00:13:47.000becoming more accurate. I feel data starting to be credible and that's just one sip. Imagine if
00:13:56.960I finished that entire mug. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh, that would be dangerous. If you finish that mug,
00:14:06.000imagine what happened. Owen, how you doing over there? Did I just hear you
00:14:12.240gulp your your liquid down yes you did oh look at scott ritchie with the memes you guys if you're
00:14:20.420not on locals honestly consider subscribing it is hysterical over here it's i i can't remember
00:14:26.980if it's 17 cents a day or 19 cents a day it's 70 for the year it's scottadams.locals.com
00:14:35.440and it's just the best chat going they put the funniest memes they make real-time memes of us
00:14:41.380all the time. Scott Ritchie, especially. I'll have my little hoop earrings on by the end of
00:14:46.140the show. They're like this big and there's like a pineapple behind me. And then I've got big
00:14:50.240bouffant hair. It's a fun time over here. Lots of animal pictures, lots of inappropriate memes.
00:14:57.400You have to have a sense of humor to be over here. That's for sure. So welcome to the Scott Adams
00:15:03.360School. I'm Erica. Next to me is Owen and there's Marcella and the home team. We are here together
00:15:09.240again. You guys, Splashy Dog ran away, and I was like, here, boy, here, boy. I was looking
00:15:16.660for him forever. Oh, my God. Did you find him? I did. He's a good boy. Look, he came
00:15:22.360home. We needed him yesterday, but I found Splashy Dog, so he's back. I know everybody's
00:15:39.700happy. Yay. So Marcella, since you were gone yesterday, I didn't tell you I was going to do
00:15:47.900this, but if you would like to, you know, put in your two cents about yesterday in a way that makes
00:15:55.240us all feel non-suicidal, we would love it. So I figured out what happened, you guys. I have the
00:16:04.540solution. So yesterday, well, the day before that, did the Democrats win or did the Republicans lose?
00:16:14.740The question is important to answer. Depending on which movie you're watching, on one movie, you have the Democrats winning because it was a rejection of Donald Trump policies, of Republican policies, everything associated with it, and a support for socialism.
00:16:38.700On the second movie, we have Republicans losing because they failed to persuade that their lives were, that our lives were improving under them.
00:16:48.580But if the Democrats didn't need to, what if I told you the Democrats didn't need to convince you that they had better policies?
00:18:19.440But voters don't evaluate these things as military strategists do
00:18:24.860or even as we would do. Because when we talk about us, we are very informed, we know all the
00:18:33.320ins and outs of how many ships have been blown off in Hormuz Strait. But the general people that are
00:18:41.080voting, the majority don't really look into that. They see gasoline prices going up. They see
00:18:46.760uncertainty. They see another international problem with no obvious ending. And then they
00:18:52.940asked the simplest question, is my life better? And if the answer is no, that's a persuasion
00:19:00.040problem. But you would ask yourself, if Donald Trump is the persuader in chief, if he is the
00:19:08.480ultimate persuader, why did that not resolve the issue? Well, the problem that he encountered was
00:19:16.220a problem the persuasion could not solve. The problem is that persuasion met reality.
00:19:24.800And one of the issues that I see, and we can talk about what went wrong, but one of the issues that
00:19:32.280we see here is that when you're telling people to sacrifice, to do high gasoline prices,
00:19:41.400Americans have sacrificed for many wars. They've done World War One, World War Two,
00:19:48.120Korea, Vietnam, not so well, you know, but Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Iran, and people will,0.86
00:19:59.300Americans will sacrifice, we will sacrifice. However, you have to explain the reasons beyond0.64
00:20:05.620saying, we're going there for nukes. You also have to win them over. You have to persuade them
00:20:13.120that their sacrifice means something and that the end is inside. A lot of us, Owen, Erica,
00:20:19.920a lot of us in the chat have spoken many times about, is it going to end in three months? Is
00:20:26.520it going to end in two weeks? Is it going to, where are we going? What's next? You know,
00:20:32.980We don't even know where it's going. So if you outline to the American people, perhaps not an end date because you can't do that, but you outline to the American people some semblance of a plan of, okay, now the high prices are high. This is what we're going to do to Hormuz. It's kind of like they left it there.
00:20:54.420I saw a lot of Hormuz things that they wanted to do in the Strait of Hormuz to let the ships in, let the ships out, be able to do this, do that.
00:21:04.320But they needed to verbalize it more to the American people because it doesn't matter.
00:25:54.360And Estella has spoken. It's finished. But your success, again, is not determined by who wins elections. And it was just a persuasion problem.
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00:26:36.560Our fantasy commish says for him it's all about the friendships.
00:27:34.640And I don't think that's the right answer at all.
00:27:37.580I think if anything, we need to double down on America first.0.79
00:27:41.560And I think that's consistent with what you were saying, Mursav.
00:27:43.760I think that some of it was like energy,
00:27:48.440You know, how much energy are you bringing to people getting inspired that if they elect this person, good things will happen? And I didn't see much of that on the right. You know, there were certainly the team sport sort of things like, hey, let's get our person instead of their really bad person. But mostly it was focused on how bad the other side was, as opposed to how good it would be on our side.
00:28:07.140And, you know, I certainly do think the Iran war was probably the primary factor, but, you know, also just the economy. And I don't know that there was anything we could do about those things more than what Trump has done. I mean, maybe there was more.
00:28:22.440Iran. But I think the decision to enter and stay in the Iran war was probably, from a political
00:28:29.580perspective, the mistake. And I said yesterday, and I posted online and people are arguing with
00:28:34.360me about this, that if there was a real threat that Iran was going to have an nuclear weapon,1.00
00:28:39.680then it probably was worth it. To even say, okay, even if I lose the midterms,0.98
00:28:44.560I'm just going to do that because I can't allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon and then maybe bomb0.94
00:28:48.700Israel or even bomb us and maybe even start World War III. I mean, if I were in Trump's shoes and
00:28:55.160if I thought we had solid information, and again, I have no way of knowing whether that information
00:29:01.240is solid or how close they were. But if that was true, then I could see why you would say,
00:29:06.700okay, I'm going to sacrifice even if it means I don't have a Republican Congress for two years
00:29:11.020to make sure that, you know, that's not part of my legacy that I brought on the end of the world
00:29:17.060or I brought on a nuclear war, or I allowed someone who was ready to use a nuclear weapon
00:29:21.200on us or our allies to do that. So I think that was an element of this. But I think in terms of
00:29:28.060how to move forward, I completely agree. I think we should try and have the right policies and
00:29:33.140keep pushing to get good things done with executive orders or however we can. Obviously,
00:29:37.440nothing good is going to happen in Congress. But I also think some of the things that happened
00:29:43.480over the midterms may end up backfiring in 2028.
00:29:45.900And that's my hope, certainly, is that we can basically show
00:29:50.780that the Democrats didn't deliver on their promises
00:29:53.220and they did a lot of the bad things we were predicting
00:29:55.600and that the things we did were pushing things in the right direction
00:30:00.000and the things they're pushing for are pushing in the wrong direction.
00:30:02.920And if we can also improve the economy at the same time,
00:30:07.900and in theory, the Democrats are saying they're going to help with affordability,
00:30:11.140So let's see what they do. But if they're willing to actually make that happen, then that may actually help us too. And that's why I'm skeptical that the Democrats are actually going to do it. They're probably just going to spend all their time impeaching Trump and lawfare and all the other stuff. But that also might backfire. When you see that they said they were going to do all these great things, and then they spent all their time bringing Hegseth in front of a hearing or trying to impeach Trump, then people are going to say, what the hell? Why did I elect you if that's all you were going to do?
00:30:38.080So I think there is a silver lining, but I think there certainly is also a lot of work to do.
00:30:43.640Yeah. And like a lot of men are correctly, a lot of people are correctly saying the men stayed home.
00:30:50.360I agree with that. And, you know, we villainized men too much. We're villainizing the wrong, not we, but people are villainizing the wrong people all the time.
00:31:00.920um now it's going to be like let's go after elon and elon you know thought he safely landed in
00:31:07.800texas and putting his giga factory there and everything else and now he's going to have a
00:31:12.640hell of a problem in texas because who would have ever thought texas would turn
00:31:18.280completely democrat slash communist socialist whatever ist um that i never thought would
00:31:26.460happen. And I agree about persuasion. There was, there was like nothing persuasive from anyone
00:31:32.420about anything. Actually, it was very lackluster. There was nothing inspiring. I didn't hear
00:31:37.940anything from Ken Paxton and he had a lot of ground to make up with where he started. And again,
00:31:45.460you know, I don't want to get too into the weeds because it's just going to piss people off.
00:31:50.060I just can't do this again today. But I know. But, you know, anyone saying that it wasn't the war.
00:32:00.800It was the war. Let me just say that it was it was the war. I mean, Sean Hannity here. Here's
00:32:06.300Sean Hannity. Listen, if we as a country did not go into the war in Iran and that was not
00:32:13.180on the agenda tonight is this a much different race tonight i think 100 i don't think there's0.94
00:32:20.420any doubt about it so i'm just saying like it would have been nice sean hannity since you've
00:32:26.140said that uh trump is your best friend if you had said something sooner um you know and again it's
00:32:33.860like hannity has this habit of like telling us the truth after the fact and it makes me so angry
00:32:41.580but like I was talking to Marcella and I was like you know like okay let's just let's just say it's
00:32:47.700not Israel and it's Italy I'm not freaking out over Italy because I'm Italian I'm not like yes
00:32:54.640you know like put my country on the line for that other country you know I'm not like come on let's
00:32:59.720go you know and I don't get that it's like what are we doing like where did America go so I'm
00:33:06.680sorry. I'm sorry. I know. Like, listen, I do love President Trump. I have to say it so people don't
00:33:12.180freak out on me, but he didn't do what he said he was going to do. And I felt just like I felt when
00:33:18.140Obama was president, which is completely abandoned, ignored, not thought of, and just tossed aside.
00:33:26.160And that's just how I've felt. And, um, that the, the polls reflected that. So it was,
00:33:32.780it was Democrats and independents that put president in office, President Trump in office
00:33:38.380this past time. And those same people were like, well, I'm not doing that again. So, you know,
00:33:43.540they stayed home or they voted the other way. And I think a lot of Republicans also stayed home
00:33:49.440and voted the other way. And actually, ironically, the Jewish vote went, I think, 4% more to the
00:33:56.500Democrats. So, you know, it's just interesting, but we have to just get real about it and
00:34:02.980understand 2028 is really important. Um, go ahead, Marcella. No, what I was going to say is like,
00:34:09.580if in fact, like Owen was saying, um, and, and people have said that if Rand had a, we need to
00:34:17.180get rid of it because it'd be our own destruction. Um, I get that. Okay. Then explain to the
00:34:26.280American people where they need to sacrifice.
00:34:28.680Don't just say, well, it's just a little bit of gas, you know?
00:34:32.300So I think the dismissive language, the persuader in chief didn't get
00:34:37.020persuasive with that, with the challenge of, Hey, we got to get together.
00:36:37.800And so when you know things like, first of all, I don't have one friend who's not like, you know, in this sphere that was paying attention to a Venezuela war and thought it was good. You know what I mean? Like they're like a Venezuelan war. What are we doing? And then we go over to, you know, and the whole Gaza thing and the, you know, just going on and on and on and on.
00:36:59.060and then they see the images of innocent children being blown to smithereens. It's not a good look.
00:37:06.040It's not a good look. And then it's like, okay, now we're going to Iran. And it's like, wait,
00:37:11.080what is happening? Then you get like this, like I am hearing this stuff here and there. And like,
00:37:16.700what did we sign up for? And now all you know in your head is like, all right, well, I don't like
00:37:22.020any of this. And like my everything is tripling in price and I can't afford my life. And all I
00:37:28.780hear about are these wars. And then you also hear that our intelligence told President Trump
00:37:35.160that they were not on the cusp of having a nuclear weapon. They were like, we're in no
00:37:41.900danger of that. We're not, we're not, we're not. And then you hear Beebe saying, yes, you are,
00:37:46.980you are, you are. And it's like, well, whose intelligence are we listening to now? So if
00:37:51.800our people are saying no, no, no, and another country's people are saying yes, yes, yes,
00:37:56.660and then we go do that thing. Now I'm going to tell you right now, there's a lot of people that
00:38:00.900could be listening to this that are just, like I said, pro-Israel. Like if I was pro-Italy and
00:38:07.180they're going to be mad at me for saying that. But if you can't grasp the fact that the majority
00:38:12.320of people in this country and probably this world that are paying attention feel this way,
00:38:17.640you have a blind spot and you have a bubble. I swear, like, I love you all that are listening,
00:38:23.380but i'm just telling you the truth the the iran war was the problem it drove prices up and it
00:38:31.420drove people apart and and and the other thing that i want to say and then i'm done because i'm
00:38:36.820going to be i'm not even looking at the chat because i'm going to be in so much trouble
00:38:39.400but the other thing i want to say too like about the epstein files president trump did himself
00:38:45.620no freaking favors by having pam bondy come out and be like i have it all i have it all it's too
00:38:52.340gruesome to show. And then it's like, oh, I don't have anything. I was just saying whatever. And
00:38:56.960then she's gone. And then Trump says, he says to his base, if you're still hung up on the Epstein
00:39:05.220file and you're not moving on from it, I don't want your vote. I don't want you part of this
00:39:11.680party. And I was like, did he actually just say that? And let me tell you what,
00:39:18.280there are so many people that walked away that day.0.99
00:39:22.340Because it was like, yeah, sorry, but if we're going to be so pissed off about, I'll say the left, with the transgender and the drag queens and the disgusting pedo shit, and then as Republicans, we'll be like, oh, no, no, President Trump said to forget about all of the Epstein file children who have been trafficked and assaulted, allegedly, but we can't care about that.0.99
00:39:48.660you can go keep caring about the stuff the left's doing, but don't care about the stuff that the0.99
00:39:53.040Epstein files did. You lost the plot. So you either care about children, you care about
00:39:59.620pedophilia, or you don't. And I'm sorry if this rubs you guys the wrong way, but now I got to say
00:40:03.920it. It's off my chest. I wasn't planning on it, but there was a lot of issues at play. And so,
00:40:09.700you know, I feel like president Trump did an about face on the majority of his base. And if
00:40:14.920you didn't cling on to every little word he said and just go along with it he wanted no part of you0.96
00:40:21.360which to me sounds like the democrat party if you don't go along with every ridiculous thing that
00:40:26.440they say and do and you don't abandon your own morals and feelings then then they don't want you
00:40:31.940so all right that's the end of my scene owen what what would you like to say now to bring it home
00:40:37.620oh i mean i think you both have good points and i think you know it's again it's done i think it's
00:40:44.660time to move on and focus on what we need to do for 2028 in terms of politics. For anyone who is
00:40:50.020really engaged in saying, how do we make a difference? That's what we need to focus on.
00:40:54.560But I would go back to saying governing is different than winning elections. And I think
00:41:00.180some people get wrapped up around just how do we get control or how do we get the next election?
00:41:06.400And I really do think that at least in this case, from what I've heard from Trump, that just wasn't
00:41:11.100his focus when he decided to go into Iran. I don't think he did it to try and win points
00:41:15.580politically. I think it was the opposite, or not really the opposite, but I think he was just
00:41:19.440thinking, how do I do the right thing here? How do I make sure that this nuclear weapon doesn't
00:41:24.260get into the hands of our enemies so that they might use it against us? And so again, I feel
00:41:29.980like he and all of us paid the price for that. And I would agree that he didn't do a good enough job
00:41:35.460being persuasive about convincing us that this was necessary. But I do think he said a lot of
00:41:40.820the things that you pointed out, Marcel, I think he did say, we need to do this to prevent them
00:41:45.600from having a nuclear weapon. He just said it, I think, a day or two ago, saying I would even do
00:41:49.260it again, even if I knew I was going to lose midterms. And, you know, people might not like
00:41:54.060hearing that. And, you know, if you think that it was fake, and the intelligence was fake, then you
00:41:59.720might be justifiably pissed off about it. But I don't have that information. I don't know what
00:42:05.440classified information we have. So I would at least say there's a possibility that that was
00:42:11.420true and that he did the right thing. And I'm not going to abandon Trump or hate Trump or any of
00:42:15.540that because of this. I just hope that he does get back to focusing on domestic issues. And as I said
00:42:20.480before, I wish we did get out of this in March or April. And I hope we end this thing soon,
00:42:26.100whether it means we bomb the crap out of him again and end it, or whether we can kind of get
00:42:30.500some peace deal diplomatically. However, it has to happen. I think we just need to do that very0.79
00:42:34.620quickly and move on to saying, let's focus on what's important to the American people,
00:42:38.980affordability, get the gas prices down, get job growth, wage growth, all the things that
00:42:45.900regular people care about. And I think that is the core platform that a lot of people elected
00:42:50.480Trump to help with. And that's what they are going to vote based on. So no matter who runs
00:42:55.440on the Republican side or the Democrat side, I think that's going to be one of the key issues
00:42:59.620in 2028. I disagree that Trump spent a lot of his time talking about the Iran war. He said
00:43:07.240one-liners, two-liners. The main speech he gave on Monday in front of the reflecting pool was in
00:43:15.080regards to projects. And I know he mentioned it there in passing, but the projects that he's
00:43:20.640doing, the ballroom, the this, the that, the people don't, you know, I understand what he's
00:43:27.240doing. He, you know, and, and to be honest, I think Scott would think this is, this is his legacy
00:43:32.200in the future. We're going to see these buildings and he's going to remain forever, you know, but
00:43:38.160if you want to win a midterm, which I don't think he did, I don't think he wanted to win it so badly
00:43:44.660because I think you focus on the people and how to persuade them to know that their life will
00:43:53.000improve and their issues and they never gave much thought to the actual they never thought it was
00:44:00.880really that bad because in their in our bubble or in their bubble it's not as bad so on on that
00:44:07.960monday i think it was this monday that was a lot of time spent on talking about the projects of
00:44:15.480how beautiful it is how this and that and at the end of the day that is also another nail in the
00:44:22.820often because it's like oh okay yeah okay you have a nice building and i have no money to you know
00:44:32.460do x y and z with it so um i think that that persuasion needs to keep on going while he is
00:44:42.580president you know what i want to do the ballroom but don't talk about it just go do it i don't need
00:44:48.420to see the beam being signed. Just do your ballroom. You did that yesterday. I know. Nobody
00:44:54.280gives a shit. I think we could all agree we need a ballroom. Yes, a thousand percent. It'll be0.99
00:45:00.640great. I don't want to hear about it. I don't want to hear about it right now. You know what I want
00:45:06.280to hear about? I want to hear about how we fix this. Here's New York City, okay? This is New
00:45:10.880York. These are the Muslim elected officials in New York, okay? I don't care about the freaking
00:45:16.580ballroom i don't want i don't care that you're standing in front of the freaking pool you know1.00
00:45:22.420it's like it's insulting like we're not stupid you can't be like look shiny object dumb people0.98
00:45:28.020look over here it's it's like enough okay but you know what we can we can we can overcome0.91
00:45:35.060we can overcome we're going to overcome we are going to overcome we have to we did not
00:45:40.260We did not lose everybody. Nobody just became, oh, we're going to transition. All of us are
00:45:46.860going to transition. And we love crazy ladies that are always drunk while talking. No, no,1.00
00:45:53.720no. They just need to be persuaded. And as we know, the Democrats will hang themselves with
00:45:59.960their own policies. Marcella and I did not go on Amazon yesterday and order our hijabs. Okay.
00:46:06.080it's not happening it's not happening i thought we were working on an arabic translation well
00:46:11.820yeah i i you know maybe maybe i'll get i think yoan likes this whole like let's put let's
00:46:17.860submissive women down yeah i don't know he's like oh i did see i think it was that comedian ben
00:46:25.100ben is it i forget his last name it starts with a b but i don't remember but the you know he was
00:46:29.600he's that conservative comedian that um has a lot of good things to say and he was just laughing
00:46:34.980about how, you know, it'll be fun to watch as they take away all the women's rights and all
00:46:41.280these places where they elected the Islamic people and to watch all the woke people realize
00:46:46.480what they just voted for. Yeah, it would be interesting. Can I give you guys a moment of
00:46:52.540Zen from the Jersey Shore? You know, I like to intermittent Zen. This is the Jersey Shore
00:46:58.840yesterday morning. Behind Our Nation's Defense is a powerful network of Canadian communities
00:51:15.920It's just so exhausting. I have to tell you, here he comes. Um, so Marcella, what do you think about
00:51:22.060what Greg said? I mean, I think, I think that he's exactly right. Well, I, I wish I could say
00:51:28.360that he's exactly right, but the, the, the examples he used are not the losses that we had, um, this
00:51:36.220time. This, these losses are a lot bigger. Um, some, someone was saying that Kansas, I think
00:51:43.080when wizard of oz was going on they they didn't have the republican since then
00:51:48.120oh there you see our thumbnail today just for you kansas oh and dog bird oh yeah it was a good um
00:51:57.640so i would say i would hope that he's right however there is a few things that i do have
00:52:05.640to point out and not to be negative nanny here but the senate has the majority democrat and that's
00:52:15.880six years that's a lot more than four years that is a lot and on top of that the senate has that
00:52:23.080beautiful job the constitution gave it which is to approve judges that go on to the supreme court
00:52:31.640and there is a few justices and judges that are getting older that are conservative
00:52:39.960and they will have to last six years i know we have a problem with the supreme or you do it now
00:52:45.320or you do it now how are they going to push that through right now they should try problem yes the
00:52:51.960problem that they they need to figure that out that because i know that justice alito wants to
00:52:57.880retire and he said that as far as i know he's he's talked about it um not because he's older
00:53:05.480just because you know people want to retire so um normal people um yeah so owen that's a problem
00:53:13.320you know are you looking forward to the law fair although it is like i'm i'm saying is kind of a
00:53:19.800this is what you can expect from democrats and hopefully for 2028 people won't vote for more
00:53:25.240of that yeah well i mean that is what i'm expecting and that that's what i am hoping0.96
00:53:30.520will happen is that they'll they'll just make themselves look like fools they'll be out of
00:53:34.120touch with the american people as they have been and they'll be doing what's best for them or what0.79
00:53:40.520they think is best for them and um as opposed to actually trying to help people and make people's
00:53:47.080lives yeah and so i think i'm i'm expecting nothing to get through congress i think there
00:53:52.680There may be some persuasion battles along the way, like they could do something like Medicare for all and try and convince everybody that's the best thing ever.
00:53:59.160And we'll have to counter that sort of thing to make sure people recognize how much of a disaster it would be so that when Trump vetoes it, it doesn't spill over as bad things for other Republicans and the next candidate.
00:54:09.840But I think, you know, it's still, I'm not worried about legislation getting through because I don't think Trump will let it. But I think there will be lots of that theater and lots of just lawfare, other things going on. And so it's going to be, you know, fun to watch as the Democrats fall on their face.
00:54:30.180Yeah. One other, I think, important thing for us to to talk about, just because this is been all over the news, was yesterday J.D. Vance put out a long post about, you know, his postmortem on the election and what he thought, you know, went wrong.
00:54:46.680And, of course, at the top was the war, that the war was a problem, he, I believe, correctly and accurately stated.0.58
00:55:24.620He said, I did it and it might have affected the election, but I would have done it again
00:55:28.240because it was the right thing to do for our national security.
00:55:30.240Dasha called him on her show yesterday and he said the same thing.
00:55:33.240He's been saying over and over again it was the right thing to do.
00:55:35.220I didn't see Vice President Vance say it was the right thing to do.
00:55:38.140I didn't see him say Donald Trump is one of the most courageous presidents in my lifetime
00:55:42.000because he took this very difficult political decision and put the country
00:55:44.940ahead of his own political interests. 47 years Iran has been waging war on us.
00:55:49.860He's the first president to fight back. I didn't hear any of that. All I heard0.99
00:55:52.680was we lost because of the Iran war and if you want to defend that go ahead. But0.99
00:55:56.280but but you better make that case. Well that's the exact case that Donald Trump
00:56:01.140is making. He's saying it was it was the right thing to do. Why is his vice
00:56:04.680president saying something different? Because he wants to run for president.
00:56:07.980Well he needs Donald Trump's endorsement to run for president or he's not going
00:56:11.820to get the nomination and if i was the vice president i would not be taking a a line contrary
00:56:16.840to donald trump when it comes to the iran war right now well he also said the president did
00:56:20.860that ew okay first of all ew mark theseon okay what's wrong with that guy i i can't he's a neocon
00:56:31.360just he's a hater um so what pisses me off look i'm getting hot for real is that so i mean maybe
00:56:40.300JD is running for president. We don't know yet. Marcella likes this, you know, we don't know yet,
00:56:45.760but first of all, to say that he needs the endorsement of president Trump to win is not
00:56:54.240true. Okay. It's not true. It might've been true if this was, you know, another time, but it's not
00:57:00.340true. And, you know, not being loyal to Trump, uh, is being, being loyal to someone to your own
00:57:09.400detriment and to a fault it's just stupid and when you see an election come back like it did i mean0.99
00:57:16.440this was yes a bloodbath and you're gonna not admit what the problem was and then you want to1.00
00:57:24.280run for president you're not qualified then if you can't say the quiet part out loud then you're not
00:57:30.600qualified to run you can't recognize a problem if you don't right oh and if you don't recognize
00:57:34.920a problem how are you going to fix it um so wait wait a second what are the odds that vance posted
00:57:43.440that without showing it to trump first oh yeah he showed it you know so that's if trump said
00:57:49.060that's disloyal i don't think you could post that he wouldn't have done it absolutely he's giving
00:57:53.300vance the space to have a different position he's saying let me take the hit on this i'll talk about
00:57:58.680it this way you can say your different opinion you can set the new direction for the country
00:58:03.260We all know the Iran war is going to be over in two years. So go ahead and say you're against it. It's not going to hurt me. It's not going to hurt you. And it'll give you a platform to run on for president. It's the exact opposite of what happened with Kamala, where she's like, couldn't name anything that was different than Biden. And everyone said how idiotic that was. Why would you turn around and say doing the exact opposite is a bad thing?
00:58:25.040yeah oh yeah and trump knew about like he even said yes i i know about it i knew about it
00:58:30.640and i think it was good he said yes and then this is what i said yesterday when i played the megan
00:58:36.600kelly clip that flipped everyone out where she said i hope president trump gives vance and
00:58:42.580perhaps rubio the space now to distance themselves from how he felt about the war because we know the
00:58:50.300war is a big problem. So yes, this is the space he needs now to separate himself to run. And
00:58:57.880the, the vice president, you guys would never write a lengthy post like that without running
00:59:06.160it through the president's people on the president first. Okay. Like they coordinate everything
00:59:11.360and, and Owen's right. Trump knows like for lack of better words, I hate the term, but he is a lame0.98
00:59:17.380duck you know well in another month and a half he'll be a lame duck um and so yeah you know it's0.98
00:59:24.300okay but mark these and so disingenuous because they just cannot bring themselves to say anything0.90
00:59:30.380negative about this war because they want the war to go on owen yeah i mean it's just i i think
00:59:38.460me this was a very deliberate step to set jd vance up to run for president it was a it was a
00:59:45.420calculated political statement to say this is my view i did you know and i don't think he said
00:59:50.700anything explicit like i you know i fought trump on this or anything but i think he he was saying
00:59:55.760look my position is different on this and he was making it clear that he thought the war was a bad
01:00:00.420thing or a mistake or that we shouldn't be there and he was just basically again creating some
01:00:06.460space for himself to say this is going to be my agenda if you elect me here are the things i think
01:00:11.460we should be focusing on and it's just smart to do yeah marcella no and and that's one of the0.94
01:00:18.680reasons why i was like why is mark these insane all this he's not dumb enough to not to know that
01:00:24.540jd vance when he posted this on x he's not going to run it by president trump it's kind of like0.64
01:00:32.760i don't know what game he's running but i don't understand why he would say the things he said
01:00:38.400when we all know that nothing goes out from J.D. Vance without checking with the president. So
01:00:44.580I don't know. My guess is Thiessen just doesn't like Vance. And so he was just doing that to
01:00:51.880hurt Vance. He's a Rubio guy, I'm sure. Well, I think he might be someone else's guy, a complete
01:01:00.840neocon maybe i don't think he's a rubio guy either um i i don't know i can't speak for him but
01:01:07.840one thing is i would say is that what jd vance posted is not enough if it just stays there
01:01:15.280uh as a post that there needs to be the things that he listed those need to be resolved those
01:01:22.160things need to be resolved uh for it not to affect him and it was a thoughtful post i feel like and
01:01:30.500yeah, it had, he had to put it out there, but for Mark Thiessen to be like, it was just loyal to
01:01:35.360the president. Like, Oh, stop clutching your pearls, please. Um, Oh, what? He's splashing on
01:01:47.080me. That sound is so good. I love it. Um, okay. So what else did I, I mean, we had a whole different
01:01:54.940type of show plan but here we are um oh the only other thing okay so the only other clip i wanted
01:02:01.580to make sure i got to um dave rubin was speaking with chris rufo who we've showed before i really
01:02:07.680like him um and you know remember when aoc was like oh my god woke one was nuts and i'm like
01:02:15.840if anyone did not interpret that as wait till you see woke two because that's how i took it
01:02:22.660immediately people were like oh now she's admitting being woke i'm like no no no that was
01:02:27.380like her pretense to like wait till you see woke too um that's my belief i said it then i'm saying
01:02:33.540it now but here's uh dave and chris speaking and then marcel i'll come to you first did we make a
01:02:40.980mistake i mean was there a hiccup here that our side didn't get right in in burying woke it's like
01:02:46.020we sort of got rid of it it felt like oh it was kind of get you could turn on a disney movie
01:02:49.780suddenly and it wasn't completely infected with this stuff. I mean, what else were we supposed
01:02:55.380to do to not end up in this place that we seem to be in? Yeah, look, I mean, woke, you know,
01:03:00.320we discredited the woke ideologies in the realm of public opinion, but we didn't, you know,
01:03:04.900essentially get rid of all the personnel and the institutions. And so it's the same people. So just
01:03:10.140like Tallarico, Tallarico kind of feigned a post-woke. He restrained his rhetoric. He dialed
01:03:17.300back his campaign platform uh but fundamentally we have the same people in the institutions
01:03:22.900and the president did a good job eliminating dei within the federal government pushing
01:03:27.780corporations and other institutions to dial it back but ultimately for example in the universities
01:03:33.540the people just went into hiding they changed the names they changed their language they they
01:03:38.660they kind of took cover for a number of years um but fundamentally we didn't change the structure
01:03:45.700of the state. We didn't change the structure of the institutions, universities, NGOs. We simply
01:03:52.240tamped them down temporarily. And so this has been a critique that I've been trying to raise,
01:03:57.160you know, since day one of the administration, we actually have to change the structure of the
01:04:02.020institutions. That's unfortunately not easy to do. And so woke has been waiting, plotting,
01:04:09.700stalking. And I think it's going to come roaring back and we're going to have another fight on
01:04:15.260our hands go ahead marcella yeah woke has never woke has changed names you know i think sometimes
01:04:24.740when when there was like oh we got rid of the dei program in this corporation and then they like
01:04:31.820went in hiding or how wufo said it but also under a different name like diversity or inclusion
01:04:40.780there's still in in california to be a lawyer some of the things that you have to do the classes
01:04:48.340at the mcle's as we call them some of them have to be like diversity or inclusion the judges have
01:04:55.600to watch all of that that's like law you know so like all of these things haven't gone away they
01:05:03.060haven't tempered they what i would say is like he was saying talla rico did temper it down
01:05:10.820If you didn't look close enough, you could potentially be misled as, you know, he did what he needed to do, right?
01:05:22.100But I really think a lot of them are going to tone it down at first, but then they're going to show their true color.
01:05:34.260Oh, I definitely think Rufo is right that they are biding their time.
01:05:37.480They're really hoping that they're going to have a Democrat president so they can rewrite Title IX again and reverse every single executive order that Trump had.
01:05:45.460And that's why I've been saying for a while that it would have been much better if we could have put this into law as opposed to just executive orders, because that's a lot harder to turn around.
01:05:54.420So I think it's a huge risk because none of that has happened.
01:05:56.920The Republicans were not effective in Congress when they had control of it.
01:05:59.580They didn't pass all these laws that they should have passed.
01:06:02.920They could have eliminated the filibuster.
01:06:04.200I heard recently that Chuck Schumer is about to eliminate the filibuster, so they may be doing it anyway on the Democrat side now that they have control. And so I think that was a mistake. I wish we would have gotten rid of Thune earlier and fixed that and gotten rid of the filibuster where we could have actually pushed legislation through and made a lot of these things permanent as opposed to just executive orders that can potentially be reversed.
01:06:27.260And so I think it is something we need to watch out for.
01:06:29.920And I fully expect that if someone, if a Democrat does win in 2028, that's exactly what we're going to see.
01:06:35.440I'm really hoping, and that's why 2020 is so important, that if a Republican wins, at least all the executive orders can stay roughly the same.
01:06:43.480And, you know, if the Republican wins, that probably means we'll also get control of Congress again.
01:06:49.540So, you know, we would have another at least two years to get some good things done.
01:06:54.480But, again, that's not an easy task. There's a lot of work to do. I think we need to run the right candidates. We need to run America First candidates, none of these rhinos. I heard that Speaker Johnson is stepping down as a minority speaker. He doesn't want to do it. So I think Jim Jordan has put his hat in the ring, which would be –
01:07:16.540Yeah, and again, I don't know that they're going to be able to do much as a minority leader, but my point is, if you could get people that actually would do effective things into these positions, and if we did regain control of Congress in 2028, then it could be a very good thing for the country.
01:07:33.100And so I think we should be focusing on that from a politics perspective, but certainly from a DEI woke perspective, I don't think they went away. I don't think they're gone. I think they're just hiding.
01:07:45.240And so as soon as they can get the funding back and everything else, they're going to do it.
01:09:21.540But if it's just trying to replace Americans, if it's saying, oh, yeah, you're all just going to be on a universal basic income and you're going to get a check.
01:09:29.760So I think we need to bring some more some balance to the Republican view of how you handle big tech.
01:09:35.940And here's the thing. They'll throw these. I just don't like to be gaslit.
01:09:39.880Like, tell me the truth. So during covid, you had all this crap people were spewing Fauci.0.99
01:09:44.480And it wasn't true. One of the things they'll say with the tech stuff is, oh, well, we've got to beat China.0.98
01:09:49.180We've got to be China. Now, look, I'm a China hawk. Like I think the CCP is a threat. But,
01:09:53.920you know, you have some of these big companies like Oracle. They built the biggest data center
01:09:58.200in Asia and Singapore for the Chinese AI stuff. I mean, NVIDIA, they want to sell chips to China.
01:10:04.320So like Silicon Valley is not trying to beat China and trying to join them. Silicon Valley
01:10:09.340is trying to make money. And honestly, I don't blame them because they have fiduciary responsibility.
01:10:13.780Their shareholders, if they're a public company, especially to maximize value. So don't tell me
01:10:18.640that's the reason so i just think we need some balance i think the democrats have been able to
01:10:22.740outflank the republicans they're running ads in florida and in other that we don't have any
01:10:27.660hyperscale data centers in florida but but they're using that against our candidates and in place
01:10:32.340like ohio we may lose the u.s senate race there because of the hyperscale data center issue so i
01:10:39.280in florida i got the legislature to pass a law to say local governments have a right to reject them
01:10:45.080outright for whatever reason they want and utilities cannot increase anybody's rates because
01:10:50.520of a large load customer like a hyperscale so we don't have any in florida because they did want
01:10:54.780subsidies you do it so we got to have some balance we got to recognize that there's potential harms
01:11:00.000from the technology and i don't think you shut it down like bernie said but to just say that
01:11:05.040they should be able to have it basically an amnesty from accountability that's not the right policy
01:11:10.540It's also not popular. So as Republicans go into the next election cycle, if the Dems are on offense on this, they're going to be able to get voters who had traditionally been more conservative.
01:11:21.500See, during the Biden years, if you were center right, they weren't offering anything for you.
01:11:26.120And it was woke this woke that. Well, if they're going to now go, hey, we're going to we're going to stand up for you, protect you against some of the excesses of big tech.
01:11:33.940the flock cameras you know i ordered those i ordered those down off um off the thing because
01:11:39.160you know that we we used to have license plate readers at like a toll booth and they would send
01:11:42.880you things now they're collecting all the data of everyone that passes that camera and they know
01:11:48.680hey yeah you go to wawa twice a week and all that what the hell do they have a right a private
01:11:52.920company be collecting this data so there's the issue sets are changing and i just think republicans
01:11:58.540need to be wise to that we do best as a party when we are standing for small business folks
01:12:05.200you know people that are working hard when we get into corporatism that's when you really start to
01:12:11.460lose people don't be a corporatist don't just be aligned with a handful of big companies don't be
01:12:16.320a crony capitalist you know the best way to end up in a socialist country is to push crony capitalism
01:12:23.420OK, because that will take all these young people.
01:12:26.140They're going to choose Mindami over a crony capitalist any day of the week.1.00