ANDREW CHAPADOS ｜ Gary Sheffield Jr. Roasts Mainstream Media
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NBA player Andrew Wiggins has said he won t take the C.O.D. vaccine. Why is he so adamant about not taking it? Why does he have a problem with it? What role should he play in the league? And what role should the league do about it? We talk to Outkick's Gary Sheffield Jr. about it.
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Every player, every person in this world is going to make their own decision for themselves.
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I would like an explanation to, you know, people with vaccines.
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I would start with, I've had COVID in the past.
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And so our understanding of antibodies, of natural immunity has changed a great deal
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from the onset of the pandemic and is still evolving.
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We can only presume that you're not joining us right now because of vaccination.
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And if so, do you expect to be either vaccinated or compliant in time by the time you guys come
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back from L.A. after that postseason game, after the preseason game?
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Yeah, no, Brian, I appreciate your questions, bro.
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Honestly, I like to keep that stuff private, man.
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I'm a human being first and obviously living in this public sphere, it's just a lot of questions
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And I think I just would love to just keep that private and, you know, handle it the right
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We're less likely to die or go to the hospital.
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So, and you can still pass it along with the vax, right?
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What's the reason for not just explaining what you believe?
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I don't ask you guys what you think is right or wrong.
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I understand that the vaccine would help if you catch COVID and you'll be able to have
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But with me having COVID in the past and having antibodies, um, with my current age group and
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a fitness, physical fitness level, um, it's not necessarily a fear of mine, uh, taking the
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vaccine, um, like I said, it would decrease my chances of, uh, having a severe reaction,
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but it does open me up to the, albeit rare chance, but the possibility of having an adverse
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Gary Sheffield Jr. is a commentator and writer for outkick.com.
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He appears on a ton of popular sports podcasts and shows, and now on Rebel News.
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I want to jump right into it with the NBA player.
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For those who don't know from the Golden State Warriors, Andrew Wiggins.
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I believe his quote was, I'll only take it if I'm forced to.
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Are you hearing anything from inside the league about what the team plans to do?
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Well, I would assume the team's probably going to maybe not look to trade him over the vaccine,
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And that's the thing is he said, until I'm forced to, I'm not going to get the vaccine.
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The problem is he's going to be berated until he gets vaccinated, and that's the same reality
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You're going to be chastised by your bosses, and that's essentially what's happening to him.
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And whether or not you're worth $200 million or you're worth $40K a year, you're still going
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to be attacked for your freedom of choice and utilizing that to not get vaccinated.
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So I feel bad for him as much as I wish I was in his position financially, but ultimately
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He's still fighting for his freedoms, and it lets you know that Andrew Wiggins never would
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have been vaccinated in large part because he's in shape and he's not going to get sick
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Yeah, and I believe the San Francisco rules are any indoor events require vaccination.
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So it does put the team in a really difficult position of where they have to do.
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They either have to give him an exemption or they have to look at trading him, which is
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Now, I spoke to you recently about NFL players Cole Beasley, Isaiah McKenzie, and also there
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is a few NHL players as well, Tyler Bertuzzi, Zach Rinaldo, and Archibald.
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Some of them won't be able to play in Canadian games for this.
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How do you think this plays out in the major sports leagues?
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Do you think if more people come out, they're going to drop these mandates, or do you think
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they're just going to start handing out exemptions based on whatever, or how do you think this
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It's actually, we're going to need the boosters to show up and players to say, well, what exactly
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is the benefit for me to actually get vaccinated?
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And what they're going to see is that protocols are not going to loosen.
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They're going to say initially that, yeah, we're going to give them more freedoms, but you're
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going to see positive tests and they're going to all continue on.
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And eventually those players are going to catch on and those numbers are going to drop.
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They're not going to get to a hundred percent with the Delta variant and all the booster
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They're just not going to do it because half the league is going to say, I thought I got
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And what people realize is that this doesn't end with your compliance.
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That's when you're going to start seeing pushback.
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And that's when the league is going to start going towards normalcy again.
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So in the short term, do you think that these players cave?
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I mean, I know you hope that they don't, but for three young guys, one of them got sent
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I don't think Archibald is moving the needle a huge amount.
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Do you expect them to get treated, to get demoted?
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I expect them to cave when 98% of your league is vaccinated.
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And it really just depends on the individuals and leadership in that league.
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And in the NFL, which is predominantly the audience is conservative.
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It's just that you have a lot of conservative NFL players as well.
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Those leagues eventually are just going to, the players are just going to wake up.
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It's going to take time and I do expect them to fold and that's unfortunate, but the elite
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And you mentioned baseball, a lot of guys from communist countries in there.
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I remember, I think it was JD Martinez who spoke out a couple of years ago against all
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And now to have all this stuff happening, when you got guys from Cuba and Venezuela and they're
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really good players in the league, I think that does help in stopping it.
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I want to move over to your wonderful president, Joe Biden.
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He had some interesting views on how to eliminate the debt that's happening because of COVID and
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I'll let him speak for himself here, as wonderful as it's going to be.
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We're paying, we're going to pay for everything we spend.
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So it's not, you know, people, understandably, well, you know, it started off at $6 trillion,
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now it's $3.5 trillion, now it's going to be $2.9 trillion.
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It's going to be zero, zero, because in that plan that I put forward, and I said from the
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outset, I said, I'm running to change the dynamic of how the economy grows.
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The trillionaires and billionaires are doing very, very well.
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We're paying for everything we spend by taxing people more.
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It sounds like even though this is the tax plan that he made, and then he made the billionaires
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Does anything make, any of this make sense to you, Gary?
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Taxes, and most people watching this show, they already know this.
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Taxes actually don't work for the rich, because they, for the most part, aren't making salaries.
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They're not making these type of wages to be taxed on.
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They're making the passive incomes, and a lot of them, like you'll see Jeff Bezos, who's
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You're talking about people like Jeff Bezos, like the Facebook CEO.
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So really, Joe Biden's just sitting here wasting his time, and he's exciting college students.
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That's really the point, is young students are going to look at this and say, who are
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They're looking at this and saying, well, this is providing us hope.
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This is exciting, because maybe we're not the problem.
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Our laziness and our political choices are not affecting us.
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But what they're going to realize is that pointing up at the rich people, and people
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more successful than you, and claiming that their tax bracket is the reason that you're
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unsuccessful, they're going to realize that eventually it's an excuse, and they're going
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to realize that once we look like Australia, and we're completely totalitarian, and really
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So it's really sad, and I see a lot of people my age, I'm 27 now, a lot of people are just
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So he's really trying to play the strings of emotion, and for us conservatives, it doesn't
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Gary, you've been around the league, particularly baseball, for a long time.
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How much of this rubs off on the players when they're thinking about their taxes and saving
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I mean, are players really thinking about the tax brackets in states that they're going to
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It's actually a huge factor, and agents look at this first and foremost, and it doesn't
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take a liberal or a conservative to have this point of view.
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Despite what rich people, all these movie stars want to say about, please join my family
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foundation, and we're going to do all this to do everything we can.
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They still want to keep as much money as they can.
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They want to buy everything that they want to buy, and we're always looking to make another
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That's not exclusive to rich people or poor people.
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So anytime I look at it and I say, well, you have a choice of whether or not you want to
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play in New York, or you can play in Texas, or you can play in Florida, you're going to
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I mean, that's the reason you see people immigrating anyways, straight to Florida, out of New York,
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and all the places with high tax brackets, that's where everyone's leading.
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Yeah, and I noticed that in hockey, too, which it always comes back to for me, of course,
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A lot of the better players as they get older, like Roberto Luongo moving to Florida, all of
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a sudden, your huge contract, you're making even more in your twilight seasons by playing
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Now, sticking with Biden, his approval rating is the lowest it's ever been.
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I actually spoke to a Black Lives Matter leader the other day who's saying that the
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approval with Biden among Black people is the lowest it's ever been because of vaccine
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How are you feeling about Biden's job on the border and the economy?
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Maybe if we can stick with the border, since you're on a border state.
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How are you feeling about his handling of this?
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Well, it's frustrating because he's undervaluing my vote.
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And no matter what the audits say, if they eventually say that the ballots and everything
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was the way it was supposed to be, it lets me know that people are entering this country
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who feel differently than the way Arizonans have felt for years.
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And Arizona, the way it was being run, was great.
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And so now that I see the way that it's going at the border, I realize that my vote just
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Everything that's happening just makes me less valuable.
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So obviously, anybody who's lived here for over five or 10 years is very frustrated.
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Now, speaking on the border, I want to show a video that happened recently about the Haitian
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illegal migrants coming to the border, getting rounded up by Border Patrol.
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And you're and my favorite analyst, Joy Reid, had something to say about this.
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And very quickly, you know, I know that, you know, funding for the government begins in
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Should we be looking at the budget of Department of Homeland Security?
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Because I was not aware that whips, which come from the slave era, slavery era, were part
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of the package that we issue to any sort of law enforcement or government-sanctioned
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Were you aware that that was being issued to people, that people had that kind of equipment
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Now, Chris Cuomo at CNN also said that this looks like slavery.
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They're confusing the reins on horses with whips.
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Gary, why do you think that these pundits are so quick to, you know, be like, this is
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They don't know what reins on a horse actually look like, okay?
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Because they don't actually get their hands dirty and do work.
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That's for the blue-collar people in this country.
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Everybody was up in arms with the kids in the cages.
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What are we going to do to save these poor children leaving Mexico?
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How many times have you heard kids in the cages?
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Now, all of a sudden, we're talking about cracking whips.
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And that's what a lot of people in downtown LA are doing.
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So what I'm trying to understand is that we're consistently moving the—no matter what we do,
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we move the goalposts, and we start caring about one thing.
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If we're talking about audits, it's the next thing.
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They actually wanted us to care, Americans to care about these pictures of whips.
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I care about how many people illegally crossed the border and how many people did we protect
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And those are the only numbers that should matter to any American.
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Yeah, and a lot of stuff is just misplaced with the argument.
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Like you said, it went from children in cages, but they're not in cages now.
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And I think something that's also lost in them is a lot of border security agents are
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Hispanic Americans because they can speak Spanish, and they might have had relatives
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who are legal immigrants, or they have relatives that are legal immigrants, and they know the
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process and how difficult it can be, or they're familiar with it.
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And they also call for not being able to use horses because they say it looks bad.
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They were speaking with the guy in charge there, and they're saying they can't be hurting
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But you were the guys who wanted more stuff like this.
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They wanted more people actually patrolling the border.
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And now that they're getting that, it's become this racist trope of we can't identify what
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tools are needed for a horse, so we're calling it racist now.
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It really gets sad when it's going to this back and forth, like you said, where nothing
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We're just complaining about the process in which we've actually been championing for the
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last five years, but now we don't like how it looks because we just care about the optics
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I could go on and on all day about that, but I think something needs to be said for the
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fact that it doesn't matter about the tripe of the people traveling there.
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It doesn't matter the situation they're putting their children in.
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As long as we're getting them in the country, who cares about what happens after that, or
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who cares about what happens at the border, we should just let them all in.
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Big segue here to Nicki Minaj, I think, very different topic, but I wanted to get this
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in with you because it's hard for me to find somebody that I see eye to eye on so many diverse
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She's getting rolled over by the mainstream media.
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I think she might be still suspended from Twitter, or she's silent on there right now.
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She was daring to share her story about a cousin.
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She even called Joy Reid, as we just saw, homophobic for her past blog posts.
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Do you think there's merit to what Nicki Minaj's message has been?
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One, about just researching before you make this decision, and two, about this mainstream
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media thing where we're supposed to be hyping up Black women and minority women all day,
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every day, but as soon as they step out of line, we're turning on them immediately.
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Black women, women in general, any minority, any person, you are useless to Democrats.
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All that matters is that you draw the same conclusion that they draw, and you're going
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And right now, those rules are do exactly as you're told, question nobody.
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And Nicki Minaj did not even come out and say, you need to come to the same conclusion I did.
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That's essentially what she was letting us know, and that she was, at the very least,
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Thinking about the process of getting vaccinated.
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Anybody in human history that's ever said, hey, this is my process, and I hope you consider
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my process, but your process is okay, that person's the good guy.
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Nobody has ever said, hey, whatever your freedom of choice is, that's okay.
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When has that ever been an issue in human history?
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Anyone else that's insisting that, well, I don't care what Nicki Minaj says, or I don't
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care what LeBron James says, we do care what they say.
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We do care what they say, but we're trying to control them to think what we say.
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We want them to echo everything we say and turn this whole thing into a bunch of propaganda,
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where somebody with 60 million followers can say what we say.
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But the thing about Nicki Minaj, I like when she talks about politics like this.
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I do, because she's a regular person just like I am.
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And so people in the media are so angry at Nicki Minaj because they don't actually care
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If they actually cared about Black people, they would listen to all of them.
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But they only listen to a select few, and that should tell you everything you need to know.
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You know, I was going to close on that, but I want to ask you, and it's the same question
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I asked the leader of BLM New York the other day.
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Do you trust any of these progressive politicians who are constantly touting, you know, minorities,
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we need to uplift them, we love Black lives so much, we need to change the system to benefit
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Do you buy any of that, or is that, on the other side, an indication that they're less
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Well, when Donald Trump had the United States and Black ownership in total, Black ownership
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in just Black revenue, ownership in real estate, all of these numbers were up, ownership in
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When all those numbers objectively were up, how many of these progressive people who are
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pro-Black pointed to those numbers and said, I like what I see?
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And anytime you see those politicians and they're silent when you're successful as a Black man and
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as a Black woman in America, you know who's on your side.
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They want to talk about successful Black people and say, oh, you're an anomaly, so this isn't
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When Donald Trump was in office, I knew Black people were doing better than that they've done
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And the fact that progressives were not happy, I knew that they weren't real progressives and
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Outkick.com, read his articles there and go follow him on Twitter.
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I just like looking at your Twitter while I'm watching a baseball game.
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No, hopefully they start doing things the way we do it.
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Because I know, personally, I know a lot of Canadians that come down here for the winter
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and hopefully they come down for the summer too and start voting like us.