Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ I’m shocked but not surprised — the Media Party thinks David Menzies deserved to be beat up

00:00:00.720 Hello, my rebels. Today, I'm going to take you through some of the reaction to our terrible

00:00:05.860 news yesterday that David Menzies was beat up by the prime minister's bodyguards. In

00:00:10.880 particular, I'm going to look at the reaction from two media party journalists who actually

00:00:15.620 not only blamed David Menzies, but claimed he liked it. He wanted it. He planned it. This

00:00:22.940 is part of his, I don't know, what he does gets beat up. It's so gross. It's blaming

00:00:29.660 the victim. And I think there's some bizarre psychology at play. I'll take you through

00:00:33.580 it. Before I do, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. That's the

00:00:38.380 video version of the show. It's essential for this story so you can see what David did and

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00:00:53.080 right, here's today's show.

00:00:59.660 Tonight, I'm shocked but not surprised. The media party thinks David Menzies deserved to

00:01:14.180 be beat up. It's December 17th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:18.000 Yesterday, I showed you a videotape of our colleague David Menzies being beat up by Justin Trudeau's

00:01:46.380 personal bodyguards. It was completely unjustified and completely unprovoked. David was standing on a

00:01:53.060 public sidewalk, clearly identified as a journalist. He had his microphone out with the little mic flash

00:01:59.760 that said Rebel News on it. He was accompanied by Lincoln Jay, a young journalist who had a video

00:02:05.560 camera. This was all completely normal, and in fact, David was chatting with the police in a cordial

00:02:11.780 enough way. He had been waiting for about an hour for Trudeau to show up, so everyone knew exactly

00:02:18.380 who he was and what he was doing. He didn't suddenly arrive or anything. Here, I won't show you the whole

00:02:23.900 interaction, but just to recap.

00:02:27.560 The Justin Trudeau Liberals, ma'am, they're telling Canadians not to get together for Christmas Day,

00:02:33.640 right? It's too dangerous with the new variant. And yet, here they are packing in, like you said,

00:02:39.340 30 to 50 people. Is it one law for thee and one law for me?

00:02:43.700 Um, I have no comment on that. I don't even know.

00:02:46.760 Excuse me, ma'am. When's Prime Minister Trudeau showing up?

00:02:49.940 I'm not sure.

00:02:51.460 Why is he always late?

00:02:53.000 I'm not sure.

00:02:53.600 No?

00:02:54.200 Okay.

00:02:55.100 Hey, sir, where's Prime Minister Trudeau tonight?

00:02:57.920 Why is he always late?

00:03:00.800 Merry Christmas.

00:03:01.680 Merry Christmas.

00:03:01.860 Hey, how you doing there? Hey, how are you?

00:03:24.780 Good, guys.

00:03:26.500 Roll now.

00:03:54.960 Okay, that must be that.

00:04:02.380 Get out of the road.

00:04:03.480 Get out of the road.

00:04:04.500 Huh?

00:04:05.420 Look around.

00:04:06.260 I hit my car.

00:04:07.080 Huh? Yeah.

00:04:08.040 You'd like to see that.

00:04:09.320 I wouldn't like to see that at all.

00:04:12.140 It needs a lot of paperwork for me.

00:04:13.740 Yeah.

00:04:16.820 Stay back.

00:04:17.980 Stay back.

00:04:19.980 Stay back.

00:04:20.920 Stay back.

00:04:21.500 What are you doing?

00:04:22.340 Get off me. 0.85

00:04:23.600 Hey, I can.

00:04:26.680 Hey, this is assault.

00:04:27.980 Move.

00:04:28.560 I'm on a side.

00:04:29.700 What is this?

00:04:31.020 I'm on a sidewalk.

00:04:35.060 I am on a sidewalk.

00:04:37.200 What is this?

00:04:38.080 You cannot touch me.

00:04:39.900 Not rushing and working.

00:04:41.700 Hey.

00:04:43.940 Are you kidding?

00:04:46.640 Are you kidding?

00:04:48.260 Let's go of me.

00:04:50.420 What is this?

00:04:52.840 You can't.

00:04:53.720 Am I under arrest?

00:04:55.380 Am I under arrest?

00:04:57.680 Am I under arrest?

00:04:59.280 Because otherwise, you have no right.

00:05:00.940 You can't touch me.

00:05:02.100 Oh shit.

00:05:05.800 I'm mono.

00:05:08.160 Are you kidding?

00:05:09.240 I'm in your shirt now.

00:05:13.060 I'm in your shirt.

00:05:18.740 Get off of me.

00:05:23.460 Guys.

00:05:24.080 Relax.

00:05:24.320 Get off me. 0.85

00:05:25.240 Get off of me.

00:05:26.220 Go.

00:05:26.920 och.

00:05:27.440 Go.

00:05:28.060 completely unprovoked, shocking, brutal, absolutely surreal, but too real, wasn't it?

00:05:35.980 So I showed you that yesterday, and I showed you how this was preceded by five years of Justin

00:05:42.660 Trudeau and his staff demonizing Rebel News, saying that we were less than we are, saying we

00:05:48.900 aren't real journalists, banning us from public places, and even treating us as less than citizens.

00:05:54.680 When a federal court ordered Trudeau to allow us into the leaders' debates,

00:05:58.060 twice now, he defied the spirit of that order and simply said we weren't journalists, no

00:06:03.700 matter what the court said, and so he refused to even talk to us, he'll talk to Vladimir

00:06:08.460 Putin, he'll talk to China's dictator Xi Jinping, he'll talk to Omar Khadr, but he will not

00:06:14.880 talk to us.

00:06:15.880 J'ai partagé ma perspective sur ton organisation hier soir, j'ai plus rien à dire.

00:06:28.000 So I showed you all that, and I told you what we're going to do about it. What would

00:06:36.740 you do if you were mugged like that? We are going to sue those three Trudeau bodyguards.

00:06:42.380 We're going to sue the RCMP that pays them and directs them. We're going to sue the Attorney General.

00:06:47.140 In other words, we're going to sue the most powerful people in the country. The Attorney General,

00:06:51.460 also called the Justice Minister, he runs the largest law firm in the country, also called the

00:06:56.260 Justice Department. So we're literally going against Goliath here.

00:07:01.140 David is the plaintiff. He's suing for $50,000, so obviously this isn't about the money. It's about

00:07:07.140 having a judge tell these bullies that what they're doing is unacceptable. It's illegal,

00:07:12.500 it's morally wrong, it's un-Canadian. I expect the lawsuit to cost us at least $75,000. I do it 1.00

00:07:19.300 because I love David and because my own self-respect. If David is cut, I feel it too, because he was there

00:07:26.100 for me and for Rebel News. And really that means he was there for our viewers. He was there for you.

00:07:33.940 That's why he was cut. So we rolled out the video and we had a petition and we had the lawsuit that

00:07:40.580 we filed yesterday. We showed you this all last night and the video was shocking. And thousands

00:07:45.940 of people around the world were shocked by it. Political commentators around the world even,

00:07:50.980 Australia, the United Kingdom, America, were stunned by what they saw from Ann Coulter,

00:07:55.540 Fox News' Tammy Bruce, to Breitbart.com, to the UK's Lawrence Fox. About a million people have seen

00:08:03.860 the video in different versions on our different platforms. But here at home in Canada, crickets.

00:08:12.340 Almost total silence. Not total. Conrad Black called it a shameful event. Laurie Goldstein of the Sun

00:08:20.820 Chain was upset by it too, as was Joe Wormington. Our friends at True North, including Sue Ann Levy in

00:08:26.980 Cosman, Georgia. But that's just about it. The only member of parliament who took a stand was John

00:08:35.700 Williamson, a former journalist himself, who wrote this strong statement on Twitter.

00:08:40.980 I appreciate that. Out of 119 conservative MPs, that was about it. That's all I saw. Tell me if I missed

00:09:10.260 something. Leslyn Lewis clicked like on John's tweet. I guess that's better than nothing. I'm

00:09:16.660 pretty sure that's it. No comment from any other politician that I saw. Certainly not from any of

00:09:21.940 the other parties. Now, I'm not looking for validation. I know the difference between right

00:09:26.340 and wrong. I'm not even looking for help. We'll help ourselves. And our viewers will help us crowdfund

00:09:33.380 the lawsuit. I don't need a politician to do anything for me or for David, actually.

00:09:40.260 But I do need them to do something to let the world know that this is unacceptable and un-Canadian, 1.00

00:09:45.940 to let the country know, to let the RCMP know that this is not normal, to happen to anyone.

00:09:52.180 I don't care about a politician coming to my aid or David's aid. Will no one say that this was

00:09:59.300 unacceptable? Is it because they hate Rebel News so much or hate David Menzies so much? I don't think

00:10:05.220 David is particularly hateable. I don't think Rebel News is either, by the way. But even if that's the

00:10:11.540 case, don't you think you ought to speak out against police violence? Against anyone? Let alone against

00:10:18.660 journalists. I mean, is that actually okay, what you saw? Is that the message of the stony silence here?

00:10:24.900 I tagged the Canadian Association of Journalists, the Canadian Civil Liberties Association,

00:10:31.620 Canadian Journalists for Free Expression, Pen Canada, Amnesty International Canada,

00:10:37.300 all the so-called civil liberties groups. Not a peep. All of them stood up for Omar Khadr,

00:10:44.180 the terrorist murderer. None of them stood up for David Menzies, conservative journalist. What does that

00:10:50.580 mean? Oh well, why should we be special? No civil liberties group has lifted a finger

00:10:57.860 for anyone in the past two years. But I must show you these. I said that in my show yesterday,

00:11:06.820 I predicted that most journalists would remain silent and that some would even

00:11:10.260 blame the victim. I knew I was right about the first part, but I really didn't think

00:11:15.860 the second part was that likely. I mean, come on, look at this video. It's pretty bloody clear cut.

00:11:22.340 Who would blame David Menzies for this? How could you even blame him? Look with your eyes.

00:11:28.980 Okay, well look at this. David Aiken, Global News Big Shot, former colleague of mine in David Menzies

00:11:35.940 and Sun News. He asked, curious, what was the question David risked life and limb to ask?

00:11:45.860 So your former, David Aiken, so your former colleague just got beat up. And you don't say,

00:11:52.500 whoa, are you okay? Or whoa, this is wrong. Or even this looks wrong. You say,

00:11:59.940 what was the question he was going to ask? What? How's that relevant? What shampoo do you use?

00:12:09.060 What a disappointing answer this is going to be. Whatever happens to be hanging around

00:12:14.020 at the time. And you say he was risking life and limb, mockingly. Now, I don't think David was

00:12:20.020 risking his life, although you never know. I think he got a kind of concussion actually. And I know he was

00:12:27.460 bleeding. But this is the reaction of a journalist? Let alone a friend. Who would say that? Well,

00:12:35.060 what were you going to ask? As if you were blaming a rape victim because she wore a

00:12:40.260 too short skirt. David Aiken isn't quite the journalist he thinks he is. If he actually watched

00:12:46.340 the videos that we published, we published two videos last night and the third today,

00:12:51.140 you can see the question David Menzies would have asked because he actually asked it later,

00:12:55.700 why is Trudeau going to a Christmas party when he's telling Canadians not to? Okay,

00:13:00.180 it's a fair question. If you have a better question, go ahead and ask it.

00:13:03.540 But the question is irrelevant to why he was beat up, that he was beat up.

00:13:08.100 And by David Aiken asking, well, what question were you going to ask? That implies there's a

00:13:14.020 right or a wrong answer to that, that something turns on the answer to that. As in, perhaps David's

00:13:19.380 question, which he hadn't had the chance to ask yet, perhaps that was the reason that David Menzies

00:13:25.380 was pummeled. But David Aiken was just getting warmed up last night. And he's talking to Stacey

00:13:32.020 Newman here, who says, I've seen rebel news in action. It's ugly. They provoke, provoke, provoke.

00:13:40.260 They are neither credible nor ethical. Having said that, we should be shown what precipitated

00:13:46.980 the manhandling of this reporter to assure ourselves that we do, in fact, have a free press in Canada.

00:13:53.220 So that's some senior editor somewhere. And she has about 50 words of smearing us 1.00

00:13:59.620 before acknowledging, yikes, that David actually was manhandled. And it

00:14:06.660 does, in fact, suggest we don't have a free press. So she's worried. She hates us, but she's worried.

00:14:13.460 There was no provoke, provoke, provoke or unethical conduct. In fact, the only unethical

00:14:18.980 conduct here is people smearing David without even bothering to watch. But take a look.

00:14:28.980 Yeah.

00:14:45.140 Roll now?

00:14:48.500 Okay, that must be that.

00:14:54.100 Get out of the road.

00:14:54.820 Huh?

00:14:56.260 What's wrong with it?

00:14:56.820 I think I hit my car.

00:14:57.620 Huh?

00:14:58.020 Yeah.

00:14:58.580 You'd like to see that.

00:14:59.860 I wouldn't like to see that at all.

00:15:02.900 It needs a lot of paperwork for me.

00:15:04.340 Yeah.

00:15:11.540 Stay back.

00:15:12.260 What are you doing?

00:15:12.980 Get off me. 0.85

00:15:14.900 Hey, I can.

00:15:17.460 Hey, this is assault.

00:15:19.140 I'm on a side.

00:15:21.780 I'm on a sidewalk.

00:15:22.820 Okay, so forget the smears by that editor who, frankly, I've never heard of.

00:15:30.420 Put aside the smears, she actually did say that it looked bloody awful.

00:15:36.580 But not David Aiken.

00:15:39.060 He was trying to turn her around on this.

00:15:40.820 He said, Google David Menzies and arrest.

00:15:44.980 This is how he pays his bills.

00:15:46.660 What?

00:15:49.460 So David Aiken is saying that David Menzies wanted this for profit?

00:15:56.420 That this is what David Menzies does for money?

00:16:01.620 That David Menzies expected this, wanted this, planned this, provoked this?

00:16:06.100 And by the way, David Aiken is still suggesting that David Menzies was arrested.

00:16:11.940 Menzies was not arrested.

00:16:13.060 He was mugged by the police, not arrested by them, not charged by them.

00:16:18.500 I'll show you another tweet here, another journalist.

00:16:20.980 Alan Fryer chimed in and said to David Aiken, shouldn't matter, David.

00:16:25.780 This should not happen in Canada.

00:16:27.380 So Alan Fryer is saying it doesn't matter what David Menzies was going to ask.

00:16:31.140 But Aiken doubles down.

00:16:32.420 He says, like I said, I'm curious, the only journalist in scare quotes I've seen treated

00:16:40.900 this way in 20 years of covering political leaders as Menzies, it's his shtick fundraising

00:16:47.700 theater.

00:16:48.740 He gets arrested all the time.

00:16:53.220 Will I say again that he wasn't arrested last night?

00:16:55.940 And a better journalist would have known that than David Aiken, because David Menzies was

00:17:01.460 doing nothing wrong.

00:17:03.140 He was standing on a sidewalk.

00:17:06.180 But it's a lie.

00:17:07.140 David Menzies has paid his salary.

00:17:09.940 His salary is fixed.

00:17:11.780 It doesn't depend on crowdfunding campaigns or how police treat him, if he's arrested or

00:17:17.700 not.

00:17:18.740 David Menzies does not even know, none of our journalists know how our crowdfunding campaigns

00:17:24.340 go financially, or if there's even enough money to come in to cover any legal fees.

00:17:29.860 He says it's not the province of our reporters.

00:17:32.980 But look at David Aiken's proof.

00:17:34.980 He said, David is attacked again and again.

00:17:38.100 So obviously, that's proof that he's wrong.

00:17:40.900 I mean, people wouldn't be attacking him if he wasn't wrong.

00:17:44.660 Obviously, it's proof that David Menzies is wrong.

00:17:48.020 Not that the police are brutal or Trudeau is brutal.

00:17:50.580 And again, he says, you'll think.

00:17:58.420 And then there's a little smiley face.

00:18:00.900 As I've been saying, Google David Menzies in arrest.

00:18:03.940 This is his business model.

00:18:08.980 You wicked defamer, David Aiken.

00:18:11.460 He's laughing, smiley face, at David Menzies for being beat up.

00:18:18.020 This is his business model, being beat up.

00:18:22.100 How did David profit from this?

00:18:25.700 As if he went there to be attacked, as if anyone would have or could have expected such violence.

00:18:34.740 Look again! Look again!

00:18:39.940 Why would David Aiken say those things?

00:18:44.260 Why is he looking at a clear video of a man being mugged, unprovoked?

00:18:51.700 And why is he laughing at him, and mocking him, and claiming he's doing it for profit?

00:18:57.140 I just don't even understand that profit part.

00:18:59.380 Is David getting paid for having been beaten up?

00:19:03.860 What on earth is he saying? What's going on?

00:19:07.060 I think it's because David Aiken's worldview is that the Trudeau liberals are fine.

00:19:13.620 Everything is fine.

00:19:15.140 The way the government treats the media is fine.

00:19:17.460 And such a shocking, inconvenient fact is this mugging of David Menzies.

00:19:25.300 If David Aiken looks at it on its own terms and accepts that it's real, then David Aiken's world comes tumbling down.

00:19:33.380 And David Aiken's belief system that Justin Trudeau is a gentle, noble, woke leader, these two things cannot be reconciled.

00:19:43.380 So David Aiken has chosen to throw out the inconvenient fact and to disbelieve his lying eyes about what happened,

00:19:51.540 because the alternative is too terrifying to think that Justin Trudeau is, in fact, a bit of a thug.

00:19:58.340 And his entourage of bodyguards actually did beat the living daylights out of a 59-year-old journalist with two artificial hips.

00:20:06.420 It's just too much for David Aiken to process, so he throws out the fact that it would damage his theory.

00:20:13.460 And his obsession with David making money off it.

00:20:16.180 I signed David's paycheck, and I can assure you that David's paycheck is a salary that is consistent whether he's attacked or not.

00:20:25.660 I should give him some sort of danger pay, I suppose.

00:20:29.160 But what a wicked lie that David Menzies schemed this, schemed being attacked on purpose.

00:20:38.280 David Aiken's obsession with money, which is so strange, is, I think, a little bit Freudian.

00:20:46.680 Because here at Rebel News, we don't take a dime from Justin Trudeau.

00:20:51.520 You know that.

00:20:52.940 We're one of the handful of companies in Canada that runs a news organization without taking money from Trudeau.

00:20:59.820 David Aiken was a journalist.

00:21:03.000 It goes from news outlet to news outlet.

00:21:05.920 All of them are on the take in one way or the other from Trudeau's media bailouts, media funds of this sort and that sort.

00:21:12.520 It's obviously subconscious in David Aiken's own mind that he can never be a true journalist if he's taking money from Trudeau.

00:21:23.040 That's got a way on his mind.

00:21:25.400 The fact that he is paid by Trudeau, and he covers Trudeau, and he doesn't disclose that essential conflict of interest.

00:21:31.780 So he projects his own subconscious conflict onto David Menzies as if David Menzies is out there trying to please or appease some master.

00:21:43.540 The beauty of running Rebel News, when we're crowdfunded by thousands of individuals, average size of a gift, 50 bucks, is that there's no boss.

00:21:52.660 There's no sacred cow.

00:21:54.080 There's no someone you're not allowed to take on.

00:21:56.720 And if you doubt me, look at how we take on conservatives, from Aaron O'Toole to my old friend Jason Kenney.

00:22:02.600 There's no sacred cows when you work at Rebel News.

00:22:05.680 But David Aiken has to be careful.

00:22:07.980 He doesn't offend his ultimate paymaster, Justin Trudeau.

00:22:11.120 And so he's projecting his obsession with selling out onto David Menzies.

00:22:16.300 And he's thinking, well, the only way this makes sense is as a stunt that David Menzies somehow planned to be mugged by these cops.

00:22:25.920 What a disgrace.

00:22:26.680 It wasn't just David Aiken.

00:22:27.980 Terry Glavin, a self-declared human rights journalist.

00:22:32.140 Seriously.

00:22:32.820 That's his whole shtick.

00:22:33.960 That's his whole thing.

00:22:34.960 He tweeted this.

00:22:35.860 He said, in response to Larry Solomon saying this is unacceptable, he said,

00:22:39.980 Except you have to sit through a fundraising ad for Levant's show before the evidence, in scare quotes, is shown.

00:22:47.540 And it consists of video appearing to show cops being perhaps unnecessarily and maybe unintentionally rough with a guy.

00:23:00.200 Really.

00:23:00.800 So, perhaps unnecessary, or maybe it was necessary.

00:23:06.300 Maybe it had to be necessary.

00:23:07.700 Perhaps it was unintentional.

00:23:10.220 Perhaps it was just a mistake.

00:23:11.440 Perhaps they kept beating him by mistake.

00:23:14.360 By mistake.

00:23:15.640 And it's just, and the evidence of your eyes, like David Aiken, Terry Glavin, who's just got the perfect perch in society.

00:23:26.780 He gets to tell you how noble and righteous he is.

00:23:31.520 His specialty is talking about human rights in other countries, in Hong Kong, or in Tibet, or in the Uyghur part of China, or in Kurdistan.

00:23:42.440 Terry Glavin is excellent when talking about human rights in other countries.

00:23:47.320 And he writes for media in Canada that are Trudeau bailouts.

00:23:52.660 Same thing there.

00:23:53.560 He can't bring himself to look at police brutality against journalists in his own country because he's on the payroll of Justin Trudeau through the media bailouts.

00:24:06.540 And because it would just, he can't survive in a, he can't survive without his belief system that Trudeau is noble and everything's fine.

00:24:16.160 I think there's one more layer about Terry Glavin, who writes all these very earnest columns about civil liberties and human rights in foreign lands from his den.

00:24:25.380 Whereas we are sending our reporters to these places.

00:24:28.460 We sent twice reporters to Hong Kong to cover the uprising there.

00:24:33.560 Twice we sent reporters to Iraq, to Kurdistan.

00:24:37.760 The things that Terry Glavin likes to talk about.

00:24:39.960 We're actually doing it.

00:24:41.700 Those are a couple of examples I want to bring to your attention.

00:24:44.140 Other than the few journalists I named, the vast majority of journalists in Canada were silent.

00:24:53.100 And Terry Glavin and the wicked David Akin thought they would accuse David Menzies of constructing this.

00:25:02.700 I don't know, of being in some sort of trick with Trudeau's bodyguards to get beaten up.

00:25:09.020 You know what that's called?

00:25:10.240 That's called a conspiracy theory.

00:25:15.120 David Akin sees Justin Trudeau's bodyguards beat up David Menzies.

00:25:20.320 And instead of looking at those facts, he cooks up a bizarre conspiracy theory that David Menzies planned it, profited from it.

00:25:29.800 And he fudges other facts like saying he was, quote, arrested.

00:25:33.040 He was not arrested, David Akin, and that's why this was so gross.

00:25:37.960 We will defend David Menzies.

00:25:40.920 We will raise money from our viewers because we don't take it from Justin Trudeau.

00:25:48.100 They're not just disgraces of journalists, David Akin and Terry Glavin.

00:25:52.580 I think they're disgraces as people.

00:25:57.620 Stay with us for more.

00:25:58.980 Well, if you define a vaccine as a mild dose of an illness that you deliberately take so that your body develops an antibody and protects you from the real bad thing,

00:26:14.720 you could say that the Omicron variety of the COVID-19 virus is a de facto vaccine.

00:26:24.000 Now, that's sort of cheating because it's catching the disease itself.

00:26:27.360 But it's so mild compared to other forms that there are so few hospitalizations.

00:26:33.740 And last I checked, in the entire world, just one recorded death.

00:26:37.960 You could say it's tantamount to catching a cold.

00:26:42.320 And yet this terrifying wave of Omicron has stampeded the public health state and their political puppets into declaring lockdowns of the strangest varieties.

00:26:57.420 I saw one Canadian public health officer issue an order that waiters, waitresses and bartenders must now wear goggles, swimming goggles or other protective eyewear like a welder, maybe, to work.

00:27:16.520 That's the madness we're in.

00:27:19.100 I think they do it because they love the lockdowns.

00:27:21.640 They want perpetual lockdowns.

00:27:23.140 But one of the new utterances from the public health deep state is stop traveling, cancel your plans, no Christmas vacations.

00:27:34.760 Here to join us to talk about that is our friend Andrew Lawton, whose new essay is called Screw the Travel Advisory, I'm Headed for the Border.

00:27:42.880 And Andrew joined us now.

00:27:43.820 Andrew, great to see you.

00:27:45.760 I don't think there's any science behind this one.

00:27:48.340 It may be true that the Omicron variety is spreading like wildfire, but it's really nothing more than the cold.

00:27:55.660 I'm not saying that to be a disinformation guy.

00:28:01.180 I'm just saying, what do you call it when literally 99.999% of people don't get sick enough to go to the hospital?

00:28:11.580 They're just sick for a day or so like a cold.

00:28:13.440 I just think that's not anything to be terrified of.

00:28:17.780 Maybe I'm wrong.

00:28:19.160 No, and I should say that essay you mentioned is from my new substack.

00:28:23.980 And I think right now it's gotten more reaction and more emails to me from people than anything else I've published in that platform.

00:28:30.920 Because a lot of people, even those who have been dutifully going along with everything that's been asked of them, they didn't gather in Christmas 2020.

00:28:38.440 They got their vaccination.

00:28:40.520 Some of them have even been triple dosed.

00:28:42.000 They've got the vaccine passports.

00:28:43.640 They've done anything and everything that's been asked of them.

00:28:47.120 And even a lot of these people are feeling like the rug has finally been pulled out from under them.

00:28:51.360 Now, I'd say, you know, better late than never, because this is a concern that you and I and people that follow our shows have been talking about for months now.

00:28:59.860 But a lot of people, I think, now at this point are saying, OK, enough is enough.

00:29:04.180 There is zero evidence suggesting that Omicron is worthy of the panic.

00:29:08.180 Yet you've got Ontario's chief medical officer saying that we're about to face what he's going to what he's already decided is the worst wave yet.

00:29:16.460 Yeah.

00:29:17.020 Worst.

00:29:17.340 I wonder how he measures that, because it's certainly not the deadliest.

00:29:21.060 I mean, that gets us back to the taxonomy, a case, a test.

00:29:27.220 But if you have no symptoms, you know, there's a there's a saying in medicine, cure the symptom, cure the disease.

00:29:33.120 If there's no symptom, what even is it?

00:29:37.140 I got a question for you, though.

00:29:39.840 You say that people who have dutifully followed the rules and got the double vax and all that feel like the rug has been pulled from out from under them.

00:29:48.660 And they're feeling like they already followed through on their promise.

00:29:51.460 Why are they being hassled some more?

00:29:52.980 And I see, for example, Dr. Jordan Peterson, who's quite a conservative public intellectual.

00:29:58.740 He at first really went along with the vaxes and I think he's had I mean, I don't know if he regrets taking the vaxes, but he's saying I regret giving them the moral authority because I thought that by paying that Dane gail, I'd get rid of the Dane.

00:30:13.260 I thought that they would leave me alone.

00:30:15.500 And I see that.

00:30:16.160 No, they've just put me on a conveyor belt.

00:30:18.020 So I think he feels he's what you described there.

00:30:21.120 But for every Jordan Peterson who's saying, no, you're breaking the social contract we have.

00:30:27.680 I got to think that there's someone else who said, well, I'll just wear a mask.

00:30:33.180 Well, I'll just get one jab.

00:30:34.860 OK, well, two jabs.

00:30:36.400 OK, like if you've if you've shown that you're obedient one, two, three, four times, each one a little more than the last.

00:30:44.580 Why wouldn't you go for a fourth dose, a fifth dose, a sixth dose, another lockdown?

00:30:50.820 I mean, there's sort of conditioning obedience training you.

00:30:55.600 What do you think?

00:30:57.060 So for every Jordan Peterson, I bet there's 20 people who say, well, yep, let's just do the next thing we have to do.

00:31:03.400 I trust these people.

00:31:05.760 Well, I mean, this is the challenge.

00:31:07.340 And admittedly, I'm just going based on a feeling.

00:31:09.980 I'm just going based on a sense.

00:31:11.640 The last couple of times we've spoken at the end of it, I think both of us have just like let our depression bounce off of each other.

00:31:17.680 And we get profoundly pessimistic by the end of it.

00:31:21.020 But but in the last week, I've started to feel a tinge of optimism just because of the volume I'm seeing of people that are finally, finally turning in some way against the the doctatorship, against this, you know, public health apparatchik that seems to be running the show.

00:31:37.980 And again, I can't say it's going to be fleeting.

00:31:39.900 I can't say it's a majority.

00:31:41.440 But I do think there are more people in that Jordan Peterson-esque camp that you've just described than there were even a week ago.

00:31:48.340 And I don't know if it's because people are upset about being robbed of another Christmas or if it's because people are just looking at the Omicron scare and seeing that the Omicron panic is really a media led variant of concern rather than a viral led variant of concern.

00:32:04.040 You know, I see the WestJet is complaining.

00:32:08.080 They're saying that this travel advisory has no scientific basis, that they're that they were given no notice, that it's dashing their plans for recovery.

00:32:19.100 And I accept every word of that and I agree with every word of that.

00:32:23.040 But on the other hand, I can't help but also know that WestJet, like Air Canada, enforces junk science against their own passengers and against their own staff.

00:32:36.460 They refuse to make any reasonable accommodation for their staff.

00:32:40.680 I know a case of a WestJet employee who has always worked from home, even before the pandemic.

00:32:47.800 WestJet said if they didn't get the jab, they'd be fired.

00:32:52.060 No reasonable cause.

00:32:52.740 She's already working at home.

00:32:54.920 So WestJet near Canada were happy to fire hundreds of flight attendants and gate agents without any reasonable accommodation.

00:33:02.840 They've set up these in-house medical desks that reject passengers' doctor's notes.

00:33:09.860 I saw a family who had a doctor who said, anaphylactic shock to this, cannot take the jab, do not jab.

00:33:21.400 And Air Canada rejected it.

00:33:23.240 They have their own, like, anti-doctor.

00:33:26.420 I don't know if they're doing this at the behest of the government.

00:33:29.140 I would guess they are, since both WestJet and Air Canada have the same extremist policies.

00:33:34.200 It's just a little bit rich for WestJet to complain about junk science when they've been following the government's whimsical hard line the whole time.

00:33:43.040 I don't know.

00:33:43.400 Maybe you have a different view on that.

00:33:45.560 Yeah.

00:33:45.780 I mean, Canadian airline employees are now getting the same service that Canadian airline passengers have been getting from these companies for the last however many years.

00:33:53.720 But the reality of this is, when we take a look at all of the challenges that we're seeing here, and we'll continue to see, it underscores that unscientific nature you just spoke about.

00:34:04.860 So, a couple of months ago, Justin Trudeau said the only way to make sure the air is going to be safe is if we mandate vaccination to board a domestic or international flight originating in a Canadian airport.

00:34:17.240 Okay.

00:34:17.900 Air Canada, WestJet, Porter, they all go along with this.

00:34:20.780 Universities are saying that the only way to ensure that the campus is safe is to make sure we have a virtually 100% vaccination rate.

00:34:28.540 So, campuses are supposed to be the safest places in Canadian society right now.

00:34:33.900 Every single student, professor, teaching assistant, janitor, doesn't matter, is fully vaccinated.

00:34:39.320 So, why then are schools cancelling exams?

00:34:41.840 Why then are schools delaying a return to in-person classes after January?

00:34:46.300 Why is the government telling people not to travel on the planes that they've purged of those dirty, unwashed masses of unvaccinated people? 1.00

00:34:54.380 So, what the governments are doing here is doubling and tripling down on the same policies that, by their own metrics, have not yielded the outcomes they promised.

00:35:03.440 Yeah.

00:35:03.840 I got a question for you.

00:35:05.040 I have my own answer that you might not agree with.

00:35:07.400 But, I remember when the concept of herd immunity was first entered into the public lexicon.

00:35:15.720 I mean, it's sort of startling at first because we think of a herd of sheep or a herd of cattle.

00:35:21.060 The idea of herd immunity for people sounds a little brutal, but you get over it quickly.

00:35:25.820 And it makes sense.

00:35:26.660 Enough people are immune that it sort of stops the transmission so that those who are not immune, they're actually protected by the other folks.

00:35:37.180 And herd immunity was always considered 40%, 50%, whatever.

00:35:41.660 At least that's how the subject was introduced a year and a half ago.

00:35:45.300 Here we are almost at the two-year anniversary of the emergency.

00:35:48.220 And depending on your jurisdiction, you have vaccination rates of 80, 90, and in some jurisdictions, they actually have 100% vaccination.

00:36:02.060 Gibraltar, which is a British protectorate between Spain and Morocco, is an example of that.

00:36:09.300 But the more vaccinated the world is, the harsher the policy prescriptions are.

00:36:18.560 Instead of easing up, they're getting harsher.

00:36:21.060 We talked about basically you can't fly in this country anymore if you're unvaccinated.

00:36:25.420 Universities are tyrannical now.

00:36:28.280 Why are they the harshest ever, given that you literally have 80, 90 plus percent vaccination rate?

00:36:36.900 And they said, herd immunity would kick in earlier.

00:36:40.160 Why are they so harsh?

00:36:43.660 Well, I mean, this is the thing, is that whenever the projections or predictions or pledges or promises, whatever they are, have been proven wrong,

00:36:51.540 they retroactively go back and change what the motivation was.

00:36:55.640 I mean, you mentioned the two-year anniversary of the emergency.

00:36:58.720 The initial plan was not to prevent anyone from getting COVID.

00:37:02.380 The initial plan was not to make sure we have no COVID in Canada.

00:37:05.580 It was to ensure that the spread of COVID transmission was taking place at a manageable pace so that we could get hospital capacity.

00:37:13.600 That was the now proverbial, and I'd say turned into a punchline, of two weeks to flatten the curve.

00:37:19.660 I mean, the curve was flattened, the curve was a straight line, and then we've had to flatten the curve over and over again every couple of months for the last two years.

00:37:27.620 So all of the merchants of doom, I called them in my column that you cited earlier, all of these merchants from doom, whenever they're proven wrong, just go back and say,

00:37:37.840 well, you know, it was an abundance of caution, and we didn't know what we know now.

00:37:41.560 And, you know, that seems to be true, that they just don't know anything at any point.

00:37:45.600 My theory that you might not like is that you've got to eliminate the control group.

00:37:53.020 If 95, 99% of people have taken the jab in five or 10 years, if there's some long-term health impact that we don't know yet because we haven't done the long-term studies,

00:38:05.200 and by the way, the FDA has ordered these drug companies to continue to do experimental tests on them for five or six years.

00:38:12.000 So if five, 10 years from now, a side effect is discovered, if you've eliminated the control group, that is, people who didn't take the vax, you've eliminated the political problem.

00:38:24.460 Although, not that it matters much because, of course, governments have indemnified them.

00:38:27.920 That sounds like a conspiracy theory, but to me, it's the only theory that fits.

00:38:31.740 It doesn't fit with herd immunity.

00:38:34.580 It just has never fit with how things have worked before.

00:38:37.440 I feel like there are so many things that do not explain themselves rationally.

00:38:43.180 We have to look for a hidden reason.

00:38:45.780 You know, the Latin phrase, cui bono, who benefits, is always a good way.

00:38:49.500 And, you know, the success of Big Pharma, this crisis was an opportunity for them.

00:38:55.700 I'm not asking you to follow me down any rabbit hole of speculation here.

00:39:00.800 I'm not really speculating.

00:39:01.860 I'm just trying to figure out why.

00:39:03.600 Why, why, why?

00:39:04.700 Because it contradicts what they said themselves.

00:39:07.100 It doesn't make sense.

00:39:08.200 We see that the vaccines don't stop people from catching or spreading the disease.

00:39:12.920 And yet, they're still on that one rigid prescription.

00:39:16.760 Curiosity demands an explanation, and one is not forthcoming from the officials.

00:39:21.220 Last word to you, Andrew, if you want to refute or rebut or give a different answer, feel free.

00:39:28.400 I'm just engaging in brainstorming here.

00:39:30.780 What the heck are they doing?

00:39:32.200 I'm trying to figure it out.

00:39:33.400 Well, they're important questions.

00:39:35.820 And listen, Ezra, I won't pretend to have the answer, but I will say that herd immunity has

00:39:40.840 always been, in the history of epidemiology, a combination of natural immunity and immunity

00:39:47.120 that you could acquire through vaccination.

00:39:49.360 That's been the effort.

00:39:50.480 And one of the reasons that the United States has had such success in staying open after reopening

00:39:55.960 is because they had very high levels of naturally acquired immunity.

00:40:00.600 Now, you can look at retroactively death rates and hospitalization rates and things that

00:40:06.360 the U.S. went through and have a debate about whether that was the optimal strategy.

00:40:10.680 But the U.S. has shown that natural immunity is something that exists and can actually give

00:40:15.840 you relative safety and herd immunity in a community alongside vaccination rates, which

00:40:21.340 in many states are lower than they are in parts of Europe and most of Canada, as a matter

00:40:27.440 of fact.

00:40:27.740 So all of that is to say that that aspect of it, of herd immunity, has been completely

00:40:33.680 taken off the table in Canada.

00:40:35.720 Even in Germany, which is mulling population-wide vaccination mandates like they're doing in

00:40:41.860 Austria, even Germany, with such a strict and stringent measure on the table, still respects

00:40:47.680 having recovered from COVID as being an alternative to being vaccinated if you want your vaccine

00:40:52.740 passport.

00:40:53.200 So there's an aspect of this that, in Canada, refuses to be acknowledged.

00:40:58.040 Yeah.

00:40:58.300 You know, that's such an important point.

00:41:00.140 By the way, when our reporter, Alexa Lavoie, put a question to Justin Trudeau directly at

00:41:05.940 the leader's debate in September, her question was precisely on why Canada doesn't recognize

00:41:13.640 natural immunity from people who recover.

00:41:16.420 And it's no surprise that he refused to answer and insulted her instead.

00:41:20.180 I thought it was the best question of the debate.

00:41:22.240 Andrew Lawton, great to see you again.

00:41:23.380 I want to encourage people to sign up for Andrew's newsletter.

00:41:26.960 It's through Substack, which is a great little service.

00:41:29.840 Go to andrewlawton.substack.com.

00:41:35.080 And we're subscribers.

00:41:36.360 I'll tell you that.

00:41:37.480 Andrew, great to see you again.

00:41:39.140 Hey, thank you, Ezra.

00:41:40.120 All right.

00:41:40.540 There you have it.

00:41:41.100 Andrew Lawton, he's with TNC.news.

00:41:43.180 Plus, he's got his own Substack newsletter.

00:41:45.380 Stay with us more ahead.

00:41:46.240 Hey, welcome back.

00:41:54.940 Your viewer feedback.

00:41:56.300 Someone with the initials WDG7 says, Trudeau and his bodyguards should be convicted and

00:42:01.800 imprisoned, just like any other person who commits assault.

00:42:05.700 In fact, they should be held to a higher standard.

00:42:08.580 Well, I'd be happy if they were just charged and we had a trial and let the judge hear the

00:42:12.660 evidence.

00:42:13.280 What made them do that?

00:42:14.960 What was it that provoked them to do it?

00:42:17.560 And most curiously, and this is what Lincoln Jay brought up.

00:42:20.520 Lincoln, you saw him.

00:42:21.380 He's a young, healthy guy in his 20s, fit guy.

00:42:23.880 He was a cameraman.

00:42:25.120 I don't think he was known to police.

00:42:26.900 David, 59 years old, two artificial hips.

00:42:29.820 Mike Flash, very well known to police.

00:42:31.760 They're both together.

00:42:34.100 Neither of them is a threat, obviously.

00:42:35.620 Both of them were right there for an hour with the cops.

00:42:37.700 But if you were going to tackle someone as the threat, are you going for the older guy

00:42:43.300 who you know?

00:42:44.900 You'd go for Lincoln. 0.67

00:42:45.920 Not that you should go for either.

00:42:47.260 The fact that they ignored Lincoln and went right after David Menzies suggests that someone

00:42:52.180 said, get Menzies. 0.72

00:42:54.800 That's just, I mean, Occam's razor.

00:42:56.440 The simplest explanation is likely the right one.

00:43:00.360 The cops were there for an hour waiting with Lincoln, Jay, and David Menzies.

00:43:06.700 And only when they rolled up and someone in the car must have seen them, get David.

00:43:12.160 Tackle David.

00:43:13.420 I believe the order was made from the entourage in the motorcade.

00:43:17.640 That's just speculation on my part.

00:43:19.460 We need a trial to get the facts.

00:43:20.880 Deb Phillips says, Lincoln handled that situation with total integrity and courage.

00:43:27.840 Bravo, young man.

00:43:28.820 Yeah, I like Lincoln.

00:43:29.940 And he kept the camera running.

00:43:31.760 And we talk about this sometimes at Rebel News.

00:43:34.760 Do you try and intervene to fix something or you just hold the camera and record it?

00:43:39.340 Well, obviously, what can you do?

00:43:41.320 If it was a private gangster mugging David, I think the right move for Lincoln would have 0.98

00:43:46.180 been for him to drop the camera and save his friend.

00:43:48.500 But when police or RCMP or armed guards are tackling David, you can't intervene.

00:43:54.320 Someone said, we've got to get a bodyguard for David Menzies.

00:43:56.920 You can't use a bodyguard against the cops.

00:43:59.280 It doesn't work that way.

00:44:00.920 So Lincoln did the right thing.

00:44:02.480 Keep the camera rolling.

00:44:04.880 Someone with the nickname, the cat came back, says, law states it is illegal for police to

00:44:09.960 block a reporter's camera. 0.99

00:44:12.300 Law states that retribution against an officer is also illegal.

00:44:15.900 This all starts at the top.

00:44:17.540 Judas Trudeau.

00:44:18.500 Well, I'm going to disagree with so many parts of your letter there.

00:44:22.260 It is not illegal to block a reporter's camera, obviously.

00:44:27.520 I, you know, Judas Trudeau.

00:44:31.120 I don't think you're moving hearts and minds there.

00:44:35.740 It's like when people say Trudeau for treason or Trudeau is a traitor.

00:44:39.220 I say, no, pump the brakes, mister.

00:44:41.400 Pump the brakes.

00:44:42.100 And here's why.

00:44:42.700 If you call him a traitor, you're implying there's an actual crime.

00:44:47.460 And some people say we have to prosecute Trudeau for what he's doing.

00:44:50.880 We do not want to criminalize political differences of opinion because who do you think is going to be the first person charged with that?

00:44:57.900 You are.

00:44:59.600 Or conservative politicians or conservative activists.

00:45:04.080 So this whole Judas Trudeau, it's illegal, what they're doing is illegal, citizens arrest, sue them.

00:45:11.140 That doesn't work.

00:45:12.640 It doesn't work.

00:45:13.660 And you don't want it to work because it will be used against you if you can criminalize political differences of opinion.

00:45:20.080 I've probably said this 20 times when people say, can we arrest Trudeau?

00:45:24.140 Arrest him for what?

00:45:25.780 If the guy actually commits a real crime.

00:45:28.900 And there may have been a crime of corruption involved with SNC-Lavalin.

00:45:32.740 There may have been a crime.

00:45:34.040 Arrest him for what you can prove.

00:45:35.380 But don't arrest him for simply disagreeing with him.

00:45:37.780 I think Justin Trudeau is morally, ethically, politically, financially, patriotically wrong in every possible way.

00:45:45.960 But do not criminalize what he did any more than he just tried to criminalize what David Menzies did.

00:45:53.080 Do you see my point?

00:45:54.720 Well, my friends, that's our show for today.

00:45:56.460 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rubble World Headquarters to you at home, good night.

00:46:01.320 Keep fighting for freedom.

00:46:02.180 And let me leave you with the video of the day from our friend Lewis Brackpool's report from Cardiff.

00:46:08.460 Here's a little rebel news action from the United Kingdom.

00:46:11.460 Good night.

00:46:12.080 We're asking people's opinion on the vaccine passports.

00:46:15.260 Do you have an opinion?

00:46:16.720 Yeah, you ought to have one.

00:46:18.060 If you want to get in somewhere, have the jab.

00:46:20.280 I've had three jabs now.

00:46:21.940 I think it's great.

00:46:23.140 Have the jab.

00:46:23.780 You can do it.

00:46:24.260 You virtually do what you want, but not all the time.

00:46:26.760 Do you not think the passport might segregate society between the jabbed and unjabbed? 1.00

00:46:32.180 Not really, no.

00:46:36.060 Warning.

00:46:37.260 Censorship.

00:46:38.220 This is Lewis Brackpool for Rebel News.

00:46:40.620 And today I'm in a very sunny central Cardiff where I'm going to be going around and asking the Welsh citizens,

00:46:46.860 what do they think of the vaccine passports?

00:46:49.680 Unfortunately, at the start of the report, I was having a bit of trouble trying to get someone's opinion.

00:46:54.720 We're asking people's opinions on vaccine passports.

00:46:57.480 Did you have an opinion?

00:47:00.800 No?

00:47:01.360 No?

00:47:01.940 All right then.

00:47:02.780 That's all right.

00:47:03.440 We're asking people what their opinion is on vaccine passports.

00:47:06.720 Do we have any opinions?

00:47:09.640 I just got ignored.

00:47:10.880 All right then.

00:47:11.520 Sorry to trouble you.

00:47:12.180 We're asking people's opinion.

00:47:15.100 It's not only on vaccine passports.

00:47:19.200 Probably a pro-segregationist.

00:47:20.980 We're asking people's opinion on vaccine passports.

00:47:24.380 Vaccine passports.

00:47:25.500 I don't really have an opinion on that stuff.

00:47:26.820 No?

00:47:27.260 Okay.

00:47:28.000 All right.

00:47:28.300 No worries.

00:47:28.900 We're going around asking people their opinion on vaccine passports.

00:47:32.660 Did you have an opinion on it?

00:47:34.080 No.

00:47:34.580 No?

00:47:35.120 No?

00:47:35.520 All right then.

00:47:36.420 Have a nice day.

00:47:37.300 Hello, lads.

00:47:38.380 Sorry to trouble you.

00:47:39.800 Oh.

00:47:40.520 Dinner.

00:47:41.000 Dinner.

00:47:41.640 Okay.

00:47:42.180 Fair enough.

00:47:43.340 First dinner, then a conversation.

00:47:45.080 That's fine by me.

00:47:46.000 What I've found when I'm going to ask people about the vaccine passports, there's a bit 0.99

00:47:49.340 of a reluctancy.

00:47:50.840 Very strange.

00:47:52.040 But then, it didn't take long for the pro-vaccine passporters to come out.

00:47:56.820 What do you think of the vaccine passports that have been rolled out in Wales?

00:48:00.360 I think they're a good idea.

00:48:01.660 Okay.

00:48:01.900 Because they do show the people that have had the vaccine, and then it just makes it

00:48:06.940 a bit safer for everyone.

00:48:08.080 Do you think people like Mark Drakeford should practice what they preach?

00:48:13.220 They are in Wales today.

00:48:14.780 Everything we do has an impact on the virus, and every contact we have counts.

00:48:22.500 I feel like if you're telling other people to do something, you should probably do it

00:48:29.720 yourself, yeah.

00:48:30.280 I haven't looked into it too much, though, so I can't say for certain.

00:48:34.300 Might invite you to his Christmas party.

00:48:35.880 You never know.

00:48:37.740 What's your view on the vaccine passports?

00:48:40.880 Well, to be fair, mate, I don't see it as an issue.

00:48:44.260 If we've all got vaccines, have a passport.

00:48:47.000 It could be electronic.

00:48:48.160 It's the modern era.

00:48:49.920 It could be cardboard, because that's, you know, you can fit in your wallet.

00:48:54.820 What's it going to hurt to have a passport?

00:48:56.640 Sorry to trouble you guys.

00:48:57.880 Because we're going around asking people's opinion on vaccine passports.

00:49:01.800 Did you guys have an opinion on it?

00:49:03.380 No, not really.

00:49:04.320 I'm happy to have one if everyone else has to have one.

00:49:07.040 Okay.

00:49:07.960 Do you not think it might create a division between people who are jabbed and unjabbed? 0.98

00:49:12.300 No, not really.

00:49:13.040 I've had to use one for, like, Reading Festival and that, so we've already had to use them,

00:49:16.920 and it was just a sort of, like, you know, you know everyone's got the vaccine.

00:49:19.500 Everyone's getting used to it now, aren't they?

00:49:20.580 Yeah.

00:49:20.760 Right, okay.

00:49:21.300 Just sort of way of the world now, isn't it?

00:49:23.160 So, pro-segregation, then, between jabbed and unjabbed?

00:49:27.600 No, I don't think it'll cause much of a segregation, to be honest.

00:49:31.000 I mean, I think everyone's entitled to their own opinions, and they can do what they want

00:49:34.260 with their body.

00:49:35.660 You know, everything's sort of your own freedom and that.

00:49:39.000 They have to have a passport.

00:49:40.500 Yeah, that's the issue now.

00:49:41.700 They have to have a passport.

00:49:42.880 Hello, lads.

00:49:45.780 Sorry to trouble you.

00:49:47.120 We're going around asking people what their opinion is on the vaccine passports.

00:49:51.060 Yeah, get them.

00:49:51.680 Everyone should get them.

00:49:52.340 Get them out.

00:49:53.200 Yeah?

00:49:53.560 Yeah, big fat.

00:49:54.300 Do you not think you would segregate society a bit more?

00:49:57.480 Yeah, okay.

00:50:01.520 Right, okay.

00:50:02.740 Yeah, fair enough.

00:50:03.920 They like segregation, then.

00:50:05.680 So, are you for or against it?

00:50:07.040 I can't work it out.

00:50:07.720 I'd say I'm for it, only for the sake of keeping everyone safe.

00:50:13.140 Okay.

00:50:13.840 But I'm not for all the protests and everything.

00:50:16.300 I don't like people who do that.

00:50:17.960 Right, okay.

00:50:18.720 You don't like people utilising their free speech?

00:50:21.280 No.

00:50:21.760 We're asking people's opinion on the vaccine passports.

00:50:24.920 Do you have an opinion?

00:50:26.400 Yeah, you ought to have one.

00:50:27.740 If you want to get in somewhere, have the jab.

00:50:29.960 I've had three jabs now.

00:50:31.220 I think it's great.

00:50:32.860 Have the jab.

00:50:33.500 You can virtually do what you want, but not all the time.

00:50:36.220 Do you not think the passport might segregate society between the jabbed and unjabbed? 1.00

00:50:41.860 Not really, no.

00:50:42.900 Vaccine passports, yes, no?

00:50:45.460 I'm vaccinated.

00:50:46.640 I don't mind, to be honest.

00:50:48.220 It doesn't affect me too much because I'm vaccinated.

00:50:50.140 Do you think that the passports might segregate society between the jabbed and unjabbed? 1.00

00:50:55.260 Hopefully.

00:50:56.300 Hopefully?

00:50:57.160 Get vaccinated.

00:50:58.740 It's quite scary because when I go to approach someone and ask them,

00:51:01.980 they're either a bit reluctant to give their opinion.

00:51:04.400 It's almost like a sensitive subject.

00:51:06.220 Or they're very pro-segregation without understanding the consequences.

00:51:11.680 Hmm.

00:51:12.100 And then shortly after, finally, this happened.

00:51:16.400 We're asking people about their opinion on passports.

00:51:19.640 Vaccine passports.

00:51:21.980 Ah, finally.

00:51:24.080 There we go.

00:51:25.180 Finally.

00:51:25.840 Someone that's against them.

00:51:26.820 Do you think that maybe the vaccine passports could segregate society between the unjabbed and the jabbed? 1.00

00:51:32.420 Yes, it would.

00:51:33.760 But a lot of people are going to lose out on, especially restaurants and pubs and all that.

00:51:37.800 So we'll lose out on money, on business, you know.

00:51:39.800 So that'll be a disaster for Wales.

00:51:42.800 Hello, lads.

00:51:43.920 We're asking people's opinions.

00:51:46.220 Vaccine passports.

00:51:47.480 Do you have an opinion?

00:51:48.040 Er, well, I think it's a load of crap.

00:51:52.900 What's your reason?

00:51:53.920 What happens if you don't have the jab?

00:51:55.940 What are you going to do then?

00:51:56.780 Yeah.

00:51:57.360 You can't just keep them, lock people in their houses for the rest of their lives, so.

00:52:00.880 So the idea of vaccine passports at the pub, does that terrify you?

00:52:04.840 Yes, definitely.

00:52:05.440 Because I spend a lot of time in the pub, so.

00:52:09.280 It's against people's freedom and choice.

00:52:11.740 Ah, there we go.

00:52:13.600 Fantastic.

00:52:14.780 So after being in central Cardiff today for most of the afternoon,

00:52:19.360 it's fair to say that a lot of people find the subject of vaccine passports quite a sensitive one.

00:52:26.280 Although off camera, dozens of people are actually very pro-choice and anti-vaccine passports,

00:52:33.200 which is very, very surprising.

00:52:35.440 I think the main message today is that we're moving way more towards an Orwellian society

00:52:40.940 with censorship on social media and not being able to speak your mind in public to people.

00:52:48.320 So this has been Lewis Brackpull reporting in central Cardiff for Rebel News.

00:52:57.120 I'm not going to lie, I've been out in the rain for several hours now.

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Rebel News Podcast - December 18, 2021

EZRA LEVANT ｜ I’m shocked but not surprised — the Media Party thinks David Menzies deserved to be beat up

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