Rebel News Podcast - May 18, 2021


Canadian pastor jailed while pro-Hamas protesters attacked Jews over weekend


Episode Stats


Length

33 minutes

Words per minute

154.25293

Word count

5,163

Sentence count

391

Harmful content

Misogyny

2

sentences flagged

Hate speech

20

sentences flagged


Summary

Summaries generated with gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ .

In the same weekend, a Canadian pastor was jailed for opening his church while pro-Hamas protesters attacked Jews with impunity in the streets of Toronto and other cities across Canada. Why should others go to jail when you won t give them a choice?

Transcript

Transcript generated with Whisper (turbo).
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today, I take you through some of the news of the weekend.
00:00:04.760 It's a tale of two countries. On the one hand, a Christian church is busted up mid-service in
00:00:10.920 Ontario. A Christian pastor is jailed in Calgary. But at the same time, thousands of pro-Hamas 0.77
00:00:18.000 protesters are on the streets with impunity, even as they throw rocks and bottles at police.
00:00:25.800 Oh, well. Anyways, I'll take you through it. I'm going to show you a lot of footage,
00:00:29.360 which is why I'd like you to consider not just listening to the podcast, but actually becoming
00:00:34.920 a subscriber to what we call Rebel News Plus. It's the video version of this podcast. It's eight
00:00:38.900 bucks a month, which is like half the price of Netflix. You get access to the TV version of my
00:00:44.840 podcast, plus podcasts from Sheila Gunn-Reed, David Menzies, and Andrew Chapados, plus the
00:00:50.040 satisfaction of knowing your eight bucks a month goes to keep us independent. We don't take a dime
00:00:55.260 from Justin Trudeau. All right. If you want to sign up for that, I hope you do. Just go to
00:01:00.800 rebelnews.com and click subscribe. You know, it's eight bucks a month, 80 for the whole year,
00:01:04.140 so you actually get a discount if you're into that. Here's today's show.
00:01:07.820 Tonight, in the same weekend, a Canadian pastor was jailed for opening his church while pro-Hamas 0.84
00:01:28.940 protesters attacked Jews with impunity. It's May 17th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:34.740 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:40.620 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:44.700 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:01:55.380 Did you see this tweet from Justin Trudeau?
00:01:58.880 No. Everyone has the right to assemble peacefully and express themselves freely in Canada.
00:02:05.360 That's actually not true if you're an anti-lockdown protester.
00:02:08.980 But we cannot and will not tolerate anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, or hate of any kind.
00:02:15.820 We strongly condemn the despicable rhetoric and violence we saw on display in some protests as we can.
00:02:22.140 Hmm. What's he talking about?
00:02:26.460 He doesn't say.
00:02:28.000 Something about anti-Semitism and Islamophobia.
00:02:32.060 Well, which was it?
00:02:33.840 Was it both?
00:02:35.220 And what was it?
00:02:36.760 What despicable rhetoric and violence does he mean?
00:02:40.620 Hmm.
00:02:41.080 Oh, well, who knows?
00:02:42.980 Probably nothing.
00:02:43.740 I mean, if it was something, he'd say so, right?
00:02:47.380 Well, yeah, no, I think Justin Trudeau has a rule.
00:02:50.460 He never talks about anti-Semitism without immediately mentioning Islamophobia at the same time.
00:02:56.240 It's as if he's worried he could lose certain supporters if he were to express concern only about Jew hatred.
00:03:03.920 Here's what he was reacting to.
00:03:06.240 The last politician in Canada to mention it.
00:03:13.740 Yeah, so pretty clear what's going on there.
00:03:41.200 There's no Islamophobia there.
00:03:44.200 A Jewish man was being beaten with sticks, flagpoles, actually, from Palestinian flags.
00:03:51.200 He was a Jewish man.
00:03:52.600 So where were the police?
00:03:54.220 Well, here are some.
00:03:55.980 These videos are from outside Toronto City Hall, Nathan Phillips Square, it's called.
00:03:59.680 You might recall police kicked our reporters out of there,
00:04:02.700 said we were trespassing when we were simply reporting the news there last year.
00:04:06.160 And that's how we're treated.
00:04:08.040 But thousands of protesters were there on the weekend.
00:04:11.180 No rules about masks or social distancing.
00:04:14.060 No mass arrests by police for illegal gatherings.
00:04:17.880 I'd call them Palestinian protesters, but of course, few of them are actually Palestinian.
00:04:22.160 I think it's more accurate to call them anti-Israel protesters or maybe even pro-Hamas protesters.
00:04:27.940 They're in support of the Hamas terrorist group that's attacking Israeli civilians with rockets every night.
00:04:34.200 Not all of them, but many of them are.
00:04:38.400 They brought a bit of that pro-Hamas spirit with them to Toronto yesterday,
00:04:43.380 throwing bottles at a small group of pro-Israel counter-protesters.
00:04:48.360 And the police, well, they bravely told the Jews to leave. 1.00
00:04:52.960 Fear and fibuli!
00:04:58.280 Fear andemeĆ¹!
00:05:02.660 Fear andemeĆ¹!
00:05:07.540 Fear andemeĆ¹!
00:05:19.260 Fear andemeĆ¹!
00:05:19.960 Fear andemeĆ¹!
00:05:20.620 Fear andemeĆ¹!
00:05:21.720 So this was appalling to many people, or really to some people, let's be more precise.
00:05:44.680 Here's a Jewish conservative senator named Linda Frum, who's upset by it. 0.99
00:05:49.280 Good for her, but that's not surprising.
00:05:52.120 Here's a liberal Gentile MP who's upset by it.
00:05:55.100 Good for him.
00:05:55.700 That is a bit surprising in today's Liberal Party.
00:05:59.220 The vile display of anti-Semitism and hate speech yesterday in protests in Montreal, Toronto, and other cities across Canada is entirely unacceptable.
00:06:06.660 Well, good for him.
00:06:08.340 And here's what he means about Montreal.
00:06:16.680 Throwing rocks at Jews, just like we're in Gaza.
00:06:19.560 I mean, why not, right?
00:06:20.340 And the most Trudeau will say is, hey, guys, no more anti-Semitism or Islamophobia.
00:06:26.260 Can you show me the Islamophobia there?
00:06:29.320 So that's what went on in part of Canada yesterday.
00:06:32.380 Massive gatherings that turned violent against the Jews.
00:06:36.720 Hey, I thought gatherings were illegal.
00:06:39.200 Yeah, for some people they are.
00:06:40.840 Here's what happened at a church in Calgary.
00:06:44.020 A large group of armed police surrounded and arrested and jailed another Christian pastor.
00:06:49.780 That makes three now.
00:06:50.900 That was Calgary.
00:07:15.620 At least they waited until after the church service to arrest the pastor in front of his children.
00:07:20.400 Nice touch there.
00:07:21.260 You could hear them crying.
00:07:22.580 But what about this from Aylmer, Ontario?
00:07:24.440 And why did they literally walk right into the service halfway through and interrupt it?
00:07:30.440 Ladies and gentlemen, my name is David Miller.
00:07:33.360 Here's the mic.
00:07:35.040 I'm a court enforcement officer, commonly known as a sheriff.
00:07:38.900 I have a valid court order here today requiring the sheriff, that's me, and the assistance of the police to vacate everyone from the building and we will be locking the building.
00:07:53.220 I'd ask for your respectful assistance in this and everyone leave, please, in an orderly fashion.
00:07:59.380 This would be of great assistance to us.
00:08:05.200 Obviously, I know this is an upsetting circumstance that's come to rise.
00:08:11.200 If you would, please, kindly, all leave the building at this time.
00:08:16.360 We would appreciate it.
00:08:17.720 Thank you so much.
00:08:19.120 Why did they do that?
00:08:19.920 Why did a half dozen officers with guns walk into a church in the middle of it?
00:08:25.100 Why didn't they wait until it was over?
00:08:26.960 Why six of them?
00:08:28.340 And why did they bring their guns in?
00:08:30.240 Did they have plans for those guns?
00:08:32.220 This church has been operating for the past year.
00:08:34.360 Why did they need to get in there right in the middle of it?
00:08:36.860 Why didn't they wait until it was over?
00:08:39.600 Section 176 of the Criminal Code of Canada specifically talks about disturbing church services.
00:08:44.840 It's literally a crime.
00:08:46.220 It's in the Criminal Code.
00:08:47.660 It's a crime to interrupt a church service with a civil lawsuit or anything like that.
00:08:52.200 It's right there in black and white.
00:08:54.000 So why didn't they do that part other than they know they can?
00:08:58.120 And they know they'll get away with it.
00:08:59.160 And they want to humiliate a Christian pastor and scare his congregants. 0.96
00:09:04.700 So you have thousands of protesters in Montreal and Toronto, pro-Hamas, some of them violent.
00:09:09.280 No problem to police.
00:09:11.140 Trudeau's worried about Islamophobia.
00:09:13.080 COVID, what's that?
00:09:14.820 Hey, by the way, did you know that anyone who protests outside is a racist white supremacist?
00:09:20.520 Yeah, I learned that from the mayor of Calgary.
00:09:22.640 Those people at those anti-mask protests, let's not kid ourselves.
00:09:26.280 They're not people who need to eat.
00:09:28.720 They are people who are marching in thinly veiled white nationalist supremacist anti-government
00:09:34.440 protests, and they don't deserve that kind of sympathy.
00:09:37.280 And I also learned that from the head of the NDP.
00:09:39.280 Yes, I do think that there is a connection with people who aren't wearing a mask or who
00:09:45.640 aren't following public health guidance and the extreme right and the idea that folks in
00:09:50.480 the extreme right don't care about people around them, aren't concerned about the safety and
00:09:55.220 well-being of people generally, their neighbours and the people in the community.
00:09:59.540 And to brazenly not follow public health guidelines puts people at risk.
00:10:06.140 And that is something that we've seen with extreme right-wing ideology, putting people at risk,
00:10:10.920 not being concerned about the safety of others, not being concerned about the welfare of others.
00:10:14.980 There is a connection, certainly.
00:10:16.680 I wonder where they are now.
00:10:18.300 They really are worried about white supremacist Nazis.
00:10:20.680 They keep saying so.
00:10:22.540 And they wouldn't lie.
00:10:23.640 Okay, so look at this, Nazi flags, not from white supremacists, but from the pro-Hamas protesters.
00:10:32.400 These are the new Nazis, no doubt about it, swastika flags. 0.95
00:10:35.900 I'm trying to confirm that these were in fact taken in Hamilton, Ontario.
00:10:39.780 I'm still double-checking that.
00:10:41.420 But here's what Hamilton police were busy doing on the weekend.
00:10:45.940 This is our head of video, Efron Monsanto.
00:10:53.640 Hello, Efron.
00:10:58.100 How's it going?
00:10:59.060 Efron Monsanto.
00:11:01.260 Oh, you have a pre-written ticket for me?
00:11:02.740 Yeah, buddy.
00:11:03.160 Okay.
00:11:04.260 So, here we issued a ticket for Phil to comply with the country section.
00:11:08.540 Order.
00:11:09.400 Reopening active interior.
00:11:10.360 This is another 885.
00:11:11.660 Okay, yeah, buddy.
00:11:12.840 Whoa, for what again?
00:11:13.960 I wasn't even part of this game.
00:11:15.180 I've been separated from the whole group.
00:11:16.440 Okay, well, we have you here.
00:11:18.000 And there's a stay-at-home order in the dark.
00:11:19.900 Also, like, you know, the Pal City rally was here Thursday.
00:11:22.280 What do you have to say for that?
00:11:22.900 No one was ticketed then.
00:11:23.840 Okay, well, here's your ticket.
00:11:27.140 Okay, you can go to court.
00:11:29.860 I'll explain to you the three options from the back.
00:11:36.780 So, for simply being outside reporting, you guys.
00:11:38.800 Okay, you have a few options in the back.
00:11:39.960 First one is you'd be guilty, you'd pay it off.
00:11:42.520 Second one was earlier resolution, you'd be with a prosecutor. 0.96
00:11:45.120 Third one is you'd be able to travel.
00:11:46.680 Okay, whatever you choose to do, you can mail it off to the address right here.
00:11:49.760 There's one question.
00:11:50.640 This is for, like, public health.
00:11:52.520 You're within two meters of me.
00:11:53.900 Like, do you feel unsafe right now?
00:11:55.040 Let me explain the address to you, so you understand.
00:11:57.800 Okay.
00:11:57.980 Sure, go ahead.
00:11:59.040 15 Main Street East, Hamilton, Ontario.
00:12:01.920 You understand?
00:12:02.980 Yeah, sure.
00:12:03.460 There you go.
00:12:04.080 Thank you.
00:12:04.480 Got it.
00:12:05.820 So, our reporter, standing alone, reporting on a protest, gets a ticket, almost $1,000 from police, who were spying on him from inside a building and came out and gave him a free fab $880 plus tax fine.
00:12:18.800 You can see the cop himself violated the six-foot rule.
00:12:22.580 There's no sense there.
00:12:24.420 They were too busy techening Efron to, you know, do anything about the Nazi patrol, stop the mini-riot, too busy arresting Christian pastors, too busy busting up Christian services in the middle of them. 0.61
00:12:39.660 There are mosques that are busy, too, but maybe police don't go there because maybe the police don't think their congregants will go away as quietly as the pastors I've shown you today.
00:12:52.500 Why would police think that could be the case?
00:12:54.820 Why would police think that maybe mosques might be more resistant, maybe even violent?
00:12:59.440 I don't know.
00:12:59.800 Well, if that is their rationale, that's Islamophobia, the soft bigotry of low expectations.
00:13:06.760 So, maybe Trudeau is right after all, and maybe the police need to go through some sensitivity training.
00:13:14.620 Welcome to our mad world.
00:13:16.140 Welcome to our mad world.
00:13:46.120 I am very happy to talk about that in a way.
00:13:47.300 Anyway, I just know the good guys from the bad guys.
00:13:49.600 I feel the same way about Israel.
00:13:51.400 I have a special connection and affection as a Jew, but I think, I would certainly like to think, that even if I were not Jewish, and even if I had never visited the place,
00:14:02.540 I would still stand up for Israel against the Hamas terrorist group, an explicitly anti-Semitic
00:14:11.100 organization that can best be understood as a modern reincarnation of the Nazi party. If you
00:14:17.500 read their charter, you can see they explicitly want to kill not just Israelis, but Jews. They
00:14:25.300 don't want to have some sort of rapprochement or new deal with Israel. They want to utterly destroy 0.99
00:14:31.420 it and exterminate it. It is language reminiscent of Hitler's Mein Kampf. That's my view, and 0.86
00:14:39.300 I hate to see the violence and that war pop up here in Canada and some of the violent protests
00:14:46.200 we saw throughout the country on the weekend. Of course, it's a minor point to note that
00:14:51.840 police certainly didn't enforce anti-gathering lockdown laws, mask laws, social distancing
00:14:58.140 laws against those folks. Meanwhile, they were locking down churches and arresting pastors.
00:15:04.180 But one of the most interesting things that probably escaped much notice because it's behind
00:15:10.080 the scenes is an open letter to Canadian newsrooms uncovering Israel-Palestine. And this has been
00:15:20.780 signed by more than 1,500 reporters or those who want to be reporters. And just in the very title
00:15:29.280 there, you know where they're coming from because the battle is between the Hamas terrorist group
00:15:34.240 and Israel, but it's immediately being recast as a battle between Israel and Palestine. Let me just
00:15:39.080 read a few lines from this open letter to you. The Middle East is complicated. We need to hear both
00:15:45.400 sides. Everyone has a lot of emotions about this. These are just some of the excuses news editors
00:15:51.800 have provided to Canadian journalists trying to cover the escalating violence against Palestinians.
00:15:58.660 Oh, is that what we're talking about? Is that the only violence to talk about? And it is,
00:16:04.560 we have to lose that nuance according to this letter and we have to embrace the truth of one side,
00:16:10.480 the Hamas side, that accuses Israel of, quote, ethnic cleansing. This letter goes on to demand
00:16:17.960 that media in Canada be advocates for Hamas. And it's signed by reporters who work for the Globe and Mail,
00:16:27.220 CTV, Global News, the Toronto Star, CBC, and many others. Joining us now via Skype to talk about this
00:16:36.140 is our friend Andrew Lawton from True North News. Great to see you again, Andrew.
00:16:40.140 You know, I was just chuckling. It's not funny though. When you and David Menzies and Kian Bexte applied
00:16:48.260 to cover the 2019 leaders debate, you were excluded by the Parliamentary Press Gallery who claimed you
00:16:57.060 were advocacy journalists. Now the federal court threw that out as untrue, but it's incredible that
00:17:02.580 people who would call you advocacy journalists are demanding that all media in Canada say that
00:17:09.900 Israel is an ethnic cleansing Nazi state and that this, the other side is simply peace-loving 0.96
00:17:16.280 Palestinians don't even talk about terrorism or Hamas. And they're still working at these media 0.99
00:17:22.280 outlets. The whole thing's incredible to me, Andrew. What do you take, what's your take on the
00:17:26.080 whole thing? You're very right. And you mentioned in your introduction there that this didn't really
00:17:30.700 make the news. I would say that's true, but that doesn't mean it's not reflected in the news.
00:17:36.080 Because what's happening here is dozens, perhaps hundreds of mainstream media journalists in Canada
00:17:42.200 are actually signing a letter that says they will not represent both sides of a conflict.
00:17:48.480 That, and even that line you gave at the beginning, that we need to hear both sides.
00:17:53.040 The letter rejects that idea. They reject the idea that there is another side to be heard
00:17:58.900 when covering the conflict between Israel and Hamas. And that is something that is incredibly 0.93
00:18:04.280 dangerous. There's another paragraph that they talk about. Why shouldn't Palestinians be afforded 1.00
00:18:09.900 the same nuance, referring to other groups? And by nuance, again, they don't mean a detailed context.
00:18:16.160 They mean, why are they not being painted as the good guys by the press? Now I would say,
00:18:21.860 and I'm unequivocally pro-Israel, and I own that. I'm very transparent about it.
00:18:26.040 These are the people who claim that their reporting is objective. These are the people
00:18:30.860 who claim that they don't have a bias, that their position is neutral, and everyone else's
00:18:35.240 is opinionated. And that's why this is so dangerous, because you have people in the media
00:18:40.040 conspiring, it's in an open letter, but by definition conspiring, to paint Israel as being
00:18:46.040 a perpetrator of ethnic cleansing. When, by the way, it's Hamas's charter that calls for the ethnic 0.95
00:18:52.220 cleansing of Jews, not the other way around. Yeah. You know, let me just read one more line 0.83
00:18:57.180 from this letter. This is their official point of view, and they're saying you are too nuanced
00:19:04.120 if you dispute this. They say Israel was guilty of decades-long crimes against humanity, against
00:19:10.160 Palestinians. And they say that that needs to be covered more widely. Now that's an opinion. 0.91
00:19:19.220 I may disagree with it, but these 1,500-plus signatories are saying that is the way we must
00:19:27.280 cover this issue. It's as if they're putting their own ideology ahead of their, first of
00:19:33.760 all, ahead of their editors, ahead of their viewers, and they're saying we are going to
00:19:37.500 use all these media in which we have roots. Like the very first signatory on this is Andre
00:19:44.020 Domaes, who's a contributing editor to McLean's very first signature, a senior guy at McLean's
00:19:50.020 saying, yeah, Israel's an ethnic cleanser. They're guilty of war crimes. This is how we're going to 0.99
00:19:55.040 cover it. And anyone who doesn't is, you know, in cahoots with the bad guys. I don't know. I mean,
00:20:02.100 I think their only mistake is making this letter public because they were just doing this anyways.
00:20:07.260 Yeah, that's the whole thing. Now they've been very transparent, and I guess we can be grateful
00:20:11.320 about that fact if there were actually attention being brought about to this by people other than
00:20:16.440 you and me. But the reality is that with Andre Domaes, I'm not as concerned. He's a columnist.
00:20:22.300 He's opinionated. Everyone knows where he stands on this. It's all of the people who hold themselves
00:20:27.120 up as the arbiters of truth and neutrality that I take issue with. There are, I think, about two
00:20:32.740 dozen from CBC that have identified themselves as being with CBC, numerous others from The Globe,
00:20:38.600 Global, CTV, lots from the Toronto Star. And interestingly enough, I was looking through
00:20:44.680 some of these names, and you might not be surprised by some of them. You might not be shocked, but
00:20:50.660 certainly the volume of it and the transparency of, hey, we believe that it's important to tell
00:20:55.980 a biased, anti-Israel version in our coverage when this thing happens. And I wonder if the public
00:21:02.700 editors are going to respond to this. I wonder if any of the management, any of the owners are going
00:21:06.860 to respond to this. I'm not holding my breath, quite frankly.
00:21:09.620 You know, just as you were saying that, I went to the letter. You can find the document online,
00:21:14.860 and I typed in CBC. And there are 30 hits on this from, you know, I mean, let me just give you an
00:21:22.640 example. You mentioned that Andre Demise, I think I'm pronouncing that right, is an opinion journalist.
00:21:27.020 Fair point. Well, Matthew Amha is with CBC News. Jody Porter is a CBC reporter.
00:21:35.240 You know, Latifah Abdin is a producer with CBC News Network. Peter Ash is a senior researcher.
00:21:45.840 I'm just reading these. Andrea Selinger, producer. Beza Saif, senior producer radio.
00:21:53.140 So these are not columnists. These are not, it's not like someone who's known for having spicy hot
00:22:01.380 takes is saying, yeah, you know me, I'm on the side of Hamas. These are people within the bowels of the
00:22:09.400 organization that are tweaking things. Researchers, Tannis Fowler, editor, CBC News, Vivian Tabar,
00:22:16.940 CBC, like it, I won't read them all. There are literally 30 CBCers alone. I shouldn't be picking
00:22:22.880 on the CBC. You should guess the CBC, but there's Globe and Mail people here. There's Toronto Star
00:22:27.340 people. I don't know. How can you, on the one hand, I'm glad they're outing themselves, but
00:22:33.740 I think they should, everything these people touch should be labeled opinion now. Like if they're saying,
00:22:41.180 we believe there's ethnic cleansing, we believe this is an apartheid racist state, 0.81
00:22:46.600 we believe that there's decades long crimes against humanity, and that's how we're going
00:22:50.580 to cover it. All right. All right. But I don't think you can then say, no, no, I'm just a neutral
00:22:56.820 reporter now. I think what their, their work should be labeled commentary. And if it's at the state
00:23:02.340 broadcaster, I mean, they have to say, well, do, I think we have an even larger interest because,
00:23:09.000 I mean, listen, if someone wants to have any opinion in the world, that's fine. It's a free
00:23:12.860 country, especially in a free newspaper. But if it's in the state broadcaster, do you think we have
00:23:18.140 some sort of right to object, Andrew? Well, you'd think, I mean, we are the, you know, we are the
00:23:24.080 payers of the CBC, but unfortunately there's not much in the way of accountability there. I will say
00:23:29.940 on the weekend when I, when I discovered this letter, I tweeted about it and tweeted my concerns with
00:23:35.000 the lack of neutrality and objectivity that was being called for by the design of this.
00:23:40.700 And I had a lot of response to it from, from many of the people who signed this letter,
00:23:45.380 taking aim at my position because they see neutrality as enabling. They see, you know,
00:23:50.280 just like if you were neutral when the Holocaust was taking place, that's the comparison they draw
00:23:54.840 between this. And the reality is that there's a gross misrepresentation of facts, of context,
00:24:00.760 of history. They don't understand the situation on the ground. But the reality is that they are
00:24:06.440 so arrogant as to believe that their position is neutral. That that's one of the more egregious
00:24:12.140 part of this. They think that if they take an advocacy position, well, it's not advocacy because
00:24:17.140 that's where everyone should be. Yeah. That's a great point is that they don't even realize or they
00:24:24.000 won't, sorry, they won't accept that what they're saying is a point of view. They're just saying it's an
00:24:27.820 absolute fact. I'm just going through and just typing in Toronto Star, Global Mail. It's, it truly
00:24:33.560 is widespread. And I don't think I should be as surprised as maybe I am because I remember not
00:24:38.680 long ago when the National Post had sort of a woke struggle session against Rex Murphy. Rex Murphy,
00:24:48.360 really one of the two remaining reasons to subscribe to the National Post, the other being Conrad Black.
00:24:53.620 Rex Murphy wrote an article saying Canada is not inherently racist. We're trying our best. We're
00:24:59.280 multicultural. We're really friendly. You know, he, he didn't say that Canada is not racist at all. He
00:25:05.160 said we're not inherently congenitally racist. And the majority of the National Post newsroom signed a
00:25:16.360 condemnation of not, not just a small number and, but a majority of the Post. So this is allegedly
00:25:22.900 the most right-wing newspaper in the country, I suppose. And if they are this far down the woke
00:25:29.500 river, of course the Star, the Globe, the CBC are going to be just as far. So I, I think this is just
00:25:35.920 a state of where media and politics in Canada are today. Yeah, no, I will point out the honorable
00:25:41.580 mention goes to the brave CBC Toronto reporter who was the 143rd signatory, uh, by the name of
00:25:48.360 Anonymous Anonymous at CBC Toronto. So, so even at CBC, they don't quite know if they can go the
00:25:54.360 whole distance and put their name to it, or perhaps their name is Anonymous Anonymous. You never know.
00:25:58.660 But, but that's, I mean, that is almost worse though, because now you have someone who is going
00:26:03.480 to allow this to cover, color their coverage, but they won't even publicly own up to the fact
00:26:08.060 that they are putting their anti-Israel agenda front and center in their reporting.
00:26:13.240 Well, yeah. I mean, that's the giveaway, isn't it? I mean, everyone knows where I stand. Everyone
00:26:17.180 knows where you stand. We say who we are. We say what we stand for. We say what we say.
00:26:21.900 People can take it or leave it. Much of what we do is commentary, although we both do
00:26:25.420 news reporting, but we are who we are. For someone burrowed into the CBC to sign this incendiary letter,
00:26:33.220 but to hide their identity shows they know that what they're doing is inappropriate. They know that
00:26:40.060 they're in a position where they can't be saying this because it casts into question their neutrality,
00:26:45.900 their accuracy. And that's actually the worst signature of them all because it's someone who
00:26:51.520 says, yeah, I shouldn't be doing this. I know that. And I know I'll be removed if I do because I'm in a
00:26:58.980 position that requires trust and impartiality, but I just want the world to know we're everywhere.
00:27:06.020 I think that's actually the worst giveaway. I don't know. I'm worried about the war.
00:27:13.760 I think that in some ways the bigger war is in the West. I mean, obviously the rockets are not
00:27:20.780 falling out here, but I saw armed, sorry, not armed. I saw marauders in the United Kingdom driving
00:27:27.900 through the streets with speakers saying we're going to find Jewish girls and rape them. I saw 0.99
00:27:33.460 a gang of Brits with Palestinian flags smashing their way into an apartment looking for a YouTuber
00:27:41.140 who was critical of Palestinians. Let me just show the proof of what I've just said. Here's
00:27:45.080 these cars driving through London saying we're going to rape Jewish girls. Take a look.
00:27:50.220 Unbelievable. And here is a gang of pro-Palestinian radicals smashing into an apartment Hamas style
00:28:09.700 looking for someone who they thought said something that was too critical. Take a look.
00:28:14.660 That's actually more worrying to me, Andrew, is that the violent mentality, the thuggishness
00:28:38.220 of Hamas isn't just in Gaza anymore. It's in the West. And even Justin Trudeau couldn't muster 0.56
00:28:45.700 himself to condemn it specifically and forcefully. He just said, oh, hey guys, no anti-Semitism and
00:28:51.800 certainly no Islamophobia, okay? Okay, good night. That's what I'm worried about even more than the
00:28:57.300 war, Andrew. Well, anti-Semitism is the last acceptable bigotry. And this is the tremendously
00:29:04.360 dangerous thing that people will condemn individual aspects of it when you do see flare-ups. But for
00:29:12.200 the most part, this is something that is ingrained in what passes for political discourse, especially
00:29:18.180 around Israel. And again, I'm not saying that criticism of Israel equates to anti-Semitism,
00:29:22.640 but I'm similarly going to say that the two are often inextricably linked. And a big part of this
00:29:27.820 comes down to the fact that so many people on the left have no issue connecting Hamas to Palestine
00:29:35.040 and actually accepting the premise that Hamas is the representative of the Palestinian people in this
00:29:42.200 conflict. And that, to be honest, is on them. They should be the first ones to say, yes, we can support
00:29:48.660 Palestinian people and support all of these human rights issues we say we care about, but also realize
00:29:53.700 that there is a group of terrorist thugs who are speaking for them, who are firing rockets in. But
00:29:58.220 so many people on the left, in the West, including in Canada, have accepted that Hamas is engaged in
00:30:05.000 what they view as some sort of legitimate resistance by firing rockets into Israel. And you can't believe
00:30:10.600 that without believing that Jews are worth dying. Yeah. You know, I was at university more than 20 years
00:30:20.180 ago. And this stuff was just percolating into the colleges since then. For a quarter of a century,
00:30:24.900 it's been percolating and bubbling in the universities. But things don't just stay in the
00:30:29.200 university. Those university students graduate and move into the workplace. Now, many workplaces,
00:30:35.460 it doesn't matter what your politics are, but any of those that depend on ideas, journalism,
00:30:40.360 history, other professors, those wicked ideas from a quarter century ago are now in the mainstream.
00:30:46.480 And this is the kind of letter you'd see in a student journalism newspaper a generation ago. But now
00:30:54.260 it is in the heart of the media industry itself. It's scary times. Andrew, great for, thanks very much
00:31:00.060 for joining us today. It's great to see you again. Always a pleasure. All right. There you have it.
00:31:03.900 Andrew Lawton, the boss of The Andrew Lawton Show, and he works at True North, which you can find
00:31:09.180 at TNC.news. Stay with us more. Hey, welcome back on all the new Rebels joining our team. And by the way,
00:31:27.620 we actually hired another Rebel in Quebec after we recorded that. Bruce writes,
00:31:33.540 I love all these new people, the Rebels hiring. I'm encouraged to see so many young folks
00:31:38.060 who are able to think rather than just parrot leftist talking points. Me too. I mean, I'm 49.
00:31:43.920 I don't know how it happened. Last I checked, I was like 28 or something. And then poof, I'm 49. I don't
00:31:49.800 know where the years went, but almost everyone's younger than me now, except for my friend David
00:31:54.320 Menzies. But it is great to have so many young people. It's hopeful. And there's an energy there and
00:32:01.940 new skills, especially in the digital media world. Barb writes, great crew, really touched by Matt
00:32:07.160 Brevner's story and how he was the product of cancel culture. It's very inspiring how he handled it and
00:32:12.400 used it to shape how he moved forward. Yeah. And you know, I interrupted him when he was talking. I
00:32:17.080 shouldn't have done that. And then someone wrote me an email. In fact, I talked too much, but Matt had a
00:32:21.020 very poignant story, didn't he? Jack writes, five new Rebels. Eat your heart out, Gilbone. You know, 0.72
00:32:27.200 you're not kidding. I was talking to a lawyer for McLean's the other day. And he said to me that
00:32:32.700 McLean's has a grand total of 14 staff. Well, I think we're around 30 now and we're hiring more.
00:32:39.460 And we're actually doing interesting stuff, not just rewriting liberal press releases. I mean,
00:32:45.940 I always think of us as small and our office is very modest. It's in a low rent part of town. All
00:32:51.840 the furniture is secondhand. You know, we really are modest in many ways. But maybe I have to get
00:32:59.240 over the idea that we're a startup. I mean, we're more than six years old now, so we're not quite a
00:33:03.480 startup. And 30 people and millions of viewers, maybe we're not quite as little as I still think
00:33:10.160 we are in my mind. In fact, maybe we're the biggest independent news agency in Canada. Maybe
00:33:16.680 that's exactly why Stephen Gilboa is coming to kill us. I'll leave you on that happy thought.
00:33:20.940 Hey, folks, great to see you again. Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at
00:33:24.720 Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night. Keep fighting for freedom.