Rebel News Podcast - BREAKDOWN： Trucker Commission Day 14 ｜ Convoy organizers begin testifying

00:00:00.000 good afternoon everybody and welcome to the rebel news daily live stream this used to be hosted at

00:00:22.440 noon eastern but right now we've shifted it to the end of the day because we want to talk about

00:00:27.940 the only news that matters and that's the public order emergency commission i'm joined today by my

00:00:34.220 co-host william diaz and also the lovely tamara ugolini who's got some news to bring us um i

00:00:40.420 should get some housekeeping stuff out of the way before we get to everything that we want to talk

00:00:45.400 about because it was a crazy crazy busy day a lot of very interesting frisky witnesses today and

00:00:53.000 tamara had the side story of the day with doug ford so she'll talk to us about that so if if you want

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00:01:16.420 the end of the show um we appreciate every little bit that you give us but there's just so many

00:01:21.460 things we need to talk about in the show that we sort of had to set a bar a cutoff so that we can

00:01:26.680 do our best to get to your story ideas your questions your comments about what we're talking about

00:01:31.540 without sort of cluttering up the whole end of the show with um little bitty comments we're covering

00:01:37.900 the public order emergency inquiry and that's a fail safe built into the emergencies act it prevents

00:01:44.340 the authoritarian overreach of a crazy tyrant let's say like justin trudeau who invoked the

00:01:50.840 emergencies act on peaceful anti-mandate truckers in the nation's capital after about three and a

00:01:57.180 half weeks close to four weeks there of literally no violence whatsoever early complaints of horn

00:02:04.080 honkings and just basically an extended traffic snarl and for that he used a never before used

00:02:09.880 counter-terrorism law on these peaceful anti-regime protesters it's the kind of thing you see done all

00:02:16.960 the time in russia argentina iran egypt when the normals get a little too frisky they drop the

00:02:25.680 hammer of government on them and that's exactly what justin trudeau did while blathering out the

00:02:29.840 other side of his mouth about the right to protest and human rights so right now in ottawa they're

00:02:36.160 examining testimony from key players to see if the government was justified in using it and if they

00:02:41.760 had any other tools in the toolbox left to deal with this protest they should have done it that way

00:02:48.340 and actually they didn't need to deal with this protest at all it wasn't doing anything wrong it

00:02:51.480 was just being annoying which is sometimes some of the best protests so that's the news of the day

00:02:56.880 we'll discuss some of the testimony but i'm very happy to have my friend tamira ugolini on the show and

00:03:01.780 i i know i'm talking too much and i get emails about sheila you're monopolizing the show tamira was in 1.00

00:03:06.400 court today because a side part of all of this and i know we have the clip so maybe olivia if you want

00:03:13.640 to key those up doug ford the premier of ontario has said that he's never been called to testify

00:03:22.180 at the emergency emergencies commission which is odd because he's a key player in all of this

00:03:29.500 and he has said repeatedly he supported the use of the emergencies act and he stood shoulder to

00:03:35.180 shoulder with justin trudeau on the invocation of the emergencies act which puts him in stark contrast

00:03:40.680 from the other conservative premiers in the country like ottawa and saskatchewan who have

00:03:45.320 specifically said we are against the emergencies act even though we had it in the case of alberta

00:03:50.740 blockades here there were other ways to deal with that so um anyways let's throw to that clip of doug

00:03:57.040 ford saying he stood shoulder to shoulder with justin trudeau and i believe that was the day that we saw

00:04:01.260 testimony about justin trudeau driving a truck over doug ford anyway we'll get to that in a minute

00:04:06.640 how come premier ford you're not testifying at this inquiry were you asked did you decline

00:04:12.920 i have not i have not been asked again uh i want to repeat what i said earlier we have top officials

00:04:20.800 uh from the opp that were running the operation with conjunction with municipal

00:04:25.140 uh police agencies and uh the rcmp you know our police did an incredible job they were very

00:04:32.340 peaceful they moved forward and i am so proud to stand here and back our police right across this

00:04:37.340 country and right across this province i'll always support our police they're professional

00:04:41.660 they're polite and they ended up getting the job uh done thank you

00:04:46.100 i'm not sure if he knows what he is talking about he said he's never been asked to testify

00:04:55.920 um but that's not what's stopping him because he was asked to testify and in fact today in court

00:05:04.040 doug ford was fighting what amounts to a subpoena he is he doesn't want to testify in the emergencies

00:05:11.720 commission and it's a public hearing it's because the public is entitled to know what their decision

00:05:17.920 makers were deciding behind closed doors before they dropped the hammer of government on people's

00:05:22.680 civil liberties doug ford has repeatedly said well nobody asked me that's why i'm not testifying

00:05:27.440 well now he's been subpoenaed they're asking him and he doesn't want to go tamera what happened in court

00:05:32.140 today it's interesting first i just want to give a little bit of background context here because like you

00:05:37.560 mentioned sheila doug ford is a key player in the invocation of the emergencies act and uh previously

00:05:44.500 so i believe it was february 4th that the city of ottawa invoked their own state of emergency and then

00:05:50.020 on february 11th or maybe it was 12th i could have the dates uh mixed up there but regardless prior to

00:05:56.660 the invocation by the federal government doug ford had also issued a provincial state of emergency

00:06:01.940 so there were two separate provincial states of emergency that already existed prior to trudeau

00:06:09.300 invoking his own unprecedented use of the emergencies act on february 14th and now what i want to to note

00:06:16.420 here is that okay there's the premier of ontario the alleged progressive conservative doug ford being

00:06:22.080 compelled or summonsed rather to testify because he otherwise refuses but uh another key player in all of

00:06:28.840 this is the former solicitor general so that's sylvia jones and under the mandate of the solicitor

00:06:35.260 general she um is to to do things such as be responsible for uh public security law enforcement 0.91

00:06:43.400 policing emergency management so when you talk about key players in the whole scheme of what happened with

00:06:51.020 this emergency response those are two really crucial key players in all of this and

00:06:58.720 they're the two people out of all the elected politicians and others who have been compelled

00:07:04.140 to bring forward testimony in the public inquiry they are the only two who are skirting their

00:07:12.180 otherwise considered parliamentary duties to do so and they seem to be doing that as the lawyers

00:07:18.800 argued today in court they seem to be doing this under the veil of having some parliamentary privilege

00:07:24.860 and resorting back to the constitutional act of 1867 which i find to be oddly ironic because we've seen

00:07:34.160 throughout the last two and a half years that none of these elected officials care really about the

00:07:40.020 constitutional infringements that they've imposed on their constituents and arguably the entire province

00:07:46.500 of ontario indiscriminately i mean all throughout the covid regime narrative we saw unprecedented

00:07:52.240 business closure mandates indiscriminate mask mandates coercive vaccine passports and of course the highly

00:08:00.580 infringing squashing of peaceful protest and the right to assembly so now that it it's serving

00:08:07.480 doug ford and his former solicitor general sylvia jones who's who's now the minister of health oddly

00:08:12.460 um they're they're they're falling back on this constitutionality infringement on their parliamentary

00:08:19.940 privilege to try to argue that that will prevent them from testifying in court not in court but in

00:08:27.460 this public inquiry and the offense was was basically that a this has never been done before so there's not

00:08:34.780 a clear precedence on the invocation of parliamentary privilege in a commission situation there's a lot

00:08:41.900 of precedence there uh within the federal and the court of law but in terms of a commission that has high

00:08:48.540 public um value and really high social interest for not only our democracy but our province and country

00:08:57.500 as a whole this is really unprecedented so the amount of things that the doug ford government and

00:09:04.020 he himself and some of his ministers are doing in that the realm of unprecedented just continues to 0.98

00:09:11.320 mount here as evidenced by what i saw in court today just to put into context just how ridiculous doug

00:09:17.880 ford is being right now marco mendicino is going to testify federal cabinet ministers who had their 0.50

00:09:25.580 grubby hands all over this are going to testify prime minister justin trudeau is going to testify

00:09:33.280 and he doesn't think he should be accountable for anything when he does things like blackface it's

00:09:39.020 something we all have to be accountable for and not him he's going to go and doug ford first he says he

00:09:46.160 wasn't asked but i would go basically alluding to i would go if i was asked and then so they say okay

00:09:51.960 well you're asked and he says oh no no no no i have cabinet privilege invoked here i'm not going to go

00:09:58.000 it's utterly ridiculous i think here's what i think i don't think some of they don't want some of his

00:10:04.800 internal communications to be admitted once he's a witness those come with him and i don't think those

00:10:12.360 are going to be very favorable to doug ford amongst doug ford voters when you see how doug ford is

00:10:20.200 talking about people formerly of ford nation but i think now occupying what's better known as yahoo

00:10:27.820 nation what do you think william you know i don't think it'll have that big of an impact on the um

00:10:33.960 on the votes that doug ford received we saw the way that doug ford behaved during the pandemic

00:10:41.080 for with conservative voters still supporting him so-called conservative voters still supporting him

00:10:47.120 he didn't act like a true conservative during the pandemic there he gained more votes at the last

00:10:53.140 election so i don't think it'll have that big of an impact though on ford's voting base

00:10:57.460 it's odd because the man was elected i think because his brother was so beloved and he was

00:11:06.200 happy to trade on the ford name until he got into power and then acted totally the opposite

00:11:10.720 you know what olivia let's roll that clip where he's talking about standing shoulder to shoulder

00:11:15.780 with justin trudeau because on the very day he said that there were internal communications admitted

00:11:22.000 into evidence in the trucker commission if you want to see um some of that i think it's in my live

00:11:28.900 tweets on uh trucker commission.com but if it was on that day where there were conversations between

00:11:37.260 jim watson and justin trudeau it's a readout of a phone call where they said basically things are going

00:11:42.920 sideways how do we stick this on doug ford and that was the very day he did shoulder to shoulder with

00:11:50.280 justin trudeau so why don't we show that clip because it's funny the reasoning he gives for

00:11:54.860 the invocation of the emergencies act and none of them are actually things you can use a counter

00:11:59.180 terrorism law on you can think back to february do you think that the federal government was justified

00:12:05.300 in using the emergencies act to lift the occupation of downtown ottawa well we have some of the top

00:12:11.100 officials with the opp testifying and uh yes i i stood shoulder to shoulder with the prime minister

00:12:18.100 uh these these uh folks were you know camping out everything from whirlpools disrupting downtown

00:12:25.900 disrupting the lives of the people of ottawa uh we've worked collaboratively with with the mayor and

00:12:31.600 the the the prime minister over at the borders they were holding up a billion dollars of trade

00:12:37.380 every single day getting across our borders we were getting phone calls from governors it's unacceptable

00:12:43.240 uh myself and and i know the prime minister believe in free speech and if you want to protest protest if

00:12:50.360 you want to come down to queen's park and do cartwheels but if you disrupt the lives of the people of

00:12:55.260 ottawa every single day disrupt the lives of economic flow across our borders i have zero tolerance for it 1.00

00:13:01.280 thank you

00:13:02.360 um disrupting the lives of people living downtown and having rural pools as they say which i think is a brand name

00:13:12.580 and not actual tub it's like saying you have a frigidaire um like uh that's not terrorism

00:13:19.580 it's inconvenient it's annoying as one cop pointed out it's an eyesore but it is not terrorism

00:13:27.220 but we heard today testimony some people's bank accounts were frozen for up to like three months

00:13:32.660 people were denied loans subsequently like in the summer um one man today um

00:13:39.220 shoot i forget his name the leader of the leprechauns from uh quebec steve he had steve

00:13:48.340 charland he had his bank account canceled way afterwards they just nuked his bank account

00:13:54.780 and the best doug ford could come up with was disrupting the lives of the people who live

00:13:59.880 downtown i don't know if you live downtown in any major city i don't think your life is all that

00:14:04.140 peaceful to start with and not to mention that the covid regime literally upended everyone's life

00:14:11.420 with their unprecedented response to a seasonal respiratory virus right this is this is the precursor

00:14:17.920 to everything that happened thereafter in ottawa with the protest that was just the full force

00:14:23.740 showing of how fed up canadians were with this these continued continued power grabs and government

00:14:30.680 overreach and again i have to reiterate that the irony and the testimony that i heard today for

00:14:36.980 instance um the the lawyers that were were arguing on behalf of ford et al which is ford and jones sylvia

00:14:44.540 jones um noted in in there and i quote that it was important to protect privilege when it is under

00:14:51.300 threat so parliamentary privilege um and then she refers to the compelment of testimony as coercive

00:14:58.760 further asking what would be in jeopardy if ford and jones she's worried about their parliamentary

00:15:05.040 yeah right again the irony in the fact that ford and jones are worried about being coerced to testify

00:15:14.160 in a highly um relevant to our social fabric setting yeah there's my tweet there i and i live tweeted

00:15:22.720 um the entire proceeding so if you are on twitter you can go and find that and sift through what i

00:15:28.100 tweeted out today there's a i don't even know how many tweets but there's a lot to sift through there

00:15:32.260 um and we also have a write-up published on rebelnews.com and i will have a video um out either tomorrow or the

00:15:39.220 next day just kind of doing a play-by-play of what happened in the hearing today but regardless i couldn't

00:15:44.860 believe that i was hearing things like upholding constitutionality and being coerced to testify

00:15:50.020 when also the fact of the matter is and you brought this up earlier sheila is that everyone else

00:15:55.740 including parliamentarians who have been asked to testify have all complied no one else who has thus

00:16:04.240 far been asked to testify has decided to seek public orders or or private hearing orders against

00:16:12.600 giving that testimony so that includes all of the representatives from alberta who also saw that

00:16:18.880 coots protests take place around the same time so to allude to the fact that this is you know like an

00:16:26.300 isolated incident that ford and jones somehow have this parliamentary privilege and also what they refer to as

00:16:32.680 being compelled to testify would be a distraction to their parliamentary duties well no one else has

00:16:40.380 taken that stance or tried to skirt their duty to be part of this commission which again is a mandate

00:16:47.680 put out to ensure that the government does not act disproportionately in their response so the whole

00:16:54.260 thing to me is why hugely ironic and such a disservice to the mandate of the public order commission

00:17:02.180 yeah it runs completely counter to it the whole point is to hold the government to account for

00:17:08.200 their decision to invoke it and so every government official who's involved should be testifying there

00:17:13.600 and it's like doug ford hasn't even been paying attention to the commission i can't imagine that he

00:17:18.380 would anyway but basically you can go there and say whatever you want like literally that's what's been

00:17:23.800 happening you just say things they'll show you emails you can basically deny the what even they say in the

00:17:31.060 emails you could just it's not like a court you could just go and say whatever you want which is why i

00:17:36.140 believe it's the evidence it's the emails it's other things that are going to follow with his testimony

00:17:43.920 that will prove problematic for him that he doesn't want the public to see i know we have one little

00:17:50.080 matter of housekeeping that we have to get to before we move on too much and that is the matter of rebel

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00:18:19.800 for tickets and details um actually maybe or do we have an ad that we can throw to i'm not sure

00:18:26.100 but um you will see some of the key perfect we'll throw to an ad in a second but i'll be there i'm

00:18:34.040 sure william will be there tamara you'll come in for it i'm sure um and you'll also have some key

00:18:40.400 players from the convoy there for example my friend the wonderful little tamara leach um also

00:18:47.120 palmander singh he was the tiktok star of the convoy uh lawyer for tdf alan honner who is currently

00:18:55.320 um examining people at the uh convoy as well as well as a whole host of others too so that's

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00:20:13.920 this will be my first rebel live event and i'm so excited oh they're so fun and i'm actually really

00:20:33.080 excited to meet ben bankus in person i think that's the one that i'm most looking forward to

00:20:39.180 and i don't want to make chad williamson mad but i think it might be ben bankus because i can see chad

00:20:43.780 whenever i feel like um before we uh say goodbye to tamera because i know she's got little ones and

00:20:49.620 it's supper time where she's at um let's throw to justin trudeau calling out his i guess like 10

00:20:58.880 minutes ago was his best friend doug ford for the use of the notwithstanding clause regarding

00:21:04.780 support education staff workers and he calls this a suppression of rights so using the sort of

00:21:11.480 provincial nuclear button of overriding everything that's the notwithstanding clause justin trudeau

00:21:17.140 thinks that's a bad idea because it will hurt civil liberties ain't that weird maybe they're

00:21:21.240 having like a fight in the bromance let's check it out using the notwithstanding clause to suspend

00:21:28.740 workers rights um is wrong i know that that collective bargaining negotiations are sometimes difficult

00:21:38.120 but it has to happen it has to be done in a respectful thoughtful way at the bargaining table

00:21:43.460 uh the suspension of people's rights is something that you should only do in the most exceptional

00:21:49.960 circumstances and i really hope that uh all politicians call out the uh overuse of the

00:21:55.880 notwithstanding clause to suspend people's rights and freedoms

00:21:58.320 using the notwithstanding

00:22:08.120 that guy what a piece of work tamara tell us what's going on with this oh the irony in all of

00:22:15.680 this is just i i hope that people can see what the what is really happening here and just having

00:22:22.860 that context over the last two and a half years and how all of these people have not given any care in

00:22:29.700 the world for uh civil liberties and people's you know constitutional rights um so this is really

00:22:35.820 interesting to see all of this unfold and now all of a sudden we care about those things

00:22:39.400 but just in closing and thank you sheila because i do appreciate yeah it's dinner time and bath time

00:22:44.980 and it's normally witching hour which is just further compounded tonight by the sugar high that

00:22:49.860 my children are coming off of after halloween um so the the lawyer sorry rather the judge in this case

00:22:57.540 um decided to reserve judgment at the end of the hearing so they went for almost the full four hours i

00:23:02.560 think they cut about 15 minutes short um but he specifically says at the end that the worst that

00:23:09.660 will happen is an order with reasons to follow uh which the judge will provide by november the 8th

00:23:16.400 and what i took from that and what i kept hearing in the hearing itself um was that choices have

00:23:23.300 consequences so i thought that was really interesting because throughout the covid narrative and

00:23:28.860 those health overlords and the regime that they were imposing on the plebs us us little people

00:23:34.740 um was that your choice for instance with the coercive vaccine mandates those choices came with

00:23:41.960 consequences and so we're hearing that same um slogan if you want to call it that now translating over

00:23:49.920 into this hearing and so i guess what the judge will do is give this order with reasons to follow

00:23:56.080 and then doug ford and minister sylvia jones have a choice to make and that choice whatever they decide

00:24:03.780 if they are found to be in contempt of court by not showing up to testify and complying with their

00:24:10.520 summons to appear then that choice will have legal consequences so we should know more on november 8th

00:24:18.420 when the judge gives his ruling and then of course doug ford is set to be testifying

00:24:24.480 on november the 10th so that's a mere two days later and i suppose only time will tell what

00:24:31.160 happens and what kind of consequences come with the choices that both of those individuals decide to

00:24:36.360 make isn't that interesting what do you think what do you think they're actually going to have to

00:24:42.520 testify before i let go do they have to do you think that they're going to be able to skirt this

00:24:48.120 it sounds like they're really clinging on to the fact that they will not be complying with the

00:24:55.940 summons um the lawyers on ford's side in my opinion argued pretty weakly um that there was any sort of

00:25:03.620 precedence there and that they even had the merit to invoke the parliamentary privilege um i think that

00:25:09.580 this is really messy because there isn't precedence there and the judge was unsure whether or not this

00:25:14.980 was suitable to be heard in a court of law or there needed to be some other sort of um policy put in

00:25:21.740 place around the parliamentary privilege the ottawa residents coalition lawyer said something really

00:25:28.280 interesting that a section of what doug ford is is sort of falling back on in the parliamentary privilege

00:25:35.480 act was a part that was actually amended in july of 2020 so i'm actually having some of our lawyers

00:25:42.020 look into that amendment and what was made what was changed and um i think that's a really interesting

00:25:49.140 part of this whole story there's it's very messy there's a lot to consider here um the judge went into

00:25:56.020 this asking basically is the parliamentary privilege being invoked as a shield or as a sword and that just

00:26:04.340 kind of continued to be um further scrutinized obviously as the lawyers each read their or said

00:26:13.080 their various uh positions and arguments and this judge straight up said my head is spinning now after

00:26:19.840 listening to the commissioner and his remarks so i think that he's really confused now some of the

00:26:25.760 precedents used were cases that he actually sat in on or presided over or was part of the um i don't

00:26:32.680 remember the the technical legalese word that he used but he was part of those cases and so he has

00:26:38.300 a lot of thinking to do and he only has eight days to do it um it sounds like doug ford and sylvia jones

00:26:46.320 have that decision to make and it could come with really really harsh legal consequences i heard that

00:26:51.900 there was potential jail time not only just fines and whether or not they'll you know the full hammer of

00:26:56.900 law would come down on someone like that is up for debate um and review but uh the consequences here

00:27:03.020 can be pretty pretty large and their own uh speaker of the house could investigate them and see if they've

00:27:09.980 invoked this parliamentary privilege on good faith or whether or not they're acting within their actual

00:27:16.580 scope so it is really messy and i i really am looking forward to seeing how it all unfolds because i don't

00:27:23.020 know really i thought going into the hearing it sounded like the judge kind of had a good idea

00:27:27.460 of what he was going to do and then of course as he heard the remarks and the arguments obviously um

00:27:33.620 it really changed what he kind of had in his bet in his mind going into it got it very messy nobody

00:27:41.660 knows what's going to happen but we know doug ford is not a good guy uh damara thanks for coming on the

00:27:47.400 show and trying to unpack all that for us why don't we go to clip four marco mendicino was getting

00:27:54.420 grilled in the house of commons today over his staff his staff's text messages to frame the convoy

00:28:00.360 as extremists before they ever arrived in ottawa let's go to that clip and then we'll allow tamara to 1.00

00:28:05.800 just sneak away i'll say i'll say good night now thanks everyone for joining us and uh have a great night

00:28:11.980 enjoy sheila and william for the rest thank you thanks

00:28:15.040 the government was planning to insult the occupants in an effort to scorn them text messages between

00:28:27.880 liberal employees reveal that this was strategic they wanted to give interviews about the extreme

00:28:33.160 elements of the convoy to make them look bad and they even thought it would bring out the crazies

00:28:38.420 they said two days later the prime minister insulted the convoy and the police confirmed

00:28:44.340 that this fueled the crisis does the government realize how dangerous and deeply irresponsible its

00:28:52.300 strategy was the honorable minister of public safety mr speaker we invoked the emergencies act

00:29:01.340 because this was an unprecedented unprecedented situation it was dangerous for workers for families

00:29:08.100 for youth and that is why we worked together with police services it was a necessary decision

00:29:14.020 and now we're going to collaborate with the commission because transparency is an important

00:29:21.420 component of this exercise now thank you since the beginning of this illegal blockade the government

00:29:27.120 managed the resources and the rcmp to help the police force here in ottawa

00:29:34.780 and help other operations across the country it was an unprecedented situation and the decision to invoke

00:29:43.420 the emergencies act was one that was necessary to help canadians who were impacted by this unprecedented

00:29:52.420 situation thank you the royal

00:29:54.460 it's like a big waste of time to listen to him talk because he doesn't actually answer the question about

00:30:02.900 why his staff yeah or any liberal you know you're doing the lord's work out there trying to ask them

00:30:08.440 questions but you just get mumbo jumbo back from them the question was why were your staff trying to frame

00:30:16.540 this as a january 6th event before they even got there making them pre-criminals and he just says you know

00:30:23.620 this was impacting workers and youth and residents of ottawa i don't know how it was impacting the youth

00:30:30.460 maybe they were getting hurt in the bouncy castles i'm not sure um but besides what unfolded in the

00:30:37.400 house of commons today there was uh testimony from one of the convoy organizers chris barber

00:30:42.160 um i think just before before we move away from what marco mendicino says i think it's disgusting to

00:30:49.100 see someone in your office that you're still hiring talk about these people and talk about strategies the

00:30:55.040 way that he did on the text messages referred to people in the convoy as crazies and trying to mold the

00:31:01.420 stories to fit their narrative so they're going to say something they're planning on putting something out there

00:31:06.480 and then afterwards they say okay well how can we support what we are saying instead of going after the facts

00:31:12.540 wherever they lead i think it's it's absolutely repulsive to see that someone like this is still hired

00:31:18.260 in the office of our public safety minister here in canada but that's probably precisely why they were

00:31:26.140 hired into public safety um these people get into the upper echelons of the liberal government not by

00:31:34.200 doing the right thing by all canadians but by doing the right thing by the liberals you can tell in the

00:31:41.460 in the in the context of this they really don't see the people in the convoy for me this has been an

00:31:48.220 overreaching thread that the people on the other side of this don't see the people in the convoy as

00:31:54.460 their fellow canadians they really don't that's why they call it an occupation these are canadians

00:32:00.100 they belong there they they have a right to be in their nation's capital they're not an occupation

00:32:06.660 they're canadians who see things differently than you maybe to use the language of justin trudeau

00:32:13.720 they're experiencing things differently and they have a right to be heard and they were treated like

00:32:19.480 they were foreign invaders from a far-flung land of barbarians it's quite odd yeah yeah you know i i 1.00

00:32:26.180 keep seeing there's one counter but there well there's one protester that was here the courthouse

00:32:30.140 not a courthouse at the library i can tell by their rainbow flag yeah like she she was alone she

00:32:36.480 was alone on herself she had a whole poster saying basically go home terrorist she had signage on her

00:32:44.140 little truck insulting the protesters she was doing this sign to the protesters right in their face 1.00

00:32:50.680 not to to one of the tamara leach freedom convoy supporters right to their face not a single let me

00:32:57.160 just stop you i was i was just gonna say what did they say back to her nothing probably right well

00:33:02.940 well exactly like you know you saw some people approaching her trying to have a discussion like

00:33:06.800 the man holding a green coat right here but not a single one of them laid a finger on her not a

00:33:14.340 single one and you dare call them terrorists without anyone doing actually anything terrorizing to you

00:33:21.380 after you keep insulting them in their face

00:33:23.440 you know that she knows even she knows in her heart those truckers are peaceful because she went

00:33:30.920 down there alone knowing full well that they wouldn't hurt her no matter what she said about

00:33:35.380 them no matter what insults and invective she hurled at them she knew they wouldn't hurt her so they

00:33:40.840 are she even she knows in her heart they are peaceful um yeah but she's just so weaponized by the cbc and 0.97

00:33:48.660 the government um that she's acting crazy like i don't know how you can feel good about your day 0.93

00:33:54.000 if you were that crazy woman on the street yeah and actually this is not the first time i see her i 0.68

00:33:59.580 saw her daughter riley went tupac you know the church that's set up in ottawa for a few months 0.95

00:34:04.200 got evicted she was there as well doing the exact same thing there were reports of her assaulting 1.00

00:34:09.400 someone i didn't see any video of it concretely but i was told that she did then later two weeks ago

00:34:14.880 on a saturday myself and efran our head of post-production went to walk on ballington street

00:34:20.080 and there was a freedom protest there a freedom rally and she was there as well and some people

00:34:25.440 said that she did harm them in person so she's always there she's always there trying to cause

00:34:30.840 trouble and not a single thing has happened to her yet so i think those terrorists those so-called

00:34:36.960 terrorists are not very terrorizing all that much they're doing their job badly yeah i was gonna say

00:34:42.040 they're doing it all wrong did she have a bullhorn there did i see that i'm not i'm not entirely sure

00:34:48.000 i know that she had a probably a megaphone i saw her having her megaphone i thought they were against 1.00

00:34:52.340 loud noises yeah i thought they were against loud noises in ottawa they don't like the the breach of

00:34:58.620 their peace and quiet in ottawa i'm reliably informed by crazy people um let's go to chris uh chris

00:35:06.460 barber's clip six chris barber testified today he's one of the organizers of the convoys from

00:35:10.980 swift current saskatchewan speedy creek as they say home of uh former premier there brad wall and

00:35:19.720 his son colter wall of whom i'm a big big big big fan um he is a trucker he employs some lease

00:35:28.240 operators and his son he is vaccinated but he also stands with the rights of people to make medical

00:35:36.100 decisions i saw some people online saying oh chris barber is vaccinated yeah great he but he it was

00:35:43.280 the choice he made a choice to be vaccinated against unemployment but he also stands for the

00:35:48.640 unvaccinated people around them the right to make their own medical decisions that's the moral and 0.99

00:35:53.720 ethical thing to do that's what anybody all anybody ever wanted was for it to be a choice um anyways he

00:35:59.760 said uh let's go to clip six he testifies that he advocated every single day for a peaceful protest

00:36:07.460 and there's video evidence of all this all over the place they actually showed the video evidence

00:36:11.720 the government did i was like what what are you doing but uh anyways and he pushed back against the

00:36:18.600 demonization of the convoy as a january 6th event again they didn't even storm a single building

00:36:23.360 thousands of them in the streets they didn't go anywhere they weren't supposed to go

00:36:27.800 um again they were probably an eyesore to uppity people who like orderly things all the time but

00:36:34.680 they didn't even trespass so it's not so january 60 anyways let's roll this in another tiktok video

00:36:42.520 you posted um and i'm uh and this would have been during the protests in in ottawa uh you say that the

00:36:51.520 last thing we need is a january 6th style insurrection and that was one of your biggest concerns do you

00:36:57.500 recall saying that yes why was that one of your biggest concerns i believe the federal government

00:37:05.800 was backed into a corner um not wanting to speak to us uh and i personally believe that that was the

00:37:14.380 only way i guess out of it for them to demonize us to the point where they could say insurrection when

00:37:21.720 that wasn't the case um and so i pushed that message constantly daily peace love unity like i said it

00:37:29.520 changed me as a person listening to myself daily saying that in another tiktok video you

00:37:34.000 i think i think overall the testimony given by chris barber was a very honest and a humble one

00:37:40.820 i think it really showed his how genuine he was and i think it made him look great i don't think it was

00:37:46.080 a bad testimony at all i saw some people thinking on social media that he was getting destroyed by

00:37:51.620 a government lawyer i don't share that feeling at all i think he was able to stay professional and

00:37:54.920 actually defend his point and defend his image uh even when presented with um videos or stuff that

00:38:02.620 could go against him so yeah i thought his testimony was great but yeah you did see some tiktok videos

00:38:07.140 of him advocating for a peaceful protest and telling people that if you're coming to ottawa to cause

00:38:12.960 trouble and do illegal things don't come to ottawa i i thought his testimony was great overall

00:38:18.200 yeah i i didn't understand why the government was trying to put those videos in i the when i saw them

00:38:24.640 i was like oh yeah that that it was exactly the experience that i had from the outside looking in

00:38:30.900 that every day he was calling for peace um one of the things that really struck me and it's a theme

00:38:38.400 again that we've seen over and over during the pandemic why people end up in these protests when

00:38:46.040 they've never been political before in their lives and chris barber said i'm not political i've never

00:38:51.440 really been political i've never done a protest before all of this but all of a sudden he felt like

00:38:58.000 he needed to be involved and when you go to the protest it is exactly the same sentiment people who are

00:39:03.860 like i'm not really not really political but i don't know what to do and i can't watch this stuff

00:39:09.200 anymore so why don't we throw to clip seven about why chris barber decided that he had to protest these

00:39:18.340 vaccine mandates because they didn't really touch on him

00:39:21.680 clip seven olivia we'll get to it it's a long day for her too oh it's a long day for everyone

00:39:37.240 yeah

00:39:38.500 so mr barber i'd just like to start about this about the reasons why you were coming to ottawa

00:39:46.620 uh it was about mandates generally or was it just the trucker uh mandates the mandate or the the

00:39:53.600 border uh restriction that truckers could no longer enter or pass through if they can only speak for

00:39:58.620 myself but for me personally it was the border mandates that was the that was the last straw per

00:40:04.200 se in in the government going too far and and wanting i need we i needed my voice to be heard

00:40:09.760 right and government going too far it was it was everything it was the restrictions the the the

00:40:15.180 the uh the restrictions from going into restaurants from you know schools were shut down all those sorts

00:40:21.520 of things it just built up and that was the last straw for you there's so many different stories that

00:40:26.420 i've heard throughout this ordeal that that contributes to why we went there when you're hearing

00:40:32.140 stories of people's parents dying in a hospital bed alone because mandates wouldn't allow their kids to

00:40:39.380 be with their with their with their adults when they took their last breath there's you've seen the

00:40:44.320 mental health issues in this country just plummet it was it was sad i watched that with my own children

00:40:49.160 my daughter it was 16 at the time i was uh was unvaxxed in high school bullied by the rest of her 1.00

00:40:56.820 classmates because she was wasn't vaccinated she had to play a clarinet in music class in a separate room

00:41:03.960 you know later on he went on to talk about how his 18 year old son experienced some similar bullying

00:41:12.280 too and again chris barber's unvaccinated but he was standing up for his unvaccinated staff

00:41:18.660 and his unvaccinated friends and family he took a moral stand when a lot of these things didn't touch

00:41:24.480 on him he said he stopped going to restaurants when the vaccine passport came in because he didn't want

00:41:32.620 to be in the medically privileged class i'm putting words into his mouth but he said he didn't go he

00:41:37.560 just didn't go because other people couldn't go too and that's really forgotten in all of this

00:41:44.240 there are a lot of people out there like chris barber who told the commission judge uh judge rollo

00:41:50.600 that it cost him three thousand dollars out of pocket just in fuel to go to ottawa and that's not all

00:41:57.580 the fuel to go back that's not all the idling fuel that's not the food that's not the hotel rooms

00:42:02.460 but he just didn't know what to do he couldn't watch it anymore and uh there were a lot of i think there

00:42:09.720 were as many people like chris barber in this protest than there were just the unvaccinated

00:42:18.700 yeah well i think the pandemic did that's canadians um i think the and just by the way before i get

00:42:24.980 to that all of this took place during the convoy all these people spent all that money during the

00:42:30.800 convoy yet justin trudeau thought they weren't worthy of being heard which is absolutely crazy

00:42:35.740 to think of but i think the pandemic did that to a lot of people i think the pandemic turned people

00:42:40.480 who were not political at the beginning into people that are super interested in politics that

00:42:44.940 are actually reading about what the government is doing that are trying to keep their eyes

00:42:48.640 under government i think did that to a lot of people i have a lot of personal stories that i've

00:42:52.080 heard in the past year in the past year and a half of people that couldn't care less about politics

00:42:57.000 prior to the convoy prior to the the pandemic and then they saw covet 19 mandates then they saw mass

00:43:03.680 mandates they saw vaccine passports they saw all these authoritarian measures taking place and then

00:43:10.480 became political people i think chris barber's story is very similar to the story of a lot of canadians

00:43:15.720 i think we all have people on our facebook page who are like true believers in the covet scare at the

00:43:22.020 very beginning like the kind of people who wash their mail and groceries who would leave their like amazon

00:43:26.260 parcels outside for the covet germs to die off i've watched those people come full circle around to my way

00:43:33.940 of thinking and beyond a little bit sometimes i just want to rope them back in and you know when we see

00:43:40.200 those people come to life and you know the scales fall from their eyes we've got to show them some grace

00:43:46.060 i'm trying to keep all my i told you so's in a big fat sack to myself because it's hard you know we

00:43:53.040 don't go around it's hard but you know you and i go around proselytizing the good word of freedom

00:43:57.780 when we get some takers we have to say okay good thank you join us um we have to we can't do a

00:44:04.280 a purity test on them after the fact um clip nine olivia please are you awake olivia clip nine um clip

00:44:13.160 nine chris barber describes what it was actually like on the streets as opposed to the assaultive

00:44:19.900 crazy behavior um tinderbox i believe is the word that uh chief slowly said chief slowly um describe

00:44:26.680 he described the streets as a tinderbox where nothing actually was explosive um why don't we

00:44:34.540 throw to that one because this is this is reality from inside the convoy and with respect to you

00:44:41.480 walking the streets during the protest what did you see life-changing um yeah it was it was amazing

00:44:48.600 there was so much growing men crying on your shoulder women crying on your shoulder grandmas

00:44:54.380 grandpa's you name it kids um it was really it was really it is an experience unforgettable is there

00:45:02.120 anything notable that you remember of who you spoke to who i didn't speak to um it was everybody you

00:45:10.320 couldn't remember mr mirazo and i went for a walk and mr wilson and uh it was like he uh mr wilson

00:45:17.240 explained it as like walking down the street with mick jagger he said because no matter where you went

00:45:21.360 there was somebody wanting to stop and talk with you it was it was a lot of a lot of love and with

00:45:27.760 respect to you walking the streets during the tinderbox yeah yeah and despite all this love

00:45:36.080 despite all this positive energy justin trudeau still decides to call them unacceptable people with a

00:45:42.780 fringe minority with unacceptable views and despite all of this you still have this lady who's standing in

00:45:49.540 front of the library and archives building calling these people terrorists and trying to install them

00:45:54.320 to their face it's it's crazy to hear all of this being revealed actually to the open public and then

00:46:00.960 comparing all of these testimonies to what you heard in february by the media and also interesting to

00:46:10.380 compare this testimony to the earlier testimony of those two um business advocates from ottawa at the

00:46:20.120 very beginning barber testified that every every place that was open was patronized by the truckers

00:46:28.920 like the ones that weren't scared by the ops into being closed they were patronized by the truckers

00:46:36.620 and actually in fact frequently overwhelmed by the amount of business that they got they noted the

00:46:43.460 tim hortons that was local to the center of the protest was so overwhelmed by business at one point

00:46:51.200 that the truckers were doing the janitorial work in the restaurant they were what mop taking the mop and

00:46:58.940 mopping the floor because everybody's coming in with snowy boots and then the boot it melts and then just

00:47:04.040 creates a mess on the floor so the truckers were washing the floor so that the staff that were

00:47:09.960 there could actually help serve customers um and and that's a far cry from what we heard from those

00:47:17.960 people saying the truckers were unruly they were dangerous yeah yeah it was just a uh just mayhem it

00:47:26.160 was like the purge as that as she said and then we had the the one uh lady who is a business 1.00

00:47:32.620 council advocate or something those lady and the man that one day basically saying the businesses

00:47:38.420 were so scared of um serving people who were unmasked that they closed their doors because

00:47:45.100 the implication is if the business served people without a mask then the business would get the

00:47:50.580 ticket for serving people without a mask but as it turns out ops didn't enforce that not even once so

00:47:57.140 they never enforced it yeah the businesses that stayed open like it's important i know exactly

00:48:03.860 which tim horton is talking about because it's actually the the one in the center of the process

00:48:08.640 and there were so many people there every single day the truckers need to eat they're coming from

00:48:14.160 saskatchewan they're coming from alberta manitoba vancouver british columbia from everywhere they need

00:48:18.940 to eat something where are they going to go in ottawa they're going to go to the restaurant they're going

00:48:22.120 to go to fast food places that are open and those places have never made that much money i think in

00:48:27.280 months due to trudeau's covet 19 measures so yeah i think i think zeksy lee was way off and i think

00:48:32.620 you know that that's that's the thing with the inquiry it's not a court proceeding so you're allowed

00:48:38.920 to do hearsay in the inquiry the issue is going to be when you compare two testimonies the commissioner

00:48:45.120 is going to say okay well which one seems the most credible to you and when you have a feeble

00:48:50.200 testimony like the ones given by zeksy lee or katherine mckinney or matthew flurry and you

00:48:55.660 compare it to the testimony we heard today from chris barber or the ones that we're going to hear

00:48:59.680 from tamara lee from keith wilson coming coming up this week i think there's some that look a lot

00:49:05.360 more credible than other ones well especially when their evidence is backed by the paper trail the

00:49:11.920 email evidence the back and forth there's so for everybody that's testifying there's a stack of

00:49:17.240 documents supporting what they're saying and the commissioner has the job of going back and saying

00:49:23.180 okay they said this is this supported by the documents do the documents contradict what he said

00:49:30.200 he's got a very big job ahead of him i just want to point out the willingness by the way of chris barber

00:49:36.480 and the truckers to move those trucks out of residential areas and how quickly that fell apart

00:49:41.180 when justin trudeau invoked the emergencies act chris barber testified that he moved a hundred

00:49:47.040 vehicles in one day 40 of those were heavy haul trucks and about 20 of those left the city entirely

00:49:55.700 but that all ended when they invoked the emergencies act and maybe we can show throw to

00:50:02.120 i gotta pull up the clip number here i think it is clip five olivia

00:50:09.760 and it is um chris barber saying i would have moved my truck actually from in front of parliament

00:50:18.500 hill but uh literally nobody ever asked me so why don't we just throw to that

00:50:22.640 i asked you this and i think you have confirmed it but you parked your vehicle on wellington street is

00:50:28.060 that correct yes um after you parked there at any point in time up until we'll say february 14th

00:50:37.760 were you given any indication by any police services that you shouldn't be parked on wellington and you'd

00:50:42.880 need to move i was not no did that come as a surprise to you uh i don't know if i really had

00:50:51.200 time to think if it was the surprise it was it was so fast-paced asked you this and i think you have

00:50:55.760 confirmed it but you parked you so an emergency so emergent that you need all the tools in the toolbox

00:51:04.880 setting aside the civil liberties of every canadian in this country and apparently it could have been

00:51:10.320 solved at least in the case of chris barber and his truck on wellington street by knocking on the

00:51:14.240 window and saying hey would you mind moving this thing and he would have yeah and this once again

00:51:19.420 corroborates fully with the testimonies we heard previously the truckers had a willingness to move

00:51:25.600 their trucks and to negotiate with the government to negotiate with the police and actually have a plan 0.99

00:51:30.540 but then you have the idiotic trudeau government that decides to just ignore that whole plan and 0.99

00:51:36.400 still invoke the emergencies act this is such a disgrace the more we get into this the more it is 0.99

00:51:43.160 evident every the evidence is just compiling how the the federal government just wanted to teach

00:51:51.480 these canadians who stood up to them a lesson it wasn't about a terrorist level insurrection event

00:51:59.200 nothing like that they just wanted to show who had the power in this country and they were worried

00:52:05.380 that these blue collar workers from all across the country thought that they might have something to

00:52:09.860 say yeah and as i said in my opinion video about how what we're seeing happening since the beginning

00:52:14.920 of the commission i would pay to be fly on the wall of a trudeau cabinet meeting right now like how

00:52:20.940 hard they must be fighting right now they must be working to find a way to save face when they're going to be

00:52:27.540 testifying because right now they're losing all the credibility of moderate and commonsensical

00:52:34.400 canadians they're losing all the credibility they have left in regards to the way to handle the

00:52:39.460 freedom convoy and you're seeing that from testimonies from people that were not even sympathetic to the

00:52:45.780 convoy from the beginning i would love to i would love to be a fly on the wall and see what is actually

00:52:50.840 being discussed like how omar al-jabra is going to be able to save face in front of the committee when he

00:52:55.720 you're going to have to hire a navigator to get a communication strategy going you know i think

00:53:03.360 the further we get into this and the more more evidence we see you might see a few

00:53:12.140 self-serving liberals break ranks and say look i i think that we were probably wrong in invoking this

00:53:21.260 that we overstepped i think there are some of those who are going to try to save their own shirts

00:53:25.440 and distance themselves from the decision of the government i think there's a few of those

00:53:29.480 and not because they believe in civil liberties but they want to save their seat

00:53:32.480 yeah well i think it's already starting i i don't remember exactly which one it was in february it might

00:53:37.700 have been joelle light bond light bone something like that but there there were a few i believe

00:53:42.560 or at least one or two that did oppose the emergencies act prior to it being invoked and we're seeing some

00:53:48.820 liberals starting to to to break the rank that that they're in i interviewed ivra br when i was in

00:53:54.300 front of parliament the other day and he told me he doesn't agree with everything that the government

00:53:58.200 is doing at all he actually shook my hand and took the time to speak to me which by itself is literally

00:54:03.300 breaking the rank speaking to rebel news when you're a liberal that's not what you're supposed to

00:54:07.180 do and he told me he opposed justin trudeau's planned tax hikes he told me that he thinks pierre

00:54:13.140 poiliev is a good leader he told me he doesn't agree with everything the liberals are doing

00:54:17.880 i think it'll be interesting to see the way the liberal the liberal party divides itself in the

00:54:22.740 upcoming the upcoming weeks you know before we had the conservative party that wasn't united

00:54:26.620 prior to pierre poiliev being the leader you had at least three different factions within the

00:54:33.080 conservative party now it's united i think the liberal party is going to become the divided party

00:54:37.980 from your lips to god's ears william uh let's get to the uh two chats that we have and then we'll wrap

00:54:45.820 it up we're a little bit over time and you've been working all day and so have i uh adam ottawa

00:54:50.120 gives us five bucks the major federal unions are posing for or poised for strikes soon let's see

00:54:56.580 how justin trudeau's narrative changes if that happens yeah i can't wait i love when my enemies

00:55:02.840 fight and i just stand in the corner and let them sort it out i'm not getting involved well you just see

00:55:08.520 everything happening by itself i mean the the lawyers at the moment the freedom convoy lawyers don't have a

00:55:14.120 lot of work to do when the government is testifying and showing videos of the convoy organizers saying

00:55:20.400 that people should be peaceful i mean their job is made easier but by the truth being actually revealed

00:55:26.740 by the commission by the government lawyers

00:55:29.500 yeah and katherine mckinney i think some of her evidence was that way too where she's walking around

00:55:36.440 the street the government lawyers are admitting her videos of her walking around the street ranting about

00:55:40.960 truckers and i'm like just right behind her there's an open lane of traffic and then she'll pan and you

00:55:47.580 don't hear anything i'm like oh there's no honking and then you see truckers standing behind her while

00:55:52.980 she's ranting about how horrible they are no aggression saying absolutely nothing to her and i'm like i hope 0.97

00:55:58.380 she never stops recording that crazy crazy woman okay let's get to the last one it's phaser make 0.99

00:56:03.920 don't miss don't misgender her sheila come on you're so insensitive playing that game i'm not 0.98

00:56:09.220 playing that game we got fraser mcburnie uh our fight the fines recidivist friend from hamilton

00:56:15.620 uh who just he just loves having his caps locked he has five bucks and says before the madness started

00:56:22.780 i had the flu so i did what every person with half a brain i researched the flu that's why i'm so glad

00:56:28.680 i didn't take the jabs look like chris barber said it was about choice no get it don't get it

00:56:34.180 whatever you do what's right for you but don't carve people out of society because they've made a

00:56:38.960 different medical choice than you and as it would turn out those people who waited on hindsight were

00:56:45.960 probably wiser than everybody else at the end of the day um i think that's that's everything right

00:56:53.500 yeah i think that's it we're already past seven testifying tomorrow who's on the on the stand

00:57:01.660 tomorrow i believe we have tom rato keith wilson and uh pat king three of them tomorrow that's a

00:57:08.960 crazy day to watch yeah you know keith wilson is going to be interesting because he's going to be

00:57:14.280 cross-examined by brandon miller or um bath bath sheba vandenberg it'll be so so funny to watch

00:57:23.220 because he's basically working with them at the same level that'll be interesting to watch

00:57:27.480 i can't wait to see him get cross-examined by lawyer for the ottawa busybodies as i call him

00:57:33.100 paul champ with his tax the rich sticker and i'm like you're the rich tax you how about uh gosh i'm

00:57:41.720 not supposed to be the lead live tweet journalist tomorrow but um i think it'll be me yeah i might

00:57:48.240 have to tune in very carefully i have other things to do tomorrow but i don't want to miss that

00:57:52.880 we'll figure it out it's going to be a great day and if people want to follow along

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00:58:33.620 way you're doing a great job and olivia back in toronto if you want to support their work you can

00:58:37.820 do that also at that same website trucker commission.ca as opposed to supporting the work

00:58:43.120 against your will of the trudeau colonized media who colluded with uh deputy ministers in public

00:58:50.800 safety and uh a communications person in justin trudeau's office you will never get that from us

00:58:57.160 we're fiercely furiously independent i think that's the show for tonight william thanks for doing some

00:59:02.920 great work today appreciate it very much thanks to you sheila and uh as david menzies always says

00:59:08.480 when he wraps up the show stay sane the media created the left and the right i don't even know

00:59:17.780 what that means i'm of the people and i want to stand up so that the people can keep on standing up

00:59:25.500 and be heard left right up down i don't give a damn it's become the people against the elected officials 0.73

00:59:35.920 who are managed by multinationals by money by other powers and that makes no sense in a quote-unquote

00:59:45.640 evolved society in 2022 how come we have to demand that our charters are respected otherwise

00:59:53.900 we are put in jail because we offered soup and coffee to people who were in need i will keep on

01:00:02.680 saying this during my trial if i'm accused of mischief for what i did a lot of people in this room

01:00:09.120 should also be in jail

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Rebel News Podcast - November 01, 2022

BREAKDOWN： Trucker Commission Day 14 ｜ Convoy organizers begin testifying

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