather or somebody's like doing service with a smile and whatever i'll tip them

00:43:18.360 sometimes i'm just like you know what like here's a couple of bucks whatever and if you tip them

00:43:22.700 they're like oh my god thank you like because you just don't tip it's not a thing um but i have

00:43:29.520 um so yeah it's amazing and you guys like raining snowing late at night early in the morning or like

00:43:36.160 you're having a bad outfit day and you just don't want to get out or you're all comfy chatting with

00:43:40.440 your friend on the phone. Like, listen, just pull up and hand them your credit card and ask them to

00:43:45.380 fill it up. It's amazing. It's a good time. Um, so please don't ruin that Mikey, Cheryl, just

00:43:51.580 don't ruin everything. Okay. Now here's another quick story. Owen, what Erica, you need your oil

00:43:58.020 check they'll check your oil too by the way um okay listen what the heck is this with google

00:44:06.740 wanting to release mosquitoes first of all what do they have to do with each other i have no idea

00:44:11.860 but can we just watch this clip and then owen try to make me not jump off the cliff here we go

00:44:17.380 google should stick to web browsers and ai instead of conducting one of the largest open

00:44:23.700 air biological experiments in U.S. history to release, it's actually 64 million mosquitoes

00:44:30.260 into California and Florida, which could result in irreversible ecological system disruptions.

00:44:38.560 If you eliminate an entire or suppress severely an entire species of mosquito,

00:44:44.880 you could have other invasive species fill that role and you'll also disrupt the food chain in

00:44:51.560 the ecosystem because birds bats frogs they all eat mosquitoes so they're going to have less food

00:44:57.940 there that could disrupt that screw things up there as well as google actually tried this in

00:45:04.200 fresno in 2018 it did suppress the mosquitoes but once they stopped all the mosquitoes came back so

00:45:11.260 basically google wants to put people on a subscription service of mosquito releasing

00:45:16.340 you can't make this up oh my god all right i mean everything could go wrong with this right 0.58

00:45:24.160 it's like what are we doing so i'm horrified we've got those chinese lantern flies here 0.92

00:45:29.560 and uh thanks china and they're like eating not the dogs and cats but they're eating the trees 1.00

00:45:37.080 and gardens and like we're we're taking down ash trees and trees of heaven constantly they're just 0.92

00:45:43.400 like killing everything so i i find this to be a problem what do you think well i do number one

00:45:49.840 think it's bizarre that google is doing this like why why is that something that google is like i

00:45:55.920 i mean there's mosquito abatement companies all over the place um and you know i kind of

00:46:02.120 appreciate at least that you can do it near your house you know to get rid of mosquitoes in your

00:46:06.840 backyard and stuff but um what does google have to do like why why are they even involved with

00:46:12.840 this they're a tech company so that's bizarre yeah and you know I don't know exactly what data

00:46:20.220 we have um and what happens but I that's the thing that I might say to calm you down is that

00:46:27.600 like I believe we do have data about this I don't think this is the first time they've done

00:46:33.420 something like this where they because as I understand it and it wasn't covered in the clip

00:46:37.720 but I think um as I understand what they're doing is they're releasing a whole bunch of like sterile

00:46:42.780 mosquitoes or something and so that the the mating doesn't happen and so it's kind of like uh you

00:46:49.940 know just suppressing the reproduction of mosquitoes and um i don't know you know i guess

00:46:58.200 i would have to look at the data to understand like does this cause ecological collapse but

00:47:03.080 i would be surprised if we don't have a lot of data where people have done this type of thing

00:47:08.120 before and i think we would have heard about it if it was this ecological disaster well there you

00:47:13.720 guys in the chat on locals are are saying what i was wondering like does this tie to bill gates in

00:47:19.320 any way because that was my first thought like if we followed the path and the money and the whatever

00:47:24.920 is it going to lead to bill gates because it feels very bill gatesy um i i don't know i don't i don't

00:47:31.800 like this i don't like messing with the ecosystem um you know yeah if one thing changes the the

00:47:38.600 ripple effect the butterfly effect will be huge i'm imagining so yeah frogs will die i asked grok

00:47:46.280 and it says ecological effects it depends on what you kill if you're talking about invasive

00:47:51.560 container breeding some species then there's no predator that depends on it and um so it wouldn't

00:47:59.720 necessarily have much of a knock-on effect on birds bats fish or spiders field operators in

00:48:05.080 australia and florida make the same point that this a egypti species is not a native species

00:48:11.400 anyway but it says it's different if it's going after like the native floodplain wetland mosquitoes

00:48:16.840 right and that that does have documented effects um where like soil and ground food webs are

00:48:25.480 different and um so basically they're differentiating they're like you know killing the

00:48:30.820 swamp mosquitoes every year is not the same experiment as remove the dengue mosquito from a

00:48:35.300 city and so you know i don't know exactly what google's doing and i don't certainly don't trust

00:48:40.680 them uh you know um and i don't think google should be involved in this like i just i think

00:48:47.580 it's a big mistake you know just like bill gates and all these other it's like they get involved

00:48:51.220 in all these health care and it's it's kind of weird that they always seem to go in this health

00:48:54.420 care direction like we're gonna do vaccinations we're gonna do you know like almost like uh you

00:49:01.560 know reproductive health stuff like whether it's hearing yeah and it's like biological engineering

00:49:07.260 it's like why why why do you go from tech to that like yeah don't engineer us like leave us alone

00:49:12.400 please and it does seem like kind of like a world control sort of agenda so yeah oh yeah all right

00:49:20.780 so owen you i'm gonna just pivot quick so we can do a few more things but you posted a story today

00:49:28.780 oh could you tell us so it was with marco rubia marco rubio and syria and what did what did they

00:49:36.300 do they're not designated as our as a terrorist uh country anymore something like that yeah so

00:49:43.660 Rubio said that Syria is no longer officially listed as a state sponsor of terrorism.

00:49:49.640 It delists some of the people from the specially designated global terrorist list.

00:49:54.780 He said, today I authorize the formal rescission of Syria's designation as a state sponsor of terrorism following the conclusion of the mandatory 45-day congressional notification period.

00:50:04.760 I have delisted Ha'at-Tahir al-Sham's, which is HTS, I guess, designation as a specially designated global terrorist.

00:50:12.680 These actions represent another historic step by President Trump to give the Syrian people

00:50:16.900 a path to prosperity.

00:50:18.220 So I think it's probably releasing some sanctions and things like that.

00:50:22.820 And then the State Department said these actions were all taken in recognition of the positive

00:50:26.940 actions taken by and further commitments by the Syrian government under President Ahmad

00:50:31.440 al-Shara to fully distance Syria from acts of international terrorism.

00:50:34.980 In the past year, the government of Syria has taken significant steps to counterterrorism

00:50:38.960 to include formally joining the global coalition to defeat ISIS in November and conduct operations

00:50:44.900 to disrupt terror networks in ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, and Iran-aligned groups. And it goes

00:50:51.120 on. But I think essentially it looks like they're saying, at least, that they've made a lot of

00:50:55.860 progress in both not sponsoring terrorism, but also disrupting terrorism. And so it sounds like

00:51:02.220 they're giving them some credit for that and saying, we're going to take you off the list.

00:51:05.960 Okay. All right. So I'm going to look at that as good. I'm going to say good. It's nice to take

00:51:13.720 someone off the list when we're always putting people on the list. So that's nice. And I'm

00:51:19.980 looking at the comments and I do want to say you guys, yeah, we're going to talk about Tibet

00:51:26.360 tomorrow. There was massive flooding in Tibet and also, oh, and tomorrow I want to talk about

00:51:33.300 that secret trip to Moscow. So we'll talk about that. The other thing I wanted to get to

00:51:41.080 was this H-1B visa working issue. So I want to play this clip first. It's from the Ingram

00:51:50.020 angle. And this is a problem. And Owen's going to tell us about this too. Take a listen.

00:51:56.720 Congressman, back in 2016, President Trump gave a fabulous speech where he basically said in part

00:52:03.620 that he has used H-1B visa workers, but he thought at the time they really, they shouldn't be

00:52:09.640 available and the program should be ended. That was Trump in 2016 and I applauded. 1.00

00:52:17.940 Yeah, it should be ended and my bill would absolutely do that. I think JD laid out

00:52:22.460 a very good case in point. Microsoft fired 16,000 Americans and then turned around and hired 9,000

00:52:29.220 workers under H-1B. Disney fired 250 employees. And then just like what J.D. was talking about,

00:52:36.580 had those 250 American employees train their replacements under H-1B. We have Americans

00:52:42.620 that are skilled in all these different areas. And I think what the president is doing is trying

00:52:46.980 to do what he can do within the administration to try to restrict this and make it more difficult.

00:52:52.400 Obviously, the president can't change the law.

00:52:54.740 That's Congress's job.

00:52:56.040 And that's why I filed this bill.

00:52:57.540 And I'm hopeful that we will have some type of immigration package as we come in to the end of this different Congress.

00:53:04.640 And I've talked to Chairman Jim Jordan about this.

00:53:06.620 Immigration comes through his committee in judiciary.

00:53:08.920 And I'm hopeful that we will do an immigration package and my bill will be part of that.

00:53:13.240 Congressman, back in 2016, President Trump gave a...

00:53:16.980 Okay, so it is pretty messed up.

00:53:21.600 when you're firing Americans, you know, and especially like you think Disney should be so

00:53:28.280 pro-America. This has to be one of the biggest like exploited and abused systems we have in

00:53:34.120 government. And it doesn't help Americans. It doesn't, I mean, I guess you can say it helps

00:53:39.500 companies to some extent. So I guess it's a pro-corporate sort of thing, but it just seems

00:53:44.880 like overall it's abused left and right the way it's structured. So it's highly flawed at a

00:53:50.720 minimum but i i would be for it i would be for just saying get rid of it because um what you

00:53:57.180 see is like they have all these special conditions you have to do to be compliant with it and and

00:54:02.300 they're supposed the spirit of it is that you have to find an american first and it's only when you 0.99

00:54:07.260 can't find an american that you can hire an h1b but in practice what that translates to is they

00:54:12.960 play all kinds of games they they there's a requirement to advertise the position and you

00:54:18.320 have to consider anyone who applies for it but they advertise it in these obscure places they

00:54:22.620 don't go to like monster.com or indeed or whatever these major job boards are they don't put it on

00:54:28.360 linkedin they they put it in some obscure place that nobody's ever heard of and nobody ever sees

00:54:33.220 or they put it in like a classified ad or some weird place that nobody's ever going to see it

00:54:37.420 and the whole point of it is just just be able to say you complied and you didn't get any

00:54:42.140 applications and now we can go hire the h1b that is really what our objective was all along and 0.96

00:54:47.740 it's like they're just totally cheating the system and then on the opposite side of that 1.00

00:54:53.120 they bring in mostly indians and they bring in these people that are now captive to the companies 0.96

00:54:59.780 yeah where they can't really push for raises or bonuses or promotions the way an american could 0.61

00:55:05.280 they can't leave that's the big thing is they're sponsored by a company so it's kind of almost

00:55:10.700 like indentured servitude where they're like okay i'm here but i can't ever leave this job because

00:55:15.480 if I leave, then I lose my visa. And so it's exploiting the workers, too. And so it's a

00:55:20.700 terrible program. It doesn't benefit Americans. And I think we should just get rid of it. I think

00:55:24.860 it would be better. We'd be better off without it. And I recognize that there may be talented

00:55:30.420 people in India and other places that we might want working here. But I think it should be a

00:55:35.440 legitimate, real good system for identifying where is there a person with a skill set that we

00:55:40.680 literally cannot find here. And there are other visa programs for those things. So I don't even

00:55:46.540 think it hurts us to get rid of this one because it's clearly not a good standard they're using

00:55:50.380 and not a good set of practices. And I think we should just get rid of it. And I published an

00:55:54.900 article about Representative Riley Moore saying similar things. Maybe he's part of the same bill,

00:56:02.800 but he's saying, I don't believe that for a minute they have trouble finding people with

00:56:07.180 skills in the U.S. to find those jobs. This isn't about skills. It's about money. It's about cheap

00:56:10.900 labor. This is what they're looking for. If you look at every H-1 visa that's put out there, 0.80

00:56:14.840 it's paying lower than what the market value of an American who has graduated with the same degree.

00:56:19.200 We're the only people on the face of the planet, our labor force, that has to compete with labor

00:56:22.800 all over the world inside our own borders. And it goes on. But I think I'm all for that. I'm

00:56:29.180 agreeing with these people. I think it's a terrible program. And I think we should put

00:56:33.440 our americans to work first and only when we literally can't find them is when we should do

00:56:37.920 that but i mean we you know my son is still working looking for a job yeah and and you know

00:56:43.600 he should have a job before we bring in a single h1b i agree and the other part of the scam of it

00:56:49.840 all is that these companies leave help wanted ads up for lack of a better word so it appears that

00:56:58.080 they're always looking to hire and looking for people but they don't call anyone back and they

00:57:03.920 never take those ads down so it's like kind of like hey look we're we're always looking we just

00:57:08.720 don't have anyone so it's not it's not right and um i'm not you know i don't know who started the

00:57:15.520 whole thing i don't know how it ran amok but it has so it it's got to get reined in lots of things

00:57:20.880 have to get reined in but this is this is definitely one thing that would help our economy

00:57:25.280 and help Americans if we could put a stop to that. 1.00

00:57:28.300 And I think that if you're from another country 0.99

00:57:30.500 and you have a special skill set,

00:57:32.880 that that should just be handled on an individual basis.

00:57:35.940 It shouldn't just be like we're flooding the market,

00:57:38.400 you know, so.

00:57:39.660 Yeah, and Breitbart is also reporting

00:57:41.520 that the DHS is putting in a new rule

00:57:44.480 that is charging $103,265 fee for each new H-1B visa.

00:57:51.600 I thought we already had this.

00:57:52.880 I think it was 100,000 round number,

00:57:54.820 But I think maybe the courts did something and struck it down.

00:57:58.160 So maybe they're trying again with this one, but they're putting together this new rule.

00:58:02.520 It was, I think it's formally published yesterday and there's a 30 day comment period and all

00:58:08.020 that.

00:58:08.420 So it's going through the process, but I'm all for that as well.

00:58:12.160 I mean, at least in the meantime, if we don't get rid of it, let's at least make it expensive

00:58:15.720 so that it's has a real, a real disincentive to say, you know, you could, it's not going 1.00

00:58:23.900 to be cheaper to hire a foreigner. Right. Cause that's what it just becomes is like this 0.99

00:58:29.880 indentured, indentured slavitude kind of thing. My word. Um, you guys listen really quick

00:58:36.020 housekeeping. Could you give us a like, um, on whatever platform you're on, we would appreciate

00:58:40.860 it. Also, um, in the show notes on each platform, please take a look at what they say and read them.

00:58:48.140 so you guys understand, um, what's happening, um, within the show and, um, the chats and

00:58:56.080 everything else. Okay. So just take a look at that. And, um, tomorrow we will be back with

00:59:02.880 Marcella. So I only have a second and I, you guys, I wanted to play this clip. I, I don't even want

00:59:11.060 to say anything about it, but I was watching this in bed last night and I could not stop laughing.

00:59:16.780 and i don't know if it's going to be funny today but you guys you guys tell me and i don't know

00:59:22.080 this guy just sent me here we go they should be coming because they did i've had it with you 0.99

00:59:27.740 oh my god they're commended they're gonna kill their children these are she's a murderer 1.00

00:59:32.320 these are man-hating women that are standing outside this is what it's about they think the 1.00

00:59:38.480 husband did it they're crazy they've lost their mind you know why they're waving for a murderer 0.98

00:59:42.580 do you know why the woman is in a wheelchair did you even notice that she couldn't care less she's 0.96

00:59:46.340 murderer because she jumped out the window after this so she should have pushed her they say that 0.90

00:59:51.740 lindsey was in psychosis i think these women are suffering some from psychosis they've been 1.00

00:59:56.140 watching too many true crime netflix dramas you know this was a incredibly privileged woman 1.00

01:00:02.340 incredibly wealthy she had a nanny and she's still complaining that she needed help she could not 1.00

01:00:07.720 have got more help from the system that she already had received this is a murderer who strangled her

01:00:13.060 children one by one one of the boys ran away and she chased him down and killed him laurie watkins 0.98

01:00:17.380 what you just said was absolutely disgusting thank you should be ashamed of yourself and you 0.93

01:00:23.540 can hear that he's not okay because it's true you clearly don't care so pipe down okay and by the 0.98

01:00:28.820 way men watching this if you have a woman sat next to you on the sofa who is defending this murderer

01:00:34.340 you got to think deeply about this i've seen weddings talk to your women and find out what

01:00:40.600 are they thinking they're defending this woman it's i don't think anybody's defending what she

01:00:44.880 did but you can have empathy for what she went through and how she i know many women that this

01:00:49.280 has happened to no they did not kill their children but they also what you fail to well

01:00:54.180 they should be coming because they did i've had it with you oh my god they should be commended 0.92

01:00:58.740 they're gonna kill their children these are she's a murderer i can't okay they should be 0.99

01:01:04.260 that what like that was so like everybody's face his reaction she's like doing yoga breathing the 0.98

01:01:18.360 host is like raising his eyebrows oh my god that was amazing that's that's i mean amazing owen was

01:01:25.720 that amazing for you it was amazing i think it's crazy how women are you know some women i will say

01:01:32.320 not all women but some women are defending this woman or seeming to because it just seems like

01:01:37.660 such like i mean if you want to talk about how women have it hard go do that some other time

01:01:44.440 not in this context like this is like the worst example you could pick to say oh let's talk about

01:01:49.700 having empathy for this woman no she killed her kids she's a murderer the guy's completely right 1.00

01:01:54.940 and there should be no defense for that whatsoever and i do still want to point to i'm guessing she

01:02:00.920 was on some kind of antidepressants and that may have had a big part to do with it and we should

01:02:05.700 be looking at that and saying you know i understand people get depressed sometimes and that's a

01:02:10.160 problem and we should try and help those people but like if we put them on these drugs that end

01:02:15.720 up having them kill their kids well now we've got a bigger problem yeah so i i think we need to start

01:02:21.420 with the bigger problems and you know let let and and deal with the root causes of this which 1.00

01:02:29.360 in my opinion, sometimes is that some of these women don't have enough problems. And so they 1.00

01:02:33.660 invent them. Yeah. I mean, so you guys, this is regard, and we're almost done. We're regarding

01:02:39.180 the Lindsay Clancy. I can never remember her name case where she confessed to murdering her three

01:02:46.080 little children, um, horrendous. And then I guess tried to kill herself, um, attempted slitting her 1.00

01:02:52.660 wrist and she jumped out of her window of her house, leaving herself paralyzed. And so the

01:03:00.560 reason there's a court case right now is not to say if she's guilty or innocent, or did the husband

01:03:06.000 do this? Because, you know, we spin the narrative on everything we see, but it's to say, should she

01:03:11.600 be put in jail or go to a mental institution? My opinion, this case should have never been brought.

01:03:17.220 just literally put her in a mental institution she's mental jail is not going to do anything 0.97

01:03:22.660 for her this is again my opinion but the husband's not on trial okay and so now women yes things can 0.94

01:03:29.780 be hard and postpartum and hormones and then add in a cocktail of ssris and drugs and this and that

01:03:37.460 and it's like a perfect storm but the husband's not on trial lindsay confessed to doing this she 0.67

01:03:44.340 clearly needs help. Okay. I, you know, you can say death penalty, you could put her, you know,

01:03:51.280 in an institution, whatever it is, she's going to be living in hell the rest of her life. That is 0.98

01:03:56.380 for sure. So, um, but man, ladies stop with these like Tik TOK videos. You're holding your precious 1.00

01:04:05.380 children. There's like this sensation, you guys, there's a guy named Luca. I think it's,

01:04:10.600 I think it might just be L-U-K-A. I'll post it later, but go look at this guy's account on X.

01:04:17.920 He's putting up all these videos from TikTok of these women holding their precious, precious

01:04:22.520 children. Like if they're crying even better because it makes their video even better. And

01:04:27.840 they're saying things like same Lindsay, like same what? Like you understand, like maybe you

01:04:33.320 could kill your kids too. Like stop. And you're also giving your husbands plenty of ammunition 1.00

01:04:39.000 for when he divorces you and takes full custody of your kids. So everybody calm down with the

01:04:45.140 clicks and the likes and your kids are going to see that video one day. And when your kid's like

01:04:50.140 a few months older and it's not as difficult to maneuver your life, you're going to feel so bad

01:04:54.960 that you ever put that out there on the internet forever because it's forever. And, um, you know,

01:05:00.740 talk to your, your family, your friends, your husband, your parents. If you go to a church,

01:05:07.120 talk to your priest, your pastor, your rabbi, whoever, but don't put this shit on the internet. 0.99

01:05:12.720 It's, it's a bad look and you're damaging your child for life. And if you really need help, 0.99

01:05:18.000 ask for help. Okay. People will help you, but, but this, this is really ridiculous. So anyway,

01:05:23.920 I love that clip. I might watch it again later just for fun because just everybody's emotions

01:05:29.840 were so perfect. Ooh. Okay. So you guys listen, we'll be back tomorrow. Um, Owen, thanks for

01:05:37.500 today. And Marcella, we look forward to seeing you tomorrow. And, um, let's say thank you to

01:05:43.200 Scott and Shelly for allowing this show to continue. And thank you to all of you who show

01:05:48.100 up and a special shout out to my favorite beloveds who were so amazing yesterday. If you know, you

01:05:54.560 know love you guys so much and um let's have a closing sip to our beloved scott and yeah let's

01:06:01.060 stay and do an akira song too okay all right you guys to scott to scott

01:06:06.220 thanks guys bye everyone see bio

01:06:14.080 Okay. We are going to actually YouTube. I hate to do this, but all right. No, stay, stay. I just

01:06:25.680 don't want Spotify to ding us, but let's try. Let me see. What song do you guys want? I'm

01:06:34.020 looking at locals. Cha-ching. You want cha-ching? Let's do cha-ching. It's the first one I saw. 1.00

01:06:39.060 Let's go.

01:06:44.080 it's not music it's music plus how do you like being criticized you hate it don't you

01:06:54.960 don't you hate getting criticized everybody it's not something you enjoy

01:07:01.600 here's a reframe for you every criticism you receive

01:07:06.400 Just play this sound effect when you get it.

01:07:10.400 Ready?

01:07:12.400 Catching

01:07:16.400 Catching

01:07:20.400 Catching

01:07:22.400 Catching

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01:07:30.400 Catching

01:07:32.400 Every time somebody criticizes you, you just made money.

01:07:37.100 Do you know why I say that?

01:07:39.420 Because you just made money.

01:07:41.900 It's true.

01:07:43.160 If somebody criticizes my live stream, and I'll tell you, the biggest criticism I'm hearing is that my shelves are boring.

01:07:51.800 Now, do I feel good that you're telling me that there's something about my thing that I do every day isn't good?

01:07:59.900 No.

01:08:00.420 Nobody likes to be criticized

01:08:03.240 It's not like you can enjoy it

01:08:05.340 But how do I receive it?

01:08:08.240 Do I receive it as 1.00

01:08:09.440 Oh, I guess I suck 1.00

01:08:11.620 I could 1.00

01:08:12.800 Right? How easily could I receive

01:08:15.480 A criticism like that as 1.00

01:08:16.840 God, I'm an idiot 1.00

01:08:18.460 Why did I see it? Obviously those shells 1.00

01:08:21.040 Need something on them

01:08:22.180 That'd be real easy, wouldn't it?

01:08:24.280 I don't

01:08:24.960 Here's how I hear it

01:08:27.880 I know exactly what to change to do a better job.

01:08:51.180 Because you told me, that's like money.

01:08:53.360 If somebody hands you a thing that will definitely make you money, what is your feeling about it?

01:09:00.540 Do you feel, oh, I hate it when people give me a thing that makes me make money?

01:09:07.120 Well, most of you think exactly that.

01:09:09.660 You think, I hate criticism.

01:09:12.080 Not me.

01:09:13.640 Years ago, when people would criticize my comic, I would hate it, of course.

01:09:19.840 But then I would say, oh, a lot of people are saying the same thing.

01:09:23.360 So I'll change it. And then I would make that change. And that made me rich. I literally got rich by being criticized and understanding the criticism as...

01:09:37.360 Trudgy, trudgy, trudgy, trudgy, trudgy, trudgy, trudgy, trudgy, trudgy, trudgy.

01:10:00.340 Every time I hear one I say, wait a minute, you just told me how to get richer.

01:10:04.960 The same applies if you're not trying to get rich.

01:10:07.200 Suppose you just wanted a better social life.

01:10:09.660 The best advice somebody gave me was the cruelest thing anybody ever said.

01:10:13.800 One day, my female friend told me how negative I am.

01:10:16.240 And what a bummer it was to listen to because I was complaining about stuff all the time.

01:10:20.420 Now, I was not aware that I was a big complainant.

01:10:23.300 I had no idea.

01:10:24.320 I thought I was a person who talked about my dad and the funny parts of it.

01:10:27.760 So in my mind, I had no idea that I was having an effect on other people.

01:10:32.240 Once I learned that, do you know how powerful that was?

01:10:35.560 I was able, because it was something I could change,

01:10:38.180 I would become aware of the ratio of negative things I said to positive.

01:10:41.640 Cha-ching!

01:10:42.500 It was probably the most important change I've ever made to my social toolbox.

01:10:48.260 I would say that that one change really, really changed my life.

01:10:55.040 Cha-ching!

01:10:59.500 Cha-ching!

01:11:00.180 Catching

01:11:02.500 Catching

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01:11:09.660 Catching

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01:11:30.180 that's the that's the reframe so the next time you get criticized whether personally

01:11:37.900 or whether professionally say to yourself

01:11:42.360 just try it like actually say that that little uh sound

01:11:51.440 not figuratively i'm not talking figuratively i mean actually saying that

01:12:00.180 Cha-ching, y'all. Cha-ching. I love it. Love it. Love it. Always pick the right song. Maybe

01:12:22.520 there is no wrong song. Maybe that's the key. It's, uh, always the right one. All right, you

01:12:29.900 guys, thank you so much for today and we'll be back tomorrow and, uh, say your goodbye. So I

01:12:36.000 don't cut you off and, uh, love when Joel comes on to you guys. Um, the book's going to be

01:12:42.400 fantastic. He picked the perfect person. Scott picked the perfect person to write it. And, uh,

01:12:48.460 I'm sure it feels daunting to him, but it's going to be amazing. It is. It is. Crusher.

01:12:54.760 All right, guys. I see all your comments. You guys have the best, best day. Andy Wang,

01:13:01.240 Dr. Von Hardy, Goldie, Mary Kay, Jim Courtney in Alaska. Love you guys. Thanks, Bart.

01:13:09.940 Julie. Julie and EJ going at it today.

01:13:13.420 not pithy not pithy that wasn't a lisp

01:13:18.660 and where's terry bye you guys bye patty

01:13:28.640 oh thanks goldie

01:13:32.460 bye linda

01:13:44.140 Bye from Frank and Pleasanton. Had to shout you out. Now I got to wait again. See, I can't,

01:13:48.700 I can't quit you guys. Bye nefarious. Bye guys. Bye guys. I see every single one of you. Bye,

01:13:57.440 bye, bye.

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