Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Why are teachers unions calling math “racist”？

00:00:00.080 Hello, my friends. Today I'm going to take you through two news stories about the banning of math from school as racist.

00:00:08.560 You may think I'm kidding. I am not.

00:00:10.800 I will actually take you through an Ontario court case that says math tests are racist and thus are against the Charter of Rights.

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00:00:42.900 Tonight, why are teachers unions calling math racist?

00:01:01.400 It's December 20th and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

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00:01:19.540 I saw a few interesting headlines this morning in the Rebel News morning email.

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00:01:56.280 Here are two interesting stories that are related.

00:01:59.640 The first is from Global News, who can be just awful.

00:02:03.820 But today, they were interesting.

00:02:05.820 Take a look at this story.

00:02:07.680 B.C. teachers at loggerheads with First Nations leaders over standardized testing.

00:02:13.360 So that's the headline, Global News.

00:02:14.520 Now, you might be thinking, OK, so First Nations people are arguing against standardized testing,

00:02:20.700 that they feel high standards might discriminate against indigenous kids who have a tough background,

00:02:26.740 and maybe they don't have a history of academic success in their families.

00:02:29.920 And, you know, maybe it's tough.

00:02:32.100 Maybe that's what you might guess if you follow elite opinion, critical race theory,

00:02:37.420 all sorts of woke folks saying standards are racist.

00:02:41.580 But, no, it's the opposite.

00:02:43.680 That's why this story is interesting.

00:02:45.420 These Indian bands are furious that the largely white teachers union is dumbing down education,

00:02:53.560 especially for indigenous kids.

00:02:55.500 The First Nations know that math and English are the tools to get ahead in the modern world.

00:03:00.840 It's the woke teachers who want to teach feelings and grievances instead.

00:03:06.440 I'll read to you from the story.

00:03:07.300 A group of First Nations leaders in B.C. is calling out the B.C. Teachers Federation

00:03:12.840 over the union's campaign against standardized testing for young students.

00:03:17.820 The B.C.T.F. has long opposed the foundational skills assessment tests,

00:03:24.200 which are administered annually to grade 4 and grade 7 students,

00:03:27.280 and focus on literacy and numeracy.

00:03:30.380 The union says the tests take away from classroom time,

00:03:33.640 create anxiety for students, and don't result in better support for kids,

00:03:37.680 and has encouraged parents to pull their children out of testing.

00:03:40.400 Hmm. Yeah.

00:03:43.240 Or, just a guess, maybe standardized tests don't just show how,

00:03:48.660 which students aren't keeping up.

00:03:50.900 They also show which teachers aren't keeping up,

00:03:53.840 which teachers aren't doing a good job of teaching.

00:03:56.960 I'll read some more.

00:03:58.020 The scores are also used by the Fraser Institute to create an annual ranking of schools

00:04:03.020 and regularly see private schools take the top slots.

00:04:05.980 Oh, a lot of people hate that Fraser Institute list,

00:04:10.600 because if the tests are standardized, you can compare school to school.

00:04:16.220 And then you can ask, hey, why is that school over there doing better than my kid's school?

00:04:23.040 And there might be reasons why that is to be expected,

00:04:27.020 but it starts with measuring.

00:04:29.860 A lot of people would be against that,

00:04:32.260 including bad principals who don't want to be compared to good principals,

00:04:35.680 but at the end of the day, that information is useful to parents who might,

00:04:40.300 I don't know, move their kids to a different school,

00:04:43.200 or at least complain to the bad school that they're in.

00:04:47.040 First Nations leaders say the FSA program is a critical tool to assess how the education system

00:04:51.820 is serving Indigenous children,

00:04:53.840 and to identify gaps and help allocate resources.

00:04:57.000 Exactly.

00:04:58.080 I mean, First Nations have a lot of problems 1.00

00:05:00.260 that they obviously know about,

00:05:02.760 but if you can't compare to the non-Indigenous schools,

00:05:06.580 how do you know how far behind you are,

00:05:09.080 or if you're falling further behind,

00:05:11.080 or maybe if you're closing the gap?

00:05:13.120 Why would you want to hide this information?

00:05:16.320 That's all it is, information.

00:05:19.000 Seven Indigenous leaders representing the First Nations Summit,

00:05:21.920 Union of BC,

00:05:22.980 Indian Chiefs and BC Assembly of First Nations,

00:05:25.500 penned a letter to BC Minister of Education,

00:05:27.540 Jennifer Whiteside last month,

00:05:29.640 expressing, quote,

00:05:30.400 serious concerns about the ongoing targeted attack against the tests.

00:05:36.440 Wow, that is tough talk.

00:05:38.220 Here's an example of what I mean.

00:05:41.500 There is a clear need for system-level data

00:05:44.760 that provide evidence of how well the education sector is meeting the needs

00:05:50.140 of specific populations, including our First Nations students.

00:05:53.640 I don't know how to say that word, Jody Wilson,

00:05:58.220 Secretary, Treasurer of the Union of BC Indian Chiefs,

00:06:00.540 told Global News.

00:06:02.320 By making systemic inequalities in our schools visible,

00:06:06.140 data can lead to positive change.

00:06:09.600 Wilson pointed to the 2019 FSA results,

00:06:12.340 which found that just 27% of grade 7 students

00:06:14.980 living on reserve were on track

00:06:16.900 or extending numeracy expectations

00:06:18.880 compared to 67% of their non-Indigenous peers.

00:06:22.320 So, yeah, I don't think anyone is thinking

00:06:27.220 that gap will close overnight.

00:06:29.540 But hiding that gap?

00:06:32.180 Who does that serve?

00:06:34.160 Not the students or their parents, that's for sure.

00:06:37.680 Why wouldn't you let them know that?

00:06:38.840 Why are you covering that up?

00:06:41.180 In a statement, the BC Teachers Federation agreed

00:06:44.000 that data was needed to spot discrepancies

00:06:47.180 in educational outcomes,

00:06:48.180 but that the FSA tests

00:06:49.900 and their use to rank schools

00:06:51.700 serve to deepen inequities

00:06:53.520 and pit public education against private schools.

00:06:57.600 Yeah, you're right.

00:06:58.840 And you know what?

00:07:00.080 Why shouldn't Indigenous kids 1.00

00:07:02.020 be able to go to the better schools?

00:07:03.760 Did you know that on average,

00:07:05.900 Indigenous kids actually have more money spent 1.00

00:07:09.320 on education than kids off reserve?

00:07:12.380 You certainly wouldn't know it.

00:07:15.580 They could literally pay

00:07:16.500 for the finest private schools in Canada

00:07:18.800 if they had more school choice,

00:07:20.760 but the system just absorbs the cash

00:07:23.020 without results.

00:07:25.940 No wonder the union wants to hide that.

00:07:29.300 So that's one story.

00:07:30.440 I thought it was very interesting.

00:07:32.000 And now look at this story

00:07:33.060 from across the country in Ontario.

00:07:35.760 It's shocking, really,

00:07:37.100 this anti-testing ideology

00:07:39.000 being promoted by the teachers' unions

00:07:40.660 for all the above reasons.

00:07:42.960 But in the Ontario case,

00:07:44.360 they actually went to court

00:07:45.560 to get judges to denounce

00:07:49.040 standardized tests as illegal,

00:07:52.680 as racist.

00:07:53.980 But get this,

00:07:55.460 they're not even saying

00:07:56.520 it's racist against students.

00:07:59.620 They're saying it's racist

00:08:00.720 towards teachers to have to know math.

00:08:03.220 I am dead serious.

00:08:04.400 I'm going to prove it to you.

00:08:05.240 I'm going to read to you

00:08:06.100 from the ruling.

00:08:07.640 Here is the judgment.

00:08:08.720 The court ruling

00:08:10.360 from just last week.

00:08:12.120 As you can see,

00:08:12.940 it's from the Ontario

00:08:13.580 Superior Court of Justice

00:08:14.940 Divisional Court.

00:08:17.420 Ontario teachers

00:08:18.400 suing the government

00:08:19.480 to ban math tests,

00:08:21.640 in this case,

00:08:22.380 for teachers.

00:08:24.180 I'm going to read

00:08:24.680 the first few paragraphs

00:08:25.440 because it really explains it well.

00:08:26.820 This is from the ruling.

00:08:28.960 It reads like it's from

00:08:30.180 The Onion or The Babylon Bee

00:08:31.480 or some other satire site,

00:08:32.780 but this is real people.

00:08:34.200 This isn't some woke student paper

00:08:36.600 in some gender studies class 0.90

00:08:38.160 in college.

00:08:38.760 This is what happens

00:08:39.520 when those woke students

00:08:40.640 graduate and become woke lawyers

00:08:43.240 and then become woke judges.

00:08:45.160 This is real.

00:08:45.760 I'm going to read from the ruling.

00:08:47.000 Paragraph one.

00:08:49.380 The applicants seek judicial review

00:08:50.940 of Ontario's

00:08:52.060 Mathematics Proficiency Test,

00:08:54.720 MPT,

00:08:55.780 a standardized math test

00:08:57.800 that all teacher candidates

00:08:59.500 must pass to become

00:09:00.500 certified as teachers

00:09:01.780 in Ontario.

00:09:02.960 The applicants,

00:09:04.100 the union,

00:09:04.660 seek a declaration

00:09:06.240 that the MPT

00:09:07.220 and the provisions

00:09:08.340 requiring it

00:09:09.160 violate Section 15

00:09:10.960 of the Canadian Charter

00:09:11.700 of Rights and Freedoms,

00:09:13.340 the charter.

00:09:15.180 The question on the application

00:09:16.840 is whether the MPT,

00:09:18.180 that's the math test,

00:09:19.500 has a disproportionate

00:09:21.080 adverse impact

00:09:22.640 on entry to the teaching profession

00:09:24.800 for racialized teacher candidates,

00:09:27.300 and if so,

00:09:28.560 whether it can be justified

00:09:29.800 under Section 1

00:09:30.540 of the charter.

00:09:31.000 The evidence points

00:09:33.880 to significant disparities

00:09:35.220 in success rates

00:09:36.500 of standardized testing

00:09:37.780 based on race,

00:09:39.540 including statistical evidence

00:09:41.020 of racial disparities

00:09:42.060 with respect to the MPT.

00:09:43.660 Specifically,

00:09:45.020 the deleterious effect

00:09:46.160 on diversity

00:09:47.020 is somewhat ameliorated

00:09:49.100 by subsequent attempts

00:09:50.200 available to retake the MPT.

00:09:52.020 The MPT infringes

00:09:55.700 Section 15

00:09:56.340 of the charter

00:09:57.280 and cannot be justified

00:09:58.340 under Section 1.

00:09:59.620 The respondent,

00:10:00.220 that's the government,

00:10:01.240 has not discharged

00:10:02.240 its burden

00:10:02.860 of showing that the MPT

00:10:04.640 minimally impairs

00:10:05.840 the rights

00:10:06.580 of racialized teacher candidates.

00:10:08.960 There were reasonably

00:10:09.860 available alternatives

00:10:11.500 to the MPT

00:10:12.360 that on their face

00:10:13.340 appear to be less impairing

00:10:14.660 and at least as effective

00:10:15.900 in achieving the goal

00:10:16.620 of improving

00:10:17.160 student achievement

00:10:18.460 in math.

00:10:19.940 These include requiring

00:10:20.980 a minimum number of hours

00:10:22.120 of math instruction

00:10:23.040 or a math course

00:10:24.160 in B. Ed. programs,

00:10:25.800 requiring an undergraduate

00:10:26.840 math course

00:10:27.580 as an admission requirement

00:10:28.720 for B. Ed. programs,

00:10:30.420 or waiting to see

00:10:31.280 the effect of the other

00:10:32.120 parts of the respondent's

00:10:33.280 four-year math stretch.

00:10:36.940 They are literally arguing

00:10:38.720 that it is against

00:10:39.560 the charter

00:10:40.340 to require teachers

00:10:41.960 to do well at math,

00:10:43.020 to take a math test

00:10:43.800 before becoming a teacher.

00:10:45.320 It apparently is fine

00:10:47.100 under the charter of rights

00:10:48.400 to force people

00:10:49.340 to take an injection

00:10:50.520 or lose their job,

00:10:52.120 lose their ability

00:10:53.020 to go on airplanes

00:10:54.160 or trains

00:10:55.080 or to go to a restaurant.

00:10:56.980 That's all fine

00:10:58.000 by the charter,

00:10:59.200 but making math teachers

00:11:01.080 know math,

00:11:02.100 that's discrimination.

00:11:03.820 Now, the government said

00:11:04.940 that making math teachers

00:11:07.180 learn math, you know,

00:11:07.960 is good,

00:11:09.340 but the court dismissed that.

00:11:11.720 Here, I'm going to read

00:11:12.160 from this ruling.

00:11:12.720 I can't top this ruling.

00:11:14.740 Paragraph 44.

00:11:15.340 The respondent,

00:11:17.520 that's the government,

00:11:18.760 proffered the expert evidence

00:11:20.380 of Dr. Kajander,

00:11:22.300 an expert in math pedagogy,

00:11:24.820 who deposes

00:11:25.620 that there is a correlation

00:11:27.000 between teacher competence

00:11:28.820 and confidence in math

00:11:30.980 and student performance.

00:11:31.900 You think?

00:11:33.240 She testified on cross-examination

00:11:35.140 that it is highly desirable

00:11:36.920 to offer more mathematics content

00:11:39.140 in a B.Ed program

00:11:40.700 because the additional support

00:11:42.480 in terms of education

00:11:43.660 and training

00:11:44.480 is the real key

00:11:45.600 to improving

00:11:46.320 teachers' math competence.

00:11:48.380 Dr. Kajander notes

00:11:49.360 that not all universities

00:11:50.880 had or have math courses.

00:11:53.260 She deposes that

00:11:53.960 a key benefit of the MPT,

00:11:55.480 that's the math test,

00:11:56.540 is that it encourages

00:11:57.660 math-avoidant

00:11:59.680 teacher candidates

00:12:01.420 to sign up

00:12:02.200 for a mathematics course,

00:12:04.080 whereas they would

00:12:04.940 simply avoid

00:12:06.320 taking math courses

00:12:07.840 altogether

00:12:08.280 if there were not a bar

00:12:09.940 at the end

00:12:10.520 of the teacher's

00:12:11.180 certification process.

00:12:14.300 Could you imagine?

00:12:15.700 Math-avoidant teachers

00:12:17.360 are going to be

00:12:18.120 your kid's math teacher.

00:12:21.120 It sounds sort of reasonable

00:12:22.440 to make them

00:12:23.440 take a math test,

00:12:25.320 which is why

00:12:26.400 the judges ignored it.

00:12:27.380 They care more

00:12:28.060 about being woke

00:12:29.280 than learning math.

00:12:31.600 I'm not kidding.

00:12:32.320 That's what they say.

00:12:34.660 The literature review

00:12:36.120 found evidence

00:12:37.120 that mandatory

00:12:38.260 teacher competency

00:12:39.740 testing

00:12:40.320 impacts the teacher

00:12:41.880 workforce pipeline.

00:12:43.920 I would hope so.

00:12:45.140 Workforce,

00:12:46.000 teacher training,

00:12:46.940 and the diversity

00:12:47.660 of the teacher population.

00:12:49.780 The literature review

00:12:51.060 cited various studies

00:12:53.560 conducted over the past

00:12:54.560 20 years

00:12:55.140 which found that

00:12:56.480 mandatory standardized

00:12:57.560 teacher testing

00:12:58.940 has a, quote,

00:12:59.780 serious impact

00:13:00.760 on racial diversity

00:13:02.280 within the teacher pool

00:13:03.640 as follows.

00:13:05.380 Multiple studies

00:13:06.500 have found that

00:13:07.080 the pass rates

00:13:07.820 on common standardized

00:13:09.040 teacher competency tests

00:13:10.580 are significantly lower

00:13:12.140 for people of color

00:13:13.400 than for white applicants.

00:13:16.540 Black and Latinx

00:13:18.400 teacher candidates

00:13:19.500 are much more likely

00:13:21.200 to fail standardized

00:13:22.100 teacher tests

00:13:22.880 than their white peers.

00:13:24.400 The U.S.

00:13:26.140 Praxis test

00:13:26.940 is more than

00:13:28.100 any other criterion

00:13:28.940 single-handedly

00:13:29.680 reducing the number

00:13:30.500 of minorities

00:13:31.400 who enter the teaching

00:13:32.340 profession.

00:13:34.020 It goes on.

00:13:35.600 You know it's bad

00:13:36.780 when Canadian judges

00:13:37.900 are using the word

00:13:38.820 Latinx.

00:13:40.620 You know that's not

00:13:41.360 a real word, right?

00:13:42.240 No real Latino 1.00

00:13:43.600 uses that word.

00:13:45.740 That's white leftists.

00:13:47.840 That's not even a thing

00:13:48.980 up here in Canada.

00:13:50.000 And although I sympathize

00:13:52.020 with people

00:13:52.440 who don't know math,

00:13:54.960 maybe they shouldn't

00:13:56.440 be teachers that.

00:13:58.840 But mainly,

00:13:59.640 isn't it a bit racist

00:14:00.900 to say that minorities

00:14:03.100 aren't good at math

00:14:04.560 and to try and prove it

00:14:06.200 mathematically

00:14:06.740 and to make broad-brush

00:14:08.000 judgments

00:14:08.480 about whole races?

00:14:09.740 Isn't that exactly

00:14:11.800 what racists

00:14:12.820 say?

00:14:13.700 Racists on the other side

00:14:14.640 I mean.

00:14:15.560 Like white supremacists

00:14:16.640 who might say

00:14:17.180 that minorities are dumb. 1.00

00:14:18.240 It reminds me of this

00:14:20.000 amazing Ryan Long sketch.

00:14:22.700 Let me play just a minute

00:14:23.820 of this to you.

00:14:24.280 It's amazing.

00:14:25.100 When me and Brad

00:14:25.600 first met,

00:14:26.080 I didn't think we'd get along

00:14:27.220 but turns out we kind of

00:14:28.200 agree on everything.

00:14:29.140 Your racial identity

00:14:29.820 is the most important thing.

00:14:31.100 Everything should be looked at

00:14:31.900 through the lens of race.

00:14:32.840 Jinx, you owe me a Coke. 0.99

00:14:33.920 We both have a lot of opinions

00:14:35.240 about people of color

00:14:36.060 even though we barely know any.

00:14:37.260 I say colored people 0.93

00:14:38.140 but as long as we're

00:14:39.060 classifying them,

00:14:39.900 we both think minorities

00:14:40.820 are a united group

00:14:41.800 who think the same

00:14:42.420 and act the same.

00:14:43.240 And both the same.

00:14:44.140 You don't want to lose

00:14:44.600 your black card.

00:14:45.360 Sorry, I don't know.

00:14:45.980 I just think we should

00:14:46.600 roll back discrimination law

00:14:47.720 so we can hire

00:14:48.220 based on race against Jinx.

00:14:49.300 Now you owe me a Coke.

00:14:50.560 Hey, tell them what

00:14:51.020 you told me yesterday.

00:14:52.060 White actors should only 1.00

00:14:53.140 do voices for white 0.86

00:14:54.040 cartoon characters.

00:14:54.900 I've been saying that

00:14:55.280 for years.

00:14:55.760 Stick to your own.

00:14:56.580 Us white people,

00:14:57.320 we have so much privilege.

00:14:58.620 I agree.

00:14:59.160 It is a privilege to be white. 0.85

00:15:00.460 Ask him about interracial dating.

00:15:01.860 All I said is that

00:15:02.600 black men who date

00:15:03.440 white women have 1.00

00:15:04.100 internalized racism

00:15:05.020 and white men that date

00:15:06.060 ethnic women are fetishizing them. 1.00

00:15:07.640 Guys against interracial dating now.

00:15:09.100 Like, am I being pranked?

00:15:10.120 Did Boomer put you up to this?

00:15:12.120 Ugh, you know that taco place

00:15:13.220 is white-owned?

00:15:14.180 White people should be making 1.00

00:15:14.940 white foods like

00:15:15.780 Kraft macaroni and cheese.

00:15:16.780 No seasoning.

00:15:17.500 Not even salt.

00:15:18.360 It's like he's a mind reader.

00:15:19.320 I mean, I've been pushing

00:15:19.880 for segregation forever

00:15:20.900 and my man does what?

00:15:22.200 I created an improv comedy show

00:15:23.760 exclusively for ethnic people.

00:15:25.100 Guy segregates comedy

00:15:26.160 on my birthday.

00:15:27.320 White people need to 1.00

00:15:27.920 stop wearing dreadlocks

00:15:28.940 and they need to stop

00:15:29.760 appropriating black people's music.

00:15:31.380 Shaved heads and country music

00:15:32.600 the way God intended.

00:15:33.900 You know all white people 1.00

00:15:34.860 are racist. 0.84

00:15:35.440 I'm listening.

00:15:36.420 Even if you have a black wife 0.99

00:15:37.700 or a black friend group,

00:15:38.800 you're still really racist.

00:15:40.060 You know we just kicked a guy 0.66

00:15:40.780 out of the organization

00:15:41.500 for having a black girlfriend,

00:15:42.500 but if you can promise me

00:15:43.480 he's still really racist,

00:15:44.580 we'll consider letting him back in.

00:15:45.740 Black people should only 1.00

00:15:46.720 shop at black businesses.

00:15:48.260 I guess the only thing

00:15:48.900 we really disagree about

00:15:49.800 is I think white people

00:15:50.840 are the root of all evil.

00:15:51.900 But what did I tell you though?

00:15:52.860 If we can narrow that down

00:15:53.780 to a certain group of tiny-headed 0.88

00:15:55.080 white people,

00:15:55.600 I think we can come

00:15:56.580 to an understanding.

00:15:57.760 Technically, I don't consider

00:15:58.880 Jewish people white because- 0.77

00:15:59.700 Neither do I.

00:16:01.540 Yeah.

00:16:02.400 Look, I appreciate the reference

00:16:04.440 to Latino folks

00:16:05.700 and to black people,

00:16:07.200 and I love people

00:16:08.360 from every background,

00:16:09.180 and I think it's great

00:16:09.840 that there are teachers

00:16:10.480 from every background.

00:16:11.160 But you notice

00:16:12.000 I didn't mention

00:16:12.560 Chinese Canadians

00:16:13.500 or Indo-Canadians,

00:16:15.740 and I don't want

00:16:16.560 to focus on race,

00:16:17.360 but I think that's

00:16:18.520 what's going on here.

00:16:19.380 I think this whole court case

00:16:20.380 is racist, frankly.

00:16:22.400 So not to stereotype,

00:16:24.800 but aren't folks,

00:16:26.600 you know,

00:16:26.860 Chinese Canadians

00:16:27.580 and Indo-Canadians?

00:16:28.520 I don't want to stereotype,

00:16:30.060 but in general,

00:16:31.200 aren't they pretty good

00:16:31.880 at math?

00:16:32.640 I don't want to judge people

00:16:33.800 based on race,

00:16:34.960 but that's sort of

00:16:36.020 what the courts are doing.

00:16:37.460 Let me read more here.

00:16:40.800 This is from the ruling.

00:16:43.100 The results of the first

00:16:44.460 administration of the MPT,

00:16:46.220 that's the math test,

00:16:46.900 showed similar results.

00:16:48.140 The pass rate

00:16:49.280 of black teacher candidates

00:16:50.940 is 70.3%,

00:16:53.500 as compared to the pass rate

00:16:54.860 of white teacher candidates

00:16:56.040 of 90.5%.

00:16:58.340 The pass rate

00:16:59.360 of indigenous teacher candidates

00:17:00.780 was 71.43%.

00:17:02.920 Put more starkly,

00:17:04.760 the failure rate

00:17:05.620 of black or indigenous

00:17:06.640 teacher candidates

00:17:07.740 to white teacher candidates

00:17:08.940 was three to one.

00:17:10.780 It is also worth noting

00:17:11.900 that test takers

00:17:13.660 were disproportionately white

00:17:15.420 at 62.8%,

00:17:16.960 as compared to 5.9%

00:17:19.440 of test takers

00:17:20.440 who were black.

00:17:21.800 Three,

00:17:22.400 there were more than

00:17:23.500 10 times as many

00:17:24.600 white test takers

00:17:25.620 as black.

00:17:26.960 Less than half a percent

00:17:27.900 of test takers

00:17:28.660 were indigenous.

00:17:30.640 They are so obsessed

00:17:32.040 with race,

00:17:32.560 this is really,

00:17:33.180 really gross.

00:17:34.060 But what I take away

00:17:34.900 from this is 70%

00:17:35.960 of black teachers

00:17:36.960 are passing the math test

00:17:38.340 and 90% of white teachers

00:17:39.860 do too.

00:17:41.300 And by the way,

00:17:41.900 people can keep

00:17:43.020 taking the tests

00:17:44.200 again and again

00:17:44.920 so they can improve.

00:17:46.960 So most people

00:17:48.880 of all races pass

00:17:51.260 if you care about this.

00:17:52.960 So this isn't really

00:17:53.720 blocking a lot of people

00:17:55.980 and maybe they should

00:17:58.000 get better at math

00:17:59.700 if they want to teach math.

00:18:01.220 And by the way,

00:18:01.940 why don't they mention

00:18:02.840 Chinese,

00:18:03.420 Canadian,

00:18:03.760 or Indo-Canadian?

00:18:05.700 But the judges said,

00:18:06.840 no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:18:09.100 Only 70% of blacks

00:18:10.580 passing,

00:18:11.020 got to be a racist test.

00:18:12.720 I'll read one more

00:18:13.560 chapter.

00:18:15.840 Perhaps more significantly,

00:18:17.440 a larger proportion

00:18:18.240 of candidates,

00:18:19.040 259,

00:18:20.080 did not retake the test.

00:18:21.900 There is no data

00:18:23.080 about those candidates.

00:18:24.560 There is no breakdown

00:18:25.620 by racial group

00:18:26.500 or otherwise.

00:18:27.340 That leaves more than

00:18:28.380 half of the teacher

00:18:30.120 candidates who participated

00:18:30.840 in the first administration

00:18:32.800 of the math test

00:18:34.060 unaccounted for.

00:18:36.100 Since there is

00:18:36.520 over-representation

00:18:37.660 in black and indigenous

00:18:38.520 teacher candidates

00:18:39.600 who were unsuccessful

00:18:41.660 on their first attempt

00:18:42.580 at the NPT,

00:18:43.640 it is likely

00:18:44.540 that a non-negligible

00:18:46.520 proportion of the black

00:18:48.020 and indigenous candidates

00:18:49.180 are among the 259

00:18:51.100 who did not retake the test.

00:18:52.580 So the court

00:18:53.060 is just guessing here

00:18:54.020 because they don't

00:18:54.500 have the information,

00:18:55.540 but they're looking

00:18:56.000 at the world

00:18:56.300 through their racist glasses.

00:18:57.320 So some people chose

00:18:58.660 not to take the math test again.

00:19:00.140 Some teachers failed it

00:19:01.440 and didn't want

00:19:01.980 to take it again.

00:19:02.980 They couldn't be bothered

00:19:04.160 to study or try again.

00:19:05.840 Maybe they found

00:19:06.380 a better job,

00:19:07.540 something else

00:19:08.560 more suited to them,

00:19:10.520 something with less math

00:19:11.620 in it than being,

00:19:12.520 you know,

00:19:12.700 a teacher,

00:19:13.980 whatever.

00:19:14.660 How is that bad?

00:19:16.020 But this is just racist.

00:19:18.720 What this court,

00:19:19.500 a real court

00:19:20.200 with real judges did

00:19:21.520 was say the hurt feelings

00:19:24.340 of teachers

00:19:25.020 who couldn't be bothered

00:19:26.580 to study for a math test

00:19:28.020 before they become teachers.

00:19:30.140 their hurt feelings

00:19:31.520 comes ahead of the interest

00:19:33.660 of students of any race.

00:19:36.520 Which is more important

00:19:37.740 that students of any race,

00:19:40.740 of every race,

00:19:42.260 get good math instruction

00:19:43.420 from a great teacher,

00:19:45.220 including black students,

00:19:46.600 by the way?

00:19:47.600 Or is it more important

00:19:48.560 that teachers

00:19:49.240 get to feel good

00:19:50.560 even if they're crappy at math?

00:19:52.900 They're awful teachers

00:19:54.020 to children of every race,

00:19:56.120 including black kids,

00:19:57.100 but they feel good.

00:19:57.860 You know,

00:19:59.520 I'd like to ask

00:20:00.360 some black moms and dads,

00:20:02.480 some indigenous moms and dads,

00:20:04.400 is it more important

00:20:05.720 to you

00:20:06.380 that your kids learn math

00:20:08.720 from someone

00:20:10.120 who's great at math,

00:20:11.400 no matter what the race

00:20:12.260 of the teacher is,

00:20:13.440 or is it more important

00:20:14.480 to you

00:20:14.940 to have

00:20:15.880 a very specific race

00:20:17.880 of teacher

00:20:19.180 teach your kid

00:20:20.280 even if they don't know math?

00:20:22.540 Well, if those First Nations 0.87

00:20:25.440 leaders in BC

00:20:26.600 are anything to go by,

00:20:27.960 I think parents

00:20:28.620 of every race

00:20:29.860 would choose

00:20:31.040 the best teacher,

00:20:32.040 and they

00:20:32.460 are the real losers

00:20:34.300 in this atrocious

00:20:36.040 court case.

00:20:37.720 Stay with us for more.

00:20:40.920 Welcome back.

00:20:41.680 Well, we certainly talk

00:20:42.480 about the pandemic a lot.

00:20:44.200 I believe that

00:20:44.840 the civil liberties crisis

00:20:46.380 we're in

00:20:46.920 is the story of the age.

00:20:48.520 my monologue earlier

00:20:50.760 about woke math.

00:20:53.240 I guess that's a

00:20:54.520 long-term story too,

00:20:56.020 but we can't forget

00:20:57.200 about the regular stuff,

00:20:58.960 the folks that,

00:21:00.060 I guess,

00:21:00.500 matters to most people

00:21:01.520 who are not

00:21:02.040 as focused on politics

00:21:03.640 as we are.

00:21:05.040 I mean,

00:21:05.220 we talk about politics

00:21:06.100 all day long.

00:21:06.940 Most people are just out there

00:21:08.160 trying to earn a living,

00:21:08.980 pay the bills,

00:21:10.060 get their kids through school,

00:21:10.960 put bread on the table,

00:21:12.480 and while we're focused

00:21:13.920 on these political distractions,

00:21:16.860 the civil liberties matter,

00:21:17.880 the woke math in schools.

00:21:20.760 Well, the government

00:21:21.420 is getting away with murder

00:21:23.580 on the financial side.

00:21:25.440 Here's the latest release

00:21:26.460 by our friends

00:21:27.080 at the Canadian

00:21:27.500 Taxpayers Federation.

00:21:28.660 It's entitled

00:21:29.220 Federal Ministers' Priorities

00:21:31.580 Out of Touch

00:21:32.820 with Financial Reality,

00:21:34.300 and it's written

00:21:34.740 by Franco Teresano,

00:21:36.280 the federal director

00:21:37.240 of the Canadian

00:21:37.780 Taxpayers Federation,

00:21:39.180 who joins us now.

00:21:40.560 Bye, Escape Franco.

00:21:41.300 Great to see you again.

00:21:42.140 Thanks for joining us.

00:21:43.440 Sum up for me

00:21:44.360 the main point

00:21:45.840 of your new essay,

00:21:46.900 federal ministers' priorities

00:21:48.520 out of touch

00:21:49.060 with financial reality.

00:21:50.440 What are their priorities?

00:21:52.060 Can you,

00:21:52.540 let's start with that.

00:21:53.660 What is the top priority

00:21:55.340 of the Liberal government?

00:21:56.560 Can you discern it?

00:21:57.940 Well, that's a great question,

00:21:59.380 and it's certainly not

00:22:00.420 getting a spending

00:22:01.740 under control.

00:22:03.060 I mean,

00:22:03.420 Ottawa's priorities

00:22:04.460 are completely divorced

00:22:06.060 from financial reality

00:22:07.420 and really the hardships

00:22:08.720 facing so many

00:22:09.700 Canadian families

00:22:10.560 outside of Ottawa.

00:22:11.860 Here's a perfect example.

00:22:13.360 You have the finance minister,

00:22:14.820 Chrystia Freeland, 0.88

00:22:15.920 who is borrowing

00:22:16.700 nearly half a billion dollars

00:22:18.980 every single day,

00:22:20.560 but Trudeau's mandate letter

00:22:22.140 to the finance minister

00:22:23.180 doesn't even mention

00:22:24.400 the debt or the deficit.

00:22:26.200 Now,

00:22:26.440 that should be a pretty key priority

00:22:28.020 for a finance minister,

00:22:29.580 don't you think?

00:22:30.360 So,

00:22:30.860 us taxpayers,

00:22:32.040 we're just left here

00:22:32.880 scratching our heads,

00:22:34.160 wondering if anyone

00:22:35.180 in the Trudeau government

00:22:36.580 is even thinking about

00:22:37.700 the $1 trillion debt.

00:22:39.960 Yeah,

00:22:40.120 and I read the other day,

00:22:40.880 and I didn't take the time

00:22:41.880 to check it,

00:22:42.340 but I heard that her mandate letter,

00:22:43.680 which is sort of like

00:22:44.720 the to-do list

00:22:45.700 or the short-term job description.

00:22:48.500 So,

00:22:48.720 every cabinet minister

00:22:49.560 gets a mandate letter.

00:22:51.020 It's,

00:22:51.220 hey,

00:22:51.340 these are your priorities

00:22:52.260 for this term in parliament.

00:22:53.900 I understand the word inflation

00:22:55.400 wasn't even in there.

00:22:56.400 I saw that in the headline.

00:22:57.960 I haven't put my eyes

00:22:58.840 on the mandate letter myself.

00:23:00.220 That's pretty incredible,

00:23:01.680 but that's pretty telling.

00:23:03.420 As Trudeau said,

00:23:04.320 he doesn't even think

00:23:04.980 about monetary policy,

00:23:06.040 does he?

00:23:07.040 Well,

00:23:07.600 Ezra,

00:23:08.320 I mean,

00:23:08.700 inflation may be

00:23:09.740 the key economic issue

00:23:11.340 facing Canadian families.

00:23:12.600 It's certainly something

00:23:13.460 that I'm worried about,

00:23:14.720 right?

00:23:14.900 You go fuel up your car,

00:23:16.060 then you're worried

00:23:16.600 about whether or not

00:23:17.760 you have enough money

00:23:18.600 to buy groceries.

00:23:20.040 But what we've seen here,

00:23:21.280 we haven't seen a plan

00:23:22.640 from Ottawa

00:23:23.220 to provide a little bit

00:23:24.440 more affordability.

00:23:26.020 What we've seen

00:23:26.540 from the Trudeau government

00:23:27.400 is essentially

00:23:28.020 the prime minister

00:23:28.780 bragging about

00:23:30.120 his future carbon tax hikes.

00:23:32.040 We've already seen

00:23:32.640 the carbon tax go up twice

00:23:34.220 during the middle

00:23:34.760 of the pandemic,

00:23:35.400 and they're getting set

00:23:36.920 to hammer

00:23:37.340 or to increase

00:23:38.480 their carbon tax

00:23:39.200 for a third time

00:23:40.140 during the pandemic

00:23:41.180 next year.

00:23:42.000 You know,

00:23:43.220 I forgot about that.

00:23:44.140 I mean,

00:23:44.320 the fact that they

00:23:45.280 raise taxes

00:23:45.920 during a pandemic

00:23:47.940 is crazy.

00:23:49.360 You know,

00:23:49.760 I heard a definition

00:23:50.780 of inflation

00:23:51.480 the other day,

00:23:51.960 and I thought

00:23:52.520 it was really useful.

00:23:53.700 Inflation is a stealth tax,

00:23:55.220 and here's why.

00:23:55.820 I mean,

00:23:56.300 if you're earning

00:23:58.640 a hundred bucks,

00:24:00.840 but the cost of everything

00:24:02.040 goes up,

00:24:02.660 let's say,

00:24:03.020 five percent,

00:24:04.640 you may not have

00:24:05.560 had a pay cut.

00:24:06.920 Like,

00:24:07.400 it's really a stealth pay cut,

00:24:08.580 because now it's like

00:24:10.240 you only earned

00:24:11.140 ninety-five cents,

00:24:12.720 and the more inflation

00:24:13.900 goes up,

00:24:14.360 if you're not

00:24:14.980 getting more dollars

00:24:16.480 to keep up,

00:24:17.140 you're actually

00:24:17.520 falling behind.

00:24:19.040 I really think

00:24:21.280 that that's going

00:24:21.840 to shock Canadians

00:24:23.740 who have,

00:24:24.820 you know,

00:24:25.020 really,

00:24:25.280 we've had a whole

00:24:25.760 generation without

00:24:26.680 high inflation.

00:24:27.960 I think most people

00:24:28.800 don't know how bad

00:24:29.640 it could get,

00:24:30.480 because the last time

00:24:31.480 was really a generation

00:24:32.620 ago,

00:24:32.860 wasn't it?

00:24:34.180 Well,

00:24:34.500 Ezra,

00:24:35.260 inflation is also

00:24:36.380 taxation without

00:24:37.400 legislation,

00:24:38.420 and you have to

00:24:39.560 really wonder here

00:24:40.920 if our members

00:24:42.040 of Parliament

00:24:42.560 can even understand

00:24:43.580 the real financial

00:24:44.460 struggles facing

00:24:45.580 Canadians.

00:24:46.160 I mean,

00:24:46.320 after all,

00:24:47.180 our members of

00:24:47.920 Parliament have

00:24:48.440 pocketed not one,

00:24:49.820 but two pay raises

00:24:50.840 during the pandemic,

00:24:52.260 ranging from an

00:24:53.140 extra $6,900

00:24:54.040 for your backbench

00:24:55.620 member of Parliament,

00:24:56.560 all the way up

00:24:57.320 to an extra $13,800

00:24:59.200 for Prime Minister

00:25:00.300 Justin Trudeau.

00:25:01.300 And you know what,

00:25:01.940 Ezra?

00:25:02.160 They're getting ready

00:25:02.960 to gobble up

00:25:03.740 their third pandemic

00:25:04.740 pay raise

00:25:05.360 come April 2022.

00:25:07.480 So while you

00:25:08.560 and yours

00:25:09.020 have been struggling,

00:25:09.900 the private sector,

00:25:10.820 massive pay cuts,

00:25:12.080 job losses,

00:25:12.780 small businesses

00:25:13.340 closing down,

00:25:14.440 your supposed

00:25:15.100 representative in

00:25:16.420 Ottawa has been

00:25:17.460 over there

00:25:18.000 increasing their

00:25:18.780 own pay.

00:25:19.940 You know,

00:25:20.780 I remember,

00:25:22.000 I mean,

00:25:22.780 it's pretty gross,

00:25:23.760 and if I recall,

00:25:24.360 it's on April Fool's

00:25:25.320 Day that they get

00:25:26.520 those pay raises,

00:25:27.360 which is just so

00:25:28.360 on the nose.

00:25:29.060 It's too much.

00:25:30.000 If this was a

00:25:30.560 Hollywood script,

00:25:31.260 you know,

00:25:32.620 the agent would

00:25:33.160 say,

00:25:33.420 no,

00:25:33.720 that's too,

00:25:34.180 the studio,

00:25:34.840 no,

00:25:35.200 on April Fool's Day,

00:25:36.020 that's too much.

00:25:37.780 But to have their pay

00:25:38.920 raise on April Fool's Day

00:25:39.940 is quite something.

00:25:40.560 And every year

00:25:44.580 it's just appalling.

00:25:45.620 But let me ask you

00:25:46.260 about something I saw

00:25:46.940 in the United States

00:25:47.700 because for all

00:25:49.680 of their flaws,

00:25:50.740 they seem to have

00:25:52.260 the checks and balances

00:25:53.240 thing down pat.

00:25:54.440 You know,

00:25:54.700 Trudeau uses the phrase

00:25:55.820 build back better.

00:25:58.380 That's,

00:25:58.800 and Boris Johnson

00:26:00.880 in the United Kingdom

00:26:02.140 says build back better.

00:26:04.960 And of course,

00:26:05.860 Joe Biden says

00:26:06.840 build back better.

00:26:07.580 I don't know

00:26:08.560 where this slogan

00:26:09.880 comes from.

00:26:10.460 It's just another way

00:26:11.240 of saying spend

00:26:12.580 like you've never

00:26:13.200 spent before.

00:26:14.220 But the amazing thing,

00:26:16.300 and I'd love for you

00:26:17.020 to comment on this,

00:26:18.380 is it looks like

00:26:19.420 Biden's build back

00:26:21.520 better multi-trillion

00:26:23.440 dollar spending plan

00:26:24.920 was stopped

00:26:26.560 not by a Republican,

00:26:29.420 but by a cautious

00:26:30.920 moderate Democrat

00:26:32.120 from West Virginia

00:26:33.040 named Joe Manchin

00:26:33.960 who simply said,

00:26:35.400 nah,

00:26:35.540 it's too much,

00:26:36.400 it's too out of hand,

00:26:37.540 I'm not in.

00:26:39.100 And so a Democrat

00:26:40.360 stopped the runaway train

00:26:42.860 and here we are

00:26:43.900 in Canada

00:26:44.480 with our build back

00:26:45.600 better overspending.

00:26:47.500 Even though

00:26:48.400 the Democrats

00:26:49.160 won the presidential election,

00:26:52.160 so they got

00:26:53.860 a much higher percentage

00:26:54.820 of the vote

00:26:55.160 than Trudeau got,

00:26:56.640 they have more checks

00:26:57.940 and balances

00:26:58.420 on their crazy spending

00:26:59.380 than we do.

00:27:00.000 I find that's a paradox.

00:27:02.580 Well, Ezra,

00:27:03.260 one of the key problems

00:27:04.200 that we're facing

00:27:04.840 here in Canada

00:27:05.540 is that you do have

00:27:06.820 the Trudeau government

00:27:07.620 on this runaway spending train,

00:27:09.440 but you also have

00:27:10.520 Conservative Party leader

00:27:11.860 Aaron O'Toole

00:27:12.640 who also wants to be

00:27:13.940 on that runaway spending train.

00:27:15.860 Remember,

00:27:16.500 he just spent

00:27:17.140 the last election

00:27:18.160 telling voters

00:27:19.200 that he wanted

00:27:20.200 to outspend

00:27:21.120 the last Liberal government

00:27:22.320 budget

00:27:22.740 by about

00:27:23.560 $50 billion.

00:27:25.440 So massive

00:27:26.240 amounts of spending

00:27:27.280 coming from

00:27:28.020 even Conservative Party leader

00:27:29.420 Aaron O'Toole.

00:27:30.020 And, you know,

00:27:31.040 inflation rising gas prices

00:27:33.000 is really one

00:27:33.980 of the key economic issues

00:27:35.080 facing Canadian families.

00:27:36.540 Well, what's

00:27:36.940 Aaron O'Toole's plan

00:27:38.160 to stop rising gas prices?

00:27:40.100 Well, remember,

00:27:40.800 he wants to put in

00:27:41.760 a carbon tax of his own.

00:27:43.240 So we're looking here

00:27:44.520 wondering who in Ottawa

00:27:45.720 is going to stick up

00:27:46.960 for taxpayers

00:27:47.560 and stop this runaway train.

00:27:49.840 You know what, Franco,

00:27:50.660 I got to tell you,

00:27:51.300 that's the favorite thing

00:27:52.560 you've said

00:27:53.200 in today's interview.

00:27:54.140 It shows

00:27:55.360 that you guys

00:27:56.260 are truly nonpartisan,

00:27:58.180 that you call it

00:27:58.820 like you see it.

00:27:59.380 I share your point of view.

00:28:00.740 I'm frustrated

00:28:01.420 by Aaron O'Toole

00:28:02.400 and to hear you guys

00:28:03.760 and you don't play favorites.

00:28:05.160 You call it

00:28:05.820 like you see it.

00:28:06.820 If even on occasion

00:28:08.120 when there's been

00:28:08.720 Liberals and even

00:28:09.340 New Democrats

00:28:10.000 who've pumped

00:28:10.820 the brakes on spending,

00:28:11.760 I've heard you

00:28:12.720 and your predecessors

00:28:13.640 give credit where it's due.

00:28:16.000 So I'm really glad

00:28:16.660 and I hope you keep at it

00:28:18.200 because I don't think

00:28:19.520 Trudeau

00:28:20.220 can be changed on this.

00:28:22.460 I think spending

00:28:23.560 and borrowing

00:28:24.040 and taxing

00:28:24.660 are in his blood.

00:28:25.280 He literally inherited it

00:28:26.280 from his dad.

00:28:27.300 But I think there's enough

00:28:28.300 good backbenchers

00:28:29.360 in the Conservative Party

00:28:30.360 who are saying,

00:28:31.060 what are we doing?

00:28:32.620 Why are we in support

00:28:33.840 of this carbon levy?

00:28:35.420 Why are we

00:28:36.240 spending?

00:28:37.240 I'm hoping that

00:28:38.320 the likes of Pierre Polyev

00:28:40.100 and some more

00:28:41.540 grumbling backbenchers

00:28:42.960 will get O'Toole

00:28:44.080 to pump the brakes.

00:28:45.100 Do you talk

00:28:46.040 to Conservative MPs

00:28:47.700 or Senators

00:28:48.340 on background?

00:28:49.800 I mean,

00:28:49.960 do you hear,

00:28:51.360 and don't name any names

00:28:53.180 if it was a private conversation,

00:28:55.440 but do you hear

00:28:56.340 any rumbles

00:28:57.220 in the Conservative caucus

00:28:58.580 that maybe they need

00:28:59.800 to pull their party

00:29:01.140 back from the red Tory

00:29:02.340 bent it's on right now?

00:29:04.840 Well, Ezra,

00:29:05.680 I mean,

00:29:05.980 we're willing to talk

00:29:07.020 to anyone

00:29:08.220 in any party

00:29:08.940 that's willing

00:29:09.460 to save taxpayers

00:29:10.400 some money

00:29:10.860 and who's worried

00:29:11.820 about the debt.

00:29:12.580 And there's one thing

00:29:13.500 that we've heard

00:29:14.120 from cross-party aisles,

00:29:15.380 or at least we think

00:29:16.300 that every single party

00:29:17.520 should be worried about,

00:29:18.640 and Ezra,

00:29:19.140 that's debt interest costs.

00:29:20.640 We just got

00:29:21.280 the recent budget update

00:29:22.460 from Finance Minister

00:29:23.640 Chrystia Freeland, 0.88

00:29:24.540 and between now

00:29:25.500 and 2027,

00:29:26.880 only a few years,

00:29:28.100 debt interest costs

00:29:29.040 are going to cost taxpayers

00:29:30.340 nearly $200 billion.

00:29:32.860 And Ezra,

00:29:33.480 as you know,

00:29:34.260 that's nearly $200 billion

00:29:35.480 that can't go

00:29:36.500 to hire more nurses. 0.92

00:29:37.700 It can't go

00:29:38.420 to lower taxes

00:29:39.180 because it's going

00:29:39.840 to the bond fund managers

00:29:41.120 on Bay Street.

00:29:42.980 Yeah,

00:29:43.120 and if interest rates

00:29:44.100 go up,

00:29:44.660 that's terrifying.

00:29:45.560 Well, listen,

00:29:45.840 Franco,

00:29:46.100 great to see you again.

00:29:47.400 You're one of the good guys.

00:29:48.400 You don't take a dime

00:29:49.460 in government money

00:29:50.380 and it shows.

00:29:51.480 Keep up the fight

00:29:52.260 and we look forward

00:29:52.880 to the next update from you.

00:29:54.820 Hey,

00:29:55.120 thanks for having me on today.

00:29:56.280 All right,

00:29:56.680 anytime.

00:29:57.140 There you have it.

00:29:57.560 Franco Teresano

00:29:58.280 is one of the good guys

00:29:59.180 with the Canadian

00:30:00.260 Taxpayers Federation.

00:30:01.580 I'd encourage you

00:30:02.260 to check them out.

00:30:03.780 Stay with us.

00:30:04.380 More ahead.

00:30:13.060 Hey,

00:30:13.660 welcome back.

00:30:14.360 Your viewer feedback.

00:30:15.680 Someone with the nickname

00:30:16.500 Sacred Shaman says,

00:30:18.140 Mainstream media

00:30:19.660 have to attack

00:30:20.860 Rebel News

00:30:21.340 because someone

00:30:22.040 telling the truth

00:30:22.720 shows them up

00:30:23.340 and more people

00:30:24.520 are learning

00:30:24.960 how corrupt

00:30:25.540 the whole system is.

00:30:27.140 David is one

00:30:27.640 of the best reporters

00:30:28.640 Rebel has

00:30:29.280 and miles ahead

00:30:30.340 of anyone

00:30:30.680 in the mainstream media.

00:30:31.880 Hope David is okay

00:30:32.740 and hope Trudeau

00:30:33.680 and his thugs

00:30:34.460 are dealt with severely.

00:30:35.260 I'm stunned

00:30:38.320 at the silence

00:30:38.920 of the world.

00:30:40.060 One MP,

00:30:40.880 John Williamson,

00:30:41.540 spoke out.

00:30:41.980 I'm grateful to him.

00:30:43.900 Where's the other

00:30:44.380 337 MPs

00:30:45.820 including the other

00:30:47.000 118 conservatives?

00:30:48.460 Silence.

00:30:49.500 Why?

00:30:50.280 That's gross.

00:30:51.900 Where's the rest

00:30:52.480 of the media?

00:30:53.860 A couple of media,

00:30:55.120 I've got to give him credit,

00:30:57.540 Carleen Nation

00:30:58.340 and Richard Surrett,

00:31:00.000 radio hosts

00:31:01.060 in Mississauga,

00:31:02.240 talked to us about it.

00:31:03.600 The rest of the media

00:31:04.320 were silent

00:31:05.000 or cheered on

00:31:06.680 Trudeau's thugs

00:31:07.460 like David Akin

00:31:08.420 and Terry Glavin.

00:31:09.720 Very, very bad.

00:31:12.000 Thomas Gordery says,

00:31:13.580 reading David Akin's tweets,

00:31:15.200 one might conclude

00:31:16.440 that he believes

00:31:17.700 the police

00:31:18.160 would never detain

00:31:19.200 anyone who isn't guilty.

00:31:21.140 Strange comments.

00:31:22.320 Is that guy

00:31:22.760 a qualified journalist?

00:31:25.060 If David Menzies

00:31:26.280 were arrested

00:31:27.120 or charged

00:31:27.940 with something,

00:31:29.180 then we could weigh,

00:31:30.220 okay,

00:31:30.420 did he resist arrest?

00:31:31.620 I don't really think he did.

00:31:32.780 I mean,

00:31:33.160 he didn't fight back.

00:31:34.120 He was a 59-year-old man

00:31:36.020 with two fake hips 1.00

00:31:36.940 being wrestled

00:31:37.760 by three really fit bodyguards.

00:31:40.700 He wasn't resisting arrest.

00:31:42.180 But there was no arrest.

00:31:44.080 It's not an arrest.

00:31:46.320 It's a mugging.

00:31:48.060 There were no charges.

00:31:49.080 There was no arrest.

00:31:49.840 He was not detained.

00:31:50.740 He was just beat up.

00:31:52.700 So we can't set off

00:31:54.620 what happened to him

00:31:56.160 with some accusation

00:31:57.380 against him.

00:31:58.700 It was a hit and run.

00:32:00.700 And those cowardly cops

00:32:02.000 didn't even give their name.

00:32:02.940 We're going to court.

00:32:03.760 Go to standwithdavid.com

00:32:04.920 if you want to read our lawsuit.

00:32:06.160 It's only 10 pages long.

00:32:09.200 Mona Hill says,

00:32:10.200 David Akin hasn't reported

00:32:11.740 much of the news.

00:32:12.980 He sends out birthday announcements

00:32:14.520 and spews government

00:32:15.880 talking points.

00:32:17.080 He's not the same reporter

00:32:18.180 he used to be.

00:32:19.140 He's now a Trudeau cheerleader.

00:32:21.460 I was trying to understand

00:32:22.460 what was going on,

00:32:23.380 and I think it came back

00:32:24.680 to something that

00:32:25.940 Mocha Beziergan,

00:32:26.900 our videographer,

00:32:27.720 who I think was in B.C.,

00:32:30.500 saw that an indigenous protest

00:32:33.860 stopped Trudeau's tour bus

00:32:35.860 for half an hour from going.

00:32:38.120 And it was incredible,

00:32:39.780 and Mocha showed it,

00:32:41.780 and yet no one

00:32:43.340 in the mainstream media

00:32:44.280 reported it.

00:32:45.120 David Akin was in the bus

00:32:48.120 that was stopped

00:32:49.200 for half an hour.

00:32:50.100 Now, do you think

00:32:51.940 that if a conservative party bus

00:32:54.760 was stopped for half an hour

00:32:56.740 by indigenous folks

00:32:58.580 who had a quarrel,

00:33:00.140 you don't think that would be

00:33:01.200 top of the news?

00:33:02.760 But all the media party

00:33:04.360 86'd that story

00:33:06.400 because they're bought

00:33:09.160 and paid for by Trudeau.

00:33:10.280 You tell me a different reason.

00:33:11.980 But Mocha was there,

00:33:13.220 and he ran the story,

00:33:14.740 and he proved David

00:33:15.640 and the other media party

00:33:17.740 journalists on the bus

00:33:18.520 to be liars.

00:33:19.180 And I think that

00:33:20.240 from the election

00:33:21.700 a few months ago

00:33:22.560 is what made David Akin

00:33:24.320 have it in for Rebel News

00:33:25.760 because Mocha Basirgun, 0.63

00:33:27.560 our young 22-year-old videographer,

00:33:30.240 showed the truth,

00:33:31.640 and David Akin,

00:33:32.520 the senior reporter,

00:33:34.080 was shown to be

00:33:34.960 really a crony of Trudeau.

00:33:36.860 And I think that embarrassed David,

00:33:39.020 and he had his vengeance

00:33:40.240 on David.

00:33:41.820 But I don't think

00:33:42.260 his revenge was successful.

00:33:43.540 I think that

00:33:44.000 he didn't make David Menzies

00:33:46.260 look any worse.

00:33:47.680 David Akin made himself

00:33:48.680 look worse.

00:33:49.200 It's sort of like

00:33:49.700 those Westboro Baptist 0.98

00:33:51.320 church crazies

00:33:52.260 who protest at funerals.

00:33:54.940 You know,

00:33:55.180 those guys who say

00:33:56.020 God hates you

00:33:57.780 or whatever

00:33:58.320 at people's funerals.

00:33:59.780 Super, super gross.

00:34:01.120 David Akin had that same vibe

00:34:02.600 when he was cheering

00:34:03.760 for a man being beaten.

00:34:05.020 So gross.

00:34:06.660 Well, let's stop

00:34:07.480 with the grossness,

00:34:08.320 and let me leave you

00:34:09.180 with a video of the day.

00:34:10.520 This one by Tamara Ugolini.

00:34:12.300 An update from Derek Sloan,

00:34:14.160 former MP,

00:34:15.120 and now the new leader

00:34:16.300 of an Ontario political party.

00:34:18.720 Tamara will talk to him

00:34:20.340 about that.

00:34:20.900 So I'll leave you with that.

00:34:22.020 Until next time,

00:34:22.720 on behalf of all of us here

00:34:23.800 at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:34:25.380 to you at home,

00:34:25.880 good night.

00:34:26.740 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:34:28.600 My party,

00:34:29.380 federal party,

00:34:30.120 is still not approved

00:34:30.960 by Elections Canada.

00:34:32.500 So that's disappointing.

00:34:33.800 But the fact is,

00:34:34.600 is that there's always

00:34:35.360 an opportunity to fight.

00:34:36.880 And right now,

00:34:37.620 we have the next

00:34:38.760 provincial election

00:34:39.740 in the country

00:34:40.320 is going to be in Ontario

00:34:41.420 this coming June.

00:34:42.920 And it's absolutely critical

00:34:44.440 that we have,

00:34:45.920 you know,

00:34:46.420 that we're fighting

00:34:47.040 on that front.

00:34:48.460 So, you know,

00:34:49.320 I'm still in favour

00:34:50.980 of fighting for all Canadians.

00:34:52.620 The battle is right here

00:34:53.940 in Ontario right now.

00:34:55.460 And that's why I'm here

00:34:56.080 to do this.

00:34:57.660 I'm Tamara Ugolini

00:35:00.580 with Rebel News

00:35:01.720 here with former MP,

00:35:04.220 Derek Sloan.

00:35:05.340 Derek,

00:35:06.000 my first question

00:35:06.780 is a bit lengthy

00:35:08.300 because I'm going to

00:35:09.680 give our viewers

00:35:10.940 a bit of background

00:35:11.860 in terms of the political

00:35:13.740 landscape

00:35:14.180 and all of the transitions

00:35:15.120 that have happened here.

00:35:16.580 So I guess it started

00:35:18.180 when you were first removed

00:35:20.180 from Erin O'Toole's

00:35:21.380 federal conservative caucus

00:35:22.980 and under questionable

00:35:24.460 circumstances.

00:35:25.160 And in my opinion,

00:35:26.160 it was a way

00:35:28.560 for the brave

00:35:29.120 and fearless

00:35:29.680 Erin O'Toole

00:35:30.420 to remove

00:35:31.960 any sort of

00:35:32.820 strong opposition

00:35:33.920 to the Uniparty.

00:35:35.180 And so he used

00:35:37.260 this questionable

00:35:38.940 donation

00:35:39.540 and circumstance

00:35:40.640 as justification

00:35:41.940 to remove you

00:35:42.880 from his caucus.

00:35:44.500 Then you started

00:35:45.700 the federal party

00:35:46.780 True North.

00:35:47.900 That's correct.

00:35:48.440 And so you remained here

00:35:50.900 as an independent

00:35:52.060 with this new party

00:35:53.220 and then you left,

00:35:54.960 ran independently

00:35:57.060 in Alberta

00:35:58.060 in fanfare tree.

00:35:59.300 So then at that point

00:36:00.300 you lost your seat

00:36:01.100 so you're no longer

00:36:01.860 a sitting MP.

00:36:02.940 You've come back

00:36:03.660 to your original riding

00:36:04.640 and have now accepted

00:36:06.200 leadership for the

00:36:07.500 Ontario party

00:36:08.320 which was started

00:36:09.640 in 2018

00:36:10.500 and I'd never heard

00:36:11.260 of it before

00:36:11.780 but you've now accepted

00:36:13.020 the leadership of it

00:36:13.960 and you're running

00:36:15.440 provincially.

00:36:16.760 Why have you done

00:36:18.160 this political

00:36:19.220 transitioning

00:36:19.900 and what brought you

00:36:20.820 back here to Ontario

00:36:22.000 to run now

00:36:22.860 with provincially?

00:36:24.320 Yeah, that's a really

00:36:24.840 good question.

00:36:25.660 You know, the one thing

00:36:26.780 we can all agree on

00:36:27.700 is that we have a

00:36:28.520 freedom fight

00:36:29.200 on our hands

00:36:29.820 and, you know,

00:36:31.360 in any major battle

00:36:32.400 the fronts change,

00:36:34.700 the points of attack

00:36:36.160 may be different.

00:36:37.160 You could be, you know,

00:36:38.260 storming the beaches

00:36:38.960 of Normandy one day

00:36:40.300 but you're not always

00:36:41.880 fighting at the gates

00:36:42.760 of Berlin

00:36:43.300 and to borrow a

00:36:43.960 World War II,

00:36:44.740 you know, sort of

00:36:45.840 analogy.

00:36:47.100 So there's different

00:36:47.880 things that need to be done

00:36:48.800 and going out to Alberta

00:36:49.980 was the right thing

00:36:50.660 to do at that time.

00:36:52.120 We wanted to send 0.92

00:36:53.000 a message to

00:36:54.080 the Conservatives

00:36:55.240 by taking on

00:36:56.040 a major, you know,

00:36:57.880 a big wig

00:36:58.980 in the Conservative Party

00:37:00.520 and we did that

00:37:01.740 and we also were able

00:37:02.340 to tour around Alberta

00:37:03.360 and raise awareness

00:37:04.580 for the types of things

00:37:05.520 that we're fighting for.

00:37:06.620 So that was absolutely

00:37:07.320 the right thing to do.

00:37:08.920 My party,

00:37:09.620 the federal party

00:37:10.280 is still not approved

00:37:11.200 by Elections Canada

00:37:12.180 so that's disappointing

00:37:13.620 but the fact is

00:37:14.800 is that there's always

00:37:15.580 an opportunity to fight

00:37:16.740 and right now

00:37:17.760 we have the next

00:37:18.980 provincial election

00:37:19.960 in the country

00:37:20.560 is going to be in Ontario

00:37:21.640 this coming June

00:37:22.620 and it's absolutely

00:37:24.120 critical that we have,

00:37:26.160 you know,

00:37:26.680 that we're fighting

00:37:27.280 on that front.

00:37:28.720 So, you know,

00:37:29.560 I'm still in favour

00:37:31.200 of fighting for all Canadians.

00:37:33.120 The battle is right here

00:37:34.160 in Ontario right now

00:37:35.360 and that's why I'm here

00:37:36.300 to do this.

00:37:36.840 And there's been

00:37:37.980 a few other battles

00:37:38.840 started by,

00:37:39.900 you know,

00:37:40.220 obviously Jim and Belinda

00:37:42.240 Karahalios

00:37:42.840 and they've started

00:37:43.720 their own provincial party

00:37:45.360 the New Blue Ontario

00:37:46.100 and then more recently

00:37:47.340 Randy Hillier

00:37:48.080 with the Ontario First Party.

00:37:50.500 What was it about

00:37:51.100 their platform specifically

00:37:52.360 or any other reason

00:37:53.140 why you decided

00:37:54.380 not to join in with them

00:37:56.280 and build a task force

00:37:57.620 but rather come

00:37:59.940 and do your own

00:38:00.660 separate thing?

00:38:01.720 Yeah, so it's clear

00:38:02.760 that there is,

00:38:03.680 it's clear that there's

00:38:04.440 some divisions right now

00:38:05.480 in sort of the freedom movement

00:38:07.240 and my hope is that

00:38:08.780 the Ontario Party

00:38:09.600 can be a place

00:38:10.300 where all freedom fighters

00:38:11.700 can gather

00:38:12.220 whether they're,

00:38:12.920 you know,

00:38:13.220 libertarian,

00:38:13.980 socially conservative

00:38:14.820 or just a freedom fighting patriot

00:38:17.460 whatever they want

00:38:18.200 to call themselves.

00:38:19.420 My hope is the Ontario Party

00:38:20.520 can be that.

00:38:21.600 I, of course,

00:38:22.160 respect Belinda,

00:38:23.940 Jim,

00:38:24.840 Randy,

00:38:25.620 all of these people

00:38:26.340 for their freedom fighting

00:38:27.260 and, you know,

00:38:29.400 politics can sometimes

00:38:30.400 be complicated

00:38:31.180 and it's easy

00:38:33.280 perhaps for

00:38:34.160 someone on the outside

00:38:34.960 to say, you know,

00:38:35.560 why can't everybody

00:38:36.120 just work together?

00:38:37.760 But unfortunately

00:38:38.680 there are some divisions there

00:38:40.460 and I hope that this party

00:38:41.480 could perhaps be

00:38:42.360 a neutral point

00:38:43.300 where everybody

00:38:44.240 can come together

00:38:44.940 and work out their differences

00:38:45.920 and work together.

00:38:46.940 So that's my hope

00:38:48.040 and I hope that I can

00:38:49.580 help to facilitate that.

00:38:51.200 I would also say that,

00:38:53.360 you know,

00:38:53.580 from the perspective

00:38:54.320 of my own fight

00:38:56.480 in this battle,

00:38:57.500 you know,

00:38:58.000 it's very clear

00:38:58.600 where I stand.

00:38:59.620 I have, you know,

00:39:00.600 a perfect track record

00:39:01.540 when it comes to voting

00:39:02.380 against a lot of

00:39:03.040 the socialist trends

00:39:03.900 that we're seeing

00:39:04.460 and people know

00:39:05.640 who I am

00:39:06.160 and they know

00:39:06.500 where I stand

00:39:07.160 and I can be counted on,

00:39:09.080 I hope,

00:39:09.820 to be a leader

00:39:11.560 in this movement.

00:39:12.860 Was there anything

00:39:13.420 specifically though

00:39:14.200 in their platforms

00:39:14.880 that you disagreed with

00:39:16.120 or why you decided

00:39:17.440 not to join in

00:39:19.340 on one of those parties?

00:39:21.180 Yeah, so initially

00:39:22.100 I had intended to,

00:39:23.580 you know,

00:39:24.220 support the freedom movement here.

00:39:25.880 I hadn't intended

00:39:26.480 to be actually involved

00:39:27.940 as the leader of a party,

00:39:28.880 but it became clear

00:39:30.440 that various kind of

00:39:31.940 movements and factions

00:39:33.040 were not,

00:39:34.020 you know,

00:39:35.620 satisfied with the status quo

00:39:37.200 and they wanted,

00:39:38.560 you know,

00:39:38.820 they wanted a movement

00:39:39.540 that was,

00:39:40.260 you know,

00:39:40.660 definitively pro-family,

00:39:42.400 pro-freedom

00:39:42.980 and I was,

00:39:45.180 you know,

00:39:45.460 convinced to be involved

00:39:46.340 in that.

00:39:47.180 I would say that

00:39:48.320 it is important

00:39:50.840 for all of us

00:39:51.380 to work together

00:39:52.000 and I will be

00:39:53.540 trying as hard

00:39:54.600 as I can

00:39:55.000 to make that happen

00:39:55.900 as challenging

00:39:57.560 as that can be sometimes.

00:39:59.000 Recently,

00:40:00.000 MP,

00:40:00.560 MPP rather,

00:40:01.760 Rick Nichols endorsed

00:40:02.860 you and the Ontario Party.

00:40:05.200 Do you,

00:40:05.860 what do you think about that

00:40:07.180 and also do you think

00:40:08.460 that there might be

00:40:09.220 an opportunity there

00:40:10.100 for Rick to join in

00:40:11.660 and run?

00:40:12.260 Well,

00:40:12.700 that's a great question

00:40:13.600 and I was honoured

00:40:14.760 to have Rick's endorsement.

00:40:16.880 He's been doing

00:40:17.340 such a great job

00:40:18.200 in the legislature

00:40:18.940 doing exactly

00:40:20.040 what's needed right now.

00:40:22.280 I would be honoured

00:40:23.200 to have Rick run

00:40:24.220 for the Ontario Party.

00:40:26.020 Obviously,

00:40:26.620 I'm not able

00:40:28.100 to speak on Rick's behalf

00:40:29.320 but it'll be exciting

00:40:30.940 to see what his decisions

00:40:32.380 are as we move forward.

00:40:34.380 I would say,

00:40:35.040 you know,

00:40:35.220 this is a great example

00:40:36.140 of my efforts

00:40:36.800 to kind of reach out

00:40:37.680 and work with people

00:40:38.480 and be hopefully

00:40:39.600 a place where

00:40:40.460 all the freedom fighters

00:40:41.660 can join in

00:40:42.360 to fight in Ontario.

00:40:43.600 Back in February,

00:40:45.760 yourself,

00:40:46.420 Maxime Bernier

00:40:47.100 and Randy Hill,

00:40:47.800 you started this

00:40:48.660 End the Lockdown Caucus.

00:40:50.160 What happened to that?

00:40:52.140 Well,

00:40:52.540 the End the Lockdown Caucus

00:40:53.720 still exists.

00:40:55.720 We haven't met

00:40:56.760 in some time

00:40:58.180 but the movement

00:41:01.880 to sort of unite

00:41:03.380 the elected representatives

00:41:06.240 around the country

00:41:06.760 that are opposed

00:41:07.480 to COVID mandates

00:41:08.520 still exists.

00:41:10.160 Of course,

00:41:11.080 we're not dealing

00:41:11.580 so much with lockdowns

00:41:12.900 per se right now.

00:41:13.820 It's more,

00:41:14.300 you know,

00:41:14.520 vaccine mandates

00:41:15.260 and things like that

00:41:16.120 but the End the Lockdown Caucus

00:41:17.640 still exists.

00:41:19.380 As a founding member,

00:41:21.060 I did,

00:41:22.880 I was involved

00:41:23.720 early on

00:41:24.360 but the organization

00:41:26.280 of the caucus

00:41:27.360 really fell more

00:41:28.420 to Liberty Coalition Canada

00:41:29.840 and so I was more

00:41:32.360 a participant

00:41:33.200 than an organizer.

00:41:34.740 And I think that leads me

00:41:36.200 into the last question

00:41:36.980 that I have for you,

00:41:37.680 Derek,

00:41:37.960 which is that

00:41:38.680 this Ontario party

00:41:39.920 is kind of blurring the lines

00:41:41.880 between libertarian

00:41:42.700 and conservative

00:41:43.340 so obviously freedom fighting

00:41:45.360 is one strong point

00:41:47.480 of the platform.

00:41:48.220 Can you share with our viewers

00:41:49.020 any other platform,

00:41:50.880 key platform ideals

00:41:52.020 or ideologies

00:41:52.720 that you have

00:41:53.580 as we learn,

00:41:55.060 wait to learn more?

00:41:56.120 Sure.

00:41:56.700 So our platform

00:41:57.720 is going to be developed

00:41:58.760 in consultation

00:41:59.800 with our candidates

00:42:03.400 and so there'll be more

00:42:05.560 that comes out on that

00:42:06.420 but I will say

00:42:07.160 that for us,

00:42:08.440 you know,

00:42:08.860 we are,

00:42:09.700 I have a great track record

00:42:10.980 when it comes to

00:42:11.560 fighting for freedom

00:42:12.300 but that also includes

00:42:13.780 fighting,

00:42:14.460 you know,

00:42:15.460 against things

00:42:16.020 such as the Kathleen Wynne

00:42:17.200 sex ed curriculum

00:42:18.000 which Ford,

00:42:19.220 you know,

00:42:19.500 brought back in,

00:42:20.740 you know,

00:42:21.240 fighting against,

00:42:22.040 you know,

00:42:22.560 the transgender craze 0.99

00:42:25.500 and things like this.

00:42:27.020 So I,

00:42:27.720 you know,

00:42:27.920 there's many fights

00:42:28.960 where the freedom battle

00:42:29.700 is on

00:42:30.180 and we need to make sure

00:42:31.540 we're fighting

00:42:31.900 on all of them.

00:42:33.840 That's a large undertaking

00:42:35.460 and task to,

00:42:36.980 to hold in regards.

00:42:38.400 So,

00:42:38.940 good luck

00:42:39.900 and please keep in touch

00:42:41.180 if you have any more updates

00:42:42.700 and we'll stay tuned

00:42:43.520 to find out more

00:42:44.380 about the Ontario party.

00:42:46.380 Good.

00:42:46.660 Thanks for joining me, Derek.

00:42:48.080 Thank you, Tamara.

00:42:48.880 All right.

00:42:49.300 For Rebel News,

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