Rebel News Podcast - ANDREW CHAPADOS ｜ The Evolution of Ryan Long

00:00:00.000 A lot of people will say that women are crazy, for example, 1.00

00:00:02.900 but do you think that's just a problem where we put too much stigma on the word crazy 0.64

00:00:06.020 and if we made crazy a positive thing, it wouldn't be so bad?

00:00:08.720 I think everyone's a little crazy.

00:00:10.600 If when you're in a relationship, what are some of the techniques that you'll use to, like,

00:00:13.820 nag the guy so we can look out for those as men? 0.75

00:00:16.680 I don't know. Just lower his self-esteem, I guess.

00:00:19.920 Calling him names or something.

00:00:21.320 When me and Brad first met, I didn't think we'd get along,

00:00:23.580 but it turns out we kind of agree on everything.

00:00:25.340 Your racial identity is the most important thing.

00:00:27.340 Everything should be looked at through the lens of race. 0.98

00:00:28.920 Jinx, you owe me a Coke. 1.00

00:00:30.000 Damn. 0.99

00:00:30.440 We both have a lot of opinions about people of color, even though we barely know any. 0.99

00:00:33.500 I say colored people, but as long as we're classifying them, 1.00

00:00:36.140 we both think minorities are a united group who think the same and act the same.

00:00:39.420 Monday morning, I woke up to the news that I'm being let go from my position at Vice magazine,

00:00:44.360 and this comes after years of dedicating my life to writing articles like 0.98

00:00:47.580 A Woman's Guide to Tucking in Your Dick. 1.00

00:00:49.680 Yes, there are trans animals. 1.00

00:00:51.420 Why some men choose to remove their penis. 0.99

00:00:53.440 The Kim Oji app doesn't work for Grindr. 1.00

00:00:55.780 And a modest take on why men terrorize women with poop. 0.85

00:00:58.660 So my nephew, we're pretty sure that he's trans because he's always like crying and 1.00

00:01:02.060 stuff like that.

00:01:02.600 What age is it okay to just start transitioning?

00:01:05.020 Wouldn't you just ask him?

00:01:06.360 Well, he can't speak yet.

00:01:07.620 Right now, he's only a week and a half old.

00:01:09.500 You should wait and ask him.

00:01:10.640 Ryan Long is a stand-up and sketch comedy performer.

00:01:28.660 He's probably your political commentator's favorite comedian.

00:01:31.500 He's performing in Toronto on December 16th and 17th.

00:01:34.660 Go to RyanLongComedy.com for more information.

00:01:37.560 Ryan, thanks for joining us.

00:01:38.940 How are you doing today?

00:01:41.380 Yo, just about to leave for Phoenix.

00:01:44.120 So we're doing one last day in New York.

00:01:46.040 How's it going?

00:01:46.520 And you guys are in North York, Toronto?

00:01:48.240 Yes.

00:01:49.360 I'm pumped to come back.

00:01:50.720 I haven't been back in forever.

00:01:53.520 Well, I hope we can stop by the show when you come in and see how you're doing there.

00:01:58.760 Last time I talked to you, I think a few weeks ago, you were in Texas for a couple of

00:02:02.700 festivals.

00:02:03.100 How did that go?

00:02:03.840 How free was it?

00:02:05.080 Give me the down low.

00:02:05.980 Yeah, I know.

00:02:07.860 I haven't been to Canada in a while, but New York's pretty much back to normal right now.

00:02:12.500 But I was in Texas.

00:02:13.940 Then I went to L.A.

00:02:16.100 It is funny.

00:02:17.580 I'll tell you one thing that makes me laugh about going to Texas and those places.

00:02:21.080 I think people like New York and L.A. forget how much people in other places hate New York

00:02:27.140 and L.A.

00:02:27.960 And I guess Toronto.

00:02:29.880 Canada doesn't have that much of that.

00:02:31.960 I guess everyone sort of hates Toronto.

00:02:34.200 But you go to those places and you go, oh, we're in New York. 0.57

00:02:38.300 They go, oh, the communist hellhole. 0.84

00:02:39.960 They hate New York over there.

00:02:43.140 Well, people still think that Canada's got this thing about it where we've got everything

00:02:47.960 figured out.

00:02:48.780 I'm reading a bunch of stuff about Canada throwing out, like recently, one of our members

00:02:55.620 of provincial parliament got thrown out for not staying at home for 90 days after testing

00:03:02.160 positive for COVID, even though she presented a negative test.

00:03:06.040 And you just read all the comments like, good, they're doing good stuff up there.

00:03:11.300 Canada's doing it right.

00:03:12.440 And people still have this aura about Canada where it's, you know, really sensible and everything's

00:03:17.240 meticulous and done the right way.

00:03:19.180 So maybe that's a little bit different than how people see New York.

00:03:23.960 Yeah.

00:03:24.620 I mean, as far as like the COVID stuff goes, I've been getting yelled at by both sides

00:03:28.920 because of my opinions on this one.

00:03:30.460 But like there's a part of me, even when they were doing the lockdowns, they go, oh, you're

00:03:34.680 allowed to have like a gathering of four now.

00:03:36.640 And I'm like, I mean, you can make it a gathering of one because I'm not obeying any of this

00:03:40.260 stuff.

00:03:41.020 So I guess, you know, the people have to get the vaccine for their job.

00:03:45.160 That's real.

00:03:45.620 But as far as most of the stuff goes, I've no, even like peak COVID in New York, they

00:03:50.680 go, you know, people aren't allowed to leave your house.

00:03:52.560 And you're like, yeah, there's like nine raves happening on this street alone.

00:03:56.680 So, you know, no one was obeying any of this stuff.

00:03:59.640 I mean, I went back to Canada last winter and everyone was, you know, doing stuff.

00:04:05.360 So, I mean, you know, some people are safe and some people aren't.

00:04:08.180 But as far as the actual, a lot of this stuff probably is more of like an internet argument

00:04:14.800 than it is like in real life.

00:04:16.860 Well, in Alberta, you're not supposed to, if you're unvaccinated, you're not supposed to 1.00

00:04:20.960 meet together at all, only in your own household.

00:04:23.020 You're not allowed to meet privately with another unvaccinated person. 1.00

00:04:26.280 But I'm guessing that a lot of people don't actually follow that.

00:04:30.160 And I wanted to ask you about.

00:04:31.760 Yeah, you can't.

00:04:32.440 That's Australia is the same thing. 0.58

00:04:33.800 Yeah.

00:04:34.200 Because I see on the news, it'll be always like, you know, this guy tried to go get a

00:04:38.240 bucket of KFC and the cops are, you know, they put him in a headlock, you know, he's

00:04:43.460 in the hospital because he wanted to get food.

00:04:45.600 Right.

00:04:46.040 But then I talked to my friends and who actually live there and they're like, that's one place

00:04:51.360 and like 90% of it's, I don't know, but I don't know what to believe.

00:04:54.280 Unless you're there, you know, who knows?

00:04:58.360 Because I mean, I'll tell you what, even being here, there's so many things where about Canada

00:05:05.860 that people will be like, oh, Canada, if you want to go to, if you want to get like, if

00:05:09.740 you break your arm, you have to wait like, you know, three and a half years to get your

00:05:13.420 cast on.

00:05:15.840 And you go, I wasn't like that when I was there.

00:05:17.800 And they go, no, it's true.

00:05:19.040 I wanted to ask you about how in your videos, in your sketches, I'm guessing people sort

00:05:26.520 of think they know what your views are just by based on your videos.

00:05:29.580 So either you're coming across how you really are in your videos, or you're just way more

00:05:33.700 clever than the rest of us and just exactly sort of know what people want to hear.

00:05:37.860 Do people tend to assume your views before they speak to you and when they meet you, is

00:05:42.180 it different or how does it go?

00:05:43.240 Well, it depends on what video too, right?

00:05:46.760 Because there's, you know, I do so much videos.

00:05:48.840 Yeah, you will get both, both different people of all different things.

00:05:54.840 If you make fun of their thing, they go, you know, all this guy's, but I feel like that's

00:05:59.200 dying down a little bit.

00:06:00.260 There was a moment where there was a real, real, you know, you got to pick a side and

00:06:06.080 you got to stand up and be on part of one of these teams.

00:06:08.900 So I think that when the mainstream was very, very, you know, very much like on one of those

00:06:18.420 teams, just saying like, hey, I'm not like participating, both these teams are lame.

00:06:23.700 Just saying that was, you know, an endorsement tacitly of the wrong team as far as like some

00:06:29.700 people were concerned.

00:06:31.220 So, and then, you know, and then some people start to like you and then once they like you,

00:06:35.200 they're like, yeah, but I want you to think all the things that I think.

00:06:38.080 So, I mean, at the end of the day, it's always going to keep changing.

00:06:40.820 Who's telling you what you can think and what you can say.

00:06:43.280 So, I mean, the trick is to try to be funny.

00:06:46.340 I think if you're a comedian.

00:06:48.220 Yeah.

00:06:48.580 And a lot of people are sort of thinking that now, I feel like that both sides are sort of

00:06:53.320 failing no matter how much you give them power, no matter how much support you give them.

00:06:57.820 And I think a lot of people are sort of waking up to this theory that we just vote in the

00:07:02.560 right people, you know?

00:07:04.480 Yeah.

00:07:04.740 I'm like a, yeah, that's, I mean, that's always like comedy is just like this tiny little

00:07:10.100 part of what's actually going on in the world.

00:07:12.200 So, it's like, I don't want to pretend that I'm doing something more important than it

00:07:15.320 is, but it is really, it's like, yeah, it's something that I feel like we were kind of

00:07:20.220 saying or me and my little crew of friends, we were saying like, you know, four or five

00:07:23.880 years ago and then, you know, kind of got popular doing it in America a year and a half,

00:07:28.060 two years ago or whatever.

00:07:28.820 Or you were, you're watching like everyone else say that and you're like, yeah, I mean,

00:07:32.140 this is the stuff that, you know, everyone was yelling at us for saying, and now everyone's

00:07:37.040 kind of like, yeah, both sides are bad. 0.99

00:07:38.640 And you're like, yeah, no shit. 0.98

00:07:39.960 Like you guys were all, I would say they're all, it's like a lot of people arguing over 0.99

00:07:44.100 who gets to be like the teacher of a class.

00:07:46.900 And you're kind of like, dude, it doesn't, who cares?

00:07:49.360 You know what I mean?

00:07:50.220 So, I think that a lot of people got really wrapped up in it.

00:07:54.720 And then now that, you know, the Trump era is over, people are like coming out of the

00:07:58.400 fog and going back to their like normal person, trying to be the normal person that they used 1.00

00:08:02.520 to be in there.

00:08:03.060 Everyone's like, yeah, we got a little carried away there.

00:08:06.800 I want to ask you, what kind of inspiration are you drawing from your sketches?

00:08:10.520 Are you just, are you and the guys just in the writing room all day?

00:08:13.320 Are we watching the CNN and the Foxes to get our, you know, talking points that you want

00:08:18.460 to make fun of?

00:08:21.040 I think, no, so I just write the sketches and I do one a week and then I do like a street

00:08:26.060 interview most weeks and I do a podcast every week and then I just stand up like at least

00:08:31.960 four or five nights a week.

00:08:33.220 So, I don't know, I try, I honestly just sit down and write like a lot.

00:08:37.960 So, a lot of times I'll get something in my head and then I can't get it out.

00:08:43.260 So, I just did another right left one that was making me laugh.

00:08:46.440 I did like a sponsor thing because if you look at the left wing sponsors, it'll all be

00:08:51.160 these like tiny podcasts and it'll be like, hey, brought to you by Netflix studios and

00:08:54.500 it'll be kind of like the communist hour brought to you by Amazon and they have these huge,

00:08:58.620 you know, it's like there's, there's these huge, super, you know, essentially like communist

00:09:03.680 streamers that are, you know, making these enormous deals with like ad deals with Microsoft

00:09:08.080 or whatever.

00:09:08.780 And then the right wing people, it's like these enormous podcasts that have, you know,

00:09:13.300 a million listeners and they're just like selling like bunker vitamins and like Patriot

00:09:18.120 water.

00:09:18.480 And it's like, it's just water for people who love America.

00:09:21.340 And coffee too.

00:09:23.580 Oh yeah, always.

00:09:24.800 It's a, you know, America first coffee.

00:09:26.560 And then, and then, uh, yeah, that was the black rifle thing too.

00:09:29.540 I remember we were doing, uh, then someone, then the coffee company, they'll denounce some

00:09:34.560 of the people and they have to be like, I just want to say that Patriot water does not

00:09:38.100 in fact support free speech.

00:09:39.620 You should burn your Patriot shoes.

00:09:41.780 So I don't know.

00:09:42.540 I just, you, that to me, like the difference between the right wing, left wing sponsors,

00:09:46.320 which was one thing that I just had in my head forever.

00:09:48.820 And then you kind of bump it around and then you start to write it and go, I don't know

00:09:51.620 if I have it yet.

00:09:52.340 So I have like a hundred ideas for sketches and then a bunch of ideas for, um, street interviews

00:09:57.540 of things I want to do.

00:09:58.480 And then a bunch of ideas for standup. 0.95

00:10:00.040 And I just try to actually do the work and get up and fucking write for way too long.

00:10:06.820 Is the video being relatively short on purpose, or do you just think that anything longer

00:10:12.440 is just going to not be as funny inherently?

00:10:16.340 I don't know.

00:10:16.920 Um, there's different, there's definitely different schools of thought on that.

00:10:20.900 Like there's, when I first started doing well on the internet, there was a million people

00:10:25.920 that had a lot of advice for me of like, no, this is the length that they have to be, this

00:10:29.840 is the dimension you have to put this on, you have to do that.

00:10:32.720 And I think that I've also been making videos since I was like 15 years old and the platforms

00:10:39.660 are always changing what they like, like even, and people's attention spans are always changing

00:10:44.460 and what gets pushed by YouTube is always changing.

00:10:46.920 I'm sure you guys like experienced that.

00:10:48.560 So I think that for me, I just try to, even with the comedy and the formatting, I try to

00:10:54.200 make what I would want to watch and what, so if it feels long to me, then I keep it short.

00:10:59.120 And if it feels short to me, then I, you know, I'm like, maybe this one, you know, didn't,

00:11:02.800 we didn't go deep enough into it.

00:11:04.180 So I try to stick with my own sensibilities because I feel like with most things, if you

00:11:08.720 leave your own sensibilities, then what are, then you're just kind of like grasping at

00:11:12.540 straws.

00:11:13.680 Yeah.

00:11:14.000 For a long time, it was, you got to get to that 10 minute mark so you can put more commercials

00:11:17.840 in it.

00:11:18.180 That's what everybody said.

00:11:19.360 First of all, Andrew, your videos need to be 10 minutes long so you can monetize it more.

00:11:23.640 That's what I used to hear all the time from the, uh, the, the network channel people,

00:11:28.580 whatever they were called.

00:11:29.340 I wanted to ask, um, you're talking about pushing shorts.

00:11:33.000 Yeah.

00:11:33.580 Yeah, exactly.

00:11:34.500 Like recently, recently they've been like, yeah, if it's under a minute, we'll push it

00:11:37.920 extra hard.

00:11:38.780 Yeah.

00:11:39.160 I find that on my own channel too.

00:11:40.840 Everything else shadow band, you put it under 30 seconds.

00:11:43.040 We're going to get you some views.

00:11:44.580 Um, what was I going to say?

00:11:46.500 Yeah.

00:11:46.820 You're, you talk about getting hate from both sides.

00:11:49.480 Is there anybody surprising that reached out to you, whether positively or negatively that

00:11:54.700 you wouldn't have expected?

00:11:57.100 Yeah.

00:11:57.640 Well, the negative ones, I try not to, uh, like talk about them too publicly.

00:12:01.880 Cause a part of me is like, that's giving it more a few times on my podcast.

00:12:07.060 I'll go, I'll get into, you know, feuds with people or whatever.

00:12:09.960 But for the most part, if it's something that like, I just try to ignore it.

00:12:14.140 But, um, as far as people reaching out, yeah, tons of people, there's like, I gotta, there's

00:12:19.520 a lot of like big, uh, like Hollywood people that I'll send like DMS being like, just so

00:12:23.820 you know, you know, you're saving, like all these crazy things.

00:12:26.500 Right.

00:12:26.880 So that's kind of cool.

00:12:28.640 Um, I want to take a deep dive with you into your past.

00:12:32.980 Having, uh, looked through your YouTube channel.

00:12:35.740 Oh, you know what?

00:12:36.420 Sorry to interrupt you again.

00:12:37.580 You know what, what's an interesting one is a lot of big musicians will be like, Hey,

00:12:42.560 love your stuff.

00:12:43.280 But I feel like if I post it, I'll get in trouble from the music community that I get

00:12:47.820 that a lot.

00:12:48.620 Cause a lot of like punk dudes and like metal guys like this, but they're like, Oh, your,

00:12:52.400 our community doesn't, you know, like when we haven't nuanced opinions rage against the

00:12:57.280 machine, I'm guessing.

00:12:59.320 Yeah.

00:12:59.720 Yeah.

00:12:59.960 Yeah.

00:13:00.540 Tom Morello is low key, a huge fan.

00:13:03.820 Lars and your DMS.

00:13:05.260 Whoa, man.

00:13:05.620 I really like what you're doing.

00:13:06.640 Um, the band you were in, speaking of bands, Ryan Long, the Johnstones.

00:13:13.000 Now, if I'm not correct, it's for you guys are from this area.

00:13:16.380 You had the wild hair, often almost nude.

00:13:21.100 And I wanted to ask, how did this transition into the Ryan Long of today?

00:13:25.000 Uh, you had the B-boy stuff, twilight videos.

00:13:28.460 I even saw one with Russell Oliver.

00:13:31.740 And then, uh, the funniest thing I think, and we'll play this after, um, over the top

00:13:36.940 is the purposely bad cover of Oasis on a talk show.

00:13:41.360 Oh my God.

00:13:42.580 That's one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

00:13:44.860 That's a deep cut.

00:13:46.600 That's like 15 years ago.

00:13:48.820 And rocky roads will lead to where I'm winding.

00:13:53.460 And all the lights that lead you there will blind you.

00:13:58.360 And there's a lot of things that I would like for you to know, should you know them too?

00:14:03.540 But how, did this like evolve into what, what it is now?

00:14:08.000 Cause you see a lot of the same, like, you know.

00:14:11.220 Yeah.

00:14:12.240 Yeah.

00:14:12.640 Yeah.

00:14:12.800 I was like, so yeah, we were, when I was like, you know, 1920, we were in this like kind of

00:14:17.600 popular Canadian band and we were, we were doing a ton of making these like jackass kind 0.77

00:14:22.900 of style videos and releasing all these DVDs and with a band had a podcast and we used to

00:14:28.680 do all this kind of wild stuff and release it and make these music videos.

00:14:31.940 And then we just used to do straight up comedy videos.

00:14:33.640 And then that kind of eventually led to this like cable access TV show that I was doing

00:14:37.700 on Rogers called crown the town.

00:14:39.220 And then I had a TV show called a bite at bite TV, which was like this small Canadian, 0.99

00:14:44.320 like comedy network called Ryan long is challenged.

00:14:46.760 And I was doing all that stuff.

00:14:47.920 And then around that time I started doing standup and then gradually kind of, I was mostly just

00:14:53.160 doing this stuff.

00:14:53.880 And then, then like the band just kind of, that was the end of that.

00:14:58.160 Yeah.

00:14:58.560 A lot of that stuff makes me think of like CKY back in the day.

00:15:02.460 That's what the vibe that I was getting.

00:15:04.700 I love that stuff.

00:15:05.880 I mean, I was, I really was the first thing, like I wasn't into comedians.

00:15:09.960 I really was into that, like messing with people on the street stuff, whether that be

00:15:13.960 like, you know, Jamie Kenny, Tom Green was like the hugest for, I think a lot of people

00:15:18.000 in my generation. 0.97

00:15:18.660 And then jackass, like Ali G show. 0.97

00:15:21.100 Like I was just, you know, whatever, like, even though it sounds a dorky to say, but like, 0.97

00:15:25.980 I felt like I was kind of like a student of that stuff.

00:15:27.920 Like I would watch everything.

00:15:29.160 I was trying to learn all the tricks and I was just so huge into that stuff.

00:15:32.940 It was like my favorite thing.

00:15:34.260 So then, um, yeah, I was, I was doing that in the TV shows and then I was doing sketches

00:15:38.880 at the hard times and CBC.

00:15:41.600 I did this like show called Trontopian.

00:15:43.180 And then I kind of, when I moved here, I was just said, okay, I'm going to do all this

00:15:47.820 stuff I've been doing for the last 10 years, kind of on my own channel.

00:15:50.920 And it kind of was like well-received in America.

00:15:52.980 A little bit more than well, Ryan, don't sell yourself short.

00:15:56.600 Why do you think there are so few people willing to do this type of comedy these days?

00:16:01.120 Do you, do you think it's an actual fear of, you know, being canceled?

00:16:04.880 Um, I I've seen some news channels try to do it.

00:16:07.520 Daily caller is one who tried to inject like sketches into their YouTube feed.

00:16:12.420 It didn't really work as far as I could see.

00:16:14.500 Why do you think people are actually still afraid to offend?

00:16:17.660 I mean, I always like that, that one, the obvious answer for like why people don't want

00:16:26.440 to do it is that the social ramifications are really high.

00:16:30.020 So especially if you're a network or whatever, it's, you know, the, they don't, these people

00:16:34.640 don't want to be getting in trouble.

00:16:36.600 They don't want to be getting letters right now.

00:16:37.900 And the same as, you know, there's always going to be someone that is the in charge of

00:16:42.100 what you can and can't say.

00:16:43.020 And I think the social ramifications of that are very, very high.

00:16:46.500 But the second part of it is a lot of, not everyone is kind of this like troublemaker

00:16:52.060 personality.

00:16:52.660 Right.

00:16:53.120 So I don't know if, I think that some people, they don't want, they definitely don't.

00:16:58.540 Like, I mean, I have a, I know a lot of people that they're like, oh, I want to kind of make

00:17:03.400 that stuff, but I'm afraid for the thing.

00:17:04.940 And I'm like, I'm promise you, you don't.

00:17:07.060 The, like there's, I'm like, I know these personalities and you don't want a bunch of

00:17:13.040 people yelling at you on the internet.

00:17:14.120 It's like uncomfortable.

00:17:15.020 And it's not like for everyone to be kind of constantly like trying to push buttons.

00:17:19.900 Like, I think that's a certain type of personality.

00:17:21.500 And right now I think it's the way the, the instinct of how to sort of be pushing those

00:17:28.440 like energy pockets is generally like, uh, thought, um, so it's like kind of in the thought

00:17:35.160 realm, but it always changes.

00:17:36.900 I mean, there's always going to be like, you know, deconstructionalist comedy at some

00:17:40.340 point was pushing boundaries that, you know, making fun of the church at some point was

00:17:44.240 pushing boundaries.

00:17:44.900 And I think that not everyone's that person.

00:17:46.780 So I think the best people that are the best at what they do are able to like kind of pair

00:17:51.720 their personality with what also is like connecting with people to find like, you know, something

00:17:57.920 that they find funny and they actually suits like what they actually think as opposed to

00:18:02.820 there probably is people right now.

00:18:04.280 They're like, Oh, let me try to be, you know, subversive just for the sake of it.

00:18:08.160 But maybe it doesn't even really suit them.

00:18:09.520 As my brother would say, some people take the nice, clean highway.

00:18:13.740 Other people's take the dirt road.

00:18:15.800 What do you think is the logical progression past like political correctness and cancel

00:18:20.400 culture?

00:18:20.760 There's so many comedians, actors, actresses saying we need to stop cancel culture.

00:18:25.400 Nothing has really changed.

00:18:26.780 I think to a degree, like you said, after Trump, people have stopped caring as much a little

00:18:31.020 bit.

00:18:31.380 But what do you think the natural progression is in the next couple of years?

00:18:35.100 Yeah.

00:18:35.560 So my prediction, like when I was about five, four, I would say this three or four years

00:18:40.340 ago, I felt like I was already moving away from this stuff.

00:18:43.200 And I was kind of more talking about men and women and race and in a, in a, in a, like

00:18:48.120 not in, not in relation to, you know, the culture stuff.

00:18:51.680 Right.

00:18:51.920 Um, I think in COVID, it kind of bubbled back up and took it back about two years.

00:18:56.480 So I feel like now we're kind of back to where we were three years ago in a lot of

00:19:01.400 ways.

00:19:01.800 But in my opinion, what I don't, I don't see this, uh, I see it more as the mainstream

00:19:08.240 is sort of going to, going to keep doing what it's going to do.

00:19:12.740 And the counterculture and like, I think is growing.

00:19:15.840 I mean, there's so many people that are kind of doing their own thing outside of these

00:19:20.340 kind of machines.

00:19:21.420 And I think that that like decentralization of art and decentralization of comedy and

00:19:27.040 music probably continues to happen.

00:19:29.500 And it's happened always.

00:19:30.620 I mean, if you look at for a while, forever ago, there was, you know, all these labels

00:19:34.780 kind of missed rap and everything like that.

00:19:36.560 And then, you know, there's a lot of rappers that are billionaires now because of that.

00:19:40.100 So I think that the stakes are still pretty high for, for, uh, places to take big chances

00:19:46.000 on anything that's going to cause, you know, real repercussions and you keep seeing them do

00:19:50.000 it.

00:19:50.140 Whereas like a lot of places will be like, Oh, we'll take a chance on this guy.

00:19:53.200 And then it's like, Oh, well, here's some tweets he's fired.

00:19:55.460 And, and then all of a sudden, you know, the amount of money and press that, so I think

00:19:59.180 the ramifications for, they're kind of stuck in a rock and a hard place.

00:20:02.500 So I kind of think it is like the mainstream is like falling apart a little bit, you know,

00:20:09.100 places, the big comedy networks, they're unable to star make, they're not having big hits.

00:20:13.540 So I think that it's, could be a positive or a negative, depending on how you look at

00:20:18.380 it.

00:20:18.480 And in a lot of ways, it's a positive because there's a lot of people that were able to

00:20:22.400 sort of like create their own thing.

00:20:23.860 And everyone's like making money and, uh, you know, having their little pockets of energy

00:20:29.020 that the industry doesn't control.

00:20:31.020 And then on top of that, because of the industry is not getting involved too soon, people actually

00:20:35.540 have the right amount of time to marinate and be kind of create their movements without,

00:20:40.220 uh, getting big buckets of money thrown at them that are ruining what they were doing.

00:20:44.480 So it could be, so people, a lot of people say it's like bad for comedy, but you know,

00:20:48.940 it's bad for mainstream comedy.

00:20:50.560 Like if it's bad for probably what's on TV and maybe it's bad for the comedy that's being

00:20:54.380 made in movies, but this it's, it's like right now it's like, you might not see metal

00:20:58.620 on the radio, but if you're into metal, there's a lot of good metal.

00:21:00.760 So I think there's lots of stuff if you actually, that it could be better for art if you're

00:21:04.820 actually into it, that it's decentralized and artists have like more power rather than

00:21:09.060 less.

00:21:10.300 Well, I think that what you're talking about is what happened to, what's the comedian's

00:21:12.900 name who got kicked off of SNL in his first week?

00:21:16.400 Shane?

00:21:17.400 Yeah.

00:21:18.400 Shane Gillis.

00:21:19.400 And, uh, he talks about now how they looked at all his stuff and they're like, no, don't

00:21:23.200 worry.

00:21:24.200 We like how edgy you are.

00:21:25.320 And then the first week, like everybody knows you got fired for a podcast.

00:21:29.360 So I think it is a good idea.

00:21:30.360 Yeah.

00:21:31.360 Podcast is how you get fired.

00:21:32.360 Podcast is the number one way to get fired.

00:21:33.360 If you want to get fired from your job, start a podcast.

00:21:36.360 Not good news for me then.

00:21:38.600 Yeah.

00:21:39.600 No, but I don't know.

00:21:40.600 Yeah, exactly.

00:21:41.600 But at the same time, like he's doing well, it's like, you have to remember like those

00:21:44.700 jobs, it's like people's brains are still stuck in like, Oh, I want to be on SNL.

00:21:49.600 It's like, dude, I don't want to drive to midtown Manhattan to like work some like jobs.

00:21:55.060 Like we're like touring around, selling out places and I'm running my little company and

00:21:59.220 making videos and we're, we're doing really well.

00:22:01.540 And it's, it may be more stressful, but I like running my own thing anyway.

00:22:04.840 I think better.

00:22:05.720 It's, and also I'm in my thirties, like that's a better 25 year old job.

00:22:09.560 So I think, but it, to me, I didn't move to America to be like, Oh, let me try to get

00:22:15.260 like an industry job.

00:22:16.000 I kind of moved here because I was like, Oh, I could do my own thing here and actually make

00:22:19.700 it work.

00:22:19.980 So I kind of thought that was cooler.

00:22:21.600 Like the last, if I was getting offers about that, it'd be like stressful.

00:22:24.980 Cause I'm like, Oh, like, especially if someone offers you like a ton of money, you're just 0.98

00:22:28.760 like, do I have to take this fucking job? 0.93

00:22:31.120 Well, that's what I want to ask you, is there, is there a talk, a Ryan long talk show coming 0.99

00:22:37.080 up?

00:22:37.280 Are we ever going to see you attached to a big network?

00:22:41.340 I don't know, man.

00:22:42.180 I think that everything changes, but being doing like wild stuff is like a young person's 0.54

00:22:49.000 game.

00:22:49.540 Even the, you know, you were, we were talking about CKY and, and, you know, Tom Green,

00:22:53.540 all that stuff.

00:22:54.260 I, even the, I used to do a lot of that stuff when we, you know, the stuff you were talking

00:22:57.740 about when I was in my twenties, like I'm not, I can't do that.

00:23:00.760 Wild stuff anymore.

00:23:01.700 I think now my troublemaking comes probably more verbally, you know, but so I think that,

00:23:08.260 yeah, who knows what the industry looks like, you know, think about how much things have

00:23:12.900 changed.

00:23:13.540 You know, the fact that like Netflix is a, you know, the primary place people watch television

00:23:17.780 or whatever, right.

00:23:18.380 That didn't exist.

00:23:19.320 What?

00:23:19.520 10 years ago.

00:23:20.360 So to predict, you know, the idea of what the, for the decentralization that's already

00:23:26.780 like rapidly happening and the industry's losing its power at the time.

00:23:30.760 That, you know, decentralization everywhere is happening so rapidly at the internet's

00:23:34.920 growing.

00:23:35.440 So I think that to, to just, to look at it and be like, what's it going to look like

00:23:39.160 in 20 years?

00:23:40.120 I mean, even five years ago, if you looked at it and you go, Hey, do you know that like

00:23:43.200 internet dudes, like Logan Paul are making as much money as like George Clooney.

00:23:46.640 You'd be like, what?

00:23:47.660 Like you go, yeah, some dude's YouTube channel.

00:23:50.320 He's as rich as, you know, Meg Ryan.

00:23:52.480 And you go, what, what, what's going on right now?

00:23:55.040 Mr. Beast, some dude, you know, making weird videos on the internet.

00:23:58.800 He's making as much as movie stars.

00:24:00.320 So, and potentially as, as relevant or more relevant if you're, you know, a 16 year old.

00:24:06.160 So it's hard to look at any of this and understand where it's going to be in 10 years, maybe doing

00:24:11.020 like VR comedy.

00:24:12.200 In the metaverse instead of, yeah, dude, I'm just in the metaverse.

00:24:17.880 You're still bombing, you're bombing in the metaverse with a, with a helmet on and some crappy open mic in

00:24:23.800 the metaverse because, you know, you got kicked off of every platform.

00:24:27.640 I want the metaverse to be more like demolition, man.

00:24:31.900 Yeah.

00:24:33.240 What's the ideal metaverse for you?

00:24:35.940 What's the ideal metaverse for me?

00:24:37.900 Uh, something with Sylvester Stallone and Wesley Snipes where Taco Bell is the only, I think

00:24:42.820 that's demolition man's plot.

00:24:44.640 That's the only option.

00:24:45.680 Yeah.

00:24:46.480 I'm okay with Taco Bell being the only option personally.

00:24:50.080 Well, that means, uh, KFC will be there too.

00:24:52.240 Cause they're always attached.

00:24:53.320 Right.

00:24:53.680 That's a two for, that's a two for one these days.

00:24:57.000 Yeah.

00:24:57.440 I'm going to get way off topic here.

00:25:00.000 The metaverse stuff, but it is true.

00:25:02.640 It's, you know, there's, there's put it this way.

00:25:05.280 I don't think that if, if you could say that, uh, every comedian kind of have to had their

00:25:10.620 own little radio show, it's just like kind of what the situation is now.

00:25:13.940 I remember my body was like, yeah, I'm starting a podcast.

00:25:16.480 I guess everyone has one.

00:25:17.460 And you're like, like the way he was saying, it was kind of like that.

00:25:19.960 Right.

00:25:20.240 And I was like, yeah, you're right.

00:25:21.780 That's correct.

00:25:22.600 Everyone has one.

00:25:23.320 That's like part of the deal.

00:25:24.300 If you want to be a comedian that does, you know, unless you get book, get lucky and

00:25:29.140 booked some huge role for whatever reason on some series and you just get like gifted

00:25:33.040 a like sweet gig for the next five years.

00:25:35.600 You're like, yeah, you're right.

00:25:36.640 You do have to have a podcast.

00:25:37.560 That's kind of like how this works.

00:25:38.820 Now you have to have, you know, the days of like the tortured artists that you're just

00:25:43.800 like, uh, I don't even want to make stuff.

00:25:45.500 I guess I just, whatever.

00:25:46.940 I'm just a super talent.

00:25:48.060 So it's very hard to act like you don't care and be the apathetic artist when you also

00:25:54.200 have to have employees.

00:25:55.840 It'd be like posting on a schedule and show up, have a podcast and book guests.

00:26:00.680 And you know what I mean?

00:26:01.780 Uh, promote your tours properly and actually run a proper business.

00:26:04.980 So it, it, it forces everyone to just admit like, yeah, I know we are trying hard.

00:26:10.000 Like there's no way to do this without, without trying.

00:26:12.860 So you can't be like, I don't know, man.

00:26:14.600 I just get up on stage and say stuff.

00:26:16.220 It's like, no, you kind of have to do this.

00:26:18.600 So, you know, not to say that you couldn't get popular without a podcast, but it's definitely

00:26:23.580 a big component of if you're a fan of someone, you're like, yeah, I want to go listen to what

00:26:27.400 they have to say in a long form.

00:26:29.120 And are they actually funny in that format?

00:26:31.740 I feel like there is a lot of us who've been traveling on this path silently.

00:26:36.940 Cause a lot of the stuff you say is exactly what my life has been like up until working

00:26:42.260 here.

00:26:42.640 And, and I recognize that in a lot of the other people that I interviewed too, whether

00:26:46.740 it's like Elijah from slightly offensive, for example, or, you know, maybe somebody

00:26:51.680 younger than me, like a guy named like John Doyle, it's just sort of starting on your own,

00:26:56.460 doing your own thing, and then hoping you build enough momentum and viewership to actually

00:27:00.240 get somewhere.

00:27:01.580 Or, and I think the ultimate goal is to be where you are, where it's completely independent.

00:27:05.540 And then, you know, you can make video about whatever you want.

00:27:09.000 Cause there's always, you know, the person in your ear when you're at some big network.

00:27:14.280 Yeah.

00:27:14.660 Yeah.

00:27:14.960 And, and they have moved very slow too.

00:27:17.040 I mean, the, obviously the actual threat is the being removed from YouTube and stuff

00:27:21.160 like that.

00:27:21.380 But dude, when I was doing videos at the CBC, we would do a video and I would like, you

00:27:26.700 know, I would do these eight scripts and you'd kind of give them the scripts and stuff like

00:27:29.320 that.

00:27:29.480 And this is other places too, not just there, but I've, you know, I've been making videos

00:27:33.440 forever.

00:27:33.760 Right.

00:27:34.080 So you'd give them these scripts and sometimes the notes would take like two, three months

00:27:37.080 by the time you're shooting it.

00:27:38.060 I remember editing a video.

00:27:40.380 And then by the time I, and then by the time we got all the notes, it was like a month and

00:27:44.960 a half later.

00:27:45.440 And then watching the video and I'm like, it feels slow now because I, this is just, maybe

00:27:50.120 I'm like being crazy, but in my mind that month and a half, like the internet sped up.

00:27:56.440 And I think that was the era where everyone was starting to do crash zooms way more and stuff

00:27:59.880 like that.

00:28:00.280 And I really felt like in the couple months that we had people giving notes on the edits

00:28:05.760 by the time I got those notes back, that the video felt slow because the like pace of the

00:28:09.980 internet at that moment felt weird the same way that, you know, you can't do talk about

00:28:14.400 current things.

00:28:15.040 And then three months later, you kind of hear that, that bit and you go, ah, this just doesn't

00:28:19.040 feel on the pulse anymore.

00:28:20.000 So I think that being, just the being able to move very quickly.

00:28:23.480 So I have like a little team of employees that I kind of, you know, we meet on Monday

00:28:28.420 and we figure out what we're doing.

00:28:29.600 And, and then I were like, okay, what are we shooting this week?

00:28:31.740 Who's doing the podcast?

00:28:32.960 And we have a schedule and I just run the little business and try to keep your head down and

00:28:37.560 not get too caught up doing the wrong things.

00:28:40.400 It's your own SNL essentially.

00:28:43.620 Like, yeah, I mean, you know, obviously there's still a legacy program, but even when you think

00:28:49.060 of that, it's like, people talk about these shows with such reverence.

00:28:53.200 It's, you know, it's like in Canada, what's like the Royal Canadian Air Force is, that's

00:28:57.440 the show, right?

00:28:57.940 Or this hour is 22 minutes.

00:28:59.060 Like, I don't think people have that reverence for those shows.

00:29:01.500 Like you wouldn't be like, oh man, this hour is 22 minutes, but SNL, you're like, yeah,

00:29:05.840 it's just some old sketch show for, you know, for whatever, for 55 year old ladies that 1.00

00:29:12.000 live on the Upper West Side to watch.

00:29:13.660 And you go and everyone's like, they're the gold standard because they used to be good.

00:29:18.220 It's like, yeah, they have the odd sketch that's fine, but it's like, why are they

00:29:21.360 this like gold standard?

00:29:23.080 Like I would never, when I'm looking at people online and being like, who's jokes, who's

00:29:27.680 at the forefront of this, who's sketches, I go, you know, they're this legacy thing

00:29:31.220 that still exists and they're like a money machine.

00:29:32.940 So it's not going to close down, but I'm not looking at them to be like, oh, am I beating

00:29:38.080 them?

00:29:38.480 I'm like looking at them to be like, if I'm doing the same thing as them, like, oh, am I

00:29:42.820 making comedy for like 50 year old ladies? 0.63

00:29:46.160 I think he might be.

00:29:48.040 That's how I see it.

00:29:49.100 Yeah.

00:29:49.800 I don't know.

00:29:50.220 So I don't, I just don't have the reverence for those.

00:29:52.040 So I don't really see them as like direct competition.

00:29:54.300 I see that as just like a different thing.

00:29:55.940 It's kind of like looking at the Foo Fighters.

00:29:57.400 Like if you look at a new band, you're not kind of like, well, are they as good as the

00:30:01.620 Foo Fighters?

00:30:02.440 Like it's all, why is everyone being compared to the Foo Fighters?

00:30:05.500 It's they're not right.

00:30:06.320 But in, in comedy, everyone always talks about SNL.

00:30:08.760 Like, like, I don't, I don't even think of it until people message you and be like, oh, SNL did

00:30:14.000 some version of a sketch you did a year and a half ago.

00:30:16.420 You know what I mean?

00:30:17.500 That's like the only time you kind of even like think about them.

00:30:19.860 I'm not watching that program.

00:30:21.000 Who's watching that? 1.00

00:30:21.960 Most of the stuff now, like SNL or even CNN is based on stupid stuff they put out and 0.99

00:30:28.740 people want to comment on that. 0.94

00:30:30.000 Maybe that's the new target for these programs. 0.96

00:30:33.260 Let's make something so ridiculous or unfunny and obscene. 0.84

00:30:38.220 That way it's going to get picked up from all these, you know, baiting right wingers, 0.97

00:30:42.740 I guess.

00:30:44.120 That's my metaverse.

00:30:46.220 No, you are right.

00:30:47.560 There is some of this stuff.

00:30:49.200 It's this sort of what the advertising companies do where they're just like, hey, like your 0.91

00:30:53.760 favorite toy is gay now. 1.00

00:30:55.480 Right. 0.99

00:30:55.740 What do you think of that?

00:30:56.600 Like, it's just like F you conservative.

00:30:58.780 I think that's a sketch right there.

00:31:00.160 That is what they that is like legitimately I did do kind of an advertising sketch that

00:31:05.480 is kind of similar to that, but not with the toys.

00:31:08.460 But it is there is to some degree that is the same way that it's like this loop of people

00:31:14.520 getting pressed by trying to make people mad and they'll be like the rights triggered

00:31:17.980 and then the right will be like you're actually you're triggered and then everyone's calling

00:31:20.680 everyone triggered and I guess their product gets more clicks, but I don't think it's

00:31:27.940 the right kind of clicks because I've even known people in advertising.

00:31:32.160 It's kind of like, you know, you know, a lot of businesses become convoluted when lawyers

00:31:39.520 get too involved and I don't know if it necessarily makes like it more efficient or just the lawyers

00:31:43.300 make a lot of money.

00:31:44.420 There's kind of that in advertising where they hire these like 20 year old ad firms and

00:31:47.980 they're like, hey, we need to do these, you know, kind of progressive ad campaigns

00:31:51.660 that kind of just, you know, get dunked on, but they also, you know, cause a stir and

00:31:57.360 then they go and go, look, your video has 3 million views.

00:32:00.400 Yes, it made these bad people mad, but all the good people will buy your product.

00:32:04.480 And I go, I don't think any of this has a, I think it's just for ad companies to be able

00:32:08.920 to go and be like, look, look how we perform.

00:32:10.880 Look at their metrics.

00:32:12.400 But I don't think it did anything.

00:32:13.760 Advertisement people just love patting themselves on the back for like a campaign that got a lot

00:32:17.500 of views so that they can go, they can go to their, they go fleece their next company

00:32:23.120 for, it's going to be a million dollars.

00:32:24.980 We go, look at how many clicks we got on our ad about how, you know, little mermaids trans. 0.62

00:32:30.700 Well, when I was doing a lot of like a commercial writing and writing for ads before I got political,

00:32:36.680 a lot of it, you're exactly right.

00:32:38.980 It's just like, I feel like it's a circular motion of money.

00:32:42.220 Like we have this much money for an ad campaign.

00:32:44.320 Let's put it towards this magazine.

00:32:46.020 Who's going to pay this much.

00:32:47.480 Then look how much reach they have, you guys.

00:32:49.840 So they're going to sell that ad to the next person.

00:32:51.780 It's just this revolving door of like $30,000 campaigns.

00:32:55.160 And it was really, really strange.

00:32:57.080 Like nobody's reading this, but somehow they're paying $30,000.

00:33:00.180 I don't know what's going on here.

00:33:02.080 No, it really is a, it's one of the biggest scams going on, especially we used to do some

00:33:06.280 of this stuff back in the day, but it was like, dude, there's some places where they just,

00:33:10.480 they straight up their whole business model is they make videos and then pay for

00:33:15.900 the, the, like to boost the video.

00:33:19.300 So it gets clicks, but they've figured out how to, you know, if they, every thousand

00:33:23.640 views, they get, you know, a hundred dollars from the ad company and it only costs them

00:33:27.920 $80 that they just pump that forever.

00:33:29.940 And their whole model is essentially forcing people to watch this thing.

00:33:33.700 And then, you know, taking the spread from the ad companies.

00:33:37.500 And it's like, it's just a corny business model all around.

00:33:41.140 And it's like kind of a, I don't know, it's an industry that is really based on patting

00:33:46.400 itself on the back.

00:33:47.100 And then when the, in the 2000 post 2015 era, when, you know, the trick was just, oh, say

00:33:53.680 something that will, uh, you know, piss people off.

00:33:57.140 I think that that just became the, the like golden ticket for these places to like print

00:34:02.460 capital.

00:34:03.360 And if you're on the right side of it, it's like, you know, who cares if you piss people

00:34:07.360 off, I guess.

00:34:08.960 I want to do one more quick segment behind the paywall.

00:34:12.300 So we'll say goodbye to the free audience on YouTube and rumble and everywhere else.

00:34:16.100 If you guys want to get the last segment, we're going to talk about lockdowns, rebelnewsplus.com

00:34:20.620 subscribe right now or else Ryan will find you.

00:34:24.700 Oh, let me tell you about my show though.

00:34:25.880 Oh, right, right, right.

00:34:26.980 Yeah.

00:34:27.200 Before we don't cut away December.

00:34:31.060 When's this coming out?

00:34:31.980 Is this coming out like tomorrow?

00:34:33.060 This will come out the day before your first show.

00:34:36.360 Oh, okay.

00:34:37.120 I mean then, okay.

00:34:38.600 Nevermind.

00:34:39.160 It'll be sold out.

00:34:42.260 We'll clip it before then, Ryan, go ahead.

00:34:45.880 Okay.

00:34:46.320 Yeah.

00:34:46.500 Yeah.

00:34:46.620 Well, there's like, right now we, we did a show on the 17th and then at the Royal

00:34:50.680 theater.

00:34:51.100 So we sold that out.

00:34:51.940 So we added another show on the 16th that, um, pretty recently that there's still,

00:34:55.860 like a few tickets left.

00:34:56.980 So Ryan long, uh, comedy.com is where you get tickets for that in Toronto.

00:35:01.340 Very enthusiastic promo.

00:35:03.400 Hello, paywall people.

00:35:05.900 Um, I want to ask you, Ryan, have you, do you pay attention to any of this anti lockdown

00:35:10.560 stuff here in Canada where you're from and remind you people from Canada that he's around,

00:35:15.460 I think you're from Toronto or Ajax around that area.

00:35:18.700 Ajax.

00:35:19.900 Yeah.

00:35:20.360 Yeah.

00:35:20.520 What up Durham region?

00:35:22.720 Woo.

00:35:23.360 I mean, I was watching the Adamson's barbecue thing, but you know, it's kind of what I was

00:35:30.280 saying before where I'm always, listen, like, I don't think that the lockdowns were, uh,

00:35:38.240 I thought, obviously I, I'm not like the safest person in the world.

00:35:42.640 So I'm, if I was in charge, I don't think that I would, uh, like the way that the lockdowns

00:35:47.840 are done.

00:35:48.120 I wouldn't have done it like that.

00:35:49.060 I think it was overkill.

00:35:50.560 And I think that it's probably better the way that a lot of places in America did it

00:35:54.160 than Canada.

00:35:55.780 Um, but that being said, I'm always sort of a proponent of like, um, I feel like you

00:36:00.880 can still win.

00:36:01.800 So there's a part of like, for example, when New York got really bad, I moved, you know,

00:36:06.500 there's, you can complain about it online, but you can also move.

00:36:09.720 So I moved to Miami where it was more open, you know, you don't have to follow all the

00:36:13.840 rules.

00:36:14.320 So it's like, to me, there was, there's always a way that I think that you can make, you

00:36:19.480 know, you can still win in the world.

00:36:21.000 You're not always going to be able to, it's, you know, whatever, I guess, stand up for what

00:36:25.120 you believe in, but you're not always going to be able to, um, change the world.

00:36:28.880 So sometimes you have to just change yourself within the world.

00:36:32.400 Have you paid attention to, have you paid attention to any of the lockdown characters?

00:36:37.220 You mentioned Adamson barbecue, are you, are you seeing any of these guys?

00:36:41.240 Chris guy.

00:36:42.240 Who's the other guy?

00:36:43.160 Yeah.

00:36:43.480 Yeah.

00:36:43.740 Yeah.

00:36:43.960 I always see six buzz posting that guy.

00:36:47.420 He's wild.

00:36:48.840 I have an interview with him.

00:36:50.640 Uh, I think everybody's seen at this point where he makes all these predictions about what's

00:36:54.920 going to happen.

00:36:55.440 And, and he's in his tank top that barely fits his tattoos, his veneers.

00:37:00.680 Yeah.

00:37:01.280 It's, it's really an exciting thing to see.

00:37:03.340 So what do you think is coming up?

00:37:04.880 Go ahead.

00:37:06.140 I saw one recently, uh, that they posted with him where he had like a rally, I guess, like

00:37:11.740 an anti lockdown rally.

00:37:13.040 And then people were kind of like partying at the rally.

00:37:15.460 And then he got mad at them.

00:37:16.600 He was like, well, you guys are, you guys are partying and drinking.

00:37:20.120 This is serious business or whatever.

00:37:21.920 Right.

00:37:22.080 Did you see that one?

00:37:23.360 Yeah.

00:37:23.780 And he's yelling at his support, at all of his supporters.

00:37:26.680 It's like family and children there.

00:37:28.240 You guys brought a musical guest.

00:37:30.580 Yeah.

00:37:31.080 That guy's been on a wild ride.

00:37:32.500 Yeah.

00:37:33.280 But, uh, reality.

00:37:34.360 Yeah, man.

00:37:34.700 I'll tell you, I like, I, I know it's easy.

00:37:36.940 Like people always say that it's like kind of easier said than done.

00:37:40.820 And it is.

00:37:42.420 But honestly, if I, if I was probably there for all this stuff, I think that I would leave.

00:37:48.400 I know people have like families and all that stuff, but.

00:37:52.080 Yeah.

00:37:52.560 It's a, it's like a bad situation, uh, to be. 0.99

00:37:55.820 But then on the other side, I know a lot of people that don't give a shit. 0.98

00:38:01.160 Cause they're like, yeah, I get free money and then I'm working some other jobs. 0.99

00:38:03.960 So I'm like richer than I ever had been.

00:38:06.440 I'm literally getting an extra, whatever, 25 grand a year.

00:38:09.340 Then I'm working my like under table job that I don't even have to go into the office for

00:38:13.280 or go, you know, working from home or whatever.

00:38:15.560 So I think some people are just like, uh, it's, it's, you know, it's obviously like

00:38:23.780 somewhat popular because people, you know, you put them in a position where like, Hey,

00:38:27.560 we're going to give you tons of money to not work.

00:38:29.480 Like, and then, and they're like, Hey, do you think, want to go back to work?

00:38:32.180 And everyone's like, actually, I just thought of it.

00:38:34.560 And I'm like really worried about COVID all of a sudden.

00:38:38.380 All right.

00:38:38.900 Right.

00:38:39.180 I think now that I, yeah.

00:38:40.500 Yeah.

00:38:40.680 Now that I think about it, I'm very worried about COVID after I got my chip.

00:38:44.900 And they said they were going to go after everybody for that.

00:38:47.280 And they never did.

00:38:47.940 There was something like 600,000 people, um, that weren't eligible that they just pushed

00:38:53.740 them all through because the system was failing and they just never went after them.

00:38:58.720 Oh yeah.

00:38:59.320 I think that, that, that, I think that, uh, it was pretty, uh, wishy-washy, like who was

00:39:06.340 getting what, and they're not going to be doing a very good job of keeping track of it.

00:39:09.700 No.

00:39:10.060 I mean, the Canadian government is pretty, Canadian government is pretty bad at like

00:39:14.320 getting people to pay.

00:39:15.020 Like they don't, the IRS doesn't mess around.

00:39:17.440 No.

00:39:17.560 Like the Canadian government is very, uh, like they just give you a, if you get caught, like

00:39:22.900 cheating on your taxes, they go like, all right, come on.

00:39:25.200 We, we got you pay up.

00:39:26.680 They just kind of like, you're not going to jail.

00:39:30.060 They just make you pay it.

00:39:31.820 It's decentralized.

00:39:32.620 It's like Antifa.

00:39:33.720 I believe this is what they'll tell you.

00:39:35.380 Uh, I think we're out of time here, Ryan.

00:39:37.460 I appreciate you coming on.

00:39:39.180 Um, we'll, we'll tell everybody to push your shows.

00:39:43.400 Thank you, buddy.

00:39:44.120 Yeah.

00:39:44.340 Yeah.

00:39:44.580 I appreciate you guys having me on.

00:39:46.000 So it was very cool.

00:39:46.880 And yeah, um, if you do want to come, like, let me know just, uh, how many tickets you

00:39:49.760 want for what show.

00:39:50.840 Oh, sweet.

00:39:51.580 I was talking about interviewing, but I'll probably take you up on this offer.

00:39:55.120 Interviewing what?

00:39:56.600 Interviewing you backstage.

00:39:58.080 I don't know.

00:39:59.120 Oh yeah, that's fine.

00:40:00.280 Yeah.

00:40:00.740 Yeah.

00:40:00.900 Yeah.

00:40:01.060 Just hit me up.

00:40:02.140 All right.

00:40:02.500 Very cool.

00:40:03.320 Thank you.

00:40:03.740 Good, sir.

00:40:04.160 I'll talk to you in the near future.

00:40:05.840 Have a good night.

00:40:06.380 All right.

00:40:07.820 Peace, buddy.

Rebel News Podcast - December 17, 2021

ANDREW CHAPADOS ｜ The Evolution of Ryan Long

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