00:09:39.080I watched some PBD. I watched some All In. I watched the All In pod guys. I watched some
00:09:47.260Megyn Kelly. I watched, oh my gosh, who else? Everywhere. I was just like floating around,
00:09:54.400just listening to what people were saying. And everybody had great guests on. I did not watch
00:10:00.560any Fox News or anything like that. I just don't watch that stuff anymore. But, you know, so let's
00:10:05.940talk about it. First off, um, this was president Trump last night, uh, on Fox news real quick.
00:10:14.640We're both talented people. Mr. President, uh, you have a final message tonight that you, um,
00:10:19.700take from tonight and a message to the American people.
00:10:22.980Well, I say this, congratulations to the Democrats. They did a good job.
00:10:27.900They've been looking for this one for 11 years and they finally got it, but I don't view it as a
00:10:33.800hit on me. I think what we've done, we've had the greatest two years in the history of the
00:10:38.980presidency in terms of the economy, in terms of all the things that we've done. Look at the border.
00:10:43.880The border was an open sieve. And within two months, it was totally closed. You know,
00:10:50.16017 months now with zero people coming in through the, you report the results, zero people coming
00:10:56.000in through the southern border. That's a big deal. I ran on that. But that's peanuts compared
00:11:01.220to what we've done, because we have all this money all over the world. They're coming here.
00:11:05.260And you look at Europe, it's dying. You look at what's going on in France and what's going on in
00:11:09.600Italy and all these other countries. I mean, they're going through a terrible time. They may
00:11:14.700not even survive, frankly. And we are thriving. And we want to keep it that way. But I say
00:11:20.280congratulations to the Democrats. They worked very hard and long.
00:11:26.460okay so yes i did watch uh walter kern and matt taibbi also i was like just bopping around um
00:11:37.240you know all right so it's nice what trump said you know you congratulate them and you know and0.89
00:11:44.780please don't impeach me and you know lawfare the shit out of my family because it's coming
00:11:51.180i suspect it is coming yeah it's coming and there will be an impeachment of hegseth and and they0.55
00:11:58.560want all the documents that they can get their hands on they'll be leaked stuff and it's all
00:12:03.040coming you guys but you know it's really nothing new and i saw somebody say in the chat and i agree
00:12:10.420this is we have more of like a culture problem happening um you know the parties always flip
00:12:18.020flop. Like this stuff has been happening forever. You know, like that's, it's bad that we have a
00:12:24.520two party system. There should be more parties personally, in my opinion. Um, but this is what
00:12:30.040happens, right? Oh. And so like it only can stay so long with like a one party in power, like in
00:12:35.460a state, in a, you know, in, in a Senate, in a whatever, and then it, it shifts. And in a way
00:12:42.140that kind of makes me feel good because I like to know that there are checks and balances. And
00:12:48.680listen, the people of America have spoken and this is what they voted for. So just like when
00:12:54.740we voted Trump in and people were flipping out, it's like the same thing. Like, okay,
00:12:59.960so there's a certain level of unhappiness and fatigue and desperation and people wanting a
00:13:07.300change for whatever their reason is and this is what happens um oh and what you know about that
00:13:14.420like what do you think well i think um you know the founding fathers designed our government to
00:13:20.180make laws hard to pass and so they have all these checks and balances like you said built into it so
00:13:25.720something to get become a law has to first go through the house and then it has to also go
00:13:29.680through the senate and then it has to be signed by the president and unless you have a two-thirds
00:13:34.140majority in the Senate or something, then there's really no way to get anything through. So Trump
00:13:38.640already said he's going to be Mr. Vito and had a veto hat on and all these other things. And
00:13:43.380so I'm not really worried about a bunch of Democrat laws getting passed. I think he can
00:13:48.500stop whatever he wants to stop and he can essentially be the wall against that, at least
00:13:53.280for the next two years. And so I think the main concern is probably, like you said, the, you know,
00:13:59.240the political theater and all the impeachments and hearings and document dumps and other things
00:14:05.340that they'll just try and embarrass the Trump administration. They'll try and lawfare whoever0.92
00:14:09.640they can. And that'll be the thing to watch is how much that happens. And I think if they do too
00:14:16.360much of it, I do think that it might backfire on them because I think at some point voters are
00:14:20.580going to say, what the hell are you doing? Like, why aren't you earning the country? Why aren't
00:14:23.700you trying to get things done? And then on the other side of that, I don't think they're really
00:14:26.960going to be able to get anything done. You know, they'll have to pass a budget at some point. But
00:14:30.900other than that, I would guess what I'll see over the next two years is nothing will get through
00:14:35.020Congress. And it really will just be political theater for two years. Nothing else will get
00:14:40.620through except some kind of budget. And it may make it harder for Trump to get the budget he
00:14:45.860wants just because he doesn't have as many votes to swing his way. But, you know, that may backfire
00:14:52.300on the democrats as well because if we're over the economy and people we can we can certainly
00:14:57.800point right now to congress and say that's the democrats fault everything that happens that has
00:15:03.880a law behind it or has a budget behind it or has some kind of economic impact behind it that you
00:15:09.500know the democrats take full accountability for whatever happens or doesn't happen there and
00:15:13.700they can't point to you know republicans had control republicans did it no it's it was the
00:15:19.320Democrats now. And so there may be some upside to this in 2028, where, you know, we can point
00:15:25.440to all the bad policies and all the bad ideas and all the bad things that they've done over
00:15:29.820the next two years and say, do you really want more of that? Well, I'm going to tell you right
00:15:35.200now, we have got to focus on 28. And if we don't hold the presidency, we're going to have a really
00:15:44.400big problem. So, you know, as long as we hold that and we get a Republican elected, which
00:15:51.800I mean, so here's the thing, the Democrats could be so horrific now and be so freaking obnoxious
00:15:59.460now that even the people that held their nose and voted for these Democrats this time are going to
00:16:04.860be like, okay, well, we can't, we can't elect these people into like the highest office. There's just
00:16:09.140no way however you know like meghan kelly made a good point i saw a clip this morning that trump
00:16:18.100needs to give i don't think rubio is going to have a chance by the way right now because it really
00:16:23.700seems to me that the iran war is the biggest issue because it's causing the problems with the economy
00:16:31.700that the republicans are pissed and that's what i'm seeing it the war is the problem rubio
00:16:39.140is basically like a neocon and he's not distancing himself from it. Vance tried to distance from it
00:16:46.980and, you know, you see what happens to him. I mean, I agree with you that that probably was
00:16:52.080the big issue. I mean, I saw polls, you know, I don't know if I can trust any polls, so it's kind
00:16:56.400of hard to know. But the polls that I saw were kind of like overwhelmingly that it was about
00:17:00.680the Iran war and gas prices. And so to the extent that's true, I think, you know, if Trump did make
00:17:07.980one mistake it was to go into the iran war now again i you know maybe he had really good reasons
00:17:12.360or necessary reasons for doing that i'm not necessarily saying oh he never should have done0.97
00:17:16.440that he was an idiot but like he paid the price for it you know like that that that may have been0.99
00:17:22.040what swung the midterms against we paid the price for it yeah well all of us but i i think what i'm1.00
00:17:28.320saying is like that may be the state today but it's two years from now that we're talking about
00:17:34.380this election so a lot can change over the next two years and if trump brings a swift close
00:17:39.120to the iran war which i was hoping would happen back in march or april um then you know in two
00:17:45.320years people may have forgotten about it so my hope would be that he can do whatever he needs
00:17:50.020to do to finish that off and get that done over the next let's say several months and get out of
00:17:55.880there and if we can have a couple years of peace without any major conflicts and the economy
00:18:01.880recovers and gas prices go down and food prices go down. And if we keep working on affordability,
00:18:07.160because Trump is doing a lot to try and help affordability. And in theory, the Democrats are
00:18:11.560saying they want to do the same thing. So let's see what they do. But we have different ways of
00:18:17.180getting there, though. That's right. But what I'm saying is, like, you know, in theory, we should
00:18:21.040have a better economy a couple of years from now. But like, I think, you know, to the extent that
00:18:27.560Trump can make those things happen and we're in a better place two years from now. I don't really
00:18:32.280expect the Democrats to do anything to help the economy. If anything, they might intentionally
00:18:35.700sabotage it. But I think like that may become clear as well. And so in terms of Rubio, like
00:18:43.540people may have forgotten about what was going on in Iran as long as it's a couple of years in the
00:18:48.200past. But if we're still there in two years, then yeah, it's going to be a big issue.
00:18:52.000Well, here's what here's what Megan said. And Glenn Greenwald, the party cannot just keep limping along in this condition. Massive change does have to come. And I mean, I think the perfect outcome would be for Trump to give J.D. Vance the clearance or Marco to distance themselves from some of his decisions, understanding that that there's no way they can win unless they do and still bless them with his MAGA base who will listen to him.
00:19:18.440If he tells them not to vote for them, they won't.
00:19:21.600If he tells them to vote for them, they will.
00:19:24.360But the problem is that Trump, back to the parent, the narcissistic parent, like, he's not going to want that.
00:19:41.380Yeah, like when I was listening to that, I was thinking about both parties, how both parties need a kind of destruction and a realization that what they've been doing.
00:19:50.840And if I'm a Republican, even though I would look at these results and feel upset and depressed and angry or whatever, the thing that I would hold on to that would give me the greatest optimism is that the Democrats also need radical fundamental transformation.
00:20:06.480They are an extremely unpopular party.
00:20:08.020It was just two years ago they ran Kamala Harris and were going to run Joe Biden and have been repudiated over the last decade in places they never thought they would by Donald Trump and his party.
00:20:16.800And if they look at these results and say, oh, look, this is proof that we're on the right path, we don't need to change anything, which is, I think, how parties interpret these results when they win, in two years they're going to be the same Democrats that Americans also despise.
00:20:31.320And they're going to be very vulnerable to a clever politician, whether it's Stady Vance or whoever, who figures out how to thread that needle.
00:20:37.280the democrats also need to see this as a repudiation of kind of what the bipartisan
00:20:42.320class has been doing to americans okay i just want to say to the chat on locals like bj especially
00:20:51.120like i just don't appreciate that i want you guys to hear from everybody scott talked about
00:20:58.880everybody he didn't hate megan kelly either and she liked him and if you can't hear opinions from
00:21:07.840everyone then are you informed are you getting all of the ideas it's it's just kind of a bummer
00:21:14.000um to play a clip with people who are in this industry and then you guys are like ah come on
00:21:20.000you guys we're we're that's not who we are over here you don't have to like her but just try to
00:21:26.080listen to other people this is why we get ourselves into a bubble i'm sorry this is the kind of thing
00:21:31.120that's just going to set me off today so i just have to say that that that's the kind of thing
00:21:35.680that really just pisses me off because I really, I listened to Cenk Weger this morning. I listened
00:21:42.000to all sorts of Democrats and people that could be annoying, but I want to be fricking informed.
00:21:48.240And I want, and you know what, there's good ideas and bad ideas from everyone and everywhere. So
00:21:53.800please, I'm begging you just give me today to just get through this show. Okay. I'm sorry. You,
00:21:59.440someone said they were waiting for me to go off today. That's as far as I'm going off,
00:22:02.680but okay. We'll see her. Yeah. Yeah, it's true. We will see. All right. So I'm going to move on
00:22:11.240from that because I just, I need to. So anyway, so going on, we've got Abdul Syed, one in Michigan,
00:22:20.860and I just thought this was interesting. Here's a strategist who was working to help in Michigan.
00:22:28.560This was 100% preventable. President Trump won Michigan in 2024. He flipped it. He did it by winning Muslim Americans in Michigan. There were warning signs. A lot of people, myself included, told the White House for the last year that Michigan was a problem and that we were going to need to keep those voters and we were all shut out. We were dismissed. I was hired by the Michigan GOP to help with their messaging and the White House called the Michigan GOP and
00:22:58.540said they can't hire me because of my views on the Iran war. And here we are, right? And I don't
00:23:05.660take any pleasure in saying that other than just to say that there has to be an immediate course
00:23:10.500correction here. The voters have just told you that. I mean, El-Sayed, he came on this network
00:23:16.620three times. Did any of the president's spokespeople go on CNN, MSNOW, podcasts, go talk
00:23:22.460to independents, go talk to young men, go talk to black voters? Did we do any of that? They didn't
00:23:27.420do any of that. This was 100 percent preventable. OK, oh, and just take it away. Well, I mean,
00:23:35.580I again, I do agree that the Iran war was probably the biggest issue that worked against Republicans.
00:23:42.880And I also, I think, agree that the Republican Party in general does a terrible job. It just
00:23:48.120doesn't seem like they really have a good strategy and really have elections figured out the way they
00:23:53.740should in terms of how to mobilize voters and get people out to vote and speak to the right issues
00:23:59.180and um so i i do think the republican party especially the rnc needs to get their act
00:24:05.180together uh and i'm hoping that they'll take some lessons learned away from this and say okay we
00:24:09.820can't do that again we got to do something better and different um in terms of the michigan versus
00:24:16.140like the you know specifically as it relates to the iran war i would take a little issue just
00:24:45.080But I think, you know, to me, it is ridiculous that El-Sayed got elected. I'm hoping that that won't last more than one term, but I guess we'll see what happens now that we have an Islamist in Congress and in the Senate.1.00
00:25:00.660um but you know my hope is he won't do too much damage while he's there and uh yeah that if he1.00
00:25:07.560does do something horrible which is possible i think then you know hopefully they'll expel him
00:25:12.920from congress but um we'll just have to see how it all plays out yeah um and he dropped the mask
00:25:19.340immediately upon taking to the mic i'm going to play that in one second and just so you know i'm
00:25:24.400not reading any chat today. The chat's off. So here he is when he came up to the mic and
00:25:31.820he just said, like, F it. Here I am, people. Suck it. This is who I am.
00:25:43.000My name is Abdulrahman Muhammad Al-Sayyid.
00:25:48.460And I am so proud and honored to stand here as your senator-elect from the great state
00:26:48.900Yeah. I mean, it's ridiculous, and I hope they learn their lesson and don't do this again.0.99
00:26:54.280But Michigan seems to be one of those areas where they really put a lot of Islam people there.0.98
00:27:02.280And I have to imagine it may have been intentional to put a bunch of Somalis in Minnesota and a bunch of other Muslim people in Michigan.0.96
00:27:10.260And I would expect if they really combed through the records and could find any documentation, they would find out that that was a deliberate thing to say, let's not spread these people around. Let's put them all in one place where they can make a bigger impact. And, you know, Michigan seems to be paying the price at this point.
00:27:28.280but I hope that it will turn around and um that we can bring some sanity back to this but
00:27:35.220um again you know it happened and there's nothing we can do about it now so we just have to move on
00:27:40.620yeah okay so um another clip okay so I I personally love to get a lot of my news from
00:27:48.220Tim Dillon he's a comedian but he's I've actually never seen him do stand-up he's um a podcaster
00:27:54.520and it's kind of funny because i mean not i i don't agree with there's nobody on this planet
00:28:01.780i agree with all of their thoughts trust me um but tim and i sort of started off in the same place
00:28:08.260and started like veering off in the same places but anyway the all-in podcast guys love him and
00:28:14.220i just wanted to add a little bit of tim dylan into this mix owen because um because because tim
00:28:21.060tell us what happened what is happening yeah well what is happening i don't know uh one of
00:28:28.140donald trump's biggest supporters tucker carlson came out two days ago and said he's considering
00:28:32.560nuking iran that's happening i mean no no meaning what i mean very precisely is like
00:28:38.900what what is this is this a vote for democrats is this the vote against trump is it a vote against
00:28:43.600the cost of living is it what what how do you interpret it it's been said before we have an
00:28:50.340economic war that's disguised as a culture war, meaning that I think people that don't have
00:28:57.500the confidence in their economic standing are attaching meaning to a lot of things
00:29:04.900culturally where there is none. And I think it's a vote against the cost of living.
00:29:11.340I think it's a vote against, in some ways, the corruption that people see is inherent
00:29:18.080in the system right now that donald trump won um claiming that he was going to correct
00:29:25.540i think it's a vote against you know the the what what donald trump unfortunately has become
00:29:35.660which is the system this is a vote against the system um the same people that elected trump
00:30:43.920Yeah, I agree with that for the most part.
00:30:46.720I think most Democrats that voted that way, probably, number one, a lot of them were just Democrats and they would have voted no matter who the candidate was.
00:30:54.700And I think, but I would say probably the majority of them don't even know who they elected.
00:30:59.960Like they don't understand the radical nature of some of these candidates.
00:31:03.420I think we did see certain things, like we highlighted earlier, I think a couple days ago, about the Democrat politician or person that said, I'm going to vote for the Republican and that sort of thing. So certain people are noticing. But that's the minority. That's not most people. Most people, they don't really understand who these candidates are.
00:31:23.620most people who vote probably just show up and they see d next to the name and they check the
00:31:27.920box and you know they may just say well anything's better than a republican but again they're not0.91
00:31:32.800looking at what that anything is and so i don't think it's a vote for you know i want more islamists
00:31:38.100in our government or i want you know some radical dsa policy and frankly a lot of them if you
00:31:44.220explained it to them they'd probably be like i didn't know any of that even some of the islamists
00:31:48.020I saw a video recently that somebody said, like, they explained that El-Sayed at least claimed to be for, like, LGBT rights and stuff like that.
00:32:00.100And immediately the person was denouncing the person and saying, I didn't know that.
00:32:04.680And, you know, so even the people who you would think would be his core group don't really support him once they know what he's campaigning on and what he's promising.0.89
00:32:12.780And I fully expect that that was just a ruse by El-Sayed.0.82
00:32:16.540But again, he got away with it because he was trying to play both sides. He was on the one hand saying, hey, I'm this Islam guy, so all the Islam people can vote for me. And I'm also this socialist guy, so all the socialists can vote for me. But I also, oh, I support LGBT, you know, and so he's trying to just say whatever, we'll get him elected. And now we'll see what he really thinks or what he really wants to do.0.88
00:32:36.980but yeah you know i think most voters are just not very aware that you know people on this
00:32:42.660podcast are probably in the top one percent of how much you understand about these things and
00:32:47.620most people know very little about it most of the people i know don't know anything that's really
00:32:53.300happening and it's it's hard for us to reconcile because if you're somebody just watching the scott
00:33:00.340Adam's school or you watch podcasts or you're on X, you know, so much more than the everyday
00:33:06.280person. Imagine if you only got your news from like CNN or whatever, how, you know, your opinions
00:33:13.440are assigned to you. And it's like, this is what you should think about this and that. And it's,
00:33:18.000it's kind of scary because we're so under-informed and, um, and then we end up with
00:33:25.560elections like this. So it's just true and crazy. I did want to play this also. I mean,
00:33:31.780how pissed is everyone at Thune right now? And like the establishment, I mean,
00:33:37.060we should be. And I was watching Breaking Points and Emily Jashinsky was mentioning the
00:33:45.960establishment and just how backwards everything is going to be now for them. But take a listen.
00:33:51.720There are going to be a lot of establishment Republicans, the Mitch McConnell lovers here
00:33:55.020in Washington, who right now are kind of on their high horse because they're like, this guy that we
00:34:01.140hate, it's finally obvious that he torched the party. These are the same people, for what it's
00:34:06.560worth, who love data centers, the same people who wanted a war with Iran and got their way
00:34:12.240on the war with Iran. And so if they're going to be claiming victory for themselves over Trump,
00:34:17.940what they're going to miss in reading the tea leaves is how much of this is particular
00:34:22.280to Trump, particular to the meme coin rug pulls. What is that? That is anti-populist from somebody
00:34:28.620who was seen as a populist. It is a betrayal of more populist voters. Clearly, that's what this
00:34:34.360election was a referendum on. This isn't the resistance 2018 referendum. This is something
00:34:40.140different. This is about data centers. This is about corruption. This is about prices. This is
00:34:44.040about foreign wars. And so that coalition of establishment Republicans who are feeling
00:34:49.620smug and probably knocking back some bourbons right now really don't have a leg to stand on
00:34:54.900when it comes to celebrating this it's such a good point i mean so okay we hate trump and now0.80
00:35:02.440you know this was this was basically a mandate on the for the democrats um and so now you've got
00:35:09.200these people that are like the the democrats that are no data centers no progress like let's put
00:35:15.560elon in jail and elon made a post did you guys see it it says something about like oh i guess my
00:35:21.300space laser election machine didn't work or whatever because they all thought that he was
00:35:26.920going to somehow beam uh the republicans into winning and uh and then he just said you know
00:35:33.400and then elon wrote data centers in space seem like a really good idea right about now so you
00:35:38.940know the establishment yeah they're smug bunch and um you know you could thank them for i'm sure
00:35:47.100the john thunes of the world are taking exactly the wrong message out of this they're thinking
00:35:51.080oh this is our vindication if you had just gone against trump and gone our way with whatever
00:35:55.480candidate they would have preferred um that would have all been better but the exact opposite is
00:36:01.220true i think we need to finish getting rid of people like john thune and mitch mcconnell and
00:36:05.500you know getting more america first people i think that's something that a lot of people
00:36:09.940can rally behind if they can actually push for real populist policies and and changes and things
00:36:16.540that will really make our economy better and our lives better and keep us safer and all these other
00:36:21.360things that people really do want they want jobs they want you know the things that people really
00:36:26.200care about in their lives and i do think trump is trying to do a lot of those things and he has had
00:36:30.560at least some success with those things. The one thing that I might say was, you know, a mistake,
00:36:35.700at least politically, was that Iran war. And again, to her point, that was something that
00:36:39.460those people like John Thune and Mitch McConnell wanted. So I think if anything, we need to go much
00:36:44.780further into America first, make America great again, more of what Trump has been pushing for,
00:36:51.420and just less of the stuff that the deep state wants, because the more they're in that deep
00:36:56.160state mode, the more they look like just like the Democrats. And that's how I used to think about
00:37:00.480all of this when I, before I got really, you know, in more of a mode of caring about what was going
00:37:06.100on because for most of my adult life, I just didn't care because I looked at both parties and
00:37:10.200I said, they're both corrupt. They're both looking out for themselves. I don't really care where they
00:37:13.760spend my money because they're going to spend it either way. And it's not going to be on anything
00:37:16.980that's going to help me. So I'm just not even going to pay attention to that. I don't really
00:37:19.760care who the president is or any of that. And if they go back to that deep state mode, that's
00:37:24.780exactly what I will think again. It's like, why should I support a party that's not in it for me
00:44:13.440and I think it has to change from where it is now.
00:44:16.320Now, you know, again, some of this is just political perception, all that.
00:44:19.840And I have to mention, like, there are these structural things.
00:44:22.440We still have the media that's very far left.
00:44:24.920We have all these institutions that are pushing things left and a lot of NGOs that are still fighting to, you know, push propaganda and other things.
00:44:34.760And so there are still those structural things that are obstacles or challenges that we're going to continue to face.
00:44:49.840Right. And a lot of that is because the media never talks about his accomplishments. They only talk about the negatives. They talk about the gas prices. They talk about the Iran war. They talk about all the things that tend to look bad for Trump and not good for Trump. And I know Trump complains about that all the time. But, you know, just complaining about it doesn't make it better.
00:45:07.340And so I think that that's still going to be an issue. And I think really what he has to do is to actually get job numbers up and actually get prices to come down or at least not go up anymore and to allow people's wages to catch up with where inflation has taken us.
00:45:23.760And, you know, it's easy to say, oh, it's all Biden's inflation. I agree with you. But most Americans don't care. They're not going to say, oh, yeah, that was Biden's fault. They're just going to say it's not affordable. So screw you. I'm not going to vote for you when my life sucks.
00:45:38.320and so we need to do things that will make measurable improvements to the lives of most0.85
00:45:45.060Americans and improve their quality of life their standard of living and I think that's what would
00:45:51.340make a difference so that's I think what Trump should be pushing for and I but the core message
00:45:55.380of what Steve said I think I agree with which is get back to what you ran on get you know make sure
00:46:00.580that's the focus I don't want you focusing on what's going on over in the Middle East I don't
00:46:04.980want you focusing on Israel. I saw a story today that we're apparently going to stop giving money
00:46:09.500to Israel because apparently we were giving them something like $4 billion of aid and we're not
00:46:13.100going to do that anymore. So maybe that is a step in the right direction. And hopefully we can bring
00:46:19.720a rapid close to Iran and get back to focusing on domestic issues because I think that is what's0.79
00:46:23.900really most important right now. I don't think anybody, any average American or the typical
00:46:28.440American, I don't think they care about what's going on in the Middle East. They care about0.95
00:46:31.780what's going on here. And so focus primarily and maybe solely on that. And I think we'll do better
00:46:37.660next time around. Yeah. Apparently Trump made that announcement yesterday that he will no longer be
00:46:43.660giving the $4 billion to Israel. They can still buy our weapons. And then he made sure to clarify
00:46:51.860that it was Bibi's idea to stop giving them the money, which seems strange. So, you know, we'll
00:46:58.940see. I don't know. Then I was watching PBD, Patrick Bet David. He was doing election night
00:47:06.160stuff with a whole big panel and different people. I know some people in the chat like
00:47:10.440Steven Crowder. So I pulled a clip that has Steven Crowder and I agree with PBD at the
00:47:18.100end about Ron DeSantis and I'll see what you guys think. And we see a lot of fake news
00:47:22.420out there. So I think we need to separate real legitimate grievances and where this
00:47:26.420party has failed the wake-up call versus the manufactured issues versus the fake issues and
00:47:31.260my big concern is there's going to be the wrong takeaway because statistically historically we've
00:47:35.660talked about this with this kind of a flip there's an 80 chance that democrats win in 2028 but the
00:47:41.260more concerning thing is almost invariably without exceptions so if you talk about the tuckers and
00:47:46.400the 20s the marjorie taylor greene's the people saying sit out or vote democrat because we'll get
00:47:50.140someone better you're going to get a romney or mccain my concern is people look at this and they
00:47:55.140don't go hey this was a referendum on MAGA on Trumpism no longer no longer serving the movement
00:48:01.120but serving this sort of insular almost a new swamp but they think the Republican Party needs
00:48:06.760to moderate because that would be the wrong takeaway and that's my concern otherwise my job
00:48:11.560doesn't change right the fight goes on every day but what do you what's your major takeaway here
00:48:16.340I think Ron DeSantis is the big winner I think he is the biggest winner right now he's sitting
00:48:22.740ron and everybody is saying ron good for you why and i'll tell you why because all the other states
00:48:27.900lost byron donald looks like he won because of byron donald but byron donald's won good for him
00:48:34.720i'm not disputing anything about him running byron donald's won because ron de santa's crushed
00:48:40.760running the state of florida the way that he did the last eight years and he's now handing it over
00:48:46.380to somebody all six years whatever the time i think it's eight years so i think ron everybody
00:48:50.520in a state won. All the other people didn't. So this is an opportunity where Ron DeSantis,
00:48:56.140by the way, can you do me a favor? Pull up calcium Ron DeSantis right now. He's officially
00:49:01.680third. Okay. And by the way, he's going to move up very aggressively. So I think he was the winner.
00:49:08.280I think it was a rough night, maybe the roughest night. And I'm just watching to see
00:49:12.180how Trump's going to react. So Ron DeSantis, I think he, you know, this time he's like,
00:49:19.020better like kind of hang out and wait until you know the elections upon us but he um he seems like
00:49:26.860he's found some more charisma when he's speaking and he's making a lot of sense and i'm just saying
00:49:33.580you guys 2028 is our focus now and i think we have a lot of really good potential of people to run
00:49:48.940I mean, I think a lot depends on, you know, does Vance get sort of the nod from Trump and how does DeSantis look at that?
00:49:58.060You know, certainly there was all that controversy when he was going to run against Trump.
00:50:01.800And so I don't know exactly how to play out this time, but I do think he has a much higher chance now maybe than before.
00:50:08.460And I do think it's a great example of when you implement conservative policies and actually clean up a lot of the issues that people care about, make things safer. He obviously had a great record with how he handled COVID and all these other things.
00:50:21.900um so as a governor he's done a great job i i still think he might have some charisma issues
00:50:27.800and other things just in terms of how he would do as a presidential candidate but i do think i love
00:50:33.540his policy positions and i love the way he's executed that at least at the state level so
00:50:38.400i think he would be a good president i just don't know if he could win yeah and then again i'm
00:50:44.540thinking do we really need a lot of charisma the next time around i'm sort of charisma'd out at
00:50:50.740this point i don't know i mean no matter who it is it's not going to be trump right there's nobody
00:50:55.500like trump no i mean vance isn't anything like trump in terms of how he comes across to people
00:50:59.960rubio isn't anything like trump in terms of how he comes across to people so i don't think we're
00:51:04.500going to have another trump i mean you know if we if we were it would be like a don jr or somebody
00:51:08.660who is closer to that kind of makeup and i don't think that's likely at all so um but i think
00:51:14.680persuasion is still a dominant factor in politics. So someone who has better persuasion capability
00:51:22.440is much more likely to win regardless of policy. It's just the facts. I mean, Scott talked about
00:51:28.640that so many times. And so I think that's still true. It's still going to be true two years from0.71
00:51:33.540now. And so I think whoever we run for president, if we want them to win, they've got to have good
00:51:38.500persuasion and charisma is a big part of that. So I think it's still relevant as a factor.
00:51:43.360He has a good track record though. Like he's got a record to stand on too, which is good, but persuasion is huge for sure.
00:51:51.140I mean, he might make a good vice president for a candidate because they don't really need the charisma out of them, but I don't know if he wants to do that. So, you know, we'll have to see how it shapes up.
00:52:00.400Again, I'd love to see him have some bigger role in terms of setting policy and making things happen and all the things he seems to be great at. And if I could make a case or find a way to say, yeah, he can win, then great, let's do it.
00:52:15.080I'm not against Ron DeSantis in any way, but it's just my honest read about his potential politically is that I think he just doesn't come across as likable and as, you know, attention grabbing and all the other things that I think help Trump win.
00:52:32.460Because, again, you know, there probably could have been a lot of people that may have been as bold to take the types of positions that Trump was making.
00:52:39.100But without that charisma and without that messaging and without that persuasion skill that Trump that Scott pointed out about Trump, I don't think he ever would have made it.
00:52:47.720Yeah. I mean, I have there's a clip I'd love to play of him right now, but there's other clips I want to get to.
00:52:53.020If I could do a two hour show today, I would. I am going to go long today.
00:52:56.900Owen's got to leave on time. I'm going to go long, but I turned the chat back on just to see
00:53:04.120somebody say we need splashy dog, but splashy dog's not in the queue right now, but I do have
00:53:09.820this beautiful family photo. So if you guys have kids and a family, you know how hard it is to get
00:53:15.420everyone posed for the camera at the same time, but this little family's got help.
00:53:26.900oh my god that is crazy town right there that cat's like i'm not moving
00:53:50.960all right got it drag me out by my neck that that's that's amazing um and listen don't think
00:53:59.800i'm stopping at one remember we did the pit bull the other day getting his nail clipped and like
00:54:04.720no pit bull was hurt they just clipped the nail and he howled for five minutes look at these
00:54:10.800little groundhogs like talk about like being sympathetic one groundhog is having his nail
00:54:18.400clipped and the other one reacts so hard to it. Like they're shooting his friend and watch.
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00:58:10.580I think she's the strongest candidate that I see on the playing field right now.
00:58:14.520And I think if I were a Democrat, I probably would recommend that they go with AOC just because she does have that charisma.0.92
00:58:21.380She does have pretty high talent stack and persuasion.0.94
00:58:24.100And she speaks to that, you know, socialist sort of message without coming across as like being part of the Muslim Brotherhood. Right. Like so she can fake it probably better than an El-Sayed could. And I'm not recommending it. I don't want her to be president. So don't take anything I'm saying as supporting AOC. Right. But I just like and I do think there is a fair chance that it won't be her.
00:58:48.460And the reason is what we've seen. The Democrats select their candidate. They don't let the candidate get elected in a primary. And so they will probably do everything they can to keep AOC out because they don't want that to be their platform. They want the Kamala or the Biden or the person they can control.
00:59:05.060And I think they would probably look at AOC like the Republican Party looked at Trump and say, we don't want this guy. We don't want him to hijack our party. And I think that's what they would be afraid of is that if they put someone like an AOC in the presidency, that suddenly they are the socialist party. You can't get around it at that point.
00:59:22.380So I think there's a fair chance that they will be willing to essentially put their own chances of winning less because they want to have what they want to have and they don't care about just letting the people decide.
00:59:38.120And so I do think that AOC, of the players I know about, and there could be some new player that comes out, but of the player I know about, I think she would have the best chance.
00:59:47.840But I think there is also a fair chance that the DNC is going to say, no way, and we're going to shut her out, just like they shut out Bernie Sanders, and they selected Kamala, and they're going to try and select whoever they think is their candidate.
01:00:03.420And I hope they do that, because it means they're probably going to lose.
01:00:06.060I personally don't find her persuasive. She's got like a high-pitched baby voice.0.97
01:00:14.480She talks like, you know, like I'm a little girl and da-da-da-da-da.
01:00:18.500I can't, like, I just can't take her seriously. So she's not persuasive for me as a woman. I can't,
01:00:23.740I can't take her voice. And I just don't find her charismatic. I mean, do you? I honestly,
01:00:34.180I, and I'm not just saying that cause I don't like her. I just don't see charisma. I just see
01:00:39.360someone who's like a little bit of like a petulant idiot. I think, I mean, I, I certainly would say1.00
01:00:46.280like, she seems to a lot of people that she's like too young and, and it's probably aligned
01:00:51.360with what you're saying about how could she face up against Putin or, you know, all these other
01:00:55.300world leaders. But, you know, I think a lot of people said the same thing about Trump. And so
01:01:00.360I tend to think we're getting to the point where the young vote is really important, and I think she appeals to that segment a lot more and might get a lot more support there where she might not get quite as many from the older crowd, but we're all getting older.
01:01:16.620So, you know, those people tend to be a lot of them younger than us. And so I think, I do think she has a lot of persuasion skill. I mean, you know, American Debunk has been trying to point this out for a while that you better watch out. And Scott said the same thing. I mean, Scott pointed it out too, right?
01:01:34.780So I really do think she is a threat from that perspective, and I do think she has a lot of persuasion skill, and she probably will continue to get better at that.
01:01:46.100And so I think it is something to watch out for, and I hope she isn't the candidate.
01:01:51.620I hope the Democrats do select somebody else and push her out.