Rebel News Podcast - April 15, 2022


ANDREW CHAPADOS ｜ Don't Burn This Country with Dave Rubin


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Dave Rubin is back promoting his new book, "Don't Burn This Country" and we talk about Joe Biden's comments about the Canadian Conservative Party. We also talk about inflation and why you should diversify your portfolio with physical gold and silver.

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00:00:00.160 Dave Rubin was the first guest on Andrew Says, and we're happy to have him back promoting his new book called Don't Burn This Country.
00:00:06.880 And I want to get into this book. I want to get into Joe Biden and even his comments about the Canadian Conservative Party that I saw on the Rubin Report.
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00:01:33.100 Let's get to Dave Rubin and all my amazing questions for my beard brother.
00:01:36.680 Joining me again, my very first guest on this show.
00:02:01.660 We're over 60 into it now.
00:02:03.200 Dave Rubin is here.
00:02:04.060 How are you?
00:02:04.540 Good, sir.
00:02:04.900 Did I know that I was the very first guest?
00:02:08.000 You were.
00:02:09.060 I think maybe I did know that, but now I feel, am I the first repeat guest?
00:02:13.380 Probably not.
00:02:14.300 No, but you're the very first guest of this show.
00:02:16.980 Episode 1.
00:02:18.520 Well, I feel undue pressure, and I hope that I can live up to it.
00:02:23.400 I think you already have.
00:02:25.160 Just judging by the quality of video feed we get from you.
00:02:28.460 Which is not the best for everybody, you know what I'm saying?
00:02:31.040 Your new book.
00:02:31.840 It's mostly about lighting and video, pretty much.
00:02:34.760 Whatever I'm going to say, yeah, you know, whatever.
00:02:38.800 Let's jump into it.
00:02:39.820 Your new book, Don't Burn This Country, follow up to the other book, Don't Burn This Book.
00:02:44.160 I don't think we did.
00:02:45.260 Want to tell us what inspired this book?
00:02:46.840 Why now?
00:02:47.300 Yeah, you know, it's interesting.
00:02:49.700 When I got the deal for Don't Burn This Book, which was the first book, as you just said, I was on tour with Jordan Peterson.
00:02:55.620 This was in 2018.
00:02:57.540 And, you know, being part of the Jordan experience.
00:03:03.780 You know, this Canadian professor, psychology professor who suddenly was touring the world telling people to stand up straight with their shoulders back and fix their life and own yourself and your thoughts and make a better world by starting with yourself.
00:03:18.320 It was such a worldwide phenomenon that I had started having all of these thoughts and people were recognizing me more and the show was really blowing up and all this stuff.
00:03:26.300 And then they reached out to me, the publishers, and they said, you know, we want you to write a book.
00:03:30.880 And basically the first book was in essence, hey, this is what I think about stuff.
00:03:35.200 These are the principles I believe in, which are classically liberal principles.
00:03:39.660 And I lay out all of those thoughts.
00:03:41.480 I relate them to the politics of the day.
00:03:44.020 And that really was what the first book was.
00:03:46.640 And then that was two years ago that we published it.
00:03:48.920 It was in April of 2020.
00:03:50.840 So quite literally two years ago this month.
00:03:52.900 And then over the last two years, between the explosion of wokeism, between the lunacy of COVID, the craziness of all of our political systems and everything else,
00:04:04.500 I started thinking, well, you know, laying out the principles is nice and it's good and it's worthy of doing.
00:04:11.200 And I'm so pleased that so many people enjoyed that book.
00:04:13.460 But what is the next step after that?
00:04:15.520 The next step after that is what do you do if the woke monster continues to march on you, if all of the nonsense that we are fighting all of the time continues to grow?
00:04:26.980 So, you know, boys are girls, girls are boys, two plus two is five.
00:04:30.600 Being non-racist is now being racist.
00:04:32.820 All of the endless craziness.
00:04:35.300 I mean, that's really what it is, just craziness that we're dealing with.
00:04:38.340 It's not stopping.
00:04:39.820 So laying out the ideas that I believe it isn't enough, what would be perhaps enough, and the jury's out on this, we'll see what happens, would be, hey, here's some of the things that you can do in your own life to live a better life in the midst of it.
00:04:53.240 And to fix yourself so that you will be prepared when the wokesters march on you and the mob marches on you and the government comes for you and all of those things. 1.00
00:05:04.840 So that's really what Don't Burn This Country is about.
00:05:06.460 It's more of, I would say, a how-to book in terms of how to fight this and live a good life, while the first book was more of, hey, this is what I believe.
00:05:14.580 And I hate to say it, but they'll most likely have to be a third book, which is, okay, they kept coming, and now how do we get to another planet?
00:05:22.080 Over the past couple of years, I agree, people have started to move towards more so, what can we do now?
00:05:29.020 We've been complaining, let's say, for five years since Trump, and what can we do now to start fighting back, whether it's universities or just culturally?
00:05:36.620 And I think that's a good step and a good direction to take for a topic of a book.
00:05:40.580 And I wrote down a couple of things I wanted to ask you about from there.
00:05:43.340 One of the quotes is, the woke mob cannot keep up with their own wokeness.
00:05:47.260 You want to explain what you mean by that?
00:05:48.580 We see a lot of that, especially with stuff like, you know, trans men or whatever it is in sports now.
00:05:55.200 Do you want to explain that quote?
00:05:57.320 Yeah, so, look, the woke thing, because it's not connected to what I would say are sane first principles, is always trying to outwoke itself.
00:06:08.520 This is what some people call this the oppression Olympics or sort of the intersectional hierarchy.
00:06:14.000 You know, that at the bottom of this is, if you're a straight, white, Christian man, you are the worst of the worst. 1.00
00:06:21.460 And then, if you're a gay person, you're up here. 0.95
00:06:26.120 If you're a trans person, you're above a gay person. 1.00
00:06:28.700 If you're also a lesbian and a female, you're up here. 0.99
00:06:30.960 If you've got a limp, you're up here.
00:06:32.220 A lazy eye, you're here.
00:06:33.340 All of these perceived oppressions give you worth.
00:06:37.200 So, what that does is people are constantly chasing their oppression.
00:06:42.460 They're trying – they are literally trying to find new oppressions.
00:06:46.560 They are trying to find new perceived victimhoods so that that will hopefully put them in the hierarchy at a higher spot than somebody else.
00:06:56.700 It's a horrific way to live, and it's actually, I would argue, anti-human.
00:07:01.140 I mean, I think the point of being human is so that you can think and take your life hopefully somewhat seriously so that you can accomplish the things that actually make you happy, make you feel fulfilled, and all of those things.
00:07:13.140 That's why the wokesters are so miserable. 1.00
00:07:15.380 I mean, show me a wokester, and I'll show you a miserable person. 1.00
00:07:20.280 There are some people who profit off the misery.
00:07:22.540 So, someone like AOC I don't think is miserable.
00:07:25.760 I think she's a – actually, I think at this point she's a genuinely bad actor in all of this.
00:07:30.040 I don't know what she really believes, but she doesn't strike me as a miserable person.
00:07:33.720 She's an actor using wokeness to usher in her, you know, communist or socialist utopia. 0.99
00:07:40.140 That's what she's doing, but she's making money on it, and she's getting fame and popularity so she can smile about it and do her stupid Instagram videos and all that. 1.00
00:07:48.000 But the foot soldiers of the woke are pretty miserable. 0.51
00:07:51.560 I mean, I don't have to show you that, you know, you know enough of the videos of the college kids and the professors and everyone's militant and angry.
00:07:58.560 And, by the way, they usually look pretty terrible and, you know, they're overweight.
00:08:03.040 And why is that?
00:08:03.760 And I'm not mocking overweight people, but because they don't want to take their own life seriously. 0.98
00:08:08.240 They don't want to fix themselves first to connect this back to being on tour with Jordan.
00:08:13.740 So, the woke movement, because it always wants more and more and more oppression, will always try to outwoke itself.
00:08:23.040 What you want to do to counter that is believe in the individual, believe that you have a life, the system may not be perfect, but if you live in the West, it's pretty damn good.
00:08:33.140 And you have a chance to do something with that life, but it's yours to go get.
00:08:36.980 It's not someone's to give you, and it's certainly not the best move for you to just burn things down because you're unsatisfied.
00:08:43.360 Are you saying you don't enjoy the AOC wine drinking and cooking videos?
00:08:47.940 Is that what I'm hearing here?
00:08:48.780 Can I tell you that I had just moved to Miami when her video came out when she was on vacation in Miami Beach, and our house wasn't closed yet, so I was staying at a friend on Miami Beach, and I knew exactly where she was.
00:09:01.180 I was about a half a mile away from her, and I see this picture of her drinking a martini or a margarita the middle of the afternoon.
00:09:07.560 Meanwhile, she won't vote in D.C. in person because of COVID, but she'll vacation in scary DeSantisville, right-wing mania, Florida, this vile human being.
00:09:20.660 And I actually had COVID at the time, and I thought, I should just walk out there, even though I wasn't feeling great.
00:09:25.460 My main thing with COVID, even though I was unvaxxed, my legs hurt more than anything else.
00:09:28.900 But I was like, I should just walk down to the beach and go say hi to her, because this woman is just so profoundly terrible.
00:09:36.240 I mean, if you believed any of the BS that you spew about COVID or anything else, you would have never vacationed in Florida.
00:09:43.640 But what did she want?
00:09:44.880 She wanted to be free.
00:09:46.460 She wanted to drink drinks.
00:09:47.780 She wanted to go to a drag bar on South Beach, which is exactly what she did. 1.00
00:09:52.400 And these idiots, I mean, these people who have, there's only, I can't think of other words to describe them.
00:09:57.240 All of these people at the drag bar, it's a jam-packed drag bar, and they're applauding her, and oh my God, AOC is here.
00:10:03.560 And it's like, this lady has locked down her own bars in the place that she lives. 1.00
00:10:08.440 She comes here where you have other people fighting for your freedom, and you morons are applauding her.
00:10:14.600 The extraordinary hypocrisy is not lost on me, in case you can't tell.
00:10:20.920 Another thing in the book, Dave, is a lot of our big tech censorship, as we all are staring down the barrel of every day, I think.
00:10:27.620 Do you think there's any hope left for these big techs?
00:10:30.940 Are we staying with Twitter?
00:10:32.300 Do you think we're, and I've been asking a few people this, are we just going to perpetually be jumping ship from Twitter to Getter to Parler to everything?
00:10:40.300 Or is there hope for one of these big platforms?
00:10:42.800 Is Elon Brigg hope?
00:10:43.820 What do you think about that?
00:10:45.400 Yeah, well, obviously, I wrote the book before the Elon thing, so I will address that.
00:10:49.160 But, you know, one of the things that I tried to do over the last couple years was put my money where my mouth was.
00:10:53.000 That's why I created Locals, which really was, in essence, at first a Patreon replacement, and it's much more than that now.
00:10:58.300 But we eventually merged with Rumble, which most people think of as a YouTube replacement.
00:11:02.720 But it really is an Amazon AWS replacement.
00:11:05.020 It's a sort of underbelly of the internet replacement so that you can host your own website without the fear of, you know, someone at Amazon just pressing a button or pulling a lever or whatever they do when they blew up Parler because they didn't like the competition, so to speak.
00:11:18.780 To address the Elon thing, which is the most interesting part of this, look, in the last week or so, he bought 9.2 percent of Twitter.
00:11:27.860 I think it cost him about $2.96 billion.
00:11:30.420 The stock then went up 26 percent, so the guy knows how to make a deal because just by him buying something, the value of the thing went up just like that.
00:11:38.120 So pretty clever on his part.
00:11:40.560 I think if there is a chance for Twitter to turn around, and Twitter is the most bizarre of all of them because, you know, Twitter is the one where the communication of all of our political elite and our culturally relevant people and everything else, that's where everyone is communicating.
00:11:57.780 It's the driver of so many of the other pieces of this, the video components of it and the podcast and the rest of it.
00:12:03.960 The conversation that happens on Twitter is what pushes everything else.
00:12:08.260 That's why Twitter seems disproportionately powerful relative to the amount of users it has or who's tweeting or who's reading it, et cetera.
00:12:17.000 I think there's a chance right now with Twitter that he could turn it around in a somewhat meaningful way.
00:12:23.560 You know, suddenly they're going to give us an edit button.
00:12:25.780 Well, OK, that's nice, but that's not really what the problem is.
00:12:28.460 The problem is the banning and the suspending and the shadow banning and blocking Hunter Biden's story and the fact that the president of the United States is not allowed to be on Twitter.
00:12:39.540 But I would say this.
00:12:40.480 You know, Elon's got a big headache coming because he had to have known what he was stepping into.
00:12:44.980 And everyone, the only question right now about all of this related to free speech and everything else is will he let Trump back on?
00:12:52.460 And who knows if Trump even wants back on? But if he doesn't let Trump back on, then he's really failed as the guy that came in and said, I'm defending free speech.
00:13:01.340 But he had to know this was coming. So what's his move there?
00:13:04.420 But you have to even go one layer deeper than that, because what happens after he lets let's let's say he lets Trump back on and Trump wants to go back on?
00:13:11.360 Well, will the Apple store allow Twitter to be in the app store?
00:13:14.700 Sure. That's questionable. Right. And if he does all that and Tim Cook allows the Apple store on, then what happens with Facebook?
00:13:21.760 What happens with Pinstagram or Pinterest or whatever the hell the rest of these things are called?
00:13:26.060 Are they all going to let him back on? You know, the guy's not on Spotify. He's not allowed to listen to music.
00:13:31.300 So these are all interesting questions. But I suspect I mean, Elon Musk doesn't just do things without thinking them through.
00:13:37.420 So he must he must be thinking about this. What do we do related to Orange Man?
00:13:43.600 Because that is still the biggest issue. I want to ask you about locals in Rumble.
00:13:48.140 I saw the other day Rumble's sharing record numbers.
00:13:52.680 And of course, locals is involved with that with you. Has everything been going smoothly, smoothly with that?
00:13:57.460 Are there anything that you can is there anything that you can tell us about coming up in the future?
00:14:00.660 People might be excited about. I just want to know the last time we spoke, you were you were promoting locals.
00:14:05.580 And as as this new thing and it's grown so much into this integration with Rumble, what do you tell people about that as it's going forward now?
00:14:12.860 Yeah, I'm glad you asked. Look, I'm super psyched about what's going on here.
00:14:15.540 So in essence, when I started locals, it was really just to secure my stuff.
00:14:19.840 I didn't like being so reliant on all the big systems.
00:14:22.860 So I wanted to make sure I could own my audio. I could own my video. I would own my user data.
00:14:27.480 You know, I have something like one point seven million subscribers on YouTube.
00:14:32.160 I don't have any of their contact information.
00:14:34.320 The YouTube algorithm is what decides whether my own subscribers, the people who have selected to click a button to say, I like Dave, in essence, and I'd like to see his videos.
00:14:44.020 The algorithm decides whether they see those videos or not.
00:14:46.820 So I wanted a direct way of making sure that I could communicate with my audience.
00:14:51.220 I wanted something that if I posted a video or I sent out a message, they were going to get a push notification on their phone.
00:14:57.180 No algorithmic tricks.
00:14:58.320 It was direct one-on-one, me to my audience, live chat, live video streaming, everything else.
00:15:03.100 We built it.
00:15:04.220 It started getting some really nice traction.
00:15:06.580 Eventually, we did this merger with Rumble.
00:15:08.440 Rumble, as I said, is more than a video site.
00:15:11.260 It really is a – it's an underbelly of the internet replacement for AWS, Amazon Web Services.
00:15:17.980 The company, the growth is absolutely spectacular at the moment.
00:15:21.200 And I think we're building alternative pipes.
00:15:23.800 That really is what we are trying to do.
00:15:26.000 Whether Elon fixes Twitter or not, we have a lot of things that we need to fix about the internet.
00:15:31.420 Most of it will have to go decentralized, but there's problems with decentralization, too, because, you know, there's a lot of awful things online, too.
00:15:38.120 You know, there's child porn or whatever other horrific things that you can think of or not think of are online.
00:15:43.380 Do you want that decentralized where it can never be taken down?
00:15:46.060 Probably not.
00:15:46.700 So there's all sorts of questions that we have to think about legally, philosophically, technologically, et cetera.
00:15:53.000 But the growth on both platforms has been really fantastic.
00:15:56.500 I believe that capitalism and competition is always the better way to succeed rather than using the boot and the force of government.
00:16:04.960 So I'm very bullish on what's going on with Rumble.
00:16:07.780 And I would welcome people to subscribe to rumble.com slash rubinrecord.
00:16:12.180 And the names on Rumble now is just almost everybody, Crowder, Russell Brand, the president's son, one of my favorites, Jorge Masvidal.
00:16:22.580 Jorge, come on the show.
00:16:23.880 And I want to talk more about your book tour.
00:16:27.620 But before I forget, there's a video you put out months ago during the Ottawa trucker protest.
00:16:33.160 It's been on my mind for a long time.
00:16:34.540 And I'm like, I have to ask him about this.
00:16:36.340 You were one of the only especially American commentators talking about the Canadian Conservative Party.
00:16:41.100 And up here, there's still this mysticism of, you know, the Canadian Conservative Party will save us.
00:16:46.480 They've got a new guy who wants to be in charge.
00:16:48.920 He's going to be the savior to everybody.
00:16:50.460 But something you said is you basically characterized them as like sort of mainstream Republicans, establishment Republicans.
00:16:57.780 How did you get to that point?
00:16:59.020 Because it's very interesting to me considering many Canadians don't have that opinion.
00:17:02.580 And I'm in agreement with you on that.
00:17:05.560 You know, it's interesting.
00:17:06.640 Well, first off, I've really always loved Canada.
00:17:09.460 I've always loved Canada.
00:17:11.180 From the first time I went to Canada, I think I was like sixth grade or something.
00:17:15.860 And we took a family trip to Montreal.
00:17:17.700 And the one that I really remember later was I was about 12 years old and we went to Toronto.
00:17:23.340 And the reason that one really stuck out in my mind was there was a Nintendo exhibition in Toronto.
00:17:29.240 Old school 8-bit Nintendo.
00:17:31.400 I think maybe N64 or the next or Super Nintendo was just coming out, something like that.
00:17:35.640 And it just so stuck in my mind that, like, Toronto was this incredible place.
00:17:41.200 I also loved the old school Blue Jays from back then.
00:17:43.680 Even though I was a Yankees fan, I always loved Dave Winfield who played on the Yanks.
00:17:46.660 And then, of course, he won a World Series and had that, I think, Game 7 hit in around 92 or so.
00:17:52.560 But anyway, so I've always had a certain affinity to Canada.
00:17:54.700 And then I had a lot of viewers over the years from Canada.
00:17:57.840 I think that, you know, Canada is an interesting place because you've got a lot of geography.
00:18:01.280 You don't have a ton of people.
00:18:03.020 And I think in some ways the meme of, you know, Canadians are just nice, it was because Canadians sort of didn't have a lot to fight for.
00:18:10.540 And I mean that in the best sense.
00:18:12.720 It's like it's kind of worked in Canada.
00:18:14.420 So Canadians can be thought of as kind of pleasant.
00:18:16.860 And what's your major export to us?
00:18:19.440 Not necessarily oil.
00:18:20.600 It's usually very pleasant comedians that we all like.
00:18:23.360 John Candy and Rick Moranis and Dan Aykroyd and all of these guys that, you know, are really kind of fun and pleasant and, you know, really jovial, really, more than anything else, having that Canadian spirit.
00:18:35.960 So anyway, over the years I ended up doing a lot of public events in Canada.
00:18:39.520 And Jordan and I went up to Canada, which obviously is his home country, and we did about 10 shows there.
00:18:44.140 And I did a bunch of shows with Maxime Bernier over the years from the People's Party of Canada, obviously, in effect, the Libertarian Party.
00:18:51.300 And I met all of these Canadians, and I'm talking about some of the Canadian issues.
00:18:55.320 So first off, I started doing a little bit of research on what was really going on with, you know, the political parties there.
00:19:01.040 And in essence, what you guys have is you sort of have a liberal party, the Trudeau Party, that's kind of the woke party.
00:19:09.880 So that's what our progressives are. And then you have a Republican Party, your conservative party, we call it the Republican Party here, that really are just sort of liberal light.
00:19:21.340 They're not like completely insane, but they're kind of 90 percent insane, something like that.
00:19:26.880 Sort of what I would say the traditional Republicans are here. They're basically just Democrats, and they go on MSNBC and they get pat on the head, and then they run around saying they're Republicans or conservatives, but they never conserve anything.
00:19:40.740 So it sort of became obvious to me. So when I said that, a lot of people did respond to that, like that was a really good assessment of what's going on up in Canada.
00:19:49.620 And then I did, I had Maxime Bernier on during the trucker situation. We talked a little bit about that as well.
00:19:58.260 And it's like, if you care about liberty truly in Canada, you should probably spend more of your time with the People's Party and really explaining to people what liberalism or libertarianism really is.
00:20:11.500 You can also explain what classical liberalism is, but that word is so mangled that that's hard to do.
00:20:17.920 You should probably do that because the conservative party, they got dragged to doing something decent related to lockdowns.
00:20:25.380 They could have led on this all along, right? They could have been screaming what Maxime and the other people were talking about and what the truckers wanted.
00:20:33.400 The conservatives literally had to be dragged by a truck to do it.
00:20:37.580 Yeah, and I appreciate you talking about that sort of stuff because, like I said, it might take somebody who's a Dave Rubin supporter or viewer to come to that realization, whereas here they might think, oh, he's better than Trudeau.
00:20:51.320 That's what you heard a lot last election, even though he won again. Oh, anybody but Trudeau.
00:20:54.920 And then finally, they sort of caught up to, I'll say my position or the Rebel News position, that the former leader of that party, Aaron O'Toole, was basically a different style of Justin Trudeau.
00:21:04.460 He went back on all of his promises, and now we've got this conservative party election coming in, I think, September.
00:21:10.980 And it'd be interesting to see you cover that once the leader is selected as well there.
00:21:15.440 I want to move this behind the paywall for a few more minutes, so if you're not a Rebel News Plus subscriber, go to rebelnewsplus.com.
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00:21:28.000 We'll see you there.