Rebel News Podcast - Cancelling Keystone XL： Biden's gift to Trudeau

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00:00:26.760 Now the show is not about the Whistle Stop. It is about Keystone XL and Joe Biden and how Canadian

00:00:34.580 politicians are handling the cancellation of the Keystone XL pipeline and my guest tonight to discuss

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00:01:47.880 Is Justin Trudeau happy to let Joe Biden be the bad guy? I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gun Show.

00:02:17.880 Well Keystone XL is officially cancelled with a stroke of the pen by new president Joe Biden. It

00:02:30.520 still feels gross to say that doesn't it? Now Keystone XL was stalled by the Obama administration

00:02:39.600 that was the administration that Joe Biden was the vice president of. However it was pushed forward

00:02:47.360 nearly immediately by President Trump and I think it's a common misconception that the pipeline isn't

00:02:54.440 built. It is. The cross-border section is in the ground. But Joe Biden is undoing all of that

00:03:02.840 continuing to landlock Canadian oil and gas since that pipeline would take oil from the oil sands through

00:03:09.260 Hardesty, Alberta all the way to the Gulf of Mexico. Now I have a friend, a guest on the show tonight

00:03:18.460 who thinks that this is Biden's gift to Trudeau. That Trudeau gets to outsource his anti-oil nature

00:03:29.400 to Joe Biden so that Trudeau doesn't have to be the bad guy. My guest tonight is Tom Harris from the

00:03:37.500 International Climate Science Coalition. He has an incredible article in the Toronto Sun about Joe

00:03:44.220 Biden, Trudeau and their new anti-oil alliance. And he joins me in an interview we recorded in my vehicle

00:03:54.860 because I have been on a great burger stakeout in central Alberta where there is a bit of a rebellion

00:04:04.340 against the cancellation of dine-in food service here in Alberta. So it is not the usual studio

00:04:14.340 quality that you expect but I will assure you the content it's there. Have a listen.

00:04:24.860 So joining me now from his home in Ottawa and me from my car in the middle of small town Alberta is

00:04:42.700 Tom Harris of the International Climate Science Coalition. Tom thanks so much for your patience with

00:04:49.980 me today but also for taking the time to talk to me. I read a really incredible article about something

00:04:57.420 that I think is the top of mind for many Albertans but many people in Canada who care about foreign

00:05:06.140 influence in our politics and about energy security for all of North America. And that article in the

00:05:14.860 Toronto Sun was titled Killing Keystone XL is Biden's gift to Trudeau. And I think you know who wrote

00:05:22.140 that. Yeah I wrote it because it suddenly struck me that you know Trudeau is constantly calling himself

00:05:29.100 a climate warrior you know and he and Catherine McKenna dressed up in superhero costumes to try and show

00:05:35.300 how they're really you know climate uh climate campaigners climate activists etc. And those are his

00:05:41.780 primary friends when it comes to this file. I don't think it is the the oil sector workers but at the

00:05:46.700 same time he has to put on the face of looking like he cares about the workers. So who's he going to

00:05:52.080 alienate? Is he going to alienate his climate activist friends by allowing the Keystone XL to continue or is he

00:05:59.200 going to alienate normal Canadians by cancelling one of the most important projects in Canada? So Biden has

00:06:05.580 done him a huge favor because now he doesn't have to make any decision. He doesn't have to annoy anybody

00:06:10.340 because he just says well Joe Biden did it. There's nothing I can do about it. Sorry move on.

00:06:17.660 You know that it really was an easy out for Trudeau that you know he hands off the um being the bad

00:06:26.880 guy over to Joe Biden um and Trudeau thinks that he can skate unscathed for never actually ever

00:06:37.020 supporting Keystone XL. And I think it's been uh really remarkable as an Albertan to see

00:06:43.580 the lack of support for what appears to be 11,000 jobs that were instantly nuked by the cancellation

00:06:53.980 of Keystone XL versus how Trudeau was willing to break the law um for SNC-Lavalin jobs um he

00:07:03.940 backed a crooked Quebec engineering company a company that is accused of buying hookers for 0.87

00:07:10.960 Muammar Gaddafi's kids. He was willing to break ethics laws for that and yet we get a you know it's

00:07:18.860 it's Biden so it's whatever that's what we get here in Alberta when it comes to Keystone XL.

00:07:25.260 Yeah exactly and of course Trudeau has been laying the groundwork for the cancellation of this

00:07:30.600 pipeline forever really and in fact it's interesting that in the French version of his speech just last

00:07:35.880 week he was saying and he didn't say this in the English version as far as I know but regardless he

00:07:41.240 said that Biden's objectives and his uh perspectives actually align very nicely with Trudeau's.

00:07:47.600 So he's sort of saying it's okay for you to cancel the pipeline um and and also of course as I say

00:07:53.700 he's been laying the foundation for the cancellation by promoting the mindset that we have to stop

00:07:59.320 you know go to carbon neutral by 2050 and and uh so and out of one side of his mouth he says oh yeah

00:08:06.100 sure I stand up for the Keystone pipeline but then the other side of his mouth he's he's supporting the

00:08:11.780 climate scare and of course the climate folks want to end all fossil fuels and this is where I think

00:08:17.340 Jason Kenney and a number of the American governors are really off base in their arguments in favor of

00:08:22.880 the pipeline they're constantly saying well you know it's a much cleaner way to transport fuel

00:08:27.600 than by trucks or by rail and they're right that's that's completely true but it's irrelevant to the

00:08:33.600 climate activists and the people who want to kill all fossil fuels because sure they killed Keystone XL

00:08:39.700 and if they start doing it by truck more they'll try and kill that if they want to do it by rail or by

00:08:45.300 ship or by doesn't really matter their overarching objective is to kill all fossil fuels so so the

00:08:52.340 next thing Kenny says is well you know if the Americans don't get the oil from us they're going

00:08:56.820 to have to get it from foreign dictators well yeah that's true also but again it's irrelevant and 0.60

00:09:02.660 Sheila you know I made up a bit of an analogy I think that will show how silly uh their arguments are

00:09:08.260 and their arguments are destined to fail because they're saying on the one hand we have this great

00:09:12.460 climate crisis and you know the war room when they were defending the project after Biden's

00:09:17.940 cancellation if you actually look at the statements they made uh what are they called the um Alberta

00:09:24.420 uh let's see here we go it's called the Canadian Energy Center that's their war room they actually

00:09:31.180 use language that boosts the climate scare in their rebuttal to Biden okay and even the Canadian

00:09:37.460 Chamber of Commerce Parambidi did the same thing so all these groups seem to feel that they can give

00:09:43.060 virtue signaling to the climate scare and that there won't be consequences well of course there are

00:09:48.940 consequences the consequences are that Biden says and and he could assemble a very good uh television ad

00:09:55.580 for Canadians if he wanted go through YouTube pull out videos of Kenny of Scott Moe of Trudeau saying

00:10:02.820 we have a climate scare we have to go carbon neutral put them together into an ad and say

00:10:07.880 Biden would say to Canadians okay we're doing what your leaders want you should be thanking us for

00:10:12.980 saving your poor starving polar bears but instead you know they use weakling arguments from Canada and

00:10:20.720 the governors what they really should simply say is look you cannot run uh an industrial society on

00:10:27.800 wind and solar power because if you look at Biden's um comments over the over the months he's actually

00:10:34.120 been suggesting you can replace oil with wind and solar you can't do it and the second thing is of

00:10:39.360 course the keystone is causing no climate crisis and that's something that they're all afraid to say

00:10:44.800 and yet without saying that they're not addressing the major reasons that Biden killed it and of course

00:10:50.860 Obama in 2015 so they're just skirting the issue and they're going to lose and they continue to lose and

00:10:57.360 they will always lose if they don't address the primary issue well and I think it's even worse than

00:11:03.760 just losing they're actually conceding too much of the battleground they're moving the front lines

00:11:09.320 closer to themselves when they can see the language of the left don't even talk about climate change then

00:11:16.600 just talk about the sheer economics of it the sheer unreliability as you point out of uh wind and solar

00:11:24.820 that you cannot run an economy on wind and solar Tom it has been minus 30 here okay you got to thank God

00:11:34.440 every day for the miracle of fossil fuels to keep Canadians alive in these extreme temperatures where

00:11:41.560 we are I mean it is really the miracle of fossil fuels that we are able to live and thrive and continue

00:11:49.960 to dig up fossil fuels in this economy to help everybody else yeah exactly in this entire climate

00:11:57.140 and that's really lost on people who are deciding that we need to get off fossil fuels from their cozy

00:12:05.120 little cubicle in the tides foundation building in San Francisco yeah exactly you know the whole concept

00:12:13.120 that you can support an industrial society with wind and solar I mean this is what I call magical thinking

00:12:18.940 it's equivalent to new age spiritualism where they talk about uh new age prism power you know how

00:12:25.700 I mean it's truly ludicrous and and you know I made up a bit of an analogy I should explain

00:12:31.480 let's say when the government's ready to distribute COVID-19 vaccines there's an anti-vaccination group

00:12:37.900 who's opposing it so the government says well if you don't let us distribute it people are going to have to

00:12:42.960 go to the black market to get this COVID-19 vaccine and besides we're working hard on prison power which

00:12:50.660 of course the anti-vaccines say will cause you know we will solve COVID okay so it's ridiculous I mean

00:12:57.000 obviously the only way that you could win that argument is is to demonstrate that the vaccine is safe if in

00:13:03.200 fact it's safe to demonstrate it's safe and you have to state point blank no prison power new age

00:13:09.660 prison power is magical thinking it does not kill COVID-19 and but you know Jason Kenney and others

00:13:16.980 it's almost like they're saying please forgive us for our oil because we're still working on wind and

00:13:21.960 solar power you know yeah and it's just so pathetic really um Mark Garneau's statement we were we respect

00:13:29.060 and understand I think is what he said our foreign affairs minister well yeah we respect and understand

00:13:34.380 we don't respect but we do understand it's purely political in the United States you know they're

00:13:39.580 saying well you know if the Canadians don't sell us their oil they're just going to sell it somewhere

00:13:43.840 else they're missing the point too the objective of the climate activists is to stop all production of

00:13:51.580 the oil sands yeah sure we could send it somewhere else if in fact big protests and pipelines you know go

00:13:58.280 through and the protests don't stop it um but but people are not taking a strategic overview and the

00:14:04.080 overview is simply that pipelines are one mechanism but they want to kill all the mechanisms they want

00:14:10.240 to blow up all the bridges of fossil fuels out of the oil sands indeed they want to blow up all the bridges

00:14:16.400 of fossil fuels everywhere so a lot of the arguments are are pretty darn weak you know what they really

00:14:23.300 should be saying is you need fossil fuels and here's why and here's their benefit and they're

00:14:29.500 not causing a climate crisis so now we should move on do you know I'm happy that you brought up that

00:14:36.580 the idea that we do need to take a broader overview of the environmentalist activist movement I was actually

00:14:43.760 talking to my friend Robbie Picard from oil sands strong yesterday and he said he does not think these

00:14:50.740 Americans understand really what's at play here that in Canada I suppose because of our awareness through

00:14:58.860 you know Stephen Harper's government wanting to audit these environmental charities and in Alberta you

00:15:05.740 know we've we see the activism from the environmental movement blocking our pipelines it you know it started

00:15:12.500 with Northern Gateway it's continuing with uh Trans Mountain Energy East was a target now Keystone XL

00:15:19.660 we see the influx of foreign funded money how they use um the indigenous people to as basically human 0.99

00:15:28.420 shields for what they're doing and they round up the useful idiots to block pipelines and I don't think 0.99

00:15:35.460 that they really truly understand what's about to be unleashed on them in the United States with 0.99

00:15:42.040 Biden in power because these are the people who put Biden and Kamala Harris in power these are the

00:15:47.820 green new dealers these are the Naomi Clines and they don't care about science they don't care about 1.00

00:15:54.340 the economy they want to end fossil fuels and they are just those watermelons with the red center

00:16:00.980 wrapped in the green outside and I think a lot of the American uh industry the oil and gas industry is

00:16:09.920 going to be really caught off guard at how quickly it's going to become very very difficult to get a

00:16:16.260 project done in the United States oh yeah yeah we don't take a strategic view on lots of things I mean

00:16:22.180 we fight these as individual battles the coal people fight by themselves natural gas will even oppose 0.97

00:16:28.020 coal because they think they can get a market share right but but I mean it's like Ben Franklin said we

00:16:34.260 either all stand together or we all hang together I mean the fact is fossil fuels are the target across the

00:16:41.100 board of the climate activists they want to get rid of all of them and it may be true that in the short

00:16:45.840 term natural gas benefits from coal's demise but in the long run bang bang bang bang they want to knock

00:16:52.820 them all off and so you should support coal if you're a natural gas person because you're next

00:16:58.320 and you should support natural gas if you're an oil person because you're next they want to end the

00:17:03.320 whole thing and in my opinion Sheila if if Premier Kenney is brave enough to have a war room and to have 0.99

00:17:10.180 this study into foreign influence then he should be brave enough to say look there's never been a

00:17:16.000 proper open public hearing in Canada about the science that we say or that the activists say is

00:17:23.020 backing the climate scare so we're going to hold a hearing we're going to invite in scientists from

00:17:27.240 different points of view we're going to have it available to the public I'm not going to judge

00:17:31.660 Premier Kenney could say I'm not a climate expert but I'm going to let the experts Professor Patterson

00:17:36.600 from Carleton or Ian Clark from Ottawa U many many experts know the climate scare is ridiculous

00:17:42.740 and when the public would hear that it would pave the way for him to start saying the things that he

00:17:48.140 should say he doesn't have to do it now but get it started because it's never happened in Canada

00:17:53.980 that's the thing that he should do and as I say if he's brave enough to write or to start the war room 0.83

00:17:59.780 and and have this report which the Globe and Mail is you know completely attacking today then yeah you might

00:18:06.360 as well do the right thing and the right thing is to try to show that there is no climate crisis and

00:18:11.420 certainly even if there were the contribution of the oil sands is trivial in comparison with what's

00:18:17.080 happening in China where they have no limits and they're going to build coal stations forever 0.99

00:18:21.140 so that's what you should do yeah and I I agree now I do appreciate how vocal Premier

00:18:29.360 Kenny has been um especially selling the plight of Alberta to our American friends um he did a great

00:18:37.540 job on Fox News but again he he's sort of conceded too much ground to the environmental left he even went

00:18:44.300 on MSNBC uh that festering liberal hotbed to uh sell the Alberta viewpoint and I think maybe they let

00:18:55.580 him on because he was a Canadian and they just assume we're all socialists um but I think it is

00:19:01.480 fascinating to see how Premier Kenny is leading the charge on this issue and Justin Trudeau is just sort

00:19:09.040 of shrugged his shoulders and and put his head down and again I think it goes back to how you describe

00:19:15.260 that this is Joe Biden's gift to Trudeau this is Joe Biden he gets to be the bad guy in Canada because

00:19:22.680 we can't vote for him and he gets to be the good guy to the environmental movement in in the United

00:19:27.820 States yeah exactly and I think Kenny is completely right to have no patience with Trudeau with Garneau

00:19:34.060 with our ambassador to the United States because their responses were extremely weak and as he said

00:19:40.300 if you compare it with other times when he was defending eastern Canadian interests it was entirely

00:19:45.460 different but you know in some of those broadcasts it was really interesting because I was watching a few of

00:19:50.180 them last night including that one and they would have Kenny come on and he'd present the standard

00:19:55.000 arguments you know cleaner uh you know Americans are our friends and and all these things but then

00:20:00.560 immediately after him they would have an an anti-oil sands activist come on and they would not emphasize

00:20:05.980 that they would emphasize it's the climate scare just like Obama said and just like Biden said and you

00:20:12.380 think oh that's interesting um Kenny didn't even really address that except to say oh please forgive us

00:20:18.180 because we're working to reduce greenhouse gases he didn't really address the fact that their scare

00:20:24.000 is is ridiculous I mean it doesn't make any sense so you hear these two arguments being presented it's

00:20:30.080 like somebody saying well how tall are you oh well I'm white uh yeah that's nice but how tall are you 0.93

00:20:35.400 and and they keep answering something different you know and not just something different but pardon me for

00:20:42.560 being over five foot seven I'm sorry I'm working on seeming smaller exactly please forgive us for our 0.85

00:20:48.940 oil because we're working on wind and solar no they should say wind and solar are hopelessly pathetic

00:20:54.340 when it comes to really supplying proper energy so that's the other side of the equation he has to be

00:21:00.040 direct on the climate he has to be direct on the real sources of energy if you go anywhere in the

00:21:05.480 mushy middle you're gonna lose and that's why they continue to lose now I want to talk to you about

00:21:12.920 something that is unrelated but it is one of those fronts in um you know climate skepticism that is

00:21:21.800 under attack um and that is our ability to talk about these things and you've had a 35 year

00:21:29.900 battle with the cbc you've been fighting the cbc long enough for your fight with cbc to have their

00:21:40.220 own kids in school yeah tell us all about this yeah well it started in 1986 when they were covering

00:21:47.480 the space shuttle challenger launch that was coming up in january exactly 35 years ago tomorrow on tuesday

00:21:53.700 on thursday and um the interesting thing was that they kept saying like many of the media

00:21:59.280 that nasa was not launching with the reliability and regularity of the uh french arian rocket and

00:22:07.020 of course it was very cold in florida then in fact there were icicles on the oranges so I called the

00:22:11.720 cbc the national who were criticizing nasa on the on the tv for not launching with the frequency of the

00:22:18.500 arian and I explained to the producer I said you know there you can't compare a manned booster with an

00:22:24.700 unmanned booster I mean if the unmanned one blows up they lose a lot of money but nobody dies

00:22:28.900 they didn't really have any patience but the cbc kept pushing and of course lots of media across the

00:22:33.920 united states were doing the same thing so nasa eventually overruled their engineers who were

00:22:39.520 concerned about safety with respect to the launch they hadn't launched ever at such low temperatures

00:22:44.860 there are various components they didn't know how well they would work and so they launched anyway

00:22:49.080 and on the 28th of january 1986 we had the challenger disaster where the whole crew was lost it was

00:22:56.740 actually driven largely by media and so you know I called cbc up because then they started to

00:23:03.380 criticize nasa for launching at that time and I called up the producer and said well you know

00:23:08.360 they're doing what you were saying they should do now you're just cutting them up again so they

00:23:13.920 it was it was really bad and they had no interest again whatsoever so I realized at that time as an

00:23:19.640 aerospace engineer if I was going to get this covered reasonably correctly I had to learn about how to be a

00:23:25.700 media person myself so I took a course at algonquin it worked out pretty well because I got into the

00:23:31.400 climate area and space and all sorts of things but you know one uh interesting chapter in the battle

00:23:37.320 with cbc was in the year 2000 I wrote a letter to them saying you keep saying there's a consensus in the

00:23:43.560 climate science community about the causes of climate change as far as I know there is none show me that

00:23:49.200 there is one so the president of the cbc assigned the omswoodsman who then was david bazay who's since

00:23:55.340 passed away uh to actually prepare a report to show there was a consensus in the climate science community

00:24:00.760 and a little later I got a 10 page answer and I thought oh this is great we'll see what he says

00:24:06.020 and I went through it not a single scientist not a single scientific organization was referenced

00:24:11.720 what he did is he looked at other media and what he showed was that in those 10 pages he showed

00:24:18.520 there was a consensus in the media that there was a consensus in the climate science community

00:24:23.480 so I wrote to the president and I said well he hasn't demonstrated anything about consensus in the

00:24:28.600 climate science community he's starting there's a consensus in the media like so what and the president

00:24:33.240 was very satisfied the case was closed I got a job with Bob Mills as the legislative assistant for

00:24:39.280 the opposition environment critic and of course the party wouldn't want me to fight with the cbc when

00:24:44.800 i'm working for the party so i had to drop it but since then you know there's even been one instance

00:24:49.920 for example where i went in for an interview with radio canada cbc's uh radio and uh they took the audio

00:24:57.280 of my interview and they rearranged sentences to make it say or make me say things i didn't really say

00:25:04.800 now i got i was able to give them a bit of a black eye because i had my own recording of the original

00:25:11.040 interview smart put that up along with theirs and i said to the public is that fair and of course i

00:25:17.680 got a lot of people saying no it wasn't and even today i mean same thing they get on they censor their

00:25:23.200 comments pages you know your content is disabled and i write to them i'm not breaking any of your rules

00:25:29.200 like why can't i talk about some of the benefits of donald trump why can't i talk about an alternative

00:25:34.880 perspective on covid or climate change no answer i get on again i say well i'm trying again i'm not

00:25:40.800 breaking any of your rules delete so they continue to do it and people have got to appreciate that

00:25:47.920 whatever they hear on cbc is extremely biased in these topics and often totally wrong and if you try

00:25:54.720 and correct them even if you're an expert in the field as i was at the time they just ignore you

00:26:01.520 we have seen this firsthand we had a viewer of ours who knows a little something about something he

00:26:10.320 was watching i think it was the national and they were talking about these islands off the east coast

00:26:15.360 that are you know constantly changing and being eroded by the ocean and so they're shrinking but then

00:26:20.880 they're growing in other places as these things tend to do that the sand just doesn't disappear it

00:26:26.160 moves somewhere else is that's how you know those are the laws of thermal dynamics things just don't

00:26:31.600 disappear they get moved around and restructured and end up somewhere else so the viewer saw this and

00:26:39.120 saw cbc presenting just one side of it saying the yes indeed these little islands are being eroded

00:26:45.920 but that's because of climate change it's because of you know rising tides because things are melting

00:26:53.280 and this is all because of climate change and so he wrote to the ombudsman and said actually no this is

00:26:59.600 you know all we this has always been happening there and you know the the shoreline changes all the time

00:27:06.240 and the sand is deposited deposited elsewhere and complained that it was an unbalanced view of it

00:27:13.760 and the ombudsman wrote him back and said that while that i suppose very well may be true we will

00:27:23.920 never present two sides of the debate when the topic is climate change ever that is cbc policy that there

00:27:34.080 are not two sides that the skeptics are 100 wrong 100 of the time on everything well and you know they do it

00:27:41.680 it on other fields too i mean uh i used to be a member of a church and cbc interviewed one of the

00:27:47.440 top parishioners in the church and they asked him a question and he answered the question they asked him

00:27:53.520 the same question again he answered the question they kept asking him the same question he finally

00:27:58.080 got frustrated and he answered kind of angrily they took that clip and they put it on air because they

00:28:03.440 were trying to show i mean presumably they were trying to show that our group was a right-wing radical

00:28:09.360 angry church group and so they do it on all kinds of things you know like there's no way we should

00:28:15.040 be funding the cbc i mean if they want to stand or or not on their own volition that's that's their

00:28:20.800 business but for the canadian taxpayer to pay for that extremely biased coverage in many fields is just

00:28:27.120 wrong well and they know the taxpayer won't pay for it out of their free will that's why they're so

00:28:33.440 opposed to to the possibility of having to go the pbs route oh yeah you know just one quick point on the

00:28:40.800 climate issue um what jason kenney should be saying also is we can't stop climate change no matter what

00:28:47.040 you believe about the science so we should work on adaptation we should help people adapt to climate

00:28:53.360 change whatever the cause burying cables underground you know helping reinforce buildings that are falling

00:28:59.120 down in the north where the permafrost is melting of course it's increasing in other places due to

00:29:03.680 natural change so that's the thing but in canada there's only 13 percent of the money going to

00:29:09.440 adaptation to helping real people today and the rest of it all goes to this fairytale idea that you can

00:29:15.920 actually stop climate change so that's where the emphasis has to shift it has to shift over to

00:29:21.600 sensible adaptation to help real people now well any again that's a great point to make that canada is

00:29:30.960 so small in the grand scheme of things large country tiny population tiny contribution to greenhouse gas

00:29:39.280 emissions if you think those are doing something to the planet so we are never going to compel china 1.00

00:29:46.720 and india to de-industrialize so if indeed you do think that you know greenhouse gases are are changing

00:29:55.920 things then let's figure out how to best deal with that change as opposed to de-industrialize ourselves

00:30:04.080 have no impact on anything and watch china take over the world yeah exactly that's exactly how i would put 1.00

00:30:10.880 it too it's like you're in a in a lifeboat an inflatable lifeboat and you're puncturing it with

00:30:16.560 a pin and somebody else is using a chainsaw and you get after the pin punctures yeah and that would

00:30:24.080 assume that the climate theory is right which i don't believe it is but if it were we're just a

00:30:30.000 little tiny pinprick in comparison with china's chainsaw i mean we're gonna have no impact except 0.68

00:30:35.680 ruin our economy for nothing now tom you're being very kind because i am on my phone in my vehicle at a

00:30:44.160 diner rebellion and you are actually recording this zoom call on your side um so uh i don't

00:30:51.920 want to take up too much of your time and i guess too much of your hard drive space but if you wouldn't

00:30:56.480 mind telling everybody where they can find the work that you do support the work that you do and please

00:31:02.160 don't forget to tell everybody about your excellent podcast yeah sure my podcast first if you do a google

00:31:09.040 search for tom harris and exploratory journeys you can hear the various podcasts the most recent one

00:31:14.880 was susan crockford uh a phd yeah phd in zoology who specialized on polar bears and she points out that

00:31:22.480 the polar bear population has approximately tripled since the 1960s so they're not in danger but we have

00:31:29.840 climate scientists and all sorts of people so that's where you can find it um and our web page for learning

00:31:35.200 more about us is climate science international dot org great tom thanks so much for being so generous

00:31:42.320 with your time and generous with your hard drive space and patient with me as i'm from my car and i

00:31:48.640 hope we can have you back on the show again very soon yeah and thank you to the rebel for your work

00:31:53.280 because without you i don't think we'd have anywhere near the knowledge that we do of what's really going

00:31:58.240 on appreciate that tom thanks

00:32:11.440 i do think our american friends have no idea what's coming their way i think the biden presidency has

00:32:18.080 unleashed anti-oil anti-fossil fuel anti-human activism in a way that i think our american friends are

00:32:27.760 completely unprepared for best of luck to them we've experienced that for at least the last

00:32:35.440 five years here in canada and maybe even longer as anti-oil activists masquerading as the charitable

00:32:44.320 sector move to landlock our oil and gas sector with foreign money well everybody that's the show for

00:32:52.320 tonight thank you so much for tuning in i'll see everybody back here in the same time in the same

00:32:57.200 place next week maybe i'll be in my car on a burger steak out maybe i'll be back here in studio who

00:33:03.520 even knows any more in these unpredictable times but what i can tell you is please remember don't

00:33:10.720 let the government tell you that you've had too much to think

00:33:23.040 so

Rebel News Podcast - January 28, 2021

Cancelling Keystone XL： Biden's gift to Trudeau

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