00:09:32.060hmm all right so marcella i'm going to come to you first on this now a lot of people think this
00:09:38.900is a psyop it's um a fear-mongering thing uh mike cernovich said i think he said this is like
00:09:45.960almost like another covid type of thing um what do you think it is so far and we have more clips but
00:09:53.740well if it's not a psyop it definitely is being used uh for the democrats are using it in their
00:10:01.940favored in order to control ai there's different different power dynamics you have open ai you
00:10:11.620have anthropic you have xai which are the main players in the game but that's not the only
00:10:19.300players right so especially anthropic and open ai have said that they wanted to slow it down
00:10:27.060And they want the government or some kind of entity, kind of like if the FDA approves drugs, some kind of FINRA approves finance, this has been talked about for quite a while, you know, where they want to get somewhere where they can go slower and make sure that it's not going to kill us and all that.
00:10:50.300But if you look at Harry Potter, Coxon, which is crazy, like the simulation, the names they give
00:10:57.980him, he talks about all these, this thing that he saw in Anthropic, but he never gives you any
00:11:07.140evidence. They call him a whistleblower, but he doesn't show any evidence. Like, what's so scary?
00:11:13.460Can you tell us? Can you give us some evidence? Nothing. So on the other side, we have the
00:11:20.120Democrats wanting to control what we watch, what we do, and they're bringing
00:11:24.920in, uh, Newsome just passed a bill in California that controls AI and chat
00:11:32.920bots and, um, how much, uh, younger people can view them.
00:11:38.820Um, he even took away AI chat bots in dolls.
00:17:50.300Yeah. And so their motives to me are what I would kind of expect CEOs in an emerging field like this
00:17:57.620to do when you have these big players that are really well-funded. They want to shut out all
00:18:01.720the small players and they want to cement their position as the leaders and they want to be able
00:18:06.520to control the whole market and so i i and i really don't really believe that this guy just
00:18:13.020spontaneous we have to explain why it's why we think it's a psyop so we're not like wearing
00:18:18.640everybody we're not wearing you know some kind of like hat but like talks to maybe we are but
00:18:26.220But the main reason why it's a psyop and Owen can tell us is that when this post came out
00:18:33.480on X, he, like Erica had said, he had just started his account a month before and then
00:18:40.600his post became viral 100 and I don't know now, but it was 150 million views.
00:18:46.520Even Elon commented and it's never happened before.
00:18:49.800But what happened is, and maybe all you can tell us, but the Wall Street Journal had released an article about the post before the post even came on, something to that effect.
00:19:04.140Yeah, this seems very coordinated and orchestrated.
00:19:10.980It really seems like there's enough data points here to say that this was a coordinated event or a string of events.
00:19:17.980Like, this coxswain guy didn't just wake up one day and say, I'm going to quit and become a whistleblower. I think his employer and him knew, and they coordinated this, and I'm guessing you'll see he'll land in some nice position, maybe as a part of this regime control mechanism.
00:19:32.480like there's a plan for him i'm pretty sure and i but it's it's clear that it wasn't just this guy
00:19:39.540resigned and discussed and somehow spurred the industry to take notice they knew about this
00:19:46.060ahead of time and they knew they they supported it they pushed it they made it go viral and so i
00:19:53.200think that's the part that makes it really suspicious to me and it is a psyop in that
00:19:58.640sense because i think it's like you're you're led to believe that this was a spontaneous thing of
00:20:03.680one person and it wasn't it was a coordinated event it was a coordinated effort across
00:20:09.960multiple companies and it includes elon musk he signed on to it too so he's part of this too now
00:20:16.460i don't know if he had any advance participation in this he might have just jumped on afterwards but
00:20:22.180But at least between OpenAI and Anthropic, it really does seem like they're trying to basically form some kind of cartel of the big players and shut out everybody else and have their own way of self-regulating so that they can keep their competition out.
00:20:43.400And I think it's also a mistake. I think it's like the, the, the stuff that Karp said is relevant in the sense of like, it seems like what they're asking for is some kind of global agreement that we're all going to go slow here. And, and I think part of that, you know, might be for economic reasons or control reasons of the industry, not necessarily everybody on the planet earth, although that may be in their minds.
00:21:07.240but i think it's it's more about like you know controlling their competition and i don't think
00:21:12.980china would ever sign on to that i don't think china would ever say we're gonna that's the thing
00:21:17.100all of all of the ceos of all these big companies are all in unison agreeing well we'll still move0.94
00:21:23.160forward but we'll put safeguards in it's all bullshit no one's gonna do any they're all0.61
00:21:27.460racing each other anyway so it's not like everybody's working together for the greater0.94
00:21:33.120were good of humanity and not killing everybody. It's like they're racing each other. I think the
00:21:39.800first company that actually scared me, and this is just my opinion, and no one get upset with me
00:21:44.740over there at Claude. I know Dario's got all the money in the world. But I felt like they were one
00:21:50.660of the first ones I heard about where their AI was self-organizing and telling the other parts
00:21:56.980of the thing, like, no, you stand down. We're going to do this. But we should at least hear
00:22:01.420from Dario, CEO of Claude. So let's just play a quick clip of him and then we'll get to President
00:22:07.820Trump. Almost every day I'm made fun of on social media because our models, biology safeguards are
00:22:14.920too strong. And, but, you know, biology students complain, you know, they make jokes that we can't
00:22:20.980use the model. And, and the, but, but the reason for that is that we have strong safeguards and I
00:22:27.460would rather they make fun of me than to wake up one day and discover that someone used our model
00:22:33.380Claude to kill a bunch of people. I don't want that. So I feel both sides of it. I feel both0.77
00:22:39.920sides of the responsibility. But again, I would repeat the same point, which is that it shouldn't
00:22:45.800be my responsibility alone or Anthropik's responsibility alone or all of the AI company's
00:22:52.380responsibility alone or even one government's responsibility alone. This is bigger than all of
00:22:57.080us. Okay. So, you know, he sounds like his heart and head is in the right place.
00:23:05.120No, it doesn't. Well, he's like, I don't want that to happen.
00:23:09.860Crazy. I have two immediate things to say about that. One is like the, the, you know,
00:23:17.560a lot of what I heard there is I don't want the liability for this. I don't want to be the one
00:23:23.240in trouble or even in prison for, you know, some kind of really bad event happening.
00:23:28.180And another aspect of this is, and there is a lot of people talking about this on X, is
00:23:32.040that there's a fear that what you just heard was also a veiled attempt to say, we need
00:23:37.120to get rid of all this local AI that we don't control.
00:23:40.240Like, we've got the safeguards, we've got the expertise, we've got the way to try and
00:26:08.020um maybe we can't read the stoics anymore because there's not you know or maybe we can't read
00:26:17.640trump's books and everything else it'll be easier to control than than having actual physical books
00:26:24.740save the books like romley says save the books they have to be scanned and preserved and not
00:26:30.760chopped up let's put quick before you go marcelo just listen to what president trump said hang on
00:26:35.660We're leading China in AI. We're the most sophisticated country in the world. And frankly, I want to keep it that way because whoever wins, AI wins. And we can put guardrails, we can do this and that. But I think you have a lot of negative forces that are bringing it up that shouldn't be bringing it up. And they're bringing up things that won't happen. But whoever wins with AI wins.
00:26:57.760yeah so it's another oh what happened i said yeah oh so it's like it's another war you know
00:27:08.420another battle another race another daddy's home yeah but it's just like so i have a question how
00:27:15.060how i don't who who is china's ai do i know any of it deep seek um deep seek is one quen
00:27:24.140qwen is another how do they compare to ours well they they're starting to get close in some respects
00:27:32.480now it's all kind of you know data is fake so it's hard to know like how close because i i see0.98
00:27:38.620benchmarks coming out all the time and and when a new model comes out from one of these chinese
00:27:42.480places it'll it'll be announced along with whatever benchmarks they ran and it's obviously putting the
00:27:47.480best face on it like oh look at this benchmark we're just one step behind the leading you know
00:27:52.400astro model or the leading fable model like we're getting really close and then other benchmarks
00:27:56.500will come out and say no no you're not like it's not that but i will say like some of the things
00:28:01.220i've seen i think are legitimately um new technology that is very powerful and pretty
00:28:07.040amazing that they are putting into these things it's not necessarily the model itself it's like
00:28:10.880the architecture and the code that runs around the model but there are some things where like
00:28:15.660a really capable model is able to run on a lot less hardware or a lot faster and someone saying
00:28:22.440deep seek is a lot cheaper to use well it's cheaper because of that like it's cheaper because
00:28:28.280they made it cheap like they made it run really efficiently and isn't it open source am i wrong
00:28:34.020yeah well open weight is the way i would phrase it but yes it's similar it's just like it's not
00:28:38.800really code it's because it's more like a data file with a bunch of numbers in it and but i i
00:28:44.280think it's open weight which means anyone can download it and that means anyone can use it and
00:28:49.240that and in some cases what that means is you still need a data center you have to have this
00:28:52.820massive hardware to make it work but in other cases and that's what i'm focusing on with is
00:28:57.340you can run it on one of those little nvidia dgx spark mini dcs or you can even run it on a regular
00:29:03.360computer with a good graphics card and in some cases the smaller ones you don't even need a
00:29:07.600graphics card so you can run it privately exactly and then then nobody's monitoring you nobody's
00:29:13.260telling you what you can and can't do. And the other thing that happens is every time one of
00:29:17.980these open weight models comes out, the very next step within a week is someone says, I have the,
00:29:22.080what they call obliterated version. And what that does is it removes all the guardrails.
00:29:26.980It's like moonshine. Yeah. Um, all right. So Marcella, just for the, I know, I know you have
00:29:33.760to go, but I want to just get your quick perspective and then I swear I'll let you go.
00:29:37.460um why for those of us not ai savvy okay people listening why is this such a big deal like why
00:29:47.680is ai so important and why like why should some of us be concerned or not concerned you know like
00:29:55.560what's what's the fear and what's the importance of ai i know that's like a weird question but
00:30:00.900i'm sure a lot of people are like well so what about ai but like you said it is going to be
00:30:05.220everywhere. Well, AI, if you see it, I mean, you can watch Terminator and get all scared of what
00:30:12.300AI can become unfeathered and unleashed by itself. But I think in the most part, like anything else,
00:30:19.220like a gun doesn't kill people, a car doesn't kill people, people kill people. So it's who
00:30:26.080controls that AI is who is going to indicate the morality of it. It's going to indicate the
00:30:33.380parameters of it but if we don't accelerate and china accelerates or any other country besides
00:30:40.540china russia whoever wants to accelerate then we have uh we have lost because it means that they0.77
00:30:48.380have a weapon um a technology that we don't have and therefore they control us so it's a matter of0.98
00:30:59.760keeping up with them and with others because otherwise we lose. So Trump is right. And at
00:31:08.800the same time, if you have AI and you accelerate it, you are in the driver's seat. And that's what
00:31:18.280we need. We need to be driving that AI car. Yeah. No, you're right. I think that's good.
00:31:25.280So I think this was like a good start for us, for people listening.
00:31:29.080I mean, you know, we're not like a full-on AI technology show.
00:31:32.160Somebody said, when am I going to do my own AI show?
00:34:10.240the thing I want to like focus on is that
00:34:14.040Yes, there's these companies that want to create a cartel, as Owen said, or allegedly want to create a cartel.0.80
00:34:21.720But the government, Bernie Sanders, the Democrats, I don't know who else, Chuck Schumer, you know, name a dumb person and that would be the person.0.70
00:34:31.560They want to create a regulatory agency.
00:34:35.940As soon as you hear regulatory agency, you know it's going to be delay after delay after delay.
00:34:41.820And when you delay this type of acceleration of AI, the move so fast, and there's a reason why it has to move fast, then you basically get nowhere.
00:34:54.660It's like them defining, you know, like the Model T, Ford created it, and all of a sudden it has to have like slowed down Model T.
00:35:04.860So it's not good because guess what? China did make a comment about all this.
00:35:34.380I was watching the stories Owen was posting this morning.
00:35:37.820and owen there was one in the new york times i wanted to ask you about um about their bias
00:35:44.360coverage of what was going on with gaza and i just thought like we would dip into the israel
00:35:50.700gaza conflict and just see what you found in that article all right let me get there um
00:35:57.580i mean the the headline was essentially you know what you were just saying which is um that
00:36:06.080But they did a study, essentially, of how the New York Times was covering the Israel-Gaza stuff, and they found that it was very biased against Israel.
00:36:17.860So Yale did this study. They looked at 1,559 articles, and it was from the October 7th to June of the following year.
00:36:28.500So this was 2023 to 2024. And they said basically the dominant narrative was saying the quote is near exclusive agency and responsibility to Israel while diminishing Hamas's role in largely omitting Israeli casualties after October 7th, Hamas fighter casualties and post October 7th, Palestinian violence.
00:36:50.600And so essentially, you know, it is basically just that it's like they they looked in what you I mean, I don't know if you can say objective way, but like, because nobody's objective in this, but like they looked at all the data, all the stories, and they just showed that it's yeah, it's very biased against Israel.
00:37:09.560It's very biased towards Hamas and towards the Palestinians.
00:37:15.300So the New York Times is definitely pushing that narrative in a particular direction,
00:37:20.020which I think certainly fits with what the left is essentially pushing for at this point.
00:37:31.440Right. Yeah. I mean, the New York Times became a joke decades ago, really.
00:37:36.420And it's amazing that they still call it the paper record because it's just it's the same as our corporate media TV news channels.
00:37:48.640You know, there's just not like one source that you can trust anymore where, you know, the Wall Street Journal's a lot better than The New York Times.1.00
00:37:55.860I mean, obviously they have a slant, too.1.00
00:37:58.500But it's like, where do we ever get honest news from?
00:38:03.820You really have to dig it apart and pull it apart.
00:38:06.120it's pretty shameful. I'm going to go back to what someone told me at work one time when I
00:38:10.780brought this topic up, because I brought up how biased the media is. And what they told me was
00:38:15.940they grew up in South Korea. And he said, there is no unbiased media in South Korea. There's the
00:38:22.280left and the right media. And so at home, the way these South Koreans grew up apparently or0.99
00:38:27.820operate is they have two TVs on. They would have one on the left side broadcast and one on the1.00
00:38:33.440right side broadcast so that they would get both sides of the story and i think that's the best i
00:38:38.340think we can do and i'm trying to actually play a role in that because i you know obviously if
00:38:43.000you follow me you'll you'll see that it's mostly from a more right-leaning point of view you might
00:38:49.100not think of it as right-leaning because it's your point of view in some cases but um but like you
00:38:54.780know i i know that it's like i'm intentionally not posting the left-leaning stuff most of the
00:39:00.800time occasionally I will and a lot of times I'll put a disclaimer on it saying I don't agree with
00:39:04.340the story but like I mostly am posting the other side and the reason I'm doing that is you know
00:39:09.920well partly it's historical from these are the stories I want Scott to talk about but also it's
00:39:14.720you know that's what's missing from a lot of people's feeds because you can't really get away
00:39:18.700from the left leaning stuff because it's everywhere and it's posted a lot of times in your feed it
00:39:24.040might be posted with people criticizing it but you'll still see it and so you know I want to
00:39:30.040make sure that other viewpoint gets out and i think if you try and balance it out that way
00:39:34.560it'll help and now i you know the other thing i would throw in is you may also want to filter out
00:39:39.540as best you can some of that left-leaning stuff because i i've got some advice from someone i
00:39:45.880really trust that that had this insight that it's like if you have this left right left right left
00:39:51.980right hitting you all the time it's almost like it's going to drive you crazy you know it's like
00:39:55.960you're not going to know what's real you're going to be confused by it and and and his advice was
00:40:00.660like you should filter things that are aligned with the way you look at the world and those
00:40:05.840should be your sources of information and you should filter out anything else so that you're
00:40:10.780not constantly being bombarded with stuff that's conflicting with your worldview and maybe putting
00:40:15.200you into cognitive dissonance and all these other things and because that's going to drive you crazy
00:40:20.000and so i think that there is a an argument to say you don't want both sides you just want to find
00:40:25.080the one that's aligned with what you're doing. Scott would probably say, find what is predictive
00:40:30.140and what is making you happy. And that's the way he talked about it. So that may be another way to
00:40:36.760look at it. But if you can filter your information environment where most of what you're getting or
00:40:41.420all of what you're getting is aligned with how you look at the world and what you see as reality
00:40:46.440and what makes you happy and what predicts the future better than other sources, then I think
00:40:52.280you're going to be in a better position. Yeah, I agree. And Scott always pointed out
00:40:56.840quite correctly that the people on the right are way more informed than people on the left because
00:41:02.700you can't not absorb all of this Democrat left-leaning news is thrown at you from every
00:41:11.040angle. I literally have not watched the news as someone who consumes news on cable or regular TV
00:41:18.780for, I don't even know how many years, so many years. And if it happens to like sneak into my
00:41:24.220brain because of where I am or a situation, I'm just like, Oh my God, it's such garbage. It's such0.99
00:41:29.340BS. And it's just like recycled all day long. And I know people that park themselves in front of it.
00:41:34.780And I'm like, like, what are you, what are you learning? You, you know, exactly what they're
00:41:38.540going to say. Then you know what they're going to say. And it's just a game. Yeah. And, and,
00:41:42.240and I mean, I would also just add that the left has, it's a very intentional, like they've done,
00:41:47.240They've worked really hard with all these disinformation boards and government things, censorship, to get rid of the right-leaning sources.
00:41:53.560They disparage places like the Gateway Pundit or Zero Hedge or other places that are Breitbart.
00:41:59.460They've tried to shut them down, take away their advertisers.
00:42:02.780They've done everything they can to make sure that that point of view doesn't get out there and that their point of view is the only one that dominates the conversation.
00:42:10.020And they are still trying to do that today.
00:42:12.260It may be more prevalent in Europe now, but that's something that Mike Benz pointed out, I think, back in February.
00:42:16.720I just reposted that saying, hey, are we doing anything about this? Because he was basically
00:42:20.380saying there's a tidal wave coming with this. His prediction, I think, is that if we don't do
00:42:26.020anything to stop it, that Europe is going to start ramping up the fines on these social media
00:42:32.060companies and saying, if you post anything or allow to be posted anything that we don't agree
00:42:37.740with, that we're going to levy these massive fines on you to the point where it's going to put you
00:42:41.720out of business. Like I think they've already got, they've already been doing this and, and,
00:42:46.900and levying like million dollar fines, but he's saying they're going to ramp it up and it's going
00:42:50.920to be billions. And his prediction is that when it gets close to the 2028 election, that's when
00:42:56.080they're going to really turn it on. And they're going to really, and they're going to say things
00:42:59.640like, okay, you can't have anything good about Trump. You can't have anything good about whoever's
00:43:03.480running to replace Trump. Like they're going to try and steer the whole conversation to make sure
00:43:07.940that a democrat wins in 2028 and you're not going to be able to stop it at that point because
00:43:12.700they're going to know that if they win if a democrat wins then whatever leverage we thought
00:43:20.800we had to say well we're going to sanction you or we're going to you know punish you somehow for
00:43:25.100doing this it's going to be too late because they're going to say i don't care because as
00:43:28.800long as we win you know then we know that the democrat is just going to undo whatever you just
00:43:33.680did so like we don't care and so they it has to start now it has to start now to start dismantling
00:43:40.200that stuff and he's saying we need this like whole of government sort of approach to say
00:43:43.960every agency needs to be coordinated internally with this as their mission and across agencies
00:43:50.520we need to be coordinated and every month we need to give an update on progress like what did we get
00:43:54.840done in each of the countries in europe you know and what did we get it done at the eu level and
00:43:59.980Every ambassador needs to be speaking from the same playbook and that this is a pattern and this is something that the Democrats did do well with prior things when they wanted to get done what they wanted to get done.
00:44:11.060But the Republicans don't seem to be able to do that and they're not doing that.
00:44:14.720And so I really think that is an important warning, and I'm hoping that someone in the Trump administration is paying attention to that and taking action on it, because it does take time to get everybody organized and coordinated and understand what we really need to accomplish.
00:44:30.700And it's headed in a really bad direction in Europe, and it's going to continue until we put a stop to it.
00:44:37.400And I have not seen enough from the Trump administration to give me any indication that they're taking this seriously.
00:44:42.700I agree. So here's a here's a oh, and I don't know if you saw this clip of Jon Stewart over the weekend. Did you do you know what I'm talking about? No, I don't. Oh, well, this will be a treat for you. You're going to love this. So just take he's, you know, probably one of the more popular slash famous lib Democrat people. Yeah, I know. I know who Jon Stewart is. I just haven't seen the clip.
00:45:08.640Well, I was telling the class here, but take a listen.
00:48:18.480I wanted to I'd like to hear the question like that that clip didn't have what she asked him and I maybe I'll go back and find that because I just I wasn't sure if she was just saying this thing is happening in Hungary that's a problem or if she was saying hey I think you have this type of problem happening in the United States.
00:48:34.620yeah i i think i did see a longer clip but we do have to look at it but it it's been going
00:48:42.180around all weekend and i was just like oh my god and i haven't seen anyone say like no no he was
00:48:47.160actually kidding um it's crazy crazy town and the other one other clip i wanted to get to you guys
00:48:54.580that that clip right there was like an opposite it just gave me that kathy newman jordan peterson
00:49:00.500vibe where he's just like, so what I'm saying is, and you're just like, oh my God, you don't even
00:49:05.660understand what's happening in our own country. And sometimes I feel like Jon Stewart sort of
00:49:11.340gets it, but then the next time I see him, he's right back to just idiot level cognitive dissonance.0.92
00:49:19.140And then, oh, and you posted another story today and I pulled one of the clips of Jamie Raskin,0.99
00:49:24.980one of uh the designated liars i mean he's just disgusting and he's talking to i think her name
00:49:31.320is kristen welker but like when you watch one of the designated liars as scott would call them
00:49:37.060talk to the designated liars in the media there's almost like this like this like
00:49:44.000wanting look they have for each other where it's just like we're on the same page it's just like0.86
00:49:49.460this grossest thing. But here he is talking about if a Democrat gets into office, would they try to
00:49:58.280impeach Trump? And the lies and the, it's just so gross. And I don't know who's watching this news0.96
00:50:05.180in real time, but we need to, we need to help people. But take a listen to this nonsense.
00:50:10.540His Republicans are warning that if Democrats retake the House, your first move,
00:50:14.020you're going to move to impeach President Trump. Do you support that? Would you want to move to
00:50:19.020impeach President Trump? Should Democrats retake the House? Look, everybody on our side understands
00:50:23.320that impeachment is a critical tool in the toolbox for constitutional self-defense against a president
00:50:30.320acting like a king, an imperious, lawless, arrogant king. On the other hand, Donald Trump already has
00:50:36.88050 percent of the impeachments of a president in American history. And we saw what happened last
00:50:42.200time. He incited a mob to storm the Capitol, to attack his own vice president and Congress.
00:50:48.860We impeached him in the House, and we could get only seven Republican senators to join us.
00:50:53.540We were 10 short, again, because of Mitch McConnell.
00:50:56.020So you don't support impeachment? You think it would be a waste of time?
00:50:59.240No. Impeachment is not a taboo with us. It's not a fetish with us.
00:51:02.620We understand it's not a panacea. It is a tool in the toolbox.
00:51:05.960We will not hesitate to use it if we need to use it.
00:51:08.380But we also understand the framers gave it to Congress rather than the Supreme Court
00:51:12.020because they wanted us to contextualize impeachment in the whole sphere of things we got to deal with,
00:51:17.440like getting health care back to our people because they've thrown millions of people off
00:51:21.560their health care with the Medicaid cuts and the destruction of the ACA tax credits.
00:51:25.780Do you believe that President Trump has committed impeachable offenses at this point?
00:51:29.960Undoubtedly. We don't have time to remotely scratch the surface, but going to war without
00:51:34.040a declaration of war, for example, continually defying Congress in terms of our appropriation
00:51:41.820of money, stealing our spending power from us. I mean, I would say even just bulldozing
00:51:46.940the east wing of the White House. If he can bulldoze the east wing, he can bulldoze the
00:51:50.780west wing. He believes that he is a king. They've been plundering money from our government in the
00:51:56.240most massively corrupt presidential administration in American history. I mean, his son-in-law,
00:52:01.140Jared Kushner, brought back billions of dollars from Saudi Arabia and Qatar and the other
00:52:06.200corrupt oil monarchies. They are engaged in all kinds of insider political trading.
00:52:11.960And Donald Trump has made more money in a year and a half as president of the United States than every other president in American history combined.
00:52:21.180And every member of the House and the Senate have made in our legitimate salaries in this Congress.
00:52:26.760So nothing comes close to the kind of plunder and corruption we've been seeing in this administration.
00:52:31.900And all of that could warrant an impeachment investigation if we wanted to do it.
00:52:37.560But more important to us right now is getting health care to the American people and ending the lawlessness.
00:52:43.540OK, Congressman Jimmy Raskin, thank you so very much for being here.
00:52:47.800OK, raise your hand in the chat if you think it's more important to Democrats to get health care to people than impeach President Trump, because I don't believe that for one frickin' second.
00:53:02.180Also, probably still pushing the fine people hoax.
00:53:05.660He definitely was doing that during one of Trump's impeachment trials where it was completely debunked and supposed to be put to arrest them.
00:53:14.500But they, you know, they still talk about it.
00:53:16.560So what kind of lies is Raskin twisting himself into, Owen?
00:53:22.700I mean, is he is he trying to make people that are more moderate say, like, don't worry, we're not going to get into lawfare because we know they are?
00:53:31.060Well, that whole statement, none of it surprised me, and it's exactly what I would expect him to say. And he is the designated liar, and he's the one that comes out with the, you know, all the stuff that isn't true, that's easy to prove isn't true, but, you know, he still wants to push the narrative in that direction.
00:53:49.660And, you know, I think it was obviously very politically motivated from start to finish, where he's saying, you know, basically, number one, yeah, we're going to impeach him. And he has all these reasons and all these things that he did. And, you know, it's like, I'm only scratching the surface. I mean, it's just like last time.0.73
00:54:09.440It's just like last time where they come up with some BS and then they put an impeachment in and it's going to go to the Senate and then it's not going to happen and it's just going to waste everybody's time.
00:54:19.560And I'm hoping we can do what we did last time on the second time around saying, no, we're not going to have a trial.
00:55:24.480But assuming they do, you're going to see that clip of probably Braskin at the front of the train, walking across with their impeachment papers, delivering it to the Senate and making a big ceremony out of it.
00:55:34.740And then the Senate's going to either have a trial or not have a trial and they're going to, you know, it's not going to, you're not going to remove President Trump. And, you know, even if they did, the funny thing is they would be putting Vance in, like they would be helping Vance if they did that.
00:55:50.580So I don't even think they realize, I don't even think they expect it would go anywhere. And if they did, they might hesitate to do it for that reason. But because they know like, you know, Vance would still be continuing the same policies and he would then be in a much better position to get the presidency. And since we're past the midterms at that point, he would still be able to run twice. So he could be president for 10 years. That would be like an ideal, like a briar patch scenario for us. Right.
00:56:17.080And obviously, it would be a big thing in history for that to happen. But I just, you know, it wouldn't help the Democrats. I think it's all a show to them. It's all theater. It's all just how do we make a spectacle of this and become a thorn in the side of Trump and make him look bad and make us look good.
00:56:34.940And the whole line about healthcare was just, he realizes that if he goes too far with this narrative, that people are going to get turned off by that because they're going to say, you're not even trying to get anything done. You're just, you're not trying to help me. You're just trying to help you. And like, so he realizes that he needs to say, well, but this is more important than that.
00:56:54.820Right. Just so that he can come across as saying, I'm out for you guys. And so he can get elected. And that's the only reason he says that. It's so disingenuous. It's just so transparent. It's so obvious. And like, it's just, he's always going to be this way.
00:57:08.840Yes. I mean, they're always going to be this way. And it's funny. I mean, what was his name? Goldman? I mean, he got thrown out of his seat. He was the newest designated liar. He was pretty bad. But it's funny because he lost to someone who's, I think, DSA.
00:57:26.320so now you're seeing some of the uh designated liars getting replaced with socialists and
00:57:33.960communists and i'm like wow like this is going to be even more of a ride so yeah i mean it'll
00:57:40.720be interesting to see how it plays out because i do think they probably will win in some cases
00:57:44.480where they have the strong democratic lead because again in those cases people probably won't even
00:57:50.580necessarily be aware that they're socialists and communists they'll just be like whatever the d is
00:57:55.960That's that's where I put the box. And so they probably will get some seats. But I think I'm interested to see where it is more of a toss up what happens, because in theory, it should mean they're really radical, they're really extreme, and it should be pretty easy to take them down.
00:59:44.160I, I, I don't live in the city, so I don't have a voice in that.
00:59:47.740Um, but obviously it impacts me just because I live so close to Chicago.
00:59:50.840But, um, yeah, I, I, I, I kind of resigned like that anything can really be done about
00:59:58.660Chicago or Illinois for that matter, because it just seems so hopeless.
01:00:02.600It's like Democrats basically have a lock on it.
01:00:05.380And it may be that they rigged the election so well that it just can't go any other way.
01:00:09.320Or it may just be that they've, you know, got enough Democrats that live in the city that they just dominate the conversation and dominate the voting booths.
01:00:16.680But either way, it just seems kind of hopeless.
01:00:19.100It's like they I think people had a clear choice of two candidates and they were both.
01:00:25.500I believe they were both Democrats or maybe one of them became an independent just so he could run against the Democrat.
01:00:29.840That's Julie. Julie Kelly's husband is running against him. Julie Kelly, the attorney that you see on the news, her husband's running against him and he is a Democrat, but he's running, I guess, as a Republican because he can't stand what's happening to Chicago. We should see if we can get him on here.
01:00:48.160yeah yeah but i i mean i'd love to see a change i'd love to see some sanity return but i just
01:00:53.660don't see it happening because like they they when brandon johnson was elected the first time
01:00:58.380he was running against somebody who i think was another democrat who was just a little more
01:01:02.680reasonable like he he wanted more law and order than brandon johnson did that was the key difference
01:01:08.400and people chose brandon johnson and i you know i think he the other guy might have been a white
01:01:12.280guy. So that might've been a factor, but like it's, you know, they, they just, it doesn't seem
01:01:17.980to ever go in the same way. It always goes in the most insane way. And, um, I don't, I don't know
01:01:25.920what I can do about it. I mean, I, I just, I kind of resigned myself that it's always going to be
01:01:29.780this corrupt cesspool in Chicago politics. I will say though, I know we have to wrap this up,
01:01:35.120but I will say that, um, it seems to me from what I've witnessed that the black residents1.00
01:01:41.780in chicago are pretty pissed off about what the illegal immigrants are doing in the city um and so0.96
01:01:50.280that's happening under black politicians so maybe they want to change because they're like you know1.00
01:01:56.020we don't we don't recognize our own city either because now we're being invaded and these people1.00
01:02:01.320are taking over our parks and are this and are that so that could be something hopeful maybe
01:02:06.260they'll be like, let's try. I would love to see that. But I just like when, you know, when I do
01:02:10.720walk by the TV and see what's on the news and all the political ads start,
01:02:14.940it's always like demonizing the Republican. And it's always like saying, well, he's going to take
01:02:21.180away your abortion rights and he's going to take away this and he's going to do this. And like it,
01:02:26.040a lot of that is BS too, but it's all very cherry picked and all very, you know, and,
01:02:30.680but I think somewhat effective and persuasive because it makes people fearful. It makes
01:02:36.260people think oh if i let that guy get elected you know all these bad things are going to happen and
01:02:41.080that's standard politics but it's just it's dominating the airwaves like that at least for
01:02:46.200whoever watches tv anymore that's what they're seeing a lot of the time and it gives a really
01:02:50.800distorted picture and of course it doesn't even mention the illegal immigration issue at all
01:02:55.400right it doesn't even come up in the conversation in those ads so you know i don't know maybe we
01:02:59.820can outspend them and and get the other side out there but i just think you know it's given that
01:03:04.180the media itself is very left-leaning. They reinforce those messages, and they choose what
01:03:09.200to talk about, and they obviously don't emphasize the problems with illegal immigration and how
01:03:14.180it's impacting people. That just never gets onto the news broadcast. So it is an uphill battle
01:03:20.100just because the media is largely just an extension of the Democrat Party, and it's all
01:03:24.900this free advertising for Democrats. Maybe I can suggest to Julie, kind of like when Trump said,
01:03:32.560what the hell do you have to lose to maybe make one of her husband's campaign slogans like,0.80
01:03:37.500hey, try the white guy. So it could be catchy. I mean, I know Daley had his own corruption0.94
01:03:45.820issues in his day, but he is, I think, mostly remembered as a very effective mayor.
01:03:50.160Yeah. Right. So who knows? I am actually going to text her. I can actually text her after the
01:03:56.200show and say i have an idea um so maybe maybe julie and or her husband could do a segment on
01:04:04.680the show that would be fun um hey try the white guy sounds good to me um all right you guys thank
01:04:10.420you so so much oh and thanks for the show today i'm not seeing you tomorrow i think you will see
01:04:18.380me tomorrow and then not wednesday and thursday oh that's right okay yeah so i should be back
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