00:07:08.700yeah i'm not even gonna you guys you guys just think i'm nuts already about like hugging a tree
00:07:13.020and this i don't even know if i ever told you about my goldfish i probably did and i shouldn't
00:07:16.460have um but no i had a stink bug that was like in this little area of my bedroom where like i would
00:07:22.300like blow dry my hair and whatever and it was there for like four days and i named him stinky
00:07:28.140of course and i was just like you can hang out like i don't think you're gonna bug me at all
00:07:32.460no pun intended and he was there for like four days i don't know what happened to him but
00:07:36.380I thought he was kind of cute. All right. Anyway, that was way too much. Okay. So I figured first,
00:07:44.340Owen, let's just do a quick, quick Iran update because Trey Youngst has one and I think we
00:07:50.880should check it out. And, uh, and then we're going to move into Trump's performance on 60
00:07:58.260Minutes. But first a word on Fox news from Trey Youngst. President Trump has indicated that
00:08:03.940STRIKES AGAINST IRAN ARE UNLIKELY IF TALKS DO CONTINUE TO PROGRESS.
00:08:08.460NOW, THE PRESIDENT WILL MEET TODAY WITH THE QATARI PRIME MINISTER IN THE OVAL OFFICE.0.65
00:08:12.780QATARI MEDIATORS HAVE PLAYED A CRITICAL ROLE IN TRYING TO GET TOGETHER SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT
00:08:17.960THAT COULD DE-ESCALATE RISING REGIONAL TENSION.0.61
00:08:20.580NOW, THIS DEAL WOULD ADDRESS WHAT REMAINS OF IRAN'S NUCLEAR PROGRAM0.68
00:08:23.740AND CONTINUED ATTACKS IN THE STRAIGHT OF HORMUZ.
00:08:26.220THIS WEEKEND, MULTIPLE EXPLOSIONS WERE HEARD IN SOUTHERN IRAN AND ON KESHIM ISLAND
00:08:30.580AS U.S. FORCES CONDUCTED DEFENSIVE STRIKES WHILE THE IRGC CONTINUED ATTACKS IN THE STRAIGHT.
00:08:36.400THE OPERATIONS DO COME AS CENTCOM SAYS U.S. FORCES FIRED ON A COMMERCIAL VESSEL IN THE GULF OF
00:08:41.280OMAN THAT ATTEMPTED TO BREACH THE NAVAL BLOCKADE. CENTCOM ALSO ANNOUNCED A NEW LAND BLOCKADE OF
00:08:46.500IRAN CALLED TASK FORCE IRON GATE AIMED AT DISRUPTING IRAN'S ABILITY TO MOVE ADVANCED WEAPONS
00:08:51.960SYSTEMS ACROSS LAND BORDERS. IRANIAN OFFICIALS CONTINUE TO TAKE A THREATENING TONE WITH THE0.70
00:08:56.880country's foreign minister saying in a post on x quote our two-day proposal stands meet the
00:09:02.060requirements including end to war on all fronts and you will see results he goes on to say or
00:09:07.820choose war and see our alert and battle-hardened warriors rain down hell all right i feel like i
00:09:16.500should just move on i don't even know what to say about it anymore you know do you i mean i my
00:09:24.880understanding is that Besant has been continuing the sanctions and trying to lock down their
00:09:29.120economy basically so that they can't really survive economically. And I don't know how
00:09:34.180effective that'll be, but it may be even more effective than some of the other military methods.
00:09:40.040Because as I understand it, it's kind of like they can't really get any oil revenue and they
00:09:44.020can't really, you know, essentially pay anybody because almost all their revenue comes from that
00:09:49.680oil. And then they're doing these third party sanctions and on other countries. And so now
00:09:54.220they're resuming military strikes on Keshem, which is, I think, where they process a lot of
00:09:58.460the oil. So it seems like it's just kind of like shutting them down and seeing how long they last.
00:10:03.000It's kind of like a siege. And so that's the way I look at it right now is that Iran is still doing0.99
00:10:09.160their threats and we're not giving up and you got to give in to our demands. And of course,1.00
00:10:13.520Trump's not going to do that. So it's going to continue. And we'll see who gives up first. And
00:10:20.300And, you know, I tend to think we can probably last longer than them at this point.
00:10:24.320But I do still feel like I want this thing done.
00:10:27.580And I'm glad that they're at least trying to get some kind of diplomatic, you know, inspection based end to the war, whatever it has to be.
00:10:34.680So my hope is that we can put an end to the fighting soon and we can just wrap this thing up.0.72
00:10:39.680But we'll have to see, you know, how Iran responds.
00:10:43.100Did you think, Owen, that we were in danger from Iran before this war? From what you've read, I mean, I'm sure we both have seen different information, but did you think that they had a nuke or were that close to having it? Or do you think what our intelligence personally, they said, they're not?
00:11:06.960I mean, I have said this many times, I can't know the truth because it's all classified. You don't really know what the real information is. But I do think that there's reason to believe they may have had good intelligence because it does seem like Israel was all over Iran with people. Like just they seem to have such great information about all these things. And, you know, they had their whole pager thing and all these other things that they were able to do.
00:11:28.960and so i i would at least say it's plausible that they would have some good information about what
00:11:34.400was going on there and the reports that they released again i have no way to verify them but
00:11:39.760the reports was that they had enriched uranium to a pretty high level and i think it was maybe
00:11:45.360something like 50 or 60 or something like that and that and that the problem with that is that
00:11:49.920going from that 50 or 60 to the 80 or 90 or whatever you need to actually build a nuclear
00:11:55.120bomb doesn't take very long like the hard part is getting it from you know the lower percentages to
00:12:01.240that middle point and it sounds like they had done that and so that created some urgency to say oh it
00:12:06.840could just be a couple weeks of centrifuges or whatever it is to do that and then they would
00:12:12.140suddenly have the material they need and once they have it it's kind of hard to you know yeah
00:12:16.700but you know it's like it's hard like you said it's hard to know what the truth is because0.58
00:12:21.480on one hand, I'm playing, I'm sort of playing devil's advocate, but like on one hand, Israel
00:12:27.080has a good reason to want us to go into war to help them with Iran because of proximity. But then
00:12:35.400our own intelligence like Tulsi Gabbard and I'll say Joe Kent and, you know, some people, a lot,
00:12:43.520actually a lot of people said, no, they don't, they don't have the capability now. They're,
00:12:47.860they're not even close um you know so i just wonder because it it does seem like the majority
00:12:54.900of people whether you know what you guys like whether whether it was like a threat or not
00:13:01.640i think we can agree that the war and the way it turned out and how it affected
00:13:08.420all of you know america i'll just speak for america um really did have a lot to do with why
00:13:16.220We lost the elections. And it's like, you know, not everything should be about elections, but the elections come and go whether we want them to or not. So unfortunately, like, I don't know, it's like the timing of our elections and the way things happen. It's like, how are you supposed to get anything done when you always have some kind of election looming?
00:13:36.940and then it's like well then so do we protect america yes or no because then we might not win0.99
00:13:44.200the election and then it's like well you know it's it's all very stupid um i don't know like0.98
00:13:50.480i don't know like how you could burn down the system and build it over i mean i feel like0.96
00:13:54.080maybe there could be like a third party option unlike the third party options we've had in the
00:14:00.780past i don't think it's like an independent party i think it's going to have to be an america first
00:14:05.580party, because right now I don't, you know, I don't think either party is pushing America first.
00:14:11.860They're just kind of like donors and lobbyists. And, you know, every time I listen to the news,
00:14:18.360it's like, well, you know, the donors aren't going to like JD now, and those donors aren't
00:14:23.600going to like Marco Rubio. And I'm like, what about the people? What about the people?
00:14:28.840Yeah. Well, that's maybe leads into the Kelly Means story that's all over the place now where he's saying that there's all these structural problems with money kind of calling the shots, essentially, of what our government does.
00:14:43.160And I know there's people threatening lawsuits now around that for defamation and all those other things, but I don't doubt that what Kelly Means says is probably pretty close to the truth.
00:14:54.840actually do cali means on wednesday because it's it is interesting and i'd like to gather some
00:14:59.800information about that and have time to present it but yeah i mean it's just like you know i just
00:15:05.400the system the way we do it the way the elections come it's just you can't get anything done but i
00:15:11.720mean as it relates to this issue of the iran war i i you know i've said i kind of am giving trump
00:15:17.480the benefit of the doubt that he at least believed that there was a real threat there now i i don't
00:15:23.240know whether there was or not and i certainly think there's also reason to suspect that there
00:15:28.680is the military industrial complex that might have been going for war and people like mitch
00:15:34.200mcconnell and others that are just warmonger types that want to just bomb everything they can see
00:15:39.640and that there could have been some bias or some coloring or even just some faking of evidence i
00:15:45.800you know we certainly seem to have done that in iraq with the weapons of mass destruction and
00:15:49.880And I don't know if we'll really ever know the truth in terms of what Iran had, because supposedly it's all buried under rubble now.0.52
00:15:56.500And even, you know, unless they uncover it and can somehow, you know, show us the Geiger counters or something, I'm not sure how they would prove to us what was there.
00:16:05.100And so, you know, I understand why people would be suspicious, because there are all these entrenched interests that want us to just have a war going on all the time.
00:16:14.660And I've said that in the past. It's like, OK, we're getting out of Afghanistan. What's coming next?
00:16:19.880there's going to be something. Yep. You can't have a little void of just peace and quiet for
00:16:25.780a minute. So President Trump, it was his turn to be on 60 Minutes last night. And I just thought
00:16:34.040we'd break it down because we're speculating about everything after the midterm. So why not
00:16:40.360hear from the man himself? And so we're going to go through some clips and then we'll chat about it
00:16:46.800along the way. So the first, this is just a clip on immigration and his policies and what he thinks
00:16:56.360now. Let's take a listen. Message. We couldn't get the word across. Whether it was the message
00:17:02.620or the record, the Republican collapse will give Democrats in Congress new powers over budgets,
00:17:08.940hearings and subpoenas. You came out after the midterms. You congratulated the Democrats. You
00:17:14.920said that you are open to working with them true what is one thing you would like to work with a
00:17:19.640democratic majority i'd love to do something on immigration what because well so do you think
00:17:26.320immigration hurt you i do you think the crackdown i think it both helped and hurt i think i got an
00:17:32.260a plus for closing up the border i get very high marks for getting the bad ones out but i get hurt
00:17:38.140because we also took people that had good jobs that that created one violation or breaking
00:17:45.900of the law and that was that they came into the country illegally now there is a large
00:17:50.260part of the country that think that they should be put out and there's a large part of the
00:17:55.020country that think that they should be allowed to stay if they're good people working in
00:17:58.780a landscaping company or working in a hotel or doing something right and in some cases
00:18:05.580paying taxes and there's a large group of people think that they should be allowed to
00:27:14.640We can just leave them there indefinitely.
00:27:16.040this whole thing those countries that we've protected are going to pay us back any and all0.97
00:27:21.640costs that we've had for the war because without us they wouldn't exist without us israel wouldn't0.69
00:27:26.520exist let me tell you israel tell me tell me about would not exist except for donald trump0.68
00:27:33.000because we went in with those beautiful b2 bombers more than a year ago and we hit the
00:27:39.080three sites at the time all right so i don't know i mean we are babysitting the ships in my opinion
00:27:51.580like we have uh like what are they called uh like battleships escorting the tankers through the
00:27:58.100strait so it's not exactly open um and i think one of them was just bombed today um i'm not sure
00:28:05.660It's all so fuzzy. But I like that he's saying he's not going to escalate it. I think intellectually he knows he needs to get out of there and get this thing over with. But I don't know if he can do that without like dropping some bombs and being like, OK, that did it. Those those took care of it. Now we can go.
00:28:24.540Yeah, I mean, I think it's still Schrodinger's war, as I've been describing it for a long time, where you don't really know what's happening and you don't know what's going to happen. I think Trump very smartly as commander in chief does not necessarily telegraph what he's about to do.
00:28:40.700So even saying something like that to the press might be a way of misdirecting his enemy and saying, no, I'm not going to escalate it. And then, you know, bombs are dropping on Kesham Island. And so I think that was one of the mistakes that Obama made was he would think, oh, I got to tell the press what I'm about to do in this war effort. And then he would just notify his enemies of his plans. And it's just stupid.
00:29:01.880it. So all war is deception and playing the press is part of it. So I don't necessarily put a lot1.00
00:29:09.000of stock into what he's saying when he's saying he's not going to escalate it. I think they have
00:29:13.140been escalating it economically. And I think they did pause probably for political reasons
00:29:18.780to say, you know, if we're still dropping bombs every day, then that gives the Democrats an
00:29:25.360easier message saying, oh, we're going to stop this from happening. But, you know, now that the
00:29:30.800midterms are over, I think there's less to lose in terms of saying, let's just go do what we need
00:29:35.560to do and finish this thing off. But at the same time, I don't know that for sure either. I don't
00:29:42.860know that he's about to launch some major offensive. And I think it could be that he's
00:29:46.860trying to say, we can come to some kind of agreement here and try and get that diplomatic
00:29:51.760effort moving. And if you're escalating at the same time, it's kind of hard to say, let's sign
00:29:56.940of deal. So I think there may be multiple things going on here at once where he's not telegraphing
00:30:03.740what he's going to do militarily, but he's also opening the door to some kind of negotiations.0.82
00:30:09.060And so I don't think he's just going to cave to all those silly demands that Iran was making,
00:30:15.660but he may at least be open to saying, let's have discussions and let's see what we can work out and0.70
00:30:20.200let's try and bring this to a close. And I agree with you that I'm sure he knows that it would be
00:30:24.480very bad if we're there two years from now. But that doesn't necessarily mean he's packing up
00:30:32.680and coming home next week. And I don't think it's accurate that it's not costing a lot of money to
00:30:37.020be there. I think it is. And if he can work out a deal where all these other countries are paying
00:30:42.580us back, great. But I don't know that there's been any actual signed agreement for that. And
00:30:46.960we'll have to see how that all works out. But if anyone could do that, it would be Trump.
00:30:53.780Yeah. Goldie, I see your comment. The disrespect of Trump and the USA has already started. Yep,
00:30:58.920I'm seeing that also. And of course, there's caravans beelining it right for the border
00:31:04.200already. Okay, so let's move on to what he said about the elections. We have like a bunch more
00:31:13.380to get through. Let's go. Well, number one, I was not on the ballot, but I campaigned hard for some
00:31:18.460people. And I think if I was on the ballot, it would have been a much different situation
00:31:24.100because you saw the level of popularity and love. There was love with massive rallies.
00:31:29.480You had to transfer those voters, however, to candidates that they didn't like. But there's
00:31:35.400something beyond that. They didn't like the war. They didn't like the fact that gasoline went up
00:31:40.900because I had it down at a low. And there's a great dislike, incredibly, for Israel.
00:31:47.000Let's go through those, then, one by one.
00:36:46.240And so all of those people individually, you could just quickly think about why they weren't
00:36:52.020voting this time for what they wanted. Of course, it's the economy, stupid. That's number one1.00
00:36:58.680with the war and everything. But he really had this golden opportunity with all of the different
00:37:08.460types of people that were like, you know what? Yeah, let's vote him in. If all these different
00:37:12.480things are going to happen like maybe i'm a single issue voter on vaccines or health or this or that
00:37:17.680they blew it like he blew it and so it seemed to to the majority of americans let's say 740.94
00:37:25.320that he was focused on other countries and you know we went to shit here so um but i just i just0.96
00:37:34.120think that the like the there is the other side of it which is there was a lot of energy and and0.94
00:37:38.760at least I think I knew going into this, there is this natural tendency that whoever's in power
00:37:46.260in the presidency will lose seats in Congress two years later. So there's that natural trend.
00:37:52.780And part of that is because there's this natural energy to say, I don't like what's going on in
00:37:58.180the White House. And so I'm going to try and claw back control in the Congress level. And so even if
00:38:06.600If Trump had done all the right things, he still may have lost seats, probably not as many, and probably not as badly. But I think I agree with what you're saying. But I also think a lot of it was just the natural trend of things, plus the way the Democrats were able to get their message across in terms of saying, you know, we can do a better job with affordability and all these other things.
00:38:29.480And I don't think they're going to deliver on those promises, but they were able to do that.0.66
00:38:33.200And then there is all this anti-Trump hatred that has been going on for two years again of just beating the Democrat base over the head about how terrible it is that we have this Hitler in the White House.0.51
00:38:43.100And so that whips people up into a frenzy trying to get, oh, we got to get everybody out to vote to stop this guy.
00:38:49.800And so I think there's a combination of factors here.
00:38:53.420But I agree, there were a certain, you know, probably too big percentage of people that
00:38:58.920either stayed home or voted Democrat because they just said, I don't, I'm going to do a
00:39:03.220protest vote on this because I don't like what I'm seeing here.0.77
00:39:05.520Well, I was just going to say, Smosh, I see you, or Smock.
00:39:08.520I don't know how I say your name in my head.0.97
00:40:20.720By the way, what are you going to write?
00:40:22.680The only thing I wish he would have said there, if he felt it, and you'd have to ask him about that.
00:40:28.480But if you had it to do again, would you do it?
00:40:30.700You know, he was part of a decision-making process.0.79
00:40:33.120And my answer is an emphatic yes, because you can't let Iran have a nuclear weapon.0.94
00:40:37.100I think historically this will be a very good decision.0.89
00:40:40.180Is it a good decision for today and tomorrow? Maybe not. But, you know, I have to go with what's right for our country. If they had a nuclear weapon during my term, I would be excoriated far worse than what's happened. So I've stopped them from having a nuclear weapon. That's a big thing.
00:40:58.480all right so i you know i think i think he like he's reading the tea leaves like he's got to let
00:41:06.240jd be jd um he could see the results about the war not being popular and he knew jd wasn't into
00:41:14.600it at all so he's got to let him be his own man and i think that jd was respectful about it and
00:41:22.020like you know like we said on the show last week he would never put out a giant statement like that
00:41:27.500without running it by the White House and President Trump.
00:47:48.060was it a leader of a major ai company one of the big ones yeah okay one of the big ones
00:47:56.380you know hearing it for like the fourth time i've listened to it it does sound like that
00:48:01.180uh and yeah it certainly could be i mean and i don't know who else it would be i mean if it's
00:48:05.660a leader of one of the major ai companies there's only you know a handful of those so
00:48:09.340So if it wasn't him, it would have had to be.
00:48:11.960Sam Altman, Elon, Jensen Huang, Darius Imode, maybe Mark Zuckerberg.
00:48:21.060But I don't think we've heard anything like this about any of the others.
00:48:25.260So it does seem like the obvious answer is that it had to do with this situation.
00:48:30.920I mean, that guy went from top dogs soaring on a golden cloud to allegedly maybe perhaps saying, yes, sir, I understand, sir, to President Trump now.
00:48:45.240Marianne Mars, I also would love to know why George Soros is not wearing orange.
00:51:21.100Look what they put me through, the weaponization.
00:51:23.340Mr. President, Mr. President, you have had the most charmed and remarkable life of any American in my entire lifetime, and you are telling me you couldn't find it in your heart to forgive some of your enemies?
00:51:48.360I probably cannot do that now because I do hate some of my enemies, and I always will.
00:51:53.340okay so i want to just say for the record i have so much respect for that answer because i feel
00:52:04.700exactly the same way and he's right like it w it wouldn't be authentic and it wouldn't be real what0.69
00:52:11.580like why does he need to have forgiveness for comey or for pelosi or for any of these a-holes0.98
00:52:18.380So I'm so glad. I mean, sometimes I wish Owen, he would take the easy answer just to make my life easier. But I so respect the hell out of him for saying that because he's 1000% right. And you know what? I'm not like a religious person. So my belief is that God knows why he's saying that. And God knows Trump's heart and why he wouldn't be able to forgive those people.1.00
00:52:46.180and god knows how to like you know he's like god's not like no i need you to say the word
00:52:51.680forgiveness i think god knows what's in trump's heart and um i don't know i i um i love that what
00:52:58.060did you think when have they ever asked a question like that to any democrat well maybe before they
00:53:02.320think another assassination attempt's coming i'm just saying like it it seems kind of disingenuous
00:53:09.080to me to even ask those questions of trump where it's like you know did they ever ask any you know
00:53:14.440Nancy Pelosi or Comey or any other people, you know, do you forgive Trump for what you think he
00:53:20.020did? And like, I don't ever hear the media saying anything like that to the other side. They don't
00:53:24.440ask about their religious beliefs. They don't ask any of that stuff. And I think, um, I guess the
00:53:30.320way I look at it is Trump is kind of like a warrior, you know, he's fighting for us. And
00:53:34.780I think that's why he was elected. And so I also don't think it's really fair to expect him to be
00:53:40.480this Jesus Christ character that's forgiving all of his enemies and willing to take the crown of0.59
00:53:46.220thorns and do all the things that you would imagine a perfect Christian would do. Everyone
00:53:52.040knows he's not a perfect Christian sort of Jesus Christ figure. And so I don't think it's fair to
00:53:58.320judge him on those terms when that really wasn't even what he was asked to be or what he was asked
00:54:03.440to do. And if he was that kind of person, he wouldn't have been nearly effective as a president
00:54:09.660he probably never would have got an elected president so um to ask someone in that position
00:54:14.060about that i think is just not not appropriate he should ask every single person he interviews
00:54:19.900that same question from now on and let's see what clever answer they come up with
00:54:24.380and the other thing is people like comey and pelosi would just lie you know they would take
00:54:28.940the easy answer and and that's the thing like at least he is being authentic like you were saying
00:54:35.420And he's being real. He's being honest. And he's saying, this is how I feel. I'm not just making it up. And I do think some of these people really are bad people and they've done really bad things. And I think they should be punished for that. And I don't think we should just like pretend it didn't happen or say, oh, that's OK, because it's not.
00:54:51.320Right. I also want to say, you know, when the time comes, you know, when it's President Trump's final days, hopefully in 100 years from now, you know, we shouldn't be privy to his private thoughts on that either.
00:55:09.560and maybe he will feel differently then. Maybe he'll soften them. Maybe he'll be like,
00:55:14.840I don't care anymore or whatever. But it is a stupid question to ask him, Owen, because1.00
00:55:21.560he's entitled to his own private feelings also. So who knows? I mean, look at the conversion Scott0.99
00:55:29.500made at the end, right? And everybody bugged him for so long. Please, please, please. And the fact
00:55:35.340is, is that you, none of you actually know when Scott did make that decision. Um, and I think
00:55:43.240maybe he made it public to everybody at the end. So you guys could all feel better, but he was
00:55:49.580definitely entitled to his own thoughts and feelings on religion and God. So I respected
00:55:55.840the hell out of Scott for that too. Um, I just want to get in one more clip, um, not to end so
00:56:02.560morbidly okay so on ufos we have to do it your administration alone among modern administrations
00:56:13.920has spent a lot of time releasing footage of ufos unidentified flying objects is there anything that
00:56:22.900you have seen or heard about or been told about that would lead you to think that there's something
00:56:28.440more there than just, we're having a good time looking at things in the sky.
00:56:32.520It's so amazing that you asked this question because it is one of the questions in private