Rebel News Podcast - November 17, 2018


Canada’s largest journalism union announces it will campaign against the Conservative Party


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On this episode of the Ezra Levenant Show, Ezra takes a look at the latest front cover of Canadian conservative leader Andrew Scheer's campaign against the Conservatives. Plus, why is there no Canadian Prime Minister on the cover of a conservative magazine?

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00:00:00.000 Tonight, Canada's largest journalism union announces it will campaign against the Conservatives.
00:00:06.160 I appreciate their honesty. It's November 16th and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:00:16.400 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:20.280 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:24.000 You come here once a year with a sign and you feel morally superior.
00:00:26.980 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:00:38.060 Here's the front cover of a recent copy of Maclean's magazine.
00:00:42.160 You might not know who they all are.
00:00:44.520 That's Andrew Scheer, the federal conservative leader in the middle there.
00:00:48.220 To his right is Jason Kenney, the Alberta opposition leader who will probably be Alberta's premier next year.
00:00:53.580 And the other is from left to right. Obviously, it's Doug Ford, premier of Ontario.
00:00:57.700 Then that's Brian Pallister of Manitoba.
00:01:00.380 And on the right there, that's Scott Moe of Saskatchewan.
00:01:04.240 They're against the carbon tax and that's the theme of the story.
00:01:07.400 Now, Maclean's magazine isn't really a thing anymore.
00:01:09.940 They used to be published weekly.
00:01:11.340 They were once the leading news magazine in Canada.
00:01:13.840 That's not even a thing anymore.
00:01:15.940 Now, Maclean's barely publishes once a month.
00:01:19.020 And most of its staff has just been let go.
00:01:21.900 And Rogers, which owns it, has put it up for sale.
00:01:24.880 I guess you could say it's sad, but that's what happened to a lot of magazines.
00:01:29.720 And Maclean's really lost its way.
00:01:30.940 This cover is an anomaly that they have any conservatives on it at all.
00:01:35.220 Normally, it's just liberal propaganda.
00:01:38.180 I mean, seriously, Donald Trump ate our lunch in an afternoon renegotiation.
00:01:43.000 But they called our disastrous negotiator God's gift to Canada.
00:01:47.660 It was so cringeworthy.
00:01:50.120 Yikes.
00:01:50.600 I've lost track of how many of their covers feature loving pictures of Trudeau on them.
00:01:56.140 I guess they thought that everyone in Canada just loves Trudeau as much as they do.
00:02:01.800 But the fact that they're being sold for scraps suggests otherwise.
00:02:04.920 Oh, well.
00:02:05.880 Back to the latest cover, the resistance with those five conservatives on the cover.
00:02:10.000 I'm not sure why those leaders posed for that picture the way they did.
00:02:14.540 Put it back up on the screen for a second.
00:02:16.280 Let's show it.
00:02:17.740 Does it look like a sign of strength?
00:02:20.240 Yeah, maybe.
00:02:20.880 I think it makes them look like a group of bankers or something.
00:02:23.760 Almost the Libranos looking tough, stiff, and angry. 1.00
00:02:27.500 Maybe that's what they want to telegraph?
00:02:29.140 To tap into voter anger at things?
00:02:31.760 I don't know.
00:02:32.440 My view is that you can never trust the mainstream media to be fair to you,
00:02:36.500 especially with photos.
00:02:38.820 Especially.
00:02:39.200 I mean, take the gorgeous Melania Trump. 1.00
00:02:44.900 These are covers of her before she was first lady.
00:02:49.820 She was a supermodel. 1.00
00:02:51.560 She graced every fashion magazine in her day.
00:02:55.300 You'd think that now that she's first lady, 1.00
00:02:58.340 the media would feast on her beauty and her style. 0.97
00:03:01.700 She's exotic, speaks many languages.
00:03:03.880 But she has not been on a single cover of a fashion magazine or a popular magazine in two years.
00:03:12.560 I mean, she's gorgeous, obviously. 0.89
00:03:14.900 The somewhat less compelling Michelle Obama was constantly on covers as first lady.
00:03:22.140 Every magazine thinkable.
00:03:24.140 Every magazine thinkable.
00:03:25.140 Why not Melania?
00:03:26.140 Melania.
00:03:28.620 And when Melania is photographed at all, the only pictures that ever make it to publication are those with her not smiling.
00:03:35.960 We all have moments in the day where we're not smiling.
00:03:38.560 Those are the only ones that are used.
00:03:39.960 There is a strong media narrative that Melania is deeply unhappy,
00:03:43.920 that she is somehow trapped in her marriage to Donald Trump or something.
00:03:47.400 It's pure fiction.
00:03:48.360 The media speculation went nuts when she wasn't seen with Trump for a few days,
00:03:52.480 only to have it revealed that she had been in the hospital with minor surgery.
00:03:56.680 If you go on Google, you can actually find plenty of happy pictures with Melania and Donald Trump smiling at each other.
00:04:04.800 But you have never seen them on CNN or CBC or the Globe and Mail, the Toronto Star.
00:04:09.820 The narrative is that she is either evil herself or that she is deeply happy and actually trapped by Donald Trump.
00:04:17.340 And will someone please free her or something?
00:04:19.820 Oh, by the way, has Sophie Trudeau been photographed within 10 feet of Justin Trudeau lately?
00:04:28.600 Not that I have seen.
00:04:29.580 Melania was out of the public eye for a week and the conspiracy theories went nuts. 0.99
00:04:34.900 They were getting a divorce.
00:04:36.500 No such curiosity about Sophie Trudeau's invisibility.
00:04:39.780 I think their grand family vacation to India at taxpayers' expense was really their last quality time together.
00:04:47.700 I'm not in the gossip business, but the rest of the media is.
00:04:51.320 They're quiet on Sophie Trudeau, though, aren't they?
00:04:54.320 All of those points are my long-witted tangents about McLean's and photo editing.
00:05:00.240 But really, I wanted to show you that resistance front cover that I think looked a bit daunting, a bit wrong.
00:05:08.460 I don't think it looks good, but I could be mistaken.
00:05:10.540 Maybe I'm wrong.
00:05:10.920 But what is not mistakable is how many people mocked that pose with satirical takes of their own.
00:05:21.800 Again, that goes to my theory that it was a bad picture to take, deliberately embarrassing and mockable.
00:05:28.860 I could be wrong.
00:05:30.520 But really, it is highly mockable.
00:05:32.880 It is.
00:05:33.760 Or memeable, as the kids say.
00:05:36.380 And one of those memes was made by a big union called Unifor.
00:05:43.320 And you can see the president of Unifor in the middle there.
00:05:47.320 His name is Jerry Diaz.
00:05:49.120 Other executives with him.
00:05:50.220 And you can see their caption, the resistance.
00:05:51.940 Same font as the cover of McLean's.
00:05:54.480 Welcome to Andrew Scheer's worst nightmare.
00:05:57.860 And that was tweeted on the official Unifor Twitter account.
00:06:01.080 So not a lot of doubt about whose side that union is on.
00:06:04.640 They will surely register as a third-party campaign group in the upcoming election to re-elect Trudeau.
00:06:10.900 You'll recall that Jerry Diaz was actually part of Justin Trudeau's disastrous advisory committee on the NAFTA deal.
00:06:17.760 So Trudeau and Diaz are already buddies.
00:06:19.860 But apparently, every single member of Unifor is now being conscripted into being a liberal, too, with their union dues, like it or not.
00:06:32.100 Now, I don't know how many conservatives are working for Unifor.
00:06:35.560 Probably a bunch, at least in Alberta, especially in the oil sands.
00:06:38.620 I don't know how many NDPers are in Unifor.
00:06:41.760 But whatever.
00:06:43.260 They have to pay their union dues so that Jerry Diaz can act out being Andrew Scheer's worst enemy.
00:06:50.260 And just in case it wasn't clear enough, Diaz retweeted it again.
00:06:54.260 Again, we will stop Scheer's stupidity.
00:06:58.120 Oh, that's a pun.
00:06:59.740 That's a pun, everybody.
00:07:02.540 But here's the thing.
00:07:04.980 Unifor represents thousands of Canadian journalists, as in reporters.
00:07:11.540 There's a reporters union.
00:07:12.660 Sort of weird, but there is one.
00:07:14.580 Those reporters cover Andrew Scheer professionally as a subject in the news.
00:07:21.340 News reporters on TV, news reporters in newspapers.
00:07:24.620 Here's the Unifor handbook to their reporters union.
00:07:29.460 If you skip ahead to page six, you'll see a list of some of the news reporters who are part of Unifor, the union.
00:07:37.960 I'm going to read three full paragraphs here, just so you see how widespread this is.
00:07:42.760 So don't get bored.
00:07:43.640 I just want to read it to you.
00:07:45.400 Local 87M represents the bulk of members at some of the largest national and provincial dailies,
00:07:52.780 including the Globe and Mail, Toronto Star, London Free Press, the Toronto Sun, and Hamilton Spectator.
00:07:57.020 On the West Coast, Local 2000 represents members of the Vancouver Sun in the province,
00:08:02.080 as well as at various Glacier, Black Press, and Continental-owned newspapers across B.C.
00:08:07.980 as well as some print shops.
00:08:10.740 Local 191 represents workers at five different newspapers,
00:08:13.960 including the Winnipeg Free Press, Brandon Sun, Thunder Bay Chronicle, Lethbridge Herald, and the Winnipeg Sun.
00:08:19.400 Local 145 represents members in Quebec, including Le Tribune newspaper in Sherbrooke.
00:08:24.600 In the broadcast sector, Unifor is best known as the Local TV Union Local M1,
00:08:30.040 represents global TV stations across Canada, as well as independent stations CHCH Hamilton and Check TV in Victoria.
00:08:35.680 A variety of other vocals represent local TV staff at Bell Media, CTV, Rogers, Patterson,
00:08:41.500 and other independent TV and radio stations.
00:08:43.960 I'll stop there.
00:08:44.920 But that's pretty much almost everybody.
00:08:48.160 I'll mention another union in a moment that's just as bad,
00:08:50.700 and they cover off a lot of the rest of the media, including the CBC.
00:08:54.020 But basically, the reporters of the Globe and Mail and CTV and the Toronto Star,
00:08:59.440 well, they have announced they're going to war.
00:09:04.400 They are campaigning against some of the people they claim they're reporting on neutrally,
00:09:09.800 the Conservatives.
00:09:10.460 And they're going to war on behalf of some of the people they claim they're reporting on neutrally,
00:09:16.620 the Liberals.
00:09:18.260 Now, obviously, they don't represent everyone in the Union.
00:09:21.920 I listed the Toronto Sun there.
00:09:23.660 I can't believe they're all Trudeau lovers there at the Sun.
00:09:26.740 But can you show me a single journalist anywhere in Canada
00:09:30.040 who is actually doing anything about this outrage,
00:09:33.280 moving a motion at a union meeting to vote against this, to rescind this,
00:09:37.460 I don't know, running to be a shop steward
00:09:40.860 or running to be the president of a union local
00:09:43.660 to put a stop to this politicization of the union,
00:09:46.960 maybe even suing or threatening to sue the union
00:09:49.780 for forcing them to campaign against someone they're reporting on,
00:09:53.520 even starting a new politically nonpartisan rival union for political journalists?
00:10:00.260 Not one.
00:10:01.800 Don't be silly.
00:10:02.620 I mean, you can't even imagine if they had done the opposite,
00:10:07.100 endorsed a conservative.
00:10:08.360 That's not even physically, scientifically possible.
00:10:11.700 It would never happen.
00:10:13.280 And if it did happen, there would be judicial inquiries
00:10:16.060 about the independence of the media and election meddling.
00:10:19.720 I mean, I just showed you in that little graphic by Jerry Diaz
00:10:23.020 more evidence of journalistic meddling in the Canadian election
00:10:26.840 than there is evidence of Russian meddling in the election, don't you think?
00:10:30.780 But this isn't even news.
00:10:33.600 Here's a list of the super PACs, to use a U.S. phrase,
00:10:37.600 the third-party campaign groups who registered with Elections Canada
00:10:40.840 to campaign against Stephen Harper in the 2015 election.
00:10:44.380 As you can see, there's over 100 here,
00:10:47.120 and it's a list of any groups who campaigned in the last election,
00:10:50.680 but I went through them, and all of them,
00:10:52.960 except for one that I could identify,
00:10:55.360 were against Harper.
00:10:56.360 There's too many to even list.
00:10:57.740 It's over 100.
00:10:59.660 You can see Unifor on there, of course.
00:11:02.280 They were obviously campaigning against Harper last time,
00:11:04.880 along with a ton of other public sector unions
00:11:07.360 and environmental groups.
00:11:08.780 Millions of dollars in dark money.
00:11:11.040 There's even some American groups in there.
00:11:13.140 You could also see another group on that list
00:11:15.720 of anti-Harper super PACs called the Canadian Media Guild.
00:11:20.420 That's the other big media union in Canada
00:11:22.860 that I alluded to earlier.
00:11:24.440 It mainly represents the CBC
00:11:26.660 and the Canadian Press Newswire service
00:11:30.200 and some fringe sites like Vice News.
00:11:32.660 So I shouldn't just blame Unifor.
00:11:35.360 The other big media union,
00:11:37.660 the Canadian Media Guild,
00:11:39.440 in some ways is even worse.
00:11:41.780 They're just not quite as stupid
00:11:44.160 about bragging about their partisanship
00:11:46.800 as mouthy Jerry Diaz is,
00:11:49.480 but I'm glad he's so mouthy now, I know.
00:11:52.620 But here's my point.
00:11:53.580 If you have a reporter from the CBC,
00:11:56.460 from Canadian Press, from CTV, from Global,
00:11:59.380 from the Global Mail, from the Toronto Star,
00:12:00.880 or any of a dozen others,
00:12:02.600 and if they are literally paying money
00:12:04.700 from their own pocket
00:12:05.900 to fight against the Conservatives in the election,
00:12:08.460 again, this isn't like some big media tycoon
00:12:10.540 editorially endorsing some candidate.
00:12:14.420 This is the ordinary working journalists themselves
00:12:17.320 spending their own personal money,
00:12:19.980 their union dues this way.
00:12:22.780 I'm sorry, how can you trust them
00:12:24.020 to report it straight on TV or in the papers?
00:12:27.480 It would be like someone who, I don't know,
00:12:29.300 worked for General Motors
00:12:31.120 or had a lot of stock in General Motors stock
00:12:34.020 doing an independent review
00:12:35.700 of the best cars and trucks out there.
00:12:37.160 If they hate Ford and love GM,
00:12:40.240 you can't really trust their reportage, can you?
00:12:42.540 And at the very least,
00:12:43.440 they should disclose their conflict of interest,
00:12:46.120 don't you think?
00:12:48.000 Don't you think journalists
00:12:49.060 who dip into their own wallet
00:12:50.220 to pay for a hate Harper campaign 1.00
00:12:52.900 or a hate Andrew Scheer campaign
00:12:54.840 or a hate Conservatives campaign,
00:12:57.180 don't you think they should have a little asterisk
00:12:59.040 with a footnote,
00:13:01.280 a little disclosure on TV
00:13:03.220 that they're actually part
00:13:05.840 of a political campaign themselves?
00:13:07.420 They're not neutral at all?
00:13:09.540 I think they should.
00:13:10.960 But then again,
00:13:11.460 I'm not part of a journalist union
00:13:12.860 and I'm not part of a political party.
00:13:16.280 You always suspected
00:13:17.520 you couldn't trust the mainstream media.
00:13:21.260 Now you have proof.
00:13:23.840 Stay with us for more.
00:13:24.900 Delivering Brexit involves difficult choices
00:13:43.820 for all of us.
00:13:44.940 We do not agree on all of those choices,
00:13:47.220 but I respect their views
00:13:48.580 and I would like to thank them sincerely
00:13:50.580 for all that they have done.
00:13:53.060 Mr Speaker,
00:13:53.900 yesterday we agreed
00:13:54.980 the provisional terms
00:13:56.020 of our exit from the European Union
00:13:57.680 set out in the draft withdrawal agreement.
00:14:00.540 We also agreed
00:14:01.380 the broad terms
00:14:02.200 of our future relationship
00:14:03.380 in an outline political declaration.
00:14:06.560 President Juncker
00:14:07.260 has now written
00:14:07.980 to the President of the European Council
00:14:09.740 to recommend
00:14:10.780 that decisive progress
00:14:12.000 has been made
00:14:12.800 in the negotiations
00:14:13.660 and a special European Council
00:14:15.800 will be called
00:14:16.480 for Sunday the 25th of November.
00:14:19.440 This puts us close
00:14:20.620 to a Brexit deal.
00:14:22.340 Well,
00:14:22.820 that is from the United Kingdom
00:14:24.240 which is going through
00:14:25.240 a political meltdown
00:14:26.840 over Brexit.
00:14:29.320 Brexit was a referendum.
00:14:31.140 In fact,
00:14:31.540 it was sort of a premonition
00:14:32.940 of the earthquake
00:14:34.120 that would put Donald Trump
00:14:35.280 into office.
00:14:35.840 It was designed
00:14:36.740 to get the United Kingdom
00:14:38.280 out of the European Union.
00:14:39.820 Well,
00:14:39.880 it's been more than two years
00:14:40.940 and they're still in
00:14:42.840 and the Tory party
00:14:44.360 is coming apart over it.
00:14:45.560 Joining us now via Skype
00:14:46.600 to help us understand
00:14:47.780 what's going on
00:14:48.620 is our reporter
00:14:49.840 in London,
00:14:50.580 Jack Buckby.
00:14:52.040 Jack,
00:14:52.560 what the heck
00:14:53.340 is going on
00:14:54.240 in the United Kingdom?
00:14:56.440 What's the latest
00:14:57.340 with Brexit?
00:14:58.340 What's going on
00:14:59.180 with Theresa May?
00:15:00.640 Is she going to be
00:15:01.540 Prime Minister
00:15:01.980 much longer?
00:15:02.660 Is there going to be
00:15:03.300 an election?
00:15:03.820 Just help us out here a bit.
00:15:05.880 Yeah,
00:15:06.380 I'll do my best
00:15:07.360 to summarize this
00:15:08.180 because it's pretty complicated.
00:15:09.620 Basically,
00:15:09.940 we're meant to be leaving
00:15:10.840 the European Union
00:15:11.720 in March of next year.
00:15:13.160 That requires a summit
00:15:14.960 in November
00:15:15.800 where the UK
00:15:17.960 and the EU
00:15:18.580 presents the withdrawal
00:15:19.680 agreement and says
00:15:20.520 this is what's happening.
00:15:22.100 Now,
00:15:22.300 Theresa May has come forward
00:15:23.640 with a draft agreement
00:15:24.680 that essentially
00:15:25.860 keeps us within
00:15:27.660 the customs union.
00:15:28.900 So,
00:15:29.400 that means we get
00:15:30.300 free trade within the EU
00:15:31.540 but we can't set
00:15:32.360 our own free trade deals
00:15:33.540 because we're bound
00:15:34.240 by EU regulation.
00:15:35.900 The reason we're staying in
00:15:37.200 is because of Ireland.
00:15:38.600 So,
00:15:38.800 we have this issue.
00:15:39.720 Northern Ireland
00:15:40.200 is a part of the UK.
00:15:41.760 The question is
00:15:42.520 where will the border go?
00:15:43.620 Because there has to be
00:15:44.180 a border at the edge
00:15:45.000 of the European Union
00:15:45.980 but we can't put
00:15:46.880 a border in Ireland
00:15:47.640 because that goes
00:15:48.280 against our agreements
00:15:49.240 with both islands.
00:15:51.500 So,
00:15:52.000 the issue is
00:15:52.460 do we put a border
00:15:53.120 down the Irish Sea
00:15:54.040 between Northern Ireland
00:15:54.980 and England?
00:15:55.960 So,
00:15:56.160 that's been causing
00:15:56.720 huge chaos
00:15:57.340 and what Theresa May has said,
00:15:58.600 well,
00:15:59.060 we can't agree
00:15:59.760 a free trade deal now.
00:16:01.260 What we'll do
00:16:01.940 is we'll have a backstop
00:16:03.120 which is essentially
00:16:03.980 a temporary solution
00:16:05.320 whereby the UK
00:16:06.220 including Northern Ireland
00:16:07.320 stays within this customs union
00:16:09.520 until we reach a deal.
00:16:11.500 So,
00:16:11.740 we'll leave
00:16:12.180 in March
00:16:12.860 technically
00:16:13.480 with no deal yet.
00:16:15.560 It's a withdrawal agreement
00:16:16.740 but no actual plans
00:16:18.160 for the future
00:16:19.360 and people aren't happy
00:16:21.240 about that
00:16:21.800 which is why people
00:16:22.620 have been submitting
00:16:23.340 something called
00:16:24.380 a no confidence letter
00:16:25.640 to the 1922 committee.
00:16:27.960 Once 48 of those
00:16:29.060 are submitted
00:16:29.600 there's going to be
00:16:30.280 a no confidence vote
00:16:31.400 or a confidence vote
00:16:32.860 in the Prime Minister
00:16:33.720 and 48 have now
00:16:35.460 been submitted
00:16:36.020 thanks to
00:16:37.140 Jacob Rees-Mogg's push
00:16:38.500 and by Tuesday
00:16:39.840 we could have a vote
00:16:40.720 of confidence
00:16:41.180 in the House of Commons
00:16:42.340 to decide whether
00:16:43.420 Theresa May stays on
00:16:44.400 as Prime Minister
00:16:44.940 or not.
00:16:46.380 Well,
00:16:46.880 it certainly looks bad.
00:16:48.600 I mean,
00:16:48.780 when you have
00:16:49.400 Cabinet ministers
00:16:50.440 resigning
00:16:51.280 it's one thing
00:16:51.880 for a backbencher
00:16:53.560 who really didn't have
00:16:54.740 anything to give up
00:16:56.240 but if you're in Cabinet
00:16:57.240 and you're saying
00:16:57.780 I can't
00:16:58.400 the perks of Cabinet
00:16:59.640 the prestige
00:17:00.240 the power
00:17:00.960 the opportunity
00:17:02.120 for advancement
00:17:03.000 is all these
00:17:05.120 wonderful things
00:17:05.840 I am voluntarily
00:17:06.760 giving them up
00:17:07.540 on a point of principle
00:17:08.260 when you're in Cabinet
00:17:09.500 and you're quitting
00:17:10.200 that's a pretty
00:17:11.460 serious thing.
00:17:13.360 Seven people
00:17:14.160 have resigned
00:17:14.700 so far
00:17:15.400 including Cabinet
00:17:16.360 ministers
00:17:17.000 others are
00:17:18.140 parliamentary
00:17:18.580 private secretaries
00:17:19.580 who are still
00:17:19.900 quite important
00:17:20.500 so there's been
00:17:21.020 seven resignations
00:17:22.060 including
00:17:22.560 the Brexit secretary
00:17:24.360 this is the second
00:17:25.580 Brexit secretary
00:17:26.440 that's resigned
00:17:27.120 and they've just
00:17:27.900 replaced him
00:17:28.480 with a guy
00:17:28.840 called Steve Barclay
00:17:29.940 who's known
00:17:30.700 as being ultra loyal
00:17:32.260 he's formerly
00:17:33.400 of Barclay's Bank
00:17:34.380 and he has never
00:17:35.220 ever rebelled
00:17:35.920 against the government
00:17:37.040 Theresa May
00:17:37.880 is trying to
00:17:38.620 push through
00:17:39.040 with this deal
00:17:39.960 which isn't Brexit
00:17:41.180 and I think
00:17:42.280 something like
00:17:42.800 13%
00:17:43.660 according to polls
00:17:44.540 of the population
00:17:45.180 actually support
00:17:46.100 1-3
00:17:47.340 not 3-0
00:17:48.120 and this new
00:17:49.920 Brexit secretary
00:17:50.560 is not going to
00:17:51.080 vote anything down
00:17:52.020 she's even got
00:17:52.980 some Brexiteers
00:17:53.920 like Liam Fox
00:17:54.760 to come forward
00:17:55.400 and say that
00:17:55.920 a deal
00:17:56.280 is better than
00:17:57.280 no deal
00:17:57.800 which is a huge
00:17:58.880 U-turn
00:17:59.360 from the narrative
00:18:00.540 a few months ago
00:18:01.480 when everybody
00:18:02.420 in government
00:18:03.380 was saying that
00:18:04.220 no deal
00:18:05.020 is better than
00:18:05.600 a bad deal
00:18:06.200 well I mean
00:18:07.720 listen I have not
00:18:09.280 got into the
00:18:09.860 minutiae of it
00:18:11.280 but what if
00:18:14.400 the deal just
00:18:15.800 expired
00:18:16.460 I mean it reminds
00:18:18.540 me of Canada
00:18:19.240 where we just
00:18:19.940 went through
00:18:20.520 our renegotiation
00:18:21.940 with Donald Trump
00:18:22.720 and with the Mexicans 0.97
00:18:23.900 of NAFTA
00:18:25.200 and Trump
00:18:26.260 served notice
00:18:28.100 that he was
00:18:28.680 pulling out of NAFTA
00:18:29.840 and he basically
00:18:30.820 said well
00:18:31.500 you could get
00:18:32.720 a deal or no deal
00:18:33.600 I'm fine either way
00:18:34.480 a deal is probably
00:18:35.300 in your interest
00:18:35.880 otherwise we'll just
00:18:36.580 slap tariffs on you
00:18:37.580 and at literally
00:18:39.200 the night before
00:18:39.980 the deadline
00:18:40.560 Trudeau signed a deal
00:18:41.600 but if he didn't
00:18:42.720 life would have
00:18:43.720 gone on
00:18:44.140 it just would have
00:18:44.740 been without that
00:18:45.660 trade deal
00:18:47.260 and so as a Canadian
00:18:48.820 who just went through
00:18:49.520 that experience
00:18:50.080 I'm thinking
00:18:50.560 okay so if you're
00:18:52.180 saying the UK
00:18:52.940 is getting out
00:18:53.640 in the spring
00:18:54.140 no matter what
00:18:55.120 if they can't
00:18:56.960 find some
00:18:57.780 interim
00:18:59.160 or replacement deal
00:19:00.280 how is that
00:19:01.740 really that bad
00:19:02.860 if
00:19:03.640 you know
00:19:04.960 suddenly the EU
00:19:06.100 deal
00:19:07.060 evaporates
00:19:08.560 and the UK
00:19:09.100 is still there
00:19:09.740 and Europe
00:19:10.080 is still there
00:19:10.640 and people will
00:19:11.640 still get up
00:19:12.360 in the morning
00:19:12.740 and drive to work
00:19:13.540 and you know
00:19:14.460 they'll have to
00:19:15.340 figure things out
00:19:16.020 but really
00:19:16.520 how is that
00:19:17.740 a bad thing
00:19:18.660 it's not
00:19:20.300 we'd leave
00:19:21.120 and we'd trade
00:19:21.960 on WTO
00:19:22.920 World Trade
00:19:23.440 Organization
00:19:23.940 rules
00:19:24.600 the question
00:19:25.160 then remains
00:19:26.280 what do we do
00:19:27.080 about the border
00:19:27.600 in Ireland
00:19:28.100 because there needs
00:19:28.740 to be a border
00:19:29.320 on the edge
00:19:29.760 of the EU
00:19:30.280 with the UK
00:19:31.440 which is Northern Ireland
00:19:32.500 so that question
00:19:33.180 will remain
00:19:33.700 but Jacob Rees-Mogg's
00:19:34.940 European Research Group
00:19:36.240 has put forward
00:19:37.420 multiple suggestions
00:19:38.380 of using technology
00:19:39.340 at the border
00:19:39.760 that can solve that
00:19:40.680 the real question
00:19:42.000 is what would happen
00:19:42.980 with regards
00:19:43.980 to customs arrangements
00:19:45.760 coming from Europe
00:19:47.040 to the UK
00:19:47.940 something like
00:19:49.960 six seconds
00:19:50.660 is all it takes
00:19:51.400 for things to pass
00:19:52.280 through customs
00:19:52.960 at the border
00:19:54.260 it really wouldn't
00:19:56.000 cause that much
00:19:56.540 of a problem
00:19:56.900 people say
00:19:57.380 it would cause
00:19:57.920 queues for miles
00:19:59.200 in the south
00:20:00.240 of England
00:20:00.580 which we just
00:20:01.460 know wouldn't
00:20:01.880 happen
00:20:02.260 and Project Fear
00:20:03.660 which is what
00:20:04.440 we call
00:20:04.840 the people
00:20:05.460 stirring up
00:20:06.220 all these
00:20:06.500 terrible ideas
00:20:07.220 about what
00:20:07.580 would happen
00:20:07.940 if we left
00:20:08.420 without a deal
00:20:09.500 have suggested
00:20:10.440 all sorts
00:20:10.920 of crazy stuff
00:20:11.540 they suggested
00:20:12.120 that planes
00:20:12.700 would be
00:20:13.240 stopped from
00:20:14.220 flying into
00:20:14.780 Europe
00:20:15.120 but we know
00:20:15.740 from people
00:20:16.680 within Europe
00:20:17.480 mayors of
00:20:18.240 the regions
00:20:20.000 in question
00:20:21.020 have said
00:20:21.640 no that's
00:20:22.060 just not
00:20:22.360 going to happen
00:20:23.020 there's all
00:20:23.600 these rumours
00:20:24.060 flying around
00:20:24.660 but there is
00:20:25.100 simply no way
00:20:26.360 that the EU
00:20:27.220 would cut
00:20:27.760 its nose
00:20:28.600 despite its
00:20:29.340 face
00:20:29.720 in this
00:20:30.740 instance
00:20:31.120 because they
00:20:31.480 need us
00:20:32.020 yeah
00:20:32.360 well all
00:20:33.220 these terrible
00:20:33.820 things that
00:20:34.260 were supposed
00:20:34.700 to have
00:20:35.080 happened
00:20:35.460 immediately
00:20:35.960 after the
00:20:36.520 Brexit vote
00:20:37.040 almost none
00:20:38.040 of them
00:20:38.220 have happened
00:20:38.800 all these
00:20:39.240 big banks
00:20:39.800 were saying
00:20:40.160 we're going
00:20:40.520 to move
00:20:40.860 to Frankfurt
00:20:41.400 listen I've
00:20:42.160 been to London
00:20:42.660 and I've
00:20:43.260 been to
00:20:43.500 Frankfurt
00:20:43.820 and I've
00:20:44.360 got nothing
00:20:44.640 against
00:20:44.920 Frankfurt
00:20:45.260 but don't
00:20:46.120 tell me
00:20:46.520 million dollar
00:20:47.520 a year
00:20:48.020 bankers
00:20:48.800 are going
00:20:49.340 to leave
00:20:49.680 the world's
00:20:50.280 most amazing
00:20:50.900 one of the
00:20:51.360 world's most
00:20:51.760 amazing cities
00:20:52.480 London
00:20:53.340 to go to
00:20:54.920 Frankfurt
00:20:55.240 that just
00:20:55.960 ain't happening
00:20:56.660 no
00:20:57.980 no way at all
00:20:59.140 they told us
00:20:59.940 that there'd be
00:21:00.300 an instant
00:21:00.680 recession
00:21:01.120 the minute
00:21:01.480 we even
00:21:01.880 voted
00:21:02.320 and by the
00:21:03.280 way one
00:21:03.620 thing that's
00:21:03.980 really bugged
00:21:04.480 me about this
00:21:05.020 people are now
00:21:05.540 talking about
00:21:06.200 a second
00:21:06.900 referendum
00:21:07.380 because people
00:21:08.020 who voted
00:21:08.460 Brexit
00:21:08.860 feel so terrible
00:21:09.800 about what
00:21:10.260 they've done
00:21:10.720 what Brexit's
00:21:11.600 done to this
00:21:12.040 country
00:21:12.380 and I just
00:21:12.960 need to remind
00:21:13.500 those people
00:21:13.960 Brexit hasn't 0.96
00:21:14.840 happened yet
00:21:15.500 it's been two
00:21:16.240 years we still
00:21:17.160 haven't left
00:21:18.080 all this turmoil
00:21:19.240 that we're
00:21:19.600 experiencing now
00:21:20.500 is not because
00:21:21.300 of Brexit
00:21:21.840 it's because of
00:21:22.560 the absolutely
00:21:23.220 terrible job
00:21:24.680 that Theresa May
00:21:25.640 and the government
00:21:26.120 have done so far
00:21:27.160 if we have
00:21:28.220 a real Brexit 0.70
00:21:29.100 we'll be fine
00:21:29.980 yeah I mean
00:21:31.160 you really do
00:21:32.020 need someone
00:21:32.940 to borrow a phrase
00:21:34.160 who knows the art
00:21:34.920 of the deal
00:21:35.520 a tough negotiator
00:21:37.560 who has actually
00:21:39.300 done that
00:21:39.960 in his or her
00:21:40.840 life
00:21:41.060 I don't
00:21:41.440 I get the
00:21:42.260 feeling that's
00:21:42.700 not Theresa May
00:21:43.500 okay I've just
00:21:44.680 two last questions
00:21:45.860 to you and I
00:21:46.400 know that I'm
00:21:46.980 being overly
00:21:47.580 simplistic
00:21:48.180 and I just
00:21:49.760 I just don't
00:21:50.400 know the details
00:21:51.220 and I know
00:21:51.600 you've been
00:21:51.880 following them
00:21:52.280 closely
00:21:52.560 I guess I have
00:21:53.380 two questions
00:21:53.900 one is
00:21:54.440 barring some
00:21:56.900 second do-over
00:21:59.280 referendum
00:21:59.740 which I really
00:22:00.360 sense won't
00:22:01.920 happen
00:22:02.280 is the exit
00:22:04.400 is the Brexit 0.80
00:22:05.140 really going to
00:22:06.600 happen in the
00:22:07.480 spring
00:22:07.700 is it like
00:22:08.220 is that
00:22:10.040 button already
00:22:10.880 pushed
00:22:11.340 and the
00:22:12.240 timer
00:22:12.920 counting down
00:22:13.940 is that
00:22:14.420 already afoot
00:22:15.540 yeah that's
00:22:16.980 already signed
00:22:17.500 into law
00:22:17.980 we have to
00:22:18.520 leave in
00:22:18.840 March
00:22:19.200 we can't
00:22:20.640 extend
00:22:20.920 article 50
00:22:21.760 which is
00:22:22.500 the process
00:22:23.860 of withdrawing
00:22:24.600 it is in
00:22:25.460 law that we
00:22:26.020 leave in
00:22:26.700 March
00:22:27.100 now the
00:22:27.740 question is
00:22:28.340 how we
00:22:28.920 do it
00:22:29.300 but what's
00:22:30.040 really
00:22:30.240 interesting
00:22:30.720 is if
00:22:31.340 this deal
00:22:32.200 that Theresa
00:22:32.620 May is
00:22:32.900 presenting
00:22:33.280 by the way
00:22:33.680 she has
00:22:34.140 to pass
00:22:34.520 it through
00:22:34.860 parliament
00:22:35.340 and right
00:22:36.280 now the
00:22:36.660 maths don't
00:22:37.360 add up
00:22:38.020 there's 80
00:22:38.820 to 100
00:22:39.380 MPs in
00:22:40.860 Jacob Rees-Mogg's
00:22:41.860 group that
00:22:42.480 leaves 200
00:22:43.180 other MPs in
00:22:44.120 the Tories
00:22:44.580 most Tories
00:22:45.500 don't support
00:22:46.940 her the
00:22:47.660 the vitriol
00:22:48.480 against her
00:22:49.080 in prime
00:22:49.420 minister's
00:22:49.760 questions time
00:22:50.460 in the
00:22:51.280 house of
00:22:51.600 commons is
00:22:52.140 remarkable
00:22:53.320 coming from
00:22:53.900 her own
00:22:54.220 party
00:22:54.580 she's now
00:22:55.520 looking for
00:22:56.100 votes from
00:22:56.740 Labour and
00:22:57.320 the Lib Dems
00:22:57.920 to pass
00:22:58.280 this through
00:22:58.680 if it
00:22:59.200 doesn't pass
00:22:59.860 I don't
00:23:00.600 know what
00:23:00.880 will happen
00:23:01.320 because I
00:23:02.180 can't see
00:23:02.560 parliament
00:23:02.920 allowing us
00:23:03.500 to go through
00:23:03.920 no deal
00:23:04.360 as well
00:23:04.660 so really
00:23:05.160 right now
00:23:06.040 nobody can
00:23:07.420 predict what
00:23:07.960 on earth
00:23:08.200 is going to
00:23:08.540 happen
00:23:08.840 it's possible
00:23:09.940 maybe that
00:23:10.580 she'll just 0.98
00:23:10.960 scrape through
00:23:11.620 and just
00:23:12.160 about get
00:23:12.600 the vote
00:23:12.920 she needs
00:23:13.500 yeah
00:23:13.800 I want to
00:23:14.380 show you
00:23:14.780 you mentioned
00:23:15.220 Jacob Rees-Mogg
00:23:15.960 a couple
00:23:16.440 of times
00:23:16.860 here's a
00:23:18.020 great little
00:23:18.500 exchange
00:23:19.020 he had
00:23:19.800 and I'm
00:23:20.200 jealous as
00:23:20.700 a Canadian
00:23:21.060 because we
00:23:21.380 never have
00:23:21.900 this kind
00:23:22.340 of free
00:23:24.700 debate and
00:23:25.480 speech in
00:23:26.000 our parliament
00:23:26.600 everyone is
00:23:27.180 whipped to
00:23:27.540 the end
00:23:27.720 here's
00:23:27.960 Jacob Rees-Mogg
00:23:28.740 going a couple
00:23:30.160 rounds with
00:23:31.060 his own
00:23:31.780 government
00:23:32.600 take a look
00:23:33.120 my right
00:23:34.040 honorable
00:23:34.340 friend
00:23:34.840 and she is
00:23:35.780 unquestionably
00:23:36.540 honorable
00:23:37.040 said that we
00:23:38.700 would leave
00:23:39.200 the customs
00:23:39.820 union
00:23:40.260 annex 2
00:23:42.140 says otherwise
00:23:43.440 my right
00:23:44.720 honorable friend
00:23:45.380 said that she
00:23:45.980 would maintain
00:23:46.680 the integrity
00:23:47.340 of the united
00:23:47.900 kingdom
00:23:48.380 a whole
00:23:49.540 protocol
00:23:50.000 says otherwise
00:23:51.380 my right
00:23:52.780 honorable
00:23:52.980 friend
00:23:53.500 said that we
00:23:54.740 would be out
00:23:55.280 of the
00:23:55.540 jurisdiction
00:23:55.980 of the
00:23:56.460 European
00:23:56.740 Court of
00:23:57.120 Justice
00:23:57.580 article 174
00:23:59.820 says otherwise
00:24:01.300 as what my
00:24:02.980 right honorable
00:24:03.400 friend says
00:24:04.260 and what my
00:24:05.180 right honorable
00:24:05.540 friend does
00:24:06.240 no longer
00:24:06.700 match
00:24:07.180 should I
00:24:08.240 not write
00:24:08.840 to my
00:24:09.640 right honorable
00:24:10.040 friend the
00:24:10.560 member for
00:24:11.100 Ultringham
00:24:11.660 and Sail
00:24:12.420 West
00:24:12.980 so he's a
00:24:16.220 conservative
00:24:17.260 and he's
00:24:17.880 challenging the
00:24:18.560 conservatives
00:24:18.920 I got a
00:24:19.300 question for you
00:24:19.840 what is Boris
00:24:21.340 Johnson figure 0.98
00:24:22.800 in all this
00:24:23.240 because he's
00:24:23.700 one of the
00:24:24.060 ones who
00:24:24.880 quit his
00:24:25.500 very high
00:24:26.160 I think he
00:24:26.540 was the
00:24:26.900 foreign secretary
00:24:27.920 that's about as
00:24:28.580 close to the
00:24:29.160 top as you get
00:24:29.700 he quit that
00:24:30.700 over Brexit
00:24:31.240 is he
00:24:31.900 what's he
00:24:33.260 doing and
00:24:34.040 and is it
00:24:35.520 almost a
00:24:36.280 certainty that
00:24:36.900 there will be
00:24:37.300 a leadership
00:24:37.820 race in the
00:24:39.000 conservative party
00:24:39.740 now and that
00:24:40.480 Theresa May's
00:24:41.280 days are
00:24:42.100 numbered
00:24:42.480 well David
00:24:44.080 Lidington
00:24:44.680 who's Theresa
00:24:45.540 May's de facto 1.00
00:24:46.280 deputy has said
00:24:47.320 he thinks that
00:24:47.960 she'll win a 0.74
00:24:48.540 confidence vote
00:24:49.200 handsomely
00:24:49.820 and I
00:24:50.500 agree with
00:24:51.040 him because
00:24:52.000 first off a
00:24:53.440 Brexiteer will 0.96
00:24:54.140 not become
00:24:54.600 prime minister
00:24:55.140 or leader of
00:24:55.940 the Tories
00:24:56.440 and that's
00:24:57.100 just a quirk
00:24:57.580 of the way
00:24:57.920 the system
00:24:58.380 works so
00:24:58.960 they need
00:25:00.240 in order to
00:25:00.920 create a
00:25:01.600 ballot of
00:25:02.180 two candidates
00:25:02.940 to go to
00:25:03.940 the members
00:25:04.320 of the
00:25:04.600 Tory party
00:25:05.100 to elect
00:25:05.540 a new
00:25:05.780 leader
00:25:06.040 the MPs
00:25:07.220 have to
00:25:07.780 decide who
00:25:08.560 those two
00:25:09.100 people are
00:25:09.760 given there's
00:25:10.660 only 80
00:25:11.280 Brexiteers in 1.00
00:25:12.240 the Tories
00:25:12.700 out of
00:25:13.100 something like
00:25:13.740 300 MPs
00:25:15.400 there's no way
00:25:16.220 in hell that a 0.83
00:25:16.700 Brexiteer will 0.96
00:25:17.260 end up on that
00:25:17.800 ballot paper
00:25:18.400 so there's no
00:25:19.600 way that Boris
00:25:20.160 Johnson can
00:25:21.020 become leader
00:25:22.080 I think she'll
00:25:23.360 win that vote
00:25:23.920 as well because
00:25:24.620 if you're a
00:25:25.800 Remainer you've
00:25:26.440 got to be mad
00:25:27.040 to think
00:25:27.440 A you've got to
00:25:28.120 be mad to
00:25:28.480 want the job
00:25:29.080 and B you've
00:25:29.680 got to be mad
00:25:30.180 to think that
00:25:30.620 you can do a
00:25:31.080 better job at
00:25:31.700 uniting the
00:25:32.280 country than
00:25:32.700 Theresa May
00:25:33.260 I think she'll
00:25:34.280 stay in the
00:25:35.120 job just
00:25:35.900 because people
00:25:36.440 are terrified
00:25:36.960 about what
00:25:37.460 will happen
00:25:37.820 if we throw
00:25:38.280 even more
00:25:38.800 chaos into
00:25:39.340 the mix
00:25:39.780 isn't that
00:25:40.400 interesting
00:25:40.780 I guess my
00:25:41.280 next question
00:25:41.840 is will
00:25:43.760 there be a
00:25:44.340 chance that
00:25:44.900 there will
00:25:45.540 be an election
00:25:47.060 soon on this
00:25:48.500 matter because
00:25:49.460 the only thing
00:25:50.020 that terrifies me
00:25:50.860 more than
00:25:51.180 Theresa May is
00:25:52.280 Jeremy Corbyn
00:25:52.940 and the Labour
00:25:53.360 Party is there
00:25:54.040 a chance that
00:25:54.540 the UK could
00:25:55.040 be heading to
00:25:55.440 the polls soon
00:25:56.080 maybe if she 0.72
00:25:58.400 loses the vote
00:25:59.200 of no confidence
00:25:59.880 maybe because
00:26:00.760 then we've got
00:26:01.760 the question of
00:26:02.360 who takes over
00:26:03.040 and if somebody
00:26:03.520 else takes over
00:26:04.380 I mean it's
00:26:06.400 hard to claim a
00:26:07.120 mandate at this
00:26:07.780 point because
00:26:08.240 the country is so
00:26:09.240 divided the polls
00:26:10.100 have shifted so
00:26:10.920 much they might
00:26:11.660 just have to take
00:26:12.360 it to a general
00:26:12.900 election and if
00:26:14.240 they do that I
00:26:15.000 suspect part of
00:26:15.800 that general
00:26:16.220 election will be
00:26:17.000 to include a
00:26:17.800 policy promise
00:26:19.600 a manifesto
00:26:20.280 promise of
00:26:20.740 delivering the
00:26:21.300 deal we already
00:26:21.840 have or going
00:26:23.920 for a second
00:26:24.340 referendum which I
00:26:25.340 think is actually
00:26:26.120 possible unfortunately
00:26:27.480 I guess my only
00:26:29.800 last question is
00:26:30.620 I've
00:26:31.300 met the new
00:26:32.960 leader of the
00:26:33.680 UKIP party
00:26:34.440 Gerard Batten
00:26:35.120 I like the guy
00:26:35.800 as a fellow but
00:26:36.360 he's low in the
00:26:37.520 polls and he seems
00:26:38.740 to me to be not
00:26:39.620 well known
00:26:40.780 Nigel Farage is
00:26:42.780 so personally
00:26:43.800 associated with
00:26:44.960 the UKIP and he
00:26:45.760 was the great
00:26:46.260 champion of the
00:26:47.760 independence the
00:26:48.660 Brexit referendum
00:26:49.780 what are his
00:26:51.220 plans he looks
00:26:52.600 like he's getting
00:26:53.140 friendly with
00:26:53.740 Boris Johnson
00:26:54.400 is he going to
00:26:55.440 dive back into
00:26:56.380 politics on the
00:26:57.760 national side as
00:26:58.560 opposed to the
00:26:59.080 European parliament
00:26:59.820 side what's Nigel up
00:27:01.280 too good
00:27:02.940 question
00:27:03.440 there's the
00:27:04.180 well UKIP has
00:27:05.340 to have a
00:27:06.040 leadership election
00:27:07.040 in March because
00:27:07.860 Gerard Batten
00:27:08.560 wasn't elected he
00:27:09.400 was appointed
00:27:09.920 because the party
00:27:10.560 was in crisis
00:27:11.260 and he's stepping
00:27:12.820 down in March
00:27:13.640 so then the
00:27:14.680 question is who's
00:27:15.240 the next leader
00:27:15.880 and Farage has
00:27:17.600 said he would
00:27:18.280 consider coming
00:27:19.640 back although
00:27:20.360 with the shift
00:27:21.280 that UKIP's had
00:27:22.000 towards a
00:27:22.740 Islamophobic sort
00:27:24.160 of policy I
00:27:25.480 suspect maybe
00:27:26.340 Farage doesn't
00:27:27.000 want to come
00:27:27.500 back I don't
00:27:29.080 know from the
00:27:29.660 sidelines it's
00:27:30.300 really hard to
00:27:30.920 tell if he
00:27:31.360 wants to come
00:27:31.800 back into
00:27:32.140 politics he'd
00:27:32.960 either have to
00:27:33.460 join the Tories
00:27:34.120 which I think
00:27:35.140 he'd struggle
00:27:35.540 getting into
00:27:36.260 because many
00:27:37.860 UKIP MEPs
00:27:38.660 who've tried to
00:27:39.120 join the Tories
00:27:39.680 recently have
00:27:40.160 been barred
00:27:41.000 he'd have to
00:27:42.100 come back as
00:27:42.520 UKIP leader
00:27:43.040 and I think
00:27:43.680 that's a big
00:27:44.240 step that he
00:27:44.980 doesn't seem
00:27:45.600 willing to take
00:27:46.200 at this point
00:27:46.740 what's very
00:27:48.300 interesting and I
00:27:49.220 can't say I
00:27:49.940 have a deep
00:27:51.360 command of the
00:27:51.940 subject I just
00:27:52.880 know that the
00:27:55.320 moves they're
00:27:56.100 pulling to stop
00:27:57.480 Brexit so
00:27:58.880 closely track the
00:28:00.680 attempts to
00:28:01.300 delegitimize Donald
00:28:03.300 Trump's election
00:28:04.240 they're really the
00:28:05.360 same tactics the
00:28:06.280 same people the
00:28:07.060 same arguments
00:28:07.740 oh you deplorables
00:28:09.200 didn't know what
00:28:09.860 you're doing you're
00:28:10.940 a disaster we're
00:28:11.780 going to lose all
00:28:12.340 our human rights
00:28:13.060 and so I'm
00:28:14.120 naturally sympathetic
00:28:15.200 to the Brexit
00:28:16.380 every time I
00:28:17.220 watch those
00:28:17.640 European Union
00:28:18.400 fools I think
00:28:19.120 Britain get out 0.99
00:28:19.880 I appreciate the
00:28:21.040 update Jack and
00:28:21.980 hopefully things
00:28:22.820 will be clearer in
00:28:23.440 the weeks ahead
00:28:23.980 although I get
00:28:24.640 the feeling they
00:28:25.060 won't be
00:28:25.400 yeah happy to
00:28:27.420 decode anything
00:28:28.120 else you need
00:28:28.800 with the
00:28:29.600 negotiations
00:28:30.240 cheers Ezra
00:28:30.960 all right thanks
00:28:31.640 so much Jack
00:28:32.140 that's Jack
00:28:32.780 Buckby our
00:28:33.440 London based
00:28:34.120 reporter and he
00:28:35.400 talks with great
00:28:36.380 expertise on Brexit
00:28:37.420 and I encourage
00:28:38.380 you to watch him
00:28:39.260 not me on the
00:28:40.820 subject because I'm
00:28:41.700 asking rather basic
00:28:42.720 and elementary
00:28:43.280 questions but I
00:28:44.460 know Jack goes
00:28:45.140 deep on the
00:28:45.660 subject from
00:28:46.180 time to time
00:28:46.760 in his videos
00:28:47.980 on our YouTube
00:28:48.540 channel
00:28:48.960 stay with us
00:28:49.960 more ahead on
00:28:50.720 The Rebel
00:28:51.000 hey welcome back
00:29:03.060 on my monologue
00:29:03.560 yesterday about the
00:29:04.280 CBC's pitiful attack
00:29:05.480 on Rex Murphy
00:29:06.100 Barb writes
00:29:07.020 Rex Murphy is an
00:29:08.860 icon of sanity in
00:29:10.060 the fake news
00:29:10.640 press kingdom
00:29:11.300 I love his
00:29:12.160 columns and
00:29:12.640 thoroughly enjoyed
00:29:13.280 his weekly
00:29:13.720 viewpoints on
00:29:14.280 CBC when they
00:29:15.320 were a wee bit
00:29:16.000 less the propaganda
00:29:16.980 arm of the
00:29:17.540 current regime
00:29:18.240 yeah you know
00:29:19.920 they don't have
00:29:20.600 Rex on that
00:29:21.560 often at the
00:29:22.140 CBC anymore
00:29:22.780 he does write
00:29:23.660 for the National
00:29:24.220 Post but the
00:29:24.840 National Post
00:29:25.480 I mean I don't
00:29:26.540 know if it's
00:29:26.900 going to be around
00:29:27.420 long there's
00:29:28.800 Rex Murphy
00:29:29.380 there's Conrad
00:29:30.020 Black there's
00:29:30.620 Terry Corcoran
00:29:31.280 and I think I've
00:29:32.780 just about listed
00:29:33.700 all the conservatives
00:29:34.880 left at the
00:29:35.820 National Post
00:29:36.440 that's actually
00:29:37.360 truly sad to me
00:29:38.520 how they become
00:29:39.440 just another
00:29:40.000 cheap knockoff
00:29:42.380 even to the
00:29:43.260 left of the
00:29:43.840 Globe and Mail
00:29:44.500 too many times
00:29:45.220 it makes me sad
00:29:46.060 I say that as an
00:29:46.960 alumnus of the
00:29:48.000 National Post
00:29:48.520 I was on their
00:29:49.000 editorial board
00:29:49.600 for two years
00:29:50.200 Jamie writes
00:29:52.580 I can't figure out
00:29:54.540 how Rex has
00:29:55.260 lasted as long
00:29:55.980 as he has
00:29:56.460 at the CBC
00:29:57.140 I don't think
00:29:59.720 he's actually
00:30:00.100 lasted very long
00:30:01.000 there by this
00:30:02.680 measure
00:30:03.020 I mean yes
00:30:03.760 he's been there
00:30:04.240 a long time
00:30:04.840 his first
00:30:06.420 appearance there
00:30:07.080 was more than
00:30:07.920 40 years ago
00:30:08.780 but he's not
00:30:10.940 on their weekly
00:30:12.560 he's not on
00:30:13.600 their daily
00:30:14.360 he's there
00:30:15.360 every other
00:30:16.460 month or so
00:30:16.960 Google it
00:30:17.420 I think he was
00:30:19.320 there two
00:30:20.500 months ago
00:30:21.000 like he's not
00:30:22.320 even on on a
00:30:22.900 monthly basis
00:30:23.420 so he's
00:30:24.740 is about as
00:30:25.580 tenuous a
00:30:26.240 connection to
00:30:27.140 the CBC as
00:30:28.140 can be and
00:30:28.700 still call
00:30:29.220 yourself a
00:30:29.700 CBC personality
00:30:30.680 they've got
00:30:31.240 rid of him
00:30:31.920 Susanna writes
00:30:34.040 maybe Rex
00:30:35.460 can join
00:30:36.020 the rebel
00:30:36.560 well of course
00:30:38.480 he would be
00:30:39.020 welcome here
00:30:39.720 to say and
00:30:40.400 write and do
00:30:41.300 anything
00:30:41.680 he's one of
00:30:42.540 the smartest
00:30:42.920 guys I know
00:30:43.560 and the most
00:30:43.920 independent
00:30:44.320 thinking
00:30:44.700 and he loves
00:30:45.280 the oil
00:30:45.620 sands
00:30:45.980 on my
00:30:47.540 interview with
00:30:48.060 Mark Morano
00:30:48.600 Liza writes
00:30:50.160 Mark Morano
00:30:51.300 is right
00:30:51.760 this junk
00:30:52.360 science is
00:30:52.840 what policy
00:30:53.420 is based
00:30:53.880 on
00:30:54.160 and what
00:30:54.640 climate
00:30:54.960 Barbie
00:30:55.300 preaches
00:30:55.760 it is a
00:30:56.420 vehicle for
00:30:56.900 societal
00:30:57.280 control
00:30:57.780 of the
00:30:58.320 masses
00:30:58.640 for the
00:30:59.100 benefit
00:30:59.380 of the
00:30:59.900 elite
00:31:00.260 well that's
00:31:01.700 the thing
00:31:02.020 I didn't
00:31:02.840 have the
00:31:03.200 time but
00:31:03.580 maybe I'll
00:31:03.900 do that
00:31:04.200 now is
00:31:04.740 I'll go
00:31:05.100 and search
00:31:05.680 which
00:31:06.420 federal
00:31:07.080 Canadian
00:31:07.620 liberals
00:31:08.180 tweeted
00:31:09.480 that original
00:31:11.220 false study
00:31:11.900 I bet
00:31:12.180 Catherine
00:31:12.520 McKenna
00:31:12.860 did I
00:31:13.160 haven't
00:31:13.480 checked
00:31:13.780 it yet
00:31:14.080 I'll check
00:31:14.720 it after
00:31:15.080 I tape
00:31:15.920 this broadcast
00:31:16.460 I bet
00:31:17.060 she tweeted
00:31:17.520 the error
00:31:18.940 filled
00:31:19.580 first report
00:31:20.740 and I
00:31:21.660 would bet
00:31:22.040 my life
00:31:22.820 I wouldn't
00:31:23.380 bet my
00:31:23.640 life I'd
00:31:24.020 bet almost
00:31:24.920 anything
00:31:25.360 that she
00:31:26.200 did not
00:31:26.600 tweet a
00:31:26.980 correction to
00:31:27.640 it why
00:31:27.880 would she
00:31:28.340 she's in
00:31:28.980 the propaganda
00:31:29.480 business
00:31:30.100 not the
00:31:30.500 facts
00:31:30.920 business
00:31:31.540 well that's
00:31:32.680 our show
00:31:33.060 for the
00:31:33.440 day
00:31:33.720 hope you
00:31:35.200 enjoyed the
00:31:35.620 week's worth
00:31:36.040 of shows
00:31:36.640 by the way
00:31:37.700 if you're in
00:31:38.140 the Toronto
00:31:38.600 area tomorrow
00:31:39.540 night
00:31:40.000 Saturday night
00:31:41.320 we're hosting
00:31:42.320 a hospitality
00:31:42.940 suite at the
00:31:44.180 Ontario PC
00:31:45.540 Party Convention
00:31:46.520 we're going
00:31:47.400 there as
00:31:47.960 journalists
00:31:48.400 we'll cover
00:31:49.120 the convention
00:31:49.640 unlike Andrew
00:31:51.060 Shear's 0.77
00:31:51.480 federal
00:31:51.860 conservatives
00:31:52.760 Doug Ford
00:31:53.560 hasn't banned
00:31:54.560 us from
00:31:55.180 his conservative
00:31:56.020 convention
00:31:56.520 so we're going
00:31:57.300 there David
00:31:57.700 Benzie's going 0.81
00:31:58.260 to be leading
00:31:58.660 our coverage
00:31:59.080 he's great
00:31:59.580 and then at
00:32:00.540 I think it's
00:32:01.720 9pm
00:32:02.540 just across the
00:32:05.540 street of the
00:32:05.820 hotel we're
00:32:06.140 having a
00:32:06.500 hospitality suite
00:32:07.160 so if you're
00:32:08.460 in the Toronto
00:32:08.800 area and I'll
00:32:10.040 buy you the
00:32:10.320 first drink
00:32:10.700 come on by
00:32:11.720 it's I think
00:32:12.380 it's the
00:32:12.680 Delta
00:32:12.940 right across
00:32:14.140 from the
00:32:14.400 Ontario
00:32:14.660 convention
00:32:15.060 at 9pm
00:32:15.620 see you there
00:32:16.340 if not I'll
00:32:17.640 see you on
00:32:18.120 Monday
00:32:18.340 until then
00:32:18.880 on behalf
00:32:19.260 of all of
00:32:19.620 us here at
00:32:20.000 Rebel World
00:32:20.360 Headquarters
00:32:20.840 to you at
00:32:21.580 home
00:32:21.720 good night
00:32:22.140 and keep
00:32:23.080 fighting for
00:32:23.500 freedom
00:32:23.780 so we'll
00:32:25.340 see you