Rebel News Podcast - Sydney Watson： If you're conservative, there isn't a place for you anymore

00:00:00.220 This week on Andrew Says, I had a chat with Sydney Watson. She's an Aussie-American YouTuber with a huge following, and she had a lot to say on issues like fat-shaming, canceled culture, discourse, and of course, hitting back at some of her haters.

00:00:14.660 You know how I like to do that stuff. We even talked about conservative e-girls, and your guy, Andrew, had a lot to say on that subject.

00:00:21.360 In a Rebel News Plus exclusive, I asked her what kind of DMs she gets. Are they weird? Are they news articles? They're likely a mix of everything.

00:00:28.560 Last but not least, though, what is Sydney's favorite hit piece written about her? That was a really fun segment.

00:00:35.240 I think you'll enjoy it. We are pretty similar, strangely enough. I know a guy and a girl, one's Australian, one's Canadian.

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00:01:10.640 Time for a serious chat, because I'm like your mum, but with less yelling.

00:01:26.740 You're thin, you have a certain privilege.

00:01:29.100 So everyday tasks that a thinner person can take for granted.

00:01:32.580 I can be a plus-sized person like myself, feel full of anxiety, burden, and upset,

00:01:37.100 and feed them so that they don't belong, and don't deserve a place in here. 0.99

00:01:39.940 So firstly, I would not describe this girl as plus-sized.

00:01:43.880 I think that that has become this term that people like to employ when it actually doesn't apply to them.

00:01:49.540 She, at least in my opinion, is overweight. 1.00

00:01:52.140 And I know that we've joked about this, but I never want to be considered like that.

00:01:56.520 And I mean, people leave comments on my videos, on my YouTube videos, and they'll say things like,

00:02:00.400 why is your toppler cut?

00:02:01.700 And I'm like, well, I mean, I don't want to be in a burka. 1.00

00:02:03.760 I mean, I could.

00:02:04.540 If you ask nicely, maybe it might happen, like a nice blue one.

00:02:07.660 Told, and she's talking about she's angrier than she maybe has been ever by the political noise.

00:02:13.980 Well, she's a conservative. 1.00

00:02:16.440 What's the political noise coming from the opposition?

00:02:19.140 Right.

00:02:19.780 Wear a mask.

00:02:20.820 Stop getting other people sick.

00:02:22.440 Stop killing other people by being so anti-science.

00:02:26.120 Also, a month ago, I mean, that's pretty much at the peak of the Black Lives Matter movement.

00:02:32.780 Oh, yeah, you're right.

00:02:34.080 All this political noise.

00:02:35.480 You should be the angriest because clearly you're the person most negatively affected by what's going on

00:02:41.340 and why those movements are even necessary.

00:02:44.020 So the question that we're asking today is if the wage gap exists.

00:02:48.100 It does not.

00:02:48.860 Sydney Watson is a writer, YouTuber, and political commentator.

00:02:58.340 You can find her on youtube.com slash sydneywatson, where she has over 500,000 subscribers,

00:03:03.580 on Twitter at sydneylwatson, and she also contributes to The First Network.

00:03:08.400 If you'd like to watch the full version of this show, please go to rebelnewsplus.com and sign up for just $8 per month.

00:03:15.000 Sydney, thank you for joining us.

00:03:16.520 How are you?

00:03:17.600 Good.

00:03:18.000 And how are you doing today?

00:03:19.100 I'm doing well.

00:03:19.980 Very good.

00:03:20.500 Thank you.

00:03:21.360 Where are you coming to us from?

00:03:23.380 Texas at the moment, thankfully. 0.55

00:03:25.380 Not like D.C., where I used to live.

00:03:28.420 So much for you.

00:03:29.060 I'm jealous.

00:03:30.380 Yeah, I know.

00:03:31.280 It's actually pretty great here.

00:03:32.680 When I first moved, I was like, I've made a grave mistake just because, you know, D.C. was pretty good for journalism and related things.

00:03:39.200 But Texas is awesome.

00:03:40.940 I can't complain.

00:03:42.300 I can complain where I am right now.

00:03:43.960 So I'm glad that you don't have the right to.

00:03:46.740 Sydney, you come up.

00:03:47.480 I'm actually coming from Canada.

00:03:49.360 Sydney, you come highly recommended by your peers.

00:03:52.660 Your YouTube channel is only about three years old, though.

00:03:55.400 And your first video was called The Me Too Movement Has Ruined Workplaces.

00:04:00.000 So tell us what led up to you making videos and what inspired you to make that video in particular.

00:04:06.780 So basically, I was actually at university at the time I was doing my Master of Journalism.

00:04:11.920 And I was disturbed a little bit by how left-wing it was.

00:04:17.400 And I'd known that, you know, obviously, most universities are fairly left-wing, having done my bachelor at the same university.

00:04:24.540 And I wanted to basically discuss and talk about right-wing values and right-wing ideas, basically to combat the left-wing-ishness that I was dealing with at school.

00:04:34.700 So the first video I made was actually about gun control.

00:04:39.480 And I chucked that on YouTube.

00:04:41.660 Sorry, not on YouTube, on Facebook.

00:04:43.120 And that did really, really, really well, which totally shocked me.

00:04:45.960 And then I decided to keep going.

00:04:47.580 I was just mad that the media was so dishonest and I didn't want to be part of it.

00:04:50.740 So I wanted to actually work towards being a proper journalist or someone at least, you know, who you could trust for unbiased.

00:04:57.180 Even though I am right-wing and I always say this is quite funny.

00:04:59.320 But I do want to be unbiased.

00:05:01.100 I want to provide both sides of the story.

00:05:03.580 So what particularly spawned the anti-MeToo video, though?

00:05:09.040 Oh, the anti-MeToo one in particular?

00:05:10.700 Well, I guess I've just always had an inclination towards criticizing feminism as a general rule.

00:05:18.560 And at that point, I'd obviously been watching the sort of narrative surrounding men.

00:05:23.220 And particularly in Australia, similar to Canada, feminism has a bit of a stranglehold. 1.00

00:05:28.040 It's a very, you know, gynocentric society. 1.00

00:05:30.360 And I was just mad about it.

00:05:31.820 And I figured that people needed to actually have an alternative viewpoint.

00:05:35.180 And that's sort of what came to fruition.

00:05:37.840 There's a video about workplaces and how uncomfortable it is to be in a workplace as, you know, men these days, I guess. 1.00

00:05:44.160 A lot of the articles I saw about you called you a men's rights activist.

00:05:48.200 Do you call yourself that?

00:05:49.580 Did that come from these videos?

00:05:51.020 How did that happen?

00:05:51.900 Is that your own doing?

00:05:53.540 No, I definitely don't call myself an MRA.

00:05:56.300 I don't really subscribe to that sort of terminology or anything like that.

00:05:59.720 I think people give me that, you know, label because I think it carries a lot of negative weight, negative connotation.

00:06:05.900 It sort of gives an indication that you're the sort of person who hates women, that you're a misogynist, that you don't care about actual genuine equality.

00:06:13.840 And, I mean, I think it's more of a derogatory thing that people on the left use to label people like me who are just critical of, you know, this sort of more radical sides of feminism.

00:06:25.500 And so, yeah, no, I definitely don't identify with that at all.

00:06:29.000 No, I agree.

00:06:30.080 Definitely in the article that I was reading, it was pretty clear that they weren't trying to compliment you by calling you that.

00:06:36.080 Now, recently, I sort of went on a spree watching your videos, and I find myself, I found myself, I really found myself, I found myself agreeing with a lot of what you were saying.

00:06:45.900 I felt like we had very similar mindsets.

00:06:48.200 I mean, we obviously look and sound a lot alike.

00:06:51.240 So, there's...

00:06:51.820 For sure.

00:06:52.220 Your hair is so long, it's so luscious.

00:06:54.840 You know, I'll sleep tonight because of that.

00:06:58.440 How would you subscribe where you fall in the political spectrum?

00:07:01.240 You said right-wing.

00:07:02.300 Was it always this way?

00:07:03.500 Did you always have these types of opinions?

00:07:06.300 I mean, I think that I come from a reasonably right-wing background and a real business background, too.

00:07:11.100 So, you know, most people in my family, my brother, my dad, my mom, everyone's had businesses.

00:07:15.480 And so, I think that that kind of lends itself to being, I think, more conservative, at least, you know, fiscally in things.

00:07:22.380 My mom, being from the United States, she came from, you know, a right-wing background. 1.00

00:07:27.300 So, I suppose that I grew up with very, very right-wing influences.

00:07:30.600 These days, I kind of oscillate between libertarian and conservative.

00:07:34.440 I don't think I fit, you know, wholly and solely into either group.

00:07:37.880 And I think that that's okay.

00:07:39.700 I don't necessarily think that the tribalism that goes along with politics these days is particularly healthy.

00:07:44.280 I think it is okay to have ideas that sit outside of those groupings.

00:07:48.620 So, yeah, you know, in essence, I have always leaned to the right.

00:07:52.740 I think I've come a lot more to the right in the last couple years.

00:07:57.620 Sometimes I look at what the left is doing and I just think, these are the people radicalizing conservatives and people on the right, not other right-wingers.

00:08:06.420 One of the videos that struck me from the get-go when I was going through your channel and one I wanted to show particularly was about thin privilege.

00:08:15.840 And, Justin, we could play a clip about that and I want to get your reaction, Sydney.

00:08:19.180 You're thin, you have a certain privilege.

00:08:23.280 So, everyday tasks that a thinner person can take for granted.

00:08:26.760 I can leave a plus-sized person like myself, feel full of anxiety, burden and upset and feelings that they don't belong and don't deserve a place in here.

00:08:34.100 So, firstly, I would not describe this girl as plus-size.

00:08:38.000 I think that that has become this term that people like to employ when it actually doesn't apply to them.

00:08:43.680 She, at least in my opinion, is overweight. 1.00

00:08:46.100 With all the pictures and the interview, do you, as the editor of Cosmo, even infer that this may not be a good weight to be?

00:08:54.680 That this actually might be morbid obesity?

00:08:58.580 In Britain right now, we have the worst incidence of obesity in Europe by miles.

00:09:03.840 We are a fat and ever-fattening country.

00:09:06.760 And here are you, as an editor of a very popular magazine, telling women it's fine to be 300 pounds. 0.89

00:09:12.640 I don't get it.

00:09:13.340 I genuinely hate how people employ the terms curvy and thick and plus-size to girls who are genuinely overweight.

00:09:21.660 So, Sydney, what caused you to make that video?

00:09:25.180 And why do you think this sort of stuff, thin privilege, fat acceptance, over-the-top body positivity, where do you think that comes from?

00:09:33.800 And what made you want to make that video?

00:09:35.520 I watched the clip in question, the one that I used in that video, and I watched it as someone who's been, thankfully, reasonably thin my whole life.

00:09:46.500 And I just was like, what planet do these people live on?

00:09:50.260 I think that there are a lot of people out there who try to excuse their own lack of, you know, personal responsibility or self-accountability and put that blame onto others, saying that, you know, they have a privilege or they have this or they have that.

00:10:07.160 When in reality, it takes some, you know, looking inward to realize it's actually your own actions that have put you where you are.

00:10:14.320 And passing the blame, passing the buck to someone else to basically say, oh, boo-hoo, woe is me.

00:10:19.460 I live in a world where skinny people get to do all these things that I don't get to do.

00:10:23.220 Honey, no one's, like, force-feeding you donuts.

00:10:25.880 You can eat healthy.

00:10:27.220 You can go to the gym.

00:10:28.080 You can lose weight.

00:10:28.800 And with the exception of people who, you know, are overweight due to health complications or, you know, medications that they're taking, I have a lot of sympathy for those people because they often get lumped in with the obesity epidemic.

00:10:41.620 But we're getting fatter.

00:10:43.180 We're getting way fat.

00:10:45.260 People are becoming lazier.

00:10:47.840 We're very, you know, we have these sedentary lifestyles.

00:10:50.500 And it just annoys me that someone would throw shade at people who, you know, basically and I think theoretically work out and take care of themselves.

00:10:58.660 That really irritated me.

00:10:59.940 And I do think that the fat acceptance movement has gotten insane over the last number of years.

00:11:05.780 I don't know if you're aware.

00:11:06.600 You probably are because you probably, like, live and breathe this sort of stuff like I do.

00:11:10.300 But it's driving me crazy these days how people are saying that diets are fat phobic because, you know, weight at any size should apply to everyone.

00:11:18.020 Well, no, I'm sorry it doesn't.

00:11:19.380 Because if you're, you know, overeating or you're not taking care of yourself and then you end up with health complications down the line, particularly in Australia and Canada, I don't want to have to pay for your decisions.

00:11:28.600 Like, no, I don't want to have to pay for you for the, you know, the heart bypass you're going to have to have in a couple of years because you couldn't control yourself.

00:11:38.480 And I know it sounds harsh.

00:11:39.500 People always get on me about it.

00:11:40.620 But, yeah, it makes me mad.

00:11:42.400 Makes me mad.

00:11:43.020 Now, along the similar lines, these are topics that I try to point out to and talk about, especially on social media a lot.

00:11:52.060 Things that people would call e-girls and the website OnlyFans, which you also did a video on, and how it sort of relates to a sort of type of political theater.

00:12:02.060 Can you kind of expand on that, what you mean about that?

00:12:04.220 I noticed you were talking about people sort of, people use the term grifting a lot in terms of, especially right-wing politics with e-girls and stuff like that.

00:12:12.680 Can you expand on that for us?

00:12:15.220 The e-girl thing is so interesting because I don't want to shame women for the actions that they take on the internet. 0.96

00:12:23.220 If you want to take a photo half naked with a Trump flag wrapped around you, that's really your prerogative.

00:12:28.220 I do. 0.56

00:12:28.660 I do, actually.

00:12:30.240 Well, that's good.

00:12:31.060 I mean, maybe you could have a really, you know, successful Instagram account.

00:12:34.220 And it's funny that I'm saying I don't want to pass judgment, even though I'm over here passing judgment on people who overeat.

00:12:39.200 You know, I'm not, you know, I'm not infallible and I'm not, you know, always ideologically consistent. 0.98

00:12:43.060 But, you know, like when it comes to these women, I don't want to be one of these people that's out here going, oh, you know, you're a slut for doing this because I don't know anything about you. 1.00

00:12:50.760 What I do find frustrating, though, is that I think it delegitimizes like the conservative movement. 0.92

00:12:55.600 And by the same token, I'm also not a conservative or, you know, conservative libertarian who says to people, oh, what are you conserving just because you take photos like this?

00:13:03.320 But the e-thought thing, I think, is really interesting because and the video that I made about it was pointing out that there is a correlation, I think, between loneliness in men and women, but predominantly men and subscribing to OnlyFans or taking part in, I guess, maybe even obsessing over these women who, again, are taking their clothes off online for money.

00:13:24.600 And particularly, particularly I was talking about the for money element.

00:13:28.120 And I think that that really just goes to show that there's a really sort of uncomfortable thing happening where we've gotten so far from each other.

00:13:35.160 And social media has played such a big role in making it difficult for people to connect and communicate effectively, which is kind of ironic when you think about it.

00:13:44.420 And it's leaving a lot of people just very unfulfilled.

00:13:46.680 So the lonelier men get, I really think it's fair to say that the more popular OnlyFans gets.

00:13:52.780 And interestingly, too, I got a lot of flack for that video about OnlyFans.

00:13:57.000 But I also got a lot of messages and comments and sort of correspondence from people who say, I'm an OnlyFans subscriber and you're nail on the head.

00:14:04.280 You've hit the nail on the head.

00:14:05.280 I am a lonely person.

00:14:06.660 And I want the human interaction because I don't feel I can get it in other places.

00:14:10.680 Now, I would say, obviously, it's not a healthy thing for young women. 0.99

00:14:16.480 I have several nieces.

00:14:18.480 I have like 13 nieces and nephews overall.

00:14:21.620 I wouldn't want them to aspire to do anything like that.

00:14:26.620 But I think that's fairly obvious.

00:14:28.320 But aside from that, when I see adult women doing this thing where they snap and their outfits change or they're doing like provocative dances and they're like in their late 30s and 40s, I don't think that's a good thing to aspire to as an adult either. 0.97

00:14:45.180 Do you think that comes from loneliness and having nothing to do also?

00:14:49.160 Or what is the goal?

00:14:51.200 Is it just to become a social media influencer?

00:14:53.220 I think it's a multi-pronged, I think there's a myriad of reasons why people do these things.

00:14:59.000 I certainly believe that, especially for young women, I think that the validation that people get from posting provocative things on the internet, whether that be pictures, videos, whatever, I think that there is an element of attention that they get, the likes and the comments, and it is addictive, that sort of pushes them forward with continuing to do those things.

00:15:20.160 And again, it's this validation that women in particular get from the opposite sex that pushes this thing down the line, which is why you have websites like OnlyFans that are so popular for lewd and nude content. 0.77

00:15:32.720 It's not just for porn stars, it's for everyday people who think, hmm, I get it's a jewel-probed thing.

00:15:37.760 I get money out of it, but I also get all these comments and people telling me how beautiful I am.

00:15:42.060 So I think that's a really huge part of it.

00:15:43.900 I mean, I can testify to this as a woman, you know, when I was in my teens.

00:15:47.760 I mean, and thankfully, I'm so glad I didn't have an iPhone or an Android or anything like that until I was, I think, about 19 was when I got my first one.

00:15:56.060 But, you know, I sort of, I can relate.

00:15:59.640 You know, I had an Instagram account and, you know, you get all these comments and likes and things and you just think, oh, this is great.

00:16:05.700 But ultimately, I think it's more damaging because the internet's forever.

00:16:09.600 You can't get rid of that.

00:16:11.280 For sure.

00:16:12.000 I'm just going to go ahead and write down start an OnlyFans account.

00:16:16.400 You make a killing.

00:16:18.260 You make lots of money.

00:16:19.880 I'll do my best.

00:16:20.740 It hasn't worked out in the past.

00:16:22.740 Speaking of things that I definitely don't want to watch, the Biden inauguration.

00:16:26.360 Did you get a chance to watch any of that?

00:16:29.340 And what were your thoughts on, what were your highlights of that?

00:16:32.840 Did you get to watch it?

00:16:34.400 Yeah, honestly, I can't watch Biden.

00:16:37.380 And it's not because I don't like him.

00:16:40.360 It's not because, you know, obviously I don't like him.

00:16:42.360 But it's not solely based on that.

00:16:45.960 It's largely due to the fact that I'm so, I get such bad secondhand embarrassment from him that when he makes a mistake or he stutters or he says something that I just go, oh, my God, this is nonsense.

00:16:58.280 I just, I cringe.

00:17:00.160 And I can't watch him because he does it so frequently that I'm just like, I don't want to be exposed to this.

00:17:05.980 I just can't do it.

00:17:07.140 So I did watch him actually being sworn in.

00:17:10.040 That was really the only part that I watched.

00:17:11.560 And I'm sitting there like tense just thinking, please just say the words correctly because I can't handle it.

00:17:16.720 I don't know.

00:17:17.420 Is that just a me thing?

00:17:18.520 Do other people feel like that?

00:17:19.760 I can't watch him.

00:17:20.560 No, most of the people I talked to tried to watch it and had to turn it off.

00:17:24.320 Personally, I was about 30 seconds into Jennifer Lopez singing God Bless America with the waving flag with the 50% opacity in front of her. 1.00

00:17:35.280 And all I could think about is after four to five years of saying America sucks, this flag is representative of colonization and white supremacy, now all of a sudden, oh, now we love each other.

00:17:46.880 And even though there's 25,000 troops out here and nobody's allowed to be here, all of a sudden, let's come together and we love America, you guys. 0.91

00:17:55.160 Bernie Sanders is falling asleep.

00:17:56.880 Bill Clinton's falling asleep.

00:17:58.380 Pretty sure Mike Pence was falling asleep as well.

00:18:00.800 And it was just a show of, it was a pretend show.

00:18:04.020 I mean, what is Tom Hanks doing there?

00:18:05.780 What is the girl from Star Wars doing there?

00:18:09.400 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:18:10.460 That was so weird, too, like how star-studded it is.

00:18:13.200 And I just think it really goes to show, though, how in cahoots all these people are.

00:18:17.860 I know that that's such a, you know, a lot of people think that sounds conspiratorial, but these politicians and these celebrities have all sort of, like, gotten in this creepy little click together.

00:18:28.020 It's just, ugh, yuck.

00:18:29.700 I don't like it.

00:18:30.240 Well, as far as I saw, everybody's touting their YouTube numbers of being horribly low, a couple hundred thousand, and even alleging that they've been removing likes from it because it was so bad, and YouTube's a pretty right-wing place.

00:18:42.840 But we'll get off of that.

00:18:44.220 I don't want to make you cringe too much.

00:18:46.640 You've joined us, thankfully, so we don't want to scare you away.

00:18:49.660 During my research, if you can call watching videos research, I came across a video from a guy named Jimmy Snow, and forget about how much of a terrible name that is.

00:19:01.460 You're probably familiar with it, and I want to play a portion of that video to you that I found particularly, I don't know if you want to call it interesting or disturbing.

00:19:09.860 You want to throw that one up, Justin?

00:19:11.240 So you figure this video is a month old, and she's talking about she's angrier than she maybe has been ever by the political noise.

00:19:20.080 Well, she's a conservative. 1.00

00:19:22.540 What's the political noise coming from the opposition?

00:19:25.280 Right.

00:19:25.920 Wear a mask.

00:19:26.960 Stop getting other people sick.

00:19:28.560 Stop killing other people by being so anti-science.

00:19:32.260 Also, a month ago, I mean, that's pretty much at the peak of the Black Lives Matter movement.

00:19:38.940 Oh, yeah, you're right.

00:19:40.200 All this political noise.

00:19:41.600 You should be the angriest, because clearly you're the person most negatively affected by what's going on and why those movements are even necessary.

00:19:50.620 Now, Sydney, I found- 1.00

00:19:51.640 I want to see when I posted that, because he's an idiot, this kid. 1.00

00:19:55.820 Sorry, continue. 1.00

00:19:56.960 I found it fascinating.

00:19:58.620 I didn't watch the whole thing, but I couldn't look away for 10 to 15 minutes.

00:20:01.540 It's a weird thing to me to make a video dedicated to one person's opinions for 30 minutes straight.

00:20:08.800 Unprovoked, I believe.

00:20:10.180 So what's your reaction when you wake up-

00:20:11.420 Totally unprovoked.

00:20:12.420 What's your reaction when you wake up and see a 30-minute diatribe about some guy that's completely about you?

00:20:20.000 It's always humorous to me when people make videos about either me as a person and just use a series of-

00:20:27.420 When they strawman my arguments, because I really pride myself on putting a lot of thought into what I create, really researching it.

00:20:34.080 And if I can't find information or there's a hole or, you know, something doesn't necessarily add up, I point it out.

00:20:39.840 Because again, you know, like I said when we first started chatting here, I mean, even though I am right-wing, I do try really hard to actually provide both sides of the coin.

00:20:47.800 I do want to be unbiased in as many cases as I can, even though I obviously have a slant.

00:20:52.140 I want to, you know, promote these things.

00:20:54.220 So it was humorous because actually the day that that video was posted, I was sitting outside with, you know, a coffee at actually Elijah's house.

00:21:03.020 You had him on recently, Elijah Schaefer.

00:21:05.360 And I'm sitting at his house having a coffee and he walks out, sits down next to me and he's scrolling through YouTube and he goes, hey, Sid, look at this and shows me.

00:21:12.020 And I was like, oh, here we go.

00:21:13.640 And what's funny is that I love how they put my name in the title because, you know, you either get people that are hate watching it because they like and support what I do and people who are, you know, hate watching it because they hate me.

00:21:25.920 So I always find it so humorous because it's not just that someone's going, okay, well, here's some arguments.

00:21:30.240 Let me like deconstruct them, but it's rather let me deconstruct this person.

00:21:34.240 So I always find it really, really, really humorous.

00:21:37.480 I don't get offended.

00:21:38.660 I don't care.

00:21:39.560 Like sometimes we'll bring good points and I'm like, yeah, fine.

00:21:42.060 Yeah, sure.

00:21:42.480 That was like a, that was a definite hole.

00:21:44.200 But for the most part, I'm just like, guy, get, get more time to you to do more better things.

00:21:51.640 That was such a bizarre sentence, but, you know, get the point.

00:21:54.740 Anyway, I actually reached out to Jimmy and I was like, man, I've watched a lot of your content.

00:21:57.680 Like this made me a bit sad, you know, hating on me for 30 minutes straight. 0.73

00:22:02.020 And he was like, well, I hate you, Sid.

00:22:03.580 And I was like, well, kind of felt that way, my guy.

00:22:05.860 And we chatted, we sort of resolved it.

00:22:07.900 He sort of apologized for strawmanning me and we moved on.

00:22:10.980 And I have no ill will towards Jimmy whatsoever.

00:22:14.180 So he's about to change.

00:22:16.200 The thing that I found, and I hate to harp on it, but he also, he, the way he talked is, is indicative of a lot of the journalists I watch, a lot of the reporters I watch, or he claims he's a former conservative and he's changed.

00:22:30.200 And he, I used to know nothing, but now he speaks as he has the deepest understanding of all these topics.

00:22:36.020 But what he says is the most shallow and lack of, lack of substance in these surface arguments.

00:22:42.120 Oh, these people are oppressed.

00:22:43.660 You don't understand their oppression. 0.79

00:22:45.200 You're killing people.

00:22:46.320 There's absolutely no nuance in anything he says.

00:22:48.880 And the statements themselves don't lack any courage or, and just require a lot of mental gymnastics, logical gymnastics to get through.

00:22:56.140 Because when you're just saying you're killing grandma or you're not oppressed, so how can you understand?

00:23:01.760 It's sort of like saying, you're watching this basketball game.

00:23:05.860 You shouldn't have an opinion unless you're an NBA player.

00:23:08.500 Now, how do you come to an agreement with a person like that?

00:23:11.500 Because, like you said, he apologized.

00:23:13.900 But how overall do people come to an agreement with somebody who isn't really willing to give their argument any veracity at all?

00:23:22.260 Well, I guess that's the thing, isn't it?

00:23:23.880 When someone is strawmanning you, and when they are trying to pick apart your opinions with no logical context, or they're not actually trying to understand where you're coming from, I think it's difficult to get mad at them.

00:23:37.440 I think if someone's actually doing, I mean, to me, that's like, you're doing something in bad faith, basically.

00:23:42.460 That's how I view it.

00:23:43.660 But I really struggle to get mad at someone like Jimmy, because I think this guy is obviously, I mean, he's an ex-Mormon.

00:23:50.720 He's very hostile towards religion.

00:23:53.880 And I think that when people are hurt, and I know this is going to sound like reasonably, you know, sort of esoteric and feely, but I think when people have been hurt by something, I think that their logical reaction is then to just want to hurt other things back to a large extent.

00:24:09.720 And I sort of just see that in these kind of videos.

00:24:13.200 But I mean, you're right.

00:24:14.140 Look, they don't have any nuance, these arguments that they make in response to people like you and me and whoever.

00:24:20.780 They don't really actually break apart what we've said and really interrogate it and question it or, you know, provide new data or provide new arguments.

00:24:28.340 They just sort of add homin in you until you until I don't even know what happens after that. 1.00

00:24:33.640 I mean, obviously, I don't care.

00:24:34.560 But it's difficult for me to say because I think at the time when I made that particular video in question, I was so angry because it feels like conservatism.

00:24:43.280 And again, like I'm not, you know, the typical conservative.

00:24:46.560 I do have values outside of that.

00:24:47.940 But I think a lot of conservatives are just feeling so downtrodden in the sense that, you know, we're deleted on social media.

00:24:53.120 We're censored all the time.

00:24:54.140 The media hates us.

00:24:55.160 Politicians hate us. 0.99

00:24:56.220 It feels like there's just no comfortable, easy place to exist as a conservative, besides maybe Florida, without getting your butt kicked, you know. 0.98

00:25:03.740 And then to have someone just completely not understand that whatsoever is kind of irritating. 0.94

00:25:08.900 So, but I don't know.

00:25:09.900 In answer to your question, I don't know.

00:25:11.200 I just don't want to get mad at random people that don't impact my life.

00:25:14.080 That's my general sort of sentiment here.

00:25:16.100 Now, the YouTube community, and by the YouTube community, I mean the people that they want to promote, which is obviously very left-leaning.

00:25:23.520 I mean, you look at other YouTubers.

00:25:25.160 Jake Paul isn't left-leaning.

00:25:26.600 The Nelk boys aren't left-leaning. 0.92

00:25:28.260 Who else can I think about?

00:25:29.880 PewDiePie is definitely not left-leaning.

00:25:33.520 So, do you come across these confrontations a lot?

00:25:36.320 I mean, is the YouTube community picking on you a lot?

00:25:39.420 Because the people who are regular YouTubers, let's call them, and not political, would probably completely disagree with you like this guy.

00:25:47.760 Does this happen to you a lot?

00:25:49.480 Look, it's funny.

00:25:51.080 I don't ever Google myself because I get really depressed.

00:25:54.080 I just don't like reading things that are just patently untrue.

00:25:56.800 So, if I haven't said something and it hasn't come from my face or on Twitter or somewhere where I have said it, it's probably not accurate.

00:26:05.160 I just want to put that out there.

00:26:06.620 So, when I watch, yeah, people actually do make hate videos.

00:26:09.620 I think they're hilarious because, again, there's no substance.

00:26:13.260 Like you said, there's no nuance.

00:26:14.860 They're just strawmanning everything I've said.

00:26:16.920 Or they're just getting really hot and bothered under the collar.

00:26:19.020 And I'm like, if you want to make out with me, you better take me on a date.

00:26:22.040 This is not the way to make it happen, fam.

00:26:24.620 So, people always get on me about the things they say about the transgender community.

00:26:28.800 And to be completely fair, I actually think I'm pretty fair and reasonable towards the transgender community.

00:26:33.680 I don't think that I say anything tremendously radical about it.

00:26:36.840 And compared to other conservatives, you know, people have said to me, I don't think you go hard enough at this.

00:26:41.680 And it still results in people making these videos where it's like, oh, Sydney Watson inadvertently supports Medicare for All.

00:26:47.440 Well, I've never spoken about Medicare for All ever in my life.

00:26:50.580 So, I'm not really sure, like, where you got that from. 0.99

00:26:53.160 People are nuts. 1.00

00:26:53.800 People are psycho. 1.00

00:26:55.140 YouTube is psycho. 1.00

00:26:56.640 Maybe that's going to be the title of this episode is people are nuts. 1.00

00:26:59.700 YouTube is psycho. 0.94

00:27:03.900 All right, Sydney, we're behind the paywall now.

00:27:06.000 And as I say to all my guests, you can say and do whatever you want now.

00:27:10.020 You can eat a meatball sub.

00:27:11.680 You can throw things at the screen.

00:27:14.020 Do whatever you want.

00:27:15.120 It's paid for now.

00:27:16.740 They have no choice but to watch.

00:27:18.280 You have a story that I heard of before I even knew who you were about getting kicked out of an apartment for being conservative.

00:27:27.360 Do you want to share that story with the audience?

00:27:29.420 Yeah, so I just moved to D.C.

00:27:33.860 And I so before I had left Australia.

00:27:37.120 Actually, a friend of mine was like, the way that people find apartments is they jump on these Facebook groups and they basically connect with people who are either subleasing, which is basically for those who've never had to go through it.

00:27:47.400 Basically, where someone goes, hey, my room's going to be available for a month if anyone just wants to stay here for a month and then leave.

00:27:52.520 It's almost like an Airbnb type scenario, except that it's a little more under the table.

00:27:57.700 It's less safe.

00:27:58.420 Yes.

00:27:59.040 Exactly.

00:28:00.880 So I joined this group to try to find an apartment or a subletter or whatever options were available to me at the time.

00:28:07.120 I actually got berated a lot in the group because one person realized who I was and was like, don't let this girl live with you. 0.98

00:28:13.780 She's a crazy Nazi. 1.00

00:28:15.220 Or I can't remember what he said, but it's something along those lines. 0.99

00:28:17.020 And I was like, this is why everyone hates you.

00:28:19.700 So I get to D.C. and I have this sublet set up.

00:28:23.560 I go, my friend and I move my things in.

00:28:26.200 I'm chatting with one of the two housemates that were there.

00:28:29.280 And my friend at the time, who actually became my housemate later down the line, she drops to one of these girls that I am conservative and that she should Google me and yada, yada, yada. 1.00

00:28:39.560 And I was like, I'll, you know, I was like, I'll kill you. 0.99

00:28:42.580 And then I'll dig you up and kill you again. 1.00

00:28:44.360 Why are you saying this? 1.00

00:28:45.100 We're going to have to, this is behind a paywall, but now we have to do a whole murder warning, I think.

00:28:50.260 Yeah, exactly.

00:28:51.160 Like trigger warning.

00:28:51.920 Sydney talks about like murdering now one of her very good friends who ruined her life for a period there.

00:28:57.880 So the next day, oh, actually, to be fair, the other housemate got home, the two of them left.

00:29:03.460 And I said to my friend, I was like, these girls are just, they're going to talk about me.

00:29:08.320 They're going to say mean things.

00:29:09.560 I know it.

00:29:10.540 I just got that vibe.

00:29:11.600 So anyway, they left.

00:29:13.300 The next day, I'm going grocery shopping.

00:29:15.660 I get a phone call.

00:29:16.440 We need to talk to you.

00:29:17.560 Long and short of it is that they sat me down and were like, you kind of have to leave.

00:29:20.420 And I was like, oh, they're like, yeah, like our landlord doesn't like want you here because of the subleasing situation, even though they'd actually sublet that same room the summer before.

00:29:30.000 So I was just like, OK, so they gave me, I think it was about a week or 10 days to find a new place, which was super stressful.

00:29:38.100 I ended up doing that, obviously, because here I am now living in Texas, having lived in the U.S. for 18 months.

00:29:43.460 And it all worked out in the end.

00:29:44.720 But it was interesting because it was there was no problem until my friend was like, Sydney's a conservative.

00:29:49.500 Google her.

00:29:50.000 And I was like, don't do that.

00:29:51.800 Don't do that.

00:29:52.640 And what I like to caveat, this was like, although no one said explicitly to me, we're kicking you out because of your views, it was fairly clear by the end of it.

00:30:01.420 And I think we see a lot of that stuff posted online.

00:30:04.680 I don't want conservatives.

00:30:06.800 I think we've even seen no white people on listings as well.

00:30:11.320 Yeah.

00:30:11.760 You mentioned that you just you've lived in the United States for 18 months.

00:30:15.160 Your accent is fleeting.

00:30:16.620 You'll be you'll be speaking halfway through a sentence.

00:30:19.420 Your accent changes and O turns into an Australian O. 0.93

00:30:24.040 You know, it's very interesting.

00:30:25.220 How long do you think you can hold on to this accent or does it come back when you go back to Australia?

00:30:30.160 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:30:30.840 Apparently, because actually, I've got a couple of Australian friends here in Texas.

00:30:34.840 Elijah Shaker, his wife, is Australian.

00:30:36.740 She and I are really, really good friends.

00:30:38.580 And so people have said to the both of us that we get together.

00:30:42.280 Obviously, then we can finally use the slang that we use, because that's obviously our natural inclination is to say things that you've grown up with.

00:30:49.460 And so, you know, we use all this slang and all this terminology between the two of us and people just sit there and go, what is happening?

00:30:55.940 So apparently it does change.

00:30:57.100 Apparently, it becomes stronger when I'm talking to other Australians, which I think is it's nice.

00:31:00.500 I don't want to lose my accent.

00:31:01.780 I am making a concerted effort now to force myself to continue using words that I would ordinarily switch out to be better understood by Americans.

00:31:10.000 So, for example, you know, I'm wearing a jumper, but to an American, I'm wearing a sweater, things like that.

00:31:14.720 I don't want to lose it.

00:31:15.660 I don't want my accent to go anywhere.

00:31:17.860 Elijah Schaefer says, I sound like I'm from Michigan or Wisconsin.

00:31:22.300 Savannah Hernandez says, I have no Canadian accent at all.

00:31:25.480 It's a very confusing time for me right now.

00:31:27.820 You do a little bit, though.

00:31:28.900 It comes out sort of when you say, like, about and things like that.

00:31:31.820 That's what everyone says.

00:31:33.240 What do I say that's about that's different?

00:31:36.080 A boot?

00:31:36.500 Should I just say a boot all the time now?

00:31:39.140 No, even the way that you just said about sounds Canadian to me.

00:31:43.080 I'm going to have to disagree.

00:31:45.760 What is your most favorite or your initial attack from the media?

00:31:49.980 Do you remember?

00:31:50.940 Forget about the Jon Snow guy, I'll call him.

00:31:54.320 But what was your initial big attack from maybe a mainstream media source that you remember?

00:31:59.720 Oh, I remember when I was probably maybe like six months into doing what I was doing.

00:32:05.760 This is back in 2018.

00:32:07.040 And I decided to have a protest or like a rally for men for just to support men, because at

00:32:13.440 the time, the narrative in Australia was very, very anti-men.

00:32:16.200 It was making me very angry.

00:32:18.140 And I knew that a lot of men felt really, really hurt and sad. 0.97

00:32:21.620 And by this old man, a rapist narrative. 0.99

00:32:23.180 So I was like, screw it. 1.00

00:32:24.020 Let's have a rally.

00:32:25.400 So the first article is so humorous.

00:32:27.340 The first article that was written was like, she's an anti, it was like, she's a pro-gun

00:32:32.960 anti-women. 0.94

00:32:33.920 It just like had this myriad, this just a list of all these things that I apparently stand

00:32:38.940 for and do.

00:32:39.820 And it was the first article that I had read about myself that no one had asked me, no

00:32:44.120 one had contacted me to speak to me.

00:32:46.340 Everything in it was definitely slanted to the left.

00:32:48.900 And it made me seem like this psycho radical.

00:32:51.260 And it was, it was honestly the first thing I, it was the first time I cried doing this.

00:32:55.920 I sat down in my parents' living room and I just bawled my eyes out because I was like,

00:32:59.920 why are people so incredibly mean? 0.99

00:33:02.000 And now I look at that stuff and I'm like, you guys, you're so silly. 0.99

00:33:07.660 You become a tough Texan now. 0.99

00:33:10.940 Hard into it.

00:33:11.840 Yeah.

00:33:12.100 The last thing I want to ask you, which is fun before I let you go is if we open Sydney

00:33:17.960 Watson's Twitter DMs or Instagram messages, what's the most likely thing we're going

00:33:23.500 to find?

00:33:25.160 My Twitter DMs.

00:33:25.800 From strangers.

00:33:27.220 Okay.

00:33:27.640 Okay.

00:33:28.760 You'll probably find a bunch of DMs that are like, I hate you. 1.00

00:33:31.760 I hope you die. 0.98

00:33:32.440 I definitely get a lot of emails like that. 0.99

00:33:34.580 They too are, some of them are disconcerting.

00:33:37.480 Definitely.

00:33:37.800 I'm like, this is a really detailed way of shooting me in the face. 0.96

00:33:41.400 Goodness. 0.80

00:33:42.200 And I think you'll find a lot of people who shitpost, excuse my language, please bleep that 0.72

00:33:47.400 out if I'm not allowed to swear. 0.82

00:33:48.600 But I think you'll find a lot of shitposting that's much better than mine. 0.52

00:33:51.080 I have the funniest community.

00:33:52.580 I'm so lucky.

00:33:53.680 People always send me memes and things.

00:33:55.040 So you find a lot of memes and then I think you'll find a lot of, Sydney, what are you

00:33:57.880 doing?

00:33:58.620 Or maybe some nice comments in there too.

00:34:00.720 I guess I got to change the way I write my emails to you.

00:34:03.880 The death threats weren't, I guess they weren't original.

00:34:06.860 Sydney Watson, you can find her on YouTube, Twitter.

00:34:10.620 She's also on other networks.

00:34:12.180 Are you on Gab and Telegram as well?

00:34:15.520 Yeah, I am on Gab.

00:34:16.540 I haven't set up a Telegram thing yet.

00:34:18.880 I'm just, you know what it is?

00:34:20.280 The older I get.

00:34:21.360 And even though I haven't entered my 30s or anything, I'm not on that wavelength.

00:34:25.160 No offense to anyone who's over the age of 30.

00:34:26.740 Sorry about that.

00:34:27.620 But I'm 19.

00:34:30.240 So it's fine. 1.00

00:34:31.380 Damn. 0.99

00:34:32.340 Yeah. 1.00

00:34:32.820 When you get older, you'll just be like, damn, Sydney, this is also grim. 0.57

00:34:36.140 But no, I feel like I'm not good at any of these platforms. 0.96

00:34:39.460 That's what's so funny.

00:34:40.320 I feel like the older I get, I'm like, what am I doing?

00:34:42.760 Like, why is, do I click this?

00:34:44.900 It's actually horrible.

00:34:47.160 I, Telegram, God.

00:34:49.320 Sydney Watson, internet novice, YouTuber extraordinaire.

00:34:53.500 Do you want to give the last words or should we just cut it off?

00:34:56.060 Cut the feed?

00:34:56.620 Um, do the right thing via my channel.

00:35:00.640 Go subscribe because, uh, people always, uh, YouTube always deletes my subs and it makes

00:35:04.940 me really sad because then you can't hear the wisdom of the most biased, unbiased, conservative,

00:35:10.880 not conservative commentator.

00:35:12.880 There you go.

00:35:13.540 I'm with you there.

00:35:14.460 I have the same uphill battle with YouTube subscribers.

00:35:17.100 Thanks a lot, Sydney.

00:35:18.060 Have a great night.

00:35:18.680 Thanks for joining me and keep your accent.

00:35:20.560 Thank you for having me and I will do my best.

00:35:50.560 Thank you.

00:35:51.560 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - January 29, 2021

Sydney Watson： If you're conservative, there isn't a place for you anymore

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