Rebel News Podcast - Two examples of how the pandemic is an excuse to set up a permanent surveillance state

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. Today, I want to give you two examples of how the pandemic is being used as an excuse to bring in what I fear could be irreversible elements of a surveillance state.

00:00:12.640 In the name of the virus, the federal government and provincial governments are spying on us, and I don't think we'll ever be able to get that malware out.

00:00:22.020 I'll take you through two examples.

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00:01:08.460 Tonight, the pandemic is being used as an excuse to set up a permanent surveillance state.

00:01:14.720 I'll give you two examples. It's May 18th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:18.240 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:23.800 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:27.900 The only thing I have to say to the government, the wire publisher, is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:33.760 You know what a ratchet is, right? It's a tool, actually a family of tools, really, where you move a wrench or another lever in both directions, but it only has an effect one way.

00:01:49.640 Like, here's a jack for lifting up a car.

00:01:52.600 You move the lever of the ratchet back and forth, but the car you're lifting doesn't go up and down and up and down.

00:01:57.820 It just goes up, or you switch it, and then it goes down.

00:02:00.340 That's a ratchet at work.

00:02:02.760 It's the same thing when it comes to government regulation or government taxation.

00:02:06.020 Pretty much anything to do with the scope of government.

00:02:08.480 Once a tax is introduced, like the income tax, it goes up, but it never goes back down.

00:02:14.000 It never goes away.

00:02:15.260 Once a freedom is lost, you never get it back.

00:02:18.120 It only goes one way, like a ratchet.

00:02:20.960 And, of course, I'm talking about the pandemic.

00:02:23.780 Look at this story in Blacklock's Reporter out of Ottawa.

00:02:27.620 It's about that app made by the federal government to download onto your cell phone that would detect other cell phones with the app,

00:02:36.340 and it would contact trace you for the virus to let you know if you've been near other people with the app who had the virus, too.

00:02:44.620 I mean, imagine willingly, voluntarily signing up for that spyware on your phone.

00:02:50.460 But don't worry.

00:02:51.140 I mean, I mean, Justin Trudeau himself promised, and I mean, cross your heart, no cross fingers, stamp, stamp, no erases.

00:02:59.280 He totally promised it wouldn't invade your privacy.

00:03:02.860 I mean, you can trust him, right?

00:03:05.600 It protects the privacy to a greater degree than some health experts would like.

00:03:10.600 They'd love to know who you contacted so they could communicate with them.

00:03:14.440 They'd love to know where you were in order to see better what kind of case spread is happening.

00:03:21.340 But we made the decision that protecting people's privacy and getting more people to use it was the right decision.

00:03:29.920 So it absolutely protects your privacy.

00:03:32.420 It's totally voluntary.

00:03:34.500 Well, incredibly, 6.3 million people actually did download that app.

00:03:38.420 Now, out of 38 million Canadians, it's not a ton, but it's still a lot.

00:03:43.020 I mean, that's a heck of a thing right there, to know that there are 6.3 million people who love to tell the government about themselves.

00:03:50.600 It's sort of an IQ test.

00:03:52.580 They voluntarily let their health data into the hands of Trudeau, but he promised he'd treat it carefully.

00:03:59.380 But look, it's still a failure, so says the government itself.

00:04:02.740 They wanted us all to have this malware on our phones.

00:04:05.540 But here's what the story is about.

00:04:07.760 Let me read the headline.

00:04:09.780 Use Fed app for data scoop.

00:04:13.980 Huh.

00:04:14.740 A COVID alert app downloaded by more than 6 million Canadians has been used for data collection, says a federal panel.

00:04:22.020 Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had promised users' privacy would be respected when the app was launched 11 months ago.

00:04:27.780 The government of Canada has begun to broadly consider how the COVID alert app could potentially extend beyond a government's service to Canadians and the public health systems,

00:04:39.120 towards a tool that will also support Canadians and businesses in our economic, social and mental health recovery and restoration, wrote Cabinet's App Advisory Council.

00:04:52.140 The panel acknowledged privacy worries.

00:04:56.520 The council, in a first interim report, said Cabinet, quote,

00:04:59.100 has consulted Statistics Canada regarding any data of value they may be collecting, e.g. the number of mobiles in Canada and best methodologies and practices for the calculation of data that could be applied to the government of Canada's current approach, e.g. app downloads.

00:05:14.760 Hmm.

00:05:14.960 That's odd.

00:05:16.120 I thought Trudeau said this was all private.

00:05:19.420 The report did not identify what information was sought from 6.3 million of 33 million Canadian mobile device users who downloaded the app.

00:05:28.680 It will be critical for individuals and businesses in Canada to have trust in the app's ability to support the safe return to work sites and universities, their reopening of businesses, and their use of modes of transportation, including public transit, wrote the council.

00:05:43.440 Huh.

00:05:44.100 Really?

00:05:44.620 Is that what we have to trust?

00:05:46.800 That it'll be used for those good purposes?

00:05:48.580 I thought we were told it wouldn't be used for any purposes.

00:05:51.360 But remember Doug Ford himself, the Premier of Ontario, boasting that one time that he could track people who landed at the Pearson International Airport and went into the city.

00:06:03.620 He said he could do that.

00:06:05.540 Gee, who gave him the search warrant to track people on their cell phone?

00:06:11.000 Here's more from Blackbox.

00:06:12.160 Yeah, I think they're conditioning.

00:06:42.160 He said he could do that.

00:06:44.340 He said he could do that.

00:06:45.380 6.3 million people have obediently agreed to it already.

00:06:48.660 That's pretty incredible.

00:06:50.320 Now, it didn't work, by the way, at least for the original purpose.

00:06:53.860 But was that the real purpose?

00:06:55.180 Let me read.

00:06:57.080 As of February 24th, only 24,695 of 852,000 Canadians infected with the COVID uploaded an app alert, less than 3%.

00:07:08.980 The council acknowledged the program was not successful.

00:07:12.160 Some Canadians remain unaware of the existence of the app or its primary benefits, wrote the council.

00:07:16.880 Some who have downloaded the app have chosen to uninstall it.

00:07:20.060 Well, they're naughty.

00:07:21.660 Some subgroups within Canada's population may be less inclined, able, or willing to download the COVID alert app, said the council, including students.

00:07:29.340 Privacy advocates, they're the worst.

00:07:31.680 Immigrants who speak neither English nor French and seniors, only 60% of whom carry smartphones with them on a regular basis. 0.99

00:07:37.380 Hey, do you really think that the contract tracing was the primary purpose of the app?

00:07:43.560 Or do you think there was another purpose that we're starting to get a feeling for now?

00:07:48.380 Imagine giving Trudeau access to that.

00:07:51.140 But look, it's not just Trudeau.

00:07:52.580 Look at this story from Alberta.

00:07:53.940 It's every government, conservative or liberal.

00:07:58.360 There are authoritarians in every party.

00:08:00.780 This is from the Alberta Institute, a group I want to learn a little more about.

00:08:04.420 I like the cut of their jib from what I can see.

00:08:06.060 They saw news that the government of Alberta had put out what's called a requisition or a request for proposal, an RFP.

00:08:13.040 That means the government asked companies to send in pitches, proposals, prices on a project to spy on families going out camping this summer by using spy drones.

00:08:28.040 I'm serious.

00:08:28.760 Now, the backlash today has been so strong, the government has already deleted it, but not before the Alberta Institute took a screenshot of it to, quote,

00:08:38.940 provide airborne intelligence surveillance reconnaissance, including live electro-optical and infrared video.

00:08:47.520 I'm serious.

00:08:48.140 That's military-grade spying.

00:08:50.360 Infrared.

00:08:50.920 That's spying at night, even.

00:08:52.860 And look at the completion date, during holidays and weekends this summer.

00:08:57.860 Best summer ever.

00:08:59.860 And look, they want to spy on people camping, campfires and vehicles in parks.

00:09:05.780 And look at the bottom panel there, to provide digital images to the government at the end of each weekend.

00:09:10.340 Oh, really?

00:09:11.560 Presumably for use with facial recognition technology.

00:09:15.080 And then hit those people with fines or arrest them, maybe throw them in jail.

00:09:19.440 I mean, why not? 0.86

00:09:20.400 They're putting pastors in prison.

00:09:22.120 And why not put some families who were camping in prison, too?

00:09:26.760 I've showed you before the graph of people who are dying from the virus in Alberta.

00:09:30.780 It's about five people a day, which I regret.

00:09:32.840 But the average age is 81, with three or more deep health problems.

00:09:37.820 Dementia, heart attack, stroke, that sort of thing.

00:09:40.140 Serious illness.

00:09:41.260 So not the kind of folks who would be off-roading or hiking in the wild on summer weekends.

00:09:47.740 But even that five people a day, as you can see, is down 80% from flu season.

00:09:53.560 So there is no panic, no crisis, no justification for this.

00:09:56.580 But still, this idea is new, using the pandemic as an excuse to justify and establish spying on citizens in the countryside, from afar, using aircraft, drones, collected by private companies that are outsourcing spying on people without a warrant.

00:10:13.920 I mean, why not?

00:10:15.780 Look, 6.3 million people signed up to have your phone track you.

00:10:20.380 I bet some voyeurs out there would love to have spies filming their private camping and hiking moments.

00:10:26.520 But most of us wouldn't.

00:10:27.820 Look, you know, I remember, it must be 25 years ago, I read a book called The Road to Serfdom.

00:10:33.760 Have you ever heard of that book?

00:10:34.660 The Road to Serfdom. 0.95

00:10:35.640 By an Austrian economist named Friedrich Hayek.

00:10:39.100 He's the granddaddy of free market economics.

00:10:41.460 The book was dedicated, there's a dedication in front of the book, to the socialists of all parties.

00:10:49.560 And I never understood that.

00:10:51.420 When I read that, I said, what do you mean?

00:10:53.940 The socialists of all the parties?

00:10:55.560 Even the conservative parties?

00:10:57.940 Surely, surely he's just joking.

00:11:01.540 Yeah, I'm older now, and I see that he's right.

00:11:03.740 There aren't just socialists in all parties, which there are.

00:11:07.440 There are authoritarian Orwellian bullies in all parties.

00:11:11.460 There's two.

00:11:13.180 Justin Trudeau, Jason Kenney, Liberal Tory, NDP, whatever.

00:11:16.920 They are all using the pandemic as an excuse to ratchet away our freedoms.

00:11:23.580 The socialists of all parties.

00:11:25.580 Hayek was right.

00:11:26.960 This drone project was scrapped, but not before it was approved.

00:11:31.740 By dozens of people?

00:11:33.640 The government knew about it, and we're fine with it, and they published it.

00:11:37.200 None of this is really about a virus, is it?

00:11:40.860 We'll leave.

00:11:53.820 I've also heard of studies of secondhand smoke, and I really don't want my lungs to suffer from that,

00:12:01.120 from this lady's beautiful wife here.

00:12:05.500 Yeah, thank you, ma'am.

00:12:06.640 Absolutely.

00:12:07.600 You guys take care.

00:12:08.600 Keep staying.

00:12:08.960 You too.

00:12:09.620 Have a nice day.

00:12:11.620 Oh, good, sir.

00:12:13.280 How about yourself?

00:12:13.860 I don't mind leaving them alone, okay?

00:12:15.780 They don't want you talking to them, so can you just move on?

00:12:18.820 Here, why don't we go behind here?

00:12:20.040 Well, let's go over here.

00:12:21.120 Well, no, wait a second.

00:12:22.220 I'm sorry.

00:12:23.640 I'm sorry.

00:12:24.340 No, no.

00:12:24.720 They don't want you to talk to them, okay?

00:12:26.560 Yeah, they're in a public place, officer, so I will talk to them.

00:12:29.780 Please move out of the way.

00:12:30.820 I'm losing my patience with you.

00:12:31.600 Okay, I'm moving out of the way right now.

00:12:33.360 Five times, okay?

00:12:34.500 Okay.

00:12:34.940 I'm standing in the roadway.

00:12:36.280 I don't want to get hit by a car, so please move.

00:12:38.660 Come over here, officer.

00:12:40.220 What is the crime I'm committing right now?

00:12:42.480 What is the crime?

00:12:43.940 I'm not obstructing you.

00:12:45.220 Please move out of the way, okay?

00:12:46.760 I am here asking...

00:12:48.140 I'm in a mobile order to leave these people alone.

00:12:49.520 You're telling me you're not going to, so if you don't follow my directions, get your microphone out of my face.

00:12:54.680 You came to me, sir.

00:12:56.580 Yes.

00:12:57.180 Okay.

00:12:57.540 Asking you to move back out of the way.

00:12:59.040 Okay, well...

00:12:59.740 As far as I know, the practice of journalism is not illegal yet, so unless I'm mistaken, you can write me up for a ticket.

00:13:06.040 This is going to happen, okay, Mr. Menzies?

00:13:07.180 You're going to leave this area.

00:13:08.560 I've asked you not to harass these people.

00:13:10.340 If you come back and you speak with them, you will be arrested for harassment.

00:13:12.720 I am on a public piece of land.

00:13:14.660 You have no right whatsoever to make me leave this area.

00:13:17.200 I do have a right to allow you to...

00:13:19.140 Can you quote me the law, sir?

00:13:20.620 Okay, yeah, criminal harassment, okay?

00:13:22.220 Criminal harassment.

00:13:22.720 They've asked you to not speak with them and not to bother them.

00:13:25.160 Conducting journalism, sir.

00:13:26.720 You are arrestable for that.

00:13:28.160 I am arrestable?

00:13:29.620 For harassment?

00:13:30.820 Is he not able to answer the questions?

00:13:32.780 In the course of my duty is to inform you that you are not to harass people.

00:13:36.940 That's why I'm here speaking with you.

00:13:38.100 Okay, then you're going to write me a ticket for harassment.

00:13:40.780 I didn't say that I'm going to write you a ticket.

00:13:42.340 So I'm trying to figure out what...

00:13:43.520 You won't leave these people alone or you're going to get arrested for criminal harassment.

00:13:46.220 And I know you don't believe in freedom of the press.

00:13:47.900 Will you stand there and be quiet?

00:13:49.380 No, I will not be quiet.

00:13:50.560 Then you will be arrested if you approach...

00:13:52.840 Arrested for talking.

00:13:54.240 Is that what we're into now?

00:13:55.560 And asking questions is harassment?

00:13:58.540 If they don't want to talk to that?

00:13:59.920 Yes, absolutely.

00:14:00.960 Really?

00:14:01.200 Can I see the criminal code violation that spells that out?

00:14:03.900 Yeah.

00:14:04.260 Anybody has a right to not be harassed, okay?

00:14:06.120 Okay.

00:14:07.340 And...

00:14:07.540 And move away from me.

00:14:08.860 Please get the microphone out of my face, okay?

00:14:11.060 What is the benchmark of harassment?

00:14:13.340 Anybody that doesn't want to be harassed, okay?

00:14:15.400 Please move out of the way.

00:14:16.300 I've told you...

00:14:16.780 I think you're harassing me, officer.

00:14:18.520 I'd sure love to see the proviso of the criminal code that says a journalist can't ask questions.

00:14:26.140 I know that exists in North Korea.

00:14:28.760 I know that exists in Iran.

00:14:30.700 But in Elmer, well, I guess these guys are misplaced officers.

00:14:35.140 They would be cops of the year in those kind of dictatorships, I should think.

00:14:39.540 Absolutely outrageous.

00:14:41.680 Our friend David Menzies, who held his own admirably, joins us now in studio.

00:14:47.600 David, where was that?

00:14:49.280 Elmer, I understand.

00:14:50.400 That's where the Church of God, Pastor Hildebrandt, was.

00:14:53.540 Their church was raided by police, in my opinion, an illegal and unconstitutional raid.

00:14:58.440 But let's put that aside.

00:15:00.080 Where were you and who were you talking to when these busybody cops came up to you and said, 1.00

00:15:05.240 stop doing journalism?

00:15:06.060 Yes, Ezra, that is directly across a major artery that runs into Elmer,

00:15:11.200 right across the street from the Church of God in Elmer.

00:15:15.360 And we pulled over because there is, and I'm not making this up,

00:15:19.200 Elmer's only a town of 7,000 members of the trans community, which I think is two,

00:15:25.460 were staging a protest on the side.

00:15:27.980 So in that SUV, there were two people, and they were, I don't know why they were protesting the church.

00:15:37.280 They kind of got their way.

00:15:38.700 The doors were locked on Friday by court order.

00:15:41.440 The church was fined $117,000, which they do not have in their coffers.

00:15:46.760 And I guess they were protesting the fact that there's an outdoor assembly.

00:15:51.660 So my line of questions were along the lines of, why are you concerned about congregants getting together outdoors, Ezra?

00:15:59.760 Whereas, as we saw last summer, Black Lives Matter protesters in greater numbers getting together,

00:16:07.220 as we saw on the weekend as well, pro-Hamas demonstrators getting together.

00:16:11.620 And also, we know from top infectious disease experts that the chance of outdoor transmission at a protest,

00:16:18.900 at a religious gathering, is virtually zero.

00:16:22.440 And further to the fact, I don't even remember, I can't remember,

00:16:28.700 we had a, you know, it was not a pleasant exchange back and forth,

00:16:32.660 but I don't remember them saying, go away, I'm not talking to you, you're harassing me.

00:16:37.020 The cop made that narrative.

00:16:38.540 Yeah, the cop was not involved in your conversation with the trans folks, am I right?

00:16:42.780 That's right.

00:16:43.340 He wasn't even there, he didn't even hear it.

00:16:44.780 Well, as you saw, when the police approached me, I was at a red minivan.

00:16:48.680 It was full of rebel fans.

00:16:52.000 They couldn't go on camera, of course, because I think they have jobs where they'll be fired from, such is our society.

00:16:57.880 You made some joke about smoking or something.

00:16:59.760 So they came up to you afterwards.

00:17:01.680 Yeah, the no smoking thing, Ezra, was the woman in the SUV, and I'm not saying this to be mean,

00:17:08.140 but she was obese, she was lighting up a cigarette. 1.00

00:17:13.360 It was a joke, it doesn't even matter what it was.

00:17:15.120 My point is that the cops were not involved in your conversation with the trans folks at all.

00:17:19.520 Yeah, and the conversation had ended by the time they got on the scene.

00:17:22.680 You know, there's so many things wrong with this.

00:17:24.440 First of all, and you held your own very admirably.

00:17:27.340 First of all, never turn the camera off.

00:17:30.260 Oh, we didn't.

00:17:31.300 I know you didn't, and I'm glad you didn't.

00:17:33.120 Just because some cop says turn off the camera.

00:17:35.740 I can conceive of no place where a policeman would have lawful authority to ever tell someone to turn off the camera,

00:17:42.620 other than perhaps in a private bathroom or changing room where privacy is required.

00:17:48.600 Yes.

00:17:49.100 Other than that, for a cop to stay, stop filming at a public street, a public protest about an event in the public interest.

00:17:57.220 When someone is coming to protest, they, through their conduct, invite media scrutiny.

00:18:04.140 And for these police, these officious intermeddlers to inject themselves, actually not even to inject themselves.

00:18:10.580 They didn't, they weren't even part of your conversation with the trans.

00:18:12.840 They came up afterwards because they hate you because, and they knew your name because they follow you on Rebel News because you are the only journalist, one of the few journalists, Rebel News is one of the few journalism organizations that scrutinizes and criticizes these lockdown bullies.

00:18:29.780 So they hate you for a pre-existing reason, and they were just trying to shut you up and make some excuse up.

00:18:37.180 Yeah.

00:18:37.420 In fact, I want to touch upon what you just said, Ezra.

00:18:40.560 The ostensible policy reason, I would think, of a protest is to get the message out to as many people as possible.

00:18:46.880 Even if you hate little old Rebel News, that's besides the point.

00:18:50.500 We're going to get this message, whatever their message was, out to far more people than them just screaming on a roadside, you know, and honking their horn.

00:19:00.140 So it goes against the very idea of having a protest in the first place.

00:19:04.480 But this officer, I think he was making up things that goes along.

00:19:09.100 Absolutely.

00:19:09.660 You know, I know a little bit about the law of criminal harassment, and you have to repeatedly, on multiple occasions, stalk someone or beset them in a manner that is threatening to them.

00:19:22.100 Yes.

00:19:22.700 None of those, and there's several other elements.

00:19:24.620 I don't have the criminal code in front of me.

00:19:26.640 But for him to say you having a mutually voluntary conversation with a public protester in your capacity as a public interest journalist, where you're not threatening, you're not stalking, where you had already left, he is lying. 1.00

00:19:41.300 I don't think he's that stupid. 0.99

00:19:43.420 I think he and his boss there were trying to come up with reasons to paper over their pure distaste for you. 1.00

00:19:49.820 But they live in a still-free country.

00:19:52.860 I've got to tell you, David, I'm so mad at their misconduct.

00:19:55.160 I think 99% of journalists would have fled, saying, oh, please don't charge me, officer.

00:20:00.460 I think you know enough to stand your ground.

00:20:03.240 But it's not enough just to stand your ground. 0.97

00:20:05.140 And I'm glad we put the names of those two cowards. 0.97

00:20:07.800 You know, I'm embarrassed to call them cops. 0.97

00:20:09.540 They're destroying trust and respect and any admiration for the police.

00:20:13.460 I have to say, the amount of damage that the police of this country have done to their reputation last year and a half will take decades to rebuild.

00:20:20.780 And these are amongst two of the worst.

00:20:22.780 I don't think it's enough for you to have stood your ground.

00:20:25.160 Because two armed cops threatening you with arrest.

00:20:28.740 And one of them, even for a moment there, said, if you continue to ask questions.

00:20:32.880 Really?

00:20:33.880 Really?

00:20:34.620 I think it behooves you and us to file an official complaint against those cops with whatever the Police Complaints Commission is in Aylmer.

00:20:43.220 I don't think those cops did anything worthy of a lawsuit.

00:20:45.980 They didn't assault you, as has happened to our people before.

00:20:50.340 They didn't falsely imprison you or handcuff you or falsely arrest you.

00:20:54.280 But their unprofessional, misleading...

00:20:59.000 I mean, you were bloody right when you said, you're almost harassing me, officer.

00:21:04.560 That was the harassment. 0.91

00:21:06.320 Yeah.

00:21:06.560 And Ezra, you know, you're absolutely right. 0.97

00:21:08.040 First of all, I hope you are right about the fact that they're not that dumb. 0.95

00:21:11.880 That they are merely lying as opposed to being so unintelligent. 0.99

00:21:16.340 Because I don't want people armed with lethal force being dummies. 0.97

00:21:20.280 But you're right. 0.91

00:21:21.240 Where was the harassment?

00:21:22.280 It was a public street.

00:21:23.340 Now, these two trans individuals, if they were in their home and I was on their porch, on private property, banging on the door,

00:21:29.800 I demand you talk to me.

00:21:31.360 Oh, that's harassment.

00:21:32.940 Absolutely.

00:21:33.620 And I have no right to be there.

00:21:34.600 However, the law actually requires it to be a series of events.

00:21:37.380 But I take your point.

00:21:38.440 Okay.

00:21:38.640 That would be very different.

00:21:39.680 You'd be on private property.

00:21:40.940 You wouldn't be leaving.

00:21:42.340 There would be some element of threat there.

00:21:43.840 You're right.

00:21:44.300 None of those elements were here.

00:21:45.640 Exactly.

00:21:45.900 These cops know it.

00:21:46.980 The fact that they knew your name, to me, was the tip off.

00:21:50.380 How do they know your name?

00:21:51.440 Exactly.

00:21:51.560 Because they follow your journalism and they're angry that they can't do things in the shadows.

00:21:57.080 And one of the things that Rebel has done over the last 14 months is shine a light of public scrutiny on police forces that think they can get away with it.

00:22:03.700 And we've talked about this in our staff meetings.

00:22:05.740 It's called the observer effect.

00:22:08.080 When you measure something, sometimes you change it.

00:22:11.080 And what I mean by that is if you hadn't been there with our cameraman, Sid, to film what was going on, the police misconduct would have likely have been greater.

00:22:19.240 And whenever we, you know, I know this from various weekend protests in Hamilton, in Toronto, even in Montreal.

00:22:26.700 When our camera goes on, the police all of a sudden are very well behaved because they know the public will see it.

00:22:33.320 And so that's the observer effect.

00:22:36.020 Our filming changes the world, but not every cop likes that.

00:22:40.620 And what we saw here are two cops who are furious that we observe and that they want to be unsupervised.

00:22:48.400 They want to act with impunity.

00:22:50.440 They don't want any accountability.

00:22:51.660 The worst are the Montreal police who don't even have body cameras.

00:22:55.180 They lie and know there's no video to check.

00:22:57.780 Yeah.

00:22:58.200 I really mean it.

00:22:59.400 I think you need to, with our lawyers, file a complaint to the police commission.

00:23:04.280 Have the chief answer for this.

00:23:06.400 Yes.

00:23:06.900 Is this the kind of conduct that is cool in Aylmer?

00:23:11.000 Because it is a disgrace if it is.

00:23:13.060 And the cherry on this Sunday, Ezra, is, let's go back to last October.

00:23:19.440 This is when there was a big outdoor rally and there was a counter demonstration.

00:23:23.520 And I had an individual, we ran one of our projects, Find the Thug.

00:23:28.160 He came to me.

00:23:29.520 He grabbed my hands.

00:23:30.780 That's physical assault.

00:23:31.840 He took the microphone out of my hands.

00:23:34.540 He smashed it on the ground.

00:23:36.400 The Aylmer cops were there in a heartbeat.

00:23:38.520 I said, arrest this man.

00:23:40.080 And they said, what's the effect of, can't you see we're busy?

00:23:42.920 Busy doing what?

00:23:43.780 Directing traffic?

00:23:44.940 Handing up parking tickets?

00:23:45.980 You know, the Aylmer police really are one of the most disgraceful police forces in Canada.

00:23:50.580 I will not say they're worse than Montreal because I don't think any police department in Canada is more corrupt.

00:23:57.260 But Aylmer sure is trying hard to get that low title. 0.69

00:24:03.180 Well, David, you have the full support of our team.

00:24:05.580 Luckily, in this case, the police were restrained, probably by their own cowardice, from touching you, from arresting you, from proceeding.

00:24:13.600 They just thought they could bully you, and you were resistant to their threats.

00:24:18.100 But that is not good enough conduct for police.

00:24:21.500 And I look forward to your filed complaint, and we should do another segment when you do that.

00:24:25.960 But 14 months into this lockdown, into this pandemic authoritarianism, the best police have either been reassigned or quit, and the worst police are loving their new boundless powers.

00:24:40.300 And it is terrifying, and I have to wonder how much more of this before we truly start to meet the definition of a police state.

00:24:50.620 Imagine two cops saying, if you ask more questions, you will be arrested.

00:24:58.580 That is a shame to police everywhere.

00:25:01.200 In Ontario 2021, not North Korea, not Iran, you know, not some banana republic, but right here in our great dominion, in our democracy.

00:25:09.420 I share your concern, Ezra.

00:25:11.320 And it always makes me want to go back next Sunday and see if the counter-protest with the trans community is there and interview them again.

00:25:18.300 Because we don't bend our knee, and I want to thank you for going to bat for Sid and I and getting that complaint process.

00:25:27.100 This deserves to be complained about.

00:25:29.160 It's not a lawsuit, like you said. 0.99

00:25:30.420 But these are cops that are either too dumb to understand the Charter of Rights and our constitutional freedoms, or they're lying through their teeth about it. 0.96

00:25:39.080 And my question is, what's the agenda? 1.00

00:25:41.060 Yeah, I don't think they're dumb. 1.00

00:25:42.220 I think they're bullies. 0.99

00:25:43.440 And that's the worst thing you want in a policeman.

00:25:45.720 Someone who can't control his emotions and is motivated by a vendetta.

00:25:49.680 Such a person should not have a gun.

00:25:51.700 Yeah, I agree.

00:25:52.940 All right, folks, there you have it.

00:25:54.060 David Menzies fighting for freedom, fighting for your freedom.

00:25:57.580 He's there with the camera.

00:25:59.500 His freedom of speech is protecting your freedom of speech.

00:26:02.740 Stay with us more ahead.

00:26:15.160 Hey, welcome back.

00:26:16.060 On my show last night, B.B. writes about Trudeau and says,

00:26:19.740 Can this tweet be used as evidence in those cases of tickets issued for gathering, for protests?

00:26:24.480 Oh, listen, I mean, I don't really think we have the rule of law.

00:26:29.640 I think we have police issuing tickets that they either know are unconstitutional or know they're issuing just as abusive harassment.

00:26:37.940 I think the courts are slowing down like molasses.

00:26:41.780 I don't think any of these lockdown fines have actually gone to trial yet.

00:26:47.200 The whole thing is abusive.

00:26:48.640 The massive fines are surely unconstitutional.

00:26:50.920 So if there were the rule of law here, I think we're moving pretty close to a police state these days.

00:26:56.500 Yeah, maybe that tweet could be used as some sort of evidence.

00:26:58.960 But I think the entire political system is failing.

00:27:02.700 The government is failing.

00:27:04.360 The opposition is absent without leave.

00:27:06.880 The media in the main is cheering on the authoritarians.

00:27:10.160 And the courts aren't touching this.

00:27:12.200 I think we have a total system failure.

00:27:13.640 On the police barging into Pastor Hildebrandt's church, Jane writes,

00:27:18.760 Pastor Hildebrandt motioned for them to come into the church, if you had watched a few minutes before on the video.

00:27:25.240 Listen, those cops disturbed the service.

00:27:28.200 They just did.

00:27:29.340 And they didn't just come in.

00:27:31.700 They ordered everyone out.

00:27:33.300 Now, if I were there, I would have stopped my church.

00:27:36.940 But I would have said, come back with a warrant.

00:27:38.560 But it is indisputable that the church was disrupted and disturbed by those cops.

00:27:46.380 And why did they do so?

00:27:47.540 Why were they there in the middle of the service?

00:27:49.400 Listen, I hear your point.

00:27:50.000 You're trying to make a technical, specific point.

00:27:52.920 I don't think that's the issue here.

00:27:54.680 I think the issue is, what are you doing attacking a church on the same weekend as thousands of people are meeting for a politically correct protest?

00:28:02.280 It's just like last summer when you had all the Black Lives Matter protests.

00:28:05.240 And Justin Trudeau himself went out to take a knee.

00:28:07.560 And the cops went out to take a knee.

00:28:09.080 They didn't give out tickets for illegal gatherings then.

00:28:12.280 This is selective justice, which is another way of saying no justice.

00:28:16.680 That's our show for today.

00:28:17.740 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:28:22.300 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:28:23.220 We'll see you next time.

Rebel News Podcast - May 19, 2021

Two examples of how the pandemic is an excuse to set up a permanent surveillance state

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