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00:01:00 okay we're kicking in so here we are oh you guys happy scott adams book day yes this should be the

00:01:10 holiday it should be the book launch day let's go good morning andy good morning goldie

00:01:16 good morning bookish also known as gracie good morning rick it's like wait where's my romper

00:01:25 room mirror. Good morning, everyone. Okay, everybody, come on in. We'll wait for you to

00:01:30 file in. Oh, you know why I can't see you? I don't have my glasses on. Oh, you know.

00:01:37 I wonder she said it. You look so good today. Look at that. You guys, you saw Joel on TV last

00:01:44 night, today. He's everywhere. He's everywhere, this man. Come on in. I missed you too, Metal

00:01:49 seer everybody file on in did you see today's thumbnail it's very um scott scott scott i don't

00:01:57 have it to show you unfortunately i'm so sorry but it is on the cover photo all right it is a good day

00:02:06 drop an emoji in the chat if you already have your book if you already have your scott

00:02:11 adams biography drop an emoji in the chat if you have it let's see i do have mine i got it

00:02:18 over the past weekend i see i see it on your bookshelf back there owen look at that it's the

00:02:25 day okay look oh i see the emojis oh my gosh you guys all right i love it love it love it

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00:03:48 So welcome, everybody.

00:03:49 My name is Erica.

00:03:50 You are at the Scott Adams School, and I'm with my co-hosts, Marcella and Owen, as always.

00:03:56 And today, Joel Pollack, you are joining us in a different role today.

00:04:02 Today, Joel Pollack is joining us as the author of the official Scott Adams biography.

00:04:10 Look at him, A Life of Persuasion and Principle.

00:04:14 Joel, welcome on this special, amazing day for all of us.

00:04:18 How are you feeling?

00:04:20 Well, it's very exciting.

00:04:23 It's the day that we waited for for a very long time.

00:04:26 And I'm just thrilled to be able to bring the biography to life with the help of Joshua,

00:04:33 who you all know, and with your help and the help of Scott's family and help of so

00:04:39 many other people who are pushing and promoting the book. It's really amazing to be part of this.

00:04:43 I've never really felt this kind of a wave before. I, I surf pretty badly when I'm in California,

00:04:52 but there's a feeling sometimes when you get up on a wave and you don't have to be that good a

00:05:00 surfer. If the wave is strong enough and it's the right shape and everything, it's just going to

00:05:03 carry you along and that's how I feel. I love that. Yes. We're your wave, Joel. I was going

00:05:12 to say something else that would have come out so wrong, so I won't say it. All right. So I love

00:05:18 that and I agree. So I've seen you with Joshua Lysak doing an interview and you were on a Greg

00:05:27 Gutfeld show last night. That was great. How was that? Was that your first time on there?

00:05:31 Yeah, it was my first time. I used to be sort of a regular on Greg's late night show, Red Eye. I don't know how many people remember Red Eye. And I used to come up to New York about once a month to do Red Eye, which was always really fun.

00:05:46 Yeah. And this was my first time in studio. I was actually on Gutfeld once during the pandemic

00:05:52 when we had to do it remotely. So I was in a little van somewhere trying to make jokes.

00:05:58 And it was really fun. The studio audience is incredible. It's just really fun to be in front

00:06:02 of a live audience. Oh, that's funny. It was a great show last night too. And we'll get you the

00:06:06 clip of that later for anyone that missed it. I just didn't have it on time for today. And where

00:06:11 else have you been promoting? Every time I turn around, you're like, I'm going live in two minutes.

00:06:16 well what's interesting is some of the podcasts that i've been on are still going to come out so

00:06:23 some of them are live some of them are going to roll out over several days michael malice i think

00:06:29 is releasing a podcast next week about it and omar khatib who is one of scott's friends

00:06:36 does a podcast called medtech podcast it's one of the top podcasts in fact i think it's the top

00:06:41 podcast in medical technology. That's coming out, I think next week. And then I think I'm

00:06:47 going to be on Steve Bannon's show at some point. And I was on Larry O'Connor's show this morning

00:06:51 on WMAL. There's a huge amount of interest in this. It's not because I'm so good at publicity.

00:06:57 It's because people want to talk about Scott. People were so inspired by Scott. I had an

00:07:03 experience last night on the Gutfeld show, for example, when they went to commercial break and

00:07:08 we are sitting there in the chairs, Jesse, the comedian who sat next to me, just leaned over and

00:07:14 said, reframe your brain changed my life. And I've had that reaction from so many people,

00:07:20 including Democrats, a lot of people who say, well, I didn't agree with Scott politically, but

00:07:23 I read reframe your brain, and I couldn't get it out of my head. And it's actually made my life so

00:07:29 much better, which really tells you something. When he came out with reframe your brain, he had

00:07:33 already been canceled. You weren't supposed to read Scott, look at Dilbert, you weren't supposed

00:07:38 hear from him ever again reframe your brain came out it continues to change people's lives so one

00:07:44 of the things i talk about in the book are all the events around that cancellation but also what

00:07:49 reframe your brain is about and how he gets there from his initial writing on self-help and on

00:07:55 perception and persuasion i like in the book too and i'll come to you owen and marcel in one sec

00:08:00 but i do like in the book where you'll reference things uh you'll reframe things in uh telling a

00:08:08 story about scott you know the old frame is you know scott got canceled the reframe is and then

00:08:13 you'll you know go into what that really meant and i like that that was fun oh and did you want

00:08:18 to jump in here no i'm really looking forward to reading it um you know i i did want to ask

00:08:24 do you have your interview with rachel maddow set up yet uh not yet although i'm open to it

00:08:33 you know um uh who's the other guy uh the other guy that is the best clip clip it sorry

00:08:42 i'm about to get canceled um take tapper no uh chris something or other on uh matthews

00:08:53 no no no the one who looks like rachel maddow they're sort of body doubles

00:08:56 you know people used to say for something no chris maybe there's more than one when it was

00:09:02 when msnbc was more of a thing yeah he was more famous now i can't remember they look like each

00:09:06 other it was almost like michael jackson and janet jackson or yeah like you would never see

00:09:10 him in the same place chris hayes that's right oh my god that's amazing um but i i did want to

00:09:19 ask what shows you were on because it does show a variety of people you guys so like from steve

00:09:25 Bannon, to Michael Malice, to Gutfeld, to, you know, serious people who were truly affected by

00:09:32 Scott. And, you know, I can't remember what how far in the book he went about Steve Bannon, but

00:09:38 he relied on Scott's persuasion and ideas. Yeah. So Steve was my boss at Breitbart for many years.

00:09:47 So I've known Steve for a long time. And he told me, as you'll read in the book, that Scott had a

00:09:55 direct impact on diplomacy with North Korea, that it was Scott's idea that the North Korean

00:10:01 conflict wasn't a military conflict, it was a psychological conflict. And he came up with all

00:10:06 kinds of ways to solve it on his live stream right here on the Coffee with Scott Adams YouTube

00:10:12 channel, and also at his blog, which he had at Dilbert.com at the time. And you can go back,

00:10:17 some of them are in the archives, but you can just read the excerpts that are in the book.

00:10:21 and Steve confirmed that Scott's ideas had a huge impact. They were brought to Trump in the White

00:10:27 House and Trump said, that's what I want to do. That's where we're going with this.

00:10:32 Yes. So, okay, Marcella, jump in here. I know you have questions for sure. 0.98

00:10:37 You caught me off guard. No, I just, you know, I keep thinking about what Scott,

00:10:44 But how Scott would be so proud, Joel, and seeing you on Gutfeld and seeing Gutfeld on

00:10:50 you.

00:10:51 I mean, I teared up because Scott would love any time he was mentioned by anyone, especially

00:11:00 Gutfeld.

00:11:01 And seeing both of you last night, it was something that he would have been so happy

00:11:10 about and seeing his biography come out seeing that persuasion and everything like all the

00:11:16 influence he had on people i so i thank you so much for for doing this so i've had a lot of

00:11:26 experiences in doing interviews for this book where the interviewer starts crying in the middle

00:11:31 of the interview and i won't spoil the surprise by telling you when it happened you'll just have

00:11:36 to catch some of the podcasts and interviews, but Gutfeld cares so much about Scott. And

00:11:44 it's overwhelming when you are able to have that kind of one-on-one airtime about a book you've

00:11:52 written. I mean, that never happens, but that's not because of me. That's because of Scott. That's

00:11:56 how deeply Greg Gutfeld cared and still cares about Scott. And Scott Adams had that effect on

00:12:03 so many people. And in different ways, people will tell you that there were different things

00:12:08 that made them love Scott. They'll refer to different books. I mentioned Reframe Your Brain,

00:12:14 but Larry O'Connor on WMAL, he told me that Win Bigly had been absolutely huge for him.

00:12:25 And also How to Fail, How to Fail at Everything and Still Win Big. I mean,

00:12:30 he referenced those books and so everybody has a different connection um but for me just

00:12:36 emotionally i mean you guys have been there every step of the way i've talked to you guys as i've

00:12:40 been writing the book i showed you the early longhand drafts and i showed you the first printed

00:12:47 typed out draft and we talked about looking for joan mahoney who was scott's college girlfriend

00:12:53 and every step of the way you guys were there and i feel this is where i get emotional i feel

00:13:00 like I did what I promised my friend I would do. He had this request and I fulfilled what he asked

00:13:11 me to do. And I hope he would have liked the biography. People who've read it say they love

00:13:16 it. I think there's new information here. There's a lot of new information that will help you engage

00:13:22 with Scott in a new way. But I also think it will keep alive the Scott that we all knew and loved

00:13:28 for so long, you'll feel his presence in the book, even as you're also learning new things about him

00:13:34 to add to that. So it's all been very, very quick. And just a brief note about how I did it. I mean,

00:13:43 I didn't use AI to write the book. I just spent an hour a day, sometimes two hours a day, but

00:13:47 usually one hour in the morning and half an hour to an hour in the evening working on it. And you

00:13:52 can pretty much do anything if you have the ability to set aside that kind of time. And I

00:13:58 had incredible help from Josh. I mean, his layout is incredible. And he's also got this

00:14:03 encyclopedic knowledge of all things Scott Adams. So that was very useful. But just to get to this

00:14:10 point, Scott said, we have systems, not goals, right? So you still have a deadline in mind. You

00:14:15 have a goal. But what you look back at, what gives you a sense of awe when you're done with something

00:14:23 is that the system was there. The system is massive. You look back over every day and the

00:14:28 hours you spent, that's, that's what feels big. And I just feel like I, I'm just happy to have

00:14:38 done it for him. He asked me to do it and I did it. Yeah. I mean, what could be more important

00:14:42 than fulfilling a dying person's wish, right? I mean, and that's a huge ask and it's a, it's a,

00:14:50 I mean, not to say that it was a burden for you, but it is like this huge weight where you're like,

00:14:56 I hope I can measure up. And to have such a huge ask from such a huge, impactful person in this

00:15:05 world had to have just been like, oh, I hope I do it justice. We sit here on his show. Thank God,

00:15:13 he said, don't even try to be me. Thank God, because we could never. So we sit here as just

00:15:19 a community and we, you know, we do what we do here, um, with our affection for Scott.

00:15:25 But I mean, if I had to tell his story, well, I mean, everybody has different angles, but

00:15:31 you know what, Joel, you, you really went around and talked to people that none of us

00:15:34 ever knew and you traveled to them and you got, I mean, I was, I definitely cracked up

00:15:41 through the college years, hysterical.

00:15:43 I love the college years so much.

00:15:46 I can't even take it.

00:15:46 And I don't want to spoil anything for anybody. So I think like what Marcel is saying and Owen

00:15:53 agrees, I mean, you went out there and did the thing that he asked you to do and you had to

00:15:58 take yourself out of it and go forward and investigate. And I guess that's your journalism

00:16:06 slash friend and caring skill that you have. Yeah. And I'm always bad at the marketing part

00:16:13 of doing a book, I have become pretty good at writing and planning and showing up every day

00:16:20 at the page and keeping the writing process going. But it's been so good to work with Josh because

00:16:25 he is so good at understanding marketing. It was his idea to say, wait until after the midterm

00:16:30 elections to come out with this book, because everybody rushes a book before the midterm

00:16:35 elections. They think people are interested in political topics. And so they're going to buy

00:16:39 more books. He said, that doesn't happen. You want to wait. And also, you know, I think Josh

00:16:45 predicted that Republicans were going to lose and people would want to talk about something else.

00:16:51 So this is an antidote. This is going to reframe the election for you. And I've talked about this

00:16:58 before, but ever since 2020, I started looking at elections a different way. We all did in

00:17:04 different ways. But I started looking at democracy as less a system of counting votes, because who

00:17:11 knows how many votes actually end up in the ballot box, right? We don't really know. But it's really

00:17:15 a system of taking turns. And if you reframe it as a way of taking turns, like we all get a turn,

00:17:20 we all have to tolerate someone else's turn. We want to do things when it's our turn that are

00:17:25 fair so that when it's not our turn, we're not abused. Democrats aren't very good at that part

00:17:29 right now, going after everybody. But I think Josh's genius at marketing is very helpful. He's

00:17:38 had four New York Times bestsellers. I hope this one is the fifth. And I'm going to ask everybody

00:17:42 who's watching to buy the book, buy two or three of them, give them as gifts. Let's push this to

00:17:48 number one if we can. I think it would be an amazing tribute to Scott if we could have this

00:17:53 on the bestseller list and not just for my own commercial interest, which I'm happy to disclose,

00:17:58 but also because I think he would want to know that people are interested in his life and not

00:18:06 just the events of his life, but also his ideas, which are in the book as well.

00:18:10 A hundred percent. Owen, did you want to jump in?

00:18:14 Yeah. I mean, I think I haven't read the book yet and I'm looking forward to doing that. I

00:18:21 might probably do that in some of the subscriber spaces or recover books, but looking through the

00:18:26 the table of contents i i found it interesting just what like the chapters are focusing on and

00:18:32 not focusing on like i i noticed there's no chapter about dilbert um even though that was

00:18:38 probably like the majority of his career and i i do notice flipping through the book there's

00:18:41 definitely lots of references to that there's some of the comics in there but um yeah well

00:18:46 the chapter is not called dilbert so so there is a chapter about dilbert it's it's it's called

00:18:50 california okay because i put that in that portion of his life and i go through the characters so one

00:18:58 of the interesting things was to sit and think about the dilbert characters and why they worked

00:19:03 one of the paradoxes of dilbert is that even though dilbert makes fun of management management

00:19:09 people loved dilbert and that's partly because we are americans we have a sense of humor about

00:19:15 ourselves, but also because the message of Dilbert wasn't that the boss is terrible and that managers

00:19:23 are awful people, even though the boss does terrible things in Dilbert. The message of Dilbert

00:19:28 was even management is in the same boat. Even management is terrified. Even management is

00:19:35 surrounded by idiots that it has to take orders from. I mean, who is the pointy haired boss 1.00

00:19:41 most afraid of. He's terrified of not only the CEO of the company, but also the pointy haired

00:19:47 boss is terrified of Alice, terrified of the female coworker who he knows is hyper competent 0.97

00:19:54 and can punch a hole through his head. And so he just does his best not to antagonize her,

00:19:59 even though he doesn't antagonize her anyway. So what Scott was doing there was saying, hey,

00:20:04 everybody's in the same boat. Capitalism still works. It's better than the alternative. I mean,

00:20:09 there's no alternative to institutional dysfunction. It's worse in government. It's

00:20:12 worse in communist societies. It's worse in Elbonia, where they use tin cans and string 1.00

00:20:17 for telephones. But it's part of life. And the Dilbert principle is that people are promoted

00:20:25 because of their incompetence and not despite their incompetence. So yes, I mean, I didn't make

00:20:31 a separate Dilbert chapter because I didn't want people to see that as separate from the rest of

00:20:37 his life but also it is only in one chapter because it's one part of his life and it's not

00:20:44 how he wanted to be remembered remember when he talked about Dilbert he said Dilbert was one of

00:20:51 many different get rich ideas that I had he was playing with all kinds of other ideas one thing

00:20:56 you'll see in the book for example is one of the early drawings of Dilbert the character was a logo

00:21:02 that he created for a computer company that he started called Kludgeware.

00:21:07 You've probably never heard of Kludgeware before,

00:21:09 but Scott taught himself how to program in the basic language.

00:21:14 I don't know if anybody here remembers the mid-80s,

00:21:16 but basic was one of the computer languages people were learning.

00:21:19 And he taught himself how to program and he released a video game in the basic language.

00:21:25 But if you wanted, you could buy the open source version where he just sold you the code

00:21:29 and you could customize the video game however you wanted to.

00:21:32 And he thought this would be a great idea. And there was some interest in it for a year or so, and then it kind of petered out. But his logo for Kludgeware was this drawing of Dilbert. You look at the logo, you'll say, oh my goodness, that's Dilbert with the curly tie and everything. That's Dilbert.

00:21:47 But it was just one of several ways he was trying to find his way in the world.

00:21:53 And what he really wanted to be remembered for were the things that he brought to you, to the audience, for Coffee with Scott Adams.

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00:23:21 Peeling a little veil away so you could see how things really work.

00:23:26 And he saw Trump and said, oh, my goodness, this is what I've been waiting for.

00:23:29 I can finally explain what I understand about the world to people by showing them how Trump does it.

00:23:35 Trump is doing what I have always known is possible, but I couldn't explain to people until they'd seen it.

00:23:41 So that's why he started writing about Trump.

00:23:43 that's what he wanted to be remembered for. And then, of course, in that famous live stream that

00:23:48 Akira turned into a song, what did he value most about his life? Not Dilbert. He valued his time

00:23:55 with his stepchildren, watching Savannah play soccer, going to Disneyland or on the Disney

00:24:02 cruise with Savannah and Justin and Shelley. Those moments with family were the things he valued most.

00:24:07 So I have a whole chapter called Love about his relationships, but I don't have a separate chapter

00:24:12 a title called Dilbert. Obviously Dilbert's in the book. We've got some Dilbert comics in the book

00:24:15 too. But yeah. So speaking of Dilbert, you know what's really funny? I'm listening to our

00:24:23 conversation. And recently my mom came to know Scott through my friendship with him and my

00:24:33 relationship with the show and everything. So she doesn't really know Dilbert. So I was trying to

00:24:38 explain it to her. And I'm like, well, the pointy hair boss. And I'm like, oh, he's actually called

00:24:43 the pointy hair boss. And it's just so funny when you start talking about it and you just said

00:24:47 pointy hair boss. But I have just like a little bit of Scott. It's like just a one minute clip

00:24:52 of him showing us how he blocks out a Dilbert comic. And I was watching this little clip and

00:24:58 I was reading what the comic says. And I actually just started laughing because when you know Scott

00:25:02 and you read his comics, it's so hysterical because you can hear his brain and his thought

00:25:08 process. So just take a quick look. Hey, this is a quick video for local subscribers to tell

00:25:16 you a little bit about the creative process. Here's a Dilber comic that I'm working on

00:25:21 for July 26th, 2020. Today is May 17th, 2020. If you're trying to figure out the deadline

00:25:30 lag. Here, I'm just blocking out the characters. So, this is more like directing. It's like

00:25:38 directions in a script, if this were a movie. Who's in the scene? What do they look like?

00:25:43 Where are they standing? Who's talking? Now, I wrote the dialogue before that, so I had a sense

00:25:49 of who's in it, but then I'm blocking it out. This just tells me that that'll be a building.

00:25:55 that shows me that it'll be a close-up.

00:25:58 So a lot of these will change as I get to drawing them.

00:26:02 But this is just my first take on what that looks like.

00:26:07 And there's the punchline.

00:26:10 So that's what it starts out.

00:26:11 There'll be several layers before this is finished.

00:26:15 The last layer will be the color.

00:26:18 So I just think that's a funny comic strip to me.

00:26:22 And it's so, Scott, and what I loved,

00:26:25 and we all loved. I mean, how much Scott gave us all of his intel. He's like, here's how I do the

00:26:32 thing. Here's how I block it out. This is the drawing pad I use to draw. And just like we

00:26:40 played a clip of Elon yesterday, giving us the process of how he runs and manages a company.

00:26:47 There's something about these genius level mentors who open up everything to you in transparency

00:26:53 because they're not afraid of anyone else becoming successful and amazing as well.

00:26:59 And if they could have any part in doing that, like Scott saying, be useful, that's like all

00:27:04 he wanted to do is be useful. And that's why we said he was like our, our internet dad,

00:27:08 because he was just like, maybe you don't know this. Maybe no one's ever, never going to tell

00:27:12 you these things. So I love that Joel. I loved how he would just sit down with us and draw an

00:27:17 entire cartoon and he would take our opinions and our jokes. And a lot of times they made it right

00:27:22 in there, the things that we were saying? Well, you will learn some things in this book

00:27:27 about how Scott drew Dilbert that he didn't actually reveal. So one of the things that he

00:27:34 often did was he would reach into his box of index cards where he wrote down ideas for jokes.

00:27:43 He wrote things down as ideas would occur to him. Sometimes he would get emails from people.

00:27:47 Sometimes he would call people just cold and ask them what was going on in their lives.

00:27:51 people would say the guy who draws Dilbert just called me and he asked me for ideas and if you

00:27:56 had written to him he would sometimes just cold call you for ideas and he would write the ideas

00:28:00 down and then he would develop them into a three panel comic strip or a sunday longer strip so we

00:28:06 talk about that in the book and you can see the evolution of the comic ideas into the actual strip

00:28:13 the other thing is he was experimenting with some of the Dilbert characters very early on and the

00:28:20 two that he started with were obviously Dilbert who I've mentioned and the other one was Dogbert

00:28:24 and he wrote in his journal which we found by the way he wrote in his journal that once he had that

00:28:33 first check from the syndication company that was going to pick up the comic strip

00:28:39 he said I can't wait to see Dogbert stuffed toys in stores he already in his mind was already seeing

00:28:47 Dogbert as one of the key drivers of the whole series. But do you know what Dogbert's original

00:28:54 name was? What? It was Dildog. Oh, yes. Now, think about that word Dildog and then ask yourself

00:29:05 whether Dildog would have survived into a mainstream newspaper. No, no, not a good name.

00:29:12 No. That's right. I forgot about Dill Dog. I think you did tell us that once on here.

00:29:18 That's hysterical. Thank God it turned into Dog Burt and Cat Burt. Thank goodness. And then we

00:29:24 got Mike Burt. That's amazing. So I pulled another clip because we know the geniuses, Scott. And I

00:29:32 mean, he always taught us about having systems, right? Marcella, create a system and that's how

00:29:37 you can reach your goals um here's a little system i'm i own i'm only pulling some of these

00:29:42 little fun micro lessons from locals for today you know um sometimes i will pull the bigger ones

00:29:48 if if we really like need to learn a good lesson but this is for fun today uh like the one i just

00:29:54 showed but here's one did you guys know i mean scott covered it all he covered everything check

00:29:59 this one out now many of you know i like to develop systems to make my life easier especially

00:30:06 around the house. And one of the systems I've developed is for laundry folding and putting back

00:30:12 on the hanger. And what I've done is I've taken a box where I keep some wooden hangers so that my

00:30:19 process is as easy as taking a garment, reaching over, not even looking, pulling out a wooden

00:30:27 hanger, no wire ones because they get all tangled up. And then it's as simple as just

00:30:33 stick it in the shirt

00:30:36 and

00:30:38 there you go.

00:30:40 Look at that. It's a great system.

00:30:42 Now, there's a wrinkle in my system

00:30:44 which is I don't live alone.

00:30:47 So, Christina's

00:30:48 system is overlapping with mine a little

00:30:50 bit. Her system involves 0.93

00:30:52 the same box that I

00:30:54 use for the hangers

00:30:56 except her system involves 0.94

00:30:58 putting all of the hangers 0.97

00:31:00 in it, no matter

00:31:02 how many hangers there are. So now my system has become pick a garment and then reach over

00:31:10 and pull out a hanger. It's a little bit harder, but I think it didn't take much more time.

00:31:21 So still pretty good system. So if you live with somebody, you may have to modify your systems

00:31:26 a little bit, but

00:31:28 I think you can do it, and that's your

00:31:30 micro lesson on systems.

00:31:34 I mean,

00:31:35 he spared no, nothing.

00:31:37 Marcella, I mean...

00:31:38 He loved neatness.

00:31:43 Very disciplined man

00:31:44 and had a system for everything.

00:31:47 I mean, everything.

00:31:49 Oh, yeah.

00:31:49 It just gives you that comic

00:31:52 feeling. And what I love about

00:31:55 it is that he opened the

00:31:56 his home to his audience he he was you know in the closet i'm doing like remember we just had

00:32:04 a whiteboard in the closet because oh there's construction or a leaf blower we knew about the

00:32:09 leaf blower was his enemy um so many different things that um he feels like that's why everybody

00:32:17 misses him so much because he wasn't just someone um a writer uh a humorist a cartoonist he was

00:32:26 your family member he was your friend oh yeah and that's just like everybody saying that like

00:32:33 like i i quoted greg gottfell yesterday saying i think of him every day everybody's like i think

00:32:40 of him every day too all day you know so um oddly there's so many clips of scott so you guys this is

00:32:49 why we say come over to locals okay become a subscriber it's scottadams.locals.com that's

00:32:54 where all this stuff lives. All those videos live on his subscriber thing. That's where they're

00:32:59 going to stay. They're never going to be made public. But I mean, there are so many videos

00:33:04 of Scott teaching us how to fold laundry. I have to say there's a whole towel segment,

00:33:09 like how to fold a towel. I was like, he did have a fascination with laundry. And one of the first

00:33:13 times I found Scott, he was in his closet folding laundry, talking on Periscope. And I'm like,

00:33:18 what's this guy? I had no idea who he was. I just stumbled upon him. I'm like, who is this guy?

00:33:23 totally random that I ever found him didn't even know who he was but I was like all right I'll

00:33:30 watch him fold laundry it was interesting so I mean the things he taught us were from the most 0.56

00:33:37 genius ideas to like simple life hacks to how much he hated stupid design packaging and like 0.52

00:33:46 how things were like so complicated and difficult I mean you guys how many times did he buy some 0.92

00:33:51 new piece of technology. And like the next day he's like, I'm throwing it out. I'm getting rid

00:33:56 of it. It's garbage. It's useless. I'm just throwing it out. And we're all like, send it 0.99

00:34:01 to one of us. Like if you're throwing it out and then we're like, return it. He's like, I don't

00:34:05 even want to return it. And oh my God, he has thrown out more electronics, computer things,

00:34:10 devices, printers than we can ever imagine. And that was the fun of being with Scott, like,

00:34:17 especially as a subscriber and he called us the beloveds, but he loved every single person that

00:34:22 found him useful. Believe me. Um, but he just shared it all with us. Right. Marcella.

00:34:27 Remember the black button on black devices? Like he would look at like certain things that you would

00:34:33 get. And you know, nowadays it's all very sophisticated, very Ikea like, but he would be

00:34:38 like, where is the button to turn this thing on? He's like, I I'm laying in bed. He would be laying

00:34:44 in bed, Joel. And he'd be like, I'm laying in bed and I have this thing. He's on the camera showing

00:34:49 us and I need to turn or I need to do this thing, but everything's black on here. Look, everything's

00:34:55 black. I have no way to know which button's the button. And I remember that day somebody said,

00:35:00 put a little piece of Velcro on the button that you need. And he's like, oh, that's a great idea.

00:35:05 So somebody said, stick Velcro on it. And of course he probably had what, 30,000 different

00:35:11 sizes of velcro in his garage so that was an easy fix for him with his flashlights but owen i mean

00:35:17 right it was like the man caves and the pre-show and the post-show and that's where we all bonded

00:35:24 so hard joel like i mean owen you tell them like how how crazy and fun that was well i mean it was

00:35:30 really like you know you were meeting with a friend every day and spending all kinds of time

00:35:34 with him and he was just so transparent about his whole life you know all the ups and downs and

00:35:41 frustrations and funny things and you know he would laugh so easily and get so entertained by

00:35:47 just a comment in the chat and it was just really fun to be a part of his life and it was obviously

00:35:55 kind of like different than a normal relationship where you're meeting with the person you know

00:36:00 face to face all the time but you really kind of felt like that was almost what you were doing like

00:36:04 he were just sitting in his man cave talking to him and um you know we knew i when i went to his

00:36:10 house the first time i met with him it was like he offered me a tour and i did take the tour but

00:36:16 it was like i've already seen this whole house like you don't even have to tell me what we're

00:36:20 looking at because i know i've seen it all well you know what you know what the most interesting

00:36:24 thing about his house was aside from the dilbert shaped turret in the back which is on the back

00:36:30 cover of the book. I'll tell you the story of this photograph in a second. But the most

00:36:36 interesting thing was he had a room for a pool table. And he actually moved the pool table out

00:36:42 of the room. And what I talk about in the book, actually, his family had a pool table. His dad

00:36:48 built a pool table. His dad was the original talent stacker. His dad could do everything.

00:36:53 So his dad built a pool table, but it had a funny role to it because it was made out of plywood and

00:36:57 not out of whatever slate they they're supposed to use anyway scott had a pool table and then he

00:37:02 turned it into a mini golf course inside his house but around the edge of the room there was like this

00:37:08 shelf maybe about you know at most kind of almost like the the width of a cell phone and just kind

00:37:16 of went around the side of the room he says you know why i built that why because everybody puts

00:37:21 their beer on the pool table and it's so annoying i built that so they put the beer on the side

00:37:26 not on the table yes that's what that's for for sure and you know i the three of us um for anyone

00:37:34 listening uh marcella and owen and i we actually had the opportunity to put on scott's putting green

00:37:41 like he did every morning with roman and gary and it was you know surreal standing there and just

00:37:47 missing him and you know you looked over and you knew where he'd prop up his phone and lean it

00:37:52 there and you know it's just it was so intimate with him every single day for 10 years you know

00:37:59 imagine 10 years we're with we're with him and yeah we knew like every part of the house and

00:38:06 you're just like yep that's i know where that thing is and no there's that you know whatever

00:38:10 thing and um you know so he just he led us into his life so hard and i think that i just want to

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00:39:34 it has been and was, especially in the beginning, to jump on here and be on his channels while

00:39:41 grieving this person that we spent 10 years with every single day. And we had a personal

00:39:48 relationship with him, the three of us. And, you know, so I just want to, I want to give us a

00:39:53 shout out because, you know, we get poo-pooed a lot because we're not Scott and we know that,

00:39:58 but Scott wanted his channel to continue. And I happen to know that a lot of people thought,

00:40:04 oh, they'll be on for like two weeks and it'll be over. And our numbers have gone up and people

00:40:10 have said that we become important to them too, because we're living through Scott here on his

00:40:16 channels. And so I just want to acknowledge us and everybody that comes here and watches us and

00:40:22 the guests that join us. I know it like still might feel like a little bit of like a imposter

00:40:28 syndrome to some people, but we, I can tell you loved Scott as much as anybody could love Scott

00:40:35 and got through this with all of you while grieving and everything else. And I'm just

00:40:40 really proud of us for sticking together because at the end of the day, what Scott wanted was a

00:40:45 place for all of us to still come to because he cared so, so much about this community of people.

00:40:51 He wanted us to still stay together and be here. And now we're here with Joel talking about his

00:40:58 biography and we can be happy and just enjoy it all. But Owen, I just want to, you know,

00:41:05 toss to you and then to Marcella, I just want to say thank you because I know how

00:41:09 freaking hard this has been. So Owen. Well, I appreciate it. And I, and I would say the same

00:41:15 back to you. Um, I think it's been great how the community handle all that. I mean, it was clearly

00:41:20 very hard on a lot of us to watch his health deteriorating. And, and of course when he died,

00:41:25 And I think, you know, the community really did come together and helped each other through that.

00:41:32 And certainly Scott helped us with a lot of his advice about, you know, for example, treating it more like you're honored to be part of the process as opposed to just focusing on the loss.

00:41:43 And I think that this book is part of that, where it's like, you know, we're honoring Scott's life. We're learning more about all the things he did and all the things he taught us and the difference he made in the world, which is just kind of hard to calculate.

00:41:57 So I just, you know, I'm glad that I have this book and I am really looking forward to reading it. And I'm kind of waiting a little bit just because I want to do it maybe as part of the subscriber spaces and go through it with everyone.

00:42:08 But I'm really glad you did this, Joel.

00:42:11 And, you know, I'm really looking forward to reading it.

00:42:14 Marcella, I just want you to jump in after what we were saying about our grieving process also.

00:42:20 So I don't want to get too intimate with you guys.

00:42:24 um but um before he died i i i spoke to him and and i said um scott i i don't want to find out

00:42:33 about your death um over the news or you know like some other source but but you you know and he's

00:42:44 like he he he smiled at me and he winked and he said no i got it you'll find out a certain way and

00:42:51 And I said, I don't know how I'm going to grieve, you know, like, if you're not there, how are we going to do this?

00:42:56 What are we going to do when you're not here?

00:42:59 Like, we're so used to you being here.

00:43:01 He said, no, I know what, how it's going to happen.

00:43:05 You don't worry.

00:43:06 So I feel like the Shelly, Shelly coming on and reading that, that letter to us and she's the one that informed us.

00:43:16 So he had planned it to the T, like his life was very disciplined and he had all these systems, systems went over goals, like his entire life.

00:43:27 And he knew that we would be doing this show.

00:43:31 And I had no idea what at that time, what we were going to do.

00:43:36 And he knew that it would help all of us at home, everywhere where you guys were watching.

00:43:43 and us Erica Owen even Joel you know like it would help this show helped us through the grieving

00:43:51 process and all of it was all engineered by Scott Adams and I'm just like whoa you know which I

00:43:59 think going back to the book I think that's what kind of Joel is showing us I haven't read a Joel

00:44:06 but I imagine from what you talk about is how he influenced historical events that we,

00:44:16 political events that we're not aware of. He was just our friend on camera. He was showing

00:44:21 us out of full clothes, but at the same time he was doing all of these very influential movements

00:44:27 and things. Well, he was incredibly influential and I interviewed Jared Kushner and Ivanka

00:44:35 Kushner Ivanka Trump for the book and Ivanka could not wait to talk to me about Scott Adams

00:44:43 she was a complete super fan I promise you she was watching the live streams that's how big

00:44:49 of a fan she was she was watching coffee with Scott Adams in the White House

00:44:54 and Jared loved him and talked about all the ways that people took ideas from Scott but Ivanka was

00:45:03 just overflowing with emotion, really, as she talked to me about how much she missed Scott Adams.

00:45:10 I don't know if everybody watching this realizes how much you have in common with people in very

00:45:17 high places because you watched Coffee with Scott Adams and you're part of this show now.

00:45:24 He really just had a massive, massive impact, and he continues to. I'm going to tell you the story

00:45:30 about the picture on the back, because I think it's going to get you to some answers about the

00:45:35 grief that you're feeling still. So this is the picture on the back. And this obviously is his

00:45:41 house. Some people call it the house bird. It's a house bird. And he and Shelley built this house

00:45:48 in Pleasanton, California, and he had to go to the town council for special permission because

00:45:52 of the way it was designed. But you can see it's a tribute to Dilbert. And over the house, you see

00:45:58 a rainbow. Now, the story of that rainbow is that I was at his house and he was bedridden at that

00:46:04 stage. He couldn't walk anymore. And I was interviewing him. And that day, his sister was

00:46:09 coming to visit to say goodbye and spend a few days, but really see her brother for the last

00:46:14 time. And for some reason, they flew from Albany and landed in Sacramento. So they were driving

00:46:19 west from Sacramento and they drove through a winter storm. California gets these atmospheric

00:46:25 rivers in the winter, especially in Northern California. But I knew, having been in California

00:46:31 for about 15 years at that point, that when you get a late afternoon storm, you often get a rainbow

00:46:37 afterwards. So I told Scott, hang on a second, I'm going outside, I want to see if there's a rainbow.

00:46:43 And sure enough, over the house, there was the most magnificent rainbow. And rainbows, again,

00:46:50 getting back to religion, I say again, because Larry O'Connor asked me about Scott and religion

00:46:54 earlier this morning. I realized we haven't talked about it yet so far on this show, but

00:46:58 in the Bible, the rainbow is a promise, right? The rainbow appears after the flood and Noah

00:47:05 comes out of the ark with his family and all the animals. And it's a sign in the heaven that

00:47:11 God realizes he's never going to destroy the world again. And that's the sign that you see.

00:47:17 And it's supposed to be a sign of comfort. Obviously a rainbow means many other things.

00:47:21 people have appropriated the rainbow for different purposes and the original meaning of the rainbow

00:47:27 is a promise that grief ends destruction ends and life continues at some point at some point

00:47:35 you're in that arc you're grieving and you have to be you actually have to be to get through the

00:47:40 flood and then at some point you come out and there's a moment where you don't grieve anymore

00:47:48 and it's not because you don't miss the person, and it's not because you don't love the person.

00:47:53 And I've had to deal with this recently with another relationship in my life, and one of the

00:47:57 things you do sometimes when a relationship ends, friendship, somebody dies, somebody moves away,

00:48:05 is you remind yourself every day how much you love that person, and you're afraid of

00:48:11 what happens after you accept that they're gone. And I think this book is a rainbow

00:48:18 to Scott's friends and fans, it's a reminder that the grief is gone. You can still love him without

00:48:27 feeling sad. You can obviously feel sad for as long as you want to, and that's okay. And we are

00:48:32 all sad that he's not with us because he died young. But also over time, the sadness does fade,

00:48:39 the storm passes, and what you're left with is the promise. You have this happiness that you can

00:48:45 always access. I'm going to tear up a little bit as I read this, but I'm already dying.

00:48:55 I'm crying for the first time.

00:49:04 I really should leave this for the book. Like you should, you should discover this on your own. But

00:49:08 for those of you who are not tuning in or for friends who aren't watching, this is the last

00:49:14 page of the book. So, uh, there's this, there's a chapter called farewell and it's just one

00:49:19 paragraph and it's something Scott said in November last year, almost a year ago, just

00:49:25 over a year ago. And he writes, and I also know that even though I haven't met most of you in

00:49:32 person, that it actually means something to you. When I tell you that you're my beloved

00:49:36 and how much I enjoy spending time with you, it's all true. It's all true. Or I wouldn't say it.

00:49:43 And I know that that gives you a little boost. So that's how you can start your day.

00:49:48 And you certainly give me a boost. My God, you give me a boost.

00:49:53 I could not be more appreciative. And it's all very meaningful to me in ways that you can't even

00:49:59 imagine. And when I tell you guys, he meant that with every fiber of his being, he meant every

00:50:09 word of that i promise you i mean thanks for sharing that with us joel so that that was it

00:50:17 wasn't the last thing he said right those weren't his last words by the way you know we we're always

00:50:25 curious about what someone's last words were um there's something special that i won't read aloud

00:50:30 that you have to read the book to uh to understand but there were final words that scott recorded

00:50:38 and he had his family take a video of the last things he said yeah and that's in the book and

00:50:47 the reason the reason he did it was because he loved you he wanted you to be with him until the

00:50:57 end and he wanted this to be known he wanted his words to be known even though all he was really

00:51:04 describing was what he was going through he it wasn't like he was sharing a new idea or

00:51:12 something profound necessarily although of course anything a person goes through before they pass

00:51:17 away is profound but he wanted to be with you until it was no longer possible and that's why

00:51:27 he had Shelly record and Shelly's half sister. That's why he had them record the last things he

00:51:34 was saying. And he just wanted to be with his audience. He had such a close relationship with

00:51:41 people he had never met. He had this connection with you. As much as people relied on him,

00:51:46 he also relied on his audience. And you'll learn also he did some things that were hypnotic

00:51:54 techniques. The simultaneous sip is a hypnotic technique. We all know it. We were all hypnotized

00:52:00 on purpose. We do it because it allows us to enter a space where we're more receptive to ideas that

00:52:07 he would give us and that we share with each other now. But he was also on the receiving end of that.

00:52:15 It wasn't like he was just putting on a performance for people and then dictating. He took as much from

00:52:21 his audience as he gave. And that started with Dilbert. He was the first cartoonist to write

00:52:25 his email address in the cartoon because he wanted people to give him feedback. And it was because of

00:52:30 the feedback that he focused on the office. At first, Dilbert was a guy. It was a cartoon about,

00:52:35 yeah, he worked at an office, but then he also went home and he walked his dog and he watched TV.

00:52:40 And people wrote in and said, the funniest ones are the ones at the office. And he said, okay,

00:52:45 my audience is telling me something. I'm going to stick to the office. I'm going to write about

00:52:49 Dilbert at work. So his audience guided him, persuaded him. That was a two-way street. And

00:52:56 it was the same with his live stream. And much of my relationship was every day sharing text

00:53:02 messages with Scott, but often giving him feedback what I thought worked and didn't. And usually I

00:53:07 was very deferential because he was almost always right and I was wrong. But sometimes I would just

00:53:11 say, hey, this made me think of this, or maybe you should consider that. I never knew what he was

00:53:15 going to say after that on the next live stream. That's how amazing he was that even if you had

00:53:19 intimate conversations with him, he never revealed his hand, but he did take it all in and it

00:53:25 affected how he looked at the world. So I think this book will allow you to experience something

00:53:32 new from Scott, new material, new insights that he wanted you to know. He wanted you to know

00:53:39 because he wanted me to write this for you. This is for you. It's not about I want a monument to

00:53:44 me after I die kind of thing. It's not how he looked at it. This is, this is for you. This is

00:53:49 a way to continue a relationship. So we're all going to grieve forever, but there's a part of

00:53:55 you that wants to walk out of the ark and see the rainbow. And, and this is, this is the new

00:54:00 relationship you have where he is a part of your everyday life. And, and you learn new things by

00:54:06 considering, you know, there are always going to be new situations where you apply the insights

00:54:10 that he's given you. So he is with you all the time. He's with me. I mean, I, I, I'm still using

00:54:14 reframes to make my day better. Anyway. Um, I've, I've been pretty long winded there, but

00:54:20 that's great. I mean, I was just thinking about what you said, you know, the,

00:54:24 the day Scott passed away, Shelly and I were texting that morning about, you know, like,

00:54:31 what do you want to do with the show? You know? And she was just like, I was like,

00:54:34 just, do you want to skip today? And she's like, if you can even believe it, like he wants,

00:54:39 like he thinks he's going to do the show today. She's like, but honestly, I don't, I don't think

00:54:44 so, you know, whatever. And so then this was like very early in the morning for them. And then,

00:54:49 you know, she, she was like, we're going to do the show, you know, just, I'm going to send you

00:54:55 the link. We're just going to, you know, go on and whatever. And, um, and then before we went

00:55:01 live, she came on to those of us backstage and just said, you know, can you believe it? Like he,

00:55:07 like he just she's like almost like he just did this to me like he just passed away and you know

00:55:13 now like here we are ready to go but you know even that day he wanted to he wanted to be with us as

00:55:20 much as he possibly could for us and then again with his memorial service being live streamed

00:55:27 he's just like i know everybody would want to be added if they could be so we'll live stream it

00:55:33 because that's how I communicated with everybody was through this live stream.

00:55:36 And how amazing was that?

00:55:38 It was so intimate in one way, but it felt so good sitting there.

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00:56:24 No way.

00:56:25 And laughter.

00:56:26 It's what happened to Tristan from Hamilton when he won the $1 million Lotto 649 gold ball draw.

00:56:32 Shock and awe.

00:56:33 All on his lunch break.

00:56:35 Play at olg.ca and the next person sitting stunned in the break room could be you.

00:56:41 With OLG, winning happens here.

00:56:43 Winner, Daniel.

00:56:46 All I could think about were his subscribers and the people watching

00:56:50 and how much he loved every single one of us

00:56:54 And that I was so in a weird way happy that we could all be listening and watching together because we did everything together with this community.

00:57:05 So, I mean, Scott really just, you know, he showed us how to another way to die than like the things that we might have had in our head, you know, that he could be present because he had his mind.

00:57:19 thank God. And, um, it was just, it was just a gift to be there till like basically his last

00:57:27 breath and, and now beyond. So can I make, can I make two points very quickly? So someone in the

00:57:33 comments just posted, he was there for us when Charlie Kirk was shot and also when Trump was

00:57:39 shot, but especially with Charlie Kirk and what's unique about the Charlie Kirk situation was Scott

00:57:45 thought he was going to die long before that happened. Scott thought he was going to die in

00:57:49 June, 2025. Charlie was assassinated in September. And by then Scott had made a significant recovery

00:57:57 in terms of his everyday experience of life. He still had a terminal diagnosis, but with the

00:58:02 hormone blockers he was taking, his tumors had stopped growing. So he had five or six months

00:58:07 where life almost felt normal. And he was there for his audience when people were freaking out,

00:58:13 understandably so about what happened to Charlie Kerr. And he was just there for people the way

00:58:19 he had been through the pandemic and the way he had been through 2020 and so many other things.

00:58:25 Now we're talking about some sad things and very emotional things, but I don't want people to think

00:58:30 that that's what the book is like. There's a lot of really funny, raucous, fun stuff in the book.

00:58:36 I'm going to share one joke with you, which I think you'll enjoy just because it's in the news

00:58:39 today. A lot of things are in the news today. I'm sure that Scott would be having a ball with the

00:58:44 Jensen Huang news and all the... Scott Galloway.

00:58:49 Scott Galloway. Oh, yeah.

00:58:51 Right. But I was rereading my book and I remembered something that Scott picked up,

00:58:59 which is that Trump has been promising to build a new ballroom for the White House

00:59:03 since 2015, maybe even before then. So when people are complaining about the ballroom,

00:59:09 People knew that Trump was going to try to do this.

00:59:12 So he had been talking about it in 2015 and Scott made a joke about it in 2015.

00:59:18 Can I give you the joke?

00:59:19 It's in the book.

00:59:20 Yeah.

00:59:20 I hope I don't watch.

00:59:21 I hear it.

00:59:23 You guys plug your ears.

00:59:24 But here comes a joke.

00:59:25 OK, no spoilers.

00:59:25 Scott writes.

00:59:26 I'm paraphrasing only slightly.

00:59:28 Scott writes.

00:59:29 Trump wants to build a ballroom in the White House.

00:59:33 They're going to build an adjoining room for the rest of his body.

00:59:39 I love that. He's like the consummate walking dad joke. I used to just always be like, dad.

00:59:48 Owen and Marcella, I just want to, Owen, if you want to have any closing remarks for the stream.

00:59:56 I mean, talking about this, I'm just kind of reflecting on my own experience or my own

01:00:02 relationship with Scott. And it just, you know, it strikes me that he was just such an authentic,

01:00:08 kind caring person and really just lived what you know what he espoused like he gave us lots

01:00:15 of advice but you could also see him doing all of those things on a daily basis and you know it

01:00:21 wasn't just about being transparent it was just like he would always tell you like this is what's

01:00:25 on my mind or this is what I think we should do or this is I think we should navigate the world

01:00:31 through this situation whether it is an up or a down or a funny situation and it just seemed like

01:00:36 he was always just such a like a guiding light and a comfort and i just really value all the

01:00:43 time i had with him yeah i'm looking forward to revisiting it by reading this book because

01:00:47 i agree that it's kind of a continuation of the relationship in that way yeah marcella

01:00:52 well i don't want to have last remarks because you know we want to laugh uh you know one of the

01:01:01 thinks about Scott is that he, he, you know, yesterday, Erica played the, the, I think

01:01:07 it was yesterday, the video, laughing. I can do it again today if you want.

01:01:12 Um, what I remember is that he, he always made us laugh. Like it was, uh, you know, what

01:01:18 fail. Yeah. What was the other things like, uh, crazy eyes. Do you see the crazy eyes?

01:01:25 he would come here and like show like his the video of like kamala aoc aoc all these things so

01:01:33 even though so it is you are right joel it is a great book to have after midterms um with the

01:01:42 blanket the plaid blanket we can lay and like read it and laugh at the left with uh scott because he

01:01:50 he found this uh like a lot of people get all very deep down angry like this communist this

01:01:57 and that and this other person like he just made fun of them he mocked them and that that's

01:02:04 powerful and the book just comes at a right time and thank you so much for writing it oh yeah um

01:02:12 joel last words to you of course well here's the book you can get it at scottadamsbook.com

01:02:20 which will link you to the Amazon page.

01:02:22 And I just want to thank all of you again

01:02:24 and thank Joshua and thank May,

01:02:28 who is Scott's art director,

01:02:29 and thank Bree and Savannah,

01:02:32 who are surviving members of Scott's extended family

01:02:35 and who were so helpful.

01:02:37 And Greg Gutfeld for doing such a favor to me

01:02:40 by promoting the book last night on his show.

01:02:43 And, you know, someone in the comments said,

01:02:46 you know, we're Scott's debris,

01:02:48 which is an idea from God's debris.

01:02:50 And the thing about God's debris is Scott's theory in that book is that God is the universe in a process of coming back together, that the purpose of all the disparate pieces of God are to come back together.

01:03:03 And I don't know if that sits well with your religious belief or whatever, but the concept, if you would take it and apply it to the idea of Scott's debris, is that we're not just bits and pieces of something that doesn't exist.

01:03:15 We're bits and pieces of something that's coming back together.

01:03:18 So an event happens, our friend leaves our planet, leaves this world. But we continue through his inspiration, through his teaching, through this show, and we bring it back together. And it doesn't have to be, and it can't be exactly as it was before, but it's something transcendent.

01:03:40 And I really hope you enjoy the book. It was for me like living with Scott the entire year. So I had that privilege. And I think it's just going to be a lot of fun. It's going to keep the conversation going. And this conversation will keep going because people need to hear what he had to say.

01:03:59 I think he will make people change their lives for the better.

01:04:03 And people are still rediscovering or discovering him for the first time.

01:04:08 And anyway, thank you to everybody who is watching.

01:04:12 Thanks to Erica, Owen, Marcella, and everybody there just for being such a great support.

01:04:18 Please buy it and let's push it as high as we can get it to go.

01:04:22 Great holiday gift.

01:04:23 And we have it on softcover, hardcover, Kindle, audiobook, everything.

01:04:28 Oh my gosh, we have it all, you guys.

01:04:30 And does it ship?

01:04:31 Yeah, it ships international because it's Amazon, right?

01:04:33 It should, it should.

01:04:35 Okay, so everybody, everybody can get this, no fear.

01:04:39 It ships so fast.

01:04:40 And when you get it in your hands,

01:04:41 you're going to be just so freaking excited.

01:04:44 I can't even tell you.

01:04:44 And there's pictures.

01:04:45 I love a book with pictures.

01:04:47 So, you know, that was much a whole childhood.

01:04:49 I do want to ask everyone on behalf of Scott,

01:04:53 if you want to drop it in the chat,

01:04:55 your answer to this question.

01:04:57 but this is one of the best things Scott gave us. So today, tell me, tell us you get to,

01:05:02 of course, I enhanced that with AI just to make it a little clearer. But Scott always said,

01:05:07 I get to. So drop your, I get to in the chat today, what you get to do. And we always take

01:05:15 Scott with us and the lessons, the reframes, everything, the laughter, the anger, the resolve.

01:05:21 I love it.

01:05:22 I love it all.

01:05:24 Joel, thank you so, so much for, you know, spending the whole hour with us and getting

01:05:29 to talk about our most beloved Scott Adams.

01:05:33 You guys, please pick up the book, scottadamsbook.com in case that's easier for you.

01:05:38 That'll take you right to the book.

01:05:40 You and Joshua did a great job and, you know, Scott picked you for a reason.

01:05:47 And like, that's, that's all I'm sticking to is that because, you know, he knew what

01:05:52 he wanted.

01:05:53 Um, Owen and Marcella, thank you so, so much.

01:05:56 And to everybody in the chat for being here, pick up all your goodies.

01:06:01 All of the links are also in the show descriptions, you guys.

01:06:04 Okay.

01:06:04 So if you're like, I want the mug that's on the cover of that book, you want to have

01:06:08 a very Scott Adams holiday season or Christmas.

01:06:11 This is the year.

01:06:12 Okay.

01:06:12 And you've got the calendar here.

01:06:14 all of the links are in the chat but do not forget that book that is the priority um you guys are

01:06:21 gonna love it all right so let's say thank you to scott and shelly for allowing this show to

01:06:26 continue we're all here together love it so much please also hit the thumbs up the subscribe it

01:06:32 helps our show to stay relevant and to keep going and um joel if you're on any other media give us

01:06:38 a shout out, would you? We want to keep it going. All right. So everybody, thank you so much. And

01:06:45 as always, a closing sip to our most beloved, beloved, beloved Scott Adams. To Scott. Scott?

01:06:52 Scott. And if anyone wants to stay, I'm going to play an Akira song. And if you have to jet,

01:07:00 go on and jet. And we'll see you. The home team will be here tomorrow. The three of us will be

01:07:04 back tomorrow okay bye everybody thanks joel thank you everyone

01:07:09 should i stay whatever you guys i start to feel that

01:07:16 i may have discovered the user interface

01:07:21 the reason that i thought that is that my life was working out so well

01:07:31 that I couldn't explain it in any ordinary way.

01:07:39 I tried to become a cartoonist with no experience in cartooning

01:07:43 without any experience.

01:07:45 I was the hottest cartoonist in the country.

01:07:52 At about the same time, I had written my first book.

01:07:56 It was a number one New York Times runaway bestseller

01:07:59 with no experience at writing books.

01:08:05 And there were a number of things that I was touching and doing,

01:08:09 and it seemed as if I could manipulate reality.

01:08:13 But here's the thing.

01:08:16 But here's the thing. 0.82

01:08:19 Was I manipulating reality to get these ridiculous results?

01:08:24 Or was I simply good at my job? 0.66

01:08:29 How can I tell? How would I know if I were manipulating reality, because that's sort of what it felt like, but that didn't seem right, right?

01:08:39 Or was I just good at my job, and I didn't realize how good I was, so I performed better than I expected?

01:08:46 Maybe. Could be. It's possible.

01:08:52 Maybe. Could be. It's possible.

01:08:56 and it seemed as if i could manipulate reality but i wanted to test it

01:09:04 maybe could be it's possible and so in 1997 i did a bold experiment and the experiment was this

01:09:15 i very publicly and annoyingly made a prediction and i chose an area in which i had no expertise

01:09:22 I thought I would try something that was just impossible.

01:09:27 I would make the most unlikely prediction and then wait as long as it took for it to become true.

01:09:38 And if indeed I could get the most unlikely prediction, then maybe other people would believe me when I explain to them the user interface for reality.

01:09:50 I predicted that in my lifetime, the theory of evolution would be debunked in scientific terms, not in religious terms, but in scientific terms.

01:10:03 You can imagine how well that went over.

01:10:05 Obviously, I'm a nut, and I should not be listened to, and you shouldn't listen to anything else I ever say.

01:10:09 That was 22 years ago, 23 years ago.

01:10:12 So something happened today that was a very big deal in my life.

01:10:17 and it was that there was a podcast

01:10:20 Patrick Ruelche

01:10:21 he told the story he heard of my prediction

01:10:23 about evolution being debunked

01:10:24 and then he brought the story

01:10:27 into the question of the simulation

01:10:28 now of course if the simulation is true

01:10:31 then what we believe about evolution

01:10:33 probably isn't

01:10:35 because you don't need evolution

01:10:36 if you have the simulation

01:10:38 we just are here

01:10:39 and our history is created on demand

01:10:42 whenever we go looking for it

01:10:44 maybe

01:10:44 could be

01:10:46 it's possible

01:10:48 maybe

01:10:51 could be

01:10:53 it's possible

01:10:54 and it seemed as if I could

01:10:58 manipulate reality

01:10:59 but I wanted to test it

01:11:02 maybe

01:11:04 could be

01:11:06 it's possible

01:11:08 what Patrick did is told you

01:11:12 something that I couldn't do

01:11:14 myself, that I couldn't tell you

01:11:16 that my prediction had actually came in.

01:11:19 I've been trying to, but I feel like I had failed at it

01:11:23 because I'm not credible about judging my own prediction.

01:11:27 Obviously, I've mistaken it.

01:11:29 If the simulation is true, evolution isn't.

01:11:34 So 22 years later, there's now a competing theory

01:11:38 that serious scientists buy into.

01:11:42 And although you can't tell which one is the true one,

01:11:45 if either one is maybe neither maybe they're just filters what you can tell is the odds

01:11:53 maybe a billion to one for the simulation

01:11:57 Maybe

01:12:03 Could be

01:12:05 It's possible

01:12:07 Maybe

01:12:10 Could be

01:12:12 It's possible

01:12:13 And it seemed as if I could manipulate reality

01:12:18 But I wanted to test it

01:12:21 Maybe

01:12:23 Could be

01:12:25 It's possible

01:12:26 So, having nailed my 22-year gamble, that I could make a prediction so unlikely that the best explanation is that somehow I'm authoring the reality just as a filter.

01:12:53 again that doesn't mean that i can't actually change reality it means that if i put that filter

01:12:58 on it i get good results and if you just think you're happy but you're not are you happy

01:13:04 yes you are if you think you're happy you're happy if you thought you went through life as

01:13:10 a billionaire but you were just crazy and you weren't still good still good because you're

01:13:17 happy you thought you were a billionaire so accept your subjective life 0.95

01:13:23 Maybe, could be, it's possible

01:13:29 Maybe, could be, it's possible

01:13:36 And it seemed as if I could manipulate reality

01:13:40 But I wanted to test it

01:13:43 Maybe, could be, it's possible

01:13:53 It's possible

01:13:58 Was that not the perfect song for today?

01:14:12 Yes.

01:14:13 I mean, it was perfect.

01:14:18 Thanks for the tips, you guys.

01:14:21 Thank you.

01:14:23 Yay.

01:14:23 no tax on tips you guys thank you that was such a special show and um just i feel i feel like i'm

01:14:34 gonna hang up and sob and then i'm gonna get on with my day no i do but i i need it i need it

01:14:42 we want to see you we want to see you i can't see you oh geez louise all right wait how about

01:14:48 Well, I thought you were going to say, we want to see you sob.

01:14:53 Oh, well, I'm sure there's people that do want to see that.

01:14:58 Too bad, people.

01:14:59 Take us to your closet.

01:15:01 Oh, my God.

01:15:02 Wait, how can I?

01:15:03 Show us your folding clothes.

01:15:06 Okay, there.

01:15:07 There I am for all of you to see.

01:15:11 Oh, okay, there.

01:15:12 So, you guys, thank you so, so much.

01:15:14 We'll be back tomorrow.

01:15:15 the three of us will be back to close out yet another week erica what do they need to do they

01:15:21 need to uh go and buy what the book right they need to go to scottadamsbook.com scottadamsbook.com

01:15:32 look and see marcella's mug the link for that is there too made in china oh never okay okay fully

01:15:43 made in america from soup to nuts that mug is made in america um yeah so go to scottadamsbook.com

01:15:50 and if you want the mug the mug the beanie the simultaneous swaddle the whatever you want oh and

01:15:58 you guys were so smart when look at me i'm so i cannot put on a hat and look in the camera when

01:16:04 joel was talking about um how you know scott had his email out there for everybody and then he

01:16:11 started getting feedback that people liked Dilbert better in the office. And you guys

01:16:15 started writing cha-ching. I'm like, that's right. That's the cha-ching song. You guys are so smart.

01:16:21 Everybody's so smart. Yeah. So, all right. Marcella, thank you for today and thank you for

01:16:29 the last 200 and something days. Who's counting? I might've asked my AI how many days.

01:16:39 I was like, how many days, if I did a show every day, Monday through Friday from January 13th,

01:16:46 it's like, that is 217 days. I'm like, thank you. And man, oh man, it's March. Stay dry today. Stay

01:16:56 dry, sister. We live near each other, March and I. Oh, is it raining? It's going to pour and we're

01:17:03 going to get a little storm action. You guys, I still have figs growing on my fig bush and it's

01:17:08 going to get like really cold tonight and it's going to be over, but what are you going to do?

01:17:11 Oh no. And my flowers are all still in my flower pots. I didn't pull them out like every other

01:17:17 sucker and loser. I said, let's keep going. And they're all there. Mike Burt, shout out to Mike 1.00

01:17:23 Burt. All right, you guys, Marcella, what are you doing today? Work, work? Yeah. Work and

01:17:30 uh meetings with people that yell at me it's like a dillbert cartoon i gotta yell back so

01:17:38 i hear a lot of yelling and that's with my colleague oh that's how we that's how we do it

01:17:46 short video of rain on shore you want us to give you a video um i could take a video of the rain

01:17:53 maybe maybe but i do have errands to run i have waxing today i have a waxing appointment

01:17:58 Would you like to take us with you? I mean, absolutely not. It's going to be a doozy.

01:18:04 And yeah. So if you're like, what's Erica doing today? I will be doing work because that never

01:18:09 ends, but my fun today will be waxing the bank, the pharmacy. And I think that's all of the like

01:18:18 things I have to get done. I have to get billing done, which is my favorite thing.

01:18:23 i hate that you like billing i hate doing quickbooks and all my invoicing

01:18:29 it's like cha-ching cha-ching cha-ching oh okay all right all right i understand the mission 0.76

01:18:36 but you you promised me something but i don't know if we can do it i did the scott laughing

01:18:43 club oh if you stuck around does anybody want this stuff the laughing scott compilation

01:18:50 it'll make me feel better if we get like four yeses in the chat we'll do the laughing i'll go

01:18:57 on the chat then who wants laughing compilation there's one two three four five six okay all

01:19:07 right it might be all me but you know listen yes yes all right you guys you ready let me move the

01:19:14 chat over. I'm already laughing. It's so freaking good. All right, here we go. See what happens

01:19:21 when you stick around for the after party on this show? All right, guys, we're going to do

01:19:27 some laughing and then we're going to skedaddle. Here we go. I've actually been crying. I've been

01:19:32 laughing so hard. I've been laughing for 10 minutes straight since I saw this. George

01:19:37 philosophical as a newscaster would hinge on several factors one source of information

01:19:42 viewers might be more inclined to trust his statements conversely if he has been wrong

01:19:57 before or shown bias viewers might question his claims three context of the information

01:20:07 I

01:20:09 I

01:20:11 I

01:20:13 I

01:20:15 I

01:20:17 I

01:20:19 I

01:20:21 I

01:20:23 I

01:20:25 I

01:20:27 I

01:20:29 I

01:20:31 I

01:20:33 I

01:20:35 The discrepancy would make his assertions seem less credible, or might suggest that he is part of a broader misinformation system.

01:20:42 So, audience, deception, and hate.

01:20:46 From a storytelling perspective, whether George is portrayed as a credible newscaster or as someone engaged in gaslighting.

01:20:53 Oh, I've watched this thing probably 15 times.

01:21:19 and i i literally cry every time i watch it like tears just shoot out of my eyes against my glasses

01:21:27 oh my god i don't look my cheeks hurt my cheeks are from laughing oh so good so good

01:21:36 where's the three cats we have what we only have two oh my elon's back on the shelf elon lives

01:21:44 right here. Okay. There's the Elon. I know. You get a pass. Wait till it gets cold out. Wait till

01:21:54 you see what I do then. Oh my gosh. Stay tuned. Oh, I swear. All right. Well, we're off. Now I

01:22:04 feel better. Yeah. Good. Me too. We should, we should end laughing for sure. Jerry, we'll see

01:22:09 you tomorrow, you guys. Have an amazing rest of your day. And don't forget, order the book. Get

01:22:14 one for a friend. Get one for a friend. And I have so many people that are like- Get one for a

01:22:18 Democrat. Ooh, yeah. Send that over. And get one for a friend because I have so many people that

01:22:27 are like, well, what was his show about? What did he do? And who is he? So you know what? I'm

01:22:32 going to answer them with a book here. Let's get this to number one, you guys. We've got to get

01:22:36 this to number one. All right. Perfect time. Bookish. Love you, sister. All right, guys.

01:22:41 We'll see you tomorrow. Bye, y'all. Bye, Marcella. Have a great day, darling. Oh,

01:22:47 no. Here comes the accent. Bye, darling. Bye, darling. Bye, darling. Bye for now.

01:22:55 We'll be the Zen.

01:22:57 Choose.

01:23:02 EJ.

01:23:02 There's EJ, Marcella.

01:23:04 Yes, yes.

01:23:05 We reunited.

01:23:07 Oh, good, good, good.

01:23:09 You guys, Scott Ritchie, I swear to God, I'm good.

01:23:11 Oh, my God.

01:23:12 You have a plant on your head.

01:23:14 That's the pineapple for my pizza, right, Scott?

01:23:18 Yep.

01:23:19 Scott knows the Erica.

01:23:21 Oh, yeah.

01:23:22 Oh, my gosh.

01:23:22 All right.

01:23:23 Bye.

01:23:25 Thank you.

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