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00:01:00.880 all right we are live there's somebody good morning everyone there's someone on locals

00:01:07.520 if i'm like a few seconds late who is it i forget but they'll write in all as one word

00:01:13.360 werica like where's erica i was like that's cute okay good morning everyone he's getting in

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00:01:42.280 fast it's crazy uh but right it's like oof and i haven't really looked forward to a friday

00:01:52.120 in so long meaning like my job was just always like whenever wherever but now with the scott

00:01:59.700 adams school like monday through friday i have like a committed thing which i love but i'm like

00:02:04.280 oh my god it's friday and it's like the end of the week i feel like i wasn't clocking the calendar

00:02:09.060 before oh but here we are here we are all right so slowly turning erica into a nine to fiver

00:02:16.880 it's terrible like that oof somebody said oh so do you have like a lunch hour i'm like

00:02:23.080 lunch hour no one's had a lunch hour in 30 years like what is that oh my goodness oh and do you

00:02:30.340 get a lunch hour i don't no not really i mean i i think it's i think this the general

00:02:36.180 thought is like eight to five is the normal work day in most clients we deal with at least but in

00:02:42.720 consulting it's all driven by what the client's doing and in my case and this is probably most

00:02:49.080 of the time now because there's so many people working remote but like i have people in every

00:02:53.600 time zone every time zone like all over the world but but it's even in the u.s it's like i've got

00:02:59.240 people on the west coast and the east coast and in the central and so there's no one lunch hour

00:03:05.880 yeah and i've always owned businesses when you own a business it was like the blackberry was

00:03:13.500 glued to you it doesn't matter what time it is you're just on and marcella you're an attorney

00:03:18.580 so at least you get to hit the uh timer when you're working you're like oh are we discussing

00:03:23.080 am i charging for lunch since i'm talking to you yes exactly uh so you guys welcome in welcome in

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00:04:17.840 taboon divine thank you wonder if that was the cabana nomination i yeah uh yeah probably was

00:04:28.860 thinking about i'm not sure what year that's right i think it's never mind oh when you're

00:04:33.840 going to distract me now i'm like who could it have been it could have been this one or that one 0.52

00:04:37.100 that was such a clown show though i mean it was like such a ridiculous spectacle

00:04:41.740 it was so sad i was so sad for kavanagh and his family i was just like wow how 0.99

00:04:46.740 terrible anyway we can really be jerks can't we but i remember a time when we all came together

00:04:52.880 And that was 25 years ago today, you guys. 0.87

00:04:56.480 So, you know, let's talk about it for a minute here, at least.

00:05:00.280 You know, it's September 11th.

00:05:02.160 It's the 25th anniversary of the terror attack that changed our world and our lives forever.

00:05:11.320 We lost almost 3,000 souls that day.

00:05:14.760 And, oh, you know, I think somewhere around 5,500 more from illnesses related to that

00:05:24.460 terror attack since.

00:05:26.220 So more people have died after because of cancers from the smoke or injuries or all.

00:05:33.360 And I know some of those people that died after.

00:05:36.040 And I know some of those people that died that day.

00:05:39.020 um and so we're just gonna you know spend the first part of the show discussing this a bit

00:05:44.900 and you know marcella was curious to know you know where we all were that day and you guys can

00:05:51.560 drop it in the chat um but i'm here i am just uh across the river from lower manhattan from where

00:06:00.120 the world trade center was and um it was the most gorgeous tuesday morning in september like as we

00:06:08.600 call it here, local summer, all the touristy, you know, summer people were gone. And it's now

00:06:13.880 like the locals get to bask in the beautiful weather. And my sister-in-law called me and she

00:06:20.640 was said, Oh my God, I got to get Andy's phone number. You know, there's no cell phones. I got

00:06:24.460 to get Andy's phone number. I said, what happened? And you know, she's like a plane hit the twin

00:06:30.900 towers. And I was like, Oh my God, like what? You know? And I didn't even know, I didn't,

00:06:35.440 I didn't think it was a little plane, a big plane. I didn't think any, I was like, I just

00:06:39.040 couldn't wrap my head around it. And then I started thinking like, Oh shit. Like you start 0.99

00:06:43.380 going through all the people I know that worked in the building or worked downtown or right there.

00:06:49.360 And so then you're, you know, kind of like in this freak out mode and I put the TV on and I

00:06:55.980 don't know who I was watching. And then the second plane hit and, you know, and then I just,

00:07:02.140 i felt like it was so fast they were like there's another one heading you know like another one hit

00:07:06.620 the pentagon and you know there's so many planes like that we can't and i was like oh my god i

00:07:11.740 remember thinking should i get under my bed like that's how crazy it felt like i felt like

00:07:17.500 all this fear i didn't know what to do i was panicked and um i just got in my car i don't

00:07:25.660 know why i like it was like i was sleepwalking i just got in my car and i drove to um a state

00:07:32.700 park here on the shore that's like really like a stone's throw from new york and i just like

00:07:38.620 walked out as far as i could onto the beach and there was other people there and i just was like

00:07:44.060 watching the buildings just smoking and burning and just like staring at i took some pictures

00:07:50.380 with my little crappy camera. I was like, what is happening? And then all of a sudden the military

00:07:56.600 was there with guns and I'm like, oh my God. And they were just like, you need to evacuate right

00:08:02.460 now, get out off the property. And so we were like, holy crap. And then it was just a cycle of 0.97

00:08:08.380 trying to find people that we knew and just feeling so sick. I mean, like I tell you guys

00:08:18.380 all the time. The smoke just started drifting across the river. It came over my house for

00:08:23.120 weeks and you could smell it. You could smell it. And there was ambulances from every town

00:08:28.660 and everywhere because the ferry in New York city lands here. So it was just bringing anybody they

00:08:35.040 could like getting them off of lower Manhattan on the ferries. Other ferries were coming in

00:08:39.560 and then it was just weeks of, you know, finding out who didn't make it. Um, funeral processions,

00:08:48.380 vigils everywhere. One town near me, it's a small town, lost 48 people in one town because this

00:08:56.940 area where I live, there's a huge majority that work in the financial district in the World Trade

00:09:04.720 Center and the like. So we lost a lot of people in my county. And I have a difficult time on this

00:09:14.220 day. Oh, and, uh, I still have PTSD from it. Um, you know, like hearing the fighter jets flying

00:09:21.900 over. Um, I do have like this weird fear when I hear an airplane that's too low, I get, I get

00:09:29.220 PTS from it. Um, but it was just the worst thing ever. I just can't even explain it for, for me.

00:09:38.900 Just, I don't know. We, we just, we lost a lot of friends and loved ones and I have a lot of

00:09:43.760 friends who lost friends. So like, you know, the friends through association, you know, it's like

00:09:49.200 hundreds and hundreds of people by like, you know, just a couple of degrees of separation

00:09:54.500 of people that die that, you know, affected us so much. So I don't know. I mean, that's kind of all

00:10:00.940 I can say about my experience of it right now, because otherwise I'll end up like sobbing for

00:10:06.740 real. So I'm going to keep it together and let's go to the middle of the country and ask Owen

00:10:12.640 where he was i was getting ready to work getting ready to go to work for my client who was united

00:10:20.860 airlines and i was working at their headquarters i was doing a project like following up on

00:10:29.760 some y2k stuff we did for them and some other things and and um the so i was getting ready

00:10:38.060 to go to united airlines headquarters and um my wife watches the news every morning and she was 0.96

00:10:45.300 actually pregnant with my fucking child and you know my younger one was maybe two at the time or 0.95

00:10:53.040 most of that and so she was watching the news and she told me hey there you know this plane hit the 0.99

00:11:00.360 twin towers and i was like wow really and i started watching the news and the footage and at that

00:11:05.540 point only one plane had hit and nobody knew what was going on and we kind of all assumed

00:11:09.060 it was an accident right we just assumed it must be some kind of accident that you know caused the

00:11:16.200 plane to go down and happened to hit the building and but we were just kind of like watching like

00:11:20.760 what's going on and then the second plane hit

00:11:24.060 so we we knew that that was you know intentional and um you know i think my first thought was just

00:11:38.580 the whole world just changed um it's like nothing has happened like that i don't know about ever

00:11:46.360 really and um so i'm sure i didn't really know what to make of it but you know immediately my

00:11:51.900 thought went to should i go to work like should i go to united and so i had to make a bunch of

00:11:59.320 phone calls and the answer was no don't go and that the headquarters was shut down and they were

00:12:05.860 down i think they shut down for like a week or two at the headquarters where they had nobody coming

00:12:10.340 to work because they didn't know what was going to happen next right they didn't know if there

00:12:12.980 were more attacks coming or you know they grounded all the planes right for a while and um so it

00:12:20.120 disrupted my life at that point immediately just because i couldn't even go to work um but uh you

00:12:27.640 know i knew that that was going to be a change i don't know if i immediately thought we're going

00:12:32.360 to war because of this but um at some point that entered my mind it might have been later but um

00:12:39.240 you know because i had i had kind of done some research back in the early persian gulf war before

00:12:45.880 it was the persian gulf war and before anybody said we're going to war i kind of predicted that

00:12:51.080 because i saw the signs and you know i think at some point i came to the same conclusion with

00:12:55.980 this but um you know it certainly was just like the whole world changed in that day and

00:13:04.820 um it was you know incredible just to witness it even if it was just on tv i know i know you

00:13:10.600 were closer to it so it was probably a much bigger thing and i don't know that i have the same ptsd

00:13:15.020 but um you know it was just a huge thing it was like that you know the world just stopped

00:13:21.240 yeah and so that I was in my house getting ready to go to United Airlines and I ended up staying

00:13:30.460 home that day and for probably a week or two after that just because you know we couldn't go

00:13:36.080 to our client um and obviously there was you know United Airlines involved in that

00:13:42.220 and so they were worried about that too and um but you know we got over it we drove on and

00:13:50.060 eventually things I don't know if they really really went back to normal but um you know we

00:13:56.660 moved on so that's where I was thanks for sharing that yeah Marcella well I'm in the I'm in

00:14:05.240 California I was in California and um I wasn't in school at the time the school had not let in so

00:14:11.380 you know i was sleeping in because it was what 5 46 when the first one in but my mom screamed

00:14:20.060 my mom of course was awake and um she screamed and she said there's an attack this is before

00:14:30.080 this is the first plane she was like there's an attack um your cousin the sheriff the la you know

00:14:38.000 my cousin who's in the sheriff's department LA sheriff's department had called the family and

00:14:44.780 had told them to get ready and we were like okay let's get ready for an attack and it brought

00:14:52.860 memories from my old country and so we were you know we were in this mode of like okay now we're

00:15:01.840 being attacked now what do we do next and it was but then i i went downstairs put on don't don't

00:15:11.200 hate me for this put on cnn and as i was putting on cnn because she screamed at like 5 46 then by

00:15:20.540 the time i got downstairs put the news on the next plane hit and we were like okay we're not going

00:15:28.780 out we're gonna like get get figure out what to do and um immediately um we were like this is

00:15:38.460 this is uh islamist or some islamic terrorist and they're not gonna say it and we'll you know

00:15:49.460 and it took a while for it to be known yeah but yeah it was uh it was so we'd never been attacked 0.66

00:15:57.780 on the homeland. Nobody knew what to do. Nobody was prepared for it. I do want to say, you know,

00:16:04.980 so during that first day, you know, we were just waiting to get phone calls to find out like if

00:16:11.320 certain friends, you know, that like we grew up with made it back or not. I mean, there were

00:16:15.420 the miracle stories of like, you know, my friend who was like, oh my God, it is such a gorgeous

00:16:22.680 day. I'm playing hooky today and I'm going to do local summer and like didn't go in for whatever

00:16:27.100 reason you're like thank god or you know like the uh who was it that you know took their their child

00:16:33.940 to kindergarten and his whole entire company died um but you know he took his kid to the first day

00:16:40.720 of kindergarten and um was that canner fitzgerald you guys i'm sorry if i forget but then we have

00:16:47.440 a lot of um our friends and family here are firemen they all headed in on buses they met at

00:16:54.940 like a giant stadium. It was called their MetLife stadium. And they got on buses and went into New

00:17:00.040 York and they were part of like digging out the rubble and trying to rescue people. And like,

00:17:05.000 then you're like, so worried about them. And you're like, what's happening there? And, you know,

00:17:08.700 then they would come back and have to be decontaminated and go through this process.

00:17:12.600 And, um, my one friend died a couple of years ago, his nickname was digger and he worked in

00:17:19.860 new york um he lived here but he worked in new york and he operated the massive massive massive

00:17:26.120 machinery like the giant bulldozers and earth moving uh machines and he died from cancer related

00:17:33.700 to that process he was there for a year cleaning up um and you know left behind some children my

00:17:41.320 my other friend she's had three different cancers and i mean she looked like one of those zombie 0.85

00:17:46.980 people covered in ashes, just trying to get out of New York all day, just like head to 0.85

00:17:51.400 toe covered.

00:17:53.080 Yeah.

00:17:53.700 Howard Lutnick.

00:17:54.500 And so it was just crazy, you guys.

00:17:58.160 But, you know, I think I think we failed in our never forget, because it seems that most

00:18:07.820 people under the age of 40 don't really understand what happened that day.

00:18:13.540 And then you say, like, under 35, under 30.

00:18:16.240 these are the voting block today that have no idea of what happened and what our country was

00:18:26.100 like on september 10th versus september 12th um we all came together so hard i mean i can remember

00:18:34.260 like we would just be like driving in the car and wind windshield to windshield seeing someone

00:18:40.060 pass you here you would just give like a little smile like through your windshields it was just

00:18:44.400 like we're all going through it and we're going to be okay because we're going to stick together.

00:18:49.740 We're Americans, you know, we've got each other's backs and we were on one page. And, um, I, I've,

00:18:58.880 I've been listening to a lot of news about college kids that are like, uh, like they asked,

00:19:04.740 you know, what's September 11th, like a man on the street style interview. And they don't really

00:19:09.600 know. They're like, oh, I don't know. Wasn't it like a war or something? And you know what?

00:19:15.320 Parents, aunts, uncles, whoever you are, find someone under 35 and tell them what happened

00:19:24.740 before and after and how we came together and what the day was like and what we went through,

00:19:30.520 because it's only 25 years ago. And so I'm not saying it's about elections, but it is about

00:19:37.200 elections we now have a islamist mayor an islamist mayor in new york which makes me want to

00:19:46.760 who believes we deserve thine 11 yes that makes and we have and we have people in congress we

00:19:53.640 have a whole squad of people in congress and yes um and and i mean it just seems like people are

00:19:59.100 starting to get elected at every level they really hate this country and um are sympathetic to these

00:20:06.840 terrorists well not only that okay so um i found the root cause of suicidal empathy okay this is

00:20:16.440 why gad sad was able to write his book and we talk about all the time how you know we were told

00:20:22.320 you know don't say anything bad you know whatever um where is my clip so but while let me just pull

00:20:31.080 But while I'm pulling that, you guys, so just remember, I remember so vividly the news,

00:20:38.120 again, once again, the media in lockstep saying, don't say anything bad.

00:20:42.060 Don't talk bad about anyone.

00:20:43.780 You know, if you do, you're racist and you're mean, and we want people to feel welcome here.

00:20:48.580 First of all, we didn't need anybody to tell us how to behave.

00:20:52.220 There was no one ever running around just being nasty to people for no reason.

00:20:57.600 But telling us specifically that you couldn't say something was very odd.

00:21:02.720 But this is just, I think, yesterday or the day before, President George W. Bush talking to Condoleezza Rice about 9-11.

00:21:12.580 And here is your root cause of suicidal empathy.

00:21:16.300 I want you to talk about a couple of those events.

00:21:19.440 You talked about going to the Islamic Center and trying to make sure that our Muslim American citizens knew that we didn't blame them for what had happened. 0.52

00:21:30.580 I also made it clear that Islam was a religion of peace, not a religion of war, and that these people subverted their religion. 0.97

00:21:38.380 Yes. 0.89

00:21:39.220 I want you to talk about a couple of...

00:21:41.220 I could play it on a loop for you all day.

00:21:43.840 What? 1.00

00:21:44.580 He's still an idiot. 1.00

00:21:46.280 Is he at the Alzheimer's or what? 1.00

00:21:48.300 he's totally false it's we're gonna get into that you guys so i know so i just have a uh i mean i

00:21:57.700 did too um i just have a couple of clips i want to play for you and um they're of our president

00:22:05.600 president trump who is there and um here he is this one was from this is from wor radio which

00:22:16.480 is a big radio station here i think sean hannity and everybody are still on it um so this was him

00:22:22.980 he called in to talk to alan marcus who was a host and a friend of his um i find this very

00:22:29.480 interesting listen listen this is just to tickle those of you that need to hear a little bit of

00:22:34.480 something like this take a listen to what president trump said on 9-11 this is on the day

00:22:39.940 and debris donald you're probably the best known builder particularly of great buildings in the

00:22:47.860 city there's a great deal of question about whether or not the damage and and the ultimate

00:22:53.700 destruction of the buildings was caused by the airplanes by architectural defect or possibly by

00:22:58.580 bombs or or aftershocks do you have any thoughts on that well it was an architectural defect you

00:23:03.540 the world trade center was always known as a very very strong building don't forget that took a big

00:23:07.620 bomb in the basement now the basement is the most vulnerable place because that's your foundation

00:23:11.780 and it withstood that and i got to see that area about three or four days after it took place

00:23:17.380 because one of my structural engineers actually took me for a tour because he did the building

00:23:22.260 and i said i can't believe it the building was standing solid and half of the columns were blown

00:23:27.380 out i mean so this was an unbelievably powerful building uh if you know anything about structure

00:23:32.900 it was one of the first buildings that was built from the outside the steel the reason the world

00:23:36.660 trade center had such narrow windows is that in between all the windows you had the steel on the

00:23:41.380 outside so you're still on the outside of the building that's why when i first looked and you

00:23:45.140 had big heavy i-beams when i first looked at it i couldn't believe it because there was a hole in

00:23:50.980 the steel and this is steel that was you remember the the width of the windows of the world trade

00:23:55.860 center folks i think you you know if you're ever up there they were quite narrow and in between

00:24:00.980 was this heavy steel i said how could a plane even a plane even a 767 or 747 or whatever it

00:24:07.940 might have been how could it possibly go through the steel i happen to think that they had not

00:24:12.500 only a plane but they had bombs that exploded almost simultaneously because i just can't imagine

00:24:17.540 anything being able to go through that wall most buildings are built with the steelers on

00:24:21.620 the inside around the elevator shaft this one was built from the outside which is the strongest

00:24:26.100 structure you could have and it was almost just like a like a can of soup you know donald we were

00:24:31.780 looking at pictures all morning long of that plane coming into building number two and when you see

00:24:37.220 that uh approach the the far side and then all of a sudden within a matter of millisecond the

00:24:44.020 explosion pops out the other side right i just think that there was a plane with more than just

00:24:49.220 fuel i think obviously they were very big planes they were going very rapidly because i was also

00:24:54.900 watching where the plane seemed to be not only going fast it seemed to be coming down into the

00:25:00.420 building so it was getting the speed from going downhill so to speak uh it just seemed to me that

00:25:05.780 to do that kind of destruction is even more than a big plane because you're talking about taking

00:25:10.340 out steel the heaviest caliber steel that was used on the building these buildings were rock solid

00:25:16.260 And, you know, it's just an amazing, it's an amazing thing.

00:25:20.160 This country is different today,

00:25:24.020 and it's going to be different than it ever was for many years to come.

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00:25:33.240 Yeah, hey, who should I take in the Boston game?

00:25:35.320 Well, statistically speaking.

00:25:36.620 Nah, no more statistically speaking. 0.99

00:25:38.660 I want hot takes. 0.99

00:25:39.740 I want knee-jerk reactions.

00:25:41.320 That's not really what I do.

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00:26:14.900 that's right so i just i mean he you know he knows building so i just found that interesting

00:26:23.260 and i'm watching your comments and you guys let's do a separate show one day on building seven and

00:26:31.340 everything else because you know it it's interesting um were conspiracy theories really

00:26:38.280 a thing before 9-11 or was that what really kicked it off no think about kennedy like start

00:26:44.420 that yeah yeah I guess I mean I guess it just it seems to me like like in in the last you know

00:26:53.400 five ten years a lot of the time we have a Scott like you know conspiracy theories are kind of like

00:26:58.620 a major part of our culture like there's all these conspiracy theories about you know every

00:27:04.260 and I know it traces back even further to like Oklahoma City bombings and but I guess I you know

00:27:09.500 maybe i just wasn't on social media back then but nobody was yeah and that might be part of it but

00:27:15.820 it's like it seems to me like the moon landing owen yeah but it's just like pearl harbor i never

00:27:22.580 heard about people talking about conspiracy theories and all this stuff except my crazy

00:27:26.660 uncle well think about this cia invented the term just to be able to get away with things and label

00:27:32.760 people is crazy mk ultra the whole you know the chaos book so no it's not new we're you know what

00:27:40.020 it is we're smarter now and we we trust less and we have access to more information so we can talk

00:27:46.680 about it more yeah i just it seems to me like this was certainly something that even to this day

00:27:53.260 people have a lot of questions about and there's new stuff coming out and well yeah i do i mean i

00:27:58.800 i don't i don't know what to believe i would probably still be a skeptic about all the

00:28:03.520 conspiracy theories like i don't necessarily believe like 100 that it was an inside job or

00:28:09.800 there were bombs in the building or you know somebody mission of the the third building that

00:28:15.680 people talk about like oh there's all these theories out there right and you know who's

00:28:18.920 really behind it and then there's the truth whether we knew about it or whatever and um

00:28:24.380 it just seems to not go away and it seems to almost feed all the other conspiracy theories

00:28:29.920 about oklahoma city and you know name your conspiracy theory but um and and i think part

00:28:37.040 of it over the last five or ten years has been like a lot of these conspiracy theories tend to

00:28:41.160 seem to come true um and you know mk ultra is an example of that but i think that there's a lot

00:28:48.320 where it's like well actually that's exactly what happened and scott would often point out like you

00:28:52.520 know it's exactly what you thought like you know we kind of had this suspicion and then all of a

00:28:57.640 sudden now we're getting proof and a lot of that's coming out in the trump administration now at least

00:29:01.820 about like russi gate and you know fraud and all these other things but um i think this was just a

00:29:07.580 huge cultural moment just in terms of you know making people not trust authorities um i maybe

00:29:17.280 I mean, I think, I think a lot, a lot of them were, and I just think as our technology

00:29:23.100 improved, you know, we just got more savvy and more people woke up, but, you know, you

00:29:28.400 try to look back on, I mean, God, you could go down the rabbit hole on Martin Luther King

00:29:32.920 also.

00:29:34.060 And Elvis being alive.

00:29:36.360 Well, like, you know, there's a lot of conspiracy with Martin Luther King and a junior and,

00:29:41.880 you know was he really who they said he was and was he an asset and did they use him as a prop and

00:29:49.020 you know you hate to say those things but there's a lot of evidence that shows that so did um trump

00:29:54.480 really release the mlk files no um you know they say they're going to release these things but they

00:30:02.300 don't and you know he may have released what they had at whatever level they looked but i i think

00:30:08.580 my understanding of the MKUltra stuff

00:30:10.620 is a lot of that stuff was destroyed

00:30:12.220 intentionally to keep it from ever getting

00:30:14.440 released

00:30:14.920 maybe or shall they say

00:30:18.260 yeah

00:30:18.960 I mean it's hard to know

00:30:21.660 we did 10 hours on this stuff

00:30:23.960 the obvious question on MKUltra is just like

00:30:26.460 you know do we really believe that that sort

00:30:28.460 of thing or whatever the new version

00:30:30.420 of it isn't going on like it's always kind

00:30:32.440 of this implied message like oh this terrible

00:30:34.520 thing happened 30 years ago but we don't do any

00:30:36.500 of that anymore oh no yes we do

00:30:38.580 really yeah it's still going on under a different oh and are you saying mk ultra techniques are not

00:30:47.700 still going on i'm saying it's pretty obvious that they are but they're not going to talk about it

00:30:53.180 because the current cia obviously is all secret and they're not going to reveal it i'm just saying

00:30:58.400 it's kind of like it defies rationality to say the government was doing all these extremely

00:31:04.920 you know over the line things and then suddenly they got a conscience and now they're just totally

00:31:11.620 ethical and never do any of that so you know it's like nothing else changed about how the cia

00:31:16.760 operates or the people running it and you know i think wasn't bush even a cia director or was it

00:31:23.060 his father i can't remember his father yeah but like a lot of presidents have been cia directors

00:31:28.680 and like you know it's it's all over the place and you know then you have people like john brennan

00:31:35.420 and clapper and others that end up like media figures call me they're all part of the atlantic

00:31:42.540 council you know it's like the cia is like all over the place and it wasn't spanberger have

00:31:47.540 some kind of intelligence link to i don't know it's just like everywhere you look yeah everywhere

00:31:52.860 you look it seems like they're well then they got their tentacles in so then look at president

00:31:57.540 Trump coming on the scene and they're like, oh, hell no. He is not married to CIA. He's not one

00:32:04.080 of us. He's not in any agency. What are we going to do? And you saw how they lost their ever-loving

00:32:10.680 minds. Let me play this second clip of President Trump. Let's take a listen. And I love this. This

00:32:18.360 is NBC News in New York. He's on the street and they interview him. And oh my God, I love the

00:32:25.140 Chiron. I love how everything looked back then. So old fashioned. Here we go.

00:32:29.120 Now, just a few moments ago, Donald Trump passed through here. So we had a minute to talk with him.

00:32:34.060 Let's roll that tape. You can see what he had to say. Well, I've never seen anything like it.

00:32:39.300 I've seen two huge 110 story buildings that are reduced to rubble. Thousands and thousands of

00:32:45.420 lives. I just got to see something that I've never seen before. I have hundreds of men inside working

00:32:50.520 right now, and we're bringing down another 125 in a little while, and they've never done

00:32:55.060 work like this before.

00:32:56.420 And they're hardworking people, but they've never seen anything like it, and they've never

00:33:00.600 done work like this before.

00:33:01.880 It's terrible.

00:33:02.880 Tell me what it's like at Ground Zero.

00:33:04.840 Tell me about the workers that you saw and what they're doing there.

00:33:08.020 Well, not only is it devastation, but it's very dangerous, because every few minutes

00:33:11.820 a whistle would go off and everybody would just run, because you have all the buildings

00:33:14.900 around it, which are in such a weakened state that people just don't know.

00:33:19.100 And so they just have to take off.

00:33:20.920 And then they come back, and they're working under 50-story buildings that you don't know if they're going to fall down.

00:33:25.960 So it's a terrible thing for the workers, and it's a terrible thing for the world, really.

00:33:31.700 How have you spoken to any of your men?

00:33:33.560 Do you know how they're reacting to this?

00:33:35.060 Because emotionally, this must be so incredibly difficult.

00:33:38.100 Well, there are a lot of them, but they've never seen bodies like this.

00:33:41.100 I mean, the bodies all over.

00:33:43.320 I mean, the great thing is when they find somebody that's alive, like the five firemen that they just found,

00:33:48.760 a little while ago. So that's the great thing, and that's what they're all striving for. But

00:33:52.520 generally speaking, that's not what the case, that's not the case. So

00:33:56.060 they are working very, very hard, but it's a very depressing situation for these folks.

00:34:02.340 As you walked around and as you saw the piles of rubble, there are thousands of families out there

00:34:07.560 who are hoping that someone might be in a pocket somewhere, still alive, still breathing,

00:34:12.600 waiting to be dug up. As you assess that damage from your perspective, do you believe that's

00:34:17.280 possible? Well, I would certainly not want to be the one to say it's not possible. Certainly,

00:34:21.320 it's a tough situation, but you can't give up hope because there's always hope. I mean,

00:34:26.560 the five men, I'm sure their families thought that they probably were gone, and now they walk

00:34:30.900 in the door. A couple of them walked away after they were dug out. So there probably are some

00:34:35.860 more people in there, and therefore you can't give up hope. You've had an impact on the skyline

00:34:40.460 of New York. What is it like as you see it now? It's like a whole different skyline. It's like a

00:34:44.520 whole different city and world, I cannot believe the sight of lower Manhattan without the World

00:34:50.300 Trade Center. And therefore, we have to rebuild, not necessarily in that form, but we have to

00:34:55.520 rebuild at least as good and maybe better. Just finally, can you tell me emotionally,

00:35:00.600 as you walked around, we've heard some of the stories from the firemen. They're so exhausted

00:35:05.300 and mentally and physically. What was it like for you personally to go in and see all of what you

00:35:10.540 saw well it was amazing to see it it was a very depressing scene but I'll tell you what you really

00:35:16.400 can take heart these firemen and policemen and the construction workers equally the courage they have

00:35:21.860 is unbelievable I mean they're working digging out and lifting up steel and above them you have 55

00:35:26.680 story buildings that are very possibly going to be pouring down on them any minute and they're

00:35:30.960 working like nothing's wrong I mean it's they're amazing

00:35:33.200 he's this he's always been the same person i i've never seen him be inconsistent you know from

00:35:44.840 back in the day till till now and his feelings of um loving the country loving new york his um

00:35:53.560 compassion for the workers the country families he's you know he's a generous soul um

00:36:01.600 so uh and for anyone coming in late that did not have a sip can we just have an interstitial sip

00:36:09.800 right now before we just get into one more clip um you know let's uh let's actually let's actually

00:36:16.700 have a moment of silence which i was going to do at the beginning of the show um for all the souls

00:36:22.720 lost for the devastation you know we said never forget let's let's at least remember right now

00:36:30.560 And maybe while you're having a moment of silence, you know, pray for those people and

00:36:37.040 then think about someone that you can tell the story of 9-11 to that's a younger generation

00:36:43.680 so they can understand like we do.

00:36:47.380 OK, so let's have a moment of silence.

00:36:49.260 Thanks.

00:37:00.020 okay thanks you guys and let's let's have a toast to those souls

00:37:12.400 now one thing i wanted to do is once again this is my last clip on this today and then we're

00:37:23.520 going to move on. I want to play this very empowering clip from Bridget Gabriel that I

00:37:30.180 had played for you guys some months ago. And I will see if I can, I'll post this later too,

00:37:37.460 in case anybody wants it. So here's Bridget Gabriel, and she'll let you know what the real

00:37:44.700 deal is. To you all, my name is Saba Ahmed. I'm a law student at American University.

00:37:49.680 I am here to ask you a simple question I know that we portray Islam and all

00:37:57.960 Muslims as bad but there is 1.8 billion Muslim followers of Islam we have 8

00:38:04.360 million plus Muslim Americans in this country and I don't see them represented

00:38:09.120 here but my question is how can we fight an ideological war with weapons how can

00:38:14.640 we ever end this war the jihadist ideology that you talk about it's an

00:38:19.140 ideology. How can you ever win this thing if you don't address it ideologically?

00:38:24.900 Great question. I am so glad you're here and I am so glad you brought that up

00:38:29.400 because it gives us an opportunity to answer. What I find so

00:38:33.240 amazing is since the beginning of this panel, which we are here about

00:38:37.080 Benghazi attack against our people, not one person mentioned Muslims. We are

00:38:42.060 here against Islam or we're launching war against Muslims. We are here to 1.00

00:38:46.020 discuss how four Americans died and what our government is doing. We were not here to bash

00:38:50.900 Muslims. You were the one who brought up the issue about most Muslims, not us. And since you brought

00:38:56.500 it up, allow me to elaborate with my answer. There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world today. Of

00:39:02.740 course not all of them are radicals. The majority of them are peaceful people. The radicals are

00:39:07.920 estimated to be between 15 to 25 percent according to all intelligence services around the world.

00:39:16.020 That leaves 75% of them peaceful people. 0.79

00:39:20.400 But when you look at 15% to 25% of the world Muslim population, 0.98

00:39:24.580 you're looking at 180 million to 300 million people 1.00

00:39:28.600 dedicated to the destruction of Western civilization.

00:39:32.380 That is as big of the United States.

00:39:34.740 So why should we worry about the radicals, 15% to 25%?

00:39:39.540 Because it is the radicals that kill. 0.93

00:39:42.060 Because it is the radicals that behead and massacre. 0.68

00:39:44.600 When you look throughout history, when you look at all the lessons of history, most Germans were peaceful, yet the Nazis drove the agenda.

00:39:54.140 And as a result, 60 million people died, almost 14 million in concentration camps, 6 million were Jews. 0.60

00:40:02.280 The peaceful majority were irrelevant. 0.97

00:40:05.100 When you look at Russia, most Russians were peaceful as well. 0.84

00:40:08.460 Yet the Russians were able to kill 20 million people. 0.97

00:40:11.920 The peaceful majority were irrelevant. 0.89

00:40:14.600 When you look at China, for example, most Chinese were peaceful as well. 0.99

00:40:18.620 Yet the Chinese were able to kill 70 million people. 1.00

00:40:22.420 The peaceful majority were irrelevant. 1.00

00:40:24.780 When you look at Japan prior to World War II, most Japanese were peaceful as well. 0.99

00:40:29.560 Yet Japan was able to butcher its way across Southeast Asia, 0.90

00:40:33.940 killing 12 million people, mostly killed with bayonets and shovels. 0.99

00:40:37.980 The peaceful majority were irrelevant. 0.99

00:40:39.960 On September 11th in the United States, we had 2.3 million Arab Muslims living in the United States.

00:40:48.440 It took 19 hijackers, 19 radicals to bring America down to its knees, destroy the World Trade Center, attack the Pentagon, and kill almost 3,000 Americans that day. 0.93

00:41:00.480 The peaceful majority were irrelevant. 0.99

00:41:03.260 So for all our powers of reasons and us talking about moderate and peaceful Muslims, I'm glad you're here. 1.00

00:41:08.900 But where are the others speaking out?

00:41:11.280 And since you are the only Muslim representative... 1.00

00:41:17.900 Give me the applause till the end. 1.00

00:41:29.080 Thank you.

00:41:34.380 Thank you. 1.00

00:41:35.140 And since you're the only Muslim representative in here, you took the limelight instead of

00:41:42.520 speaking about why our government, and I assume are you an American?

00:41:46.980 You're an American citizen.

00:41:48.300 So as an American citizen, you sat in this room and instead of standing up and saying

00:41:52.140 a question or asking something about our four Americans that died and what our government

00:41:57.140 is doing to correct the problem, you stood there to make a point about peaceful moderate

00:42:02.140 Muslims. 1.00

00:42:03.140 I wish you brought ten with you to question about how we can hold our government responsible. 1.00

00:42:07.880 It is time we take political correctness and throw it in the garbage where it belongs and stop calling it safe.

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00:43:36.100 I mean, yes, she did hit that nail on the head.

00:43:39.060 The peaceful majority doesn't matter.

00:43:41.220 And let me just remind you one more time.

00:43:43.400 I want you to talk about a couple of those events.

00:43:46.580 You talked about going to the Islamic Center and trying to make sure that our Muslim American citizens knew that we didn't blame them for what had happened.

00:43:57.640 also made it clear that islam was a religion of peace not a religion of war and that these people 0.91

00:44:03.480 subverted their religion yes and i'd like to remind you that islam is not a religion it's an 0.97

00:44:10.520 ideology that is disgusting hateful and has no business being in america but that's just my 0.97

00:44:17.000 opinion um okay so that is the best reminder about what we're dealing with and by the way what she's

00:44:26.760 talking about there is another september 11th event which was benghazi so she was talking about

00:44:32.920 the attack in benghazi that killed four of our americans so um interesting and we said we'd

00:44:40.760 never forget that either so it seems you know it seems like we have a problem on our hands and god 0.53

00:44:47.320 when she talks about the numbers of islamists in our country at that time that was 2011 i think 0.98

00:44:55.720 benghazi and now like now how many more are there so you know we have we have to use our voices or

00:45:03.240 we have just given up or we just forgot um anything in closing on this owen and marcella

00:45:12.360 it's just very eye-opening that that 25 years with condoleezza rice

00:45:17.000 and president former president bush um because this completely rewrites stories i was just reading

00:45:24.360 I don't know if it was an Owen story or just another story on X that 9-11 is being rewritten.

00:45:31.400 History is being changed in front of our eyes.

00:45:34.880 And it's tragic because, you know, say what you stood for during that time, you know, maybe say, okay, at that time I thought this and now I think this, you know, that could have been what President Bush could have said.

00:45:48.460 But one of the reasons we have Michigan and we have Minnesota and all sorts of things is because we went to fight a war in Afghanistan and Iraq and there were asylum seekers after that, after fighting that war.

00:46:08.720 And so part of that is all on Condoleezza Rice and President Bush.

00:46:15.920 And they don't, you know, and the weapons of mass destruction, as you know.

00:46:22.940 Condoleezza is not who you think she is, just FYI.

00:46:26.980 But go ahead, Owen.

00:46:28.120 I would just add, you know, this is a really important part of our history.

00:46:32.700 um it it really changed the whole nature of government warfare you know how we operate as

00:46:41.440 a society um it brought us together but it also pulled us apart in many ways and um it created

00:46:49.160 the whole surveillance state and you know really was a big factor in just the government is today

00:46:56.480 and how we think and it just underlies a lot of things that you might not really think about but

00:47:02.320 it's there and um so i i do think it's important to remember it's important to remember what was

00:47:08.900 happening at the time as and what people thought at the time as opposed to just what people are

00:47:14.600 trying to say now because i agree that they are trying to recast history and you know we have

00:47:20.380 stories about not wanting to call the people terrorists or um you know and you know we've

00:47:27.980 had some of this before like the you know some people did something comment that ilan omar i

00:47:32.500 think was saying at one point and you know it's terrible things that minimize what happened but

00:47:39.620 it was just a massive attack so many people lost their lives and so many heroes tried to save lives

00:47:46.960 and um you know it just it became a huge part of our culture and i don't want it to be forgotten

00:47:52.880 um so i'm glad we're covering it now and i'm glad we keep coming back to it every year because i

00:47:57.760 think it is important to just remember that that happened and to do our best to make sure that it

00:48:03.620 never happens again. I agree. Well said. Yeah. Ilhan Omar, I have her clip right here, but I'm

00:48:11.520 not going to play it, but she's, um, she's a snake. So, uh, make sure you talk to your kids, 0.57

00:48:19.760 you guys, even if they're adult kids, they don't know what happened. And, um, I just, I'll never

00:48:25.820 forget all of the American flags on everyone's house, their cars, their businesses, just American

00:48:34.700 flags everywhere. So let's do Scott's playbook you guys today and just post American flags on

00:48:42.380 your social media, just litter social media with just pictures of American flags. Um, and, you

00:48:49.800 know tag it never forget and tag it be useful um you know two good messages so we don't have time

00:48:58.700 to get into a story i really wanted to get into you guys but on monday we're going to bring a

00:49:03.900 detailed more detailed information to you about what we spoke about briefly with walter kern

00:49:09.540 is this jacob coxson who resigned from open ai and is saying that we're all going to be dead

00:49:16.580 in a decade from AI. I am 50, 50 on the probability because I am hearing arguments on both sides that

00:49:24.340 are persuasive, but, um, over Marcella and Owen and I have been reading about it and digging into

00:49:30.720 it. Uh, so Monday, we're going to bring you that story, um, as best as we can to see how it

00:49:36.260 develops. Um, but I just thought for fun, if I had to see it, you have to see it segment is coming

00:49:44.480 up. So did you know there was a little socialist meeting happening just the other day? And I don't

00:49:53.500 think they're wearing masks because they're afraid of germs. I think some of them are hiding their

00:49:57.520 identity based on the things they're saying. But these are your DSA folk. Let's take a listen. And

00:50:06.160 this is like, again, fitting for why elections matter and why people need to be informed 0.99

00:50:11.600 of the dangers of socialism please be gay do crimes with me um and it's also really fucking 0.94

00:50:21.300 weird just on the laws not real thing as an abolitionist the ethos of abolition abolitionist 0.99

00:50:27.280 positionality of an abolitionist liberatory ecosystem debates in abolition in abolition

00:50:33.360 especially as you if you think of it as both methodology and ideology when you abolish the

00:50:38.880 police you do burn down police stations i imagine indeed we have but um or some people have

00:50:45.200 allegedly to the abolition of rent nuclear weapons prison debt even monopoly power imperialism

00:50:52.200 you name it and abolition isn't is what we are making rather than the erasure of what is

00:51:02.520 So when I say, as I've said many times, I know it's a meme, abolition is a presence, I mean it.

00:51:10.880 And by feminism, I mean anti-racist feminism, anti-capitalist feminism, abolition feminism.

00:51:18.300 As abolitionist praxis.

00:51:19.580 It has been consistent with a black feminist, black left feminist praxis to be in solidarity with Palestine. 0.99

00:51:26.620 Prefigurative political praxis.

00:51:28.300 There's a difference between solidarity as political value and solidarity as organizing practice.

00:51:34.620 Long march towards dialectical materialism.

00:51:37.340 To deepen the struggle, to broaden the struggle.

00:51:40.720 You know, love, study, and struggle is a framework for action.

00:51:45.280 Struggles across our history.

00:51:46.800 Some of us are card-carrying communists.

00:51:49.440 Some of us democratic socialists.

00:51:51.860 Some of us pan-Africanists, radical feminists, anti-imperialists, police abolitionists.

00:51:57.360 We need a junkie communism. 0.65

00:51:59.180 You know, Marx and Engels were actually really influenced by us, by the Haudenosaunee,

00:52:03.380 and they saw us as like this, they called us primitive communists.

00:52:07.760 So maybe you should never take your commie hat off.

00:52:10.540 Deshaun is a queer and trans theorist, anarcho-communist, Afro-pessimist, and southern-born-and-bred abolitionist. 0.72

00:52:17.660 I am not okay, comrades. 0.79

00:52:20.520 For over a decade, I've been part of a sort of transgender materialist and anti-work trans Marxist effort in revolutionary feminism in the West that theorizes social reproduction and trans social reproduction and the positive supersession of capitalist care.

00:52:39.460 Imperialism, colonialism.

00:52:41.400 Okay, I had to stop it.

00:52:42.760 You guys, there's like another at least minute or more of that.

00:52:46.220 Thank you for stopping it. 1.00

00:52:47.340 Can you imagine trying to talk to any one of these idiots? 1.00

00:52:52.920 No one's like, I'm just an American. 1.00

00:52:55.660 All right, Owen, I need your take on this immediately.

00:52:58.260 The problem is just that these aren't just a fringe anymore.

00:53:02.860 There's always been these crazies, and there's some on the right too.

00:53:07.340 But they've never been taken seriously, and they've never been allowed into actually getting elected into office.

00:53:14.120 And, but that's the problem is that the Democrats are ushering in these people and saying, yeah, we have room for you under our big tents and we can do all these socialist things. And it's becoming kind of like the mainstream platform of the party. And that's, what's crazy. I mean, it's one thing to say, there's always going to be these, you know, anarcho-communist people and wackos like Marcella who want, you know, Ayn Rand to be the world. No, I'm just kidding.

00:53:39.600 I was like, what?

00:53:41.900 I was like, Marcella, who?

00:53:43.000 I was there and I covered my I put a mask and I covered myself so yeah but but you know like

00:53:49.840 like previously you know these people on the left were just thought of as okay those are the wackos

00:53:55.380 like you know you're not going to actually take them seriously or make it part of your party 0.72

00:53:58.940 platform but that's what's happening now and that's why it's such a threat is that it's not 0.95

00:54:03.260 just a few people saying stupid things it's you know they're really embracing it on the democrat 0.94

00:54:11.000 party and and that's the problem yeah um go ahead what i was gonna say is the axis of evil has 0.97

00:54:17.640 changed now it's iran china and the democratic party oh yeah and it used to not be and like

00:54:24.120 owen said this was not the common democratic stance now it is and on top of that you know i

00:54:31.960 i noticed all of them are very progressive very liberal socially you know the you know they're pro

00:54:37.960 pro-gay, pro-trans and all that, if they were to walk into Gaza, into Palestine, into Saudi Arabia, 0.92

00:54:45.460 into many of these countries, even Iran, they'd be killed. Yeah. So for them to even, even like, 0.99

00:54:52.140 if you, if you have your point of pro-trans, pro-gay, whatever, good. Okay. That's your point.

00:55:00.160 But the fact that you are supporting people that would kill you, that's just insane to me.

00:55:05.140 I never heard the word abolitionist so much in my life. Oh my God. It's so, so you have to understand you guys, they want to literally burn it all down and then just open the borders and have like complete chaos free for all. And there, if they get into power, if the Democrats get into power, that's exactly what's going to happen. So I do love that we're having a midterm convention because we do need to perk people up and they need to vote like their lives depend on it.

00:55:32.820 And I would just add, like, if Scott were here, he might point out that using that word abolitionist is an intentional persuasion word because they're trying to associate themselves with abolishing slavery.

00:55:44.800 Yes.

00:55:45.380 And it's a powerful word to use, right?

00:55:47.720 Because who's going to say they don't want to be an abolitionist in today's world?

00:55:51.780 Not those people.

00:55:53.140 Well, just anybody.

00:55:53.980 Like, you'd say, of course I'm an abolitionist.

00:55:56.040 But they're applying it to a totally different context where it doesn't make sense.

00:55:59.820 and it's crazy to say you want to abolish the police, but it is, it is a very persuasive word

00:56:07.560 to use. So I just wanted to point that out. It is a persuasive word and now overused,

00:56:12.720 but I would like to believe that at least 80% of you people watching this, if someone said to you,

00:56:19.500 are you an abolitionist? You'd be like, of what? You know? So we ask questions. Um, and Frank,

00:56:27.260 did you want this? You want this clip? I mean, I'll share it for you on my, um, ex if you want

00:56:32.540 it. I couldn't get through it. I was like, Ooh, this is too much for everybody. Um, but that's

00:56:37.180 what we're dealing with in that election in the election. So, um, I know that the second day

00:56:42.860 of the convention was last night. Right. And so, um, JD Vance was well-received thunderous

00:56:51.900 applause for him for everything he did and um did you guys hear any more about that that's

00:56:58.100 important for everybody oh there was a guy that came in with the flag of at first they thought

00:57:04.400 it was palestine but it was mexican flag and that was a good moment for jd vance he was like if you 0.80

00:57:10.360 want to you know if you want to go to mexico get your ass over there he's like i'll buy your plane 0.90

00:57:14.860 ticket and that's another another thing i have about the going back to the like if i'm this 0.99

00:57:21.740 i'm that and that and then now i'm supporting iran or supporting uh islamist or whatever

00:57:27.500 they're supporting they're also like whenever they do their protests and they have different

00:57:34.300 flags then go there if you want to be that that country go there you know that's my point yeah oh

00:57:42.380 and did you catch anything or is there any other thing in a in a couple of minutes that you want

00:57:46.700 to tell us about um well there you know there certainly was that stuff about um there's a story

00:57:54.940 about rubio saying that the cartels are controlling a lot of mexico but i think we're you know maybe

00:58:02.140 opening it up another front if we haven't already on that front to fight the cartels i'm not sure

00:58:06.380 what that'll become but it's something to watch and um you know i think uh there's

00:58:13.500 There's a bunch of election integrity stuff still going on.

00:58:17.620 They apparently caught somebody in California, I think it was, that was basically, I mean, he was arrested and he was apparently targeting people in Skid Row to forge registers, voters and names and addresses on petitions to qualify ballot initiative.

00:58:35.380 So, you know, it's not voting per se, but it's like the ballot initiative part of voting, which is part of that process.

00:58:41.740 and so it seems like we're just uncovering more and more every day about what's going on there

00:58:47.800 and you know we also caught someone in Minnesota again that got sentenced to 97 months for fraud

00:58:56.540 related to the feeding my future thing that Tim Wall seems to be defending this guy named

00:59:02.380 McFira Hussain you know you might be able to guess what kind of background that person has

00:59:08.760 and another one named Abdul-Jabbar Hussain.

00:59:14.040 I think one got 57 months, the other got 40 months for wire fraud.

00:59:19.800 And they were basically faking meal counts

00:59:22.100 and using false attendance rosters and just submitting claims.

00:59:26.120 So I think it was a total of $8.8 million that they stole.

00:59:32.040 So plenty of that going on.

00:59:33.980 And then on the good news side, well, I don't know about the good news side,

00:59:37.140 um newsom's chances seem to be plummeting in the election um i'm sure scott would not have been

00:59:44.880 surprised at that but um because he predicted that he kind of said gavin newsom's never going

00:59:49.400 to make it but i would say the bad news that goes with that is the leader now is aoc so i think or

00:59:56.520 at least close to i mean it's um looks like polymarket is putting newsom's odd of winning

01:00:02.740 the White House at 7% and leading the Democrats as AOC at 13%.

01:00:08.420 Wow.

01:00:09.560 So AOC certainly is emerging as the potential candidate, I would say.

01:00:14.080 I wouldn't mind the mud wrestling between AOC and Kamala, you know, figuratively.

01:00:20.660 Just to watch those two great minds debate each other would be like, oh my God, can you

01:00:25.800 guys think of it?

01:00:27.860 Kamala and AOC debating each other.

01:00:32.140 Oh, my God.

01:00:32.800 I can't even imagine how amazing that would be.

01:00:35.820 I'm also just imagining whatever men are involved in that primary and what their reaction is going to be watching these two women battle it out.

01:00:43.940 I mean, who else do you have? 0.97

01:00:45.260 Like Ro Khanna, Pritzker, maybe Gavin Newsom?

01:00:49.740 Senator John Ossoff is right behind AOC.

01:00:52.760 Oh, is he?

01:00:53.240 So I think that's the third or maybe second place candidate at this point.

01:00:58.080 I just want to see Kamala in AOC. 1.00

01:00:59.840 I want to see like the chicks fight it out because they're so like chicks, you know, chicks rule, but you all hate each other anyway. 1.00

01:01:06.920 So, you know, the feminists are ruining women's lives every day. 1.00

01:01:11.620 So it would be amazing. 1.00

01:01:13.280 The thing about the Democratic Party, though, is that they always pick who they're going to elect, who their candidate is behind the curtain, and then they put it out there.

01:01:24.780 So I don't know if they have decided, but in my take, and Erica, I would have to disagree with what you just said and with Owen, that I really think it's Newsom.

01:01:36.020 You do?

01:01:36.620 With AOC underneath.

01:01:38.880 Oof.

01:01:40.120 So I don't think they're going to go Kamala again because they kind of, she almost picked them.

01:01:45.680 Yeah, I don't think they'll pick Kamala either.

01:01:47.660 So I think that they, you know, it's the, they choose and then the rest of the party just follows.

01:01:53.500 And you know what? Democrats should be pissed. I mean, look, they shoved Kamala down their throats for the last one. Oh, sorry. But it's like you guys have no say in voting. It's like, here's who you're getting. We're going to pretend your vote matters. Just go cheat.

01:02:10.500 here's biden here's what you're getting i'll just i'll take the other side of that prediction maybe

01:02:15.400 i'm wrong but i do think that there's been a change in the platform and there's been a change

01:02:19.880 in how a lot of the democrats are looking at who they should run and i think they realized that

01:02:25.820 biden was not a good candidate and kamala wasn't even a good replacement but i think

01:02:31.380 you know they're probably still thinking like do we really want to try another white man

01:02:35.240 and they still think that way right and aoc you know aoc checked all the boxes but also has that

01:02:43.500 energy and and she's i mean american devoc has been pointing out but american devoc has been

01:02:49.340 pointing out her persuasion skills are really high like she's she's up there and um i i think

01:02:55.740 she's got a shot yeah maybe we'll see doesn't matter to the party because the party is all

01:03:02.660 about who you are in the in the in the in the hierarchy of everything even the GOP used to be

01:03:08.960 like that where it's like you you get to a level so you know like Newsom waited out and gave Kamala

01:03:16.460 the go-ahead but he kind of waited to uh or like post on x what he wanted to say when Kamala came

01:03:25.700 out i knew that was the site i know people some of the people inside and he was like waiting

01:03:31.940 because he thought he was next so it's like that idea just like hillary was like yeah i am next

01:03:38.260 you know so i just aoc is too young um and she is persuasive i don't i don't i don't i don't

01:03:46.580 argue with that it's just that the way the dnc picks this is this is watch out you could you

01:03:52.660 You could be right. And, you know, past history would support a lot of what you're saying.

01:03:57.780 I'm just saying we may be at a different point now where they're sucking wind financially, you know, the DNC is broke and they're, you know, basically looked at like losers at this point.

01:04:11.500 And I'm talking about from their party. And so at a certain point, you have to say, OK, we've got to do something different.

01:04:18.320 And if AOC has the energy and if she can start doing a lot of fundraising, I think that's going to get a lot of the DNC's attention.

01:04:25.040 And they may say, let's get behind the person who can actually bring in the money.

01:04:29.040 Let's remember, it was Scott Adams that first told us about AOC's persuasion when she first came on the scene.

01:04:36.780 And we, you know, wanted to rail against him and be like, no, don't say it.

01:04:41.640 because if Scott is saying someone's persuasive and has the presidential

01:04:46.720 persuasion level, like even though she was new then,

01:04:50.900 like he wasn't saying like, you know, now,

01:04:52.600 but he saw that in her from day one and oh man,

01:04:56.600 do you know why we hated it? Because Scott was right.

01:04:59.740 And we were just like, yeah, all right. She is persuasive,

01:05:02.560 but we can't stand her and we don't want her to win and whatever.

01:05:06.240 So, you know, Scott could see those things.

01:05:08.240 he even predicted that Kamala would be president one day and she was for a couple of hours while

01:05:14.300 Joe had a procedure. But I was like, Scott, stop predicting. Or maybe for four years while Biden

01:05:19.880 was. Yeah. Right. But I was like, every time Scott would talk about someone's persuasion and,

01:05:25.520 you know, like what their potential could be, I was always like, stop. It's going to happen if

01:05:30.820 you're talking about it. And I don't want to see Kamala as president, even for an hour. I don't

01:05:35.140 want to see AOC running for the white house, but you know, if there's one thing he knew,

01:05:40.180 that's what he knew. And I mean, that's also how he got into politics, just pointing out the very

01:05:44.920 obvious about president Trump. And, um, you know, and that's how we all ended up here today. So,

01:05:51.500 um, all hail Scott, let me tell you, but I don't want AOC. I don't want her anywhere near me, 0.98

01:05:57.860 but I think she wants Chuck Schumer's job personally. So we'll see. I think she, I don't,

01:06:03.360 I don't think she thinks she's ready for the presidency.

01:06:06.220 I think she wants to run the Congress is my opinion. 0.98

01:06:12.040 But I think that there's going to be enough DEI options for the left anyway.

01:06:19.140 But Gavin Newsom didn't shoot his shot when he showed up, just like Hillary didn't.

01:06:23.300 And they both took a backseat for other people, which shows that they're not leaders and they didn't really want it.

01:06:29.120 They took a backseat.

01:06:30.200 They let someone else go.

01:06:31.300 And then they thought they'd be anointed and they were wrong.

01:06:33.360 they're bad decision makers so sorry you're done um are we manifesting this we maybe we shouldn't

01:06:41.440 aoc and and newsom should probably be like yeah featherman featherman can be the candidate i'm

01:06:48.960 picturing aoc as the new schumer personally that's where my head's going but we'll see we'll see um

01:06:56.560 Um, okay, you guys. So, oh, okay. Reading your comments, you guys. So let's have a, uh, uh,

01:07:03.880 a goodbye. Let's say I see a Monday, but Owen, what are you doing tomorrow?

01:07:08.880 I'll be having the after party. So anybody who wants to, you can have a sip with me and talk

01:07:12.860 about the news. You get your voice where you can talk about what we talk about here or anything

01:07:17.060 else or anything else. And, and as JV will keep the flow, Marcella, what's going on with you?

01:07:22.500 just working. It's so much fun to be in a journey. Oh, it sounds like a ball. But again,

01:07:29.080 hit your timer every time you talk about it. Right now, that was probably a minute right there.

01:07:33.100 All right, you guys. So let's do it today. Let's post our American flags everywhere you're posting.

01:07:42.080 And always remember what happened today, 25 years ago. Teach our younger generation about it. They

01:07:49.600 literally have no idea. And, um, let's have a thank you to Scott and Shelly for allowing this

01:07:56.940 show to continue. And, um, I will stay and play an Akira song. Um, but before that, let's have a

01:08:04.700 closing sip and to Scott, because we will never forget you either. Scott to Scott

01:08:11.120 be useful thanks guys okay

01:08:20.620 let's program reality you guys let's do it

01:08:25.780 sounds romantic oh look at you marcella

01:08:35.220 Oh, I found the light.

01:08:40.960 Let me show you my path toward figuring out the user interface.

01:08:48.560 It's important that you know how I got there so that you could have some trust that there's something to it.

01:08:55.760 When I was a kid, I was influenced, as was my mother, by the book The Power of Positive Thinking by Norman Vincent Peale.

01:09:02.560 They're suggested that you could somehow change your life, or maybe you were changing reality, if you could simply think positively.

01:09:13.560 Think positively.

01:09:17.140 Think positively.

01:09:20.720 Think positively.

01:09:22.140 So this was my first introduction to the concept that maybe reality was not fixed and something that you were a victim of, but rather you could do something.

01:09:35.120 There was some mechanism, some technique, some tools you could use to give some control over your environment and your life, as opposed to having to control you.

01:09:52.140 And that was my first thought that reality could be programmable in at least some simple sense.

01:09:59.400 But of course, I embarked on a lifetime of exploration to find out if I could find out more about how to program reality.

01:10:08.900 Think positively.

01:10:11.040 Think positively.

01:10:12.980 Think positively.

01:10:14.620 How to program reality.

01:10:16.740 Think positively.

01:10:18.440 Think positively.

01:10:19.440 I think pause led me to learn meditation.

01:10:23.800 I became a trained hypnotist.

01:10:25.680 Of course, mushrooms let you see the world in a completely different reality.

01:10:30.860 And all of these things, from studying all the different religions to doing affirmations,

01:10:35.840 which is really just visualizing what you want and writing it down every day.

01:10:40.320 Visualizing what you want and writing it down every day.

01:10:43.300 And then learning persuasion.

01:10:44.660 These all have the same cumulative effect of teaching me that reality was indeed far more subjective than you're led to believe.

01:10:56.840 And when I say reality is subjective, I don't mean that there isn't some base reality that's real.

01:11:03.900 What I mean is that we don't have access to it.

01:11:08.220 In other words, you just take religion.

01:11:10.540 two people with completely different religions can go into a store they can shop they can get

01:11:17.040 married have children they don't really need to reconcile the fact that they live in different

01:11:21.460 worlds one thinks there's an afterlife one thinks there's reincarnation one thinks there's nothing

01:11:27.820 and yet we we all survive and thrive and reproduce

01:11:31.300 there's nothing to suggest that our brains are the kind of brains that can understand reality

01:11:39.760 Instead, all of the evidence suggests that we can put filters optionally and somewhat subjectively on our reality.

01:11:49.700 And the thing that we deal with is a filter.

01:11:51.660 We're not dealing with the underlying reality, but our filter on it is the thing that's real to us.

01:11:56.700 And you can change those filters.

01:11:58.720 So that's the important part.

01:12:01.720 And you can change them fairly easily.

01:12:03.820 And if you find a filter that predicts better and makes you happier, well, that's the better filter, even if it isn't a better approximation of reality.

01:12:13.180 What matters is you're happy.

01:12:14.880 What matters is you're getting what you need out of life.

01:12:18.640 Think positively.

01:12:20.300 Think positively.

01:12:22.100 Think positively.

01:12:23.660 How to program reality.

01:12:25.800 Think positively.

01:12:27.440 Think positively.

01:12:29.260 Think positively.

01:12:30.980 Program reality.

01:12:32.140 You can change those filters, change those filters, change those filters, how to program reality.

01:12:40.140 Think positively, think positively, think positively.

01:12:44.540 So once you accept that there's a subjective reality, you're starting to get ready to accept

01:13:05.520 the user interface for that reality.

01:13:14.540 Oh, Bart, you sweet talker. Thanks to you guys so much. Get your flags out there. Fly your freak

01:13:25.420 flags for America and be useful, be positive. Like Scott just said, think positively, you guys.

01:13:32.400 It takes work sometimes, but you can train your brain to think positively like that. Just make

01:13:38.720 the decision okay and uh we'll be back on monday with a lot of news actually um and some surprises

01:13:47.740 for you next week marcella have an awesome weekend and everybody have a great weekend

01:13:55.260 and um go visit owen tomorrow at the after party all right all right guys don't forget to post

01:14:01.120 your flags post your flags i'm gonna go post mine right now let's go bye guys

01:14:08.720 Thank you.

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