Rebel News Podcast - Canada stands with Israel — not the cowardly Trudeau Liberals

00:00:00.160 Hello, my friends. It is very chilly outside. I'm here in Ottawa at the rally for the Jewish people.

00:00:05.700 About 15,000 people supporting Israel and condemning Hamas.

00:00:11.120 A notable absence, of course, is Justin Trudeau.

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00:00:30.000 Tonight, thousands of people rally in support of the Jewish people,

00:00:47.060 but Justin Trudeau refuses to attend.

00:00:50.160 It's December 4th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:53.020 You're fighting for freedom!

00:00:56.220 Shame on you, you censorious bug!

00:01:00.000 I'm in Ottawa.

00:01:09.340 Behind me is a stage upon which a number of speakers from politics, from religion, from civil society are speaking in a rally in support of the Jewish people.

00:01:19.460 That's what it's being described as.

00:01:21.860 It's hard to get a measure of the number of people here when you're in it.

00:01:25.180 I heard a citation of 15,000 people, which sounds about right. 0.94

00:01:32.080 You know, more people would have been here.

00:01:34.240 However, in an atrocious and petty and telling anti-Semitic move, one of the bus companies that signed a contract and was paid in advance to bring people here from Toronto on the morning of failed to show up.

00:01:50.480 They refused to bring supporters to Ottawa, and they refused to answer phone calls about it.

00:01:57.320 17 buses with hundreds of people were stranded.

00:02:01.540 That shows you the world we're in these days.

00:02:05.380 I came down here today, and I listened to a number of speeches.

00:02:09.460 I also went around the protesters, or I guess ralliers, and asked a couple of questions.

00:02:14.680 The first one was, why is Justin Trudeau not here?

00:02:19.980 Here's how some of those questions were answered.

00:02:23.440 Where did you come in from today?

00:02:24.800 I'm coming from Montreal.

00:02:26.160 That's a long journey.

00:02:26.960 Well, not too long, about an hour and a half.

00:02:28.240 No, it was a pleasant journey.

00:02:30.640 Justin Trudeau's just up the block.

00:02:32.260 He's in town now, but he's refusing to come to this event.

00:02:35.460 Do you think he should be here?

00:02:36.660 Of course he should.

00:02:38.140 So why do you think he's not here?

00:02:40.000 He has his personal reasons, but we all know what they are.

00:02:43.320 What do you think they are?

00:02:44.940 Come on.

00:02:45.620 Well, I mean, I think I know, but I want to know what you think.

00:02:49.160 That's what we all are thinking.

00:02:51.240 That he doesn't like the Jews too much.

00:02:53.560 Well, that he has to bow to his electoral base.

00:02:58.200 Well, that's what it is, isn't it?

00:02:59.520 He can do the math.

00:03:00.580 He's not very good at other math, like balancing a budget, but he can count votes, can't he?

00:03:05.160 Yes, he can.

00:03:05.920 Yes, he can.

00:03:06.760 So he's playing it safe.

00:03:08.660 Trudeau's just up the block.

00:03:10.800 Why is he not coming today?

00:03:13.580 It's an excellent question I think he's afraid to.

00:03:15.620 He's more beholden to the certain segments of his party, particularly his cabinet.

00:03:23.380 What people don't realize is that his transportation minister, Omar al-Gabra, was at a very pro-Palestinian

00:03:30.360 rally in Mississauga, Toronto.

00:03:32.980 And let's just say there was a lot of vitriol that was decidedly anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish

00:03:38.640 at that meeting.

00:03:39.540 Man should have been hoofed out way back when.

00:03:41.340 This is over a year ago.

00:03:42.160 So why is Trudeau not here?

00:03:44.440 I think he's afraid.

00:03:45.700 Why is Justin Trudeau not coming today?

00:03:49.140 Because he's not pro-Israel enough.

00:03:53.440 I think you're right.

00:03:55.020 You say enough.

00:03:56.000 I don't know if he's pro-Israel at all.

00:03:58.640 He pretends to be pro-Israel, but he doesn't back it up, basically.

00:04:03.300 Why do you think Justin Trudeau is not coming today?

00:04:05.920 I just said that.

00:04:07.040 You just said that.

00:04:08.160 I just said that.

00:04:09.120 First of all, it's wrong.

00:04:10.480 He should support and stand with the Jewish people because what happened is horrendous.

00:04:16.080 And we have zero support from our mayor from Quebec and from Montreal mayor.

00:04:21.520 Why is Justin Trudeau not here?

00:04:23.220 Well, because I don't think Justin Trudeau is a politician who's afraid to actually articulate

00:04:28.060 anything.

00:04:28.740 He's not here and he's not there.

00:04:30.720 Justin Trudeau should decide what side he's on.

00:04:32.600 Is he on the side of the terrorists or on the side of a democratic country who's the ally

00:04:36.500 of all the Western world?

00:04:38.360 I got a question for folks here.

00:04:39.540 Why do you think Justin Trudeau is not coming today?

00:04:42.980 Yeah, he's kind of not on side enough.

00:04:46.340 I agree.

00:04:47.200 Well, on side enough.

00:04:48.220 Is he on side at all?

00:04:52.680 He's in the middle.

00:04:53.740 He's like, you know, how the liberals, they always abstain at the UN.

00:04:57.120 Hey, I got a question for you.

00:04:58.180 Why is Justin Trudeau not here?

00:04:59.720 We know he's in the city, but why is he refusing to come to the rally?

00:05:03.620 It's unbelievable.

00:05:06.620 This guy's a leader of the country.

00:05:08.240 He should actually lead.

00:05:09.420 Why do you think Justin Trudeau's not here today?

00:05:11.840 That's a very interesting question.

00:05:14.560 He's just up the block.

00:05:15.460 I understand he's in Ottawa all day.

00:05:17.180 I understand he's not coming today, though.

00:05:19.020 Why do you think that is?

00:05:20.960 I think he has been very incoherent in terms of his positioning.

00:05:29.360 He's, he has not come out and shown the Jewish community that he stands against terrorism,

00:05:40.100 against the evil that we see happening, and against the rising anti-Semitism happening

00:05:47.840 in Canada and around the world.

00:05:49.980 I don't feel that he's been loud enough.

00:05:53.700 I don't feel that he's taken enough actions to counter the rise in anti-Semitism.

00:05:59.640 Where did you come in from?

00:06:01.000 I actually live in Ottawa.

00:06:02.360 Oh, there you go.

00:06:03.140 You know who else is just in Ottawa a few blocks away is Justin Trudeau.

00:06:06.240 Why is he not coming today?

00:06:07.740 I, um, I think that his, um, interests are not entirely aligned with ours.

00:06:14.260 And what do you mean by that?

00:06:15.780 I, I think that he could be more supportive of Israel.

00:06:18.840 Do you think it's because he's counting the votes and he thinks the pro-Hamas side is

00:06:23.520 more numerous than the pro-Israel side?

00:06:26.680 I, I don't think that he has, um, the courage to stand for what's right when it's required.

00:06:32.520 Well, why is he not here today?

00:06:34.600 Uh, because he doesn't actually stand with the Jews unless it's for photo ops.

00:06:39.520 Um, and he's afraid to be seen supporting an event like this because a lot of his supporters

00:06:45.160 would not support an event like this.

00:06:47.120 Hey, I got a question for you.

00:06:48.360 Justin Trudeau's in town today, but he's not coming.

00:06:52.220 Do you think he should be here?

00:06:54.100 He should, but he will not show up.

00:06:56.320 And why do you think that is?

00:06:57.360 Because he would get booed mightily.

00:07:00.040 I hope Pierre shows up.

00:07:01.540 Why do you think Justin Trudeau's not here?

00:07:03.120 He's in the city.

00:07:03.980 Why do you think he's not here today?

00:07:05.840 That's a great question.

00:07:07.340 I don't know.

00:07:08.640 Do you have a guess?

00:07:09.800 Your guess is as good as mine.

00:07:11.580 I don't know.

00:07:11.920 He's busy doing something, uh, less important.

00:07:15.360 I don't know.

00:07:16.060 Why do you think Justin Trudeau's not here today?

00:07:19.180 Well, that's a very good question.

00:07:20.700 He'd be well advised to be here.

00:07:23.180 But why do you think he chose not to be here?

00:07:25.100 He's in town.

00:07:26.620 He's just a few blocks away.

00:07:28.140 Why do you think he's not coming?

00:07:30.400 I couldn't tell you why he's not coming.

00:07:32.180 He's not coming and he should be here.

00:07:34.660 Justin Trudeau's not coming today.

00:07:36.500 He's in the city.

00:07:37.900 Why do you think he's not coming?

00:07:39.040 It's not shocking that Justin Trudeau's not coming here today.

00:07:43.960 I think we're all very clear on where his party stands at the moment.

00:07:49.340 I think it's time for him to think about politics first and try to win an election in this country

00:07:54.520 instead of doing what's right.

00:07:55.860 Well, I think it's sort of obvious why Justin Trudeau didn't come today.

00:07:59.400 I don't think there would be a lot of people clapping for him.

00:08:02.280 And I think there would be quite a few booing for him.

00:08:04.800 One of the first speakers today, though, was a Trudeau liberal named Anthony Housefather

00:08:10.380 who's really, really pro-Israel.

00:08:13.140 Just ask him.

00:08:14.100 In fact, he went to Israel recently, so that's proof of it.

00:08:18.320 I'm sure Anthony Housefather as an individual is pro-Israel,

00:08:22.100 but he supports a prime minister who is the most hostile leader towards Israel in the G7.

00:08:29.100 Here's a quick snippet of what Housefather said.

00:08:31.440 And again, it was fine as far as it went.

00:08:33.860 But I think he was here as a token Jew for the Liberal Party to assuage the people here 1.00

00:08:39.640 while Trudeau is doing whatever he's doing just down the street.

00:08:43.020 Here's a clip of Housefather.

00:08:44.480 Last week, we went to Israel.

00:08:47.900 We visited Kfaraza and Sterot.

00:08:51.440 We saw bullet holes and blood traces and cars that were run off the road when their occupants were killed.

00:08:57.660 We heard from survivors stories of rape, torture, and murder.

00:09:03.440 We met with families of Canadians who were massacred and with families of the hostages.

00:09:09.300 We did this so that we could bear witness.

00:09:13.080 We did this so that we can confirm to everyone that a pogrom happened in Israel on October the 7th.

00:09:20.080 Except that instead of Cossacks, this pogrom was carried out by the terrorist group Hamas. 0.81

00:09:25.400 We did this so that we could better explain to all Canadians why the destruction of Hamas

00:09:32.240 was not only in the best interest of Israel, but also of the Palestinian people of Canada and of the world.

00:09:38.880 As a member of Parliament and as a proud Jewish-Canadian, the last few weeks have left me very angry.

00:09:49.800 Angry that as soon as Hamas murdered Israelis, people started making justifications.

00:09:55.900 Angry that at the United Nations and world agencies, Israel is treated differently than every other country.

00:10:01.980 Angry that after the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust, there's been an upsurge in Jew hate across the world,

00:10:18.500 including in our own country.

00:10:21.000 Angry that in my own city, bullet holes were found in schools and Molotov cocktails thrown against a synagogue.

00:10:27.840 Angry that on campuses, Jewish students feel that they can't be safe.

00:10:34.720 Angry that a small minority of people march and call for the boycott of Jewish businesses

00:10:40.460 and yell slogans that most Jews interpret as a call for the destruction of Israel

00:10:45.340 and the destruction of the Jewish people.

00:10:48.400 And so let me tell you what I'm grateful for this Hanukkah.

00:10:51.660 I'm grateful that 2023 is not 1943.

00:10:55.620 I'm grateful that Israel exists and has an army to fight back against those who launched a pogrom.

00:11:08.820 I am grateful that in Canada, our Jewish community is 400,000 strong,

00:11:13.400 and we live in a country where we've contributed beyond measure,

00:11:17.120 and we've been given opportunities that our ancestors never dreamed of.

00:11:20.980 Today, there are eight Jewish members of the House of Commons and three of the Senate.

00:11:26.460 The leader of the government in the House and in the Senate

00:11:29.000 and the deputy leader of the opposition are all Jewish.

00:11:32.220 But much more importantly, we have non-Jewish allies, 0.92

00:11:39.940 people like Marco Mendicino and Michelle Rempel and Dini Kader.

00:11:47.560 And all of you out there who are not from the Jewish community

00:11:50.580 who are standing with us in solidarity.

00:11:52.720 Much more warmly received was the Conservative MP, Melissa Lantzman.

00:12:00.800 She obliquely criticized the Liberal Party, but I guess restrained herself a bit,

00:12:05.960 didn't mention Trudeau by name.

00:12:07.880 Here's a clip from her speech, which had a very strong support.

00:12:11.700 More than 40 MPs in this place have publicly called for a ceasefire in the face of terror.

00:12:21.480 And Canada has somehow become a country that abandoned our long-standing principled position

00:12:28.160 and opted for mealy-mouthed platitudes from far too many,

00:12:32.800 in far too many legislatures across the country.

00:12:35.840 And nobody in power has offered more than statements of what they're doing to protect us.

00:12:42.420 It was easy to be pro-Israel when this first happened, and it's much harder now.

00:12:48.280 And now we see who they really are.

00:12:53.540 I want you to know that this isn't over.

00:12:56.740 That this isn't over until the 137 hostages come home.

00:13:01.460 It is not over until the boycott of Jewish businesses, the targeting of Jewish schools,

00:13:10.380 the shootings and the firebombings of synagogues.

00:13:13.580 It is not over until those who commit those crimes are behind bars.

00:13:18.460 It is not over until the organizations who purport to stand up for women's rights 0.97

00:13:28.000 recognize that the brutal sexual violence and rape against Israeli women is not resistance.

00:13:35.760 It's barbarism.

00:13:37.140 And there is no defense of this.

00:13:39.600 And that's why they deny it.

00:13:41.740 It is not over until the professors and the university administrators who wrap themselves

00:13:53.140 in woke, progressive ideology, who have created an environment where Jewish students feel unsafe, 0.74

00:14:00.300 are fired for standing with terrorism rather than civilization.

00:14:04.800 And it is not over.

00:14:06.280 It is not over until every politician in this country condemn the faceless, mask-wearing, 1.00

00:14:13.640 screaming mobs who are illegally inciting hatred in our street.

00:14:17.880 It is not over, especially until every city hall and every public square do not succumb to

00:14:24.740 the anti-Semitic mobs and they put two menorahs up and they let that fire burn.

00:14:32.200 Everybody thinks everything is fine.

00:14:35.060 It's not fine.

00:14:36.940 And we are not going to go away until this is fixed.

00:14:40.540 Michelle Rempel-Garner is not going anywhere.

00:14:42.940 Marty Morantz from Winnipeg is not going anywhere.

00:14:46.000 Our leader Pierre Polyev is not going anywhere.

00:14:48.560 And I am not going anywhere.

00:14:50.920 When everybody else is silent, we will make sure that they hear that silence.

00:14:56.800 When everybody lets us down, we will call them out.

00:14:59.560 And when they betray us, we will vote them out.

00:15:02.120 As I moved towards the stage earlier, I bumped into the newest member of parliament,

00:15:07.880 Shuvuloy Majumdar from Southwest Calgary.

00:15:10.740 Here's what he had to say.

00:15:12.580 Shuvuloy Majumdar, MP for Calgary Southwest, thanks for stopping to say hello.

00:15:16.420 Why are you here?

00:15:17.380 Yeah.

00:15:17.820 Solidarity with the people of Israel at a time of great trial and tribulation.

00:15:20.980 This is something that I think is impacting our communities across Canada in devastating ways.

00:15:26.360 We see mobs on the streets, people whose hearts have turned to darkness.

00:15:29.940 And this is about peace.

00:15:31.780 It's about freedom.

00:15:32.620 It's about confronting Hamas and the apparatus that supports it and dismantling it once and for all. 0.66

00:15:37.680 I don't want to make this too political or partisan, but it does behoove me to ask,

00:15:42.360 why has Justin Trudeau been reluctant to be as pro-Israel as other world leaders?

00:15:47.840 For example, he's the only G7 leader other than the Japanese not to visit Israel.

00:15:52.280 What do you think is going on on the other side of the aisle?

00:15:54.460 You know, it's a test to see how strong somebody's moral convictions really are.

00:15:59.140 Since the outset of this, I've been saying to people across the country,

00:16:02.820 pay attention to those who stand up for Israel, those who stand up for the Jewish people,

00:16:07.060 because when it gets tough, it's when it tests your mettle.

00:16:09.100 And I think the prime minister's actions are tragically showing what his constitution is truly made of.

00:16:15.100 I agree, this shouldn't be a partisan moment.

00:16:17.080 And I'd encourage him and his cabinet to find their voice and say and do the right things

00:16:22.180 by the people of Canada and by the people of Israel.

00:16:24.180 As you can see, it's bitter cold here.

00:16:26.140 Reminds me a little bit of the trucker convoy almost two years ago now, I guess.

00:16:31.540 It was cold then, too.

00:16:32.920 One of the most fiery speeches was from a rabbi in Montreal named Rabbi Pupko,

00:16:39.100 and he was very passionate.

00:16:40.940 I especially liked his attack on the lying mainstream media.

00:16:45.980 Here, I'll let him, I'll let you hear him for himself.

00:16:49.080 Take a listen.

00:16:49.560 October 7th has brought us great clarity, painful and tragic clarity.

00:16:58.400 Illusions here and in Israel have evaporated.

00:17:03.900 October 7th is a hinge point.

00:17:06.820 We see the world for what it is.

00:17:10.180 We see it clearly and without any veils.

00:17:13.560 The masks are off.

00:17:16.260 The delusions are gone.

00:17:18.900 We understand the world we live in with honesty and clarity.

00:17:24.080 We see the adversary with clarity.

00:17:27.120 No one here needs to be reminded of all the images and all the stories and all the videos that we have seen over the past eight weeks of medieval carnage and brutality for which our vocabulary has no words.

00:17:45.380 You know, we have journalists here, and they're all wonderful, but I'll tell you, not all journalists are.

00:17:53.600 We see journalists with greater clarity.

00:17:56.340 You all remember the story of the hospital, how within moments we're told a building is destroyed.

00:18:03.940 500 people are dead.

00:18:05.800 And within hours, we all knew the truth, even though it took days for the New York Times and others to apologize.

00:18:18.640 And more than that, and I said it the first day, let's see.

00:18:23.900 This is a test.

00:18:25.760 Will the same journalists who were duped by the Hamas Ministry of Health, say those words without laughing.

00:18:33.440 The Hamas Ministry of Health, days after they said that lie about the hospital, they put out numbers about civilian casualties.

00:18:43.540 And journalists like stenographers write them down and report them with credibility.

00:18:49.240 You were lied to.

00:18:51.320 You were deceived.

00:18:52.740 And you keep believing the liars.

00:18:55.800 It makes no sense.

00:18:57.480 We see the U.N. with clarity.

00:19:08.360 He says, as the Secretary General, that October 7th has a context.

00:19:16.100 It has a context.

00:19:17.820 Years and years of incitement.

00:19:20.120 U.N. women silent for eight weeks about the rape of our daughters. 0.95

00:19:24.580 We see them with clarity now.

00:19:26.800 I really like that.

00:19:28.820 I noticed that the rabbi did not talk about the hypocrisy of Justin Trudeau, the prime minister.

00:19:34.360 He very obliquely alluded to it.

00:19:36.780 But I guess that's why he's a successful political operator, which a rabbi of that, I guess, senior status has to be. 0.81

00:19:46.280 What I liked is there was an emphasis on non-Jewish supporters.

00:19:50.400 On the stage, there were speakers from different Gentile communities.

00:19:53.980 My favorite, as always, are the Persians.

00:19:56.840 These are people from Iran who themselves have been abused by the Islamic dictatorship there.

00:20:02.700 Here, take a look.

00:20:03.540 I stand here as a proof to reassure you that other communities care about you.

00:20:10.860 And I'm not alone.

00:20:13.740 Many Canadians of Iranian heritage are in the crowd.

00:20:18.560 Former political prisoners in Iran and many activists from our community are here in the crowd to stand shoulder to shoulder with you.

00:20:27.860 Many Iranians in Iran have asked me to convey their message of love and support for you and for Israel.

00:20:40.700 The hashtag, Iranian stand with Israel, we're trending on Twitter right after we woke up to the horrors of the October 7th.

00:20:55.040 Because we know, we know, we know what the evils look like.

00:21:02.180 We have been fighting them for the past 44 years.

00:21:05.860 While Iranian people risked their lives to stand with Israel, we have here in Canada and in other democratic countries,

00:21:21.340 the so-called progressives who find themselves justifying the horrors that happened over the past couple of months.

00:21:30.300 I urge them to go and visit Tehran.

00:21:39.000 Go see the destruction and suffering committed by the same kind of monsters who attacked Israel on October 7th. 0.86

00:21:47.580 But of course, the most heartbreaking moment today was when family members of the terrorist victims themselves spoke.

00:21:55.220 A number of people spoke, including these parents of children who were murdered at that Nova dance party right near the border.

00:22:04.860 We are Raquel and Alain Luke.

00:22:07.460 We stand before you with broken hearts, heavy with inconsolable grief.

00:22:15.420 On the morning of October 7th, we received a call from our beautiful son and heard everything.

00:22:24.900 As our heroic, brilliant angel, Alexong, was taken from us, murdered in the senseless and brutal Hamas terrorist massacre at the Nova Music Festival.

00:22:43.340 A party for peace and love.

00:22:46.340 We stand here, not just as grieving parents, but as proud Canadians who have witnessed firsthand the resilience and strength of our Jewish nation.

00:23:02.460 Our son's young life was tragically cut short, but his legacy will forever shine as a beacon of love, courage, and sacrifice in the face of danger and pure evil.

00:23:20.940 He put himself in front of others to protect them, saving lives on that Black Saturday.

00:23:28.260 The Talmud teaches us that he who saves one life is as though he has saved the entire world.

00:23:38.060 Alexong's memory will live on in the hearts of all who knew him.

00:23:43.080 A beautiful, caring soul who embodied the true spirit of

00:23:48.480 All of Israel is responsible for one another. 1.00

00:23:56.020 Did you know there is still a Canadian citizen being held hostage by Hamas?

00:24:01.200 You wouldn't know it, guessing by Justin Trudeau's silence on the matter.

00:24:06.300 Her kids spoke today.

00:24:09.580 She was a real, she is, if she's still alive, God willing, she is a real peacenik, someone who tried to make peace with Hamas.

00:24:16.640 I think her children were still dazed, not only by her kidnapping, but their whole worldview has taken a battering, realizing that, no, I don't think Hamas is the same as Israel, and no, I don't think they do really want peace.

00:24:32.840 Take a look, and I'm very sorry to show their statement.

00:24:35.780 Hello, my name is Larry Weinstein.

00:24:40.460 This is my daughter, Allie Weinstein.

00:24:44.160 We are, I am the brother of the only Canadian hostage, the only missing Canadian right now, Judy Weinstein, Judy Weinstein Hagai.

00:24:55.520 She, she was born in New York, but she lived in Toronto from the time she was three until her mid-twenties.

00:25:03.600 She then moved to Israel, where she fell in love and created a life with her husband, Gadi Hagai, their four children, and later their seven grandchildren.

00:25:14.560 They lived on kibbutz near Oz.

00:25:17.020 On October 7th, Judy and Gadi went, on their daily morning walk, outside the kibbutz.

00:25:25.380 They encountered terrorists, and Judy called for help, saying they had both been shot, Gadi fatally.

00:25:33.840 Since then, we have had no information about their whereabouts.

00:25:39.660 They both are being held hostage in Gaza, and we don't know if Judy's alive.

00:25:47.020 All we want, all we want, all we want, to bring them home, yes.

00:25:53.780 Bring them home, bring them home.

00:25:57.420 All we want is to bring Judy home. 1.00

00:26:02.380 We want to hold her, we want to embrace her, we want to help heal her wounds.

00:26:07.720 We're calling on the Canadian government to get to the negotiating table and demand that Judy, the only missing Canadian, the only Canadian hostage in Gaza, be returned home.

00:26:20.520 But also, we as the family of Judy, a peace-loving person, we're calling for the end of this horrific cycle of violence that endangers every innocent person in Israel and in Palestine, 0.53

00:26:38.800 and endangers all of us in the diaspora by fueling this recent overwhelming wave of anti-Semitism around the world.

00:26:47.600 We're all feeling it.

00:26:49.140 We all, we want all the hostages to come home.

00:26:52.500 We want Judy to come home. 1.00

00:26:54.040 You know, I asked a question to a number of the ralliers today that I asked when I was in London, England, 10 days ago at their big rally for Israel,

00:27:04.440 and that is, I look at the people who are behind the pro-Hamas hate marches in the street,

00:27:11.080 and I can't help but notice that the overwhelming majority of them are new immigrants who have brought with them a hatred for Jews that they were inculcated with back in the home country, 1.00

00:27:23.280 whether that was Syria or Afghanistan or Pakistan or northern Africa.

00:27:28.100 They didn't learn that anti-Semitism in Canada.

00:27:31.880 They maybe had it fine-tuned in our woke universities, but the people marching in the streets generally are not university grads.

00:27:38.980 They're just plain anti-Semites from Muslim countries where Jew hatred is normal. 1.00

00:27:44.480 So I asked a number of people, should we change our open borders immigration policy?

00:27:49.360 And just like in London, England, so many of the Jews here just wouldn't let go of their liberal dream of open borders. 0.82

00:27:57.960 Here's a sample.

00:27:59.220 Let me throw an idea.

00:28:00.260 You're just spitballing here. 0.93

00:28:01.440 Canada has an enormous immigration level from countries where anti-Semitism is endemic.

00:28:09.440 Do you think we should change that, both the number and the quality of immigrant? 1.00

00:28:16.900 I'm not going to speak to that because in my mind, what you have to tell immigrants is that if you come with prejudices, leave them behind or don't come.

00:28:25.920 We're not saying that right now.

00:28:27.100 There's no values test.

00:28:29.700 This is still...

00:28:31.000 Do we need a values test?

00:28:33.440 Maybe.

00:28:34.640 Maybe.

00:28:35.200 I don't want to sound like Donald Trump, but maybe.

00:28:38.560 I think the whole point has to be that people have to come to this country knowing that it is a melting pot.

00:28:45.160 That we celebrate diversity, but we also protect diversity.

00:28:49.860 It's the two sides of the same coin.

00:28:52.400 You can't celebrate it and not protect it.

00:28:54.260 I think when there's half a million or a million immigrants every year, and many of them come from countries where anti-Semitism is endemic, it's only a matter of time before the anti-Semitic vote in this country is actually sizable.

00:29:11.260 Do you think that we should reduce the number of immigrants or, at the very least, have a Canadian values test? 1.00

00:29:19.800 Well, I think that not every immigrant that comes in here is going to be anti-Semitic.

00:29:24.400 Right.

00:29:24.600 So they would pass the values test.

00:29:26.100 You know, but what their children do afterwards is another thing.

00:29:31.240 There seems to be an indoctrination somehow in the age group of our children today that has turned them in an opposite direction from how their parents were raised.

00:29:41.360 I think that's true in many of our institutions.

00:29:44.080 But I think people who come here directly from Syria or Afghanistan or Pakistan, many of them have a longstanding national hatred towards Jews.

00:29:54.540 That's not my guessing.

00:29:55.960 That's what those countries say.

00:29:57.980 Yep.

00:29:58.300 That's what they say.

00:29:59.480 So why are we—should we do something about it?

00:30:04.520 I think it's up to our children to start thinking about that.

00:30:07.540 Yeah.

00:30:07.860 Well, if we don't do something now, our children will be a little bit too late.

00:30:11.240 Yep.

00:30:11.940 You seem shy about saying, yes, pause immigration or slow down immigration.

00:30:16.960 No, Canada desperately needs immigration. 0.78

00:30:19.380 Really?

00:30:19.840 To drive up housing costs?

00:30:21.560 No, not to drive up housing costs.

00:30:22.900 To drive down wages?

00:30:24.120 No, not to drag down wages.

00:30:25.820 To get in line at our universities and hospital waiting rooms?

00:30:29.920 No, but—

00:30:30.680 What do we desperately need migrants for? 1.00

00:30:32.820 We obviously always need immigration. 1.00

00:30:36.120 But what if they're anti-Semitic?

00:30:38.600 Well, that's a problem for Canada.

00:30:40.740 Yes, it is.

00:30:41.340 And it's a problem for all Canadians, not just our community.

00:30:45.420 Right.

00:30:45.700 But you think that—you said that's something for our kids to talk about.

00:30:49.260 But don't you think if we leave it for our kids, if we leave it for another generation, we're lost?

00:30:54.060 They could very well be, yes.

00:30:55.600 My parents have said that about my generation, so now I'm saying it about theirs.

00:30:59.760 I've observed a lot of these hate marches across the country, and it's my observation that around 80% of them are newcomers, people who have immigrated to this country from places where anti-Semitism is endemic.

00:31:16.240 Do you think it's time Canada reassess our open borders immigration policy?

00:31:22.600 I can't comment on that, but I do think today's rally will be very peaceful, and I think we should all be proud of that.

00:31:27.820 I mean, can I ask why you can't comment on that?

00:31:30.300 I haven't attended.

00:31:32.280 No, no, I'm just talking about—I mean, surely you've seen the videos of these hate marches.

00:31:36.420 Many of them are people who just came here.

00:31:38.500 I don't think either of us are going to comment on that.

00:31:40.540 All right.

00:31:40.800 Are you guys in the political business?

00:31:42.100 Is that why?

00:31:42.860 We're both lawyers.

00:31:44.000 All right.

00:31:44.380 Your sign says, we are not afraid.

00:31:47.200 I think—I mean, that's an aspirational thing, not to be afraid, but I think many Jews actually are afraid.

00:31:54.240 I'm afraid.

00:31:55.460 Sure, I'm afraid of losing democracy.

00:31:57.780 I'm afraid of the social fabric falling apart.

00:32:01.140 I'm afraid that people don't really understand that love is a very important thing.

00:32:06.720 We have to stop the lies, stop the hatred.

00:32:09.620 Let's try to find peace.

00:32:11.160 Let's try to coexist.

00:32:12.020 All right.

00:32:13.460 Well, I want to press you on that because Canada has a massive open borders immigration policy.

00:32:20.180 My observation is that probably 80% of the people in the hate marches are either new immigrants or—

00:32:27.980 I mean, they are not old-stock Canadians.

00:32:31.020 They were brought here under mass immigration.

00:32:33.360 And I don't think you're going to convince them to love Jews or even to not hate Jews. 1.00

00:32:38.100 I just don't think so.

00:32:39.180 Some of the vitriol I've seen on the streets is insane.

00:32:41.820 Do you think that open borders immigration was a mistake?

00:32:46.300 First of all, I don't want anyone necessarily to love Jews. 0.53

00:32:49.920 I just want to be respected like any other human being.

00:32:52.560 Do you really think—you look at those hate marches, you think you're going to turn them around?

00:32:56.680 No, that's why I think we believe in the Mashiach. 0.98

00:33:00.460 I don't know if a man can solve this problem. 1.00

00:33:02.560 Can I ask you a harder question?

00:33:04.920 I've observed a lot of these hate marches, and by my observation, 75%, 80% of them are new Canadians, people we've opened the doors to in the last 20 years.

00:33:19.360 Do you think Canada ought to reconsider mass immigration?

00:33:23.580 I think that they should take a hard look at it for several reasons, one of which is housing.

00:33:28.880 Like, we're basically bringing these people in and saying, go live in homeless shelters because you won't be able to afford a place to live.

00:33:33.680 The other one is that a lot of them are not necessarily on board with the Canadian acceptance and tolerance and all of that stuff.

00:33:43.120 So that's what you're asking about.

00:33:44.820 I think it's worth a look.

00:33:46.440 I'm not a hardliner that would just say, you know, close our doors because they're intolerant of our way of life.

00:33:53.380 But I do think it needs to be revisited.

00:33:55.640 I think the Jewish community, which is because of its own experience, when Jews were trying to flee Nazi Germany and were turned away,

00:34:03.680 the Jews have been for open borders. 0.83

00:34:05.520 Not every Jew, but the official Jews. 0.99

00:34:09.040 And now the official Jews are finding it hard to say, we've got to close the doors because the Nazis are coming here now. 0.80

00:34:15.840 Yeah, that's right.

00:34:17.280 That's right.

00:34:17.960 I mean, you know, when the war was happening in Syria, there were so many Jewish people that were doing everything to have them come here.

00:34:26.420 To bring them here, to give them food, clothing, shelter.

00:34:31.380 We were collecting belongings for them.

00:34:33.860 So you helped bring Syrians here? 0.99

00:34:35.660 No, I didn't help personally bring Syrians here.

00:34:38.260 But what we did was we collected for them.

00:34:40.460 So when you say we?

00:34:41.600 Yeah.

00:34:42.000 So you were involved in helping?

00:34:43.200 Organizations.

00:34:43.660 So you helped organize?

00:34:44.920 Organizations, yes, that I was involved with.

00:34:47.080 Yes, we did that.

00:34:49.040 And, you know, you'll never forget the images, you know, that we've seen of, like, that little two-year-old child washed up on board, you know, in Europe, you know?

00:34:58.540 Like, that horrible scene that churned a lot of people in the last or two elections ago to that Koori child that was on the beach that was found dead.

00:35:08.820 Yeah, Kirti.

00:35:09.380 That migrant child, Kirti child. 1.00

00:35:10.940 So, I mean, there was a heck of a lot of sympathy for that, and rightly so. 0.79

00:35:17.780 No child should have to worry about his security, and that means no child anywhere in the world.

00:35:26.500 Nobody's value is less than anyone else's value.

00:35:29.120 Does Canada really have to take them all, though?

00:35:31.980 To take them all?

00:35:33.080 Well, we're taking a million people a year.

00:35:34.400 Canada's government was elected by a lot of people who will have to speak up on that issue, not just me.

00:35:43.920 Well, I'm glad to have been here.

00:35:46.300 I'm used to coming to Ottawa in the biting cold.

00:35:49.180 It's not as cold as it was a year and a half ago during the trucker convoy.

00:35:53.040 One of the first speakers said they have come here to Ottawa because this is the place of democracy, the place of our common values, and they want to be heard.

00:36:01.720 I think it's falling on deaf ears.

00:36:04.020 Justin Trudeau doesn't give a damn.

00:36:05.960 He's done the math.

00:36:07.200 There are five times as many Muslim Canadians as Jewish Canadians, and even though I would like to think that most Muslims are not antipathetic towards the Jews,

00:36:15.640 enough of them are that there is significant voting bloc, especially in places Justin Trudeau wants to hold on to, like Mississauga, like some of the suburbs and other parts of the country.

00:36:25.940 And it's so clear to me now that every day the problem gets worse.

00:36:31.300 Justin Trudeau has doubled immigration numbers to a million a year, and many of the people who are fomenting hatred, I mean, of course there are some indigenous Canadians, and by that I mean Canadian-born,

00:36:42.560 but most of them are brought here anti-Semitic, and that has not stopped.

00:36:47.460 And I have to say, Pierre Polyev hasn't talked about reducing immigration numbers either, has he?

00:36:53.240 Well, that's our show for today.

00:36:55.260 I'll be back in the snugly warm studio tomorrow.

00:36:59.040 Until then, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel News, to you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

00:37:04.760 I'll be right back.

00:37:16.840 Pleadices.

00:37:17.560 Let's go.

00:37:21.920 Bye.

00:37:26.640 Bye.

00:37:30.620 Bye.

00:37:31.560 Bye.

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Rebel News Podcast - December 06, 2023

Canada stands with Israel — not the cowardly Trudeau Liberals

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